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Under Aleppo seen T-90 sample 1992 g

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Near Aleppo were seen Tanks T-90 sample of 1992, differing from T-90A in that they have cast instead of a welded tower, reports Messenger of Mordovia.


Under Aleppo seen T-90 sample 1992 g


In addition, T-90 have tracked belts other than T-90A (the same as on T-72B), and less powerful B-84MS engines in 840 hp (T-90А has B-92С2 installed in 1000 hp).

The tanks of the first series are equipped with thermal imagers and Buran PA infrared sights.

According to the newspaper, “the 90’s early-stage machine also has the Shtora-1 opto-electronic suppression system, designed to repel guided anti-tank missiles, and the Aynet equipment for remotely detonating a high-explosive fragmentation projectile.”

The author notes that "despite their age, these tanks are significantly superior to T-72B, not to mention the existing Syrians old T-72М1".
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  1. PlotnikoffDD
    PlotnikoffDD 14 December 2015 12: 34 New
    +4
    Old from the warehouses sent?
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 14 December 2015 12: 41 New
      27
      Quote: PlotnikoffDD
      Old from the warehouses sent?

      They are normal, not old. For the unseemlenization of the barmalei - that's it. Pogemorroe the more it will now use its TOU made in USA against such equipment.
      1. VOLCHOXURAL
        VOLCHOXURAL 14 December 2015 12: 52 New
        +5
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        They are normal, not old. For the unseemlenization of the barmalei - that's it. Pogemorroe the more it will now use its TOU made in USA against such equipment.

        Absolutely agree! Recycle barmaley the most that! Especially having such an impressive canopy of cumulative armor!
        1. volodimer
          volodimer 14 December 2015 19: 33 New
          +2
          So far, the principle of reasonable sufficiency has been maintained. If the armor is adequate to the possible impact of the enemy, then this model of equipment is not outdated. Something like this: If you have only a hunting rifle, then a bulldozer hung with glands and sandbags is an invincible tank.
    2. Tor5
      Tor5 14 December 2015 12: 44 New
      23
      Even if from storage - they are quite combat-ready, and that's great!
      1. cniza
        cniza 14 December 2015 12: 49 New
        +7
        Quote: Tor5
        Even if from storage - they are quite combat-ready, and that's great!



        For Assad now and his army, this is an advanced technique and will serve and work.
        1. SALLAK
          SALLAK 14 December 2015 12: 58 New
          27
          For us, this is also not yesterday, we ourselves are armed with T 72 ...
          1. shark913
            shark913 14 December 2015 15: 33 New
            +2
            they are now being modernized to t-72б3
            1. tomket
              tomket 14 December 2015 23: 19 New
              0
              Quote: shark913
              they are now being modernized to t-72б3

              Which are inferior t-90 sample 92g.
      2. dr.Bo
        dr.Bo 14 December 2015 12: 52 New
        +8
        Why are we hiding ?? Officially announced the supply of weapons and go! Particularly necessary are ATS air defense systems. P.I. endos will not, meanly, hit in the back. Under various pretexts!
        1. 341712
          341712 14 December 2015 13: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: dr.Bo
          P.I. endos will not, meanly, hit in the back. Under various pretexts!


          They will, my friend, they will .... read the order of the Jesuits, everything will fall into place ...
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    4. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 14 December 2015 12: 57 New
      +8
      Quote: PlotnikoffDD
      Old from the warehouses sent?

      Ну-с... Т-72М4СZ не намного новее... К тому же (если уж на то пошло) термин "образца 1992 года" совершенно не означает, что именно в 1992 году он и выпущен. К вашему сведению Т-90 (именно как таковой, без последующих модернизаций) производился с 1992 по 2004 гг...
      So it turns out (as I said above) that the T-72M4CZ, which are now in service with the Czech army (and are considered one of the most successful modernizations of the T-72) is not much newer. Such an epidemic, dear Dmitry ...
      1. uwzek
        uwzek 14 December 2015 17: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Chicot 1
        For your information, the T-90 (as such, without subsequent upgrades) was produced from 1992 to 2004 ...

        I wonder where it was produced at that time. Although, in 2004 somewhere there were several (three or four) cast towers and the corresponding number of commander tanks was assembled for our army (we did not have welded towers for such vehicles). Equipment and engines were already different. The T-90 tank in its original form has not been produced since the first half of the 90s.
    5. iouris
      iouris 14 December 2015 12: 57 New
      -33
      Very old, with rusty bottoms. Warehouses are also no good.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 14 December 2015 13: 12 New
        +7
        So rusty? The Vietnamese fought with the Chinese in the eighties at thirty-four, and nothing, and in the Donbass managed to restore the IS-3, and I saw the T-34. This is not Lada.
        1. iouris
          iouris 14 December 2015 13: 20 New
          -1
          Well, you give, colleagues! The province went to write ...
      2. Kolyan 2
        Kolyan 2 14 December 2015 15: 50 New
        0
        I put it - the current is due to the fact that the friends on the couch see or transmit an opinion only for more liberty or complete lack of knowledge of the topic. Yes, we do not have very many warehouses, but not all, and everything happens for storage, but also not everything sucks. And hait everything is certainly easier, there, here. and here I am on the couch and I can see everything.
        1. 1rl141
          1rl141 14 December 2015 19: 22 New
          -1
          Quote: Kolyan 2
          I put it - the current is due to the fact that the friends on the couch see or transmit an opinion only for more liberty or complete lack of knowledge of the topic. Yes, we do not have very many warehouses, but not all, and everything happens for storage, but also not everything sucks. And hait everything is certainly easier, there, here. and here I am on the couch and I can see everything.


          These are the tankers sitting and writing. No wonder.
    6. Proxima
      Proxima 14 December 2015 13: 07 New
      +5
      Интересно конечно.На этом танке установлен менее мощный двигатель, чем у Т-90А. С другой стороны,у поставляемого танка литая башня, что технологичнее и соответственно дешевле, да и маломощный двигатель, согласитесь, дороговизны танку не придаёт. Да и нужна ли такая мощность танку в такой местности, где нет раскисшего грунта? 840 лошадей по-моему достаточная мощность. В любом случае боевые действия прекрасно нам об этом "расскажут".
      1. uwzek
        uwzek 14 December 2015 17: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Proxima
        , the supplied tank has a cast turret, which is more technologically advanced and therefore cheaper,

        You shouldn’t be so. Cast tower is extremely low-tech. The cap is a piece of armor with a thickness of 500-600 mm in the area of ​​the future mask of the gun and 100 mm in the stern. This multi-ton casting is extremely capricious due to the completely understandable different cooling times of its sides. leading to a large percentage of marriage. Welded caps are much more reliable and better. In addition, it is cheaper by an order of magnitude ...
        1. Proxima
          Proxima 14 December 2015 19: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: uwzek
          Quote: Proxima
          , the supplied tank has a cast turret, which is more technologically advanced and therefore cheaper,

          You shouldn’t be so. Cast tower is extremely low-tech. The cap is a piece of armor with a thickness of 500-600 mm in the area of ​​the future mask of the gun and 100 mm in the stern. This multi-ton casting is extremely capricious due to the completely understandable different cooling times of its sides. leading to a large percentage of marriage. Welded caps are much more reliable and better. In addition, it is cheaper by an order of magnitude ...

          So the casting technology is bad in this case. Please explain to me why, during the production of the T-34, they refused to manufacture a welded tower and switched to cast? This was considered an achievement. Technologists have been awarded prizes and orders. On the quality of casting - here you can still debate, but the cost ... Your words about the welded tower, which is an order of magnitude (ten times !!!) cheaper than cast - are clearly not true.
      2. tomket
        tomket 14 December 2015 23: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Proxima
        On the other hand, the supplied tank has a cast turret, which is more technologically advanced and therefore cheaper,

        On t-90 began to put a welded tower, because the cast production was poher. So about technological considerations, it’s already superfluous.
    7. Homo
      Homo 14 December 2015 13: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: PlotnikoffDD
      Old from the warehouses sent?

      Even the T55 and T62 are not old but obsolete. And the old ones are the IS and T-34.
      1. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 14 December 2015 15: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Homo
        Quote: PlotnikoffDD
        Old from the warehouses sent?

        Even the T55 and T62 are not old but obsolete. And the old ones are the IS and T-34.


        Older, this is the FT-17. And the T-34, and especially the IS, would be very useful to the Syrians ...
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 14 December 2015 12: 35 New
    14
    Useful. Especially against the background of very rapidly decreasing armored vehicles at B. Assad.
  3. Altona
    Altona 14 December 2015 12: 35 New
    +4
    Прям захотелось словами в духе дедушки Маккейна высказаться:"Бомбить, бомбить и бомбить!" В смысле, обакатать в реальных боевых условиях весьма нелохой танк. soldier
  4. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 14 December 2015 12: 36 New
    +7
    Apparently the T-90 92g release will go into service with the Syrian army, which is also not bad!
  5. ALEXX.
    ALEXX. 14 December 2015 12: 36 New
    +9
    Here at the same time and check the equipment in real conditions
  6. sever.56
    sever.56 14 December 2015 12: 37 New
    63
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/140/wmte996.png
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 14 December 2015 12: 50 New
      +5
      Cool noticed! Witty ...
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 14 December 2015 13: 14 New
      +2
      Very good rhyme.
    3. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx 14 December 2015 21: 41 New
      0
      "Тагил" это Т-90СМ(АМ),а по отношению к Т-90 надо говорить "Владимир" против ИГИЛ(с возникающими ассоциациями)
  7. Engineer
    Engineer 14 December 2015 12: 47 New
    14
    In this war, Syria must win. This is not just a war for the preservation of the state as such, it is a confrontation of powers, where victory leads to a new alignment of forces in the world. Therefore, we need this victory as air.
    1. iouris
      iouris 14 December 2015 13: 07 New
      +1
      Syria is an idea. This, of course, is not small, but not enough. Now it all depends on the Russian Federation. Maybe from just one person.
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 14 December 2015 18: 59 New
      0
      Deep engineering. I agree 200 percent. This is a challenge to us.
  8. Wolka
    Wolka 14 December 2015 12: 50 New
    +1
    it is not otherwise the development of the already existing performance characteristics in real combat operations and the search for ways to further modernize with a view to further refinement and export delivery to third countries
  9. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 14 December 2015 13: 02 New
    0
    Хоть и старые Т-90, но на них имеется "Штора", а это уже многое.А "старички" еще покажут себя очень неплохо!!!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 December 2015 14: 43 New
      +1
      TOW is not laser-guided - the curtain will not help.
      Here against Cornet - yes.
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 14 December 2015 16: 33 New
        0
        That's what you say good.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 14 December 2015 19: 25 New
          0
          Вояка, а я думал, что принцип работы ШТОРЫ заключается в том, что прожекторы "ослепляют" оптичекие приборы путем "засветки". То есть, например у ТОУ оптика для наведения ракеты. Но этот "глазок" красным светом "светится", когда прожектор его ослепляет. В этот глазок ничего не видно, кроме красного света. Другой вопрос, как засечь выстрел ПТУРа, чтобы подсветить прожектором ПТУР. hi
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 16 December 2015 09: 02 New
            0
            So you're a marshal. Must know.
  10. Bort radist
    Bort radist 14 December 2015 13: 03 New
    +2
    In the news, the border guard patrol boat and the Black Sea Fleet missile boat forced to change course under the Turkish flag. Which prevented the towing of drilling platforms. A line is traced, not an accident.
  11. DMB3000
    DMB3000 14 December 2015 13: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: Tor5
    Even if from storage - they are quite combat-ready, and that's great!

    for such cases and stored.
  12. gg.na
    gg.na 14 December 2015 13: 05 New
    +2
    Tagil really good steers! wink
  13. VadimSt
    VadimSt 14 December 2015 13: 06 New
    +1
    I would like to receive clarification from those who are in the subject, as some comments cause misunderstanding.
    С какого такого "хранения" могут поставляться Т-90, если их и в войсках то, не тысячи? Это ведь не Т-62, тысячами стоявшие на хранении?
    1. Genry
      Genry 14 December 2015 14: 28 New
      +1
      T-90 is something that can still be sold somewhere.
      Массовый танк у России это Т-72 и ремонтная база больше ориентирована на него. Руководство видимо решило, что имеет смысл сразу перепрыгнуть на развитие базы под платформу "Армата".
      Therefore, they will get rid of the T-90 until they have bred.
      1. Darkoff
        Darkoff 14 December 2015 15: 44 New
        +1
        What should the T-72 repair base be fundamentally different from the T-90 base?
        База-то одна. А с литым колпаком, да без "оперения" - практически одно и то же.
    2. uwzek
      uwzek 14 December 2015 17: 19 New
      0
      Quote: VadimSt
      С какого такого "хранения" могут поставляться Т-90, если их и в войсках то,

      Yes, we have a T-90 on storage bases (addresses, I hope, you will not demand to name?). What is it for? The question is not for me ...
  14. WHEEL
    WHEEL 14 December 2015 13: 18 New
    0
    Quote: Alexey-74
    Хоть и старые Т-90, но на них имеется "Штора", а это уже многое.А "старички" еще покажут себя очень неплохо!!!

    Yes, it will be interesting to see how they show themselves against TOW!
    1. Genry
      Genry 14 December 2015 14: 44 New
      0
      Quote: WHEEL
      Yes, it will be interesting to see how they show themselves against TOW!

      У "Шторы" есть подавление ультрафиолетового канала приема?
      In my opinion not.
  15. Maksus
    Maksus 14 December 2015 13: 19 New
    0
    And how did you determine the type of tower and engine power from this not very clear photo? Maybe it's the usual 90?
  16. Yugra
    Yugra 14 December 2015 13: 21 New
    0
    The more we run around our weapons in combat conditions, the better we will look in future battles. And not like in Georgia ...
    1. Genry
      Genry 14 December 2015 14: 35 New
      0
      Quote: Ugra
      And not like in Georgia ...

      What was wrong with tanks in Georgia?
      Aviators yes, the brains set ...
  17. samoletil18
    samoletil18 14 December 2015 13: 23 New
    +4
    Странно немного. есть Т-72 Б3, например, на вооружении частей. А Т-90 "на хранении". неужели какая-то "хитрая" партия не вписавшаяся в структуру?
    And what will the party of the modernized T-54, 55, 62 not do? And Omsk would be loaded, and potential customers for modernization would be found. Okay, from scratch, there is already a backlog. And these old barmalei can kill a lot, 100 or 115 mm - the sheep didn’t sneeze.
    1. Forest
      Forest 14 December 2015 18: 04 New
      +1
      So T-90 of the first issues is not much in terms of the LMS from T-72 left. And in terms of mobility it loses 72Б3.
  18. chikenous59
    chikenous59 14 December 2015 14: 20 New
    0
    Took painted over the face of a Syrian black stripe, as if instead of a head ..len
    1. satelit24
      satelit24 14 December 2015 14: 48 New
      +2
      because - there is clearly not a Syrian repeat
  19. WHEEL
    WHEEL 14 December 2015 15: 42 New
    0
    Quote: Genry
    Quote: WHEEL
    Yes, it will be interesting to see how they show themselves against TOW!

    У "Шторы" есть подавление ультрафиолетового канала приема?
    In my opinion not.

    If their TOU will be distributed, then the Javelins will in general raise the tanks to the category of hearse.
  20. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 14 December 2015 16: 04 New
    0
    At least the T-34! The main thing is that they carry out their work with dignity and beat the enemies in the spray!
  21. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 14 December 2015 16: 28 New
    0
    We still have T72 in service, T90 stopped supplying troops, waiting for Armata. Apparently it was hot if they drove the t90 to Syria.
  22. Sasha75
    Sasha75 14 December 2015 17: 39 New
    0
    Most likely, they supply the T-90 for more efficient operation of the equipment, whoever says that 10 old T-55s still need to be brought and how we have small problems with the supplies, the Turks go crazy and the farther, the more it will be. We create the backbone, and then there will be deliveries of old equipment, just many people know how to fight it and it’s not burdensome for us, this is purely my opinion, but how it goes, who knows. And the T-90 is our main export tank, how not to succeed in war every success and its flare in the photo is big + in future sales Chinese equipment is cheap and is praised for many of its characteristics, but where it fought and only died out on biathlon. The only explanation why we keep the old tanks from T-55 to T-72 and su-152 is a gigantic ammunition that was made even during the Soviet Union and a very large staff of trained tankers who know how to fight them and who are not retrained with modern equipment.