Under Aleppo seen T-90 sample 1992 g

Near Aleppo were seen Tanks T-90 sample of 1992, differing from T-90A in that they have cast instead of a welded tower, reports Messenger of Mordovia.

In addition, T-90 have tracked belts other than T-90A (the same as on T-72B), and less powerful B-84MS engines in 840 hp (T-90А has B-92С2 installed in 1000 hp).

The tanks of the first series are equipped with thermal imagers and Buran PA infrared sights.

According to the newspaper, “the 90’s early-stage machine also has the Shtora-1 opto-electronic suppression system, designed to repel guided anti-tank missiles, and the Aynet equipment for remotely detonating a high-explosive fragmentation projectile.”

The author notes that "despite their age, these tanks are significantly superior to T-72B, not to mention the existing Syrians old T-72М1".

Comments

[PlotnikoffDD]

Old from the warehouses sent?

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: PlotnikoffDD

Old from the warehouses sent?

They are normal, not old. For the unseemlenization of the barmalei - that's it. Pogemorroe the more it will now use its TOU made in USA against such equipment.

[VOLCHOXURAL]

Quote: Ami du peuple

They are normal, not old. For the unseemlenization of the barmalei - that's it. Pogemorroe the more it will now use its TOU made in USA against such equipment.

Absolutely agree! Recycle barmaley the most that! Especially having such an impressive canopy of cumulative armor!

[volodimer]

So far, the principle of reasonable sufficiency has been maintained. If the armor is adequate to the possible impact of the enemy, then this model of equipment is not outdated. Something like this: If you have only a hunting rifle, then a bulldozer hung with glands and sandbags is an invincible tank.

[Tor5]

Even if from storage - they are quite combat-ready, and that's great!

[cniza]

Quote: Tor5

Even if from storage - they are quite combat-ready, and that's great!

For Assad now and his army, this is an advanced technique and will serve and work.

[SALLAK]

For us, this is also not yesterday, we ourselves are armed with T 72 ...

[shark913]

they are now being modernized to t-72б3

[tomket]

Quote: shark913

they are now being modernized to t-72б3

Which are inferior t-90 sample 92g.

[dr.Bo]

Why are we hiding ?? Officially announced the supply of weapons and go! Particularly necessary are ATS air defense systems. P.I. endos will not, meanly, hit in the back. Under various pretexts!

[341712]

Quote: dr.Bo

P.I. endos will not, meanly, hit in the back. Under various pretexts!

They will, my friend, they will .... read the order of the Jesuits, everything will fall into place ...

[Chicot 1]

Quote: PlotnikoffDD

Old from the warehouses sent?

Well, sir ... the T-72M4CZ is not much newer ... Besides (for that matter) the term "sample 1992" does not mean at all that it was in 1992 that it was released. For your information, the T-90 (just as such, without subsequent upgrades) was produced from 1992 to 2004 ...
So it turns out (as I said above) that the T-72M4CZ, which are now in service with the Czech army (and are considered one of the most successful modernizations of the T-72) is not much newer. Such an epidemic, dear Dmitry ...

[uwzek]

Quote: Chicot 1

For your information, the T-90 (as such, without subsequent upgrades) was produced from 1992 to 2004 ...

I wonder where it was produced at that time. Although, in 2004 somewhere there were several (three or four) cast towers and the corresponding number of commander tanks was assembled for our army (we did not have welded towers for such vehicles). Equipment and engines were already different. The T-90 tank in its original form has not been produced since the first half of the 90s.

[iouris]

Very old, with rusty bottoms. Warehouses are also no good.

[Ros 56]

So rusty? The Vietnamese fought with the Chinese in the eighties at thirty-four, and nothing, and in the Donbass managed to restore the IS-3, and I saw the T-34. This is not Lada.

[iouris]

Well, you give, colleagues! The province went to write ...

[Kolyan 2]

I put it - the current is due to the fact that the friends on the couch see or transmit an opinion only for more liberty or complete lack of knowledge of the topic. Yes, we do not have very many warehouses, but not all, and everything happens for storage, but also not everything sucks. And hait everything is certainly easier, there, here. and here I am on the couch and I can see everything.

[1rl141]

Quote: Kolyan 2

I put it - the current is due to the fact that the friends on the couch see or transmit an opinion only for more liberty or complete lack of knowledge of the topic. Yes, we do not have very many warehouses, but not all, and everything happens for storage, but also not everything sucks. And hait everything is certainly easier, there, here. and here I am on the couch and I can see everything.

These are the tankers sitting and writing. No wonder.

[Proxima]

Interestingly, of course, this tank has a less powerful engine than the T-90A. On the other hand, the supplied tank has a cast turret, which is more technologically advanced and, accordingly, cheaper, and, you must agree, a low-power engine does not make the tank expensive. And does a tank need such power in an area where there is no muddy soil? 840 horses is enough power in my opinion. In any case, hostilities will perfectly "tell" us about this.

[uwzek]

Quote: Proxima

, the supplied tank has a cast turret, which is more technologically advanced and therefore cheaper,

You shouldn’t be so. Cast tower is extremely low-tech. The cap is a piece of armor with a thickness of 500-600 mm in the area of ​​the future mask of the gun and 100 mm in the stern. This multi-ton casting is extremely capricious due to the completely understandable different cooling times of its sides. leading to a large percentage of marriage. Welded caps are much more reliable and better. In addition, it is cheaper by an order of magnitude ...

[Proxima]

Quote: uwzek

Quote: Proxima

, the supplied tank has a cast turret, which is more technologically advanced and therefore cheaper,

You shouldn’t be so. Cast tower is extremely low-tech. The cap is a piece of armor with a thickness of 500-600 mm in the area of ​​the future mask of the gun and 100 mm in the stern. This multi-ton casting is extremely capricious due to the completely understandable different cooling times of its sides. leading to a large percentage of marriage. Welded caps are much more reliable and better. In addition, it is cheaper by an order of magnitude ...

So the casting technology is bad in this case. Please explain to me why, during the production of the T-34, they refused to manufacture a welded tower and switched to cast? This was considered an achievement. Technologists have been awarded prizes and orders. On the quality of casting - here you can still debate, but the cost ... Your words about the welded tower, which is an order of magnitude (ten times !!!) cheaper than cast - are clearly not true.

[tomket]

Quote: Proxima

On the other hand, the supplied tank has a cast turret, which is more technologically advanced and therefore cheaper,

On t-90 began to put a welded tower, because the cast production was poher. So about technological considerations, it’s already superfluous.

[Homo]

Quote: PlotnikoffDD

Old from the warehouses sent?

Even the T55 and T62 are not old but obsolete. And the old ones are the IS and T-34.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Homo

Quote: PlotnikoffDD

Old from the warehouses sent?

Even the T55 and T62 are not old but obsolete. And the old ones are the IS and T-34.

Older, this is the FT-17. And the T-34, and especially the IS, would be very useful to the Syrians ...

[aszzz888]

Useful. Especially against the background of very rapidly decreasing armored vehicles at B. Assad.

[Altona]

I just wanted to say in the spirit of McCain's grandfather: "Bomb, bomb and bomb!" I mean, rolling around in real combat conditions is a very bad tank.

[kodxnumx]

Apparently the T-90 92g release will go into service with the Syrian army, which is also not bad!

[ALEXX.]

Here at the same time and check the equipment in real conditions

[sever.56]

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/140/wmte996.png

[moskowit]

Cool noticed! Witty ...

[Ros 56]

Very good rhyme.

[svd-xnumx]

"Tagil" is T-90SM (AM), and in relation to the T-90 one should say "Vladimir" against ISIS (with emerging associations)

[Engineer]

In this war, Syria must win. This is not just a war for the preservation of the state as such, it is a confrontation of powers, where victory leads to a new alignment of forces in the world. Therefore, we need this victory as air.

[iouris]

Syria is an idea. This, of course, is not small, but not enough. Now it all depends on the Russian Federation. Maybe from just one person.

[Ros 56]

Deep engineering. I agree 200 percent. This is a challenge to us.

[Wolka]

it is not otherwise the development of the already existing performance characteristics in real combat operations and the search for ways to further modernize with a view to further refinement and export delivery to third countries

[Alexey-74]

Although they are old T-90s, they have a "Shtora", and this is already a lot. And the "oldies" will still show themselves very well !!!

[voyaka uh]

TOW is not laser-guided - the curtain will not help.
Here against Cornet - yes.

[Mikhail Krapivin]

That's what you say good.

[Kasym]

Warrior, but I thought that the principle of operation of CURTAINS is that the searchlights "blind" optical devices by means of "illumination". That is, for example, the TOU has optics for missile guidance. But this "peephole" "glows" with a red light when the searchlight blinds it. Nothing can be seen through this peephole except red light. Another question is how to detect an ATGM shot in order to illuminate the ATGM with a searchlight.

[Ros 56]

So you're a marshal. Must know.

[Bort radist]

In the news, the border guard patrol boat and the Black Sea Fleet missile boat forced to change course under the Turkish flag. Which prevented the towing of drilling platforms. A line is traced, not an accident.

[DMB3000]

Quote: Tor5

Even if from storage - they are quite combat-ready, and that's great!

for such cases and stored.

[gg.na]

Tagil really steers!

[VadimSt]

I would like to receive clarification from those who are in the subject, as some comments cause misunderstanding.
From what kind of "storage" can the T-90 be supplied, if there are not thousands of them in the troops? This is not the T-62, which was in storage in thousands, is it?

[Genry]

T-90 is something that can still be sold somewhere.
The mass tank in Russia is the T-72 and the repair base is more focused on it. The management apparently decided that it makes sense to immediately jump over to the development of the base for the Armata platform.
Therefore, they will get rid of the T-90 until they have bred.

[Darkoff]

What should the T-72 repair base be fundamentally different from the T-90 base?
There is only one base. And with a cast cap, but without "plumage" - almost the same thing.

[uwzek]

Quote: VadimSt

From what kind of "storage" can the T-90 be delivered, if they are in the troops

Yes, we have a T-90 on storage bases (addresses, I hope, you will not demand to name?). What is it for? The question is not for me ...

[wheel]

Quote: Alexey-74

Although they are old T-90s, they have a "Shtora", and this is already a lot. And the "oldies" will still show themselves very well !!!

Yes, it will be interesting to see how they show themselves against TOW!

[Genry]

Quote: WHEEL

Yes, it will be interesting to see how they show themselves against TOW!

Does "Curtain" have UV suppression?
In my opinion not.

[Maksus]

And how did you determine the type of tower and engine power from this not very clear photo? Maybe it's the usual 90?

[Yugra]

The more we run around our weapons in combat conditions, the better we will look in future battles. And not like in Georgia ...

[Genry]

Quote: Ugra

And not like in Georgia ...

What was wrong with tanks in Georgia?
Aviators yes, the brains set ...

[samoletil18]

A bit strange. there is a T-72 B3, for example, in service with units. And the T-90 is "in storage". is it really some kind of "cunning" party that did not fit into the structure?
And what will the party of the modernized T-54, 55, 62 not do? And Omsk would be loaded, and potential customers for modernization would be found. Okay, from scratch, there is already a backlog. And these old barmalei can kill a lot, 100 or 115 mm - the sheep didn’t sneeze.

[Forest]

So T-90 of the first issues is not much in terms of the LMS from T-72 left. And in terms of mobility it loses 72Б3.

[chikenous59]

Took painted over the face of a Syrian black stripe, as if instead of a head ..len

[satellite24]

because - there is clearly not a Syrian

[wheel]

Quote: Genry

Quote: WHEEL

Yes, it will be interesting to see how they show themselves against TOW!

Does "Curtain" have UV suppression?
In my opinion not.

If their TOU will be distributed, then the Javelins will in general raise the tanks to the category of hearse.

[dchegrinec]

At least the T-34! The main thing is that they carry out their work with dignity and beat the enemies in the spray!

[Yugan Oleg]

We still have T72 in service, T90 stopped supplying troops, waiting for Armata. Apparently it was hot if they drove the t90 to Syria.

[Sasha75]

Most likely, they supply the T-90 for more efficient operation of the equipment, whoever says that 10 old T-55s still need to be brought and how we have small problems with the supplies, the Turks go crazy and the farther, the more it will be. We create the backbone, and then there will be deliveries of old equipment, just many people know how to fight it and it’s not burdensome for us, this is purely my opinion, but how it goes, who knows. And the T-90 is our main export tank, how not to succeed in war every success and its flare in the photo is big + in future sales Chinese equipment is cheap and is praised for many of its characteristics, but where it fought and only died out on biathlon. The only explanation why we keep the old tanks from T-55 to T-72 and su-152 is a gigantic ammunition that was made even during the Soviet Union and a very large staff of trained tankers who know how to fight them and who are not retrained with modern equipment.