Employees of the Kerch plant "Albatross" wrote an open letter to Vladimir Putin

The work team of OJSC “Albatross Plant” prepared a text of the appeal to the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin. It states:

"Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich!

The staff of OJSC Albatross Plant appeals to you with an open letter asking you to take measures to prevent further, final destruction of the buildings of the Plant Albatross OA plant and to understand the continued non-payment of wages dismissed to employees of the enterprise in violation of the Law with 2000 year to the present.

While in the state of Ukraine, the plant was plundered, but not completely destroyed.

The list of enterprises of the military-industrial complex formed by the Russian military department that may be involved in the implementation of the state defense order of the Russian Defense Ministry includes the Albatros Plant OJSC, the city of Kerch. But despite this, the bankruptcy procedure continues and the tendency to the destruction of the enterprise continues.

Appeals to all instances of the Republic of Crimea and measures taken by the workforce to preserve the plant and the possible resumption of production are simply ignored.

We, as a labor collective, addressed 6 November 2015 of the year to the Anti-Corruption Bureau of the Republic of Crimea. According to information from this organization, in 2014, funds were allocated for the reorganization of OJSC Albatross Plant. I would like to receive more detailed information and an explanation: why in this case the arrears of wages to the labor collective are not closed? And what does the reorganization (restructuring) program envisage if ongoing destruction takes place - just a demolition of buildings?

On behalf of the staff of OAO Albatross Plant, Kerch, we ask to intervene in this situation and take action.

We ask to ensure an objective investigation by law enforcement agencies; clarify the intended actions for the preservation of the plant, determining its legal form of ownership; affiliation to the military-industrial complex or conversion to produce products necessary for the Crimea.

We hope that with this appeal we will be heard.

On behalf of the workforce of Albatross Plant OJSC - Vladimir Volchensky, Chairman of the Industry Committee of the Department for Public Assistance to the Development of the City of Kerch Russian Community "

Help site KerchINFO: Instrument-making plant "Albatros" was one of the most successful high-tech and innovative enterprises in Crimea. Its production activities began in 1985. It was intended to work in the interests of the Navy fleet USSR and was subordinate to the Ministry of shipbuilding industry of the USSR. The main nomenclature is the radar stations of the near boundary of the protection of surface ships from air targets. The volume of defense production was planned at 95%. Consumer goods were produced, in particular, televisions, processor telephones, electric mixers, electronic electricity meters, etc. The plant became a city-forming enterprise during the construction of new Kerch microdistricts.

While in the state of Ukraine, the plant was plundered and destroyed, but not completely destroyed. The decisions of the Presidium of the State Council of Crimea on the suspension of the bankruptcy of industrial enterprises, including the Albatros plant, a moratorium on the sale of its property, saved the company from final destruction.

But further events and the progress of the bankruptcy procedure and the actions taken by law enforcement agencies and the arbitration manager are alarming and give the right to question the general desire to comply with the Resolution of the State Council and subsequent decisions of the Council of Ministers. Appeals of the labor collective's initiative group to the Economic Court, the Ministry of Property and Land Relations, the Ministry of Industrial Policy, the Arbitration Manager, the Chairman of the State Council of the Republic of Kazakhstan, the Head of the Republic of Kazakhstan, the Prosecutor of the Republic of Kazakhstan do not arouse interest and participation in reviewing and deciding on the safety of the plant and possible decision on resumption of its activities. Hiding data on the form of ownership of the enterprise. The dismantling of the building continues, the tendency of its closure and destruction continues.

In December, the 2015 of the year ends with the bankruptcy proceeding management, and the liquidation procedure begins!

An immediate review and decision is required. The actions of the initiative group, the appeal of the labor collective, the decision of the general meeting of the labor collective, proposals for the safety of the plant are not taken into account. After contacting the Prosecutor of the Republic of Crimea, as of November 15, 2015, no response was received.

The situation with the plant "Albatross" today is paradoxical. While the President of the Russian Federation announces the modernization of the economy, the government reviews and approves programs, there are changes in civil society and public relations, the growing importance of democracy, the plant is destroyed during formal review and formal replies, under the guise of references to laws and incompetent management of local authorities .

Comments

[AdekvatNICK]

Yes, here the floor of the country should write on non-payments VV

[queen]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

gender of country

99%

[GRAY]

Quote: regin

99%

_____one hundred% :-)

[queen]

Quote: GRAY

Quote: regin

99%

_____one hundred% :-)

This is about how they wrapped with the dollar, and 1% is basking on this.

[Grbear]

Quote: regin

Quote: GRAY

Quote: regin

99%

_____one hundred% :-)

This is about how they wrapped with the dollar, and 1% is basking on this.

"Sad" you people ... To see everything in black light is the way to the psychiatric hospital. But I'm not talking about that.

This letter is an obvious confirmation of the contradiction between the social state and the interests of the private trader. The interests of the state, under the existing constitution, which declared private property inviolable, cannot be protected. The plant included in the structure of the military-industrial complex cannot be controlled solely by private owners. The state should have the right and the opportunity to change the owner, right up to an explicit order. But the plant has healthy forces, and they can stretch production. Need help from the state. And there will be precedents, the matter will shift in the legislation. IMHO.

[starshina78]

"You are sad people ...", in your words to GrBear, these are those who write the truth? If you receive your salary on time, this does not mean that everyone else receives it on time. Just all the rest, albeit not 99%, but 75 percent, do not receive it on time, and moreover, in order to reduce the salary, the directors of enterprises found a way out in a shortened working week. Officially, they cannot lower it - it is fraught, and so the mosquito of the nose will not undermine.

[GRAY]

Quote: starshina78

"You are sad people ...", in your words to GrBear, these are those who write the truth? If you receive your salary on time, this does not mean that everyone else receives it on time.

If to be honest, then the last time I came across a delay zp in 1997.
I read about a shortened week only on the Internet, maybe there is such garbage, but not at the vast majority of enterprises - that's for sure.
A normal specialist will not work in such conditions.
Just open any job search portal and see what is offered to those behind the machine. The operator of the CNC machine will never receive less than fifty dollars.
If necessary, and housing will give medical care.
With engineers, etc., the exact same picture.
I worked several years ago in the same company with English roots, so there I cut the salary for specialists in order to maintain the level of profit, as a result of which all smart specialists briskly rushed to competitors.
Because of this, this company was in a concrete _ope, and is there to this day.

Officially can not lower it

Really can. Transfer to another position with a new salary.

[dauria]

. The operator of the CNC machine will never receive less than fifty dollars.

What country are you writing about? About Moscow? We have more than 35 thousand - this is a shift with departure, as well as 20- 35 and a mustache (N. Novgorod). And recently, the chances of sucking a paw have increased, and people are afraid to utter a word.

[ALS]

At the turner in the Tupolev Design Bureau, the salary reaches the steward.

[Proud.]

Quote: dauria

What country are you writing about? About Moscow? We have more than 35 thousand - this is a shift with departure, as well as 20- 35 and a mustache (N. Novgorod). And recently, the chances of sucking a paw have increased, and people are afraid to utter a word.

Why Moscow? We have. Let not 50, but 40 thousand, there is for sure. Without shift and departure (Rostov on Don).

[Starina_hank]

Not everywhere is such a rosy picture, a country is big!

[Starina_hank]

Not everywhere is such a rosy picture, a country is big!

[Soviet Union]

Quote: GRAY

If necessary, and housing will give medical care.
With engineers, etc., the exact same picture.

[Reklastik]

Well, I don’t know, Nizhny Novgorod region, Pervomaisk ... Almost since the beginning of this year, workers are on forced leave ... when they do not work on four-day days ... Transnevmatika OJSC)))

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: starshina78

even if not 99%, but 75% do not receive it during the time, and not only that, to reduce the salary, the directors of enterprises found a way out in a shorter working week

Where does this figure come from? From the moon?

[Stanislas]

Quote: starshina78

percent 75 don't get it during

Where are the numbers from? "Sad" is a euphemism (softening) of the word "sad", ie, those who compose or retell such "figures and facts" composed by other "sad" ones that inspire despondency and pessimism in people.

[REVOCOM]

In Kerch, in addition to Albatross, there is another very large enterprise "Zaliv".
The company can produce both corvettes and frigates.
I wonder how things are going with zp
But in general, why should the situation in Crimea be better than in the whole country?

[3axap82]

Dear, you will not say why you and many others refer to an imperfect Constitution? Where are the gaps, failures, congestion? WELL THAN ONE EXAMPLE ???

[Flexsus]

here's an example: the priority of international law over domestic law and the Constitution ...

[3axap82]

How do you understand the priority of international LAW over the Constitution?
x.NUMX
p4. The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If an international treaty of the Russian Federation rules other than those provided by law are established, the rules of the international treaty apply.

Do you understand !? Not any whims of any USA or Zimbabwe are binding, but only those treaties and obligations that Russia itself has undertaken. If the UK and France agreed on something without Russia, this does not have any legal force in Russia.
ELEMENTARY! No need to take on enslaving obligations and do not have to fulfill them.
In addition, you can violate an international agreement that we have signed, if so necessary. As is the case with the Crimea. You can get out of the international treaty. The main thing is that there would be political will and no accounts in foreign banks.

[3axap82]

By the way, your Fedorov voted for joining the WTO. WTO MEMBERSHIP IS A PRIORITY OF INTERNATIONAL FINANCIAL LAW OVER INNER-RUSSIAN. Transfer of sovereignty in the economy in exchange for access to the world market on favorable terms.
Sorry if you ranked him unfairly. But only the supporters of Fedorov speak of a bad Constitution of the Russian Federation.

[passenger]

There is no longer a priority of international law. The COP decided on the priority of national law over the decisions of the ECHR.

[Ares]

In America, defense industry enterprises are private traders. And nothing, they produce wonderful products.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Ares

In America, defense industry enterprises are private traders. And nothing, they produce wonderful products.

In America, they also issue dollars - private traders. And nothing, they diverge beautifully all over the world despite the external debt of $ 18 billion ...

[Reklastik]

You can be a private trader, with guaranteed state order))) Well, not something)))

[Starina_hank]

Factory workers !! ??

[Starina_hank]

Factory workers !! ??

[midivan]

Quote: GrBear

The plant included in the structure of the military-industrial complex cannot be controlled solely by private owners. The state should have the right and the opportunity to change the owner, right up to an explicit order.

Yes, it’s time for them to give these private traders backside and transfer all the military-industrial complex to full state control, and not only the military-industrial complex, but all factories, were seized in the 90s and now the army should buy weapons from the private trader, and in general any private business should have a state alternative for competitive pricing

[puffnutiy]

Full control seems to me not needed. Full control is needed where the private trader fails or where technologies are very important for the state. And offices like Lobaev’s enterprise can be private. They just have to report to the state according to a special scheme and that’s all.

[puffnutiy]

Full control seems to me not needed. Full control is needed where the private trader fails or where technologies are very important for the state. And offices like Lobaev’s enterprise can be private. They just have to report to the state according to a special scheme and that’s all.

[iouris]

This one percent does not live here.

[Konstantin Yu]

..Don't blablablazdet. What country are you broadcasting about? about the one you want to see? Mr. .. we don’t need to water 100% -This is a LODGE, if anything specifically, write, read

[queen]

Quote: Konstantin Yu.

This is a lie

You yourself answered your question. Or you are the keeper of the dollar.

[Mahmut]

This is a LODGE, if anything specifically, write, read.

In contrast to the word LOCH, the word FALSE is written with a soft sign.
And as for the destruction of production capacities, this is the process throughout the country, with the exception of some lucky ones from the military-industrial complex and the military district.

[asiat_61]

At the expense of the military-industrial complex, the Kurgan Wheel Tractor Plant, half were sold under a trade complex, the second half is for sale. There is still a Kurganpribor plant, electronics, buildings, but no plant. And so everywhere.

[pilot8878]

The GatchinSelMash plant remained only in memory. There is no equipment, no half of the buildings, and the territory was taken over by shopping malls. At the remaining (so far) capacities, a seed treater is produced. All.

[Bayonet]

Quote: GRAY

_____one hundred% :-)

We don’t just have to sculpt everyone for this, we have no problems with this! You still write about the starving.

[queen]

Quote: Bayonet

You write about the starving

It will not come to this, but the ability to buy will decrease significantly.

[Bayonet]

Quote: regin

It will not come to this, but the ability to buy will decrease significantly.

You wrote there above that 99% of working salaries do not get paid on time - where does it come from ??? Why give out their fantasies as truth?

[queen]

it’s not about salaries, but about 1% seeing the profits in the rest, and how Sberbank overstates the exchange rate. Salaries do not grow, and price tags creep up, they don’t want to notice this at the top.

[GRAY]

Quote: Bayonet

You still write about the starving.

I am writing from the queue for coupons for coupons, I have been standing for the second week ...

[I am human]

You, brother, troll and provocateur ...

[3axap82]

75-85% minus the oil industry, gas, commercial space and defense EXPORT.

[S-kerrigan]

Another IT sector is living well. We are writing serious software - money is always on time.

[Vend]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

Yes, here the floor of the country should write on non-payments VV

That's right.

non-payment of wages to employees of the enterprise dismissed in violation of the Law during the period from 2000 of the year

The "writers" should be reminded that they were then living in another country. Are there salary arrears now? It looks like an attempt to probe Russia, and whether it will repay Ukraine's debts. I would say these are unfounded claims. Go to court and demand debt repayment from the Ukrainian authorities.

[bocsman]

Quote: Wend

The "writers" should be reminded that they were then living in another country. Are there salary arrears now? It looks like an attempt to probe Russia, and whether it will repay Ukraine's debts. I would say these are unfounded claims. Go to court and demand debt repayment from the Ukrainian authorities.

You can look at this situation from the other side. Surely the enterprise has an owner who has real estate in Crimea and the prosecutor's office could investigate the activities of this character. And completely at the expense of the confiscation of property to compensate the victims of his "activities". So there is logic in their statement.

[Baron Wrangell]

Quote: bocsman

Surely the enterprise has an owner who has real estate in Crimea and the prosecutor's office could investigate the activities of this character. And completely at the expense of the confiscation of property to compensate the victims of his "activities". So there is logic in their statement.

I specifically looked at the enterprise, there is no private owner, everything belongs to the Crimean Minimus of 93% of the shares. Here most likely is the so-called artificial bankruptcy. I think that the plant has a lot of debts to the Ukrainian oligarchs, so you don’t have to go bankrupt, they’ve gone out of business and have no debts. Or the second option is worse, to get the plant on account of debts, I don’t know who will receive it. Raider seizure. But there is very little information about Crimean enterprises

[guzik007]

I think that the plant has a lot of debts to Ukrainian oligarchs, so that they don’t pay bankrupt
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Why did the guests come in large numbers? All property of the oligarchs was nationalized forever.

[KVIRTU]

There will be no bankruptcy.
"The Presidium of the State Council of the Republic of Crimea in the new conditions has imposed a ban on bankruptcy procedures for enterprises. The list of such enterprises hanging in the air includes the Kerch" Albatross "."
Rather, funds began to flow into the accounts of the enterprise, people found out, they decided to try their luck.

[aleks 62 next]

..... Surely the company has a landlord who has real estate in the Crimea and the prosecutor’s office could investigate the activities of this character ...


.... The prosecutor's office is now intensely "busy" with showdowns with the Crimean zoos (the Taigan lions park, the Yalta "Fairy Tale") .... She has no time for that ...

... And completely at the expense of the seizure of property to compensate the victims of his "activities" ....


..... So far, only Kolomoisky was seized from one .... Why don't you know ???? ... The rest (Kiev, Donetsk, Dnipropetrovsk, etc.) feel quite comfortable in the vastness of the South Coast and other territories of Crimea .. ..As far as I know, even Rabbit's property in Yalta was not "squeezed out" (in the center is a piece of square and a rebuilt building for a shopping center) .... Which causes quite healthy interest and questions from part of the Crimean society ....

[passenger]

Believe me, in the prosecutor's office and other services, not eight-armed multi-headed people are sitting. In Crimea, there is now material for the operational implementation of ten years for sure.

[kotvov]

Go to court and demand repayment of debt from the Ukrainian authorities. ,,
in fact, they are under the jurisdiction of Russia. that means they have the right to apply to the guarantor. otherwise it turns out they are in Russia, but sued according to the laws of the former nenko. I think that you are wrong.

[KVIRTU]

Kerch.FM, 2013: "... a former engineer of this enterprise, told the editorial office of Kerch.FM that since 2002 they owe her a salary for several months, this is an amount of about 3 thousand hryvnias. The Kerch woman has a court decision on to whom she, as well as other former employees of the plant, must pay off the debts, but all these years the decision was not carried out.
... wage arrears to former employees of Albatros OJSC - 982,4 thousand hryvnias.
... The State Executive Service of Ukraine sent a letter to Kerchanka stating that the court's decision cannot be fulfilled, since the plant already has nothing, the company's bank accounts are frozen. "
Everything has already been said. They wave their fists after the fight.

[Aleksander]

Quote: Wend

non-payment of wages to employees of the enterprise dismissed in violation of the Law during the period from 2000 of the year
It should be reminded to the "writers" that they were then living in another country

Likewise, critics of "writers" can be reminded that "writers" are now citizens other Russian countries and their new problems fellow citizens today is the problems of Russia and this responsibility she automatically took along with Crimea. Otherwise, we can say that the Crimean pensioners did not earn their pension in Russia, let them turn to Kiev, etc. in that spirit.
People want the money they have already earned and clarity in their fate. Their appeal to the authorities is absolutely logical and logical, especially since there is no clarity with the owner factory, and to whom do they turn?
The question of ownership in the Crimea is generally the most difficult legally - then the will and decision of the Russian leadership are needed

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Wend

they then resided in another country.

I fully support! The photo shows empty eye sockets of windows. So no equipment has been there for a long time. What kind of radio engineering enterprise is it? And what kind of workers who, fifteen years later, are demanding wages? There are no such rare specialties with which even a janitor will not be hired to work anywhere. Russia will need it, "Albatross" will be rebuilt! And these buildings, one way or another, will be demolished in order to free up space.

[vovanpain]

While the President of the Russian Federation announces the modernization of the economy, the government is considering and approving programs, changes are taking place in civil society and public relations, the importance of democracy is growing, the plant is being destroyed under formal review and formal replies, under the guise of links to laws, incompetent management of local authorities .

The government, except for a few ministers, seems to be with Alpha Centauri.

continuing non-payment of wages to employees of the enterprise dismissed in violation of the Law in the period from 2000 to the present.

Crimea returned home in March 2014, and until that time it was somehow incorrect to ask for a salary from us. But it seems that the local oligarchy wants to put his dirty hand on the plant. His business mother is nothing personal.

[captain]

I will express my opinion, the opinion of a simple citizen. During the annexation of Crimea, a number of major mistakes were made. The main thing was that they did not change the protégés of Kiev in the administrative apparatus, especially the people who opposed the reunification of Crimea with Russia; measures were not taken in a timely manner to provide Crimea with electricity, they did not solve communication problems, and the banking sector was missed. So far we have not been able to resolve issues with the owners of the production facilities. Now we are reaping the fruits of our gouging.

[corrado]

Let me remind you how we had to quickly annex Crimea and that with such a rush (and we remember all those days when events were counted for seconds), many mistakes can be made. "The main thing is that the peninsula has become Russian, and we will cope with the rest of the problems," almost everyone thought in March 2014, and if today there is a similar situation, when our "partners" were about to dream of making Crimea a NATO military base, we would have done the same ... There will be many more problems in the future, somewhere real, but somewhere provocative, and I think our leadership knew about this in advance. Yes, there was a mess with the energy supply, but for some reason the peninsula will soon be independent from the supply of energy from 404, and this is already forever. And so, step by step, you will have to renew everything that has been destroyed over 23 years, i.e. almost a quarter of a century. We are used to being served everything at once, but unfortunately here it was impossible.

[Svetlana]

Quote: captain

Now we are reaping the fruits of our gouging.

In Russia, which has never been Ukraine, even in the closest suburbs, the same processes also exist in former industrial enterprises. They are owned by foreign citizens and companies. And until this circumstance is eliminated throughout Russia, while we calmly look at how the bourgeois plunder our Motherland, nothing will change for the better. This is not gouging, this is the management of oligarchic capital that does not want our country to prosper. It is very good that the Crimea is again Russian, Tauris was the land of the Rus from ancient times, to the Greeks and Romans. But do Russia itself belong to us now? That is the main question.

[revnagan]

Actually, you think correctly, but this moment:

Quote: Svetlana

Tauris was the land of the Rus from ancient times, to the Greeks and Romans.

I was embarrassed. Even before the Romans? That way you will "surpass" the autochronicity of "ancient ukrov". But on the whole, I repeat, you are absolutely right. The worst and most dangerous enemy lives among us. These are oligarchs. That in Russia, that in Ukraine they are the same. It's just that the Ukrainians caved in to the West, having received from it "guarantees" on the inviolability of their capital (what is the price of these guarantees was shown by the events in Cyprus). The Russian oligarchs decided to provide guarantees for themselves, with the help of the military-industrial complex of Russia. Well, they need the people to defend their interests with his hands. Therefore, the people were left with a little historical memory and Soviet paraphernalia. But remember, as soon as the oligarchs will feel the power behind them, in the same way they will demolish the monuments to Lenin and plant them for the red flag. The essence of the oligarch is the same everywhere.

[Svetlana]

Quote: revnagan

But remember, as soon as the oligarchs feel the power behind them, they will demolish the monuments to Lenin in the same way and plant them behind the red flag. The essence of the oligarch is the same everywhere.

Well, I’ll take it into account. But the demolition of monuments to Lenin is not the worst thing that happens in Ukraine, and can happen in Russia. The worst thing is the demolition of industrial enterprises and the transformation of research institutes into car dealerships. And they felt their strength back in the 90's, ruining the USSR. This people is still weak and fragmented. It is conducted on any nationalistic wiring and kills each other.

[Stanislas]

Quote: revnagan

That way you will "surpass" the autochronicity of "ancient ukrov"

"In autohTony", probably. "Ancient Ukrainians" are pathetic plagiarists. In 1986, Yemelyanov's self-published book Desionization appeared, in which all the same (and, I suppose, with the same purpose) was written about the Russians. It seems that all sorts of neo-pagans, proto-ukry, etc., climbed out of her, like worms from eggs.

[I am human]

No one will give us deliverance: Neither god, nor king, nor hero. We will achieve liberation. With your own hand.

[perm23]

This is so of course. But just our businessmen and Ukrainians are well tied to each other. And so it goes. For the same electricity and everything. The raven will not peck out the crow. The authorities are afraid to touch the owners, everything is going in some complicated way, we all want to show the West how good we are. Just do not select. The same Dzhemaliev’s business remained, and so far they have just shut down. And of course the people in the field. We do everything somehow wrong - step forward, then back. then to the side. In Crimea, it really was not clear that there was a land connection. It was necessary to go a little more. Have stopped. And so it is everywhere.

[34 region]

There, besides non-payments, there is still a looting point for the enterprise. And the question is raised about the need for this enterprise in Russia. Although we have such enterprises in any city. And even cities and villages rush. I don’t know what they will achieve. Judging by Medvedev’s call to increase the mobility of the population (to become homeless), nothing shines on them. As he says: We must not wait for work at home, but go where work is.

[Black Colonel]

Judging by Medvedev’s call to increase the mobility of the population (to become homeless), nothing shines on them. As he says: We must not wait for work at home, but go where work is.
He just said so? Well then ...! Can I have a reference? Not out of harm.

[34 region]

I'm not saying that he voiced it today. But there was a deal. I think pearl collectors will throw off this statement.

[Svetlana]

Quote: Black Colonel

He just said so? Well then ...! Can I have a reference? Not out of harm.

Of course not "just said so", but said, I also heard it. The meaning, if you think about it, is exactly what it will be. Who will provide you (your children, parents of the elderly) with housing and infrastructure to create for you to work for the good of the Motherland? Are there normal hospitals, clinics, schools, kindergartens there? Why on earth should people get out of their homes? To do this, you must first create the conditions, and then agitate the people. Or at least, as in the USSR, enterprises should be given the opportunity to build housing and infrastructure for their employees.

[Sweles]

everywhere the same factories do not work, people don’t get paid, banks don’t invest, maybe it’s time to change the government?

[34 region]

In Ukraine, the government has already changed. Everyone was for a shift. The question is, what will we have on the exhaust?

[perm23]

Damn, why is it like this with us, local authorities and private traders until they are ordered to do everything in their own way. Direct manual control of the country is needed. Nonsense.
And again, Putin will be to blame for everything. And how to deal with all this bastard.

[Thompson]

Of course, I understand everything, but demanding repayment of a debt since 2000 ... is somehow indecent, and ???
Where have you been for 15 years?

[queen]

Quote: Thompson

Where have you been for 15 years?

They do not return from there, but they returned.

[KVIRTU]

People have court decisions in their hands, but the executive service of Ukraine was never able to implement them. The question is different: until 2014, Albatros - OJSC, commercial structure. Is Albatross obliged, successor, nationalized, state. enterprise, pay the debts of predecessors, commerce? Were there any precedents?

[Vadim237]

Most likely, our state will pay salary arrears to employees for 15 years, but that’s all, and the rest of the plant will be demolished as unsuitable for production.

[Maksus]

in the continuing non-payment of wages to employees of the enterprise dismissed in violation of the Law during the period from 2000 of the year to the present.

But this is strong, really strong. Maybe it is necessary from Yatsenyuk and Co. to demand all the same? Russia in the person of Putin has nothing to do with it.

[chikenous59]

You can’t keep track of everything, the country is huge, it is harder to control it than Liechtenstein or Germany.
The work is endless.

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: chikenous59

You can’t follow everything, the country is huge-

Or maybe JV Stalin take an example? the country was much larger, but even the flies were not flown around did not fly ... maybe there is simply no order and maybe the desire to bring it ??

[jjj]

Something is failing: do they want Russia to pay them salary debts that arose during the time of Ukraine?

[GRAY]

The main nomenclature is the radar stations of the near boundary of the protection of surface ships from air targets. The volume of defense production was planned at 95%. Consumer goods were produced, in particular, televisions, processor telephones, electric mixers, electronic electricity meters, etc.

The entire chronicle of degradation of production in three lines.
And will they now be able to use "near-line defense radars," and if they can, at what level?

[Vadim237]

This plant could enter KRET, but in view of its state, it is easier to demolish than to invest something and build a new plant.

[aszzz888]

They do not want to resolve issues locally. That's why they write to the President.

[kotvov]

They do not want to resolve issues locally. ,,
do not want or can not? these are two different things.

[cerbuk6155]

And what if no one takes any measures, it remains only to write to Putin.

[Coronel76]

We Russians continue to believe in the "Good Tsar" although he never existed, but this belief helps us not to give up.
P.S. I believe it myself!

[Kuzyakin15]

Quote: Coronel76

We Russians continue to believe in the "Good Tsar" although he never existed, but this belief helps us not to give up.
P.S. I believe it myself!

But I’m no longer ...


I stopped believing. They stop believing in the "genius" of the tsar-father

[Stanislas]

Quote: Kuzyakin15

They stop believing in the "genius" of the tsar-father

Who is stopping, and who is just starting.

[Svetlana]

Quote: Coronel76

We Russians continue to believe in the "Good Tsar"

Yes, this faith is with us at the genetic level. And for good reason. Always any state at a critical moment was rescued by a strong and intelligent leader. And in our state, he also made a powerful empire from the country. Now we are waiting for his appearance. The one that we know, or the other, but again the critical moment has come when it should manifest itself.

[mpzss]

about the 2000 of the year I agree-bust! But about the plant ... specialists should look here, maybe everything is so bad there, that it’s easier to build a new plant ... But this is not for me to judge, I was not there.

[kartalovkolya]

The question is certainly interesting ... It looks like the ears of our not really "partners" are sticking out, but who else benefits from the destruction of a defense enterprise that should work to strengthen the Russian Navy! That again "... business and nothing personal ...", competition "understand"! The enemy is not asleep, do not wash like that, the main thing is to harm Russia!

[fraer]

While the President of the Russian Federation announces the modernization of the economy, the government is considering and approving programs, there are changes in civil society and public relations, the growing importance of democracy,
Did I miss something? Overslept? Special growing importance of democracy

[Wolverine]

Well, how do you see a gopher in a joke? No, but he is ...

[fraer]

Quote: Wolverine

Well, how do you see a gopher in a joke? No, but he is ...

Well, something very far away he hid. It was not otherwise in the KGB that he had an internship.
But if so, do not see us the growing importance of democracy.

[GRIG]

Quote: fraer

not to see us the growing importance of democracy.

What does it mean not to see?
Look in a neighboring country, at least look, and "growth" and "significance" and "democracy". For decades, they and their camp still have to disentangle "the growing importance of democracy."

[Svetlana]

Quote: fraer

Did I miss something? Overslept? Especially the growing importance of democracy

Well, perhaps this was a certain deflection. In the meantime, only in our minds does the importance of democracy rise.

[fraer]

Quote: Svetlana

Well, perhaps this was a certain deflection.

And then virtual.

Quote: Svetlana

In the meantime, only in our minds does the importance of democracy rise.

Slowly. What else needs to be done with the people so that they can see clearly? Everything seems to have been done, conceivable and not conceivable. And things are still there.

[Sivan]

Quote: fraer

Did I miss something? Overslept? Especially the growing importance of democracy

You missed the referendum on the status of Crimea
After all, the plant is located in the Crimea!

[Shadowcat]

Well, first of all, it’s not necessary to write to all instances, but to the prosecutor’s office of the corresponding republic, in particular, N.V. Poklonskaya, with instructions that there are such offenses, please understand.
And if it’s so open, then it’s possible to have receipts from the post office that the letter was, and if they are silent then attach copies to statements to other authorities and collect other receipts. And only then, after attaching receipts, write to the king the priest.
But as one friend told me, they like to write with the president first.

[Sivan]

Appeals of the initiative group of the labor collective to the Economic Court, the Ministry of Property and Land Relations, the Ministry of Industrial Policy, to the Arbitration Manager, Chairman of the State Council of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Head of the Republic of Kazakhstan, To the prosecutor of the Republic of Kazakhstan they do not cause interest and participation in the consideration and decision on the safety of the plant and the possible adoption of a decision to resume its activities.

[Shadowcat]

If there is no answer within the time period established by law, then they already apply to other instances., In order to verify not only the request, but also to verify how the controlling authorities are already fulfilling their options.

Unfortunately, in the article, in addition to pictures of Crimea (is it?), I do not see scans of calls to anyone, so I see about orphans and the wretched and ever-hurt, but who do not want to do anything, I do not see.
And I’ll note it right away. There is a blogger, Denis Mokrushin by name and surname, and periodically writes to the prosecutor's office and receives answers, and somehow you should not be ashamed to publish them.

[Horn]

Sadly, uncompetitive industries must close. Another thing is that the state can and should, IF there is a NECESSITY IN PRODUCTION OF THE ENTERPRISE, invest in modernization.
Well, and debt repayment since 2000 ... And what not since 1991?

[zekaze1980]

So what's with us. Ahh, mg., Nada to chip in, what's the question, please. What is left with me ... Cowards, cowards left.

[mag nit]

You throw these Ukrainian habits - to beg. Who have you been working for since 2000? Yanukovych? Write all letters to him.

[chunga-changa]

Pretty naive. But there is an excuse, people only recently crossed the arm of the "Russian tsar" and they still have the illusion that now they are "their own" and "the good tsar, these are evil boyars." All this is not for long.

[press officer]

no, well, everything is clear, it used to be written to all the structures of the Outskirts, but clear plans there no one planned. Therefore, it seems that the workers immediately decided to write GDP. In theory, first, of course, Poklonskaya should be, and then the president should follow ... well, they wrote ... now again the GDP will have to be solved manually in a way ... But on payments since 2000, of course, they have bent .. this is not for us .. but since 2014, perhaps we should take a look, if we didn’t pay it, when Crimea was already back, then we must tear our heads off those who had federal money out of their habit of dill!

[Starina_hank]

I will tell you in secret that the registered workers of the Ural factories wrote letters of complaint to Tsarina Catherine. Moreover, letters arrived, and officials came to deal with these complaints! And this is when the dispatch from the Urals was 2-3 months! And now, how long does it take for at least someone to tear their own ass out for the sake of state affairs ??

[Starina_hank]

I will tell you in secret that the registered workers of the Ural factories wrote letters of complaint to Tsarina Catherine. Moreover, letters arrived, and officials came to deal with these complaints! And this is when the dispatch from the Urals was 2-3 months! And now, how long does it take for at least someone to tear their own ass out for the sake of state affairs ??

[bydanoff.val]

Naive. In Russia, thousands of plants are looted and silence!?. They do not want to hear about nationalization.

[Vadim237]

Thousands have been plundered and thousands have been built recently.

[Mercenary]

It is not Putin who needs to write, but Medvedev who doesn’t do anything with his liberal government.

[WInovikov]

Of course, you need to write to Medvedev. He is already doing well, the peak of the crisis is over and the economic growth is about to begin. For him, the main thing is to fart loudly, and what stank is not for him.

[Taygerus]

why do we owe them something, they are independent, well, and harm yourself, solve your problems yourself, so to speak at your state level

[Sivan]

why are we them something must they after all independent, well and harm solve your problems yourself, so to speak at your state level

"They are independent," are Ukrainians, apparently? Those. Is Crimea still in Ukraine in your picture of the world?

[dosyl]

Russia and its people. Nothing changes. The last hope for the "tsar".

[nemec55]

On behalf of the labor collective of OJSC “Plant Albatros”, the city of Kerch, we ask you to intervene in this situation and take measures.

On behalf of the labor collective of villages in Russia, I ask you to intervene in the fact that we have been living in shit since the 90s and we LIVE an ep like that. And you lads a year in Russia dough is pulled into you and not enough for you ??? Drop the plant, go to Siberia for a construction site or else where Russia is big if in the Crimea it’s shitty so great a pancake to us.

[Alex_59]

Judging by the photos from Google, there is nothing to restore there. The territory is overgrown with bushes (right on the roads), destruction is clearly visible. I don't even know ... she died, she died. Shipyard "Zaliv", according to the same satellite images, looks much more cheerful and, apparently, it is so.

[Anchonsha]

And yet you have to figure it out, you can’t get anywhere. Having accepted Crimea as part of Russia, we thereby took upon ourselves all of Bendra’s debts to the population. The injured citizens, both unwittingly dismissed and not receiving a salary while in Ukraine, are not deprived of the opportunity to apply to the courts of the Russian Federation, but they can no longer turn to Ukraine, since they are not citizens of Ukraine itself. It's a shame that we must pay from our treasury all these violations of labor law. if they are installed, but nothing can be done. The Crimean authorities, of course, are now at a loss and cannot, due to lack of funds, satisfy the demands of their citizens for all 15 years

[Ros 56]

Well, nothing new, everything is as always. The guys, of course, turned down about 2000, but we need to understand it. The first thing, of course, is to turn to Poklonskaya and Aksyonov to create an interdepartmental commission of representatives of interested departments - the Moscow Region, the Prosecutor's Office, the local and republican administrations, federal representatives including the president’s representative, to invite the media, the more openness and publicity around this matter, the less chance quietly grab the production, because judging by the letter to this business is moving.

[Yak-3P]

there are a lot of radio-electro factories in Russia - 90% outdated equipment and technologies - 1-2 of the 20 demanded workshops are made - there’s space there or avionics .. I don’t understand kerch, it’s not the Urals - there should be a lot of port city - create a union of loaders ..

[Ros 56]

I do not have information about radio factories in Russia, but if there are a lot of them, then why is rare China, Malaysia, Korea and Japan in consumer electronics stores, but is there? It is impossible to carry out modernization, because these are jobs, taxes, etc.

[An64]

Quote: Ros 56

Why is solid China, Malaysia, Korea and Japan rare in consumer electronics stores, but is there?

And we cannot make "Mercedes".
Unfortunately, but in radio electronics we are not just in @ @ e, but in deep, deep!

[Ros 56]

Somewhat disagree with you. We all can, if there is a normal economic block in the government and will work as it should, the judicial-legal block. Who can compare with our planes, rockets, tanks, in the end on what fly into space? And then they sit with smart faces, carry nonsense and think all such fools, they are only smart. I can’t continue on this subject, already everything is boiling inside.

PS I forgot, at the international exhibitions at one time they received the Grand Prix Moskvich, ZiM and, oddly enough, Victory. Our people are golden, and we have hands and brains, we must use them correctly.

[An64]

I have no doubt that we have gold people, hands and brains!
But our industry is so technologically behind that in a year, two or five it’s impossible to catch up. Ask how many elements the leading electronics manufacturers can place on one quartz crystal, and how many of our most advanced plants ...
After all, even GLONASS receivers we are not able to do at our plants.
It seems to me that catching up is useless, you need to "jump" this lag - buy or steal technologies, and move on on their basis.

[sledge]

How many of these plants in the country have collapsed, squandered .... Eeeh .....

[gg.na]

Many enterprises of factories and factories (damn it, dashing 90s) collapsed. And also many collective farms with their farms and other households collapsed! You must either build something new or restore the former! Money, as I understand it, was allocated to them

According to information from this organization, in 2014 funds were allocated for the reorganization of OJSC Albatros Plant.

And now they want to know where these allotted funds have gone! Ask to help Vladimir Vladimirovich figure out where this money goes! In my opinion something like this! Maybe I'm wrong. Figs knows him!

[individual]

Putin is simply not enough for everyone.
Local authorities should be held accountable for the territory entrusted, and if not, then get rid of such elections. (Ordinary or extraordinary)
Everything is in your hands.
There is nothing else.

[3axap82]

If you did not know the task of the leader to set the tasks directly to subordinates, this may be a closure. ministers, department heads and so on. They must fulfill the general instruction of the leader.
The head of the country selects senior managers, they find deputies able to cope with the tasks, etc. to the worker.
The president to whom there is no command can safely leave his post otherwise he will be "taken away". And if he has been in power for 15 years, then everything is working as it should. As he needs.

[lecturer]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

Yes, here the floor of the country should write on non-payments VV

- So I read these "PISSSSSSAK" and begin to be disappointed in our-LEE (!) "Military Review"?
He finds such an idea that all the SCRUB (!) From the Pentagon, the crawl-obserushka, the Zapadentia ... and the rest of the Euro-rot fell ...
AND NOW CAME ON ME - RUSSIAN SEAFARER! husky-likes, put your "minuses", and I will calculate - how many of you sucked!

[cap]

Do not tear the vest. It will come in handy. The appeal was written. So within a month they will receive an answer.
We have Medvedev D.A.-Lawyer.
The state is legal. Zhdems.
+ I will put for a patriotic impulse.

[avia1991]

Quote: morpod

in our-LEE (!) "Military Review"?
He finds such an idea that all the SCRUB (!) From the Pentagon, the crawl-obserushka, the Zapadentia ... and the rest of the Euro-rot fell ...

So maybe it makes sense to change the "social circle"? Why worry so much?
Although it is strange, for the RUSSIAN SEAFAR, so diligently hide behind the SCURES from reality ..

[3axap82]

"Do not tear your panties not in a tavern." Such screamers and poseurs are "spit out" by any team.

[lecturer]

Well, WHERE, WHERE, where the cons, small spank, swamp cormorants !!!

[3axap82]

You are drunk, comrade the officer?

[Starina_hank]

For hysterics minus!

[Starina_hank]

For hysterics minus!

[smith7]

The question is not very simple ... Targeted money for the wrong purposes? Or are they stuffed into the wrong pockets? Is the Crimean prosecutor's office already powerless or hasn’t it been addressed there? Prosecutor Poklonskaya in the know? This case is still the Prosecutor's Office of the Republic of Crimea, or we have not been told everything here. There are procedures in the legislation of the Russian Federation that must be followed. Otherwise, there is no law and order. This is an open letter, probably a "cry from the heart", but the smell is somewhat unpleasant. It looks like a "throw-in" ... Of course, in Crimea (as well as in Russia) not everything is in order yet, but Moscow was not built right away ...

[avia1991]

Quote: smith7

This is an open letter, probably a "cry from the heart", but the smell is somewhat unpleasant. It looks like a throw-in.

It is very convenient to attribute all such cases to "stuffing with a stench". are not afraid that the majority of Crimeans will have to be recorded in the 5th column?
But this is just a normal reaction of normal people who fled from the aggression of "pravosekov", from the Ukrop corruption - and here, being in euphoria from returning to the Russian Federation, they SUDDENLY faced our "native" corruption, and gangster privatization schemes - the very ones through which the more and less valuable in the territory of the former RSFSR were seized.
Of course they are outraged! Of course, they didn’t expect that! And remembering the role of Putin in their return "home", of course, they turn to HIM for help!
But I’m afraid that the head of state isn’t up to them now - he’s busy very much, he is adjusting his foreign policy .. entrusting internal affairs to the very "5th column".

[kuz363]

Putin will not see this letter. Maximum Sands or 2-3 assistant. Filtering is very tough

[Yuyuka]

The peak of the crisis has passed and began to descend ... Only in this way can one formulate actions in the economy. Golden time to raise your production! for a year now we have been living in this gold, but no boom except verbal spells. Can Medvedev read Lenin or Stalin? About the NEP there, or the GOELRO plan ... Damned Bolsheviks! For some 10-20 years they created such an industry, then Hitler into the trash, then they flew into space! And here the poor liberals are pushing, pushing, read the third decade already, and the result is somehow not impressive ... we can say a nano-result. Although no, we are ahead of the rest in the growth of the number of billionaires in crisis years!

[Ros 56]

Hmm, the last sentence is an excuse for analysts from the Prosecutor General’s Office, UK. Financial Intelligence, Accounts Chamber, etc.

Quote: Yuyuka

Although no, we are ahead of the rest in the growth of the number of billionaires in crisis years!

[avia1991]

After contacting the prosecutor of the Republic of Crimea as of November 15, 2015, no response was received.

And it will not be. She had already been told what to do, and the "uncompromising and honest" prosecutor Poklonskaya famously saluted!

And what does the reorganization (restructuring) program provide if there is ongoing destruction - just demolition of buildings?

It seems to me that everything is trite and simple: someone liked the little factory in our "top". And since it has not yet been "privatized" in the Russian Federation, they decided to urgently correct the situation. BUT!.. Well then, we, enemies of our own selves — to redeem it at full cost ?! You need to bankrupt, and arrange for a penny. And then - O-O-O! Then - cut coupons! The state order from the Ministry of Defense is secured, loans for re-equipment, as a defense enterprise, will be allocated - live, new "owner", and rejoice!
It is sad to see all this, and understand that you can’t do anything - just shoot the bastards!

[twviewer]

Quote: avia1991

It’s sad to see all this and understand

[ibragim]

Quote: regin

it’s not about salaries, but about 1% seeing the profits in the rest, and how Sberbank overstates the exchange rate. Salaries do not grow, and price tags creep up, they don’t want to notice this at the top.

regin Dear, it’s just that these people don’t want to see the real one, probably they don’t go to gas stations, they don’t go to the shops, or maybe they just mow down a fool.

[wheel]

but we spend another billions on Syria ...

[Vadim237]

This man didn’t have to take a loan - we have a lot of those who take it and cannot give it in full and will not give it back, now the debt, namely overdue loans, to banks is 16 trillion rubles.

[Stanislas]

Quote: Vadim237

we are full of those who take and cannot give completely and never give

But the man’s logic is absolutely correct: if you forgive bankers who stole billions of national money, then why not forgive the hard workers owed to banks, those who could not pay back on time, together with their families, because of a debt of 100-200 thousand rubles but confidently sink to the social bottom with fines, confiscations, etc.

[Sivan]

Quote: WHEEL

we spend billions on Syria

Who is spending? Ruin (judging by your flag) ?.
Or did you just study poorly at school and confuse the first person with a second or third?

[Dimitrakis]

And what is special about Crimea? Let them write letters to those who plundered and plundered the plant; there are enough of their factories in Russia. Crimeans are impudent, I thought they would be more modest. And then they have electricity, a bridge, VPK, restore, and so on,

[Ros 56]

Of course special. Do not think, I myself am from the southern Urals.
But even the French said about the peculiarity of Crimea, especially for growing grapes for making wine.
Second, what is Yalta alone, and rest, and you can hold another conference in the future. Apparently everything goes to that, of course, after the victory.
Well and most importantly, remember Sevastopol, the Black Sea Fleet and how many Russian bloodbeds have been spilled for all this, I mean of course the whole Crimea.

[Stanislas]

Quote: Dimitrakis

enough factories in Russia

A Crimea like a stranger?

[t118an]

And as they wanted, and we also have their salaries cut, they do not pay on time ... Get used to Friends .. You are not the only ones .. Hold on, Fasten yourself .... well, MINUSUIT wait .... or what's wrong ...

[waitknait]

It is necessary not to let bankruptcy defense enterprises, it is imperative to preserve valuable personnel. And about salaries, they pay us not badly, and if it weren’t for the fucking rate, then one could generally say well ... not like in Gazprom, of course, but people bought new cars (B and C class) regularly.

[Radical]

Quote: GrBear

Quote: regin

Quote: GRAY

Quote: regin

99%

_____one hundred% :-)

This is about how they wrapped with the dollar, and 1% is basking on this.

"Sad" you people ... To see everything in black light is the way to the psychiatric hospital. But I'm not talking about that.

This letter is an obvious confirmation of the contradiction between the social state and the interests of the private trader. The interests of the state, under the existing constitution, which declared private property inviolable, cannot be protected. The plant included in the structure of the military-industrial complex cannot be controlled solely by private owners. The state should have the right and the opportunity to change the owner, right up to an explicit order. But the plant has healthy forces, and they can stretch production. Need help from the state. And there will be precedents, the matter will shift in the legislation. IMHO.

What a fresh thought !!!

[Serovoleg2013]

Unfortunately, many enterprises in Crimea still belong to hohloaligarchs! We still play the rule of law, play out ......

[Lily]

How long will the country be operated manually ?! And no one will be fired!

[kuz363]

Or they won't put me in prison. Or they won't shoot ...

[Zomanus]

Interesting article.
It is especially interesting, due to which they demand to pay off the debt before the 2014 year?
Due to the Russian budget?
Or is it just an excuse for counting all debts and
in one fell swoop to overcome the property of Ukrainian oligarchs and rulers in the Crimea.
And what about dismantling the plant, you still have to look,
what is that plant now?
Maybe there were only boxes of workshops left.

[Svetlana]

Quote: Zomanus

Or is it just an excuse for counting all debts and
in one fell swoop to overcome the property of Ukrainian oligarchs and rulers in the Crimea.

This should have been done yesterday. That is, 1,5 years ago.

[zvo]

it is: only the box of the main building, and it collapses. The rest was stolen a long time ago

[Born in USSR]

What is it about, if it’s unprofitable for Gazprom to sell gas inside the country to the public domain, comrades from the public domain suffer losses. While liberals vshivtsy rule they will not be anything worthwhile. They do not care about the country they have passports of Western powers in their pockets as well as the money they have, the children are all there. The country is ruled by natural REAL RUSSIANS TYPE ROTENBERG AND COMPANY. Why do they need a strong Russia. I was stunned by the speech of the director of the Lenin state farm. He specifically said you can’t want to go away, right now they can’t suck them off from there on pneumatics. It seems that 90 is coming back. What are they pushing us to the barricades? However, they carry out the task of the Washington regional committee. So here everything has been clear for a long time. A little like a suitcase airplane Washington or Europa.

[colonel manuch]

Correctly, that they turned to the prosecutor's office, you first need to figure it out: whose plant? Who coughs up debts during twenty years of being under the jurisdiction of the Outskirts? And let the Strasbourg Court of Human Rights, with an "indelible" favor and demand

[Belousov]

It is somewhat strange to demand from Russia to pay salary debts that have accumulated in Ukraine. And to say the least.
And as for the paradoxes about the goals of the state and the destruction of the plant - what is so surprising? This is happening all over the country, the destruction of enterprises in order to free land for commercial and elite residential development. Examples we have in Samara: 4 gas processing plants (almost in the center of the city and I don’t care for everyone that there are architectural monuments of the mid-19th century), Plant them. Maslenikova (a very large area on the banks of the Volga), Plant them. Tarasova (a large area between the 2 main streets of the city 5 minutes from the Volga), etc. And the fact that we have allegedly import substitution and so on - so who cares about the war and who is the mother. We all hope to buy everything from China, but at the same time to cut it on state deliveries. The main thing is that Putin is pleased with the work of the government ...

[deadj]

as if he didn’t know that the plant was being destroyed.

[Old warrior]

I wouldn’t exaggerate so, it’s not so bad everywhere and Putin should not be responsible for this, but the leadership on the ground and more strictly. In our subway, in principle, so far, everything is fine, if it were not for the mess that the new administration is imposing, but I think there will be a right for them, we won’t let them break everything.

[Homo erectus]

And, then, to shout to the Khabarovsk Territory, Pennant, Voskhod, Gagarina, what to write to these factories and to whom.

[kojemyakin]

Patriotism in foreign policy, liberalism in domestic policy. This is the reality.

[VB]

Unfortunately, the guarantor does not have a team. Everyone whom he somehow raised to the very top of power or business is only engaged in lining their pockets or preserving, including abroad, what was stolen from the people.

[Pomeranian]

Medvedev's liberal-monetarist government is absolutely incompetent, and in some ways anti-Russian, frankly sabotage. Putin alone will not be enough to resolve everything in the country.

[boris117]

Quote: GrBear

The state must have the right and opportunity to change the owner, even without a personal appearance.

If this happens, then we will already live in another country. In a country where schools will not be reformed, but will be taught to children and educated not as consumers, but as creators. There will be state ownership of everything that nature provides. There will be private owners, but under the strict supervision of the state and with state guarantees for the worker and specialists. There will be a state bank issuing treasury notes, and not candy wrappers called Bank of Russia notes. And no IMF will give him a decree. And the relationship between the ruble and other currencies will be established objectively based on the ratio of what is produced per person. There will be a planned economy that will ensure minimal production costs in the regions. The cost of producing energy, raw materials, and products will be optimized. All this can be easily controlled with modern technology. Strict logistics in organizing production in all regions, ensuring a minimum cost for organizational issues. And the salary earned is the highest for the president and no one can earn higher than that in the civil service. 10 cleaning lady salaries and that’s it. All others are located in this interval. Well, the head of some housing office or the director of a small enterprise cannot earn three times more than the president. Fairness in the distribution of created benefits will ensure peace and order in the country. Yes...the utopia is complete at the moment. Although there is hope that the president will deal with this thoroughly next year. He is a decisive person and is able to act proactively. He just needs confidence that he is right. But for now the pseudo-liberal economic curtains in front of our eyes are in the way. I should see the light within a year. An objective economy must operate within the country, not a speculative one. They must be held accountable for theft and professional incompetence. And production, both technical and scientific, should be managed by specialists, not efficient speculators. Otherwise, it’s a complete “Gaddafi” for both us and him.

[Ros 56]

You know, it all already happened, and for some reason it collapsed. I agree that a small boss cannot receive big money while his employees are paid 6-10 thousand rubles. But even under the planned economy, not everything was good, there was a lot of chaos, inconsistencies, there were “pushers” who traveled around the country, knocking out from allied suppliers the products that they should have received according to the plan. That is, there was a strict link between enterprises. And this is not good, there is no competition and this means a loss of quality. Although I would not say that everything is good now, probably half of everything on the market is fake and goods of dubious origin and quality. I think the blame for everything is irresponsibility and impunity, starting from the janitor to... I think so.

[Dimon-chik-79]

It would be nice for VO to monitor the development of the situation with the Kerch Albatross plant and this appeal
in particular. I wonder what the government's reaction will be

[derik1970]

There is no democracy in the country; the oligarchs have power, so everything is done to please them.

[tracer]

For the existing system in Russia, the existing constitution is not optimal, but it is close to it. Since it was written specifically for him and to support him. That's it... A change in the constitution will entail a change in the social system or way of life... But this may not happen. It is a change in the social system that changes the constitution. But not the other way around. Another question is how this social system is changing. Therefore, a complete replacement of the constitution is not yet expected. Changes are sure to be made from time to time. There is no point in thinking about more for now. I liked the way the Albatross workers thought. Like, “Give us our money back” in the spirit of Panikovsky, who is crying out to Bender, and has been since 2000! This begs the question - why not since 1991? Well, what is there.. Faith in the almighty freebie has not let go of the fraternal people.. “Alpine begging is a holy cause.” (O. Bender)..

[gascon]

Quote: Bayonet

Quote: GRAY

_____one hundred% :-)

We don’t just have to sculpt everyone for this, we have no problems with this! You still write about the starving.

And you think that we don’t have hungry people, open your eyes and look at how pensioners live!!!

[kuz363]

The plant was destroyed, and the staff apparently also fled by half. What a recovery! It's the same as building a new factory, it will cost less

[kazachyok69]

Circus! I wonder why hundreds of enterprises have been put on hold since 2000 and no one has written any letters? It feels like the workers have confused their country of residence - Russia is not the USSR, however...

[Vlad5307]

Quote: 3axap82

p4. The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system.

These “generally recognized” “partners” can be used to describe practically anything and say that the Russian Federation does not comply with its own Constitution. We need specific terms, not who knows what!

[Vlad5307]

Quote: dEADj

as if he didn’t know that the plant was being destroyed.

He might and not in the know, but the government should be in the know, and not just “bury” budget money in ineffective banks of friends! The government’s work is not visible, except for the constant deterioration of the country’s economy, starting at least from 2012!

[Wajra-3]

There is such a strange story here with non-payment of wages since 2000, illegal dismissal, etc. and so on.
Probably the employees of this enterprise have the right, within the framework of the Russian structure of defense enterprises, to some preferences and subsidies.
But the presence of an enterprise under the “yoke” of Nazi Ukraine, which dreams of eliminating the connection between our countries, is very alarming. Maybe there is nothing to know or accept? Let's calmly take a look and evaluate. There are probably specialists there too. But this will no longer work. That's for sure! We have to do everything again!

[mpzss]

You know, we are discussing what and how here, but I have not seen ANY photographs of this plant, and on the Internet I only came across these http://urban3p.ru/object1412/
And what is there to restore!? Yes, the plant WAS good, but now...