A fire in a psychoneurological boarding school in the Voronezh Region claimed the lives of 23 patients.

On the night of Sunday (around 0: 00 MSK) a large fire occurred in the village of Alferovka, Novokhopyorsky District, Voronezh Region. The fire engulfed one of the buildings of the psycho-neurological boarding school. With the flame managed to cope only three hours after the fire. According to the regional emergency department, 23 people died.

The building of the psycho-neurological boarding school burned down completely. According to the emergency service, by morning the bodies of all those killed in the fire were discovered.
At the time of the fire, there were 74 people in the building, including four medical staff. According to regional law enforcement officers, no one was injured from among the medical workers of the psycho-neurological boarding school. All patients who died in the fire were located in those sectors of the medical institution where they were treated with potent sedative drugs. Employees of the boarding school from among the doctors report that for several dozen patients of the boarding school before bedtime measures were taken to introduce potent drugs. Representatives of the regional department of the Ministry of Emergency Situations say that it is this factor that influenced the entire rescue operation, and the fact that a large number of people died. Patients under the influence of drugs were in a state of deep sleep, moreover, most of them were bed-ridden disease.
From the message of the emergency services officer:

Evacuation of patients was difficult. These are bed patients and those for whom treatment with potent drugs is provided.

The surviving patients of the psycho-neurological dispensary are transferred to the city of Borisoglebsk (60 km from the place of the tragedy), where they are placed in one of the medical-type boarding schools. An investigation check into the causes of fire in a psycho-neurological boarding school in Alfiurovka has begun

Comments

[Gandelman]

Putin is to blame

[Riv]

Yeah. And Obama in addition
The dispensary burned down, news just right for topvar.

[Penetrator]

Quote: Riv

Burned out dispensary, the news is just right for topvar.

So the dispensary is neuropsychiatric! So the news is in color, for paranoid and schizophrenic

[Volodin]

Quote: Penetrator

So dispensary is neuropsychiatric! So the news is in color

People died in the fire. This tragedy, in your opinion, is a reason for violent irony and gagging emoticons?

For those who are in doubt about the appropriateness of the appearance of such news on HE, it seems necessary to prepare a selection of news solely about how the Ukrainian prime minister was dragged by the balls or how something again somewhere, sorry, farted Poroshenko.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Volodin

who is in doubt about the appropriateness of the appearance of such news on VO

Well, let's add here a chronicle of traffic accidents and social gossip. The site is military. Recently there was a noisy debate, after which the economy was singled out in a separate site. And the economy is inextricably linked with the country's defense capabilities.

[Riv]

Why what? Let's start telling jokes. About Hitler, to be in the subject.

[Volodin]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Well, let's add here the chronicle of accidents and gossip.

No need to juggle. "Voennoye Obozreniye" came out with materials, for example, on flooding in the Far East. Then, too, I remember, there were those who said, "and what has the military theme to do with it," as if the "Military Review" circle was purely war and its review, as if the "Komsomolskaya Pravda" circle would be exclusively "the truth about Komsomol members."
"VO" is a free resource: no one forces anyone to read news that is not suitable for someone on the subject. People have every right to simply ignore this or that news and read the most significant for them. This has already been written a thousand times. And, as they say, "healthy again."

[Baloo]

People have every right to simply ignore and read the most significant news for them.

This news item is missing key information. whether it was recently renovated as part of the "modernization" and what time it got up, who is the beneficiary. Although the TV does not show that there was a renovation.
If my assumption is wrong, then this tragedy is certainly the result of someone’s negligence.
Condolences to the relatives of the deceased medical attendant on duty and patients.

[semirek]

This tragedy is a direct consequence of the policy of "optimization", the regional authorities of the Novokhopyorsk region, following the directives from Voronezh, reduced everything and everyone in the region, starting from fire stations, fire reservoirs, hydrants, ending with the medical staff of the mental dispensary. They even moved the village council to the regional center (I live in a neighboring village, everything happens before my eyes)

[alone]

The VO site first turned into the mouthpiece of gorlopans and layoffers, and now the site is being turned into the official site of the fire department.
P.S.Zhalko people. Moreover, they were mentally ill. I can assume that the hospital building was built in the 20s and 30s, of course, the structures bearing wooden structures. It was difficult to build a normal building in 24 years and move the hospital to a new building .

[dark_65]

and compare the cost of the members of the regional administration ... and the cost of reconstructing the boarding school before the fire.
it’s only two three sophisticated cars.

[atalef]

Quote: Volodin

For those who are in doubt about the appropriateness of the appearance of such news on HE, it seems necessary to prepare a selection of news solely about how the Ukrainian prime minister was dragged by the balls or how something again somewhere, sorry, farted Poroshenko.

Hi Aleksey .
I hope your comment is not about me.
Agree, the article should have at least some sort of basis for analytics, well, at least elementary.
That there would be at least an elementary opportunity to blame Putin, Medvedev, the 5th column. Poroshenko, Igil, Turkey, the watchman. firefighter or Napoleon from the 3rd chamber.
And so. Once again I express my opinion.
The level of VO (in my understanding) and you personally (nothing that we are on you?) Put a lot of effort into this, not worthy
just empty, unsubstantiated news. With this article, you could wait until the publication of the minimum conclusions of the UK.
Best regards

[Volodin]

Hello Alexander! In order not to type the same thing twice, I have already (above) expressed a position on this issue.

[Penetrator]

Quote: Volodin

People died in the fire. This tragedy, in your opinion, is a reason for violent irony and gagging emoticons?

Damn, how serious! I did not make fun of the tragedy of the dead people and their loved ones. Irony, speak? And not the irony that such news is posted on a specialized site? What’s the crime tape here? The fact that moderators consider visitors as patients of a psychiatric clinic is obvious. And demonstrate an appropriate attitude.

[Volodin]

Quote: Penetrator

And the fact that the moderators consider visitors as potential patients of the mental hospital is obviously

Who is obvious? Are you obvious? Do not say nonsense. The news is of interest - read, do not cause - do not read. Offended by moderators - write a complaint to administrators. Nothing complicated.

[Penetrator]

Quote: Volodin

Moderators insult - write a complaint to administrators. Nothing complicated.

The site administration is happy with everything, because the moderation policy does not change. And please do not indicate what to read to me and what not.
You can write to administrators yourself and get a bun for loyalty, like a true patriot of VO.

[Volodin]

Quote: Penetrator

And please do not indicate what I read and what not.

Oh-pa! I wrote: if you want - read, if you do not want - do not read, and I also found myself "indicating what to read and what not ..." This is logic! If this distortion is the style of your communication, then I begin to understand why you have problems with moderators. Site rules to help.

[Penetrator]

Quote: Volodin

I wrote: if you want - read, if you do not want - do not read, and I also found myself "indicating what to read and what not ..."

OK, you indicated what I want, what not to want. That's better?
You have a speaking surname. The citizen who said: "There is Putin - there is Russia, there is no Putin - there is no Russia", are you a relative by chance?

[Volodin]

Quote: Penetrator

Your last name is speaking.

This is stated by a "friend" with the nickname Penetrator.

[Penetrator]

Quote: Volodin

This is stated by a "friend" with the nickname Penetrator.

What is wrong with my nickname? We begin to breed flood, but still explain. Really interesting.

[Volodin]

Quote: Penetrator

What's wrong with my nickname?

You saw something in my name, some relatives began to drag in.

In general, it is time to round out this crazy conversation. He has long been away from the topic.

[guzik007]

Damn, how serious! I did not make fun of the tragedy of the dead people and their loved ones. Irony, speak? Not irony
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Sometimes it's better to chew than talk. Could just ignore the news, so no, you have to have a little fuss in the morning. So we got it, do not blame me.
in general, regular burnout of neuropsychiatric clinics suggests targeted action to alleviate the burden on local budgets. This is where the work of law enforcement agencies is needed, and not the type-violation and negligence unsubscription. all too often they burn out along with the contingent. Previously, this was not.

[Penetrator]

Quote: guzik007

This is where the work of law enforcement agencies is needed, and not the type-violation and negligence unsubscription. all too often they burn out along with the contingent. Previously, this was not.

It wasn’t before, because the fire prevention system worked - once.
Funds were allocated for maintenance of buildings and, importantly, there was control over their use - two
The general responsibility of officials was higher - three.
Etc. etc. - four.
This is a systemic crisis, nothing more.
Did you deliberately write "law enforcement" or a typo?

[guzik007]

this is a systemic crisis, nothing more.
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but what do you think, worse, a systemic crisis, or a separate headache.
According to you, it turns out that a systemic crisis is indulging in buns: =)

[Penetrator]

Quote: guzik007

According to you, it turns out that a systemic crisis is indulging in buns: =)

A systemic crisis is scary. But there is no need to fasten the conspiracy theory to it, consciously no one burns such patients.

[a housewife]

I agree with everything except "this was not the case before." Before - when? At one time, 10-15 years ago, psychiatric dispensaries and homes for the elderly were on fire every year. One house for mentally retarded children was still burned down. Commissions, conclusions - negligence, accident, old buildings. Well, one, well, two, but not as much !! Getting rid of unnecessary people? Nothing was ever fully clarified or told. Such repetitive tragedies become terrible.

[dark_65]

Listen ... the baby is too old. People have died. Feeling pain. And they don’t understand. For what .. Just sick. I hope it comes to you?

[dark_65]

there were sick people .. feel a little?

[tomket]

Quote: Penetrator

So the dispensary is neuropsychiatric! So the news is in color, for paranoid and schizophrenic

Can you cheer on the "Censor"?

[atalef]

Honestly, I don’t understand what this article is doing in VO? A tragic accident, it’s clear that in a fire (I’m saying that the structure is wooden) it was not possible to save everyone, sorry for the dead, but what can we do? the news feed is a running line, unfortunately a tragic incident, but in general there’s nothing to discuss, and how to look for the guilty ones? If there are no facts at all - there may be one of the patients (whatever the pyromaniac) set fire to, there will be a sea of ​​versions, and the point — from the discussion is zero — or it all comes down to unnecessary verbiage - an assessment article — zero — no place for her in

[Angry orc]

Well, you went in, read and commented on the news, so it was not in vain that it was posted on the VO

[tomket]

Quote: atalef

Honestly, I don’t understand what this article does on VO?

The Israeli citizen does not understand some things.

Quote: atalef

it is clear that in a fire (I dvmu that the structure is wooden) to save everyone was not real

Really would not be allowed.

Quote: atalef

we (on VO) do not have a tape - the news goes in a running line, unfortunately a tragic incident

Remember the series of tragedies at the end of the USSR, when the "Nakhimov" drowns, then Chernobyl explodes, then the gas pipeline explodes. These are all from a series of catastrophes dangerous for the country that directly affect the country's existence.

Quote: atalef

but there’s nothing to discuss in general, and how to look for those responsible?

Understand how it is and why it happened, no matter what happens.

Quote: atalef

-or everything comes down to unnecessary verbiage

It can simply be reduced to simple human sympathy. or for you only the French deserve sympathy?

Quote: atalef

no place for her in

Quote: atalef

Honestly, I don’t understand what this article is doing in VO? A tragic accident, it’s clear that in a fire (I’m saying that the structure is wooden) it was not possible to save everyone, sorry for the dead, but what can we do? the news feed is a running line, unfortunately a tragic incident, but in general there’s nothing to discuss, and how to look for the guilty ones? If there are no facts at all - there may be one of the patients (whatever the pyromaniac) set fire to, there will be a sea of ​​versions, and the point — from the discussion is zero — or it all comes down to unnecessary verbiage - an assessment article — zero — no place for her in

Your estimates - percent of 80 articles nor a place in.
Sincerely.

[derik1970]

Quote: housewife

housewife Yesterday, 23:56 ↑ New
I agree with everything except "this was not the case before." Before - when? At one time, 10-15 years ago, psychiatric dispensaries and homes for the elderly were on fire every year. One house for mentally retarded children was still burned down. Commissions, conclusions - negligence, accident, old buildings. Well, one, well, two, but not as much !! Getting rid of unnecessary people? Nothing was ever fully clarified or told. Such repetitive tragedies become terrible.

And I’ll add from myself that at one time systematically stockpiled ammunition depots in different parts of the country. And everyone attributed to the accident. Case occasion is a big difference. It leads to certain thoughts about the nonrandomness of such events.

[kursk87]

Who about what, and the dog is all about meat

[APASUS]

I honestly was bullied by the news about those who died from a fire in nursing homes, psychiatric dispensaries and orphanages. Judging by the depth of the problem, no insane person can set fire to a building equipped with all the safety rules, where basic rules are followed. Here are some forum users arguing Do we need such an article in VO, but in fact the article implies a reform of norms and rules in modern society. We are already accustomed to the idea that such theft is the norm, but after all the buildings of the heads of settlements, city halls in such numbers as nursing homes do not burn . So you can save everything and ensure a reliable level.
Until in this state they begin to cut off the hands of officials for the theft of money, nursing homes will burn indefinitely !!!

[derik1970]

The article is needed, people died, especially from our country, our compatriots. They wrote about the plane blown up in Egypt right there on the site, and the plane has never been a bomber. People are dying and this is a disaster. And in this case, they died not from simple negligence, but from the greed and theft of officials, maybe this was specially adjusted. In our country, in fact, a war is being waged against us, both at the political level and at the economic level. Well, for the time being, the interests of the government more or less coincide with the interests of the population, but we survive as we can. You probably remember the fires in warehouses with ammunition, they occurred almost one after another. In our region, there was a fire in a similar warehouse, then a fire occurred at an interval at the state reserve warehouse. The administration building burned down there, it is interesting that this building was repaired shortly before, I think that someone was burned very necessary, and then partly changed the leadership. There was an article on the site http://topwar.ru/30883-vo-vsem-vinovat-ryadovoy-shokiruyuschaya-statistika-vzryv
ov-i-pozharov-na-voennyh-poligonah-i-skladah-za-poslednie-tri-goda.html All these events suggest certain thoughts, including the security of our country and you as a whole !!!

[avvg]

It is unfortunate that those who died will always suffer from a fire (regardless of the cause of the fire), especially with limited work capacity.

[Smoked]

Again boarding schools began to burn.

[rotmistr60]

Twenty five again. More recently, it was the neuropsychiatric dispensaries that began to burn. Then, at the government level, decisions were made, the Ministry of Emergencies was digging their nose with the nose, carrying out checks. Now again? It’s time to seriously ask the governors who are used to celebrating only at the opening of something with cutting the ribbon.

[Shpagolom]

... friends, do not you think that no one in the country is responsible for anything, only switchmen are appointed .... all the POKH .... how many more people should burn ... a hundred ... a thousand? I think that history and similar tragedies do not teach us anything ... why is that? And because the country poKuistov ..... it's not funny, it's a pity for them, being alive, they didn't get much of the charm of life, but here ... the "finish" is terrible and merciless!

[Severbob]

there’s no one to answer, too, the serdyuk was burned up, but he stayed alive with the goose, the water and the boarding school

[Consul-t]

I would, on the spot of investigators, raise the personal files of patients, those who unfortunately died and those who miraculously survived. And I double-checked everything. Is there any interest in this?
Maybe everything is specially tuned?

[dchegrinec]

There have already been many such cases. In some cases, the reason was the patient smoking on the bed, and in this case most likely the same. And the reason is the lack of control. Patients are left to their own devices. The attendants were short and short. The problem of the public sector .. Governors can play a key role here.

[creak]

Quote: dchegrinec

The attendants were short and short. The problem of the public sector .. Governors can play a key role here.

Of course, it’s not enough staff in the dispensaries - of course, there are few people wishing to work for mere pennies with such a contingent in the PND. But there are no problems with the recruitment of staff in the regional administration, the service staff of the governor himself and the car fleet (not the cheapest cars), despite the fact that this is also financed from the budget ...
I have never heard reports that in the apparatus of a local tsar there were problems in work due to a lack of employees - but such problems are often found in hospitals and dispensaries ...
The solution was found - "optimization" of medical institutions, I believe, they are optimizing the wrong ones, then, looking at dispensaries and rural hospitals, money would be found ...
Otherwise, new tragedies cannot be avoided - however, things are still there, it seems, everything will be limited, as always, to the next checks and punishment of switchmen ...

[Sergey333]

Why in VO ?! Yes, because you need to look wider. In Moscow, 50 protesters were arrested, there is a verbal skirmish with the US ambassador and then suddenly a socially significant event - dozens of victims, where all the strings are prudently led to poor funding. I don’t mean that the US spy came and set fire - no one can ever prove it, but to the fact that recently the percentage of inadequately behaving people in the world has jumped sharply. Try to consider such an event not separately, but in the aggregate of what is happening in the world: is it by chance ....?

[iv-nord]

This is not the first tragedy. Where are the actions after investigations of past cases? It’s clear - financing, low salaries, non-compliance with the rules, etc. and people are dying.

[vladimirvn]

Yes, optimization paces the country, dividing people into the right and the wrong. Of those who were kicked out, not all will rise. You will say natural selection. I will say bestial attitude towards people. Formally, some people offer retraining. But mostly people are forgiven thrown away. On the one hand, there is an acute question of a shortage of specialists; on the other, no one is training them. To outbid a specialist, squeeze everything out of him and throw him away, this is the paradigm of labor relations today.

[ilya_oz]

I read that almost 150 thousand people are in such institutions. I never would have thought that there are so many of them.

[1536]

I thought the old news, last year. It turns out no, new. Or do we have something old somewhere sitting? Probably this favorite thesis of the authorities: "It will happen with you, we will come." We arrived, ascertained, until next year, or maybe a month, or a day. In the end, only the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the FSB and the Armed Forces will remain. Optimal ratio, in the spirit of the day! "Russia is Europe!"

[AdekvatNICK]

By the way, here it is our trait. As soon as the responsible persons found out about the tragedy, the government immediately decided to allocate money for the repairs of all boarding schools. Question: What ..... ..... !!! .. have .... I. !!! ... ... yeah ..

.... forever waiting for something to catch fire or explode only then you start yours ... move yours. Our eternal state stupidity.

[tomket]

Earth down dead.

[fairmen]

Yes, let people die, let people be sick, but people are a very big tragedy for the whole country, but there are facts and you can’t get anywhere from them, and I’m more than sure that there will be more tragedies because this is not the first and not the last but all that firefighters all over the country they are reducing and no sorry now it’s called differently they are optimizing 2-3 firefighters in the guard units and what can be done to evacuate so well if people go out themselves and no so write everything and that’s what you need to talk about and not gossip that in 2-3 years at such a pace we will generally be left without fire protection, because literally last week about 500 people were optimized in all garrison centers of the fire protection center in the Voronezh garrison, and the salary accordingly makes itself felt -51 thousand and drove up to 10 who will work for this money in this Ministry of Emergency Situations and the young people don’t go to the fire and they all remained until retirement 15-12000 years.

[31rus]

Dear, the news is tragic, I express my condolences to the relatives of the victims. The question is what does this article do in the VO, and what do articles about the acts do? Tragedy is all that unites, why should victims in Paris be worried, and there will be no tragic death without help patients, I'm ashamed for you

[Ilya77]

Something often began to burn, all of it was suspicious .. Of course, I did not expect to see it like that at the VO, but here for a long time there have been less and less articles really related to the MILITARY Review, more and more politics, history, or 101 series of armored-stealth sracha from Oleg K . and to.
There used to be a magazine - Foreign Military Review, it was possible to get acquainted with foreign news, in the Soviets they were not fools, they published a similar magazine, they understood that in order to make good weapons they should look at what others are doing, and if there is something sensible - to adopt, and not just shouting that everything is the best with us and that the others there do not wave.

[scorpiosys]

They are not economically beneficial to a country with a GIANT interest in economic benefits.

[scorpiosys]

And who remembers them all by name?