The first details of the death of Ataman Dremov in the LPR

The deputy head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the LPR, Yuri Govtvin, revealed some details of the death of the commander of the 6 Cossack regiment Pavel Dremov.

Earlier, the republican prosecutor's office reported that the ataman was blown up in his own car. The Interior Ministry said that behind the crime are the Ukrainian special services. Together with Dremov the driver of the car was killed.

The explosion occurred on Saturday near 13: 20 in Pervomaisk, near a gas station. The explosive device was inside the car.

“An explosion occurred in the car in which Dremov Pavel Leonidovich was located. As a result of the explosion, the car was badly damaged, all the doors of the car, the roof of the car were broken, the windows were broken, the seats in the cabin were torn from the explosion. As a result, the driver was thrown out of the cabin by a strong blast wave, and the passenger (Pavel Leonidovich Dremov) died on the spot ”,

quotes Govtvina RIA News.

“The driver was given first aid, but he died on the way to the hospital,” he added.

“For the objective investigation and solving of the crime in the republic, the operational plan“ Sirena ”was introduced, - the deputy minister stressed. “The entire structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs has been transferred to enhanced duty, the investigation is led personally by the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.”

Earlier, the prosecutor’s office voiced several versions of what happened: “the attack of Ukrainian saboteurs, the settling of accounts on the basis of personal hostility, the elimination in the face of the Cossack commander of a competitor, and the careless handling of ammunition.”

The case was initiated under Art. 113 of the Criminal Code of LNR - “the deliberate murder of two or more persons in a socially dangerous way”.

Comments

[Signore Tomato]

Rather, the second - the greasy attacks ...

[Dryuya2]

Quote: Signor Tomato

bold attacks

1. ji shi
2. If you are talking about Petya, then he will not have enough intelligence.

[Drmadfisher]

and Petya?

[fraer]

Interview for March. Look somewhere 9-40.
The interview shows that such a management organization is subject to physical destruction.

[Dryuya2]

Quote: DrMadfisher

and Petya?

Plotnitsky generally "missed"
and again the wrong flight - "bird" (OO I doubt very much that this is his personal initiative)

[st25310]

We will not rush to conclusions who attack, but as they like to say, at the top of the guilty, an investigation and a court must be established.

[g1v2]

Video a year ago. Since then, everything has changed a long time ago. Cossacks long ago joined the LPR, and 3 months after the video, Dremov took the banner from the hands of Plotnitsky and greeted his hand. The Platov regiment became part of the nm and became the 6th regiment of the second corps of the people's militia. Commander Dremov has long been subordinate and not fronted. By the way, coal and the Cossacks traded very well.
For the info that is now known, they liquidated Dremov according to the dismantling scheme of the 90s. Someone called and asked to come. On the way, he stopped at a group of Cossacks, or he was asked to stop. Apparently while he was talking, they planted explosives in the car. Or she was slipped by the restaurant, but the driver and security guards would most likely have noticed. Of course, one of the Cossacks was clearly involved.

[I am Russian]

The car in which Ataman Dremov was located was presented for the wedding. It is thought that the explosive device was already planted. Then a question for personal protection.

[Santa Fe]

The most common gangster showdown in the "people's republic"
loot against evil

already passed

[unsinkable]

Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN

ordinary gang warfare

Why defame the name of an honest Cossack, an analyst between the two. Usually people without dough fight with evil. That's it, you passed ... but by.

[vvv-73]

Yes, this is all Surkov’s affairs, if not directly, then for sure his fat protege.

[dchegrinec]

It is not yet known who laid the charge! There are quite a few Judas among “their own”.

[Wolverine]

The main thing is not who laid the charge, but who ordered ...

[starchina pv]

someone wants to be a great commander-in-chief! here and the guys are being removed slowly. eternal memory to the Cossack !!!

[scientist]

First, commit a terrorist attack, and then direct suspicions to the inner circle. Everything is in the "best" traditions of Goebbels and Bandera. Of course, the investigation needs to consider all versions, including betrayal, but trends in the information field are alarming.

[rotmistr60]

“An attack by Ukrainian saboteurs, settling accounts on the basis of personal hostile relations, eliminating a competitor in the person of the Cossack commander, as well as careless handling of ammunition.”

Standard versions when committing such a crime. Personally, I think that you should not rush with your "versions", especially not professionals. Better to wait for the results of the investigation, and then discuss. And to the deceased, eternal memory and condolences to relatives.

[sichevik]

Quote: rotmistr60

“An attack by Ukrainian saboteurs, settling accounts on the basis of personal hostile relations, eliminating a competitor in the person of the Cossack commander, as well as careless handling of ammunition.”

Standard versions when committing such a crime. Personally, I think that you should not rush with your "versions", especially not professionals. Better to wait for the results of the investigation, and then discuss. And to the deceased, eternal memory and condolences to relatives.

Are you sure that we will wait for true and honest results? Personally, I - no !!! You and I are getting into another convenient (for some) version. And then someone else uncomfortable and intractable will be killed ... It will continue. The process began, as the once-marked Judas used to say (what would he hiccup day and night). First Bezler, now here Dremov ... Who is next?

[Shpagolom]

... Who is behind the project "people's republics", I think the capital, so there is nothing "people's" in the DPR and LPR and will not be, the world is ruled by loot, all the romantically inclined are sent to the pro-fathers ....!

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: sichevik

Are you sure that we will wait for true and honest results? Personally, I - no !!! You and I are getting into another convenient (for some) version. And then they will kill someone else uncomfortable and intractable ...

Well, you don’t need to wait for an investigation. As Ukrainians, you already know who killed and any other conclusion of the investigation will not suit you. Correctly?

[sichevik]

Quote: Rusich not from Kiev

Quote: sichevik

Are you sure that we will wait for true and honest results? Personally, I - no !!! You and I are getting into another convenient (for some) version. And then they will kill someone else uncomfortable and intractable ...

Well, you don’t need to wait for an investigation. As Ukrainians, you already know who killed and any other conclusion of the investigation will not suit you. Correctly?

And you and me, what did they drink at the Brudershaft? Or served together, what is already on you? I’ll answer your statements - personally, I don’t know who killed Dremov. I also do not know who killed Bezler, Brain. Investigations of their killings have advanced significantly? Until now, no one really knows who killed them. By the way, do you know? If you know, then enlighten us ignorant ... And yet off topic. Try to at least somehow indicate intonation in your opus, put punctuation marks. And it turns out just a set of words. Just like the Kiev mayor.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Without punctuation marks in order to reach the addressee faster.

I kind of raised the question clearly. Are you happy with any conclusion of the investigation or not?

Who killed Bezler, where and why?

[sichevik]

1. At the expense of the murder of Bezler - sorry, mixed up with Bednov. With whom it does not happen ... So Igor Nikolaevich will live a very long time. 2. Do not think badly about opponents. Not everyone is dumb and reaches the majority very quickly, but with punctuation marks even faster. A lot of people sitting in high school got their education back in the USSR, and by the way, I, too. But it has long been recognized by everyone that the Soviet education system was one of the best. If not the best. 3. Did I write that I would be satisfied with any results of the investigation? I will be satisfied with the true results of the investigation. I simply expressed doubts that they would be voiced.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: sichevik

Do not think badly about opponents. Not everyone is dumb and reaches the majority very quickly, but with punctuation marks even faster.

I don’t think you think hard. There was another subtext

Quote: sichevik

I will be satisfied with the true results of the investigation. I simply expressed doubts that they would be voiced.

True .this are what? How do you determine the truth? For example, it turns out that the bomb was planted by SBU recruited people who had confidence in the environment of Dryomov. It may well be, since there are plenty of agents there. There were many of them in the militia and probably there are now. You accept it or say that nonsense?
Most likely they will not voice it, as they will not.

Quote: sichevik

sorry, confused with Bednov

Well, everything is clear with him and it’s kind of voiced. Killed during the detention. It’s practically true, except for the fact that they wanted to kill him, and then detain him.

[giperion121]

There is information that killed them all so-called. "PMC Wagner".
Formally, it does not exist, but is really subordinate to the RF Ministry of Defense. So it goes. So there is a drain in full, or rather, it has long been.
http://russorum.livejournal.com/33953.html

[giperion121]

UPD.
Indeed, it could have been removed by local businessmen, merged with the authorities, who illegally put coal into ruin, and Dremov, as you know, put sticks in the wheels for them, so the Russian leadership has nothing to do with it, only one of the versions is presented above. However, our leadership led to such a bad economic and political situation in the Donbass, refusing to recognize the republic.
But the version with the weakening of the militia through the murders of ideological commanders for the subsequent implementation of the scenario of the Serbian Krajina also has a place to be, neither our nor the Ukrainian oligarchs need an independent Donbass.

[giperion121]

Clearly who. Shooters.

[giperion121]

Well, yes, the investigation certainly will get to the bottom of the truth.
The naivety of citizens is what makes the authorities eat so much fish soup.

[sichevik]

It is unlikely that it is dill. It’s very cleanly worked. Somehow precisely and precisely remove influential and independent commanders. Most likely he was killed by competitors from the LPR. Very much Dremov was independent. Some people did not like it very much. Some garbage is going on there.

[Stirbjorn]

Well, lay a mine in the car, this is not an ambush to arrange on the road. I can’t believe in DRG

[kassandra1991]

This word is being created not only among them, but, unfortunately, among us. All right, Dremov, the kingdom of heaven, said: .... stop stealing .... do not kill faith in people. And this is addressed not only to the leadership of New Russia. The tops sit out in the heat, and to die, if it suddenly comes to civilian life, there will be a simple peasant and small innocent children. It is a pity that the best die.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: sichevik

It is unlikely that it is dill. It’s very cleanly worked. Somehow precisely and precisely remove influential and independent commanders. Most likely he was killed by competitors from the LPR. Very much Dremov was independent. Some people did not like it very much. Some garbage is going on there.

Nobody in the republics needed to kill Dremov. He was always under military control and carried out all military orders. No one was taught how to fight and plan operations. With the slogans about what watered. formation should not be protruded. All his hostility to Plotnitsky and criticism in comparison with the recent arrests in the LPR are simply childish amusements. Therefore, the murder of Dremyov by the LPR leadership is simply nonsense.

By the way, plant a Ukrainian bomb. RDGs could easily, since they have a great agent there. network and how many agents of the SBU serves in the militia we do not know. So the version with dill can not be folded.

[eugraphus]

I would not hurry with hasty conclusions. If later it turns out that the one whom you thought was accused of a crime, and he had nothing to do with it? It’s not good then. Write a public apology?

[Riv]

Well, where are the details? The fact that the car was blown up was immediately known. The fact that the case was brought was also obvious. Does the minister take control? Well, this is an important detail, definitely.
On the Sunday topwar in the news feed all the scales. Normally.

[alone]

They remove the unwanted people. They simply and trite kill. They kill by any means. Because they dislike the unwanted. They interfere with robbing and appropriating. The humanitarian aid is plundered and sold in the market. And the money flows into the necessary pockets.

[15ghost10]

Quote: sichevik

It is unlikely that it is dill. It’s very cleanly worked

I agree with you. I will not say who did it, because I do not know and do not have such information. In my opinion, people who were associated with Akhmetov worked (therefore, it is possible that specialists from "theirs" worked, understand what you want). For example, were you not alarmed by the fact that in 2014 the militias were not allowed to take Mariupol at 100% opportunity to do it? And everything is simple, in Mariupol there are Akhmetov-Tarutov enterprises, the same MK named after Ilyich, ports, etc. And everyone knows that Akhmetka is in close contact with the same Surkov and other "curators". For what purpose - well, of course, preserve the remnants of your empire.
And ideological commanders are being killed for one reason: because they just showed what the ideal results of the Maidan are - the exclusion of oligarchs from management and the nationalization of their assets. But they will not be allowed to do this. And there is one weighty reason - the successful construction of such a model of society will raise questions among the population in Russia about local figures who grabbed all assets in Russia for a song in the 90s. Although, according to the clever curators of the LDNR, on the contrary, it was necessary to show, using the example of the republics of the rest of Ukraine, how Ukrainian society can develop without oligarchs. Then the population of Ukraine, seeing an illustrative example of the LPNR "as a system without oligarchs," would itself ask the Poroshenko, Kolomoisky, etc. questions.

[volodimer]

I wish you were wrong, but it seems that oligarchic capitalism is much better prepared to help each other. Ideological they are honest and open, therefore dangerous. I wanted to write that they were ideological and naive, but I think that both Mozgovoy and Dremov knew what their position threatened them with, but if you are convinced, you won’t change it.
And the oligarchs worked out similar methods of eliminating opponents in the 90s, and it doesn’t matter if they are Ukrainian, Russian or Lugansk.

[gg.na]

Versions other than voiced here may be several more. Time will tell, they will figure out what is who and when and how. Wait!

[WHEEL]

will not share power in the "republics" like hungry rats hawku.

[Al_oriso]

An open war has subsided or is subsiding, is being inflamed political war, which was mentioned in one of the previous articles.

[azesm]

Quote: lonely

The deputy head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the LPR, Yuri Govtvin, revealed some details of the death of the commander of the 6 Cossack regiment Pavel Dremov.

The first details of the death of Ataman Dremov in the LPR


Earlier, the republican prosecutor's office reported that the ataman was blown up in his own car. The Interior Ministry said that behind the crime are the Ukrainian special services. Together with Dremov the driver of the car was killed.
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The explosion occurred on Saturday near 13: 20 in Pervomaisk, near a gas station. The explosive device was inside the car.

“An explosion occurred in the car in which Dremov Pavel Leonidovich was located. As a result of the explosion, the car was badly damaged, all the doors of the car, the roof of the car were broken, the windows were broken, the seats in the cabin were torn from the explosion. As a result, the driver was thrown out of the cabin by a strong blast wave, and the passenger (Pavel Leonidovich Dremov) died on the spot ”,
quoted by Govtvin RIA Novosti.

“The driver was given first aid, but he died on the way to the hospital,” he added.

“For the objective investigation and solving of the crime in the republic, the operational plan“ Sirena ”was introduced, - the deputy minister stressed. “The entire structure of the Ministry of Internal Affairs has been transferred to enhanced duty, the investigation is led personally by the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.”

Earlier, the prosecutor’s office voiced several versions of what happened: “the attack of Ukrainian saboteurs, the settling of accounts on the basis of personal hostility, the elimination in the face of the Cossack commander of a competitor, and the careless handling of ammunition.”

The case was initiated under Art. 113 of the Criminal Code of LNR - “the deliberate murder of two or more persons in a socially dangerous way”.

I’ll tell you a terrible secret: he was killed after Bednov, Ishchenko and Mozgov because they could have bucked when transferring the border to Kiev. this will take place in the very near future.
drain of New Russia is veiled

[B.T.V.]

Quote: azesm

because they could have bucked when transferring the border to Kiev. this will take place in the very near future.
drain of New Russia is veiled

Was this personally reported to you? !!! Or, you, one of those who are closely involved in the "drain of Novorossii" ?!

[provincial]

Message from the militia with the callsign "Sych".

"I only wanted to give a summary of the battle, but I was told terrible, if true, news. The commander of really one of the most combat-ready units of Donbass - the 6th separate Cossack regiment named after Platov, Pavel Dremov, was killed. , on this they have already begun to speculate, together with the Ukrainian media. People, wait at least 3 days before you start accusing everyone. I have already been informed that the FSB special forces and the already long-suffering "Wagner" (who is accused everywhere and always) are accused. Plotnitsky (of course, where without him) and even Putin personally (soon as the Ukrainians will be) ... I will not blame anyone, I will just say that in my opinion, and in the opinion of several more fighters next to me, every murder of commanders is done those who are most profitable to shake the situation in the LPNR and create discord ... And then think for yourself who benefits from it. Personally, in case of full confirmation of the information about the death, I want to add that we will never forget this commander,as well as Mozgovoy and Ishchenko ... These 3 commanders were indeed the rays of the sun of Novorossiya. Now, according to the combat situation, the enemy has really created already huge fists near our borders. Every day there are more than a dozen large attacks. Large UAV activity. The hottest spots are Bakhmutka and Popasnaya (B in the LPR). The enemy here uses both tanks and mortars ... And suffers losses from air conditioner explosions and not careful handling of weapons! We also suffer losses ... But not as large as the enemy. The Armed Forces of the LPR are ready to meet the enemy, and may God help us all, soldiers, civilians and command! We believe in victory!

[Santa Claus]

There will be no investigation results. .
As well as with the previous commander.
All quietly lower the brakes. The only problem is that they are knocked out on the eve of a new round of another war in the Donbass. This is very alarming.
And the question remains - who and when is next?

[atlantida04]

The deceased has eternal memory and condolences to his family.
in the 90s, everyone who was not pleased was removed as well, even with frantic protection. why can not you do this with the top of the junta ???? and then look and the troops would withdraw.
gangsters - gangster ......

[chunga-changa]

Well, the next Givi. He was already "hinted" in March. The only chance is if he leaves right now.
Although, I think when the LDNR issue is resolved, all those who left will be handed over to "Ukrainian justice." After the "victory", about 3.000 Russian soldiers were sent to Chechnya, "for crimes", the issue has already been worked out.

[Stepan stepanovich]

Письask what.
And then, the body, (about shooting) type is not in the know!

[Lone wolf]

Damn well, purely dismantling dashing 90 ... I don’t need about the Ukrainian SBU and other saboteurs the wrong figure of Dremov ,,, traces go into the economy ... Abysses. Brain. Dremov ,,,,, are there not too many such cases for the LPR ... the brothers remove those who prevent them from sawing the coal pie .... Why did the men die in battle?

[padded jacket]

It is a pity for Dremov, he was a man with a capital letter, a real patriot who fought for the rights of ordinary people and not for various opportunists for whom only "crisp" pieces of paper such as dollars, euros and shekels are important and for which they are ready to do everything to betray, deceive, slander, kill.
Eternal memory to you.

[rus-5819]

Blessed memory, Dremov Pavel Leonidovich !!!

[March]

something in the LC is not right :(. The brain was killed, now Dremova, and besides the words that we will avenge the Armed Forces of Ukraine (are they?) no action!

[RUSS]

In the news on central TV, not a word about the attempt and murder of Dremov, the question is why? And again, why are not quite loyal leaders removed? There is a suspicion of the Donbass powers that be.

[regsSSSR]

Ataman Kozitsyn squeezed out of the LPR to Russia about the killing of Dremov.

1. According to him, there was information that Dremov should have been killed within 4-5 days and he Dremov warned about this, but he did not take these warnings seriously enough and did not care enough about his protection.
2. The bomb was planted in a car given to Dremov.
“Enemies go for everything, even vile killings. As I was told, they gave him this car, in which he was blown up, and the mine was already in the car. ”
If so, then you need to look who gave him this car.
3. Blames some unnamed "jackals in uniform" and declares that the murder of Dremov was committed by traitors to Russia's interests.
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com

[VadimSt]

I respect Kassad’s opinion, but it’s necessary to consider not only domestic political versions, but all the more so, not unreasonable ones. Here is one of them.
Knowing the desire of some "leaders" to show anyone "who is the boss", and even more so if this "anyone" turns out to be the owner of a cool car, it is easy to calculate everything in advance and work professionally, which the Ukrainian security service most likely demonstrated.

1. The car appeared at Borshchevsky quite recently. A car with Ukrainian license plates and an infallible appearance. Where did he get it, didn't he buy it in the salon? Knowing in which case the car will certainly be "wrung out", it only remained to "equip" it and substitute it for "hitting and spinning". For example, the former Stakhanov philanthropist Shakhov could have paid money for a car for the operation.
2. Further, the logic of the change of ownership was simple and calmly could be calculated based on the moment, psychology and other moral and ethical gadgets - Best friend, commander, wedding and so on. But, the fact of the change of ownership was easily predictable in advance.
3. As soon as the logic chain is closed, the radio fuse circuit is also closed. The explosion occurred in the lowland formed by the riverbed. Luhanka (separating the cities Teplogorsk and Pervomaisk) along which the neutral zone has a maximum of one hour in any direction. The route of movement predicted by 90%, Pasha's Cossacks control the Kalinov-Pervomaisk-Zolotoye area, it is easy to fix his presence in the car, as the height difference is large, especially since he went out to his soldiers in front of the bridge.

At the same time, the goals and objectives justify themselves in the triple - remove Dremov (authoritative and independent), sow distrust among the Cossacks (mine inside the car), transfer the arrows to the LPR leadership (long-standing graters). True, it’s easier for many to shout to Plotnitsky or Zakharchenko, it’s understandable - you can’t count on more, sitting hundreds of kilometers away, with the logic of the average person and knowledge of the situation from the media!

[regsSSSR]

In memory of the hero of New Russia Pavel Dremov, who played a big role in the formation of the Luhansk People's Republic.