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Fallon will ask the Pentagon to speed up the delivery of Britain by Poseidon aircraft because of Russian submarines

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The head of the British Defense Ministry, Michael Fallon, said that he would ask his American counterpart Ashton Carter not to delay the delivery of Boeing P8 Poseidon naval intelligence aircraft, which are necessary for the United Kingdom because of the activity of Russian submarines.




"With regard to the question of accelerating the arrival of P8 ... Yes, there will be discussions, and I hope that this afternoon," the newspaper quoted the minister. Look.

“We need this. The growth of the Russian submarines and the development of the next generation (submarines) means that we need to increase these capabilities as soon as possible, ”he said.

The publication reminds that this year the British Navy asked the Allies three times to assist them in finding a Russian submarine that "may try to carry out espionage activities."
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  1. maxim1987
    maxim1987 12 December 2015 12: 56 New
    +6
    let's burn kerosene
    1. cniza
      cniza 12 December 2015 12: 59 New
      +8
      Quote: maximNNX
      let's burn kerosene


      “We need this. The growth of the Russian submarines and the development of the next generation (submarines) means that we need to increase these capabilities as soon as possible, ”he said.

      You are not Swedes, choose another topic for yourself, for example, about underground troops you have many abandoned mines and our new V.S. are concentrated there.
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 12 December 2015 13: 15 New
        +3
        By the way, it is necessary to tell the small-shirts that Russia is developing underground boats that the USSR began to develop. Let the miners be hired.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 12 December 2015 14: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander 3
          By the way, it is necessary to tell the small-shirts that Russia is developing underground boats that the USSR began to develop. Let the miners be hired.

          You can simply throw a noise simulator into the ocean from any aircraft, you will need 300 pieces of Poseidon to understand what is happening.
      2. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 12 December 2015 13: 44 New
        +1
        Well, what pounced? A nervous breakdown in a person, it is necessary to understand.
        "I do not agree! Primus! Primus! Moskva seamstress! Dad, a couple more! Torment, as in the tsarist regime! I’m wounded on Kolchak’s fronts! Abyrvalg! I wish everyone!"
        And that’s all. The hysteria has passed. And again, Royal London English ...
      3. hrych
        hrych 12 December 2015 13: 48 New
        +5
        Thanks to the INF Treaty, the most important center of evil and Russophobia, namely London, until recently, nothing was in danger. There was a paradox that we could burn the USA, and there was nothing to get the shaved queen with cousins ​​in the Dutch kingdom (the question immediately arose: In whose interests was the INF Treaty). And this did not concern marine carriers, but we know what the fleet of Anglo-Saxons is like. More than 70% of the US ICBMs, in the form of Trident II missiles, are on Ohio boats, plus 4 British Wengards carry them. Moreover, the snowstorm about the Trident's intercontinentality, although it continues to be exaggerated, however, the missile is only of medium range, but it carries a decent amount of warheads. If the United States can understand its presence, however, the British Wengards to shoot from the British Isles in the USSR, the intercontinental is excessive (as a hint, from London to the Urals in a straight line of 3500 km) ...
        Now the Kyrgyz Republic’s line completely covers the Buckingham Palace, and Bulava, Yars and Rubezh are able to fly along a quasi-ballistic trajectory, they are universal and apart from intercontinental distances they fly closer, covering the average distance, which American hysteria had already taken place when they calculated the distance from Kapustin Yara to Sarah Shgan. And Iskander is again a strange system, and in addition to its KR, it can throw a special warhead from Prussia, which is 5-10 times lighter than a half-ton high-explosive, again on Albion. And there, in addition to the royal family, the "oldest" Masonic lodges of the Scottish charter, by "coincidence", the main offices of TNCs such as BP, Shel, etc. And in the USA, what? A talking monkey in the White House, yes Fort Knox with gilded tungsten ingots ...
        1. plotnikov561956
          plotnikov561956 12 December 2015 14: 02 New
          +1
          "... Thanks to the INF Treaty, the most important center of evil and Russophobia, namely London, until recently, nothing was in danger."
          I think ... You are deeply mistaken ... the opportunity to erase an island has always been
          1. hrych
            hrych 12 December 2015 14: 14 New
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            Tactical missiles from our borders to Lon Dan did not reach, and ICBMs flew, their range from 5500 km and above. The distance from Kapustin Yar to Sary-Shagan is the same as from the Urals to London, i.e. about 3,5 thousand km. (i.e. the diocese of medium-range missiles from 1000 to 5500 km). We take into account that to instantly destroy PU located in the depths of the territory, which the Urals undoubtedly is, having a reserve of flight time for a guaranteed answer ...
            Now, the development of technology has allowed to increase the range of tactical weapons and transfer ICBMs to a quasi-ballistic trajectory, and even with maneuvering the warhead.
            1. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 12 December 2015 18: 33 New
              +2
              And if you measure the distance to London from Vladivostok, you get about 12 km.! What, if not an intercontinental missile, "bullet"? Thanks to its size, Russia is not a problem to answer the closest "partners"!
            2. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 12 December 2015 18: 33 New
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              And if you measure the distance to London from Vladivostok, you get about 12 km.! What, if not an intercontinental missile, "bullet"? Thanks to its size, Russia is not a problem to answer the closest "partners"!
      4. afrikanez
        afrikanez 12 December 2015 14: 36 New
        0
        There would be brains, maybe they came up with it! They have all their lives cliche. fool
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    3. War and Peace
      War and Peace 12 December 2015 13: 22 New
      +1
      and what to do our submarines off the coast of Britain? If we can, we can also shoot off the pier from London. And nuclear mines have been standing there for a long time and are not going to reveal themselves, and when we need to arrange a big cannon for shaved, as for espionage activities, then in Britain there is nothing that interests us ...
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 12 December 2015 13: 46 New
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      I believe he is right, you need to quickly transfer the "Poseidons" for the Royal Air Force. Without tests, without training crews, without inspections from the headquarters of the Air Force, you can not even put all the equipment! ... Faster, Russian boats are already sailing laughing
    5. Observer2014
      Observer2014 12 December 2015 14: 18 New
      +1
      Fallon will ask the Pentagon to speed up the delivery of Britain by Poseidon aircraft because of Russian submarines
      Yeah, you can ask as much as you like. But if the missile defense system is not curtailed, then the "Status 6" will have to be taken out by the British how to drink it. And against these "king of torpedoes" you are the first kayuk on the island.
    6. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 12 December 2015 14: 26 New
      +2
      In shame! Royal Navy cannot even provide itself with intelligence. The former metropolis is taken from the former colony.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 12 December 2015 16: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        In shame! Royal Navy cannot even provide itself with intelligence. The former metropolis is taken from the former colony.

        If Britons started talking about our submarines, it means that our sailors do not eat their bread in vain. And next year, according to Shoigu in the report, we will get two more multi-purpose submarines. I hope Kazan (the Yasen project) will be handed over to the fleet.
    7. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 12 December 2015 16: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: maximNNX
      let's burn kerosene

      Anti-submarine aircraft are needed primarily to determine the exact location of the enemy submarine, direct attack, and guidance anti-submarine forces.
      Naturally combing the surroundings 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year is impossible, the ocean is large. Even around Britain, thousands of square kilometers of the ocean.
      Anti-submarine aircraft are good in addition to the stationary sonar network. The network detects the submarine and flies anti-submarine plane.
  2. venaya
    venaya 12 December 2015 12: 59 New
    +4
    S ... t means respected. This should be used to the maximum for the sake of the security of our country. They wouldn’t crap themselves, then they wouldn’t be afraid.
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 12 December 2015 13: 19 New
      0
      several ships go out of repair and modernization, so they are afraid
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 12 December 2015 13: 01 New
    +2
    It would be better if they asked for a subnet for catching submarines, otherwise they are teeming there.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 December 2015 13: 02 New
    +1
    What a strange news. Some patrolmen without a naval component will not enhance anything special. Long-playing "cut", I suppose. In order to raise hysteria in the media, they are looking for a black cat in a dark room.
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 12 December 2015 13: 26 New
      +1
      As you rightly noted, they are going to search for the Cat)))) Only the real -971 project.
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      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 12 December 2015 18: 02 New
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        Mountain shooter
        What a strange news. Some patrolmen without a naval component will not enhance anything special. Long-playing "cut", I suppose. In order to raise hysteria in the media, they are looking for a black cat in a dark room.

        I have the same impression. The Pentagon is enriched by having its people in the military departments of NATO countries.
  5. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 12 December 2015 13: 03 New
    +1
    Shaking with fear, with ... shaved dogs ?! Shake !!!
  6. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 12 December 2015 13: 03 New
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    As if all these drills, did not act like the Turks - at a distance of several miles from their borders, having discovered the submarine, they did not accuse Russia of a "threat" ... sad
    It would be necessary for Russia to provide submarines with systems that prevent their detection.
  7. yuriy55
    yuriy55 12 December 2015 13: 05 New
    +2
    They would have already started building a new ark to sail away (if that ... request ) to your striped friends ...
    There, overseas, th-o-o-rado calmer ...
    soldier
  8. AlexTires
    AlexTires 12 December 2015 13: 09 New
    +1
    English intelligence and without intelligence are good at inventing and seeing the presence of Russian submarines. And where I can’t imagine shaving, the Scandinavians and the Balts will do it for them ...
  9. izya top
    izya top 12 December 2015 13: 11 New
    +5
    why buy airplanes? invite the Swedes, they have experience, they will find lol
  10. nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 12 December 2015 13: 12 New
    +2
    A bit off topic.In the Barents Sea, the Sineva rocket was successfully launched
    The launch was carried out as part of the verification of the reliability of the marine strategic nuclear deterrence system. On Saturday, the Sineva ballistic missile was successfully launched from the Barents Sea from the strategic nuclear missile cruiser (SSBN) Verkhoturye, TASS reports.

    keep it up drinks
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 12 December 2015 13: 50 New
      +1
      Why not the topic, even the very topic. The islands can change the name, well, for example, "Arkhangelsk-67"))) Not well, not the "New Land", but still)))
      I think everyone understood what kind of islands in question.
  11. pvv113
    pvv113 12 December 2015 13: 15 New
    +2
    The British Navy asked Allies three times to help them find a Russian submarine

    The Swedes were also looking for our submarine, but alas! hi
  12. nikolas 83
    nikolas 83 12 December 2015 13: 17 New
    +1
    And our VKS are experiencing a shock drone. I hope this is true.
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  14. Altona
    Altona 12 December 2015 13: 35 New
    0
    Always look at this plane I see the Boeing-737. In general, this kind of aircraft is a serious thing in terms of intelligence, it is full of all kinds of equipment, all kinds of powerful scanners, cameras ... It’s capable of exploring large areas of water ... I wonder when such drones will appear?
  15. Kibl
    Kibl 12 December 2015 13: 38 New
    +3
    The Britons have always been skillful provocateurs, but now they have made a difference, they’re degrading in the face! And hell with them, they are fools, they are raging extremists, they’re creating all kinds of “Sharia police”, but they’re talking about some Russian nuclear submarines! cut, so they need it!
  16. cap
    cap 12 December 2015 13: 49 New
    +3
    Speaking at the meeting Atlantic Council in WashingtonFallon confirmed: "We discussed with Russia the introduction of certain measures to prevent any miscalculations or accidents regarding its long-range aviation."
    "In recent months, we have observed several incidents of invasion of the British flight information region. These aircraft did not respond to requests from air traffic controllers or signals from aircraft that we sent to intercept," the head of the British defense department added. "The attempt - in Crimea and Ukraine - by force change international borders, constant pressure on the Baltic countries, increased activity of long-range aviation, increased activity of submarines - all of this means that, unfortunately, Russia has become a rival and a threat against which we must take countermeasures "- said Fallon.
    "We must confront Russian aggression and cannot ignore the threat posed by Russia," he remarked.
    These are our rebooted partners hi
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 December 2015 13: 59 New
    +2
    I have one question for all forum users. Here I look at all these gayropeytsy with the Americans, at the statements of their representatives of the Foreign Ministries, presidents, prime ministers, and am amazed. The wretchedness of thought, the inability to even express this thought, incompetence, the desire to pass off black as white, turn everything upside down, slander everyone and everyone who only tells the truth. Especially in these talk shows. Support these dill seafarers. As soon as anyone in Europe expresses his own idea that is different from the generally accepted, but rather generally tied up, so everything is necessarily some kind of provocation, initiation of a fabricated case, etc., examples of the sea. Does it seem to me or is it really so ??? After all, if I am right, we need to prepare very seriously for a large kneading.
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 12 December 2015 17: 54 New
      0
      And who said that we are not preparing?
      If you work at a state-owned enterprise, the question would disappear by itself. (Requests from 2 ministries) Just like in the old "good" 80s
    2. Mera joota
      Mera joota 12 December 2015 21: 17 New
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      Quote: Ros 56
      Does it seem to me or is it really so ???

      The domestic media pours you what you want to hear, because you will not check the original anyway. The worldview thus formed is supported so that they do not pay attention to the outrage. You are pleased to live in an illusory world created by propaganda, in this world everyone is afraid of Russia and strives to destroy it. In reality, we are NOT interesting to anyone except a handful of politicians, and no one is afraid of us, which Turkey has confirmed recently ....
  18. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 12 December 2015 14: 01 New
    +1
    afraid how shaves are afraid
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  20. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 12 December 2015 14: 46 New
    +1
    Racing with the devil is called. Delirium tremens tortured our enemies! And how can airplanes help them? America itself does not know how to find us ..
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 12 December 2015 20: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: dchegrinec
      And how can airplanes help them?
      Highly mobile, well-armed, have great search engine performance. They spent their Nimrods at rest, so replacement is required. In order not to waste time on R&D, we wanted to follow the path of the Tridents.
      But it did not grow together!
      As the British Sunday newspaper The Sunday Times reported on November 1, 2015, the UK government decided to refuse to prepare for the publication of the new Strategic Defense and Security Review (SDSR-2015) planned for publication in November 2015. from the proposed acquisition of 9 new US Boeing P-8A Poseidon base patrol aircraft totaling approximately £ 2 billion. The ministers of the British government decided that the R-8A aircraft are "extremely expensive" and called for a postponement of their procurement program.
      And this despitethat India bought 8 cars for $ 2,1 billion. and ordered 4 more; Australia 8 + 4 for 4 billion dollars.
      SSHA plans to purchase 117 units to replace 196 P-3 Orion.
      The car is serious: 6 external and 5 internal suspension points (T / M Mk-54, RSAF, GB, FAB, Harpoons, mines), 2 pilots and 7 operators, search systems: EO and IR detectors, radar and RTR stations, Magnetometer and satellite communication, and so on. Radius = 3700km, 34t fuel, search at 60m and V = 330km / h ...
      1. VALERIK_097
        VALERIK_097 12 December 2015 21: 39 New
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        Yes, I agree, the car is very serious. But it seems that our IL-38 is also undergoing modernization. The conclusion was made from personal observations. They began to fly less, although I could be wrong.
  21. staryivoin
    staryivoin 12 December 2015 15: 35 New
    0
    It was necessary to ask the diapers for something else and for schizophrenia ... just right. and then the hell of what seems
  22. staryivoin
    staryivoin 12 December 2015 15: 49 New
    +3
    Quote from Ros 56
    "After all, if I am right, we need to prepare very seriously for the big kneading."

    Frankly, this will be a very desperate act both on the part of the mattresses and on our part ... If I am not mistaken, our doctrine says that "..nuclear weapons will be used if a threat to Russia's sovereignty and territorial integrity is created" ... With the current course and pace of rearmament of the Russian Armed Forces, which our Sereneysky chose not very many even the most frostbitten heads in the Pentagon are ready to exchange nuclear strikes with Russia. It’s only aunties who want to gain popularity in the upcoming FSA first-person elections and the shell-shocked Uncle McCain sing about preventive strikes .. All the other sober-minded Americans clearly understand what will happen ...
    Dreaming about defeating Russia is still very premature ... Well, judging by the effectiveness of the Russian air forces in the SAR, it’s just harmful, you can get a very good response. ROCKETERS (this is me about the Strategic Missile Forces) soon our holiday !!! HOORAY! HOORAY! HOORAY!!! "Voivode", "Stiletto", "Yars" and "Poplar" will not fail and the submariners will also fulfill their task ...
    There were many who wanted to knead Russia, it is unfortunate that there is no study guide in the Zapadl with a reminder of how it all ended
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 12 December 2015 21: 02 New
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      Then I completely agree, they will rake in full, and we will give additives. I saw how the toys are falling on the Kura in the video. where I will not say. But this, so to speak, is an extreme option. And he listened to Shoigu, several years are still needed. But in general, ours are better prepared, if not our gouging would have been very good. When I was at work, I saw work in an aero club, every year we prepared a replenishment for the airborne forces. Almost everyone visited the river.
  23. Stariknv
    Stariknv 12 December 2015 18: 51 New
    0
    They are looking for a black cat in a dark room in a dark room, but who is not there her husband.
  24. moskowit
    moskowit 12 December 2015 19: 37 New
    +1
    Pri .. rki, how do you not understand that we are around, we are everywhere, we are everywhere! And no crap will help you!
    1. berkut9737
      berkut9737 13 December 2015 00: 07 New
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      Pri .. rki, how do you not understand that we are around, we are everywhere, we are everywhere! And no crap will help you!

      Fallon still did not understand in whose hands the fate of his small island lies.
  25. TOR2
    TOR2 12 December 2015 23: 34 New
    +1
    Such devices haunt neither Sweden nor England. Buy more "Poseidons", but it is unlikely that they will scare the "green men". smile