Fallon will ask the Pentagon to speed up the delivery of Britain by Poseidon aircraft because of Russian submarines

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The head of the British Defense Ministry, Michael Fallon, said that he would ask his American counterpart Ashton Carter not to delay the delivery of Boeing P8 Poseidon naval intelligence aircraft, which are necessary for the United Kingdom because of the activity of Russian submarines.



"With regard to the question of accelerating the arrival of P8 ... Yes, there will be discussions, and I hope that this afternoon," the newspaper quoted the minister. Look.

“We need this. The growth of the Russian submarines and the development of the next generation (submarines) means that we need to increase these capabilities as soon as possible, ”he said.

The publication reminds that this year the British Navy asked the Allies three times to assist them in finding a Russian submarine that "may try to carry out espionage activities."
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  1. +6
    12 December 2015 12: 56
    let's burn kerosene
    1. +8
      12 December 2015 12: 59
      Quote: maximNNX
      let's burn kerosene


      “We need this. The growth of the Russian submarines and the development of the next generation (submarines) means that we need to increase these capabilities as soon as possible, ”he said.

      You are not Swedes, choose another topic for yourself, for example, about underground troops you have many abandoned mines and our new V.S. are concentrated there.
      1. +3
        12 December 2015 13: 15
        By the way, it is necessary to tell the small-shirts that Russia is developing underground boats that the USSR began to develop. Let the miners be hired.
        1. +2
          12 December 2015 14: 48
          Quote: Alexander 3
          By the way, it is necessary to tell the small-shirts that Russia is developing underground boats that the USSR began to develop. Let the miners be hired.

          You can simply throw a noise simulator into the ocean from any aircraft, you will need 300 pieces of Poseidon to understand what is happening.
      2. +1
        12 December 2015 13: 44
        Well, what pounced? A nervous breakdown in a person, it is necessary to understand.
        "I do not agree! Primus! Primus! Moscow seamstress! Daddy, a couple more! You are tormenting, like under the tsarist regime! I am wounded on the Kolchak fronts! Abyrvalg! I wish that everything!"
        And that’s all. The hysteria has passed. And again, Royal London English ...
      3. +5
        12 December 2015 13: 48
        Thanks to the INF Treaty, the most important center of evil and Russophobia, namely London, until recently, nothing was in danger. There was a paradox that we could burn the USA, and there was nothing to get the shaved queen with cousins ​​in the Dutch kingdom (the question immediately arose: In whose interests was the INF Treaty). And this did not concern marine carriers, but we know what the fleet of Anglo-Saxons is like. More than 70% of the US ICBMs, in the form of Trident II missiles, are on Ohio boats, plus 4 British Wengards carry them. Moreover, the snowstorm about the Trident's intercontinentality, although it continues to be exaggerated, however, the missile is only of medium range, but it carries a decent amount of warheads. If the United States can understand its presence, however, the British Wengards to shoot from the British Isles in the USSR, the intercontinental is excessive (as a hint, from London to the Urals in a straight line of 3500 km) ...
        Nowadays, the line of the CD completely covers the Buckingham Palace, and Bulava, Yars and Rubezh are able to fly along a quasi-ballistic trajectory, and they have versatility and, in addition to intercontinental distances, they fly closer, blocking the average range, as the American hysteria already took place when they calculated the distance from Kapustin Yar to Sarah Shgan. And Iskander, again, is a strange system and, in addition to its own CR, it can throw a special warhead from Prussia, which is 5-10 times lighter than a half-ton land mine, again to Albion. And there, in addition to the royal family, the "oldest" Masonic lodges of the Scottish charter, by "coincidence", the main offices of TNCs such as BP, Shel, etc. And in the United States, what? Talking monkey in the White House, and Fort Knox with gilded tungsten bars ...
        1. +1
          12 December 2015 14: 02
          "... Thanks to the INF Treaty, the most important center of evil and Russophobia, namely London, until recently, absolutely nothing threatened."
          I think ... You are deeply mistaken ... the opportunity to erase an island has always been
          1. 0
            12 December 2015 14: 14
            Tactical missiles from our borders to Lon Dan did not reach, and ICBMs flew, their range from 5500 km and above. The distance from Kapustin Yar to Sary-Shagan is the same as from the Urals to London, i.e. about 3,5 thousand km. (i.e. the diocese of medium-range missiles from 1000 to 5500 km). We take into account that to instantly destroy PU located in the depths of the territory, which the Urals undoubtedly is, having a reserve of flight time for a guaranteed answer ...
            Now, the development of technology has allowed to increase the range of tactical weapons and transfer ICBMs to a quasi-ballistic trajectory, and even with maneuvering the warhead.
            1. +2
              12 December 2015 18: 33
              And if you measure the distance to London from Vladivostok, you get about 12 km! What, if not an intercontinental missile, "bullet"? Due to its size, Russia has no problem answering its closest "partners"!
            2. 0
              12 December 2015 18: 33
              And if you measure the distance to London from Vladivostok, you get about 12 km! What, if not an intercontinental missile, "bullet"? Due to its size, Russia has no problem answering its closest "partners"!
      4. 0
        12 December 2015 14: 36
        There would be brains, maybe they came up with it! They have all their lives cliche. fool
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    3. +1
      12 December 2015 13: 22
      and what to do our submarines off the coast of Britain? If we can, we can also shoot off the pier from London. And nuclear mines have been standing there for a long time and are not going to reveal themselves, and when we need to arrange a big cannon for shaved, as for espionage activities, then in Britain there is nothing that interests us ...
    4. 0
      12 December 2015 13: 46
      I think he's right, the Poseidons need to be handed over to the RAF as soon as possible. Without tests, without crew training, without inspections from the Air Force headquarters, you can not even install all the equipment! ... Faster, the Russian boats are already underway laughing
    5. +1
      12 December 2015 14: 18
      Fallon will ask the Pentagon to speed up the delivery of Britain by Poseidon aircraft because of Russian submarines
      Yeah, you can ask as much as you like. But if the Americans do not curtail the missile defense, then "Status 6" you will have to snatch the British how to drink.
    6. +2
      12 December 2015 14: 26
      In shame! Royal Navy cannot even provide itself with intelligence. The former metropolis is taken from the former colony.
      1. +2
        12 December 2015 16: 12
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        In shame! Royal Navy cannot even provide itself with intelligence. The former metropolis is taken from the former colony.

        If Britons started talking about our submarines, it means that our sailors do not eat their bread in vain. And next year, according to Shoigu in the report, we will get two more multi-purpose submarines. I hope Kazan (the Yasen project) will be handed over to the fleet.
    7. +2
      12 December 2015 16: 42
      Quote: maximNNX
      let's burn kerosene

      Anti-submarine aircraft are needed primarily to determine the exact location of the enemy submarine, direct attack, and guidance anti-submarine forces.
      Naturally combing the surroundings 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year is impossible, the ocean is large. Even around Britain, thousands of square kilometers of the ocean.
      Anti-submarine aircraft are good in addition to the stationary sonar network. The network detects the submarine and flies anti-submarine plane.
  2. +4
    12 December 2015 12: 59
    S ... t means respected. This should be used to the maximum for the sake of the security of our country. They wouldn’t crap themselves, then they wouldn’t be afraid.
    1. 0
      12 December 2015 13: 19
      several ships go out of repair and modernization, so they are afraid
  3. +2
    12 December 2015 13: 01
    It would be better if they asked for a subnet for catching submarines, otherwise they are teeming there.
  4. +1
    12 December 2015 13: 02
    What a strange news. Patrolmen alone, without a naval component, will do nothing special. Long lasting "cut", I guess. For this, hysteria is raised in the media, they are looking for a black cat in a dark room.
    1. +1
      12 December 2015 13: 26
      As you rightly noted, they are going to search for the Cat)))) Only the real -971 project.
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      2. 0
        12 December 2015 18: 02
        Mountain shooter
        What a strange news. Some patrolmen without a naval component will not enhance anything special. Long lasting "cut", I guess. In order to raise hysteria in the media, they are looking for a black cat in a dark room.

        I have the same impression. The Pentagon is enriched by having its people in the military departments of NATO countries.
  5. +1
    12 December 2015 13: 03
    Shaking with fear, with ... shaved dogs ?! Shake !!!
  6. 0
    12 December 2015 13: 03
    No matter how all these instigations began to act like the Turks - at a distance of several miles from their borders, having discovered a submarine, they did not accuse Russia of a "threat" ... sad
    It would be necessary for Russia to provide submarines with systems that prevent their detection.
  7. +2
    12 December 2015 13: 05
    They would have already started building a new ark to sail away (if that ... request ) to your striped friends ...
    There, overseas, th-o-o-rado calmer ...
    soldier
  8. +1
    12 December 2015 13: 09
    English intelligence and without intelligence are good at inventing and seeing the presence of Russian submarines. And where I can’t imagine shaving, the Scandinavians and the Balts will do it for them ...
  9. +5
    12 December 2015 13: 11
    why buy airplanes? invite the Swedes, they have experience, they will find lol
  10. +2
    12 December 2015 13: 12
    A bit off topic.In the Barents Sea, the Sineva rocket was successfully launched
    The launch was carried out as part of the verification of the reliability of the maritime strategic nuclear deterrent system. On Saturday, the Sineva ballistic missile was successfully launched from the Barents Sea from the Verkhoturye strategic nuclear-powered missile cruiser (SSBN), TASS reports.

    keep it up drinks
    1. +1
      12 December 2015 13: 50
      Why not the topic, even very much the topic. The islands can change their name, well, for example, "Arkhangelsk-67"))) Well, not "New land", but still)))
      I think everyone understood what kind of islands in question.
  11. +2
    12 December 2015 13: 15
    The British Navy asked Allies three times to help them find a Russian submarine

    The Swedes were also looking for our submarine, but alas! hi
  12. +1
    12 December 2015 13: 17
    And our VKS are experiencing a shock drone. I hope this is true.
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  14. 0
    12 December 2015 13: 35
    Always look at this plane I see the Boeing-737. In general, this kind of aircraft is a serious thing in terms of intelligence, it is full of all kinds of equipment, all kinds of powerful scanners, cameras ... It’s capable of exploring large areas of water ... I wonder when such drones will appear?
  15. +3
    12 December 2015 13: 38
    The Britons have always been skilful provocateurs, but now they have shrunk something, degradation is evident! And to hell with them are idiots, they have extremists with might and main, they create all kinds of "Sharia police", and they are all about some kind of Russian nuclear submarines! Yes, they will soon be inside cut out, so they need it!
  16. cap
    +3
    12 December 2015 13: 49
    Speaking at the meeting Atlantic Council in WashingtonFallon confirmed: "We have discussed with Russia the introduction of some measures to prevent any miscalculations or accidents regarding its long-range aviation."
    "Over the past months, we have seen several incidents of incursions into the British flight information area. These aircraft did not respond to requests from air traffic controllers or signals from aircraft that we sent to intercept," - added the head of the British Defense Department. "The attempt - in Crimea and Ukraine - by force change international borders, constant pressure on the Baltic countries, an increase in long-range aviation activity, an increase in submarine activity - all this means that, unfortunately, Russia has become a rival and a threat against which we must take countermeasures. "- said Fallon.
    "We must resist Russian aggression and cannot ignore the threat posed by Russia," he remarked.
    These are our rebooted partners hi
  17. +2
    12 December 2015 13: 59
    I have one question for all forum users. Here I look at all these gayropeytsy with the Americans, at the statements of their representatives of the Foreign Ministries, presidents, prime ministers, and am amazed. The wretchedness of thought, the inability to even express this thought, incompetence, the desire to pass off black as white, turn everything upside down, slander everyone and everyone who only tells the truth. Especially in these talk shows. Support these dill seafarers. As soon as anyone in Europe expresses his own idea that is different from the generally accepted, but rather generally tied up, so everything is necessarily some kind of provocation, initiation of a fabricated case, etc., examples of the sea. Does it seem to me or is it really so ??? After all, if I am right, we need to prepare very seriously for a large kneading.
    1. 0
      12 December 2015 17: 54
      And who said that we are not preparing?
      If you work for a state enterprise, the question would disappear by itself. (Inquiries through 2 ministries) Just like in the old "good" 80s
    2. 0
      12 December 2015 21: 17
      Quote: Ros 56
      Does it seem to me or is it really so ???

      The domestic media pours you what you want to hear, because you will not check the original anyway. The worldview thus formed is supported so that they do not pay attention to the outrage. You are pleased to live in an illusory world created by propaganda, in this world everyone is afraid of Russia and strives to destroy it. In reality, we are NOT interesting to anyone except a handful of politicians, and no one is afraid of us, which Turkey has confirmed recently ....
  18. +1
    12 December 2015 14: 01
    afraid how shaves are afraid
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  20. +1
    12 December 2015 14: 46
    Racing with the devil is called. Delirium tremens tortured our enemies! And how can airplanes help them? America itself does not know how to find us ..
    1. +1
      12 December 2015 20: 39
      Quote: dchegrinec
      And how can airplanes help them?
      Highly mobile, well-armed, have great search engine performance. They spent their Nimrods at rest, so replacement is required. In order not to waste time on R&D, we wanted to follow the path of the Tridents.
      But it did not grow together!
      As reported on November 1, 2015 by the British Sunday Times, the UK government, in preparation for its new Strategic Defense and Security Review (SDSR-2015) planned for publication in November 2015, has decided to abandon from the proposed acquisition of 9 new US base patrol aircraft Boeing P-8A Poseidon, totaling approximately £ 2 billion. The ministers of the British government decided that the P-8A aircraft were "extremely expensive" and spoke in favor of postponing the program for their purchase.
      And this despitethat India bought 8 cars for $ 2,1 billion. and ordered 4 more; Australia 8 + 4 for 4 billion dollars.
      SSHA plans to purchase 117 units to replace 196 P-3 Orion.
      The car is serious: 6 external and 5 internal suspension points (T / M Mk-54, RSAF, GB, FAB, Harpoons, mines), 2 pilots and 7 operators, search systems: EO and IR detectors, radar and RTR stations, Magnetometer and satellite communication, and so on. Radius = 3700km, 34t fuel, search at 60m and V = 330km / h ...
      1. 0
        12 December 2015 21: 39
        Yes, I agree, the car is very serious. But it seems that our IL-38 is also undergoing modernization. The conclusion was made from personal observations. They began to fly less, although I could be wrong.
  21. 0
    12 December 2015 15: 35
    It was necessary to ask the diapers for something else and for schizophrenia ... just right. and then the hell of what seems
  22. +3
    12 December 2015 15: 49
    Quote from Ros 56
    "After all, if I'm right, we need to prepare very seriously for the big kneading."

    To be honest, this will be a very desperate act both on the part of the mattress makers and on our part ... If I am not mistaken, our doctrine says that "... nuclear weapons will be used if a threat to Russia's sovereignty and territorial integrity is created" ... Given the current course and pace of rearmament of the RF Armed Forces, which our Serene Highness chose, not very many, even the most frostbitten heads in the Pentagon are ready to exchange nuclear strikes with Russia. These are just aunts who are striving to gain popularity in the upcoming elections of the first person of the FSA and the shell-shocked Uncle McCain sing about preventive strikes .. All other sober-minded Americans clearly understand what will happen ...
    It is still too early to dream about the defeat of Russia ... Well, judging by the effectiveness of the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the SAR, it is simply harmful to receive a return response. ROCKETERS (I'm talking about the Strategic Missile Forces) our holiday is coming soon !!! HOORAY! HOORAY! HOORAY!!! "Voivoda", "Stilet", "Yars" and "Topol" will not let you down, and the submariners will also fulfill their task ...
    There were many who wanted to knead Russia, it is unfortunate that there is no study guide in the Zapadl with a reminder of how it all ended
    1. 0
      12 December 2015 21: 02
      Then I completely agree, they will rake in full, and we will give additives. I saw how the toys are falling on the Kura in the video. where I will not say. But this, so to speak, is an extreme option. And he listened to Shoigu, several years are still needed. But in general, ours are better prepared, if not our gouging would have been very good. When I was at work, I saw work in an aero club, every year we prepared a replenishment for the airborne forces. Almost everyone visited the river.
  23. 0
    12 December 2015 18: 51
    They are looking for a black cat in a dark room in a dark room, but who is not there her husband.
  24. +1
    12 December 2015 19: 37
    Pri .. rki, how do you not understand that we are around, we are everywhere, we are everywhere! And no crap will help you!
    1. 0
      13 December 2015 00: 07
      Pri .. rki, how do you not understand that we are around, we are everywhere, we are everywhere! And no crap will help you!

      Fallon still did not understand in whose hands the fate of his small island lies.
  25. +1
    12 December 2015 23: 34
    Such devices haunt neither Sweden nor England. Buy more "Poseidons", but you are unlikely to scare the "green men" with them. smile