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Observers: Ukrainian depots for weapons are empty

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The OSCE observation mission recorded the absence of designated and previously registered armaments of the Ukrainian army in storage areas, reports RIA News message of the OSCE SMM.


Observers: Ukrainian depots for weapons are empty


“On December 9, the Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) again visited the place of permanent storage of weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine where all previously registered weapons were missing”,
the report says.

Outside this place, observers “recorded a convoy of seven tanks (T-72). ”

The report states that on the territory of the LPR “in the places of permanent storage of weapons, the SMM noted the presence of all previously registered weapons”.

The agency recalls that in September in Minsk an agreement was reached on withdrawal from the dividing line weapons caliber less than 100 mm and tanks. This process is completed on November 12.
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  1. DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 12 December 2015 11: 01 New
    38
    Oh miracle !!! the patient received his sight.
    1. forest park 86
      forest park 86 12 December 2015 11: 05 New
      24
      Well, observers have watched what's next?
      1. svp67
        svp67 12 December 2015 11: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: 86 Forest Park
        Well, observers have watched what's next?

        They are simply OBSERVERS, by the way, in this report there is also such an item:
        In Kharkov, the SMM saw damage to the glass window of a Roshen confectionery store (owned by President Poroshenko) and a small funnel near the sidewalk. According to the SMM, these injuries were caused by a shock device. A representative of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, who was present at the scene of the incident, told the SMM that an RGD-5 hand grenade had been thrown into the store early in the morning. Later, another representative of the Ministry of Internal Affairs told the SMM that the RGD-5 hand grenade was found in a parking lot near the Kharkov district court, where a high-profile case on crimes against national security and public order was examined (Articles 109 and 294 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine, respectively). According to this representative of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the courtroom was evacuated, and law enforcement officers took appropriate measures in connection with the find.

        At the Lugansk People's Republic (“LPR”) permanent storage warehouse for weapons, the SMM reports the presence of all weapons previously registered there.
        1. WKS
          WKS 12 December 2015 12: 00 New
          +8
          Quote: svp67
          At the Lugansk People's Republic (“LPR”) permanent storage warehouse for weapons, the SMM reports the presence of all weapons previously registered there.

          So maybe this equipment has moved here? Still, in Ukraine it is difficult with money ...
          1. cniza
            cniza 12 December 2015 12: 55 New
            +4
            Quote: wks
            Quote: svp67
            At the Lugansk People's Republic (“LPR”) permanent storage warehouse for weapons, the SMM reports the presence of all weapons previously registered there.

            So maybe this equipment has moved here? Still, in Ukraine it is difficult with money ...



            Part of it just moved, and so are Natsik prepared, prepared.
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          3. volodimer
            volodimer 13 December 2015 13: 22 New
            0
            If so, then no problem! I would not want to get only shells for the new year, separately from the trunks.
        2. Bird the Talker
          Bird the Talker 12 December 2015 20: 27 New
          0
          those. not a grenade from LPR?
      2. figwam
        figwam 12 December 2015 11: 45 New
        +6
        Quote: 86 Forest Park
        Well, observers have watched what's next?

        I think this time we need to beat the headquarters, otherwise this story will go on forever.
      3. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 12 December 2015 12: 18 New
        +9
        Found silence around. Now let’s imagine how the howling of a wolf pack would rise if it were done by the DNI and LC. It is time for Donetsk to independently solve the problem of where the armed forces of the republics should be located, since a surprise attack can be expected from the Nazis, which can lead to unpredictable consequences. The OSCE does not decide anything; the USA decides.
      4. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 12 December 2015 13: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: 86 Forest Park
        what's next?

        Well, it's not hard to guess. Next will be a treacherous and completely unexpected stab in the back from "our Kiev friends." Urya-patriots will begin to plan a nuclear attack on Kiev, Putin will menacingly stay on TV. As a result, they will impose an embargo on seeds from next year.
        1. go21zd45few
          go21zd45few 12 December 2015 14: 11 New
          +2
          And at the time when the Nazis will destroy the Russians on the Don bass, we them
          Ukrainians, we will save from the cold by supplying gas and coal. The actions of the Russian leadership do not lend themselves to any criticism. This is equivalent to the fact that during the German attack on the USSR, the USSR would continue to supply strategic raw materials to the aggressor. Stop shedding tears for the poor Ukrainian people who spit in our faces.
          1. unsinkable
            unsinkable 12 December 2015 16: 58 New
            0
            Quote: go21zd45few
            do not give in to any criticism.

            The actions of the leadership can be criticized. Criticize as much as you like, it makes them neither hot nor cold. But mind-wisdom and elementary logic do not lend themselves in any way. hi what
      5. from
        from punk 12 December 2015 17: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: 86 Forest Park
        Well, observers have watched what's next?

        And then it’s all the same. The Turks tore off part of Iraq, Ukraine has equipment in place. All the rules. Russia is the aggressor !!!
      6. svd-xnumx
        svd-xnumx 12 December 2015 19: 58 New
        +1
        Well, observers have watched what's next?
        Something, they will impose sanctions on Russia! Everyone got this circus, and all because of Putin's indecision last spring, the army at the border was waiting for an order.
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 12 December 2015 11: 06 New
      +8
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Oh miracle !!! the patient received his sight.


      misunderstood who is draining ... belay

      statements, statements, we await the reaction of the general people ...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 12 December 2015 11: 10 New
        +9
        Quote: vorobey
        statements, statements, we await the reaction of the general people ...

        I am tormented by vague doubts that there will be any reaction ...
      2. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 11: 10 New
        10
        Sold! Waiting for the "Javelins" .. And what is surprising here? bully
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 12 December 2015 11: 24 New
          +5
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          Sold!


          E. There is no simple physics here, if somewhere has disappeared, it means that it has arrived ... since this technique (if sold) is not fixed even in the places of the DNI LPR’s deployment, then you must look for it either

          and. in Africa
          b. somewhere in the forest belts near Donetsk repeat

          There are no more options ... request
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 12 December 2015 18: 16 New
            +1
            c. Scrap metal receiving station.
            Teleportation
            D. Annihilation.
            But most likely, still point b.
      3. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 12 December 2015 11: 13 New
        32
        A bit of sarcasm.
      4. askort154
        askort154 12 December 2015 11: 25 New
        0
        vorobey .... statements statements awaiting the reaction of the general people ...


        "universal people" and all skunks, would have stood on their ears, if it had been the other way around.
      5. Lelek
        Lelek 12 December 2015 20: 11 New
        0
        Quote: vorobey
        statements, statements, we await the reaction of the general people ...


        Observers observe, “guarantors” guarantee and project, what else sanctions should be imposed on Russia, and the “mind, honor and conscience” of the former Ukraine continues the pre-war escalation to the mute of the State Department.
        Bad it all ends.
    3. svp67
      svp67 12 December 2015 11: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Oh miracle !!! the patient received his sight.

      Who wants to, read the report for this day.
      http://www.osce.org/ru/ukraine-smm/209106
      There is a complete opinion that the OSCE is beginning to accuse both sides of escalating the situation.
      In the territory controlled by the "Donetsk People's Republic" ("DPR") Zaitsevo (50 km north-east of Donetsk) the SMM once again visited a school located about 1,5 km south-west of the place where a woman died on December 4 from gunshot wounds (see Daily Reports December 7 and December 8, 2015 ) The SMM saw the presence of well-armed members of the “DPR” inside the school building; by all indications, they were housed in this school. Also inside the SMM, I saw an ammunition depot of various calibers and small arms and light weapons. The school was connected to the neighboring DPR checkpoint with a 1,5m deep trench. There were no teachers or students at the school. The SMM did not see textbooks, visual aids or any other signs that the school was used for educational purposes. Local residents told the SMM that the school was not working.
    4. revnagan
      revnagan 12 December 2015 18: 03 New
      0
      "Miracle" will be when all arms depots LDNR APU covers with one blow am Is it really not clear where everything is going? What does the Donbass expect? June 22, 1941?
  2. sober
    sober 12 December 2015 11: 01 New
    12
    That's because PIGS are unpleasant !!!!!!!!
  3. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 12 December 2015 11: 05 New
    +7
    Coming soon. And then the Murakans will stir up something in the Caucasus. Between Azerbaijan and Armenia. What would we have three fronts. And there, the CSTO will arrange troubles with the Taliban.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 12 December 2015 11: 09 New
      +4
      Well, then we will urgently need to give a couple of pieces of the DPRK "Satan" missiles.
    2. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 11: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: armored optimist
      Coming soon. And then the Murakans will stir up something in the Caucasus. Between Azerbaijan and Armenia. What would we have three fronts. And there, the CSTO will arrange troubles with the Taliban.

      Everything goes to this ...! But we, too, are not "basted together" ... hi Learned, good teachers were ...
  4. sl22277
    sl22277 12 December 2015 11: 06 New
    +1
    Although they saw it .., of course, I doubt that they saw the light to the end ... Another provocation of Dill. I think this is due to attracting attention for economic and military assistance. Apparently with the events in Syria, dill faded into the background, this is how it reminds of itself.
  5. venaya
    venaya 12 December 2015 11: 06 New
    +6
    Well, are empty, and what - someone is surprised?

    on the territory of the LPR "in the places of permanent storage of weapons SMM noted the presence of all previously registered weapons"

    The difference regarding the implementation of the Minsk agreements is clear, all issues disappear automatically.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 12 December 2015 11: 11 New
      10
      Quote: venaya
      Well, are empty, and what - someone is surprised?

      on the territory of the LPR "in the places of permanent storage of weapons SMM noted the presence of all previously registered weapons"
      The difference with respect to the implementation of the agreements is clear, the questions disappear automatically.

      We don’t, FSA isn’t either, EU is not, only OSCE observers are surprised.
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas 12 December 2015 15: 07 New
      0
      Quote: venaya
      Well, are empty, and what - someone is surprised?
      Not only surprised, but also outraged: "the unarmed Outskirts with their bare hands is fighting against the aggressor with the atomic bomb!" The conclusion is predictable: "We must at least help them with arms."
  6. Teberii
    Teberii 12 December 2015 11: 09 New
    +1
    Wizards of the OS country, not otherwise.
  7. Wiruz
    Wiruz 12 December 2015 11: 13 New
    0
    Well done APU! All weapons have already been pushed to the militias! Warrant officers rule! laughing
  8. Erg
    Erg 12 December 2015 11: 15 New
    +1
    OSCE are dealing with nonsense. Why spend time and gas on "monitoring"? Could you ask us wassat
  9. vic58
    vic58 12 December 2015 11: 19 New
    +1
    Like in DMB:
    - See the gopher?
    - ...

    - Me neither. And he is there!
    This is stealth technology in Ukrainian)))
  10. moskowit
    moskowit 12 December 2015 11: 19 New
    +2
    What a news!!! Look, the OSCE discovered empty warehouses! It’s clear when they were watching. They in the DPR counted everything to the last bullet, counted everything and entered it into laced books ... But they were not ordered to deal with Ukraine, and they did not want and do not want to ...
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 12 December 2015 12: 26 New
      0
      In the Communist Party, it seems like another year, the article was that these "observers" did not crawl out of taverns (according to the assurances of local residents) and did nothing at all.
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  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 12 December 2015 11: 19 New
    +2
    You look, discovered! And I think who shoots there, on the demarcation line. It's time to dill a couple more ammunition depots of ... preventive. Well, the fuel and lubricant warehouses too, that ... So that there would be no thoughts.
    Since there is nothing.
  12. iv-nord
    iv-nord 12 December 2015 11: 21 New
    0
    In the event of the resumption of active hostilities of the republic, the LPR and the DPR will, of course, fight off, but with what losses, if the equipment is allotted. Guarantors of agreements in Minsk i.e. Germany and France will be ashamed, but they are all on the drum, not in their territory war. Our people will die.
  13. Chatlanen
    Chatlanen 12 December 2015 11: 24 New
    +1
    Well, soon the meeting on sanctions - it is necessary to throw up the "arguments"!
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 December 2015 11: 28 New
    0
    where all previously registered weapons were missing

    What a news. Ukraine has not complied with Minsk, and is not going to comply with it. And who else but the OSCE observers should know what the Ukrainian government wants.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 12 December 2015 20: 20 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Ukraine has not complied with Minsk, and is not going to comply with it.


      A little off topic, but the other day I came across the SBU Opus:
      (cry.)
  15. pvv113
    pvv113 12 December 2015 11: 40 New
    0
    OSCE observation mission recorded

    Is it clear? These observers were regularly told about the provocations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but they did not see anything, but then they suddenly noticed!
  16. foxic
    foxic 12 December 2015 12: 00 New
    0
    What is the duration of the Minsk2 agreement? It seems until the end of the year .... If so, then this is the answer .... from the beginning of the year a new provocation, and all over again ..... Moreover, in February the elections, if the dill of LDNR will not be demolished - the republics will internationally recognized. Hang on guys .... and don't negotiate with anyone else.
  17. tinibar
    tinibar 12 December 2015 12: 03 New
    0
    Quote: sober
    That's because PIGS are unpleasant !!!!!!!!

    Pigs are offended when these INHUMPS are compared with them ...
  18. iouris
    iouris 12 December 2015 12: 12 New
    0
    Someone very smart said: if a fight is inevitable, you have to beat first.
  19. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 12 December 2015 12: 16 New
    +1
    The situation is brewing. I suppose this is for the payment of debt by Kraina and the upcoming default, as an argument for non-payment of the war with the borrower. I think so they will present it to the general people.
  20. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 12 December 2015 12: 19 New
    0
    What are we waiting for? Introduce "instructors" from Russia at the invitation of the LPR, DPR. Why is it possible for amers, but not for us? If the political wind in Ukraine does not change, be trouble. We must brazenly, as the Americans supply weapons, "non-lethal", "non-lethal" ammunition.
  21. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 12 December 2015 12: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    What are we waiting for? Introduce "instructors" from Russia at the invitation of the LPR, DPR. Why is it possible for amers, but not for us? If the political wind in Ukraine does not change, be trouble. We must brazenly, as the Americans supply weapons, "non-lethal", "non-lethal" ammunition.

    These republics are not recognized by the world community, therefore, instructors will be like aggressors against a legitimate government, and the amers have a different situation there, the unrecognized Kurdish community is fighting global evil (terrorism). Therefore, probably Churkin at the UN raises the question of the legitimacy of Poroshenko’s dictatorship.
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 12 December 2015 14: 10 New
      0
      Our international diplomats get a good salary. It is their business how to disguise our support, without which the LPR and the DPR will simply be swept away. Americans, without any questions, do not care about international law, and indeed do not care about everything at all. If we also chew snot, we find ourselves in a position of cancer, like Ukraine.
  22. Stinger
    Stinger 12 December 2015 12: 40 New
    0
    I came, tebe dumb.
    Pimanula, pidvela.
  23. anfil
    anfil 12 December 2015 12: 45 New
    +1
    It seems to me that 404 will start fighting again, in order to try to conquer the coal they need.

    “Yesterday it became known about the resumption of coal supplies to Ukraine from Russia, as well as the fact that the DPR is ready to supply up to 15 thousand tons of T grade coal per day to Ukraine.
    In fact, as they say, everything is completely wrong, ”writes gentlemanUSSR blogger:

    - Regarding the fact that from Ukraine they gave light to the Crimea. In fact, they did not. So far, energy has gone only along one line to the Titan plant and Krasnoperekopsk. This Ukraine did not give light to Crimea, but to its two districts in the Kherson region, which are powered by a substation located in the Crimea. Only Krasnoperekopsk and Armyansk can be powered from this line in the Crimea, nothing more. So in the rest of the Crimea there is light or of its own generation (fortunately, mobile GTS was brought in) and the energy bridge coming from Russia on the first stage.

    But the response of Russia and LDNR was surprisingly adequate. Yes, coal supplies have resumed. That's just what kind of coal, it, you know, is different.

    In short, Russia has resumed supplies of coking coal to Ukraine. This is coal used in the technological cycle of metallurgical and chemical enterprises. Of course, it is possible to drown them, only a little expensive and only in the boiler room, and the power plants are not designed for such fuel.

    DNR acted no less interesting. They promise to deliver "to 15 thousand tons ”of coal per month of grade“ T ”, i.e. skinny. It is the T brand coal that Ukraine also receives from South Africa.
    Permanent blocks operate on lean coals in Ukraine. This is, first of all, Zmievskaya and Tripolskaya TPP. And for the normal operation of the energy system, the work of shunting units, which turn on at peak consumption and turn off during downturns, is needed more than ever. And they work on anthracite, but there is nowhere to take it, which makes the energy system of Ukraine completely dependent on energy flows from Russia. Well, or by fan cuts to try to solve the problem, at peak consumption, turning off the light to the population.

    In short, as Ukraine gave light to the Crimea, such coal was supplied to it. And so everything is fine - the coal is supplied.
  24. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 12 December 2015 12: 53 New
    +2
    One thing is for sure, "We are on the verge of a grandiose rascal"
    1. iouris
      iouris 12 December 2015 13: 24 New
      0
      What do we want?
      1. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 12 December 2015 15: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: iouris
        What do we want?

        The answer so far is this! drinks
  25. Belarus
    Belarus 12 December 2015 13: 39 New
    +1
    Where are the sanctions or questions at least to the Ukrainian side of the OSCE? I ask this question and I myself know this answer - somewhere there (to put it mildly) or in the anus.
    Do you know what the first sign of the beginning of a new offensive of punitive in the Donbass? This is when the OSCE will make its feet from its occupied places in the LPR. I am sure that the OSCE is in fact condoning the preparations for an offensive of the Armed Forces in the Donbas and this is why:- The village of Pavlopol was a demilitarized or neutral zone. Nevertheless, there are parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in addition, according to intelligence from the DPR, it is known about the accumulation of Ukrainian equipment near the village. Is this a violation of the Minsk agreements?

    - Minsk agreements do not imply the creation of neutral or “gray” zones. The Minsk agreements imply a line of demarcation connecting certain points. The movement of military equipment in these territories as a whole is not prohibited, unless the contact line itself, the so-called “Minsk line”, is crossed by equipment. Or if it’s not about heavy weapons: tanks, artillery and mortars in the security zone.

    link to article and link to video:
    article: http: //warfiles.ru/show-102747-aleksandr-hug-zahvat-pavlopolya-vsu-ne-narushaet

    -minskie-soglasheniya.html

    I don’t understand what the leadership of LDNR is waiting for and what it thinks, what ????????????
  26. Skym
    Skym 12 December 2015 14: 00 New
    0
    Has the OSCE been on the mend?
  27. gg.na
    gg.na 12 December 2015 15: 02 New
    0
    Looks like little eyes opened! bully blind deaf and dumb!
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 12 December 2015 18: 30 New
      +1
      My opinion is that ... Most likely it will really begin. If the OSCE, something "noticed", then we need an excuse for the future ... That's when there will be a trial on the fact of war crimes, they will honestly round their eyes will testify ... "And we warned! Equipment from storage has disappeared! "
      But a tank, for example, can even be found in the wake. If it fell under its own power. And in the end, this is not the territory of Siberia by area. If you wish, you can find it in half an hour. The question is different ... Is there a desire?
  28. Altona
    Altona 12 December 2015 16: 16 New
    0
    Ukraine brings weapons to the line of contact, and sanctions are imposed on Russia ... Where is the logic, Europe?
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 12 December 2015 17: 42 New
      +1
      What is the logic of the occupied with a capped consciousness?
  29. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 12 December 2015 16: 17 New
    +1
    Biden will call and say: bomb, why don’t you bomb Poroshenko? And these half-men will have to build cobble-throwers!
  30. 4ekist
    4ekist 12 December 2015 19: 04 New
    0
    Quote: 86 Forest Park
    Well, observers have watched what's next?

    But what about the Minsk talks, where is this bloc ... Kuchma. Well, if the maydanutye want to fight, they will “fight” and go straight to heaven. Let's see what they do.
  31. avia1991
    avia1991 12 December 2015 19: 40 New
    0
    Observers: Ukrainian depots for weapons are empty
    And WHAT ?! belay Did it surprise you much? wassat Actually, this descent did not happen yesterday - did you guys just tear your eyes off? .. Damn, how do you work? what
  32. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 13 December 2015 19: 04 New
    0
    This zhzhzhzh for a reason ... what