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In the West, decided to count how much Russia spends on the Syrian operation

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Information Agency Bloomberg decided to publish the data of the so-called Royal United Institute of Defense Studies. Apparently, the royal institute is very fond of counting other people's money, and then presents its own calculations regarding how much Russia was spending on the operation in Syria this year, and how much it will spend next.


In the West, decided to count how much Russia spends on the Syrian operation


Representatives of the London Institute report that Russia initially spent about 4 million dollars daily on conducting an antiterrorist operation in Syria, and since mid-November the amount of expenses has doubled and, accordingly, has reached a value of 8 million dollars. As a result, the royal institute reports, on an annualized basis, Russia may spend a billion dollars on a Syrian operation 3.

Recall that the day before, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev stated that the Russian Defense Ministry did not apply for additional funds. Earlier, it was stated that the costs of the operation in Syria fit into the expenses of the country's main defense department, and, for example, one day of a Syrian counter-terrorist operation costs the budget twice as much as one day of military exercises. At the same time, however, the Ministry of Defense did not specify what scale exercises are meant.

When counting the money that Russia spends on an operation in Syria, Western experts for some reason do not ask how Russia can help in the fight against terrorism, but present information in such a way as if they calculate how long the Russian potentials run out from the start of such an operation defense budget ...
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    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 11 December 2015 18: 57 New
      +5
      As a result, the Royal Institute reports that on an annualized basis, Russia could spend $ 1 billion on the Syrian operation 3.

      Or maybe they decided to throw their money ?! wink A joke!

      We agree!
      1. Uran
        Uran 11 December 2015 19: 16 New
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        The Russian Armed Forces in the near future can get the first prototypes of the latest S-500 anti-aircraft missile system,
        1. Tor5
          Tor5 11 December 2015 19: 24 New
          +7
          This is news, so news! Worth it! Do not count money in someone else's pocket.
          1. MIKHALYCH1
            MIKHALYCH1 11 December 2015 19: 37 New
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            Counting begins ... hi Потом начнут валить экономику и как "предсказывал Ходорковский и Березовский ,Троцкий и т.д.)Революция в России ...Мечта их всех!хе хе..А потом , грабит, грабить, и грабить...Шаблон стандартный! hi But all this does not suit Russia ... And we will take everything and punish us!
            1. cniza
              cniza 11 December 2015 20: 01 New
              +6
              Let them consider health, if you subtract the costs of testing, disposal and training, it’s just that on the surface, then the amounts will be of a different nature and of course it is beneficial to us.
              1. Reserve officer
                Reserve officer 11 December 2015 20: 38 New
                +8
                Or can they evaluate the effectiveness of cash? Compare finances, dates, number of departures and the number of destroyed goals of the vaunted coalition and our aviation.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 11 December 2015 20: 48 New
                  -9
                  Quote: Stock Officer
                  Or can they evaluate the effectiveness of cash? Compare finances, dates, number of departures and the number of destroyed goals of the vaunted coalition and our aviation.

                  But why?
                  1. GSH-18
                    GSH-18 11 December 2015 21: 43 New
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                    Quote: atalef
                    Or can they evaluate the effectiveness of cash? Compare finances, dates, number of departures and the number of destroyed goals of the vaunted coalition and our aviation.

                    But why?

                    Really, why? This is fawn. The real proof of your own sludge. lol
                    So it is better to consider other people's money in your favor.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 11 December 2015 21: 46 New
                      -6
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      Quote: atalef
                      Or can they evaluate the effectiveness of cash? Compare finances, dates, number of departures and the number of destroyed goals of the vaunted coalition and our aviation.

                      But why?

                      Really, why? This is fawn. The real proof of your own sludge. lol
                      So it is better to consider other people's money in your favor.

                      Well, Bloomberg does not consider it in anyone's favor - it's just Inform.agency.
                      Then we can talk about ratings only by the final result.
                      hi
                      1. GSH-18
                        GSH-18 11 December 2015 22: 00 New
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                        Quote: atalef
                        Well, Bloomberg does not consider it in anyone's favor - it's just Inform.agency.

                        Hehe, I would have your confidence ..
                        Quote: atalef
                        Then we can talk about ratings only by the end result.

                        Do you know what the final result will be?
                        Tady in a nutshell: Already, Assad’s army has liberated more than 200 settlements since the beginning of the Russian Aerospace Forces operation and continues to do this every day. When the victory (liberation of the territory of Syria) is close, there will be no end to those who want to help. Well, in order to get into Syria. And in a year all amerosmi will blow about the next victory of amerodemocracy over world evil. The same scenario was tested in World War II. In order not to let the USSR show who is the boss in Europe. For the sake of justice, it is worth noting that we already did not need their military assistance at this stage. Our warriors had to be rescued from the Nazis, so that they would not be dropped back into the sea! Helpers ..
                      2. Mister22408
                        Mister22408 11 December 2015 22: 50 New
                        -19
                        Таки Вы не знаете за Вторую мировую? Там вся еуроппа сидит в платежах на полпроцента, кои в континент к "феллерам" уходила ранее.Если Вы настоящий индеец - Вам нечего боятся :-).Но юань Вам не повредит...:-)
                        Так, блин, на этом форуме слова - "СЕМЬЯ", "БАЗЕЛЬ"," Дибилы из семьи французов, которые пугают острова" считаются запретными... Даже в лучших домах ЛАНДОНА часы и минуты не продают...
                      3. atalef
                        atalef 11 December 2015 23: 29 New
                        -18
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Do you know what the final result will be?

                        I know Assad will leave
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Tady in a nutshell: Already, Assad’s army has liberated more than 200 settlements since the beginning of the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces and continues to do so every day

                        Does Shoigu know about this?
                        Министр обороны Российской Федерации Сергей Шойгу заявил 11 декабря, что террористическая организация "Исламское государство" в последнее время усилилось, и сегодня контролирует примерно 70% территории Сирии.

                        Sergei Shoigu said this during a meeting of the extended board of the Ministry of Defense with the participation of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

                        I think you hear the name F. Klintsevich for the first time, and you certainly won’t take it to the liberals
                        "Операция продлится как минимум год, - сказал Франц Клинцевич, заместитель председателя комитета по обороне в верхней палате парламента. - Я большего ожидал от сирийской армии".

                        Quote: GSH-18
                        And in a year all amerosmi will blow about the next victory of amerodemocracy over world evil. The same scenario was tested in World War II. In order not to let the USSR show who is the boss in Europe.

                        Well, yes, deGoll, beloved in Russia. After spending the whole war in London, he later appeared in Paris with 1500 soldiers and received the laurels of the country of the winner in the Second World War and a place in the Soviet Union. laughing
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        For the sake of justice, it is worth noting that we didn’t need their military assistance at this stage already

                        Well, do not - so do not. request
                        It’s all the same to me
                      4. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 11 December 2015 23: 42 New
                        +9
                        Quote: atalef
                        I know Assad will leave

                        Assad in Syria loves and respects the people and if they do not kill him (and this is possible) he will be elected more than once.
                      5. atalef
                        atalef 11 December 2015 23: 48 New
                        -21
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Assad in Syria loves and respects the people and if they do not kill him

                        Strangled in a hug laughing
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        he will be elected more than once.

                        Yes . Who would doubt that.
                    2. GSH-18
                      GSH-18 12 December 2015 00: 02 New
                      10
                      Quote: atalef
                      I know Assad will leave

                      Too lazy to comment on everything. I will only comment on this, and I think this will be quite enough.
                      Assad will not go anywhere until WE let him go. I think it’s worth all of our Western partners to cut themselves on the nose.
                    3. Voltsky
                      Voltsky 12 December 2015 01: 09 New
                      +8
                      Когда Россия закончит, Ассад автоматически станет победителем в 'сирийской отечественной войне', так что он не просто будет избран президентом Сирии, ему ещё и памятник поставят при жизни.
                    4. alexng
                      alexng 12 December 2015 01: 40 New
                      +4
                      Until the demolition of the head of the financial and militaristic top, the chaos on Earth will continue. It is necessary for these creatures to tear off something, so that in general such things will never be born again and then our Planet will calmly breathe, and Peace will reign. Zadolbal already these villains of all the inhabitants of the Earth. It’s time to end these ... mattes, ... bergas and other soulless substance, and not drag on for a long time. It is worth chopping off the head of this scum, then all the rest of their litter will scatter and hammer in holes to die there, and the frenzied thugs will bang each other. ISIS (Daesh) will not last after this week.
              2. GSH-18
                GSH-18 11 December 2015 22: 03 New
                +4
                Dear atalef, are you aware that your Air Force can take part in of joint with the Russian Aerospace Forces combat strikes on Daesh in Syria? Today, the news was. Our warriors agree ...
              3. atalef
                atalef 11 December 2015 23: 34 New
                -6
                Quote: GSH-18
                Dear atalef, do you know that your Air Force can take part in joint combat strikes against the Daesh in Syria with the Russian Air Force?

                Nope, I don’t think so.
                Why do we need this?
                You vseravno all win, no help in the Second World War. and now even more so. Then you can still say that we cling to the great victory.
                No, all your laurels.
                We will calmly continue cooperation in the same volume. Moreover, the General Staff of the Russian Federation is quite pleased with this
              4. padded jacket
                padded jacket 11 December 2015 23: 49 New
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                Quote: atalef
                You will defeat all the people, you didn’t need help

                And that Israel fought in the Second World War? lol
                The storyteller you atalef you yourself raised these terrorugs and sent to Syria with an eye on Russia.
                Quote: atalef
                We will calmly continue cooperation in the same volume.

                With terrorists smile
                Israel treats Assad's opponents
                The Israeli armed forces are in constant contact with Syrian militants who are fighting against the regime of Bashar al-Assad. This is stated in the UN report, cited by the Israeli publication Haaretz. Some of these militants may be associated with Islamic State terrorists. According to the Haaretz newspaper, contact information between IDF officers and Syrian Free Army militants is published in a report by UN observers who monitor the situation in the Golan Heights. Observers testify that contacts with representatives of the armed Syrian opposition at the border began last year after the radicalization of the conflict in Syria.
                http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2014/12/07_a_6332201.shtml
              5. atalef
                atalef 12 December 2015 00: 26 New
                -15
                Quote: quilted jacket
                And that Israel fought in the Second World War?

                Not . it's about his other post that the USSR did not need help from anyone. to win the Second World War

                Quote: quilted jacket
                The storyteller you atalef you yourself raised these terrorugs and sent to Syria with an eye on Russia.

                Strange, you know that. but the General Staff of the Russian Federation - probably not.
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Israel treats Assad's opponents
                Israeli forces are in constant contact with Syrian militants fighting the Bashar al-Assad regime

                We also taught Russia this.
                ЧAsti armed Syrian opposition take part in attack on Islamist militants

                This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin, speaking at an expanded meeting of the board of the Ministry of Defense.

                "Особо отмечу, что работа нашей авиагруппы способствует объединению усилий как правительственных войск, так и "Свободной сирийской армии". Сейчас несколько ее частей общей численностью свыше 5 тысяч человек так же, как и регулярные войска, ведут наступательные действия против террористов в провинциях Хомс, Хама, Алепа и Рака", — сказал российский президент.

                and what remains to be done. Iranians are running
                Иран свертывает свое участие в войне с боевиками группировки "Исламское государство" в Сирии. Об этом сообщает агентство Bloobmerg со ссылкой на американские военные источники.

                По их словам, иранские власти резко сократили численность своих элитных подразделений в Сирии после серьезных потерь в живой силе, понесенных в боях в окрестностях Идлиба. Как отмечается, только на этой неделе иранцы потеряли нескольких высокопоставленных командиров "Стражей исламской революции", а в ноябре под Алеппо надолго был выведен из строя командир спецподразделения "Эль-Кудс" ("Иерусалим"), генерал-майор Касем Сулеймани.

                Quote: quilted jacket
                Observers testify that contacts with representatives of the armed Syrian opposition at the border began last year after the radicalization of the conflict in Syria.

                You see, we cantacted9 2 years ago), and the Russian aerospace forces are already fighting with the SSA.
                Foresight laughing
              6. padded jacket
                padded jacket 12 December 2015 00: 54 New
                +5
                Quote: atalef
                Not . it's about his other post that the USSR did not need help from anyone. to win the Second World War

                Clearly, the comments are arranged, so sometimes it’s hard to figure out who said what.
                Quote: atalef
                Strange, you know that. but the General Staff of the Russian Federation - probably not.

                They know this perfectly well only while there were no commands to offend Israel.
                Quote: atalef
                We also taught Russia this.

                What was the purpose of treating terrorists from Al-Nusra’s al-Qaeda branch of Israel?
                we are forced to cooperate with the so-called SSA and even then not all.
                Quote: atalef
                Iranians are running

                But apart from references to Bloomberg, is there nothing?
                Quote: atalef
                You see, we cantacted9 2 years ago), and the Russian aerospace forces are already fighting with the SSA.

                You are in contact with Al-Nusra and she is not like the CCA.
                Although the SSA also respects you very much smile
                Syrian opposition congratulated Israelis on Independence Day
                Оппозиционная организация "Свободный народ Сирии" направила в четверг израильскому руководству телеграмму, в котором выразила надежду отметить следующий День независимости в израильском посольстве в Дамаске.
                http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/04/23/siriyskaya-oppoziciya-pozdravil
                a-izrailtyan-s-dnem-nezavisimosti /
              7. atalef
                atalef 12 December 2015 01: 03 New
                -7
                Quote: quilted jacket
                They know this perfectly well only while there were no commands to offend Israel.

                Well, when it will be - then we'll talk laughing
                In the meantime, we are Hezbollah again. well, bombing. T nothing the Russian Aerospace Forces help us a lot in this
                Quote: quilted jacket
                What was the purpose of treating terrorists from Al-Nusra’s al-Qaeda branch of Israel?
                we are forced to cooperate with the so-called SSA and even then not all.

                And we recruited them and they are now in the SSA.
                Why is it necessary? Hezbollah and the IRGC fled crying , of course, for lack of stamp - we write in simple

                Quote: quilted jacket
                But apart from references to Bloomberg, is there nothing?

                Do you have anything to refute?
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Although the SSA also respects you very much
                Syrian opposition congratulated Israelis on Independence Day

                Well, right, the Russian Federation respects it the same. Yes, Putin said this. Assad certainly doesn’t like it, but what can you do - if you can’t do anything yourself
                Quote: quilted jacket
                in which she hoped to celebrate the next Independence Day at the Israeli embassy in Damascus.

                Yes, our embassy will not be far from the Russian one.
              8. padded jacket
                padded jacket 12 December 2015 01: 21 New
                +6
                Quote: atalef
                We are Hezbollah again. well, bombing.

                Apparently this happens exclusively in the dreams of your generals lol
                Quote: atalef
                And we recruited them and they are now in the SSA.

                Nonsense, why do you need to turn them over to the control center of all terrorists in the region, and so is in Israel laughing
                Quote: atalef
                Hezbollah and the IRGC fled

                Forgot to add according to the message of the agency - Bloomberg lol
                Quote: atalef
                Do you have anything to refute?

                Why nonsense to refute with him, and so everything is clear.
                Quote: atalef
                Well, right, the Russian Federation respects it the same. Yes, Putin said this. Assad certainly doesn’t like it, but what can you do - if you can’t do anything yourself

                Да нет всё значительно проще сейчас с помощью некоторых подразделений ССА будут уничтожены "чёрные" Аль-Нусра и ДАИШ а затем САА уничтожит "зелёных" то есть ССА.
                Quote: atalef
                Yes, our embassy will not be far from the Russian

                Your embassy is now unlikely to be in Syria at all if only after Israel is divided into Israel and Palestine proper with the general approval of the Jewish population of your country.
              9. atalef
                atalef 12 December 2015 01: 34 New
                -7
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Apparently this happens exclusively in the dreams of your generals

                Well, you will always refute wink , and with reference to Al Manar or another Hezbollah resource. Come on padded jacket. Expose the lie laughing
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Runda Why do you need to turn them over the control center of all terrorists in the region and so is in Israel

                No, we recruited them for Russia and now they are fighting together with the videoconferencing
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Forgot to add according to the message of the agency - Bloomberg

                Well, you’ll give a reference refuting this statement, well, Vatnik? how is it with arabic or farsi?
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Why nonsense to refute with him, and so everything is clear.

                Of course it is clear that you are just yap (nothing that I like you, in my own way)

                Quote: quilted jacket
                Да нет всё значительно проще сейчас с помощью некоторых подразделений ССА будут уничтожены "чёрные" Аль-Нусра и ДАИШ а затем САА уничтожит "зелёных" то есть ССА.

                If you don’t listen, then everything is later or tomorrow - only tomorrow something doesn’t come laughing
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Your embassy is now unlikely to be in Syria

                Well, to hell with him, same to me happiness
                Quote: quilted jacket
                if only after Israel is divided into proper Israel and Palestine with the general approval of the Jewish population of your country.

                I am for. Gas - gas. west coast - west coast.
              10. padded jacket
                padded jacket 12 December 2015 01: 57 New
                +5
                Quote: atalef
                Al Manar or some other Hezbollah resource.

                Hezbollah will not lie, it's not you.
                Quote: atalef
                No, we recruited them for Russia and now they are fighting together with the videoconferencing

                Once again with Al-Nusra we do not fight together, we destroy it on the contrary.
                Quote: atalef
                Well, you’ll give a reference refuting this statement, well, Vatnik? how is it with arabic or farsi?

                Denial of the fact that they are leaving Syria? So no one will simply refute this harm, as a pure lie.
                Quote: atalef
                Of course it’s clear that you are just yap

                I can now give you a bunch of messages that Israel helps and finances terrorism, refute for example this:
                On the way to “Greater Israel”: ISIS ringleader is Mossad’s full-time agent Shimon Elliot
                So, independent sources in the summer of 2014 reported that the real name of “Caliph Al-Baghdadi” - the head of ISIS (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant) - Simon Elliot (Eliot Shimon), he was born from two Jewish parents and is an agent of Mossad.
                http://communitarian.ru/novosti/politika/na_puti_k_velikomu_izrailyu_glavar_igil

                _yavlyaetsya_shtatnym_agentom_mossada_saymonom_eliotom_13012015 /
                Quote: atalef
                If you don’t listen, then everything is later or tomorrow - only tomorrow something doesn’t come

                In-in Jews in Germany also thought so when they were warned that there would be a Holocaust and they did not believe, and then it came tomorrow.
                Quote: atalef
                I am for. Gas - gas. west coast - west coast.

                It’s logical to drive the Jews exclusively to Judea, let them live there lol
      2. Abakan
        Abakan 12 December 2015 04: 37 New
        0
        I say they are Romanians (ebrey) wassat film BROTHER if that)))
  2. GSH-18
    GSH-18 12 December 2015 00: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    Nope, I don’t think so.
    Why do we need this?
    You will defeat all the people, you didn’t need help

    C'mon, don't pretend to be offended. All the same, no one will believe lol In the Second World War, I really needed help! Stalin requested the opening of a second front almost from the first days of the war! And at the end of the war, it was no longer necessary, but the victory was divided up, helpers ..
    Farther.
    Quote: atalef
    We will calmly continue cooperation in the same volume. Moreover, the General Staff of the Russian Federation is quite pleased with this

    Not a true statement! We NOW call everyone to beat DAISH. Now! By the fact that then we will not let freeloaders into Syria. Chingachgook does not step twice in a row on a mop hi
  3. atalef
    atalef 12 December 2015 01: 08 New
    -6
    Quote: GSH-18
    about the fact that then we will not let freeloaders into Syria. Chingachgook does not step twice in a row on a mop

    Yes and no, we have enough hi
    Who else 6 years ago could have thought. what
    1. There will be no nichrome left from Syria
    2. All chemical weapons will be withdrawn from it.
    3. Palestinians will fight against al-Assad
    4. All countries of the world (interested) + Russia will fight against bandits in Syria
    5. The Russian Federation will beat the pots with Turkey and tapping her nose, shortening Erdogan’s ambitions
    6. The Russian Air Force and Air Defense will coordinate their activities with the IDF
    7. The Russian group will in no way prevent us from bombing Hezbollah and its convoys
    DREAM !!!!!!!
  4. Mister22408
    Mister22408 11 December 2015 22: 41 New
    -13
    Come on, between From, they beat, with the nameplates to the fellerof, there is a mess - the blood will be washed away. The question is why our people fit in. When the printing press is arguing with the Gods ...
  • Darkmor
    Darkmor 11 December 2015 22: 08 New
    +3
    I don’t understand what difference does it make for Americans, how much do we spend in dollars?

    Although rockets and bombs have a dollar price tag, they are produced for rubles.
    And they are produced in our factories.
    And these are jobs, government orders, training.
    They did it themselves, delivered it on their own fuel, on their planes with their pilots - all the money is spinning inside our economic system, which means that it does not disappear.

    Ну не было бы Сирии, крейсер "Москва" что, был бы законсервирован? Нет, скорее всего на его содержание и эксплуатацию тратились бы схожие суммы. Сейчас ему на смену поставят "Варяг", проходить тренировку в условиях, приближенных к боевым.
    Aircraft would also have to carry out planned flights and would burn as much aviation kerosene - they would only fly somewhere along the borders in Europe.
    And bombs and missiles would either be decommissioned and disposed of, or would be shot in the ground during exercises.
    Of course, we are spending something on logistics - but these are scanty amounts compared to what our liberals are shouting about.

    Maybe I’ll say an even more terrible thing, but ... we can continue this operation, in principle, endlessly, while the budget of the Defense Ministry manages on its own - the only question is the intensity of the bombing, because obviously we will not have time to produce cruise missiles at a dozen a day.
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 December 2015 22: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: Darkmor
      obviously we will not have time to produce cruise missiles at a dozen a day.

      Why did you get this ??? belay Do you think they are riveted in the garage at Uncle Vasya’s per month? lol
    2. Gadzilla
      Gadzilla 11 December 2015 23: 17 New
      +5
      The fact is that we spend much less, and the effect is 10 times more and this infuriates them.
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 December 2015 23: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: Gadzilla
      The fact is that we spend much less, and the effect is 10 times more and this infuriates them.

      Верно. У этой "амерокоалиции" была задача создать видимость борьбы с ДАИШ, а под шумок перекроить геополитику в регионе под себя. И тут пришли Русские, и показали (вернее бесцеримонно ткнули мopдой в это самое) всему миру кто есть ху и как правильно надо мочить тараканов из ДАИШ.
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  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 11 December 2015 21: 07 New
    +8
    Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
    Counting begins ...

    Well, it's natural. For countries such as the United States, Europe, Israel, there is nothing more interesting than the amount of dollars, euros or shekels in your pocket for them the concept of selfless help is something wild since their entire existence precludes any action without appropriate payment.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 11 December 2015 21: 12 New
      +3
      Iran supplied the Syrian army MLRS own production 122 mm MLM HM20 and most likely they only lit up.

      1. atalef
        atalef 11 December 2015 21: 25 New
        -8
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Iran supplied the Syrian army MLRS own production 122 mm MLM HM20 and most likely they only lit up

        Quince wink
        Iran is withdrawing fighters from elite corps ’guards of the Islamic Revolution from the war zone in Syria because of too high casualties, Bloomberg news agency reported.

        Bloomberg cites data from US and Western military sources. According to this information, having lost many IRGC fighters and commanders, including generals, in battles on the territory of Syria, Iran decided to reduce its direct participation in hostilities.

        In October, American sources cited data according to which from two to seven thousand Iranian guards could fight in Syria. Recently, no more than 700 Iranians have been fighting on the side of the Syrian government forces, while others have been withdrawn from the country.
        Напомним, недавно иранская оппозиция заявила, что под Алеппо был очень тяжело ранен генерал-майор Касем Сулеймани, командир подразделения "Эль-Кудс", один из руководителей боевыми действиями в Сирии.

        In addition, it was reported that the morale of Iranian fighters was undermined by high losses, and several generals refused to fight in Syria, for which they appeared before the tribunal.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 11 December 2015 22: 19 New
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          Quote: atalef
          Iran is withdrawing fighters from elite corps ’guards of the Islamic Revolution from the war zone in Syria because of too high casualties, Bloomberg news agency reported.


          Of course, of course, Bloomberg again lol
          You probably only have tales from RBC, the Echo of Moscow, or are you listening to Bloomberg?
          1. atalef
            atalef 11 December 2015 22: 22 New
            -5
            Quote: quilted jacket
            You probably only have tales from RBC, the Echo of Moscow, or are you listening to Bloomberg?

            Not yet from you. yes
            By the way, you somehow did not respond to the message that Iran was withdrawing the IRGC from Syria.
            What do your Shia relatives say about this?
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 11 December 2015 22: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              Not yet from you.

              I always tell the truth based on facts mainly from your own Israeli press.
              Quote: atalef
              By the way, you somehow did not respond to the message that Iran was withdrawing the IRGC from Syria.

              And what is there to comment on a message from the Bloomberg agency as always is another tale for individuals like you lol
            2. atalef
              atalef 11 December 2015 22: 51 New
              -1
              Quote: quilted jacket
              I always tell the truth based on facts mainly from your own Israeli press

              Of course the truth, and nothing but the truth laughing
              Quote: quilted jacket
              And what is there to comment on a message from the Bloomberg agency as always is another tale for individuals like you

              This is the same from our press. wink
            3. padded jacket
              padded jacket 11 December 2015 23: 01 New
              +2
              Quote: atalef
              Bloomberg

              Bloomberg is more likely your press laughing
            4. atalef
              atalef 11 December 2015 23: 07 New
              -3
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Quote: atalef
              Bloomberg

              Bloomberg is more likely your press laughing

              but what about this? wink
              Quote: quilted jacket
              I always tell the truth based on facts mainly from your own Israeli press.

              Quince good
            5. padded jacket
              padded jacket 11 December 2015 23: 17 New
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              Quince

              А чему ты удивлён пишу то я в основном для вас и наших пользователей что бы вы как всегда не "затуманили" им мозги своим враньём и опираюсь именно на ваши ресурсы а не на ресурсы других стран.
              Если бы я опирался на публикации российских ресурсов меня бы давно забанили там столько правды о вас но к сожалению это будет расценено как "злостный антисемитизм".
              And I meant your Bloomberg resource as Western anti-Russian.
    2. avva2012
      avva2012 11 December 2015 22: 41 New
      +2
      I don’t know what to answer, comrade padded jacket, но у меня есть версия. Для Ирана, отправить КСИР в Сирию, это не просто влезть в другое государство. Иран, как бы официально, единственное религиозное государство. И помощь единоверцам, для них не пустой звук. Поэтому, я не верю в сообщение данного агентства. Особенно, в то, что генералы отказались, и их отдали под трибунал. Если бы, так было, их забили бы камнями. Блю., как его, исходит из психологии толерантного общества. А, что такое, "помощь единоверцам", то можно вспомнить, сколько добровольцев поехало "спасать братушек" в Русско-Турецкую войну.
    3. padded jacket
      padded jacket 11 December 2015 22: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: avva2012
      I don’t know what he will answer, comrade quilted jacket, but I have a version. For Iran, sending the IRGC to Syria is not just getting into another state. Iran, as if officially, is the only religious state. And helping fellow believers is not an empty phrase for them.

      Yes, this is nothing Iran is fighting in Syria from the very beginning of the aggression of international terrorism against this country, and its losses never frightened, for example, in the Iran-Iraq war, it lost almost a million people.
      And now he understands perfectly well that if they do not destroy the terrorists, they will go against him and he has the same situation as in our country, either to destroy the bandits at distant approaches or then fight them but on the territory of his country.
    4. avva2012
      avva2012 11 December 2015 23: 05 New
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      Yes, this is nothing Iran is fighting in Syria from the very beginning of the aggression of international terrorism against this country
      Nonsense in terms of withdrawal, or that they help Shiites, like co-religionists? I wonder, the Iranians belong to the ayatollah, how do we relate to V.V. Putin? I didn’t set the minus.
    5. padded jacket
      padded jacket 12 December 2015 00: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: avva2012
      Nonsense in terms of withdrawal, or that they help Shiites, like co-religionists?

      Rather, there are not so many Alawites and Shiites in Syria as believers and as allies, and Assad and his authority are also supported by a fairly large number of Sunnis, including the Palestinians living in Syria after the occupation of their country by Israel.
      Quote: avva2012
      I wonder, the Iranians belong to the ayatollah, how do we relate to V.V. Putin?

      I can’t say this. I don’t live in Iran.
    6. avva2012
      avva2012 12 December 2015 00: 05 New
      0
      Well, there's nothing to argue about.
      and Palestinians living in Syria after the occupation of their country by Israel.
      Without a stone in the garden of Atalefu, no way? hi
    7. padded jacket
      padded jacket 12 December 2015 00: 18 New
      0
      Quote: avva2012
      Without a stone in the garden of Atalefu, no way?

      What does any stone have to do with this?
      For a long time, the well-known state of Palestine has long been recognized by approximately 130 states out of 200 existing in the world.
    8. avva2012
      avva2012 12 December 2015 00: 23 New
      0
      Yes, I'm not serious. I read your correspondence, sincerely enjoy it. Serious on the site a dime a dozen, got it. Sincerely! wink
  • atalef
    atalef 12 December 2015 00: 31 New
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    Quote: avva2012
    and Palestinians living in Syria after the occupation of their country by Israel.
    Without a stone in the garden of Atalefu, nor how

    Well, Vatnik, as always, doesn’t finish
    There are Palestinians, who in Syria are up to half a million.
    Palestinians in the Syrian conflict are perceived as Sunni Arabs and perceive themselves as such. Therefore, naturally, they are fighting against Assad, and Assad is fighting against them. The largest Palestinian refugee camp in Syria, Yarmouk, located in the vicinity of Damascus, is bombed continuously. All Palestinian organizations fighting against Israel left Syria. And the Palestinians themselves are fighting against the Assad regime in the most active way.

    The most wonderful situation for us. Palestinians and Assad troops are felling each other, and we, as always, wish success to both sides laughing
  • atalef
    atalef 11 December 2015 23: 18 New
    -1
    Quote: quilted jacket
    Yes, this is nothing Iran is fighting in Syria from the very beginning of the aggression of international terrorism against this country, and its losses never frightened, for example, in the Iran-Iraq war, it lost almost a million people.

    Of course, they only fought for their country
    Quote: quilted jacket
    And now he understands perfectly well that if they do not destroy the terrorists, they will go against him and he has the same situation as in our country, either to destroy the bandits at distant approaches or then fight them but on the territory of his country.

    figured it out myself ? or can you confirm something?
    wink
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 11 December 2015 23: 32 New
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    Of course, they only fought for their country

    So what? Their co-religionists live in Syria, besides Iran is known as an implacable fighter against terrorism, as well as Hezbollah.
    Quote: atalef
    figured it out myself ? or can you confirm something?

    You are talking nonsense again, I always said that we should help Syria defeat terrorism in the country far from our borders, otherwise it will grow there and go to us in Russia, Iraq, Iran and it will be possible to lead them from the USA and Israel.
  • atalef
    atalef 11 December 2015 23: 52 New
    -1
    Quote: quilted jacket
    So what? Their co-religionists live in Syria, besides Iran known as an implacable fighter against terrorism, however, like Hezbollah.

    Well, they are fighting these co-religionists against ---- co-religionists laughing
    Quote: quilted jacket
    You are talking nonsense again, I always said that we should help Syria defeat terrorism in the country far from our borders, otherwise it will grow there and go to us in Russia, Iraq, Iran and it will be possible to lead them from the USA and Israel.

    Interesting in the General Staff of the Russian Federation (do they know about Israel?)
    And then enlighten. It may be better for them to cooperate with Hezbollah, otherwise we bombed again 3 days ago, with full understanding of the Russian Aerospace Forces
    Respectfully, as always laughing
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 12 December 2015 00: 11 New
    +3
    Quote: atalef
    Well, they are fighting these co-religionists against ---- co-religionists

    Are you distorting again?
    Currents in one faith have always fought, for example, Catholics against Protestants and those and other Christians, but after all, there were many such examples.
    Это вот иудеев почему то "не любят" никто не христиане не мусульмане не буддисты везде на всей планете существует антисиметизм.
    Can you tell me why atalef?
    Quote: atalef
    And then enlighten. It may be better for them to cooperate with Hezbollah, otherwise we bombed again 3 days ago, with full understanding of the Russian Aerospace Forces
    Respectfully, as always

    Again, according to Bloomberg, or did the London Observatory for Human Rights excel? lol
    The storytellers are again trying, at least with the help of a lie, to give themselves greatness and weight laughing
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 11 December 2015 21: 19 New
    +6
    Quote: quilted jacket
    Well, it's natural. For countries such as the United States, Europe, Israel, there is nothing more interesting than the amount of dollars, euros or shekels in your pocket for them the concept of selfless help is something wild since their entire existence precludes any action without appropriate payment.

    Longnose Bloombergs. We have our own polite accounting.
  • Tusv
    Tusv 11 December 2015 21: 26 New
    -1
    Quote: quilted jacket
    Israel is nothing more interesting than the amount of dollars, euros or shekels in your pocket

    In fairness, they don’t break money in their pocket, and the safety of the population amounts to billions of dollars. An extra penny or a shekel will not hurt both our country and any state.
    That's poop not like a Citizen of the Russian Federation. Leave it to the Ukrainian junta
    1. atalef
      atalef 11 December 2015 21: 39 New
      -13
      Quote: Tusv
      That's poop not like a Citizen of the Russian Federation. Leave it to the Ukrainian junta

      Hi Vladimir!
      Do not leave a padded jacket without your favorite entertainment, especially since he has nothing else but poop - no.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 11 December 2015 21: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        Do not leave a padded jacket without your favorite entertainment, especially since he has nothing else but poop - no.

        Ну вся ваша так сказать политика государства Израиль и есть одна большая "какашка" так что про вас что не скажи всё истинная правда.
        1. atalef
          atalef 11 December 2015 22: 11 New
          -1
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Ну вся ваша так сказать политика государства Израиль и есть одна большая "какашка" так что про вас что не скажи всё истинная правда.

          Especially from your lips laughing
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 11 December 2015 22: 26 New
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            Especially from your lips

            I do not carry out the policy of Israel in the life of your fellow Jews.
            20-летний еврей из Израиля отправился воевать на стороне "Исламского государства"
            Молодой еврей из Израиля попытался вступить в ряды радикального исламистского движения "Исламское государство" и отправиться воевать на его стороне в Сирии.
            http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/09/01/izrailskiy-evrey-otpravilsya-vo
            evat-na-storone-islamskogo-gosudarstva /
            Well, I didn’t have time to get, but how many of these Israelites did?
          2. atalef
            atalef 11 December 2015 22: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: quilted jacket
            I do not carry out the policy of Israel in the life of your fellow Jews.
            20-летний еврей из Израиля отправился воевать на стороне "Исламского государства"
            Молодой еврей из Израиля попытался вступить в ряды радикального исламистского движения "Исламское государство" и отправиться воевать на его стороне в Сирии.

            Well padded jacket, the devil is hiding in the little things, ugly to fix
            Young Jew from Israel попытался вступить в ряды радикального исламистского движения "Исламское государство" и отправиться воевать на его стороне в Сирии.

            With the cooperation of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and international youth agencies man managed to intercept on the way to Syria and return home

            Quote: quilted jacket
            Well, I didn’t have time to get, but how many of these Israelites did?

            A hundred times smaller than the Russians. Although they certainly are not Shiites like you, but the same Muslims. wink
            Currently about 30 Israeli Arabs entered the ranks of the Islamic group ISIS, the government will consider the possibility of depriving them of their citizenship.

            The initiator of this decision was the Minister of Tourism, Uzi Landau. On Tuesday, October 14, he turned to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with a proposal.

            “These people live in Israel, are the citizens of our country. But these people living near us can turn their weapons against us at any time, ”Landau writes in his letter to the Prime Minister.

            The Minister said that every Israeli should be sure that the Israeli authorities will strictly suppress any manifestation of ISIS.
          3. padded jacket
            padded jacket 12 December 2015 00: 35 New
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            Well padded jacket, the devil is hiding in the little things, ugly to fix

            And what have I fixed?
            I gave everything in the text a link to an Israeli resource is present there.
            Quote: atalef
            Hundreds of times fewer Russians ..

            So in our country and lives ten times more Muslims than you have in Israel.
            According to various estimates, from 20 to 40 million and you have difficulty gaining 2 million.
            Quote: atalef
            Although they are certainly not Shiites like you, they are also Muslims.

            Ты что считаешь иудей это как то выше мусульманина? Да вы и иудеи и мусульмане оба обрезание делаете и пишите справа на лево и "иероглифы" используете так что нечего тебе особо "выделываться".
            What a Jew that a Muslim - at least cousins, but rather relatives.
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 11 December 2015 21: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: Tusv
    the security of the population is estimated at billions of dollars. An extra penny or a shekel will not hurt both our country and any state.

    Так мы и занимаемся тем что ограждаем наше население от террористов ДАИШ воюю в Сирии и количество денег потраченное нашим государством на это не должно особо волновать наших западных друзей мы ведь не их "бумажки" тратим.
    So, it’s not for them what is important is not our current actions and situation there, but the amount of money spent by our country.
  • Frigate
    Frigate 11 December 2015 23: 33 New
    +2
    Quote: quilted jacket

    Well, it's natural. For countries such as the United States, Europe, Israel, there is nothing more interesting than the amount of dollars, euros or shekels in your pocket for them the concept of selfless help is something wild since their entire existence precludes any action without appropriate payment.


    The fact is that for the Jews, a disinterested world, death is similar. For in it there is no interest, no gain. They will die out in it.)))
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 12 December 2015 01: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: Frigate
      The fact is that for the Jews, a disinterested world, death is similar. For in it there is no interest, no gain. They will die out in it.

      Well, the world of digital numbers smilebanknotes and coins of their element is not in vain the Jews mostly preferred to deal with accounting, becoming traders money-lender money changers.
      1. atalef
        atalef 12 December 2015 01: 17 New
        -5
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Quote: Frigate
        The fact is that for the Jews, a disinterested world, death is similar. For in it there is no interest, no gain. They will die out in it.

        Well, the world of digital numbers smilebanknotes and coins of their element is not in vain the Jews mostly preferred to deal with accounting, becoming traders money-lender money changers.

        Envy. padded jacket. envy
        This is not for you cat shawarma and not apples in the market to sell. laughing
        My Azerbaijan friend hi
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 12 December 2015 01: 35 New
          +5
          Quote: atalef
          Envy. padded jacket. envy

          I envy what you know how to deceive another?
          So this is not talent, but simply criminal inclinations.
          Quote: atalef
          This is not for you cat shawarma and not apples in the market to sell. laughing

          Во-во это ты скажи нашим пользователем из Азербайджана которые помню вам израильтянам тут на форуме раньше "в рот смотрели" и одобряли каждое ваше слово laughing And you Jews hate them so much. I told you in Israel the darkness of racists and for some reason they consider themselves superior to other people. lol
          1. atalef
            atalef 12 December 2015 01: 46 New
            -6
            Quote: quilted jacket
            I envy what you know how to deceive another?
            So this is not talent, but simply criminal inclinations.

            Come on Vatnik, sold three shaverms. said that you can collect 2 cats, and there was only one meat.
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Во-во это ты скажи нашим пользователем из Азербайджана которые помню вам израильтянам тут на форуме раньше "в рот смотрели" и одобряли каждое ваше слово

            And you have to do with the dear Azerbaijani people, only by writing in the birth certificate, I try to show with my posts that among beautiful people there can be a black sheep, albeit dressed in a quilted jacket
            Quote: quilted jacket
            And you Jews hate them so much

            Am I Azerbaijanis? padded jacket, have you been vaccinated against foot and mouth disease?

            Quote: quilted jacket
            I said in Israel the darkness of racists and for some reason they consider themselves superior to other people

            What are you, we are the same b.s. like you.
            Good night, Vatnik, have fallen for each other today, I hope I didn’t offend you. if something goes wrong, sorry - not out of spite, but solely from a misunderstanding hi
          2. padded jacket
            padded jacket 12 December 2015 02: 17 New
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            Come on Vatnik, sold three shaverms. said that you can collect 2 cats, and there was only one meat.

            Are you giving out your personal entrepreneurial secrets? lol
            Quote: atalef
            And you have to do with the highly respected Azerbaijani people,

            I don’t, but you obviously have.
            Quote: atalef
            that among beautiful people there may be a black sheep, even if it is dressed in a quilted jacket

            No need to draw an analogy with yourself, I certainly understand that you are an outcast among Jews and I hope very few people like you.
            Quote: atalef
            Am I Azerbaijanis?

            Yes, you are all people hated except Jews. People like you roam the streets of Jerusalem with screams - death to the Arabs.
            Quote: atalef
            What are you, we are the same b.s. like you.

            Well, if you yourself as you wrote this - b.s.
            Personally, I consider myself a man.
            Quote: atalef
            Vatnik, we’ve fallen for each other today, I hope I didn’t offend you. if something goes wrong, sorry - not out of spite, but solely from a misunderstanding

            Have you offended me? belay
            Yes, you just can’t do it lol
  • sovetskyturist
    sovetskyturist 11 December 2015 23: 44 New
    +2
    Yes, some money Democrats love, sell and buy all the other day in Brussels a symposium was held on the sale of children to gays [ie pink partner pairs] http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/monde/2015/05/11/31002 -20150511ARTFIG00137-gpa-de-600
    008364-a-1500008364-le-prix-du-bebe-a-bruxelles.php GPA: de 60.000 € à 150.000 € le prix du bébé à Bruxelles
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 11 December 2015 20: 42 New
    +3
    On the ninth of May at the Victory Parade With 500 see.
    1. cniza
      cniza 11 December 2015 20: 50 New
      +4
      Quote: Vadim237
      On the ninth of May at the Victory Parade With 500 see.


      I think there will be more interesting gifts.
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    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 December 2015 21: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Vadim237
      On the ninth of May at the Victory Parade With 500 see.

      And what to look at him? The main thing is how it differs in a positive direction from its predecessor! Here's what you need to look at.
  • kotev19
    kotev19 11 December 2015 22: 26 New
    +2
    As if in someone else's pocket they would not put it in place of money! laughing
  • viktor561
    viktor561 11 December 2015 22: 30 New
    +2
    Yes, the ammunition has an expiration date - but it’s expensive to dispose of, but here you can use it in the case - everything is fine !!!!!!
  • oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 12 December 2015 04: 48 New
    0
    Quote: Tor5
    Worth it! Do not count money in someone else's pocket.
    - They just stupidly want to bleed us, as once the Soviet Union. Let's hope that the GDP has calculated this option as well.
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  • 79807420129
    79807420129 11 December 2015 19: 31 New
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    These Bloombergs of England would be better for kakeli how much their ATO costs, since not only can Russia repay the money, but the IMF can pay.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 11 December 2015 19: 56 New
      -3
      In the account of anti-terrorist operation they forgave our three.
      1. izya top
        izya top 11 December 2015 20: 21 New
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        Quote: Good AAAH
        In the account of anti-terrorist operation they forgave our three.

        Letter from a young Bandera Santa Claus:
        "Я хочу, чтобы тебя с оленями сбили мockaли над моей хатой.
        Мockaлям за это санкций понавешают, а мешок со всеми подарками упадёт в мой огород!"
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  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 December 2015 20: 45 New
    +7
    Гнилой банк "Славия" решил обанкротить Брянский автомобильный завод, который производит шасси для ЗРК С-300/400 и С-500 в перспективе.

    That's where the national traitors sat down.

    And in the spring they wanted to bankrupt UVZ.

    Where the government is looking, interests me.
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 11 December 2015 21: 03 New
      +4
      A bear is not a government. This is an iPhone.
  • Mister22408
    Mister22408 11 December 2015 22: 29 New
    -5
    Да,ладно,С-700 "на проводе"- с точкой прицеливания - "Базель":-)
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 11 December 2015 21: 39 New
    +1
    Western experts for some reason do not ask how to help Russia in the fight against terrorism, but present information as if they were calculating how long after the start of such an operation the potentials of the Russian defense budget would run out ...

    DO NOT WAIT! hi
  • svp67
    svp67 11 December 2015 18: 49 New
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    Bloomberg news agency decided to publish data from the so-called Royal Joint Institute for Defense Research.
    Now the ENGLISH ACCOUNTANTS, have become on a par with the ENGLISH SCIENTISTS. I think that with the same success ... And in general, counting other people's money is a thankless task.
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 11 December 2015 18: 55 New
      +3
      Yes, everything is easier. Spends not Russia, and Syria. We got a military base on the Mediterranean. So, most likely, the cost of a military operation of the Ministry of Defense generally refers to the rent for the base.
      And the importance of a base on the Mediterranean Sea, both for trade and for security, cannot be overestimated.
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      2. atalef
        atalef 11 December 2015 20: 25 New
        -5
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Yes, everything is simpler. Spends not Russia, but Syria.

        Of course Syria.
        And who earns?
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        We got a military base in the Mediterranean

        This is if Assad remains at the power
        By the way, she was there before
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        So, most likely, the expenses of the military operation of the Ministry of Defense are generally attributed to the base rental fee.

        For that kind of money. on the moon you can rent a base

        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        And the importance of the base on the Mediterranean for trade and security is hard to overestimate

        That's about trade, you can read more.
        1. DobryAAH
          DobryAAH 11 December 2015 20: 57 New
          +2
          To us, the Jewish diaspora in Russia makes charitable contributions for the operation in Syria.
          Have you heard how your Mashiach was taken by the ass? I can tell you ...
          1. atalef
            atalef 11 December 2015 21: 00 New
            -1
            Quote: Good AAAH
            To us, the Jewish diaspora in Russia makes charitable contributions for the operation in Syria.

            Yes to health. good
            I would not give request
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 11 December 2015 21: 08 New
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              Yes to health

              Judging by the responses, Wi is generally delighted with the operation of the videoconferencing. But in fact?
              1. atalef
                atalef 11 December 2015 21: 23 New
                +1
                Quote: Tusv
                Quote: atalef
                Yes to health

                Judging by the responses, Wi is generally delighted with the operation of the videoconferencing. But in fact?

                And in fact, delighted.
    2. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 11 December 2015 19: 05 New
      +8
      Every year, our VKS spend money on exercises in which both fuel and ammunition are spent, it has always been on the budget and no one was aching. It’s just that now we are conducting the exercises not on our land, but on the Syrian one, it has practically no effect on the budget. In return, we get real combat experience, advertise our weapons and increase our credibility with virtually no serious financial burden. All expenses will be repulsed by contracts for the supply of weapons.
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 11 December 2015 19: 42 New
        +3
        Denis, you’re right. And I heard somewhere that war is cheaper than training on its territory. Is it true, I can’t vouch ...
        It is possible that there will be several military bases. And if you do not pay for the rent, then you can go to zero in the calculations.
        If this land is worth nothing, then why is it that they all climb there so much.
        1. atalef
          atalef 11 December 2015 20: 29 New
          0
          Quote: Barkhan
          Yenis, you are right. And I heard somewhere that war is cheaper than exercises on its territory

          Yes, I know where, you heard it wink
          Quote: Barkhan
          It is possible that there will be several military bases. And if you do not pay for the rent, then you can go to zero in the calculations.

          laughing
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 12 December 2015 09: 55 New
            +2
            О ...приветствую Вас,о Александр, с "огромными кулаками".
            Perhaps my words are cynical. But I don’t like the habit of squandering good and state money. Forgiving debts, for example many billions, If you get into some sort of mess, you need to clearly understand what you want to get in the end ...
            Насколько я понимаю,Асад уже публично пообещал России "осваивать" эту территорию.Ну а полноценные и сильные военные базы в этом месте нам очень нужны.Дальше всё просто ,Асаду власть на базы лет на сто,с символической оплатой в один банан...
            If our troops stand, I think Israel will be calmer wink
            Well, it’s possible to finally disperse the barmaleys when we stop sorting them ...
            A theoretical example without a hitch .... How long will it take for Israel to resolve the Palestinian question if it is given full will?
            Personally, I think that anyway, sooner or later everything will come to a total sweep. An example is the district of Turkoman.
      2. dorz
        dorz 11 December 2015 19: 51 New
        +3
        Слова Путина: "Если мы не уничтожим террористов в Сирии, они будут уничтожать нас дома".
        As for money, Europe will spend tens of $ billion on accommodation, expulsion (Norway) of refugees
      3. family tree
        family tree 11 December 2015 19: 57 New
        +3
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Every year, our VKS spend money on exercises in which both fuel and ammunition are spent, it has always been on the budget and no one was aching.

        Given that plaque in combat conditions is priceless, and ammunition has an expiration date
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 11 December 2015 20: 31 New
          +8
          Quote: perepilka
          , and the ammunition has an expiration date

          So.... winked , Wow what I didn’t know .. recourse ...., and I have a box of vodka for already 3-4 in the basement sad , пойду "взорву" грамм 350, а то может эту партию пора "утилизировать, вдруг не "взорвётся" в нужный момент.. negative Well, this is a saying, a fairy tale is that on all the turnover-balance sheets of small-shavens of our costs in Syria there is a good Russian proverb about the fact that in someone else's hands (something) is always thicker. Hello feathered drinks !
          1. family tree
            family tree 11 December 2015 20: 44 New
            +4
            Quote: Tersky
            and I have a box of vodka for 3-4 years already in the basement :(

            This is a crime against humanity, Cossack! soldier With all due respect. Any surplus is sentenced in favor of hundreds, after which there is a demand, to the division commander, to let go into the sea! I even got it, on horsebacks, to India, of course, in the sea ourselves, in the sense, I’m more likely with you now, but don’t be afraid, now, don’t be afraid, I danced on horseholes on horseholes from childhood. And in the sea, son, he helps to make them, and let the naval aviation, on an urgent basis, on Novaya Zemlya, but his grandfather was registered for the float.
            He even figured out that the whole family was liable for military service, that his wife and daughter, medical workers, that my son and I what
            Well, on the edge, in case there are fewer problems, the military enlistment office and ...
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 11 December 2015 20: 56 New
              +5
              Quote: perepilka
              Any surplus is sentenced in favor of hundreds,

              , hmm ... well, maybe a hundred will not be enough, but for three or two days, the most .. laughing
              1. family tree
                family tree 11 December 2015 21: 08 New
                +2
                Quote: Tersky
                , hmm ... well, maybe a hundred will not be enough, but for three or two days, the most .. laughing

                Well, ten divided by six what No, Vit, at least a flat cake, but on the second day, a box, around the edge
          2. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 11 December 2015 21: 14 New
            +4
            Quote: Tersky
            and I have a box of vodka for already 3-4 in the basement

            Check, check, and then there probably is not 40, but 25 degrees. Alcohol gradually evaporates and faster than water.
            1. family tree
              family tree 11 December 2015 21: 31 New
              0
              Quote: Алексей_К
              Check, check, and then there probably is not 40, but 25 degrees. Alcohol gradually evaporates and faster than water.

              A guy in Kyrgyzstan, such a village, sorted the stove, found a bottle in a crate, sealed with wax. In the spring it was, on May Day I drank my face in one face, the punishment was immediate, all night, walked around the village, and played the accordion. One! request
              1. atalef
                atalef 11 December 2015 21: 35 New
                +1
                Quote: perepilka
                Quote: Алексей_К
                Check, check, and then there probably is not 40, but 25 degrees. Alcohol gradually evaporates and faster than water.

                A guy in Kyrgyzstan, such a village, sorted the stove, found a bottle in a crate, sealed with wax. In the spring it was, on May Day I drank my face in one face, the punishment was immediate, all night, walked around the village, and played the accordion. One! request

                Hello Volodya!
                Did you find the same accordion in the stove? wink
                1. family tree
                  family tree 11 December 2015 22: 34 New
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  Did you find the same accordion in the stove? wink

                  Hi Sanya drinks We have three houses, two harmonica, musical people. Well, the guitars yet.
                  In January, half your vacation, come, I’ll throw off my address, if anything, fishing, barbecue, UAZ-452, guitar, songs, under vodka winked
              2. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K 11 December 2015 23: 51 New
                +3
                Quote: perepilka
                Quote: Алексей_К
                Check, check, and then there probably is not 40, but 25 degrees. Alcohol gradually evaporates and faster than water.

                A guy in Kyrgyzstan, such a village, sorted the stove, found a bottle in a crate, sealed with wax. In the spring it was, on May Day I drank my face in one face, the punishment was immediate, all night, walked around the village, and played the accordion. One! request

                Так то сургучём опечатанная, это абсолютная герметичность. А сейчас водку так никто не опечатывает, мало того, эти завинчивающиеся "крышки", часто вообще не закручены до конца, т.е. не плотно.
        2. Mister22408
          Mister22408 15 December 2015 10: 15 New
          0
          sometimes there are such years in product labeling ... (8th laughing category)
      4. svd-xnumx
        svd-xnumx 11 December 2015 20: 12 New
        0
        Every year, our VKS spend money on exercises in which both fuel and ammunition are spent, it has always been on the budget and no one was aching. It’s just that now we are conducting the exercises not on our land, but on the Syrian one, it has practically no effect on the budget.
        And most importantly, almost all of the funds allocated for defense go to our enterprises, the money goes to the real sector of the economy. If we bought weapons abroad, then the losses would be huge.
      5. atalef
        atalef 11 December 2015 20: 28 New
        -15
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Every year, our VKS spend money on exercises in which both fuel and ammunition are spent, it has always been on the budget and no one was aching. It’s just that now we are conducting the exercises not on our land, but on the Syrian one, it has practically no effect on the budget.

        Oh well
        Do you know the difference?
        If there is no money, the teachings can be reduced, squeezed, transferred, stopped, --- and with Syria, how?
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        . In return, we get real combat experience

        Come on ?
        VKS bombed easier than at the training grounds - there is no opposition.

        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        We advertise our weapons and increase our credibility with virtually no serious financial burden.

        two mistakes in your comments - what do you think?

        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        . All expenses will be repulsed by contracts for the supply of weapons.

        To Syria laughing
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 11 December 2015 21: 25 New
          +7
          Quote: atalef
          two mistakes in your comments - what do you think?

          Уважаемый "atalef"! Бросьте придираться к ошибкам, или это Вы имеете что-то другое? В Ваших предложениях сплошные ошибки, но никто же не выражается об этом.
      6. Tusv
        Tusv 11 December 2015 20: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        In return, we get real combat experience, advertise our weapons and increase our credibility with virtually no serious financial burden. All expenses will be repulsed by contracts for the supply of weapons.

        It's like that. The main thing to do, as always, is to win
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 11 December 2015 20: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      Now the ENGLISH ACCOUNTANTS, have become on a par with the ENGLISH SCIENTISTS. I think that with the same success ... And in general, counting other people's money is a thankless task.

      They know how to count money - they were in your pocket in your pocket. You see, Borya sponsored the NATO Iraqi expedition, writing off the debts of Iraq (the amount of $ 41 billion was announced on TV). Lukoil and Rosatom kicked out - this is still a fifty-dollar loss of profits and a good investment - a minimum of twenty.

      So it's cheaper for us to bomb the barmalei for four lard than to lose hundreds of lard
    4. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 11 December 2015 21: 43 New
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      Now the ENGLISH ACCOUNTANTS, have become on a par with the ENGLISH SCIENTISTS. I think that with the same success ... And in general, counting other people's money is a thankless task.


      "Каждый доллар в чужом кармане он воспринимал как личное оскорбление." .

      ( O.Henry )
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 December 2015 22: 48 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Now the ENGLISH ACCOUNTANTS, have become on a par with the ENGLISH SCIENTISTS. I think that with the same success ... In general, counting other people's money is a thankless task

      Not accountants. Propaganda from media controlled by the media.
  • Uran
    Uran 11 December 2015 18: 49 New
    +4
    instead of. in order to help bomb the igles, they sit and consider our expenses, thereby buying bandits’s blood oil for cheap!
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    2. Siberian
      Siberian 11 December 2015 19: 05 New
      +2
      They are waiting, they will not wait (counting the days and months) when we are busy with finances. So they themselves do not climb, save. Hornless demons.
      1. zennon
        zennon 11 December 2015 19: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: Siberian
        They are waiting, they will not wait (counting the days and months) when we are busy with finances.

        Be that as it may, but the money is not small. The CSTO is shaking the time. very far from these places. The population of Central Asia does not concern radical Islam, and you can’t lure them into ISIS. The citizens of Belarus did not die in the plane blown up over Sinai, why should they strain! Russia is responsible for all.
        1. atalef
          atalef 11 December 2015 20: 31 New
          0
          Quote: zennon
          Be that as it may, but the money is not small. The CSTO is the most time to shake

          shake dad laughing
          1. cniza
            cniza 11 December 2015 20: 57 New
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: zennon
            Be that as it may, but the money is not small. The CSTO is the most time to shake

            shake dad laughing



            Old Man is also not iron, and certainly not eternal, he understands everything and will not be there, there will be no Belarus in its current form.
          2. 79807420129
            79807420129 11 December 2015 21: 14 New
            10
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: zennon
            Be that as it may, but the money is not small. The CSTO is the most time to shake

            shake dad laughing

            Alexander, and who are you shaking, is it really the USA?
            1. atalef
              atalef 11 December 2015 21: 27 New
              +3
              Quote: 79807420129
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: zennon
              Be that as it may, but the money is not small. The CSTO is the most time to shake

              shake dad laughing

              Alexander, and who are you shaking, is it really the USA?

              Why only the USA? We, as expected, the whole world is shaking and (as the Old Man says) we are replaying. hi
              1. 79807420129
                79807420129 11 December 2015 21: 32 New
                +8
                [quote = atalef] [quote = 79807420129] [quote = atalef] [quote = zennon] Anyway, but the money is not small. It’s time to shake the Collective Security Treaty Organization [/ quote]
                shake dad laughing[/ Quote]
                Alexander, and who are you shaking, is it really the USA? [/ Quo hi te]
                Why only the USA? We, as expected, the whole world is shaking and (as the Old Man says) we are replaying. hi[/ Quote]
                In what way did they get to the aliens? And they also counted all the money from them? hi
                1. atalef
                  atalef 11 December 2015 21: 35 New
                  +3
                  Quote: 79807420129
                  but how did you get to the aliens? And they also counted all the money from them?

                  They are us fin. reports to classmates send.
                  1. 79807420129
                    79807420129 11 December 2015 21: 45 New
                    +9
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: 79807420129
                    but how did you get to the aliens? And they also counted all the money from them?

                    They are us fin. reports to classmates send.

                    Well, you yourself deal with aliens, and we’ll creak something like that, especially since the Bloombergs climb into the assistants, they probably send you financial reports in contact. hi
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 11 December 2015 21: 53 New
                      +1
                      Quote: 79807420129
                      all the more so Bloombergs climb into the assistants, they probably send you financial reports in contact

                      What for ? Bloomberg of ours laughing
                      Bloomberg was founded by Michael Bloomberg in 1981. It is a private company, Michael Bloomberg bought back 2008% of the company from Merrill Lynch in July 20 and now the founder owns 88% of the shares [1].

                      Bloomberg is one of two leading providers of financial information for professional participants in financial markets. The main product is Bloomberg Terminal, through which you can access current and historical prices on almost all world exchanges and many over-the-counter markets, the Bloomberg news feed and other leading media, the electronic bond trading system and other securities.

                      Michael Rubens Bloomberg is a businessman and 108th mayor of New York. One of the richest people in the world according to Forbes, in 2013 he takes 10th place with a fortune of $ 31 billion

                      By the way, being the mayor of New York, he had a salary of $ 1 per year. laughing

                      Quote: 79807420129
                      Well, you yourself deal with aliens,

                      Already figured out
                      1. 79807420129
                        79807420129 11 December 2015 22: 06 New
                        +8
                        Alexander atalef Bloomberg no longer pour, or something again counts something, Okay good night, thanks for the conversation. good hi
              2. DobryAAH
                DobryAAH 11 December 2015 21: 52 New
                +1
                Do you miss your homeland? These are not real Jews. The real ones have always lived in Israel. Imagine that Muslims and others lived in Khazaria, have never been to Israel, and here, out of nowhere, the Jews from Iran came to the country, seized key posts in the country, lurking, and the guys have already converted to Judaism. Somewhere like that.
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 11 December 2015 22: 04 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Good AAAH
                  .Real always lived in Israel

                  Real Jews are the same Arabs of only a different faith.
                  1. DobryAAH
                    DobryAAH 11 December 2015 22: 46 New
                    0
                    Once upon a time we lived like a fake (Khazark) Jewish woman, a doctor in a clinic, a good woman. Once, in childhood, I pulled a nail out of my leg, climbed anywhere. So, I decided to leave for Israel, but could not bear the separation from my homeland, she quickly died there. Conclusion for Atalef: you can not tear yourself away from their native land.
              3. Mister22408
                Mister22408 15 December 2015 10: 31 New
                0
                So far (or already) only half ... hi At the same time, entropy is also growing ...
          3. Siberian
            Siberian 11 December 2015 21: 15 New
            0
            CSTO can be shaken. It just seems that they are sitting in a shade under a tree, so that the sun does not bake.
        2. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 11 December 2015 21: 52 New
          -1
          Shake the CSTO, when necessary, will not go anywhere. Fried rooster is a contagious disease, they picked it up long ago from the Russians, it’s just that the incubation period has not ended yet, but it doesn’t last long. How all this abomination breaks down in their area - they will see at once, and plans to counter the shaitans in those parts of the General Staff are developed and are adjusted daily, it seems to me.
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 December 2015 22: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Uranus
      instead of. in order to help bomb the igles, they sit and consider our expenses, thereby buying bandits’s blood oil for cheap!

      There is an information war, my friend ...
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 11 December 2015 18: 53 New
    +6
    Вы, господа "is greatvashumamukorolevubritish" учёные, особо не напрягайтесь. Как там было у Владимира Семёновича:
    ... scientists, precious Einsteins,
    Newtons are beloved, beloved to tears.
    After all, our mortal remains will lie in the ground,
    After all, everything is the same - apatity and dung ...

    Will not be enough, reset. For the sake of a good cause, we will forever ... wink
  • ImPerts
    ImPerts 11 December 2015 18: 54 New
    +2
    It is commendable that everyone considers it there. It is commendable that they do not want to spend extra money ...
    But they are well aware that printed wrappers must be fused.
    And this is war.
    Only war allows capitalism to emerge from the crisis with renewed vigor.
  • 020205
    020205 11 December 2015 18: 54 New
    10
    Quote: Uranus
    they care

    The thing is simple, to set up citizens against this operation. Look, they say how your Putin spends money, but he could raise pensions for grandmothers, etc.! Only they are past again, justice is important to a Russian person, and to him how much he will spend money for the sake of of this!
    1. VOLCHOXURAL
      VOLCHOXURAL 11 December 2015 20: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: 020205
      Only they are passing by again, justice is important for the Russian man, and he will care how much money he spends for this!
  • Homeland_SSSR
    Homeland_SSSR 11 December 2015 18: 58 New
    11
    We’ll figure it out ourselves. But in general, Our people are fighting in Syria for Us, here money is not the main thing ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 11 December 2015 19: 11 New
      +5
      Quote: Homeland_SSSR
      But in general, Our people are fighting in Syria for Us, here money is not the main thing ...

      Here you are wrong. Money is the same factor is not unimportant. And the fact that we are now spending on the operation in Syria 1/100 if not 1/1000 of the costs that we can incur if this operation, even on such a scale, is carried out against Daesh in our territory.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 11 December 2015 21: 02 New
        -4
        Already carried out. 2 Chechen. Only, only recovery results begin to appear.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 11 December 2015 21: 11 New
          +1
          Quote: dr.star75
          Already carried out. 2 Chechen. Only, only recovery results begin to appear.

          Speaking of Chechens, does anyone know what kind of uniform Kadyrov has?
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 11 December 2015 21: 49 New
            +2
            "Кстати о чеченцах, кто нибудь знает,что за форма у Кадырова?" - знаю. Сборная солянка фотошопа. Один ляп за другим.
  • raid14
    raid14 11 December 2015 19: 00 New
    +3
    Count, other people's money, they love the account. Then imagine how much the war with Russia will become for you, maybe sober up right away, or the toad will strangle you from greed.
  • Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 11 December 2015 19: 02 New
    0
    I certainly wouldn’t trust DAMA, but on the other hand, no matter how cynical it sounds, the operation may well cost the budget for combat training of troops at a certain stage of training.
    Хотя, не обессудьте, коллеги, верится в это с трудом. Трудно внести в статью расходов по Сирии мероприятия по испытанию новейших систем, это было бы нелогично, в следствии вероятных ошибок. Значит, по моему субъективному мнению, всё должно идти по статье "Боевая подготовка войск", что опять вызывает сомнения. Особенно это настораживает, услышав это из уст ДАМы, сущства никогда не отвечающего за свои слова. Это ни в коей мере ни умаляет действий наших Вооруженных сил в Сирии, но в очередной раз убеждает нас в неискренности наших руководителей по отношению к народу.
    The thought is subjective and does not pretend to be true, but I would like to hear real comments or opinions from opponents, and not just a dumb minus.
    I have the honor, Dear colleagues. hi
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 11 December 2015 19: 13 New
      -2
      Eck, you will ... easy to ask - what kind of gesheft do we have for investing our work and our own capital? hi
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    3. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 11 December 2015 19: 15 New
      +1
      Yes, yes, what is our gesheft? hi
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 11 December 2015 19: 26 New
        +5
        Gesheft is obvious. Qatar will not be able to lay a pipeline through Syria to Turkey and further to Europe, while Assad is in power. Thus, we cut off a potential competitor from our hydrocarbon market.
        1. atalef
          atalef 11 December 2015 20: 33 New
          -3
          Quote: Freeman
          Gesheft is obvious. Qatar will not be able to lay a pipeline through Syria to Turkey and further to Europe, while Assad is in power

          Why Assad is so resist this? wink
          Quote: Freeman
          Thus, we cut off a potential competitor from our hydrocarbon market.

          So Assad in Syria is fighting for Gazprom? belay
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 11 December 2015 21: 13 New
            -1
            "Так Асад в Сирии за Газпром воюет?" - Таки не смогли договориться по цене вопроса транзита. Катар своих припрег, Асад в другом месте крышанулся. Спор хозяйствующих субъектов?Кстати, ходят слухи, что если Асад падет, газопровод построит Катар, если Асад останется, газопровод построит Иран, если идет борьба, газопровод никто не строит. ГАЗПРОМ - достояние России!
          2. GSH-18
            GSH-18 11 December 2015 23: 14 New
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            So Assad in Syria is fighting for Gazprom? belay

            This is not Assad fighting. That we are fighting for our national interests, and for the loyal leader of Syria to us. Against its collapse and destruction.
            If not for us, now in Syria it would have been like in Libya.
      2. zennon
        zennon 11 December 2015 20: 52 New
        +3
        Цитата: Д-р Борменталь
        Yes, yes, what is our gesheft?

        Allow me to try. Putin has repeatedly said that several thousand of our citizens are fighting for Daesh in Syria. It’s much cheaper to fight with them than later to fight on our territory. Well, what, we again bomb Grozny as in the 90s? Plus excellent advertising of weapons. It’s one thing to show at air shows, and quite another in real work. I’m not an expert, but it’s obvious to me that for 120-150 sorties in 2 or a few months about 70 planes is not a bug sneezed! Our sworn friends again they scratched their turnips while looking at a map of Central Asia. But it’s so convenient for the Russian waters, but where the hell to draw the radii from there! Then, examining the columns of smoke from the TTD
        крылаток,вдруг появившихся из под воды над гладью родного средиземноморья.Знаете ли -это хо-о-о-орошее средство убеждения.Плюс политические дивиденды-одно дело ездить по салонам да языками часать,и совсем другое реально мочить "алов я в бар"!
        Well, something like this.
    4. CTEPX
      CTEPX 11 December 2015 20: 20 New
      -2
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      Believe Dame

      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      which again raises doubts

      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      convinces us of insincerity

      He piled)). How can one evaluate that which itself doubts?
    5. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 11 December 2015 22: 59 New
      -1
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      The thought is subjective and does not pretend to be true, but I would like to hear real comments or opinions from opponents, and not just a dumb minus.


      He seemed to be interested in opponents, but alas, except for the next dumb minus, he received nothing. But it’s a pity, the minus is not interesting, I’ve rarely been on the site to be interested in rating, but alas, apparently another regular exam, well done, and sorry, colleagues, I would like to see more serious people on the site. soldier
  • onix757
    onix757 11 December 2015 19: 02 New
    -3
    По моему скромному мнению, вся эта операция "по спасению Сирии" по плану должна была завершиться до НГ, но как обычно бывает, гладко было на бумаге...а тут еще деньги в стране кончаются. Так что они не из любопытства подсчитывают, а из прагматического интереса, сколько еще протянем
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 11 December 2015 19: 55 New
      +3
      How can money end in a country that buys 150 lard green bonds of the most probable opponent for oil and gas?
  • mamont5
    mamont5 11 December 2015 19: 03 New
    0
    Quote: Starover_Z
    As a result, the Royal Institute reports that on an annualized basis, Russia could spend $ 1 billion on the Syrian operation 3.

    What's the matter with the West? Let money count in their pockets.
  • 52
    52 11 December 2015 19: 03 New
    +1
    What is there, 3 billion? Just someone owes us the required amount, he- angry heh
  • Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 11 December 2015 19: 04 New
    +1
    We rummaged in another pocket again. Wow and arrogant Saxons tongue
  • Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 11 December 2015 19: 04 New
    +1
    3 mld. bucks? - pfff ..- just kakely give, more fun thing winked
  • 52
    52 11 December 2015 19: 05 New
    +1
    How many? 3 billion? Someone owes us the money, he- angry heh.
    1. atalef
      atalef 11 December 2015 20: 33 New
      -5
      Quote: 52gim
      How many? 3 billion? Someone owes us the money, heh-x

      Syria, 4- times as much laughing
  • bionik
    bionik 11 December 2015 19: 10 New
    0
    But borrowing other people's money in someone else’s pocket is not good !!!!!
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires 11 December 2015 19: 10 New
    +2
    This is bad money, count other people's money! angry
    1. family tree
      family tree 11 December 2015 19: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: AlexTires
      This is bad money, count other people's money! angry

      Can I send this message to our economic department? To the optimizers?
  • Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 11 December 2015 19: 12 New
    +2
    Our military combines military training with the solution of security issues. For these purposes, Russia spends public funds economically and effectively.
  • gg.na
    gg.na 11 December 2015 19: 17 New
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    Apparently, the Royal Institute is very fond of counting other people's money.
    Let yours count! What is the trouble for our money? What a strange habit of looking into a neighbor’s pocket and wallet! Who are they to count our money ?! Or did they decide to share the skin of a dead bear ??! wassat
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 11 December 2015 19: 18 New
    +5
    But less is spent on exercises? It’s better to use it better than training on fake targets (although it’s also useful). Besides, our Orthodoxy has left Syria, which means that money doesn’t matter anymore. . Only then will they respect us.
    1. atalef
      atalef 11 December 2015 20: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      .Besides, our Orthodoxy came out of Syria,

      You tear the pattern wink
      Orthodoxy from Syria? belay
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 11 December 2015 21: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        You tear the pattern
        Orthodoxy from Syria?


        Prince Vladimir was baptized in Khersones (Korsun) after taking him for 9 months of the siege. For this, the Byzantine kings Vasily and Konstantin gave their sister Anna to him as a wife.
        And where did this religion come to Korsun from Antioch. hi
      2. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 11 December 2015 21: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Orthodoxy from Syria?

        Here my question arose: something is wrong with our Orthodoxy, either the priests are lying, or the Byzantine Greeks called themselves Syrians.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 11 December 2015 21: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Алексей_К
          Here my question arose: something is wrong with our Orthodoxy, either the priests are lying, or the Byzantine Greeks called themselves Syrians.

          Everything with our Orthodoxy is so. In Chersonesos, where Vladimir was baptized, Christianity came from Antioch. By the way, a lot of Orthodox shrines are located in Damascus and in Homs and in other cities of Syria.
          Best regards hi
          1. atalef
            atalef 11 December 2015 22: 05 New
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            Quote: NEXUS
            Everything with our Orthodoxy is so. In Khersones, where Vladimir was baptized

            in Kherson belay
            And I thought in Kiev
            According to The Tale of Bygone Years, in 6496 from the creation of the world (that is, approximately in 988 CE) [28] the Prince of Kiev Vladimir Svyatoslavich decided to be baptized from the Church of Constantinople. After that, during the reign of Emperors Vasily II and Constantine VIII Bagryanorodny, sent by the Patriarch of Constantinople Nicholas II Khrisoverger, the clergy baptized Kiev people in the waters of the Dnieper and (or) Pochayna. According to the Russian annals of the Tale of Bygone Years, the prince during the baptism of his people offered the following prayer:

            “Great God, having created heaven and earth! See this new people and grant them, Lord, to lead You, the true God, as you lead Thy country of Christianity, and establish faith in them that is right and irrevocable, and Lord, help me, against the opposite enemy, and hope for You and Your power, I will run his wiles


            Quote: NEXUS
            Christianity came from Antioch

            You confuse me
            Orthodoxy (tracing-paper from the Greek. Ὀρθοδοξία - literally “correct judgment”, “correct teaching” or “correct praising” [1]) - a direction in Christianity that took shape in the east of the Roman Empire during the first millennium from the birth of Christ, under the leadership and under the main the role of the department of the bishop of Constantinople

            when suddenly interesting
            Misunderstandings began with Ukraine - and Vladimir immediately turned out to be baptized in Khersones
            The troops entered Syria - and right there it turns out Orthodoxy went from there laughing
            good
            In school history textbooks, only reliable estimates of specialists should be based on facts. At the same time, state interests must be taken into account. Russia, according to the Minister of Culture.

            РИА Новости http://ria.ru/society/20151119/1324267657.html#ixzz3u2a7F3Bg
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 11 December 2015 22: 17 New
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              in Kherson
              And I thought in Kiev

              Princess Byzantine Anna went to her fiancé in Korsun, and when she arrived there, the prince suddenly went blind. Vladimir began to doubt, and the wise girl explained that he was blind temporarily and solely so that the Lord would show him his indescribable glory.
              The prince was baptized by the bishop of Korsun. As soon as he laid his hand on the head of the prince and began to immerse him in the font, as Vladimir received his sight. “Now I have known the true God,” the prince exclaimed with joy. It will forever remain a mystery that was revealed to Vladimir at the time of baptism.

              Vladimir was baptized in Korsun (Khersones), and not in Kiev, as is commonly believed. hi
              In modern publications, there are opinions that Prince Vladimir could be baptized in Kiev.

              - This is impossible because the prince intended to marry the sister of the Byzantine emperor Anna, they could not let her out of the empire without a wedding. Otherwise, she would be considered one of the prince’s concubines. Therefore, the emperor and the Patriarch could let Anna go beyond the borders of the Byzantine Empire by his already legitimate wife. This means that the baptism of Prince Vladimir, and their wedding should have occurred on the territory of the Byzantine Empire, of which Khersones was a part. There was a Byzantine administration with military and customs structures.
              1. atalef
                atalef 11 December 2015 22: 20 New
                -1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: atalef
                in Kherson
                And I thought in Kiev

                Princess Byzantine Anna went to her fiancé in Korsun, and when she arrived there, the prince suddenly went blind. Vladimir began to doubt, and the wise girl explained that he was blind temporarily and solely so that the Lord would show him his indescribable glory.
                The prince was baptized by the bishop of Korsun. As soon as he laid his hand on the head of the prince and began to immerse him in the font, as Vladimir received his sight. “Now I have known the true God,” the prince exclaimed with joy. It will forever remain a mystery that was revealed to Vladimir at the time of baptism.

                Vladimir was baptized in Korsun (Khersones), and not in Kiev, as is commonly believed. hi
                In modern publications, there are opinions that Prince Vladimir could be baptized in Kiev.

                - This is impossible because the prince intended to marry the sister of the Byzantine emperor Anna, they could not let her out of the empire without a wedding. Otherwise, she would be considered one of the prince’s concubines. Therefore, the emperor and the Patriarch could let Anna go beyond the borders of the Byzantine Empire by his already legitimate wife. This means that the baptism of Prince Vladimir, and their wedding should have occurred on the territory of the Byzantine Empire, of which Khersones was a part. There was a Byzantine administration with military and customs structures.

                I believe yes
                indicate the source, preferably with the date of publication laughing
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 11 December 2015 22: 26 New
                  +2
                  Quote: atalef
                  indicate the source, preferably with the date of publication

                  Funny ... in the Tale of Bygone Years everything is there. And for familiarization with additional material, here is a link to an Orthodox resource. Http://www.pravoslavie.ru/3496.html
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 11 December 2015 22: 49 New
                    -1
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Quote: atalef
                    indicate the source, preferably with the date of publication

                    Funny ... in the Tale of Bygone Years everything is there. And for familiarization with additional material, here is a link to an Orthodox resource. Http://www.pravoslavie.ru/3496.html

                    really
                    Quote: atalef
                    According to The Tale of Bygone Years, in 6496 from the creation of the world (that is, approximately in 988 AD) [28] Prince of Kiev Vladimir Svyatoslavich decided to be baptized from the Church of Constantinople. Then, during the reign of Emperors Vasily II and Konstantin VIII Bagryanorodny, sent by the Patriarch of Constantinople Nicholas II Chryserberg, the clergy baptized Kiev people in the waters of the Dnieper and (or) Pochayna. According to the Russian annals of the Tale of Bygone Years, the prince during the baptism of his people offered the following prayer:

                    Or do you have your own story?
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    here is a link to an orthodox resource.http: //www.pravoslavie.ru/3496.html

                    This resource
                    Is a personal opinion
                    Orthodoxy. Ru (originally “Orthodoxy 2000” [1]) is an Orthodox informational Internet portal. Created and maintained on January 1, 2000 by the editors of the Internet projects of the Moscow Sretensky Monastery. The chief editor of the site is the governor of the monastery, Bishop Egorievsky Tikhon (Shevkunov).

                    And nothing more.
                    You tell me something academic, not a free translation from English into provincial.
                    Best regards hi
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 11 December 2015 22: 58 New
                      +4
                      Quote: atalef
                      Or do you have your own story?

                      You apparently do not read carefully. I spoke about the baptism of Prince Vladimir, and not of all Russia.
                      Here is an excerpt from the Tale of Bygone Years ..
                      Vladimir answered: "Let those who come with your sister and baptize me." And the kings obeyed, and sent their sister, dignitaries and elders. She didn’t want to go, saying: “I’m going as if it’s full, it would be better for me to die here.” And the brothers said to her: “Maybe God will turn the Russian land to repentance with you, and you can save the Greek land from a terrible war. Do you see how much evil Russia has done to the Greeks? Now, if you don’t go, they will do the same for us. ” And they barely forced her. She boarded the ship, said goodbye to her neighbors with weeping and went across the sea. And she came to Korsun, and the Korsuns came out to meet her with a bow, and brought her into the city, and put her in the chamber. By divine providence Vladimir was ill at that time with his eyes, and did not see anything, and mourned greatly, and did not know what to do. And the queen sent to him to say: “If you want to get rid of this disease, then be baptized as soon as possible; if you don’t get baptized, you cannot get rid of your ailment. ” Hearing this, Vladimir said: “If this is truly fulfilled, then truly great is the Christian God.” And he commanded himself to be baptized. The bishop of Korsun with the tsarina priests, having announced, baptized Vladimir. And when he laid his hand on him, he immediately received his sight. Vladimir, sensing his sudden healing, glorified God: "Now I have recognized the true God." Many of the warriors, having seen this, were baptized. He was baptized in the church of St. Basil, and that church stands in the city of Korsuni in the middle of the city where the Korsuns gather for bargaining; the chamber of Vladimir stands from the edge of the church to the present day, and the tsaritsyn’s chamber - at the altar. After baptism, they brought the queen to marry. Those who do not know the truth say that Vladimir was baptized in Kiev, while others say - in Vasilev, while others will say differently.
            2. NEXUS
              NEXUS 11 December 2015 23: 13 New
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              in Kherson

              Here is the confirmation of my words about inattentive reading of the post ... not in Kherson, but in Chersonese, in antiquity called Korsun.
          2. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 11 December 2015 22: 58 New
            -1
            Quote: NEXUS
            Everything with our Orthodoxy is so. In Chersonesos, where Vladimir was baptized, Christianity came from Antioch. By the way, a lot of Orthodox shrines are located in Damascus and in Homs and in other cities of Syria.
            Best regards

            The Orthodox Church considers the whole history of the united Church before the Great schism in 1054 and the advent of Catholicism as its history. Orthodox creed dates back to apostolic times, i.e. when the apostles of Christ lived and spread the Christian faith among other people.
            It turns out that Orthodoxy began with Jesus Christ, as the Orthodox Church claims. According to the Bible, it all began in the territory of Judea. What does Syria have to do with it?
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 11 December 2015 23: 04 New
              +1
              Quote: Алексей_К
              What does Syria have to do with it?

              It's simple, in Korsun (Chersonese) before Orthodoxy worshiped the Olympic gods, and Christianity came from Antioch. It was in Korsun that Prince Vladimir and all his squad were baptized. hi
              1. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K 11 December 2015 23: 15 New
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: Алексей_К
                What does Syria have to do with it?

                It's simple, in Korsun (Chersonese) before Orthodoxy worshiped the Olympic gods, and Christianity came from Antioch. It was in Korsun that Prince Vladimir and all his squad were baptized. hi

                Вы поговорите лучше с Батюшкой в ближайшей Церкви. И он Вам ответит. А ответ будет таким: Православие началось с Иисуса Христа и апостолов, а не с Херсонеса. И нет нашего и вашего православия. Православие едино, а все кто начинает нести ересь, становятся сектантами для "нашей" Православной Церкви.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 11 December 2015 23: 20 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Алексей_К
                  Вы поговорите лучше с Батюшкой в ближайшей Церкви. И он Вам ответит. А ответ будет таким: Православие началось с Иисуса Христа и апостолов, а не с Херсонеса. И нет нашего и вашего православия. Православие едино, а все кто начинает нести ересь, становятся сектантами для "нашей" Православной Церкви.

                  Are you talking nonsense again? Or you just decided to complain about words that don't really make you look too. I talked about BAPTISM OF PRINCE VLADIMIR, who later baptized Russia. And what’s the heresy here, dear?
                  In Korsun, where Vladimir was baptized, Christianity came from Antochia (Byzantine lands). This is also a well-known fact.
            2. atalef
              atalef 11 December 2015 23: 16 New
              -2
              Quote: Алексей_К
              It turns out that Orthodoxy began with Jesus Christ, as the Orthodox Church claims. According to the Bible, it all began in the territory of Judea. What does Syria have to do with it?

              This is a sacred theme for the next mess. When Putin wants Israel to annex laughing
              Quote: NEXUS
              It's simple, in Korsun (Chersonesus) before Orthodoxy worshiped the Olympic gods, and Christianity came from Antioch. It was in Korsun that Prince Vladimir and all his squad were baptized

              And the fact that he lived in Kiev does not bother you?
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 11 December 2015 23: 24 New
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                And the fact that he lived in Kiev does not bother you?

                And where is he living? He besieged the city of Korsun and took it after 9 months.
                And when the year passed, in 6496 (988), Vladimir went with an army to Korsun, the Greek city, and the Korsunians shut up in the city. And Vladimir stood on the other side of the city at the pier, in the distance of the arrow's flight from the city, and fought hard from the city. Vladimir besieged the city. People in the city became exhausted, and Vladimir said to the townspeople: “If you don’t give up, then it will be a mere three years.” They did not obey him, but Vladimir, having made his army, ordered to sprinkle the embankment to the city walls. And when they poured it, they, the Korsuns, digging up the city wall, stole the poured earth, and carried it to their city, and poured it in the middle of the city. The soldiers sprinkled even more, and Vladimir stood. And then a certain Korsunian husband, named Anastas, shot an arrow, writing on it: "Dig and take water, it goes through pipes from the wells that are behind you from the east." Vladimir, having heard about this, looked at the sky and said: “If this comes true, I am baptized myself!” And immediately he ordered to dig across the pipes and took over the water. People were exhausted from thirst and surrendered. Vladimir entered the city with his squad and sent to the kings Vasily and Konstantin to say: “Your glorious city has already taken; I heard that you have a sister damsel; if you don’t give her away for me, I will do the same for your capital as this city. ” And when the kings heard this, they were saddened, and sent him the following message: “It was not appropriate for Christians to marry wives to Gentiles. If you are baptized, you will receive it, and you will receive the kingdom of heaven, and you will be faithful with us. If you don’t do this, then we won’t be able to pass off your sister for you. ” Hearing this, Vladimir said to the kings who had been sent to him: “Tell your kings like this: I am baptized, for even before I have experienced your law and your faith and worship, about which the men sent by us told me,”. And the kings were glad to hear this, and begged their sister, by the name of Anna, and sent to Vladimir, saying: "Be baptized, and then we will send our sister to you."

                Excerpt from the Tale of Bygone Years.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 11 December 2015 23: 36 New
                  -1
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  And where is he living? He besieged the city of Korsun and took it after 9 months.


                  Not at all . I thought something. that Prince Vladimir, who lived and ruled in Kiev, has more to do with Kiev than with Korsun.
                  And then we will agree so that through Zhukov, Berlin has a sacred meaning for Russia, as Baghdad (for Schwarzkopf) in general - he took it the same laughing
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 11 December 2015 23: 41 New
                    +3
                    Quote: atalef
                    Not at all . I thought something. that Prince Vladimir, who lived and ruled in Kiev, has more to do with Kiev than with Korsun.
                    And then we will agree so that through Zhukov, Berlin has a sacred meaning for Russia, as Baghdad (for Schwarzkopf) in general - he took it the same

                    Prince Vladimir was baptized NOT IN KIEV, but in the city of Korsun (Khersones). You read the posts carefully, dear. Read the Tale of Bygone Years and understand, and here Korsun, for the baptism of Russia. Everything is readily available. I already have excerpts from the Tale provided temporary years, and you keep repeating about Kiev.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 12 December 2015 00: 00 New
                      -1
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Prince Vladimir was baptized NOT IN KIEV, but in the city of Korsun (Khersones)

                      So what ?
                      By the way, what was Korsun then?
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Read the Tale of Bygone Years and understand, and here Korsun, to the baptism of Russia.

                      You confuse me again, Kiev is Russia? wink
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      and you keep repeating about Kiev.

                      I don’t want to understand.
                      answer me a few questions
                      1.Korsun was whose (when there (suppose Vladimir was baptized)
                      2. Did he rule in Kiev? Kiev is Russia or Sotaki a little bit Ukraine 7
                      3 Russians were baptized in Kiev? Or maybe a little Ukrainians
                      4. if there were only Russians, then where did the Ukrainians come from then and how did they capture Kiev?
                      5. Why is the baptism of Rus never implied in the word (recently) - the baptism of Ukraine 9 although it seems like it was Kiev
                      And lastly - why is the baptism of Vladimir in Russia considered more their than Ukrainian?
                      Interesting your opinion
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 12 December 2015 00: 07 New
                        +3
                        Quote: atalef
                        1.Korsun was whose (when there (suppose Vladimir was baptized)

                        Byzantine (great ukrov was not there laughing )
                        Quote: atalef
                        2. Did he rule in Kiev? Kiev is Russia or Sotaki a little Ukraine

                        Kievan Rus
                        Quote: atalef
                        3 Russians were baptized in Kiev? Or maybe a little Ukrainians

                        Yes, there were no Ukrainians, Russians, etc. at that time ... there were Slavic lands with many principalities.
                        Quote: atalef
                        5. Why is the baptism of Rus never implied in the word (recently) - the baptism of Ukraine 9 although it seems like it was Kiev

                        The above answer. There were no Ukrainians ... there were Slavic peoples.
                        Quote: atalef
                        And lastly - why is the baptism of Vladimir in Russia considered more their than Ukrainian?

                        Because Prince Vladimir reigned in Kiev, which is one of the cities of Russia.
                        There was no Ukraine, but Kievan Rus was.
                      2. atalef
                        atalef 12 December 2015 00: 14 New
                        -1
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Byzantine

                        греческий
                        Russian-Byzantine war of 988 (capture of Korsuni) - siege and capture by the Kiev prince Vladimir of the Greek city of Korsun in Crimea in 988 or 989

                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Kievan Rus

                        Was Ukraine called that? Or did Moscow decide to pick up someone else's name?
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Yes, there were no Ukrainians, Russians, etc. at that time ... there were Slavic lands with many principalities

                        Do not understand . you said Kievan Rus and suddenly without Russian? wink
                        so who was Vladimir then?

                        Quote: NEXUS
                        The above answer. There were no Ukrainians ... there were Slavic peoples.

                        Ie the tribe from which Vladimir came was the ancestors of the Ukrainians?
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Because Prince Vladimir reigned in Kiev, which is one of the cities of Russia

                        And the capital of Russia. which city was it?
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        There was no Ukraine, but Kievan Rus was.

                        But was Russia?
                      3. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 12 December 2015 00: 21 New
                        +2
                        Quote: atalef
                        греческий

                        Quote: atalef
                        Was Ukraine called that? Or did Moscow decide to pick up someone else's name?

                        Quote: atalef
                        Do not understand . you said Kievan Rus and suddenly without Russian?
                        so who was Vladimir then?

                        Quote: atalef
                        Ie the tribe from which Vladimir came was the ancestors of the Ukrainians?

                        Quote: atalef
                        And the capital of Russia. which city was it?

                        Quote: atalef
                        But was Russia?

                        Sorry, you are playing the fool, as I understand it ... if you are so interested in the history of Kievan Rus, google to help you
                      4. atalef
                        atalef 12 December 2015 00: 48 New
                        -1
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Sorry, you are playing the fool, as I understand it ... if you are so interested in the history of Kievan Rus, google to help you

                        Am I a fool? I am quite seriously and knowing the story in general is not bad.
                        Khersones-Kherson-Korsun (depending on interpretation) - but at the time of the capture of Vladimir - was a Greek city
                        Ktev to the name of Russia. has no less relation than Moscow, and I would say more
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Yes, there were no Ukrainians, Russians, etc. at that time ... there were Slavic lands with many principalities.

                        Correctly and in Kievan Rus, Moscow did not enter then
                        maybe her first mention in the annals of 1147
                        etc.
                        So, whatever you may say, Vladimir baptized and baptized his subjects in Kiev - these are the ancestors of Ukrainians living in Kiev and the surrounding area
                        Am I wrong about something?
                      5. Russiamoy
                        Russiamoy 12 December 2015 20: 51 New
                        0
                        Yes. where are the Ukrainians? such is the nation and the concept when it appeared?
  • spy008
    spy008 11 December 2015 23: 24 New
    +6
    Add: monasticism originated in Syria. Such names as Isaac the Syrian, Ephraim the Syrian, every Orthodox Christian knows, if he is only truly a Christian, and does not consider himself as such. The Syrian desert totaled more than 10 thousand monks. There were a lot of monasteries. To know this, you do not need a theological education. It is enough to break away from the discussion and type in the search engine a request: Christianity in Syria.
    hi
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 11 December 2015 23: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: spy008
      Add: monasticism originated in Syria. Such names as Isaac the Syrian, Ephraim the Syrian, every Orthodox Christian knows, if he is only truly a Christian, and does not consider himself as such. The Syrian desert totaled more than 10 thousand monks. There were a lot of monasteries. To know this, you do not need a theological education. It is enough to break away from the discussion and type in the search engine a request: Christianity in Syria.
      hi

      That is how hi To you +.
      1. spy008
        spy008 11 December 2015 23: 41 New
        +2
        And you + hi - Russians do not give up!
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 11 December 2015 23: 45 New
          +4
          Quote: spy008
          And you + - the Russians do not give up!

          Yes, it’s difficult for people to type in the search engine a TALK OF TIME YEARS and read them. Kherson and Khersones are confused, and they read posts through words.
          1. spy008
            spy008 12 December 2015 00: 44 New
            +3
            Yes, these are provocateurs, always dissatisfied with everything, not capable of anything.
            Вы ж посмотрите : этот "бетман" - в каждой бочке затычка. Какой не возьмешь пост - везде эта летучая мышь !А очевидных вещей - не замечает, или не понимает, или сознательно провоцирует. Как он в Израиле очутился - ума не приложу ? Ведь евреи же умные люди !
            All the materials to which he refers are from enemy propaganda newspapers and magazines. Authorities are entirely Masonic.
            Блин, даже человек, имеющий среднее образование, и тот понимает, что Россия, вместо того, чтоб тратить золотовалютный резерв, когда рубль ползет вниз, наоборот его пополняет. Вся западная шушера в шоке, они ж для этого и нефть опускают, чтоб Россия сдулась и начала, как Украина, тратить свой золоторезерв, а этот "экономист", видит все шиворот на выворот.
            Hammer on him and do not answer at all - let him burst from powerlessness!
            1. atalef
              atalef 12 December 2015 00: 53 New
              0
              Quote: spy008
              Yes, these are provocateurs, always dissatisfied with everything, not capable of anything.
              Вы ж посмотрите : этот "бетман" - в каждой бочке затычка. Какой не возьмешь пост - везде эта летучая мышь

              already 5 years old laughing
              Quote: spy008
              How did he end up in Israel - I won’t know how? After all, Jews are smart people!

              Just do not tell a padded jacket laughing
              Quote: spy008
              Damn, even a person with a secondary education, and he understands that Russia, instead of spending the foreign exchange reserve when the ruble creeps down, on the contrary it replenishes

              What for ?
              Quote: spy008
              All western riffraff is in shock

              Spien speaks foreign languages? Does he watch CNN?
              Quote: spy008
              чтоб Россия сдулась и начала, как Украина, тратить свой золоторезерв, а этот "экономист", видит все шиворот на выворот.

              But not spending? wink
              Stirlitz?
              Quote: spy008
              Hammer on him and do not answer at all - let him burst from powerlessness!

              in scared laughing
          2. spy008
            spy008 12 December 2015 01: 08 New
            +2
            Sorry - are you me? So I didn’t write anything about Kherson or Khersones. And with geography, everything is in order with me: I live, one might say, between Sevastopol and Kherson - in Yevpatoriya.
            Did I upset you with something? or I did not understand what it was about?
            "Повесть временных лет" - тоже читал. И даже современные исследования на эту тему доводилось читать. "В повести", к стати, тоже есть немало неточностей, в виду недостаточной географической неосведомленности, как самого Св. Нестора летописца, так и вообще людей того времени.
            And indeed, on the side of me, where did Kievan Rus come from. I am very sad that they turned it into right now.
      2. atalef
        atalef 11 December 2015 23: 42 New
        -1
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: spy008
        Add: monasticism originated in Syria. Such names as Isaac the Syrian, Ephraim the Syrian, every Orthodox Christian knows, if he is only truly a Christian, and does not consider himself as such. The Syrian desert totaled more than 10 thousand monks. There were a lot of monasteries. To know this, you do not need a theological education. It is enough to break away from the discussion and type in the search engine a request: Christianity in Syria.
        hi

        That is how hi To you +.

        Minus it is not hi (though I didn’t set a minus laughing )
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 11 December 2015 23: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          Minus, it’s not (though I didn’t set a minus)

          Yes, Alexey_K puts for you here. Don’t worry. It's not a tricky thing. fellow
    2. atalef
      atalef 11 December 2015 23: 39 New
      -3
      Quote: spy008
      Add: monasticism originated in Syria

      Specify what monasticism?
      hi
      Hermit was developed under the influence of Anthony the Great and Hilarion. The founder of another form of monasticism, sociable, or cinematic, is considered Pachomius the Great. In Upper Egypt, in Tabenna, around 340, a monastery arose according to the charter of Pachomius, which quickly spread throughout the Christian world. With this charter, the monks lived in separate cells (1-3 monks per cell). Initially, the monasteries did not have a definite relationship to the church hierarchy, then they began to put priests from among the monks for worship in the monastery. Among the monasteries of Tabenna, at the initiative of Pachomius, a sister monastery was founded by his sister. In the East, the founder of communal monasticism was Theodosius the Great, who founded the first cinnamon in the vicinity of Bethlehem; it adopted the charter of Basil the Great, which is milder than the charter of Pachomius.

      and if you write about monasticism. then specify - Christian. Further - this is definitely not in Syria.
      1. spy008
        spy008 11 December 2015 23: 52 New
        +3
        Извините пожалуйста ! Вы заражены духом противления и гордости "слыша - не слышите, видя - не видите" (надеюсь - знаете откуда эта цитата), поэтому дискутировать с Вами нет смысла.
        To argue and prove their case is the destiny of the weak!
        I just could not, like a Christian, pass by when the saints insult the feelings for everyone who believes in Christ.
        And now - I wash my hands.
        End of communication.
  • dr.star75
    dr.star75 11 December 2015 22: 00 New
    0
    Рвану шаблон дальше!Древний Иерусалим - это Царь-град, Константинополь, Стамбул. А еврей, это иммигрировавший итальянец. (Журнал "сцентикс", результаты генетических исследований: итальянцы и евреи рода ашкенази имеют минимальные различия.)
    1. atalef
      atalef 11 December 2015 22: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: dr.star75
      The torn pattern is farther! Ancient Jerusalem is Tsar-grad, Constantinople, Istanbul

      I like it good
      Quote: dr.star75
      And a Jew, this is an immigrant Italian

      Warmer good
      Now I have historical rights to Turkey and Italy good
      Thank you good man hi
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 11 December 2015 23: 05 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Warmer
        Now I have historical rights to Turkey and Italy
        Thank you good man

        In my opinion, our Russian readers at VO were completely stunned by the victories in Syria, and I think that they dream of joining Syria to Russia and its history by Russifying, by joining part of Turkey to Russia as well, and how else to get into the Russian Republic of Syria. Everyone is so eager for a war that does not exist yet that they began to distort the biblical story.
        1. atalef
          atalef 11 December 2015 23: 12 New
          -1
          Quote: Алексей_К
          In my opinion, our Russian readers at VO were completely stunned by the victories in Syria

          Yes, Aleksey, something like everyone was blown away by victories in Novorossi
          Quote: Алексей_К
          and I think that they dream of joining Syria to Russia and its history Russification, by joining part of Turkey also to Russia, and how else to get into the Russian Republic of Syria.

          In general, here the DLNR is being asked, but for some reason they want Syria request
          Quote: Алексей_К
          Everyone is so eager for war

          Yes, some already managed to get the marshals on the sofas, tearing their vocal cords and erasing their fingers on the keyboard - in screams. neither hold me, now I’ll run away to (New Russia. Syria. Kurdistan).
          Quote: Алексей_К
          that already the biblical story began to distort.

          Well, how without it, but what about the theme of sacredness?
        2. spy008
          spy008 11 December 2015 23: 37 New
          +3
          Alexei ! You have such a smart face on the avatar, and you carry such nonsense! I wrote above, and I repeat again: break away from the discussion and type in a search engine: Christianity in Syria; and you yourself will be ashamed of your ignorance. Or are you a Jew, too, and the very mention of Christ enrages you, like those Pharisees and Sadducees who crucified Him? - then no questions!
        3. dr.star75
          dr.star75 11 December 2015 23: 52 New
          0
          You have a little respect for colleagues in VO. Most people know that we cannot win there. Our task there is: to delay the beginning of the war with the aim of rearmament as much as possible. If you misunderstand this? then you are worthless.
        4. dr.star75
          dr.star75 12 December 2015 00: 13 New
          0
          Alexey K. Do not need to consider VO readers complete degenerates. If their opinion does not coincide with yours, this does not mean that it is erroneous. You must be more modest ...
      2. dr.star75
        dr.star75 11 December 2015 23: 42 New
        0
        Юридические вопросы данной проблемы я не рассматриваю, "Теперь у меня есть исторические права на Турцию и Италию " если сможете доказать -то какие проблемы?Ещё раз повторяю: есть какие то вопросы к журналу "сцентикс" про евреев и итальянцев?
        1. atalef
          atalef 11 December 2015 23: 47 New
          0
          Quote: dr.star75
          Юридические вопросы данной проблемы я не рассматриваю, "Теперь у меня есть исторические права на Турцию и Италию " если сможете доказать -то какие проблемы?

          What for ? You do not mind, this is enough for me

          Quote: dr.star75
          Ещё раз повторяю: есть какие то вопросы к журналу "сцентикс" про евреев и итальянцев?

          No, I'm for !!!!
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 11 December 2015 23: 56 New
            0
            Well, if you do not mind, decide where you have Jerusalem
            1. atalef
              atalef 12 December 2015 00: 33 New
              0
              Quote: dr.star75
              Well, if you do not mind, decide where you have Jerusalem

              Here, 135 km from me to the southwest.
          2. avva2012
            avva2012 11 December 2015 23: 58 New
            0
            No, I'm for !!!!
            And what, have the Italians done you bad?
            1. atalef
              atalef 12 December 2015 00: 34 New
              -1
              Quote: avva2012
              No, I'm for !!!!
              And what, have the Italians done you bad?

              They supported the sanctions against Russia. wassat
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 12 December 2015 00: 41 New
                0
                Ah, you, what side here? fellow
                1. atalef
                  atalef 12 December 2015 00: 55 New
                  -1
                  Quote: avva2012
                  Ah, you, what side here? fellow

                  To sanctions? No, I was in Italy, there the cheeses became cheaper - from an oversupply, probably, now only Belarus is buying parmesan laughing
                  1. avva2012
                    avva2012 12 December 2015 01: 06 New
                    +1
                    And I, I thought for Russia the soul hurts? And, then, it turns out different, after a free cheese, a bo-bo belly? laughing
                  2. atalef
                    atalef 12 December 2015 01: 14 New
                    -1
                    Quote: avva2012
                    And I, I thought for Russia the soul hurts?

                    Why should she be sick? are you OK .
                    Enough to read the comments, then jealous fit.
                    Quote: avva2012
                    And, then, it turns out different, after a free cheese, a bo-bo belly?

                    Not free, but cheaper, there is a difference.
                    if before it cost 35-40 euros KG, now it’s 25-30.
                    trifle. but nice
                    By the way, about the abdomen - not a big bo yes
                  3. avva2012
                    avva2012 12 December 2015 01: 23 New
                    0
                    Glad for you, that's not a big deal. And, if you envy, maybe, well, let him come to us. belay
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                  5. atalef
                    atalef 12 December 2015 01: 26 New
                    0
                    Quote: avva2012
                    Glad for you, that's not a big deal. And, if you envy, maybe, well, let him come to us. belay


                    Thank you, you are better to us hi
                  6. avva2012
                    avva2012 12 December 2015 01: 32 New
                    0
                    Then get the horseradish out. I have many relatives. And, all to you. drinks
                  7. atalef
                    atalef 12 December 2015 01: 40 New
                    0
                    Quote: avva2012
                    Then get the horseradish out. I have many relatives. And, all to you.

                    Yes, the evening ceases to be languid, when I go to sleep and eat the last pieces of cheese. otherwise you’ll come - no sleep. there will be no cheese.
                    It was nice to chat. Good night, good luck hi
                  8. avva2012
                    avva2012 12 December 2015 01: 45 New
                    0
                    Mutually. Got a lot of fun. See you again Good night. hi
  • dr.star75
    dr.star75 12 December 2015 00: 15 New
    0
    Show your rights to Turkey in accordance with the law.
    1. atalef
      atalef 12 December 2015 00: 56 New
      0
      Quote: dr.star75
      Show your rights to Turkey in accordance with the law.

      Yes . fuck us Turkey, we already rule the world. good
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  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 11 December 2015 19: 25 New
    +1
    If you do not spend this money now, on a foreign side, then you will have to spend tens of times more, but already on your own Earth, and with a lot of human victims ... sad
  • Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 11 December 2015 19: 25 New
    +1
    Let them not hope, they also have enough money, if that.
  • Gunther
    Gunther 11 December 2015 19: 26 New
    0
    These British scientists from the Royal Institute, seemingly decided to help the bulk in his excavations, this cupcake clearly does not cope with the amount of work.
  • Dr dron
    Dr dron 11 December 2015 19: 28 New
    +1
    All these British calculations are aimed at the fifth leg (oh, column :) in our country. So that the groaning of the type began, so if this money was paid to teachers and doctors, etc. etc.
  • Zenitchik
    Zenitchik 11 December 2015 19: 32 New
    -2
    Oil is already $ 38,68 ... I wonder how we will get down from the raw needle?
    1. uge.garik
      uge.garik 11 December 2015 20: 00 New
      +4
      ... how the chervonets oil will cost - the needle itself will fall off ...
    2. _my opinion
      _my opinion 11 December 2015 20: 35 New
      0
      how much% do oil revenues occupy in the Russian budget? and how many other countries that live mainly due to the sale of oil? and for whom does the low oil price hit harder? and more questions: Do you live in Russia? (you don’t have a flag) and why are you so worried about us? you heart with us ali gave the wrong flag to you?
      ... minus is not mine ....
      1. Zenitchik
        Zenitchik 12 December 2015 00: 18 New
        0
        А я не говорю что мы не можем не чего кроме нефть продавать.Просто из-за внешнеуправляемого статуса нашей страны,мы даже на 10% своего экономического потенциала не используем.А со всякими Медведями,Набиулиными,Улюкаевыми в правительстве-так и будет...Радует только что Володя пока на троне.Во внешней политике "благодаря ему"-булки наши пока крепко сжаты!
    3. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx 11 December 2015 21: 36 New
      -3
      quietly, there is a celebration of victory over igil, do not bother :)
    4. dr.star75
      dr.star75 11 December 2015 21: 40 New
      -1
      How much oil cost in 1941? And in 1945?
  • Zenitchik
    Zenitchik 11 December 2015 19: 35 New
    0
    like, yes, if this money were for teachers and doctors, etc. etc.

    This is already a topic for discussion in liberal shows. And in real life, humanitarian aid goes to Donbass at times more expensive :)
    1. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx 11 December 2015 21: 37 New
      0
      Now it has become shameful to discuss education science and medicine? - Well, well
  • gla172
    gla172 11 December 2015 19: 36 New
    0
    Quote: svp67
    In general, counting other people's money is a thankless task.


    And where are you comrade Have you seen the people involved in this area noble and grateful?
  • Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 11 December 2015 19: 40 New
    +1
    The state security of Russia cannot be appreciated in money! soldier
    1. zennon
      zennon 11 December 2015 19: 45 New
      0
      Quote: Robert Nevsky
      The state security of Russia cannot be appreciated in money! soldier

      Why? It can and should. This is the same item of expenditure as health care or agricultural support. Another thing is that you can’t regret them for safety.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 11 December 2015 22: 33 New
        +1
        And what kind of expense item do you like for mom? Do you fit into the budget? or take a loan?
  • Dr dron
    Dr dron 11 December 2015 19: 44 New
    0
    Quote: Zenitchik
    like, yes, if this money were for teachers and doctors, etc. etc.

    This is already a topic for discussion in liberal shows. And in real life, humanitarian aid goes to Donbass at times more expensive :)

    -1 and you and me. The liberal show has begun :))))
  • AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 11 December 2015 19: 50 New
    +1
    Interestingly, the destroyed monuments of history and culture in Syria and Iraq as a result of the entry of foreign troops into Iran and all that came of it, how much do they cost? How looted? Who counted this money? Or what got into the British and French museums from the Middle East, should everything be free? It is not good for someone else to consider oh how bad the gentlemen are the British and others.
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 11 December 2015 19: 56 New
      +2
      This is considered alien in the Anglo-Saxons in the blood and at the gene level.
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  • Infernal man
    Infernal man 11 December 2015 19: 51 New
    0
    Western bookkeepers probably do not realize that a huge amount of ammunition (in such a huge country like ours) has a banal expiration date.
    So, of course, the state bears expenses, but obviously not on the scale that I would like ;-)
    Ну а мы тем временем "освежим" свои стратегические запасы.Перевооружение идет полным ходом. Я удовлетворен.
  • Belarus
    Belarus 11 December 2015 19: 55 New
    +4
    In my opinion, all these calculations of other people's money have a different side. For example, this calculation is intended to undermine the population’s confidence in GDP. Not everything is good in the country, something is being cut in the budget, something is being cut, and then such money is being spent on the anti-terrorist operation.
    I repeat, this publication is designed to undermine the credibility of the authorities in the country and personally to undermine the credibility of the president. We will soon hear the howls of liberals on this topic and advice on what to do, or rather, how Russia should not do it. If liberals howl, then Russia is doing the right thing.
  • LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 11 December 2015 19: 56 New
    +2
    Да-а, если эти чувачки за нашу сирийскую бухгалтерию взялись- это более чем серьёзно. Что-то замышляют (или уже замыслили), издалека заходят. Может, какой каверзный ленд-лиз? Один шоколадный заяц уже порвал нашу экономику в клочья, теперь эти. И вот почему так? Хочется написать про них что-то хорошее, доброе, светлое, а в мыслях -пустота. Рука не поднимается. Сколько столетий мы видели от них обман, предательство, интриги. Потому и веры им нету у нас, везде надо искать подвох. Что-то затевают через эти подсчёты. Как говорил Винни-Пух: "Это вжжжи-неспроста".
  • uge.garik
    uge.garik 11 December 2015 19: 56 New
    0
    Given the testing of new types of systems and weapons, combat experience, the planned disposal of warheads by the expiration date and destruction of the enemy not on their territory ... - well, very expensive ... for those interested ...
  • Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 11 December 2015 19: 57 New
    -2
    Quote: Tor5
    Do not count money in another's pocket.
    The fact is that it is important for the citizens of Russia (not prosecutors, non-security officials and non-bureaucrats with huge and stable sn) to calculate the money, especially in terms of reducing social spending.

    Quote: Denis Obukhov
    Yes, everything is easier. Spends not Russia, and Syria. We got a military base on the Mediterranean. So, most likely, the cost of a military operation of the Ministry of Defense generally refers to the rent for the base.
    And the importance of a base on the Mediterranean Sea, both for trade and for security, cannot be overestimated.
    The base in Syria does not bear any value for the economy of the Russian Federation at all, only expenses. Or are we, having an economy in 30 once weaker than the American, will we try to hegemonic again and try to compete with them?

    Quote: 020205
    Only they are passing by again, justice is important for the Russian man, and he will care how much money he spends for this!
    Yah ? Do not speak for all citizens of Russia! If you personally do not care - then pay. And it is important for me that my children receive normal free medical care (and they are thrown out of the hospital, arguing that there are no funds and the hospital beds and funding are reduced, and I have to save all the savings for their health) !!!!!

    Цитата: Dr Dron
    All these British calculations are aimed at the fifth leg (oh, column :) in our country. So that the groaning of the type began, so if this money was paid to teachers and doctors, etc. etc.
    Sorry, war in general is an expensive thing. And in the economy flying into the abyss - to engage in war - the last thing that does not speak about the aspirations of our government really is to take care of the interests of the people.
    1. IAlex
      IAlex 11 December 2015 20: 25 New
      -1
      The base in Syria will bring income if pipelines are not laid through Iraq and Syria ... But at the moment, this idea has already died out and is unpromising ...
    2. unsinkable
      unsinkable 11 December 2015 20: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Warrior2015
      take care of the interests of the people.

      Dear, you are talking about Thomas, and YOU are talking about Yeryoma again. Is it really not clear to you that if we lose and give in to our Western * partners * then there will be nobody to take care of the people, our children, social programs, etc. .. We will all * cares * about the American people, that is, walking in lackeys. Not * warrior * You are my friend.
  • IAlex
    IAlex 11 December 2015 19: 59 New
    +1
    They do it right, they feel a scientific and accounting approach to the problem. Now they will calculate the costs and figure out how many bucks it is necessary to lower the oil price so that this self-sufficiency ceases from a lack of dough and the Russian economy breaks ...

    However, they did not take into account that this was only 3 billion dollars, which does not matter much more or less, because in the Russian Federation no one has been interested in such copecks for a long time except state employees, as a result, they simply will not throw hay over the mark.
  • moskowit
    moskowit 11 December 2015 20: 01 New
    0
    The accountants are bad !!!
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 11 December 2015 20: 02 New
    +1
    Let your IQ count. Spiritually underdeveloped. Spoiled pancake Friday mood am ( ВО не виновато ). Придется для равновесия "Неформат с М.Задорновым" на " Юмор ФМ " глянуть..Кто не в курсе - рекомендую.
  • zekaze1980
    zekaze1980 11 December 2015 20: 10 New
    +1
    Now the maximum pressure on the Russian economy has begun. In the next half year, all possible measures will be taken to destabilize the country.
    If they (the West) fail to fulfill their plans, and they fail, everything will fall into place.
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 11 December 2015 20: 14 New
    +2
    Quote: AIR-ZNAK
    historical and cultural monuments in Syria and Iraq

    And in Russia, what are the bureaucrats doing? The Roerich Museum Sobyanin drives out into the street! And everybody cares, the earth however - kickbacks ... And they collected signatures and filed petitions, but he doesn’t care - he’ll put a helmet on the next construction site and reports everything is OK in Moscow sad
    And History, as always, is in last place. Przhevalsky was even lucky; the horse-mare was named. And N. Roerich is so-so .. Although he went three times more in Mongolia, Altai, the Himalayas. And the Church painted it stand in Russia.
    1. spy008
      spy008 11 December 2015 20: 41 New
      +3
      Sorry, but did you see these murals? I - saw, in Smolensk - sheer blasphemy!
      Д и из-за творчества Рерихов - добрая часть человечества Ререхнутых. Чего стоят перлы Е. Рерих "когда колесница направлена ко спасению - возница не отвечает за раздавленных червей" - это о нас - "не просвещенных" их учением. Искусство искусству рознь. Одно искусство созидает, другое разрушает.
      "посеешь ветер - пожнешь бурю"
      Sorry, of course, if I distorted someone's subtle nature!
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      2. Barakuda
        Barakuda 11 December 2015 22: 07 New
        -2
        Чего стоят перлы Е. Рерих "когда колесница направлена ко спасению - возница не отвечает за раздавленных червей" - это о нас - "не просвещенных" их учением.

        Жаль ,что не читали - "Живая этика", там три тома..плюс "грани.." А Н.К. Рериха уверен труды в букве вообще не видели. И незачем цитаты выдерать ..
        with such success - the Slovens were monkeys - the great Cyril uttered - you root GDP, beat your head on the floor, before Christ came.
    2. spy008
      spy008 11 December 2015 20: 48 New
      +3
      Yes, and another: 1 dollar, with all the Masonic symbols depicted on it - this is also the work of Konstantin Roerich, for a minute.
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 11 December 2015 22: 12 New
        -2
        Never N.K. Roerich before this did not fall. there is no place for this. But you will forgive - a short-sighted ignoramus.
        1. spy008
          spy008 12 December 2015 00: 15 New
          +4
          THIS IS YOUR TEXT, AND BELOW LINK:
          Учение Рерихов - это религиозная секта не только не совместимая с христианством, но и прямо ему враждебная. Чтобы убедиться в этом, достаточно ознакомиться с некоторыми постулатами их учения: "Когда колесница направлена ко благу, то возница не отвечает за раздавленных червей". Е. Рерих уточняет: "Конечно, изречение о колеснице оставьте для себя, иначе много соблазна может произойти..." О чем здесь идет речь? Здесь утверждается возможность убийства в целях, выгодных для распространения этой секты. Еще один пример: "Фундаментальные трактаты живой этики допускают необходимость убийства во имя торжества своих идеалов". (Трактат "Община" с. 146)
          http://planeta.moy.su/blog/elena_i_nikolaj_rerikhi_tochka_zrenija_pravoslavija/2
          013-09-27-64561
          I say well: type in a search engine - you don’t even need to tear your ass off the chair!
          And about Roerich Constantine, if you work hard, you can easily read.
          Well, and who of us is ignorant ???
          Now look like a moron because of your tenacity.
          End of communication.
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 12 December 2015 00: 20 New
            0
            Well, Roerich, as if he had nothing to do with Christianity. There is nothing to argue about. A brilliant artist, it would be better if he did this.
            1. Barakuda
              Barakuda 12 December 2015 00: 45 New
              0
              Well, where are you going? They didn’t read anything that He wrote ... It has a relation to Christianity. And very clear. He doesn’t have books, but you haven’t read one. The question is, why did he write Faces of Saints.
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 12 December 2015 00: 54 New
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                Dear, well, excuse me, to Christianity, what this relation has. Faces of saints, anyone does not write. Icons are painted, with the blessing of the priest, after fasting, prayer, communion. I don’t argue that N.K. Roerich was a genius. And I’m not trying to assure you of anything. There are just certain canons. Well, you can’t do an operation, without washing your hands, at least you’re a genius. So it is with the soul. Beautiful, does not mean that it comes from God. Maybe just from the person himself. And, a place for this in an art gallery, under the protection of the state, as the property of the country, but not in the Temple.
          2. Barakuda
            Barakuda 12 December 2015 00: 37 New
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            You can put the link yourself you know where. DO NOT READ, and you can not judge.
            1. spy008
              spy008 13 December 2015 09: 25 New
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              Спасибо за совет - разворачивайтесь ! Тогда уже, как близкие люди, перейдем на "ты".
              In the meantime, as a cultured person - if you please.
  • From Samara
    From Samara 11 December 2015 20: 18 New
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    Unfortunately, this conflict was imposed on us early. Russia is not quite ready yet ...
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 11 December 2015 20: 30 New
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      Quote: From Samara
      Unfortunately, this conflict was imposed on us early. Russia is not quite ready yet ...

      Neighbour! Conflicts never imposed on us in time!
      Unfortunately, but this is a fact ...
      1. From Samara
        From Samara 11 December 2015 20: 37 New
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        Here read: http://interpolit.ru/blog/ehskadra_na_mertvykh_jakorjakh/2015-12-11-6174
  • pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 11 December 2015 20: 20 New
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    The Saudis and Kuwaitis spend much more on this circus. Although maybe if certain people from these nationalities suddenly rushed to meet with Allah, the situation around Syria would become much easier. But this is all a subjunctive mood, so you will have to spend bombs and wind the hours for equipment.
  • Dr dron
    Dr dron 11 December 2015 20: 21 New
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    Quote: Warrior2015

    Цитата: Dr Dron
    All these British calculations are aimed at the fifth leg (oh, column :) in our country. So that the groaning of the type began, so if this money was paid to teachers and doctors, etc. etc.
    Sorry, war in general is an expensive thing. And in the economy flying into the abyss - to engage in war - the last thing that does not speak about the aspirations of our government really is to take care of the interests of the people.

    It seems to me that you are either a messenger or simply offended at everything and everyone!
    In recent years, thanks to my government, I get public services without leaving my office on the Internet. My children are accepted and treated in good clinics of my country without any problems. I see improvements in my city and my yard, as well as myself participating in this! I see how vile muzzles from behind the window try to destroy my country and people like you contribute to this! And I am glad that the armed forces of my country protect and defend my interests Beyond my immense, because the instruments of diplomacy and economics no longer work in such conditions.
  • BOB044
    BOB044 11 December 2015 20: 22 New
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    And how much money the London Royal Institute spent. To calculate how much Russia spends on an operation in Syria.
    1. atalef
      atalef 11 December 2015 20: 45 New
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      Quote: BOB044
      And how much money the London Royal Institute spent. To calculate how much Russia spends on an operation in Syria.

      not much more than all Russian institutions proving that America will die tomorrow, and the world economy, with 80 bucks for oil, will collapse. hi
  • spy008
    spy008 11 December 2015 20: 23 New
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    Guys ! And someone drew attention to a nearby article:
    DEC. 11. Russia bought 12 tons of gold per day
    I think - this information will be more important for the Russians!
    And these, as they are better called, ANAL-politicians - let themselves be poor, consider it.
    I heartily congratulate you, dear Russians! 15 tons of ginger - is it cool?
    1. atalef
      atalef 11 December 2015 20: 42 New
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      Quote: spy008
      you guys! And someone drew attention to a nearby article:
      DEC. 11. Russia bought 12 tons of gold per day

      and how did this affect the stability of the ruble?
      Quote: spy008
      I think - this information will be more important for the Russians!

      What?
      Quote: spy008
      And these, as they are better called, ANAL-politicians - let themselves be poor, consider it.
      I heartily congratulate you, dear Russians! 15 tons of ginger - is it cool?

      Well, first of all - 12. You wrote it yourself, but what’s the steepness?
      1. spy008
        spy008 11 December 2015 21: 57 New
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        Maybe you are not from Israel, since you do not know the price of gold? what
        1. atalef
          atalef 11 December 2015 22: 08 New
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          Quote: spy008
          Maybe you are not from Israel, since you do not know the price of gold? what

          That’s why I laugh. laughing
          how much is one ton of gold. The current price is now 33,731,636 US dollars.

          Russia in July increased the volume of investments in securities of the US government up to $ 81,7 billion. Such data are contained in the released on September 16 US Treasury Department's next monthly report on other states investing cash in US government bonds.

          what did you say there?
          Quote: spy008
          DEC. 11. Russia bought 12 tons of gold per day
          I think - this information will be more important for the Russians!
          And these, as they are better called, ANAL-politicians - let themselves be poor, consider it.
          I heartily congratulate you, dear Russians. !

          My congratulations hi
  • _my opinion
    _my opinion 11 December 2015 20: 26 New
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    In the West, decided to count how much Russia spends on the Syrian operation

    ага ,а сейчас ждём вопли :"это огромные же деньжищи, это сколько же садиков можно построить,
    сколько пенсий выплатить".
    1. atalef
      atalef 11 December 2015 20: 46 New
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      Quote: _my opinion
      In the West, decided to count how much Russia spends on the Syrian operation

      ага ,а сейчас ждём вопли :"это огромные же деньжищи, это сколько же садиков можно построить,
      сколько пенсий выплатить".

      3 billion retired?
      What for ? Pensioners are happy with everything.
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 11 December 2015 21: 14 New
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        Да, не всё так "гладко" в родном королевстве..., но как раз-то пенсионеры, скорее предпочтут now "потуже" затянуть пояса, что бы потом не оказаться под "столом" у "благодетелей"... sad, видите ли, жизненный опыт побогаче, чем у молодых, которым 5-колонна, умело "пудрит" мозги...
        1. atalef
          atalef 11 December 2015 21: 28 New
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          Quote: ia-ai00
          Да, не всё так "гладко" в родном королевстве..., но как раз-то пенсионеры, скорее предпочтут сейчас "потуже" затянуть пояса, что бы потом не оказаться под "столом" у "благодетелей

          And which countries have already appeared, well, under the table?
          1. ia-ai00
            ia-ai00 11 December 2015 21: 54 New
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            А Вы прям не в "курсе"... request
            Ask, say, pensioners in Ukraine.
            Все страны, где подсуетились "голуби" из-за океана, получили хаос, разруху, гражданские войны, а уж о пенсиях в этих странах спрашивать... - так это будет похоже на издёвку.
            ИГил - детище "благодетелей", и очень хочется, что бы они все, скопом, вместе с теми, кто их "породил", оказались в одной "жаровне". am
            USA and Russia Longing for помочь с "правами"... и у ГОСДЕПа, с 5-колонной России, прямо таки "душа изболелась", о Российских пенсионерах. crying
      2. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 11 December 2015 22: 39 New
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        Quote: atalef
        3 billion retired?
        What for ? Pensioners are happy with everything.

        Уважаемый "atalef"! Большинство читателей представления не имеют об экономике и пишут всякую ахинею о нехватке каких-то денег на войну. Я изучал экономику в институте и знал её на отлично. Мне даже преподаватель на экзамене не поверила, она так и сказала - Вы списали всё. Она начала задавать мне вопросы и я около часа ей отвечал и писал всякие формулы на её дополнительные вопросы. Она была изумлена, тем что встретила студента, знающего экономику.
        So about the costs of the war. If weapons are not purchased from another state, then practically all weapons are worthless, because This is the internal turnover of monetary resources. How much money is needed to pay those who participate in the creation of weapons, starting with miners and grain growers, they will pay so much. All people constantly buy something and all the money is returned to the bank again. Even those that are on deposits participate in this cycle. The bank again pays all its salaries and expenses, and again people return absolutely all the money to the bank. Question! And where does the bank get the money? Answer: prints in the right amount for the continuous circulation of cash in our economy.
        Another thing is if the money goes to the West and something is bought in the West in the same place. These are not repayments anymore, as The West on all currency transactions takes interest from us plus profit for its own enrichment.
        Так что вся разговоры о каких-то огромных расходах на войну - болтовня не грамотных россиян и "экспертов" от экономики.
        And an example is fascist Germany, which was arming itself with the 1933 and for some reason did not suffer an economic collapse, before defeating it. And an example is the Soviet Union, which 4 fought back from the Nazis for almost a year, produced practically nothing but weapons and for some reason the economy did not collapse, even with such enormous casualties and at the same time several million able-bodied people were constantly present at the front.
        Domestic money circulation does not have any effect on government spending on the war. Just the amount of money rotating in the domestic market should not exceed the entire salary of all working people in the country. And minerals, water, air, bread and animals, etc. - Nature is given to us free of charge and these sources are renewable.
      3. padded jacket
        padded jacket 11 December 2015 22: 50 New
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        Quote: atalef
        What for ? Pensioners are happy with everything.

        Oh, how atalef likes to engage in our monetary policy, but as you say about the plight of the Israelis, it’s anti-Semitism right away lol
        Every fifth Israeli family lives below the poverty line
        Last year, 18,8% of Israeli families lived below the poverty line, which is 0,2% more than the previous year. These are 444.900 families consisting of 1,7 million people, 776.500 of which are children.
        In addition, the poverty level has increased significantly among elderly families from 1% to 23%, that is, almost every fourth elderly family lives below the poverty line.
        "в 2003 Нетаниягу сделал нищими целые слои израильского общества – в том числе, нанес экономический удар и по многим репатриантам из стран СНГ - и повторил этот же трюк в 2013. "Его кредо – "свинский капитализм" за счет беднейших слоев населения.
        http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/busines1/2015/12/09/kazhdaya-pyataya-izrailskaya-se
        mya-zhivet-za-chertoy-bednosti /
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  • kotev19
    kotev19 11 December 2015 20: 29 New
    +1
    And how much does the USA spend Look here and draw conclusions in peace!
    https://www.nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/
  • Bosk
    Bosk 11 December 2015 20: 35 New
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    Не ну Медведев конечно прикололся..., как там на самом деле я не знаю но для западного лектората это новость крышу снесёт, не ну действительно получается что венным выделили деньги, а вот дальше "как хошь так и крутись" и вооружение закупай..., зарплату плати...,воюй... А на предмет того сколько стоит?...-любая война на чужой территории обходится дешевле чем на своей!