In the West, decided to count how much Russia spends on the Syrian operation

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Information Agency Bloomberg decided to publish the data of the so-called Royal United Institute of Defense Studies. Apparently, the royal institute is very fond of counting other people's money, and then presents its own calculations regarding how much Russia was spending on the operation in Syria this year, and how much it will spend next.

In the West, decided to count how much Russia spends on the Syrian operation


Representatives of the London Institute report that Russia initially spent about 4 million dollars daily on conducting an antiterrorist operation in Syria, and since mid-November the amount of expenses has doubled and, accordingly, has reached a value of 8 million dollars. As a result, the royal institute reports, on an annualized basis, Russia may spend a billion dollars on a Syrian operation 3.

Recall that the day before, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev stated that the Russian Defense Ministry did not apply for additional funds. Earlier, it was stated that the costs of the operation in Syria fit into the expenses of the country's main defense department, and, for example, one day of a Syrian counter-terrorist operation costs the budget twice as much as one day of military exercises. At the same time, however, the Ministry of Defense did not specify what scale exercises are meant.

When counting the money that Russia spends on an operation in Syria, Western experts for some reason do not ask how Russia can help in the fight against terrorism, but present information in such a way as if they calculate how long the Russian potentials run out from the start of such an operation defense budget ...
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    1. +5
      11 December 2015 18: 57
      As a result, the Royal Institute reports that on an annualized basis, Russia could spend $ 1 billion on the Syrian operation 3.

      Or maybe they decided to throw their money ?! wink A joke!

      We agree!
      1. +49
        11 December 2015 19: 16
        The Russian Armed Forces in the near future can get the first prototypes of the latest S-500 anti-aircraft missile system,
        1. Tor5
          +7
          11 December 2015 19: 24
          This is news, so news! Worth it! Do not count money in someone else's pocket.
          1. +40
            11 December 2015 19: 37
            Counting begins ... hi Then they will begin to bring down the economy and as "predicted by Khodorkovsky and Berezovsky, Trotsky, etc.) The revolution in Russia ... The dream of all of them! Heh heh .. And then, rob, rob, and rob ... Standard template! hi But all this does not suit Russia ... And we will take everything and punish us!
            1. +6
              11 December 2015 20: 01
              Let them consider health, if you subtract the costs of testing, disposal and training, it’s just that on the surface, then the amounts will be of a different nature and of course it is beneficial to us.
              1. +8
                11 December 2015 20: 38
                Or can they evaluate the effectiveness of cash? Compare finances, dates, number of departures and the number of destroyed goals of the vaunted coalition and our aviation.
                1. -9
                  11 December 2015 20: 48
                  Quote: Stock Officer
                  Or can they evaluate the effectiveness of cash? Compare finances, dates, number of departures and the number of destroyed goals of the vaunted coalition and our aviation.

                  But why?
                  1. +17
                    11 December 2015 21: 43
                    Quote: atalef
                    Or can they evaluate the effectiveness of cash? Compare finances, dates, number of departures and the number of destroyed goals of the vaunted coalition and our aviation.

                    But why?

                    Really, why? This is fawn. The real proof of your own sludge. lol
                    So it is better to consider other people's money in your favor.
                    1. -6
                      11 December 2015 21: 46
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      Quote: atalef
                      Or can they evaluate the effectiveness of cash? Compare finances, dates, number of departures and the number of destroyed goals of the vaunted coalition and our aviation.

                      But why?

                      Really, why? This is fawn. The real proof of your own sludge. lol
                      So it is better to consider other people's money in your favor.

                      Well, Bloomberg does not consider it in anyone's favor - it's just Inform.agency.
                      Then we can talk about ratings only by the final result.
                      hi
                      1. +14
                        11 December 2015 22: 00
                        Quote: atalef
                        Well, Bloomberg does not consider it in anyone's favor - it's just Inform.agency.

                        Hehe, I would have your confidence ..
                        Quote: atalef
                        Then we can talk about ratings only by the end result.

                        Do you know what the final result will be?
                        Tady in a nutshell: Already, Assad’s army has liberated more than 200 settlements since the beginning of the Russian Aerospace Forces operation and continues to do this every day. When the victory (liberation of the territory of Syria) is close, there will be no end to those who want to help. Well, in order to get into Syria. And in a year all amerosmi will blow about the next victory of amerodemocracy over world evil. The same scenario was tested in World War II. In order not to let the USSR show who is the boss in Europe. For the sake of justice, it is worth noting that we already did not need their military assistance at this stage. Our warriors had to be rescued from the Nazis, so that they would not be dropped back into the sea! Helpers ..
                      2. -19
                        11 December 2015 22: 50
                        Don't you know about the Second World War? There, the entire europpa is sitting in payments for half a percent, which went to the continent to the "fellers" earlier. If you are a real Indian, you have nothing to fear :-). But the yuan will not hurt you ... :-)
                        So, damn it, on this forum the words - "FAMILY", "BASEL", "Fuckers from a French family who scare the islands" are considered forbidden ... Even in the best houses of LANDON, hours and minutes are not sold ...
                      3. -18
                        11 December 2015 23: 29
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Do you know what the final result will be?

                        I know Assad will leave
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Tady in a nutshell: Already, Assad’s army has liberated more than 200 settlements since the beginning of the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces and continues to do so every day

                        Does Shoigu know about this?
                        Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said on December 11 that the Islamic State terrorist organization has recently intensified, and today controls about 70% of Syria.

                        Sergei Shoigu said this during a meeting of the extended board of the Ministry of Defense with the participation of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

                        I think you hear the name F. Klintsevich for the first time, and you certainly won’t take it to the liberals
                        "The operation will last at least a year," said Franz Klintsevich, deputy chairman of the defense committee in the upper house of parliament. "I expected more from the Syrian army."

                        Quote: GSH-18
                        And in a year all amerosmi will blow about the next victory of amerodemocracy over world evil. The same scenario was tested in World War II. In order not to let the USSR show who is the boss in Europe.

                        Well, yes, deGoll, beloved in Russia. After spending the whole war in London, he later appeared in Paris with 1500 soldiers and received the laurels of the country of the winner in the Second World War and a place in the Soviet Union. laughing
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        For the sake of justice, it is worth noting that we didn’t need their military assistance at this stage already

                        Well, do not - so do not. request
                        It’s all the same to me
                      4. +9
                        11 December 2015 23: 42
                        Quote: atalef
                        I know Assad will leave

                        Assad in Syria loves and respects the people and if they do not kill him (and this is possible) he will be elected more than once.
                      5. -21
                        11 December 2015 23: 48
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Assad in Syria loves and respects the people and if they do not kill him

                        Strangled in a hug laughing
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        he will be elected more than once.

                        Yes . Who would doubt that.
                      6. +10
                        12 December 2015 00: 02
                        Quote: atalef
                        I know Assad will leave

                        Too lazy to comment on everything. I will only comment on this, and I think this will be quite enough.
                        Assad will not go anywhere until WE let him go. I think it’s worth all of our Western partners to cut themselves on the nose.
                      7. +8
                        12 December 2015 01: 09
                        When Russia is done, Assad will automatically be victorious in the "Syrian Patriotic War," so that he will not only be elected president of Syria, he will also be erected a monument during his lifetime.
                      8. +4
                        12 December 2015 01: 40
                        Until the demolition of the head of the financial and militaristic top, the chaos on Earth will continue. It is necessary for these creatures to tear off something, so that in general such things will never be born again and then our Planet will calmly breathe, and Peace will reign. Zadolbal already these villains of all the inhabitants of the Earth. It’s time to end these ... mattes, ... bergas and other soulless substance, and not drag on for a long time. It is worth chopping off the head of this scum, then all the rest of their litter will scatter and hammer in holes to die there, and the frenzied thugs will bang each other. ISIS (Daesh) will not last after this week.
                      9. +4
                        11 December 2015 22: 03
                        Dear atalef, are you aware that your Air Force can take part in of joint with the Russian Aerospace Forces combat strikes on Daesh in Syria? Today, the news was. Our warriors agree ...
                      10. -6
                        11 December 2015 23: 34
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Dear atalef, do you know that your Air Force can take part in joint combat strikes against the Daesh in Syria with the Russian Air Force?

                        Nope, I don’t think so.
                        Why do we need this?
                        You vseravno all win, no help in the Second World War. and now even more so. Then you can still say that we cling to the great victory.
                        No, all your laurels.
                        We will calmly continue cooperation in the same volume. Moreover, the General Staff of the Russian Federation is quite pleased with this
                      11. +12
                        11 December 2015 23: 49
                        Quote: atalef
                        You will defeat all the people, you didn’t need help

                        And that Israel fought in the Second World War? lol
                        The storyteller you atalef you yourself raised these terrorugs and sent to Syria with an eye on Russia.
                        Quote: atalef
                        We will calmly continue cooperation in the same volume.

                        With terrorists smile
                        Israel treats Assad's opponents
                        The Israeli armed forces are in constant contact with Syrian militants who are fighting against the regime of Bashar al-Assad. This is stated in the UN report, cited by the Israeli publication Haaretz. Some of these militants may be associated with Islamic State terrorists. According to the Haaretz newspaper, contact information between IDF officers and Syrian Free Army militants is published in a report by UN observers who monitor the situation in the Golan Heights. Observers testify that contacts with representatives of the armed Syrian opposition at the border began last year after the radicalization of the conflict in Syria.
                        http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2014/12/07_a_6332201.shtml
                      12. -15
                        12 December 2015 00: 26
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        And that Israel fought in the Second World War?

                        Not . it's about his other post that the USSR did not need help from anyone. to win the Second World War

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        The storyteller you atalef you yourself raised these terrorugs and sent to Syria with an eye on Russia.

                        Strange, you know that. but the General Staff of the Russian Federation - probably not.
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Israel treats Assad's opponents
                        Israeli forces are in constant contact with Syrian militants fighting the Bashar al-Assad regime

                        We also taught Russia this.
                        ЧAsti armed Syrian opposition take part in attack on Islamist militants

                        This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin, speaking at an expanded meeting of the board of the Ministry of Defense.

                        "I would like to emphasize that the work of our air group contributes to uniting the efforts of both government forces and the Free Syrian Army. Now several of its units with a total number of over 5 thousand people, like regular troops, are conducting offensive operations against terrorists in the provinces of Homs. Hama, Alep and Cancer, "the Russian president said.

                        and what remains to be done. Iranians are running
                        Iran is curtailing its participation in the war with the Islamic State militants in Syria. Bloobmerg reported this with reference to US military sources.

                        According to them, the Iranian authorities have dramatically reduced the number of their elite units in Syria after serious casualties in the fighting in the vicinity of Idlib. As noted, just this week the Iranians lost several high-ranking commanders of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards, and in November near Aleppo, the commander of the Al-Quds (Jerusalem) special forces, Major General Qasem Suleimani, was incapacitated for a long time.

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Observers testify that contacts with representatives of the armed Syrian opposition at the border began last year after the radicalization of the conflict in Syria.

                        You see, we cantacted9 2 years ago), and the Russian aerospace forces are already fighting with the SSA.
                        Foresight laughing
                      13. +5
                        12 December 2015 00: 54
                        Quote: atalef
                        Not . it's about his other post that the USSR did not need help from anyone. to win the Second World War

                        Clearly, the comments are arranged, so sometimes it’s hard to figure out who said what.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Strange, you know that. but the General Staff of the Russian Federation - probably not.

                        They know this perfectly well only while there were no commands to offend Israel.
                        Quote: atalef
                        We also taught Russia this.

                        What was the purpose of treating terrorists from Al-Nusra’s al-Qaeda branch of Israel?
                        we are forced to cooperate with the so-called SSA and even then not all.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Iranians are running

                        But apart from references to Bloomberg, is there nothing?
                        Quote: atalef
                        You see, we cantacted9 2 years ago), and the Russian aerospace forces are already fighting with the SSA.

                        You are in contact with Al-Nusra and she is not like the CCA.
                        Although the SSA also respects you very much smile
                        Syrian opposition congratulated Israelis on Independence Day
                        The opposition organization "Free People of Syria" sent a telegram to the Israeli leadership on Thursday, in which it expressed hope to celebrate the next Independence Day at the Israeli Embassy in Damascus.
                        http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/04/23/siriyskaya-oppoziciya-pozdravil
                        a-izrailtyan-s-dnem-nezavisimosti /
                      14. -7
                        12 December 2015 01: 03
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        They know this perfectly well only while there were no commands to offend Israel.

                        Well, when it will be - then we'll talk laughing
                        In the meantime, we are Hezbollah again. well, bombing. T nothing the Russian Aerospace Forces help us a lot in this
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        What was the purpose of treating terrorists from Al-Nusra’s al-Qaeda branch of Israel?
                        we are forced to cooperate with the so-called SSA and even then not all.

                        And we recruited them and they are now in the SSA.
                        Why is it necessary? Hezbollah and the IRGC fled crying , of course, for lack of stamp - we write in simple

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        But apart from references to Bloomberg, is there nothing?

                        Do you have anything to refute?
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Although the SSA also respects you very much
                        Syrian opposition congratulated Israelis on Independence Day

                        Well, right, the Russian Federation respects it the same. Yes, Putin said this. Assad certainly doesn’t like it, but what can you do - if you can’t do anything yourself
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        in which she hoped to celebrate the next Independence Day at the Israeli embassy in Damascus.

                        Yes, our embassy will not be far from the Russian one.
                      15. +6
                        12 December 2015 01: 21
                        Quote: atalef
                        We are Hezbollah again. well, bombing.

                        Apparently this happens exclusively in the dreams of your generals lol
                        Quote: atalef
                        And we recruited them and they are now in the SSA.

                        Nonsense, why do you need to turn them over to the control center of all terrorists in the region, and so is in Israel laughing
                        Quote: atalef
                        Hezbollah and the IRGC fled

                        Forgot to add according to the message of the agency - Bloomberg lol
                        Quote: atalef
                        Do you have anything to refute?

                        Why nonsense to refute with him, and so everything is clear.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Well, right, the Russian Federation respects it the same. Yes, Putin said this. Assad certainly doesn’t like it, but what can you do - if you can’t do anything yourself

                        No, everything is much simpler now, with the help of some units of the FSA, the "black" Al-Nusra and Daesh will be destroyed and then the SAA will destroy the "green", that is, the FSA.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Yes, our embassy will not be far from the Russian

                        Your embassy is now unlikely to be in Syria at all if only after Israel is divided into Israel and Palestine proper with the general approval of the Jewish population of your country.
                      16. -7
                        12 December 2015 01: 34
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Apparently this happens exclusively in the dreams of your generals

                        Well, you will always refute wink , and with reference to Al Manar or another Hezbollah resource. Come on padded jacket. Expose the lie laughing
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Runda Why do you need to turn them over the control center of all terrorists in the region and so is in Israel

                        No, we recruited them for Russia and now they are fighting together with the videoconferencing
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Forgot to add according to the message of the agency - Bloomberg

                        Well, you’ll give a reference refuting this statement, well, Vatnik? how is it with arabic or farsi?
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Why nonsense to refute with him, and so everything is clear.

                        Of course it is clear that you are just yap (nothing that I like you, in my own way)

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        No, everything is much simpler now, with the help of some units of the FSA, the "black" Al-Nusra and Daesh will be destroyed and then the SAA will destroy the "green", that is, the FSA.

                        If you don’t listen, then everything is later or tomorrow - only tomorrow something doesn’t come laughing
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Your embassy is now unlikely to be in Syria

                        Well, to hell with him, same to me happiness
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        if only after Israel is divided into proper Israel and Palestine with the general approval of the Jewish population of your country.

                        I am for. Gas - gas. west coast - west coast.
                      17. +5
                        12 December 2015 01: 57
                        Quote: atalef
                        Al Manar or some other Hezbollah resource.

                        Hezbollah will not lie, it's not you.
                        Quote: atalef
                        No, we recruited them for Russia and now they are fighting together with the videoconferencing

                        Once again with Al-Nusra we do not fight together, we destroy it on the contrary.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Well, you’ll give a reference refuting this statement, well, Vatnik? how is it with arabic or farsi?

                        Denial of the fact that they are leaving Syria? So no one will simply refute this harm, as a pure lie.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Of course it’s clear that you are just yap

                        I can now give you a bunch of messages that Israel helps and finances terrorism, refute for example this:
                        On the way to “Greater Israel”: ISIS ringleader is Mossad’s full-time agent Shimon Elliot
                        So, independent sources in the summer of 2014 reported that the real name of “Caliph Al-Baghdadi” - the head of ISIS (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant) - Simon Elliot (Eliot Shimon), he was born from two Jewish parents and is an agent of Mossad.
                        http://communitarian.ru/novosti/politika/na_puti_k_velikomu_izrailyu_glavar_igil

                        _yavlyaetsya_shtatnym_agentom_mossada_saymonom_eliotom_13012015 /
                        Quote: atalef
                        If you don’t listen, then everything is later or tomorrow - only tomorrow something doesn’t come

                        In-in Jews in Germany also thought so when they were warned that there would be a Holocaust and they did not believe, and then it came tomorrow.
                        Quote: atalef
                        I am for. Gas - gas. west coast - west coast.

                        It’s logical to drive the Jews exclusively to Judea, let them live there lol
                      18. 0
                        12 December 2015 04: 37
                        I say they are Romanians (ebrey) wassat film BROTHER if that)))
                      19. +1
                        12 December 2015 00: 11
                        Quote: atalef
                        Nope, I don’t think so.
                        Why do we need this?
                        You will defeat all the people, you didn’t need help

                        C'mon, don't pretend to be offended. All the same, no one will believe lol In the Second World War, I really needed help! Stalin requested the opening of a second front almost from the first days of the war! And at the end of the war, it was no longer necessary, but the victory was divided up, helpers ..
                        Farther.
                        Quote: atalef
                        We will calmly continue cooperation in the same volume. Moreover, the General Staff of the Russian Federation is quite pleased with this

                        Not a true statement! We NOW call everyone to beat DAISH. Now! By the fact that then we will not let freeloaders into Syria. Chingachgook does not step twice in a row on a mop hi
                      20. -6
                        12 December 2015 01: 08
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        about the fact that then we will not let freeloaders into Syria. Chingachgook does not step twice in a row on a mop

                        Yes and no, we have enough hi
                        Who else 6 years ago could have thought. what
                        1. There will be no nichrome left from Syria
                        2. All chemical weapons will be withdrawn from it.
                        3. Palestinians will fight against al-Assad
                        4. All countries of the world (interested) + Russia will fight against bandits in Syria
                        5. The Russian Federation will beat the pots with Turkey and tapping her nose, shortening Erdogan’s ambitions
                        6. The Russian Air Force and Air Defense will coordinate their activities with the IDF
                        7. The Russian group will in no way prevent us from bombing Hezbollah and its convoys
                        DREAM !!!!!!!
                      21. -13
                        11 December 2015 22: 41
                        Come on, between From, they beat, with the nameplates to the fellerof, there is a mess - the blood will be washed away. The question is why our people fit in. When the printing press is arguing with the Gods ...
                    2. +3
                      11 December 2015 22: 08
                      I don’t understand what difference does it make for Americans, how much do we spend in dollars?

                      Although rockets and bombs have a dollar price tag, they are produced for rubles.
                      And they are produced in our factories.
                      And these are jobs, government orders, training.
                      They did it themselves, delivered it on their own fuel, on their planes with their pilots - all the money is spinning inside our economic system, which means that it does not disappear.

                      Well, if there were no Syria, the cruiser Moskva would have been mothballed? No, most likely similar amounts would be spent on its maintenance and operation. Now he will be replaced by "Varyag", to undergo training in conditions close to combat.
                      Aircraft would also have to carry out planned flights and would burn as much aviation kerosene - they would only fly somewhere along the borders in Europe.
                      And bombs and missiles would either be decommissioned and disposed of, or would be shot in the ground during exercises.
                      Of course, we are spending something on logistics - but these are scanty amounts compared to what our liberals are shouting about.

                      Maybe I’ll say an even more terrible thing, but ... we can continue this operation, in principle, endlessly, while the budget of the Defense Ministry manages on its own - the only question is the intensity of the bombing, because obviously we will not have time to produce cruise missiles at a dozen a day.
                      1. +2
                        11 December 2015 22: 35
                        Quote: Darkmor
                        obviously we will not have time to produce cruise missiles at a dozen a day.

                        Why did you get this ??? belay Do you think they are riveted in the garage at Uncle Vasya’s per month? lol
                      2. +5
                        11 December 2015 23: 17
                        The fact is that we spend much less, and the effect is 10 times more and this infuriates them.
                      3. +4
                        11 December 2015 23: 28
                        Quote: Gadzilla
                        The fact is that we spend much less, and the effect is 10 times more and this infuriates them.

                        Right. This "amerocoalition" had the task of creating the appearance of a fight against ISIS, and on the sly of reshaping the geopolitics in the region for itself. And then the Russians came and showed (or rather unceremoniously poked their muzzle at this very thing) to the whole world who hu is and how to properly wet cockroaches from DAISH.
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            3. +8
              11 December 2015 21: 07
              Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
              Counting begins ...

              Well, it's natural. For countries such as the United States, Europe, Israel, there is nothing more interesting than the amount of dollars, euros or shekels in your pocket for them the concept of selfless help is something wild since their entire existence precludes any action without appropriate payment.
              1. +3
                11 December 2015 21: 12
                Iran supplied the Syrian army MLRS own production 122 mm MLM HM20 and most likely they only lit up.

                1. -8
                  11 December 2015 21: 25
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Iran supplied the Syrian army MLRS own production 122 mm MLM HM20 and most likely they only lit up

                  Quince wink
                  Iran is withdrawing fighters from elite corps ’guards of the Islamic Revolution from the war zone in Syria because of too high casualties, Bloomberg news agency reported.

                  Bloomberg cites data from US and Western military sources. According to this information, having lost many IRGC fighters and commanders, including generals, in battles on the territory of Syria, Iran decided to reduce its direct participation in hostilities.

                  In October, American sources cited data according to which from two to seven thousand Iranian guards could fight in Syria. Recently, no more than 700 Iranians have been fighting on the side of the Syrian government forces, while others have been withdrawn from the country.
                  We will remind, recently, the Iranian opposition said that Major General Qasem Soleimani, the commander of the Al-Quds unit, one of the leaders of military operations in Syria, was very seriously wounded near Aleppo.

                  In addition, it was reported that the morale of Iranian fighters was undermined by high losses, and several generals refused to fight in Syria, for which they appeared before the tribunal.
                  1. +6
                    11 December 2015 22: 19
                    Quote: atalef
                    Iran is withdrawing fighters from elite corps ’guards of the Islamic Revolution from the war zone in Syria because of too high casualties, Bloomberg news agency reported.


                    Of course, of course, Bloomberg again lol
                    You probably only have tales from RBC, the Echo of Moscow, or are you listening to Bloomberg?
                    1. -5
                      11 December 2015 22: 22
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      You probably only have tales from RBC, the Echo of Moscow, or are you listening to Bloomberg?

                      Not yet from you. Yes
                      By the way, you somehow did not respond to the message that Iran was withdrawing the IRGC from Syria.
                      What do your Shia relatives say about this?
                      1. +1
                        11 December 2015 22: 30
                        Quote: atalef
                        Not yet from you.

                        I always tell the truth based on facts mainly from your own Israeli press.
                        Quote: atalef
                        By the way, you somehow did not respond to the message that Iran was withdrawing the IRGC from Syria.

                        And what is there to comment on a message from the Bloomberg agency as always is another tale for individuals like you lol
                      2. -1
                        11 December 2015 22: 51
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        I always tell the truth based on facts mainly from your own Israeli press

                        Of course the truth, and nothing but the truth laughing
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        And what is there to comment on a message from the Bloomberg agency as always is another tale for individuals like you

                        This is the same from our press. wink
                      3. +2
                        11 December 2015 23: 01
                        Quote: atalef
                        Bloomberg

                        Bloomberg is more likely your press laughing
                      4. -3
                        11 December 2015 23: 07
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Quote: atalef
                        Bloomberg

                        Bloomberg is more likely your press laughing

                        but what about this? wink
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        I always tell the truth based on facts mainly from your own Israeli press.

                        Quince good
                      5. +4
                        11 December 2015 23: 17
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quince

                        And why are you surprised I am writing, then I mainly for you and our users so that you, as always, do not "cloud" their brains with your lies and rely on your resources and not on the resources of other countries.
                        If I relied on the publication of Russian resources, I would have long been banned there so much truth about you, but unfortunately it will be regarded as "malicious anti-Semitism."
                        And I meant your Bloomberg resource as Western anti-Russian.
                      6. +2
                        11 December 2015 22: 41
                        I don’t know what to answer, comrade padded jacketbut I have a version. For Iran, sending the IRGC to Syria is not easy to get into another state. Iran, as it were officially, is the only religious state. And helping fellow believers is not an empty phrase for them. Therefore, I do not believe in the message of this agency. Especially in the fact that the generals refused, and they were sent to court. If that were the case, they would have been stoned. Blue., Like him, comes from the psychology of a tolerant society. And, what is "help to fellow believers", then you can remember how many volunteers went to "save brothers" in the Russian-Turkish war.
                      7. +1
                        11 December 2015 22: 59
                        Quote: avva2012
                        I don’t know what he will answer, comrade quilted jacket, but I have a version. For Iran, sending the IRGC to Syria is not just getting into another state. Iran, as if officially, is the only religious state. And helping fellow believers is not an empty phrase for them.

                        Yes, this is nothing Iran is fighting in Syria from the very beginning of the aggression of international terrorism against this country, and its losses never frightened, for example, in the Iran-Iraq war, it lost almost a million people.
                        And now he understands perfectly well that if they do not destroy the terrorists, they will go against him and he has the same situation as in our country, either to destroy the bandits at distant approaches or then fight them but on the territory of his country.
                      8. 0
                        11 December 2015 23: 05
                        Yes, this is nothing Iran is fighting in Syria from the very beginning of the aggression of international terrorism against this country
                        Nonsense in terms of withdrawal, or that they help Shiites, like co-religionists? I wonder, the Iranians belong to the ayatollah, how do we relate to V.V. Putin? I didn’t set the minus.
                      9. +2
                        12 December 2015 00: 02
                        Quote: avva2012
                        Nonsense in terms of withdrawal, or that they help Shiites, like co-religionists?

                        Rather, there are not so many Alawites and Shiites in Syria as believers and as allies, and Assad and his authority are also supported by a fairly large number of Sunnis, including the Palestinians living in Syria after the occupation of their country by Israel.
                        Quote: avva2012
                        I wonder, the Iranians belong to the ayatollah, how do we relate to V.V. Putin?

                        I can’t say this. I don’t live in Iran.
                      10. 0
                        12 December 2015 00: 05
                        Well, there's nothing to argue about.
                        and Palestinians living in Syria after the occupation of their country by Israel.
                        Without a stone in the garden of Atalefu, no way? hi
                      11. 0
                        12 December 2015 00: 18
                        Quote: avva2012
                        Without a stone in the garden of Atalefu, no way?

                        What does any stone have to do with this?
                        For a long time, the well-known state of Palestine has long been recognized by approximately 130 states out of 200 existing in the world.
                      12. 0
                        12 December 2015 00: 23
                        Yes, I'm not serious. I read your correspondence, sincerely enjoy it. Serious on the site a dime a dozen, got it. Sincerely! wink
                      13. -5
                        12 December 2015 00: 31
                        Quote: avva2012
                        and Palestinians living in Syria after the occupation of their country by Israel.
                        Without a stone in the garden of Atalefu, nor how

                        Well, Vatnik, as always, doesn’t finish
                        There are Palestinians, who in Syria are up to half a million.
                        Palestinians in the Syrian conflict are perceived as Sunni Arabs and perceive themselves as such. Therefore, naturally, they are fighting against Assad, and Assad is fighting against them. The largest Palestinian refugee camp in Syria, Yarmouk, located in the vicinity of Damascus, is bombed continuously. All Palestinian organizations fighting against Israel left Syria. And the Palestinians themselves are fighting against the Assad regime in the most active way.

                        The most wonderful situation for us. Palestinians and Assad troops are felling each other, and we, as always, wish success to both sides laughing
                      14. -1
                        11 December 2015 23: 18
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Yes, this is nothing Iran is fighting in Syria from the very beginning of the aggression of international terrorism against this country, and its losses never frightened, for example, in the Iran-Iraq war, it lost almost a million people.

                        Of course, they only fought for their country
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        And now he understands perfectly well that if they do not destroy the terrorists, they will go against him and he has the same situation as in our country, either to destroy the bandits at distant approaches or then fight them but on the territory of his country.

                        figured it out myself ? or can you confirm something?
                        wink
                      15. +2
                        11 December 2015 23: 32
                        Quote: atalef
                        Of course, they only fought for their country

                        So what? Their co-religionists live in Syria, besides Iran is known as an implacable fighter against terrorism, as well as Hezbollah.
                        Quote: atalef
                        figured it out myself ? or can you confirm something?

                        You are talking nonsense again, I always said that we should help Syria defeat terrorism in the country far from our borders, otherwise it will grow there and go to us in Russia, Iraq, Iran and it will be possible to lead them from the USA and Israel.
                      16. -1
                        11 December 2015 23: 52
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        So what? Their co-religionists live in Syria, besides Iran known as an implacable fighter against terrorism, however, like Hezbollah.

                        Well, they are fighting these co-religionists against ---- co-religionists laughing
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        You are talking nonsense again, I always said that we should help Syria defeat terrorism in the country far from our borders, otherwise it will grow there and go to us in Russia, Iraq, Iran and it will be possible to lead them from the USA and Israel.

                        Interesting in the General Staff of the Russian Federation (do they know about Israel?)
                        And then enlighten. It may be better for them to cooperate with Hezbollah, otherwise we bombed again 3 days ago, with full understanding of the Russian Aerospace Forces
                        Respectfully, as always laughing
                      17. +3
                        12 December 2015 00: 11
                        Quote: atalef
                        Well, they are fighting these co-religionists against ---- co-religionists

                        Are you distorting again?
                        Currents in one faith have always fought, for example, Catholics against Protestants and those and other Christians, but after all, there were many such examples.
                        This is why the Jews "do not like" no one Christians are not Muslims are not Buddhists everywhere on the planet there is anti-simetism.
                        Can you tell me why atalef?
                        Quote: atalef
                        And then enlighten. It may be better for them to cooperate with Hezbollah, otherwise we bombed again 3 days ago, with full understanding of the Russian Aerospace Forces
                        Respectfully, as always

                        Again, according to Bloomberg, or did the London Observatory for Human Rights excel? lol
                        The storytellers are again trying, at least with the help of a lie, to give themselves greatness and weight laughing
              2. +6
                11 December 2015 21: 19
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Well, it's natural. For countries such as the United States, Europe, Israel, there is nothing more interesting than the amount of dollars, euros or shekels in your pocket for them the concept of selfless help is something wild since their entire existence precludes any action without appropriate payment.

                Longnose Bloombergs. We have our own polite accounting.
              3. -1
                11 December 2015 21: 26
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Israel is nothing more interesting than the amount of dollars, euros or shekels in your pocket

                In fairness, they don’t break money in their pocket, and the safety of the population amounts to billions of dollars. An extra penny or a shekel will not hurt both our country and any state.
                That's poop not like a Citizen of the Russian Federation. Leave it to the Ukrainian junta
                1. -13
                  11 December 2015 21: 39
                  Quote: Tusv
                  That's poop not like a Citizen of the Russian Federation. Leave it to the Ukrainian junta

                  Hi Vladimir!
                  Do not leave a padded jacket without your favorite entertainment, especially since he has nothing else but poop - no.
                  1. +3
                    11 December 2015 21: 49
                    Quote: atalef
                    Do not leave a padded jacket without your favorite entertainment, especially since he has nothing else but poop - no.

                    Well, your whole policy of the State of Israel, so to speak, is one big "poop" so that about you, do not tell all the true truth.
                    1. -1
                      11 December 2015 22: 11
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      Well, your whole policy of the State of Israel, so to speak, is one big "poop" so that about you, do not tell all the true truth.

                      Especially from your lips laughing
                      1. +4
                        11 December 2015 22: 26
                        Quote: atalef
                        Especially from your lips

                        I do not carry out the policy of Israel in the life of your fellow Jews.
                        20-year-old Jew from Israel went to fight on the side of the "Islamic State"
                        A young Jew from Israel tried to join the ranks of the radical Islamist movement "Islamic State" and go to fight on his side in Syria.
                        http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/09/01/izrailskiy-evrey-otpravilsya-vo
                        evat-na-storone-islamskogo-gosudarstva /
                        Well, I didn’t have time to get, but how many of these Israelites did?
                      2. +1
                        11 December 2015 22: 57
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        I do not carry out the policy of Israel in the life of your fellow Jews.
                        20-year-old Jew from Israel went to fight on the side of the "Islamic State"
                        A young Jew from Israel tried to join the ranks of the radical Islamist movement "Islamic State" and go to fight on his side in Syria.

                        Well padded jacket, the devil is hiding in the little things, ugly to fix
                        Young Jew from Israel tried to join the ranks of the radical Islamist movement "Islamic State"and go to fight on his side in Syria.

                        With the cooperation of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and international youth agencies man managed to intercept on the way to Syria and return home

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Well, I didn’t have time to get, but how many of these Israelites did?

                        A hundred times smaller than the Russians. Although they certainly are not Shiites like you, but the same Muslims. wink
                        Currently about 30 Israeli Arabs entered the ranks of the Islamic group ISIS, the government will consider the possibility of depriving them of their citizenship.

                        The initiator of this decision was the Minister of Tourism, Uzi Landau. On Tuesday, October 14, he turned to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with a proposal.

                        “These people live in Israel, are the citizens of our country. But these people living near us can turn their weapons against us at any time, ”Landau writes in his letter to the Prime Minister.

                        The Minister said that every Israeli should be sure that the Israeli authorities will strictly suppress any manifestation of ISIS.
                      3. +2
                        12 December 2015 00: 35
                        Quote: atalef
                        Well padded jacket, the devil is hiding in the little things, ugly to fix

                        And what have I fixed?
                        I gave everything in the text a link to an Israeli resource is present there.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Hundreds of times fewer Russians ..

                        So in our country and lives ten times more Muslims than you have in Israel.
                        According to various estimates, from 20 to 40 million and you have difficulty gaining 2 million.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Although they are certainly not Shiites like you, they are also Muslims.

                        What do you think a Jew is like that above a Muslim? Yes, you, both Jews and Muslims, do both circumcision and write from right to left and use "hieroglyphs" so there is nothing special for you to "show off".
                        What a Jew that a Muslim - at least cousins, but rather relatives.
                2. +2
                  11 December 2015 21: 40
                  Quote: Tusv
                  the security of the population is estimated at billions of dollars. An extra penny or a shekel will not hurt both our country and any state.

                  So we are engaged in the fact that we protect our population from terrorists ISIS fighting in Syria and the amount of money spent by our state on this should not particularly worry our Western friends, we are not spending their "pieces of paper".
                  So, it’s not for them what is important is not our current actions and situation there, but the amount of money spent by our country.
              4. +2
                11 December 2015 23: 33
                Quote: quilted jacket

                Well, it's natural. For countries such as the United States, Europe, Israel, there is nothing more interesting than the amount of dollars, euros or shekels in your pocket for them the concept of selfless help is something wild since their entire existence precludes any action without appropriate payment.


                The fact is that for the Jews, a disinterested world, death is similar. For in it there is no interest, no gain. They will die out in it.)))
                1. +3
                  12 December 2015 01: 08
                  Quote: Frigate
                  The fact is that for the Jews, a disinterested world, death is similar. For in it there is no interest, no gain. They will die out in it.

                  Well, the world of digital numbers smilebanknotes and coins of their element is not in vain the Jews mostly preferred to deal with accounting, becoming traders money-lender money changers.
                  1. -5
                    12 December 2015 01: 17
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    Quote: Frigate
                    The fact is that for the Jews, a disinterested world, death is similar. For in it there is no interest, no gain. They will die out in it.

                    Well, the world of digital numbers smilebanknotes and coins of their element is not in vain the Jews mostly preferred to deal with accounting, becoming traders money-lender money changers.

                    Envy. padded jacket. envy
                    This is not for you cat shawarma and not apples in the market to sell. laughing
                    My Azerbaijan friend hi
                    1. +5
                      12 December 2015 01: 35
                      Quote: atalef
                      Envy. padded jacket. envy

                      I envy what you know how to deceive another?
                      So this is not talent, but simply criminal inclinations.
                      Quote: atalef
                      This is not for you cat shawarma and not apples in the market to sell. laughing

                      In-in this you tell our user from Azerbaijan who remember you Israelis here on the forum before "looked in the mouth" and approved your every word laughing And you Jews hate them so much. I told you in Israel the darkness of racists and for some reason they consider themselves superior to other people. lol
                      1. -6
                        12 December 2015 01: 46
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        I envy what you know how to deceive another?
                        So this is not talent, but simply criminal inclinations.

                        Come on Vatnik, sold three shaverms. said that you can collect 2 cats, and there was only one meat.
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        In-in this you tell our user from Azerbaijan who remember you Israelis here on the forum before "looked in the mouth" and approved your every word

                        And you have to do with the dear Azerbaijani people, only by writing in the birth certificate, I try to show with my posts that among beautiful people there can be a black sheep, albeit dressed in a quilted jacket
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        And you Jews hate them so much

                        Am I Azerbaijanis? padded jacket, have you been vaccinated against foot and mouth disease?

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        I said in Israel the darkness of racists and for some reason they consider themselves superior to other people

                        What are you, we are the same b.s. like you.
                        Good night, Vatnik, have fallen for each other today, I hope I didn’t offend you. if something goes wrong, sorry - not out of spite, but solely from a misunderstanding hi
                      2. +4
                        12 December 2015 02: 17
                        Quote: atalef
                        Come on Vatnik, sold three shaverms. said that you can collect 2 cats, and there was only one meat.

                        Are you giving out your personal entrepreneurial secrets? lol
                        Quote: atalef
                        And you have to do with the highly respected Azerbaijani people,

                        I don’t, but you obviously have.
                        Quote: atalef
                        that among beautiful people there may be a black sheep, even if it is dressed in a quilted jacket

                        No need to draw an analogy with yourself, I certainly understand that you are an outcast among Jews and I hope very few people like you.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Am I Azerbaijanis?

                        Yes, you are all people hated except Jews. People like you roam the streets of Jerusalem with screams - death to the Arabs.
                        Quote: atalef
                        What are you, we are the same b.s. like you.

                        Well, if you yourself as you wrote this - b.s.
                        Personally, I consider myself a man.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Vatnik, we’ve fallen for each other today, I hope I didn’t offend you. if something goes wrong, sorry - not out of spite, but solely from a misunderstanding

                        Have you offended me? belay
                        Yes, you just can’t do it lol
              5. +2
                11 December 2015 23: 44
                Yes, some money Democrats love, sell and buy all the other day in Brussels a symposium was held on the sale of children to gays [ie pink partner pairs] http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/monde/2015/05/11/31002 -20150511ARTFIG00137-gpa-de-600
                008364-a-1500008364-le-prix-du-bebe-a-bruxelles.php GPA: de 60.000 € à 150.000 € le prix du bébé à Bruxelles
          2. +3
            11 December 2015 20: 42
            On the ninth of May at the Victory Parade With 500 see.
            1. +4
              11 December 2015 20: 50
              Quote: Vadim237
              On the ninth of May at the Victory Parade With 500 see.


              I think there will be more interesting gifts.
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            3. 0
              11 December 2015 21: 46
              Quote: Vadim237
              On the ninth of May at the Victory Parade With 500 see.

              And what to look at him? The main thing is how it differs in a positive direction from its predecessor! Here's what you need to look at.
          3. +2
            11 December 2015 22: 26
            As if in someone else's pocket they would not put it in place of money! laughing
          4. +2
            11 December 2015 22: 30
            Yes, the ammunition has an expiration date - but it’s expensive to dispose of, but here you can use it in the case - everything is fine !!!!!!
          5. 0
            12 December 2015 04: 48
            Quote: Tor5
            Worth it! Do not count money in someone else's pocket.
            - They just stupidly want to bleed us, as once the Soviet Union. Let's hope that the GDP has calculated this option as well.
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        3. +14
          11 December 2015 19: 31
          These Bloombergs of England would be better for kakeli how much their ATO costs, since not only can Russia repay the money, but the IMF can pay.
          1. -3
            11 December 2015 19: 56
            In the account of anti-terrorist operation they forgave our three.
            1. +19
              11 December 2015 20: 21
              Quote: Good AAAH
              In the account of anti-terrorist operation they forgave our three.

              Letter from a young Bandera Santa Claus:
              "I want you and the reindeer to be knocked over my hut.
              Mockals will be sanctioned for this, and a bag with all the gifts will fall into my garden! "
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        4. +7
          11 December 2015 20: 45
          The rotten bank "Slavia" decided to bankrupt the Bryansk Automobile Plant, which produces chassis for the S-300/400 and S-500 air defense systems in the future.

          That's where the national traitors sat down.

          And in the spring they wanted to bankrupt UVZ.

          Where the government is looking, interests me.
          1. +4
            11 December 2015 21: 03
            A bear is not a government. This is an iPhone.
        5. -5
          11 December 2015 22: 29
          Yes, okay, S-700 "on the wire" - with an aiming point - "Basel" :-)
      2. +1
        11 December 2015 21: 39
        Western experts for some reason do not ask how to help Russia in the fight against terrorism, but present information as if they were calculating how long after the start of such an operation the potentials of the Russian defense budget would run out ...

        DO NOT WAIT! hi
  2. +21
    11 December 2015 18: 49
    Bloomberg news agency decided to publish data from the so-called Royal Joint Institute for Defense Research.
    Now the ENGLISH ACCOUNTANTS, have become on a par with the ENGLISH SCIENTISTS. I think that with the same success ... And in general, counting other people's money is a thankless task.
    1. +3
      11 December 2015 18: 55
      Yes, everything is easier. Spends not Russia, and Syria. We got a military base on the Mediterranean. So, most likely, the cost of a military operation of the Ministry of Defense generally refers to the rent for the base.
      And the importance of a base on the Mediterranean Sea, both for trade and for security, cannot be overestimated.
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      2. -5
        11 December 2015 20: 25
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Yes, everything is simpler. Spends not Russia, but Syria.

        Of course Syria.
        And who earns?
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        We got a military base in the Mediterranean

        This is if Assad remains at the power
        By the way, she was there before
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        So, most likely, the expenses of the military operation of the Ministry of Defense are generally attributed to the base rental fee.

        For that kind of money. on the moon you can rent a base

        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        And the importance of the base on the Mediterranean for trade and security is hard to overestimate

        That's about trade, you can read more.
        1. +2
          11 December 2015 20: 57
          To us, the Jewish diaspora in Russia makes charitable contributions for the operation in Syria.
          Have you heard how your Mashiach was taken by the ass? I can tell you ...
          1. -1
            11 December 2015 21: 00
            Quote: Good AAAH
            To us, the Jewish diaspora in Russia makes charitable contributions for the operation in Syria.

            Yes to health. good
            I would not give request
            1. +1
              11 December 2015 21: 08
              Quote: atalef
              Yes to health

              Judging by the responses, Wi is generally delighted with the operation of the videoconferencing. But in fact?
              1. +1
                11 December 2015 21: 23
                Quote: Tusv
                Quote: atalef
                Yes to health

                Judging by the responses, Wi is generally delighted with the operation of the videoconferencing. But in fact?

                And in fact, delighted.
    2. +8
      11 December 2015 19: 05
      Every year, our VKS spend money on exercises in which both fuel and ammunition are spent, it has always been on the budget and no one was aching. It’s just that now we are conducting the exercises not on our land, but on the Syrian one, it has practically no effect on the budget. In return, we get real combat experience, advertise our weapons and increase our credibility with virtually no serious financial burden. All expenses will be repulsed by contracts for the supply of weapons.
      1. +3
        11 December 2015 19: 42
        Denis, you’re right. And I heard somewhere that war is cheaper than training on its territory. Is it true, I can’t vouch ...
        It is possible that there will be several military bases. And if you do not pay for the rent, then you can go to zero in the calculations.
        If this land is worth nothing, then why is it that they all climb there so much.
        1. 0
          11 December 2015 20: 29
          Quote: Barkhan
          Yenis, you are right. And I heard somewhere that war is cheaper than exercises on its territory

          Yes, I know where, you heard it wink
          Quote: Barkhan
          It is possible that there will be several military bases. And if you do not pay for the rent, then you can go to zero in the calculations.

          laughing
          1. +2
            12 December 2015 09: 55
            Oh ... I greet you, O Alexander, with "huge fists".
            Perhaps my words are cynical. But I don’t like the habit of squandering good and state money. Forgiving debts, for example many billions, If you get into some sort of mess, you need to clearly understand what you want to get in the end ...
            As far as I understand, Assad has already publicly promised Russia to "develop" this territory. Well, we really need full-fledged and strong military bases in this place. Then everything is simple, Assad has power over the bases for a hundred years, with a symbolic payment of one banana ...
            If our troops stand, I think Israel will be calmer wink
            Well, it’s possible to finally disperse the barmaleys when we stop sorting them ...
            A theoretical example without a hitch .... How long will it take for Israel to resolve the Palestinian question if it is given full will?
            Personally, I think that anyway, sooner or later everything will come to a total sweep. An example is the district of Turkoman.
      2. +3
        11 December 2015 19: 51
        Putin said: "If we do not destroy the terrorists in Syria, they will destroy us at home."
        As for money, Europe will spend tens of $ billion on accommodation, expulsion (Norway) of refugees
      3. +3
        11 December 2015 19: 57
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Every year, our VKS spend money on exercises in which both fuel and ammunition are spent, it has always been on the budget and no one was aching.

        Given that plaque in combat conditions is priceless, and ammunition has an expiration date
        1. +8
          11 December 2015 20: 31
          Quote: perepilka
          , and the ammunition has an expiration date

          So.... winked , Wow what I didn’t know .. recourse ...., and I have a box of vodka for already 3-4 in the basement sad , I'm going to "blow up" 350 grams, or maybe it's time to dispose of this batch, suddenly it doesn't "explode" at the right time .. negative Well, this is a saying, a fairy tale is that on all the turnover-balance sheets of small-shavens of our costs in Syria there is a good Russian proverb about the fact that in someone else's hands (something) is always thicker. Hello feathered drinks !
          1. +4
            11 December 2015 20: 44
            Quote: Tersky
            and I have a box of vodka for 3-4 years already in the basement :(

            This is a crime against humanity, Cossack! soldier With all due respect. Any surplus is sentenced in favor of hundreds, after which there is a demand, to the division commander, to let go into the sea! I even got it, on horsebacks, to India, of course, in the sea ourselves, in the sense, I’m more likely with you now, but don’t be afraid, now, don’t be afraid, I danced on horseholes on horseholes from childhood. And in the sea, son, he helps to make them, and let the naval aviation, on an urgent basis, on Novaya Zemlya, but his grandfather was registered for the float.
            He even figured out that the whole family was liable for military service, that his wife and daughter, medical workers, that my son and I what
            Well, on the edge, in case there are fewer problems, the military enlistment office and ...
            1. +5
              11 December 2015 20: 56
              Quote: perepilka
              Any surplus is sentenced in favor of hundreds,

              , hmm ... well, maybe a hundred will not be enough, but for three or two days, the most .. laughing
              1. +2
                11 December 2015 21: 08
                Quote: Tersky
                , hmm ... well, maybe a hundred will not be enough, but for three or two days, the most .. laughing

                Well, ten divided by six what No, Vit, at least a flat cake, but on the second day, a box, around the edge
          2. +4
            11 December 2015 21: 14
            Quote: Tersky
            and I have a box of vodka for already 3-4 in the basement

            Check, check, and then there probably is not 40, but 25 degrees. Alcohol gradually evaporates and faster than water.
            1. 0
              11 December 2015 21: 31
              Quote: Алексей_К
              Check, check, and then there probably is not 40, but 25 degrees. Alcohol gradually evaporates and faster than water.

              A guy in Kyrgyzstan, such a village, sorted the stove, found a bottle in a crate, sealed with wax. In the spring it was, on May Day I drank my face in one face, the punishment was immediate, all night, walked around the village, and played the accordion. One! request
              1. +1
                11 December 2015 21: 35
                Quote: perepilka
                Quote: Алексей_К
                Check, check, and then there probably is not 40, but 25 degrees. Alcohol gradually evaporates and faster than water.

                A guy in Kyrgyzstan, such a village, sorted the stove, found a bottle in a crate, sealed with wax. In the spring it was, on May Day I drank my face in one face, the punishment was immediate, all night, walked around the village, and played the accordion. One! request

                Hello Volodya!
                Did you find the same accordion in the stove? wink
                1. 0
                  11 December 2015 22: 34
                  Quote: atalef
                  Did you find the same accordion in the stove? wink

                  Hi Sanya drinks We have three houses, two harmonica, musical people. Well, the guitars yet.
                  In January, half your vacation, come, I’ll throw off my address, if anything, fishing, barbecue, UAZ-452, guitar, songs, under vodka winked
              2. +3
                11 December 2015 23: 51
                Quote: perepilka
                Quote: Алексей_К
                Check, check, and then there probably is not 40, but 25 degrees. Alcohol gradually evaporates and faster than water.

                A guy in Kyrgyzstan, such a village, sorted the stove, found a bottle in a crate, sealed with wax. In the spring it was, on May Day I drank my face in one face, the punishment was immediate, all night, walked around the village, and played the accordion. One! request

                So it is sealed with sealing wax, it is absolute tightness. And now no one seals vodka like that, moreover, these screw caps are often not screwed to the end at all, i.e. not tight.
        2. 0
          15 December 2015 10: 15
          sometimes there are such years in product labeling ... (8th laughing category)
      4. 0
        11 December 2015 20: 12
        Every year, our VKS spend money on exercises in which both fuel and ammunition are spent, it has always been on the budget and no one was aching. It’s just that now we are conducting the exercises not on our land, but on the Syrian one, it has practically no effect on the budget.
        And most importantly, almost all of the funds allocated for defense go to our enterprises, the money goes to the real sector of the economy. If we bought weapons abroad, then the losses would be huge.
      5. -15
        11 December 2015 20: 28
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Every year, our VKS spend money on exercises in which both fuel and ammunition are spent, it has always been on the budget and no one was aching. It’s just that now we are conducting the exercises not on our land, but on the Syrian one, it has practically no effect on the budget.

        Oh well
        Do you know the difference?
        If there is no money, the teachings can be reduced, squeezed, transferred, stopped, --- and with Syria, how?
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        . In return, we get real combat experience

        Come on ?
        VKS bombed easier than at the training grounds - there is no opposition.

        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        We advertise our weapons and increase our credibility with virtually no serious financial burden.

        two mistakes in your comments - what do you think?

        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        . All expenses will be repulsed by contracts for the supply of weapons.

        To Syria laughing
        1. +7
          11 December 2015 21: 25
          Quote: atalef
          two mistakes in your comments - what do you think?

          Dear "atalef"! Quit nitpicking mistakes, or is it you have something else? There are continuous mistakes in your proposals, but nobody expresses itself about it.
      6. 0
        11 December 2015 20: 30
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        In return, we get real combat experience, advertise our weapons and increase our credibility with virtually no serious financial burden. All expenses will be repulsed by contracts for the supply of weapons.

        It's like that. The main thing to do, as always, is to win
    3. +4
      11 December 2015 20: 17
      Quote: svp67
      Now the ENGLISH ACCOUNTANTS, have become on a par with the ENGLISH SCIENTISTS. I think that with the same success ... And in general, counting other people's money is a thankless task.

      They know how to count money - they were in your pocket in your pocket. You see, Borya sponsored the NATO Iraqi expedition, writing off the debts of Iraq (the amount of $ 41 billion was announced on TV). Lukoil and Rosatom kicked out - this is still a fifty-dollar loss of profits and a good investment - a minimum of twenty.

      So it's cheaper for us to bomb the barmalei for four lard than to lose hundreds of lard
    4. +4
      11 December 2015 21: 43
      Quote: svp67
      Now the ENGLISH ACCOUNTANTS, have become on a par with the ENGLISH SCIENTISTS. I think that with the same success ... And in general, counting other people's money is a thankless task.


      "He took every dollar in someone else's pocket as a personal insult." ...

      ( O.Henry )
    5. 0
      11 December 2015 22: 48
      Quote: svp67
      Now the ENGLISH ACCOUNTANTS, have become on a par with the ENGLISH SCIENTISTS. I think that with the same success ... In general, counting other people's money is a thankless task

      Not accountants. Propaganda from media controlled by the media.
  3. +4
    11 December 2015 18: 49
    instead of. in order to help bomb the igles, they sit and consider our expenses, thereby buying bandits’s blood oil for cheap!
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    2. +2
      11 December 2015 19: 05
      They are waiting, they will not wait (counting the days and months) when we are busy with finances. So they themselves do not climb, save. Hornless demons.
      1. +3
        11 December 2015 19: 41
        Quote: Siberian
        They are waiting, they will not wait (counting the days and months) when we are busy with finances.

        Be that as it may, but the money is not small. The CSTO is shaking the time. very far from these places. The population of Central Asia does not concern radical Islam, and you can’t lure them into ISIS. The citizens of Belarus did not die in the plane blown up over Sinai, why should they strain! Russia is responsible for all.
        1. 0
          11 December 2015 20: 31
          Quote: zennon
          Be that as it may, but the money is not small. The CSTO is the most time to shake

          shake dad laughing
          1. +4
            11 December 2015 20: 57
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: zennon
            Be that as it may, but the money is not small. The CSTO is the most time to shake

            shake dad laughing



            Old Man is also not iron, and certainly not eternal, he understands everything and will not be there, there will be no Belarus in its current form.
          2. +10
            11 December 2015 21: 14
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: zennon
            Be that as it may, but the money is not small. The CSTO is the most time to shake

            shake dad laughing

            Alexander, and who are you shaking, is it really the USA?
            1. +3
              11 December 2015 21: 27
              Quote: 79807420129
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: zennon
              Be that as it may, but the money is not small. The CSTO is the most time to shake

              shake dad laughing

              Alexander, and who are you shaking, is it really the USA?

              Why only the USA? We, as expected, the whole world is shaking and (as the Old Man says) we are replaying. hi
              1. +8
                11 December 2015 21: 32
                [quote = atalef] [quote = 79807420129] [quote = atalef] [quote = zennon] Anyway, but the money is not small. It’s time to shake the Collective Security Treaty Organization [/ quote]
                shake dad laughing[/ Quote]
                Alexander, and who are you shaking, is it really the USA? [/ Quo hi te]
                Why only the USA? We, as expected, the whole world is shaking and (as the Old Man says) we are replaying. hi[/ Quote]
                In what way did they get to the aliens? And they also counted all the money from them? hi
                1. +3
                  11 December 2015 21: 35
                  Quote: 79807420129
                  but how did you get to the aliens? And they also counted all the money from them?

                  They are us fin. reports to classmates send.
                  1. +9
                    11 December 2015 21: 45
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: 79807420129
                    but how did you get to the aliens? And they also counted all the money from them?

                    They are us fin. reports to classmates send.

                    Well, you yourself deal with aliens, and we’ll creak something like that, especially since the Bloombergs climb into the assistants, they probably send you financial reports in contact. hi
                    1. +1
                      11 December 2015 21: 53
                      Quote: 79807420129
                      all the more so Bloombergs climb into the assistants, they probably send you financial reports in contact

                      What for ? Bloomberg of ours laughing
                      Bloomberg was founded by Michael Bloomberg in 1981. It is a private company, Michael Bloomberg bought back 2008% of the company from Merrill Lynch in July 20 and now the founder owns 88% of the shares [1].

                      Bloomberg is one of two leading providers of financial information for professional participants in financial markets. The main product is Bloomberg Terminal, through which you can access current and historical prices on almost all world exchanges and many over-the-counter markets, the Bloomberg news feed and other leading media, the electronic bond trading system and other securities.

                      Michael Rubens Bloomberg is a businessman and 108th mayor of New York. One of the richest people in the world according to Forbes, in 2013 he takes 10th place with a fortune of $ 31 billion

                      By the way, being the mayor of New York, he had a salary of $ 1 per year. laughing

                      Quote: 79807420129
                      Well, you yourself deal with aliens,

                      Already figured out
                      1. +8
                        11 December 2015 22: 06
                        Alexander atalef Bloomberg no longer pour, or something again counts something, Okay good night, thanks for the conversation. good hi
              2. +1
                11 December 2015 21: 52
                Do you miss your homeland? These are not real Jews. The real ones have always lived in Israel. Imagine that Muslims and others lived in Khazaria, have never been to Israel, and here, out of nowhere, the Jews from Iran came to the country, seized key posts in the country, lurking, and the guys have already converted to Judaism. Somewhere like that.
                1. +2
                  11 December 2015 22: 04
                  Quote: Good AAAH
                  .Real always lived in Israel

                  Real Jews are the same Arabs of only a different faith.
                  1. 0
                    11 December 2015 22: 46
                    Once upon a time we lived like a fake (Khazark) Jewish woman, a doctor in a clinic, a good woman. Once, in childhood, I pulled a nail out of my leg, climbed anywhere. So, I decided to leave for Israel, but could not bear the separation from my homeland, she quickly died there. Conclusion for Atalef: you can not tear yourself away from their native land.
              3. 0
                15 December 2015 10: 31
                So far (or already) only half ... hi At the same time, entropy is also growing ...
          3. 0
            11 December 2015 21: 15
            CSTO can be shaken. It just seems that they are sitting in a shade under a tree, so that the sun does not bake.
        2. -1
          11 December 2015 21: 52
          Shake the CSTO, when necessary, will not go anywhere. Fried rooster is a contagious disease, they picked it up long ago from the Russians, it’s just that the incubation period has not ended yet, but it doesn’t last long. How all this abomination breaks down in their area - they will see at once, and plans to counter the shaitans in those parts of the General Staff are developed and are adjusted daily, it seems to me.
    3. 0
      11 December 2015 22: 50
      Quote: Uranus
      instead of. in order to help bomb the igles, they sit and consider our expenses, thereby buying bandits’s blood oil for cheap!

      There is an information war, my friend ...
  4. +6
    11 December 2015 18: 53
    You gentlemen "is greatvashumamukorolevubritish"Scientists, do not strain too hard. As it was with Vladimir Semyonovich:
    ... scientists, precious Einsteins,
    Newtons are beloved, beloved to tears.
    After all, our mortal remains will lie in the ground,
    After all, everything is the same - apatity and dung ...

    Will not be enough, reset. For the sake of a good cause, we will forever ... wink
  5. +2
    11 December 2015 18: 54
    It is commendable that everyone considers it there. It is commendable that they do not want to spend extra money ...
    But they are well aware that printed wrappers must be fused.
    And this is war.
    Only war allows capitalism to emerge from the crisis with renewed vigor.
  6. +10
    11 December 2015 18: 54
    Quote: Uranus
    they care

    The thing is simple, to set up citizens against this operation. Look, they say how your Putin spends money, but he could raise pensions for grandmothers, etc.! Only they are past again, justice is important to a Russian person, and to him how much he will spend money for the sake of of this!
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 20: 11
      Quote: 020205
      Only they are passing by again, justice is important for the Russian man, and he will care how much money he spends for this!
  7. +11
    11 December 2015 18: 58
    We’ll figure it out ourselves. But in general, Our people are fighting in Syria for Us, here money is not the main thing ...
    1. +5
      11 December 2015 19: 11
      Quote: Homeland_SSSR
      But in general, Our people are fighting in Syria for Us, here money is not the main thing ...

      Here you are wrong. Money is the same factor is not unimportant. And the fact that we are now spending on the operation in Syria 1/100 if not 1/1000 of the costs that we can incur if this operation, even on such a scale, is carried out against Daesh in our territory.
      1. -4
        11 December 2015 21: 02
        Already carried out. 2 Chechen. Only, only recovery results begin to appear.
        1. +1
          11 December 2015 21: 11
          Quote: dr.star75
          Already carried out. 2 Chechen. Only, only recovery results begin to appear.

          Speaking of Chechens, does anyone know what kind of uniform Kadyrov has?
          1. +2
            11 December 2015 21: 49
            "Speaking of Chechens, does anyone know what kind of uniform Kadyrov has?" - I know. Combined hodgepodge of photoshop. One blooper after another.
  8. +3
    11 December 2015 19: 00
    Count, other people's money, they love the account. Then imagine how much the war with Russia will become for you, maybe sober up right away, or the toad will strangle you from greed.
  9. 0
    11 December 2015 19: 02
    I certainly wouldn’t trust DAMA, but on the other hand, no matter how cynical it sounds, the operation may well cost the budget for combat training of troops at a certain stage of training.
    Although, don't blame me, colleagues, it's hard to believe in it. It is difficult to include measures for testing the latest systems in the expenditure item for Syria, it would be illogical, due to possible mistakes. This means, in my subjective opinion, everything should go according to the article "Combat training of troops", which again raises doubts. This is especially alarming after hearing this from the lips of a LADY, an entity that is never responsible for its words. This in no way diminishes the actions of our Armed Forces in Syria, but once again convinces us of the insincerity of our leaders towards the people.
    The thought is subjective and does not pretend to be true, but I would like to hear real comments or opinions from opponents, and not just a dumb minus.
    I have the honor, Dear colleagues. hi
    1. -2
      11 December 2015 19: 13
      Eck, you will ... easy to ask - what kind of gesheft do we have for investing our work and our own capital? hi
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    3. +1
      11 December 2015 19: 15
      Yes, yes, what is our gesheft? hi
      1. +5
        11 December 2015 19: 26
        Gesheft is obvious. Qatar will not be able to lay a pipeline through Syria to Turkey and further to Europe, while Assad is in power. Thus, we cut off a potential competitor from our hydrocarbon market.
        1. -3
          11 December 2015 20: 33
          Quote: Freeman
          Gesheft is obvious. Qatar will not be able to lay a pipeline through Syria to Turkey and further to Europe, while Assad is in power

          Why Assad is so resist this? wink
          Quote: Freeman
          Thus, we cut off a potential competitor from our hydrocarbon market.

          So Assad in Syria is fighting for Gazprom? belay
          1. -1
            11 December 2015 21: 13
            "So Assad is fighting for Gazprom in Syria?" - Still could not agree on the price of the transit issue. Qatar prepped on its own, Assad in another place took offense. By the way, there are rumors that if Assad falls, Qatar will build a gas pipeline, if Assad stays, Iran will build a gas pipeline, if there is a struggle, no one is building a gas pipeline. GAZPROM is the property of Russia!
          2. +4
            11 December 2015 23: 14
            Quote: atalef
            So Assad in Syria is fighting for Gazprom? belay

            This is not Assad fighting. That we are fighting for our national interests, and for the loyal leader of Syria to us. Against its collapse and destruction.
            If not for us, now in Syria it would have been like in Libya.
      2. +3
        11 December 2015 20: 52
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        Yes, yes, what is our gesheft?

        Allow me to try. Putin has repeatedly said that several thousand of our citizens are fighting for Daesh in Syria. It’s much cheaper to fight with them than later to fight on our territory. Well, what, we again bomb Grozny as in the 90s? Plus excellent advertising of weapons. It’s one thing to show at air shows, and quite another in real work. I’m not an expert, but it’s obvious to me that for 120-150 sorties in 2 or a few months about 70 planes is not a bug sneezed! Our sworn friends again they scratched their turnips while looking at a map of Central Asia. But it’s so convenient for the Russian waters, but where the hell to draw the radii from there! Then, examining the columns of smoke from the TTD
        lionfish that suddenly appeared from under the water over the surface of their native Mediterranean. Do you know, this is a ho-oh-oh-good means of persuasion. Plus political dividends, it’s one thing to go to salons and watch with tongues, and quite another thing to really wet “I’m als in a bar” !
        Well, something like this.
    4. -2
      11 December 2015 20: 20
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      Believe Dame

      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      which again raises doubts

      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      convinces us of insincerity

      He piled)). How can one evaluate that which itself doubts?
    5. -1
      11 December 2015 22: 59
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      The thought is subjective and does not pretend to be true, but I would like to hear real comments or opinions from opponents, and not just a dumb minus.


      He seemed to be interested in opponents, but alas, except for the next dumb minus, he received nothing. But it’s a pity, the minus is not interesting, I’ve rarely been on the site to be interested in rating, but alas, apparently another regular exam, well done, and sorry, colleagues, I would like to see more serious people on the site. soldier
  10. -3
    11 December 2015 19: 02
    In my humble opinion, this entire operation "to save Syria" was planned to be completed before NG, but as usual, it was smooth on paper ... and then the money in the country runs out. So they do not count out of curiosity, but out of pragmatic interest, how long will we last
    1. +3
      11 December 2015 19: 55
      How can money end in a country that buys 150 lard green bonds of the most probable opponent for oil and gas?
  11. 0
    11 December 2015 19: 03
    Quote: Starover_Z
    As a result, the Royal Institute reports that on an annualized basis, Russia could spend $ 1 billion on the Syrian operation 3.

    What's the matter with the West? Let money count in their pockets.
  12. 52
    +1
    11 December 2015 19: 03
    What is there, 3 billion? Just someone owes us the required amount, he- angry heh
  13. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 04
    We rummaged in another pocket again. Wow and arrogant Saxons tongue
  14. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 04
    3 mld. bucks? - pfff ..- just kakely give, more fun thing winked
  15. 52
    +1
    11 December 2015 19: 05
    How many? 3 billion? Someone owes us the money, he- angry heh.
    1. -5
      11 December 2015 20: 33
      Quote: 52gim
      How many? 3 billion? Someone owes us the money, heh-x

      Syria, 4- times as much laughing
  16. 0
    11 December 2015 19: 10
    But borrowing other people's money in someone else’s pocket is not good !!!!!
  17. +2
    11 December 2015 19: 10
    This is bad money, count other people's money! angry
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 19: 15
      Quote: AlexTires
      This is bad money, count other people's money! angry

      Can I send this message to our economic department? To the optimizers?
  18. +2
    11 December 2015 19: 12
    Our military combines military training with the solution of security issues. For these purposes, Russia spends public funds economically and effectively.
  19. 0
    11 December 2015 19: 17
    Apparently, the Royal Institute is very fond of counting other people's money.
    Let yours count! What is the trouble for our money? What a strange habit of looking into a neighbor’s pocket and wallet! Who are they to count our money ?! Or did they decide to share the skin of a dead bear ??! wassat
  20. +5
    11 December 2015 19: 18
    But less is spent on exercises? It’s better to use it better than training on fake targets (although it’s also useful). Besides, our Orthodoxy has left Syria, which means that money doesn’t matter anymore. . Only then will they respect us.
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 20: 34
      Quote: NEXUS
      .Besides, our Orthodoxy came out of Syria,

      You tear the pattern wink
      Orthodoxy from Syria? belay
      1. +1
        11 December 2015 21: 24
        Quote: atalef
        You tear the pattern
        Orthodoxy from Syria?


        Prince Vladimir was baptized in Khersones (Korsun) after taking him for 9 months of the siege. For this, the Byzantine kings Vasily and Konstantin gave their sister Anna to him as a wife.
        And where did this religion come to Korsun from Antioch. hi
      2. +1
        11 December 2015 21: 49
        Quote: atalef
        Orthodoxy from Syria?

        Here my question arose: something is wrong with our Orthodoxy, either the priests are lying, or the Byzantine Greeks called themselves Syrians.
        1. +1
          11 December 2015 21: 55
          Quote: Алексей_К
          Here my question arose: something is wrong with our Orthodoxy, either the priests are lying, or the Byzantine Greeks called themselves Syrians.

          Everything with our Orthodoxy is so. In Chersonesos, where Vladimir was baptized, Christianity came from Antioch. By the way, a lot of Orthodox shrines are located in Damascus and in Homs and in other cities of Syria.
          Best regards hi
          1. 0
            11 December 2015 22: 05
            Quote: NEXUS
            Everything with our Orthodoxy is so. In Khersones, where Vladimir was baptized

            in Kherson belay
            And I thought in Kiev
            According to The Tale of Bygone Years, in 6496 from the creation of the world (that is, approximately in 988 CE) [28] the Prince of Kiev Vladimir Svyatoslavich decided to be baptized from the Church of Constantinople. After that, during the reign of Emperors Vasily II and Constantine VIII Bagryanorodny, sent by the Patriarch of Constantinople Nicholas II Khrisoverger, the clergy baptized Kiev people in the waters of the Dnieper and (or) Pochayna. According to the Russian annals of the Tale of Bygone Years, the prince during the baptism of his people offered the following prayer:

            “Great God, who created heaven and earth! Take a look at this new people and give them, Lord, take you away, the true God, as if taking you away the Christian countries, and establish faith in them right and not corrupt, and help me, Lord, on the opposite enemy, but relying on You and Your power, I will overcome his wiles


            Quote: NEXUS
            Christianity came from Antioch

            You confuse me
            Orthodoxy (tracing-paper from the Greek. Ὀρθοδοξία - literally “correct judgment”, “correct teaching” or “correct praising” [1]) - a direction in Christianity that took shape in the east of the Roman Empire during the first millennium from the birth of Christ, under the leadership and under the main the role of the department of the bishop of Constantinople

            when suddenly interesting
            Misunderstandings began with Ukraine - and Vladimir immediately turned out to be baptized in Khersones
            The troops entered Syria - and right there it turns out Orthodoxy went from there laughing
            good
            In school history textbooks, only reliable estimates of specialists should be based on facts. At the same time, state interests must be taken into account. Russia, according to the Minister of Culture.

            РИА Новости http://ria.ru/society/20151119/1324267657.html#ixzz3u2a7F3Bg
            1. +1
              11 December 2015 22: 17
              Quote: atalef
              in Kherson
              And I thought in Kiev

              Princess Byzantine Anna went to her fiancé in Korsun, and when she arrived there, the prince suddenly went blind. Vladimir began to doubt, and the wise girl explained that he was blind temporarily and solely so that the Lord would show him his indescribable glory.
              The prince was baptized by the bishop of Korsun. As soon as he laid his hand on the head of the prince and began to immerse him in the font, as Vladimir received his sight. “Now I have known the true God,” the prince exclaimed with joy. It will forever remain a mystery that was revealed to Vladimir at the time of baptism.

              Vladimir was baptized in Korsun (Khersones), and not in Kiev, as is commonly believed. hi
              In modern publications, there are opinions that Prince Vladimir could be baptized in Kiev.

              - This is impossible because the prince intended to marry the sister of the Byzantine emperor Anna, they could not let her out of the empire without a wedding. Otherwise, she would be considered one of the prince’s concubines. Therefore, the emperor and the Patriarch could let Anna go beyond the borders of the Byzantine Empire by his already legitimate wife. This means that the baptism of Prince Vladimir, and their wedding should have occurred on the territory of the Byzantine Empire, of which Khersones was a part. There was a Byzantine administration with military and customs structures.
              1. -1
                11 December 2015 22: 20
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: atalef
                in Kherson
                And I thought in Kiev

                Princess Byzantine Anna went to her fiancé in Korsun, and when she arrived there, the prince suddenly went blind. Vladimir began to doubt, and the wise girl explained that he was blind temporarily and solely so that the Lord would show him his indescribable glory.
                The prince was baptized by the bishop of Korsun. As soon as he laid his hand on the head of the prince and began to immerse him in the font, as Vladimir received his sight. “Now I have known the true God,” the prince exclaimed with joy. It will forever remain a mystery that was revealed to Vladimir at the time of baptism.

                Vladimir was baptized in Korsun (Khersones), and not in Kiev, as is commonly believed. hi
                In modern publications, there are opinions that Prince Vladimir could be baptized in Kiev.

                - This is impossible because the prince intended to marry the sister of the Byzantine emperor Anna, they could not let her out of the empire without a wedding. Otherwise, she would be considered one of the prince’s concubines. Therefore, the emperor and the Patriarch could let Anna go beyond the borders of the Byzantine Empire by his already legitimate wife. This means that the baptism of Prince Vladimir, and their wedding should have occurred on the territory of the Byzantine Empire, of which Khersones was a part. There was a Byzantine administration with military and customs structures.

                I believe Yes
                indicate the source, preferably with the date of publication laughing
                1. +2
                  11 December 2015 22: 26
                  Quote: atalef
                  indicate the source, preferably with the date of publication

                  Funny ... in the Tale of Bygone Years everything is there. And for familiarization with additional material, here is a link to an Orthodox resource. Http://www.pravoslavie.ru/3496.html
                  1. -1
                    11 December 2015 22: 49
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Quote: atalef
                    indicate the source, preferably with the date of publication

                    Funny ... in the Tale of Bygone Years everything is there. And for familiarization with additional material, here is a link to an Orthodox resource. Http://www.pravoslavie.ru/3496.html

                    really
                    Quote: atalef
                    According to The Tale of Bygone Years, in 6496 from the creation of the world (that is, approximately in 988 AD) [28] Prince of Kiev Vladimir Svyatoslavich decided to be baptized from the Church of Constantinople. Then, during the reign of Emperors Vasily II and Konstantin VIII Bagryanorodny, sent by the Patriarch of Constantinople Nicholas II Chryserberg, the clergy baptized Kiev people in the waters of the Dnieper and (or) Pochayna. According to the Russian annals of the Tale of Bygone Years, the prince during the baptism of his people offered the following prayer:

                    Or do you have your own story?
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    here is a link to an orthodox resource.http: //www.pravoslavie.ru/3496.html

                    This resource
                    Is a personal opinion
                    Orthodoxy. Ru (originally “Orthodoxy 2000” [1]) is an Orthodox informational Internet portal. Created and maintained on January 1, 2000 by the editors of the Internet projects of the Moscow Sretensky Monastery. The chief editor of the site is the governor of the monastery, Bishop Egorievsky Tikhon (Shevkunov).

                    And nothing more.
                    You tell me something academic, not a free translation from English into provincial.
                    Best regards hi
                    1. +4
                      11 December 2015 22: 58
                      Quote: atalef
                      Or do you have your own story?

                      You apparently do not read carefully. I spoke about the baptism of Prince Vladimir, and not of all Russia.
                      Here is an excerpt from the Tale of Bygone Years ..
                      Vladimir answered: "Let those who come with your sister and baptize me." And the kings obeyed, and sent their sister, dignitaries and elders. She didn’t want to go, saying: “I’m going as if it’s full, it would be better for me to die here.” And the brothers said to her: “Maybe God will turn the Russian land to repentance with you, and you can save the Greek land from a terrible war. Do you see how much evil Russia has done to the Greeks? Now, if you don’t go, they will do the same for us. ” And they barely forced her. She boarded the ship, said goodbye to her neighbors with weeping and went across the sea. And she came to Korsun, and the Korsuns came out to meet her with a bow, and brought her into the city, and put her in the chamber. By divine providence Vladimir was ill at that time with his eyes, and did not see anything, and mourned greatly, and did not know what to do. And the queen sent to him to say: “If you want to get rid of this disease, then be baptized as soon as possible; if you don’t get baptized, you cannot get rid of your ailment. ” Hearing this, Vladimir said: “If this is truly fulfilled, then truly great is the Christian God.” And he commanded himself to be baptized. The bishop of Korsun with the tsarina priests, having announced, baptized Vladimir. And when he laid his hand on him, he immediately received his sight. Vladimir, sensing his sudden healing, glorified God: "Now I have recognized the true God." Many of the warriors, having seen this, were baptized. He was baptized in the church of St. Basil, and that church stands in the city of Korsuni in the middle of the city where the Korsuns gather for bargaining; the chamber of Vladimir stands from the edge of the church to the present day, and the tsaritsyn’s chamber - at the altar. After baptism, they brought the queen to marry. Those who do not know the truth say that Vladimir was baptized in Kiev, while others say - in Vasilev, while others will say differently.
            2. +3
              11 December 2015 23: 13
              Quote: atalef
              in Kherson

              Here is the confirmation of my words about inattentive reading of the post ... not in Kherson, but in Chersonese, in antiquity called Korsun.
          2. -1
            11 December 2015 22: 58
            Quote: NEXUS
            Everything with our Orthodoxy is so. In Chersonesos, where Vladimir was baptized, Christianity came from Antioch. By the way, a lot of Orthodox shrines are located in Damascus and in Homs and in other cities of Syria.
            Best regards

            The Orthodox Church considers the whole history of the united Church before the Great schism in 1054 and the advent of Catholicism as its history. Orthodox creed dates back to apostolic times, i.e. when the apostles of Christ lived and spread the Christian faith among other people.
            It turns out that Orthodoxy began with Jesus Christ, as the Orthodox Church claims. According to the Bible, it all began in the territory of Judea. What does Syria have to do with it?
            1. +1
              11 December 2015 23: 04
              Quote: Алексей_К
              What does Syria have to do with it?

              It's simple, in Korsun (Chersonese) before Orthodoxy worshiped the Olympic gods, and Christianity came from Antioch. It was in Korsun that Prince Vladimir and all his squad were baptized. hi
              1. +1
                11 December 2015 23: 15
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: Алексей_К
                What does Syria have to do with it?

                It's simple, in Korsun (Chersonese) before Orthodoxy worshiped the Olympic gods, and Christianity came from Antioch. It was in Korsun that Prince Vladimir and all his squad were baptized. hi

                You'd better talk to Father in the nearest Church. And he will answer you. And the answer will be this: Orthodoxy began with Jesus Christ and the apostles, and not with Chersonesos. And there is no our or your Orthodoxy. Orthodoxy is one, and all who begin to carry heresy become sectarians for "our" Orthodox Church.
                1. +2
                  11 December 2015 23: 20
                  Quote: Алексей_К
                  You'd better talk to Father in the nearest Church. And he will answer you. And the answer will be this: Orthodoxy began with Jesus Christ and the apostles, and not with Chersonesos. And there is no our or your Orthodoxy. Orthodoxy is one, and all who begin to carry heresy become sectarians for "our" Orthodox Church.

                  Are you talking nonsense again? Or you just decided to complain about words that don't really make you look too. I talked about BAPTISM OF PRINCE VLADIMIR, who later baptized Russia. And what’s the heresy here, dear?
                  In Korsun, where Vladimir was baptized, Christianity came from Antochia (Byzantine lands). This is also a well-known fact.
            2. -2
              11 December 2015 23: 16
              Quote: Алексей_К
              It turns out that Orthodoxy began with Jesus Christ, as the Orthodox Church claims. According to the Bible, it all began in the territory of Judea. What does Syria have to do with it?

              This is a sacred theme for the next mess. When Putin wants Israel to annex laughing
              Quote: NEXUS
              It's simple, in Korsun (Chersonesus) before Orthodoxy worshiped the Olympic gods, and Christianity came from Antioch. It was in Korsun that Prince Vladimir and all his squad were baptized

              And the fact that he lived in Kiev does not bother you?
              1. +1
                11 December 2015 23: 24
                Quote: atalef
                And the fact that he lived in Kiev does not bother you?

                And where is he living? He besieged the city of Korsun and took it after 9 months.
                And when the year passed, in 6496 (988), Vladimir went with an army to Korsun, the Greek city, and the Korsunians shut up in the city. And Vladimir stood on the other side of the city at the pier, in the distance of the arrow's flight from the city, and fought hard from the city. Vladimir besieged the city. People in the city became exhausted, and Vladimir said to the townspeople: “If you don’t give up, then it will be a mere three years.” They did not obey him, but Vladimir, having made his army, ordered to sprinkle the embankment to the city walls. And when they poured it, they, the Korsuns, digging up the city wall, stole the poured earth, and carried it to their city, and poured it in the middle of the city. The soldiers sprinkled even more, and Vladimir stood. And then a certain Korsunian husband, named Anastas, shot an arrow, writing on it: "Dig and take water, it goes through pipes from the wells that are behind you from the east." Vladimir, having heard about this, looked at the sky and said: “If this comes true, I am baptized myself!” And immediately he ordered to dig across the pipes and took over the water. People were exhausted from thirst and surrendered. Vladimir entered the city with his squad and sent to the kings Vasily and Konstantin to say: “Your glorious city has already taken; I heard that you have a sister damsel; if you don’t give her away for me, I will do the same for your capital as this city. ” And when the kings heard this, they were saddened, and sent him the following message: “It was not appropriate for Christians to marry wives to Gentiles. If you are baptized, you will receive it, and you will receive the kingdom of heaven, and you will be faithful with us. If you don’t do this, then we won’t be able to pass off your sister for you. ” Hearing this, Vladimir said to the kings who had been sent to him: “Tell your kings like this: I am baptized, for even before I have experienced your law and your faith and worship, about which the men sent by us told me,”. And the kings were glad to hear this, and begged their sister, by the name of Anna, and sent to Vladimir, saying: "Be baptized, and then we will send our sister to you."

                Excerpt from the Tale of Bygone Years.
                1. -1
                  11 December 2015 23: 36
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  And where is he living? He besieged the city of Korsun and took it after 9 months.


                  Not at all . I thought something. that Prince Vladimir, who lived and ruled in Kiev, has more to do with Kiev than with Korsun.
                  And then we will agree so that through Zhukov, Berlin has a sacred meaning for Russia, as Baghdad (for Schwarzkopf) in general - he took it the same laughing
                  1. +3
                    11 December 2015 23: 41
                    Quote: atalef
                    Not at all . I thought something. that Prince Vladimir, who lived and ruled in Kiev, has more to do with Kiev than with Korsun.
                    And then we will agree so that through Zhukov, Berlin has a sacred meaning for Russia, as Baghdad (for Schwarzkopf) in general - he took it the same

                    Prince Vladimir was baptized NOT IN KIEV, but in the city of Korsun (Khersones). You read the posts carefully, dear. Read the Tale of Bygone Years and understand, and here Korsun, for the baptism of Russia. Everything is readily available. I already have excerpts from the Tale provided temporary years, and you keep repeating about Kiev.
                    1. -1
                      12 December 2015 00: 00
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Prince Vladimir was baptized NOT IN KIEV, but in the city of Korsun (Khersones)

                      So what ?
                      By the way, what was Korsun then?
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Read the Tale of Bygone Years and understand, and here Korsun, to the baptism of Russia.

                      You confuse me again, Kiev is Russia? wink
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      and you keep repeating about Kiev.

                      I don’t want to understand.
                      answer me a few questions
                      1.Korsun was whose (when there (suppose Vladimir was baptized)
                      2. Did he rule in Kiev? Kiev is Russia or Sotaki a little bit Ukraine 7
                      3 Russians were baptized in Kiev? Or maybe a little Ukrainians
                      4. if there were only Russians, then where did the Ukrainians come from then and how did they capture Kiev?
                      5. Why is the baptism of Rus never implied in the word (recently) - the baptism of Ukraine 9 although it seems like it was Kiev
                      And lastly - why is the baptism of Vladimir in Russia considered more their than Ukrainian?
                      Interesting your opinion
                      1. +3
                        12 December 2015 00: 07
                        Quote: atalef
                        1.Korsun was whose (when there (suppose Vladimir was baptized)

                        Byzantine (great ukrov was not there laughing )
                        Quote: atalef
                        2. Did he rule in Kiev? Kiev is Russia or Sotaki a little Ukraine

                        Kievan Rus
                        Quote: atalef
                        3 Russians were baptized in Kiev? Or maybe a little Ukrainians

                        Yes, there were no Ukrainians, Russians, etc. at that time ... there were Slavic lands with many principalities.
                        Quote: atalef
                        5. Why is the baptism of Rus never implied in the word (recently) - the baptism of Ukraine 9 although it seems like it was Kiev

                        The above answer. There were no Ukrainians ... there were Slavic peoples.
                        Quote: atalef
                        And lastly - why is the baptism of Vladimir in Russia considered more their than Ukrainian?

                        Because Prince Vladimir reigned in Kiev, which is one of the cities of Russia.
                        There was no Ukraine, but Kievan Rus was.
                      2. -1
                        12 December 2015 00: 14
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Byzantine

                        греческий
                        Russian-Byzantine war of 988 (capture of Korsuni) - siege and capture by the Kiev prince Vladimir of the Greek city of Korsun in Crimea in 988 or 989

                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Kievan Rus

                        Was Ukraine called that? Or did Moscow decide to pick up someone else's name?
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Yes, there were no Ukrainians, Russians, etc. at that time ... there were Slavic lands with many principalities

                        Do not understand . you said Kievan Rus and suddenly without Russian? wink
                        so who was Vladimir then?

                        Quote: NEXUS
                        The above answer. There were no Ukrainians ... there were Slavic peoples.

                        Ie the tribe from which Vladimir came was the ancestors of the Ukrainians?
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Because Prince Vladimir reigned in Kiev, which is one of the cities of Russia

                        And the capital of Russia. which city was it?
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        There was no Ukraine, but Kievan Rus was.

                        But was Russia?
                      3. +2
                        12 December 2015 00: 21
                        Quote: atalef
                        греческий

                        Quote: atalef
                        Was Ukraine called that? Or did Moscow decide to pick up someone else's name?

                        Quote: atalef
                        Do not understand . you said Kievan Rus and suddenly without Russian?
                        so who was Vladimir then?

                        Quote: atalef
                        Ie the tribe from which Vladimir came was the ancestors of the Ukrainians?

                        Quote: atalef
                        And the capital of Russia. which city was it?

                        Quote: atalef
                        But was Russia?

                        Sorry, you are playing the fool, as I understand it ... if you are so interested in the history of Kievan Rus, google to help you
                      4. -1
                        12 December 2015 00: 48
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Sorry, you are playing the fool, as I understand it ... if you are so interested in the history of Kievan Rus, google to help you

                        Am I a fool? I am quite seriously and knowing the story in general is not bad.
                        Khersones-Kherson-Korsun (depending on interpretation) - but at the time of the capture of Vladimir - was a Greek city
                        Ktev to the name of Russia. has no less relation than Moscow, and I would say more
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Yes, there were no Ukrainians, Russians, etc. at that time ... there were Slavic lands with many principalities.

                        Correctly and in Kievan Rus, Moscow did not enter then
                        maybe her first mention in the annals of 1147
                        etc.
                        So, whatever you may say, Vladimir baptized and baptized his subjects in Kiev - these are the ancestors of Ukrainians living in Kiev and the surrounding area
                        Am I wrong about something?
                      5. 0
                        12 December 2015 20: 51
                        Yes. where are the Ukrainians? such is the nation and the concept when it appeared?
          3. +6
            11 December 2015 23: 24
            Add: monasticism originated in Syria. Such names as Isaac the Syrian, Ephraim the Syrian, every Orthodox Christian knows, if he is only truly a Christian, and does not consider himself as such. The Syrian desert totaled more than 10 thousand monks. There were a lot of monasteries. To know this, you do not need a theological education. It is enough to break away from the discussion and type in the search engine a request: Christianity in Syria.
            hi
            1. +4
              11 December 2015 23: 26
              Quote: spy008
              Add: monasticism originated in Syria. Such names as Isaac the Syrian, Ephraim the Syrian, every Orthodox Christian knows, if he is only truly a Christian, and does not consider himself as such. The Syrian desert totaled more than 10 thousand monks. There were a lot of monasteries. To know this, you do not need a theological education. It is enough to break away from the discussion and type in the search engine a request: Christianity in Syria.
              hi

              That is how hi To you +.
              1. +2
                11 December 2015 23: 41
                And you + hi - Russians do not give up!
                1. +4
                  11 December 2015 23: 45
                  Quote: spy008
                  And you + - the Russians do not give up!

                  Yes, it’s difficult for people to type in the search engine a TALK OF TIME YEARS and read them. Kherson and Khersones are confused, and they read posts through words.
                  1. +3
                    12 December 2015 00: 44
                    Yes, these are provocateurs, always dissatisfied with everything, not capable of anything.
                    Look: this "Betman" - there is a plug in every barrel. No matter how fast you can take - this bat is everywhere! And it does not notice the obvious things, or does not understand, or deliberately provokes. How did he end up in Israel - I don’t know? After all, Jews are smart people!
                    All the materials to which he refers are from enemy propaganda newspapers and magazines. Authorities are entirely Masonic.
                    Damn, even a person with a secondary education, and he understands that Russia, instead of spending the gold and foreign exchange reserve, when the ruble creeps down, on the contrary, it replenishes. All the Western riffraff is in shock, for this they even lower the oil, so that Russia will be blown away and start, like Ukraine, to spend its gold reserves, and this "economist" sees everything turning upside down.
                    Hammer on him and do not answer at all - let him burst from powerlessness!
                    1. 0
                      12 December 2015 00: 53
                      Quote: spy008
                      Yes, these are provocateurs, always dissatisfied with everything, not capable of anything.
                      Look: this "Betman" - there is a plug in every barrel. Whatever post you will not take - this bat is everywhere

                      already 5 years old laughing
                      Quote: spy008
                      How did he end up in Israel - I won’t know how? After all, Jews are smart people!

                      Just do not tell a padded jacket laughing
                      Quote: spy008
                      Damn, even a person with a secondary education, and he understands that Russia, instead of spending the foreign exchange reserve when the ruble creeps down, on the contrary it replenishes

                      What for ?
                      Quote: spy008
                      All western riffraff is in shock

                      Spien speaks foreign languages? Does he watch CNN?
                      Quote: spy008
                      so that Russia was blown away and began, like Ukraine, to spend its gold reserves, and this "economist" sees everything turning upside down.

                      But not spending? wink
                      Stirlitz?
                      Quote: spy008
                      Hammer on him and do not answer at all - let him burst from powerlessness!

                      in scared laughing
                  2. +2
                    12 December 2015 01: 08
                    Sorry - are you me? So I didn’t write anything about Kherson or Khersones. And with geography, everything is in order with me: I live, one might say, between Sevastopol and Kherson - in Yevpatoriya.
                    Did I upset you with something? or I did not understand what it was about?
                    I also read "The Tale of Bygone Years". And even modern research on this topic has happened to read. "The story", by the way, also has many inaccuracies, in view of the lack of geographical ignorance, both of St. Nestor himself the chronicler, and of the people of that time in general.
                    And indeed, on the side of me, where did Kievan Rus come from. I am very sad that they turned it into right now.
              2. -1
                11 December 2015 23: 42
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: spy008
                Add: monasticism originated in Syria. Such names as Isaac the Syrian, Ephraim the Syrian, every Orthodox Christian knows, if he is only truly a Christian, and does not consider himself as such. The Syrian desert totaled more than 10 thousand monks. There were a lot of monasteries. To know this, you do not need a theological education. It is enough to break away from the discussion and type in the search engine a request: Christianity in Syria.
                hi

                That is how hi To you +.

                Minus it is not hi (though I didn’t set a minus laughing )
                1. +1
                  11 December 2015 23: 50
                  Quote: atalef
                  Minus, it’s not (though I didn’t set a minus)

                  Yes, Alexey_K puts for you here. Don’t worry. It's not a tricky thing. fellow
            2. -3
              11 December 2015 23: 39
              Quote: spy008
              Add: monasticism originated in Syria

              Specify what monasticism?
              hi
              Hermit was developed under the influence of Anthony the Great and Hilarion. The founder of another form of monasticism, sociable, or cinematic, is considered Pachomius the Great. In Upper Egypt, in Tabenna, around 340, a monastery arose according to the charter of Pachomius, which quickly spread throughout the Christian world. With this charter, the monks lived in separate cells (1-3 monks per cell). Initially, the monasteries did not have a definite relationship to the church hierarchy, then they began to put priests from among the monks for worship in the monastery. Among the monasteries of Tabenna, at the initiative of Pachomius, a sister monastery was founded by his sister. In the East, the founder of communal monasticism was Theodosius the Great, who founded the first cinnamon in the vicinity of Bethlehem; it adopted the charter of Basil the Great, which is milder than the charter of Pachomius.

              and if you write about monasticism. then specify - Christian. Further - this is definitely not in Syria.
              1. +3
                11 December 2015 23: 52
                Excuse me, please ! You are infected with the spirit of resistance and pride "hearing - you don't hear, seeing - you don't see" (I hope - you know where this quote comes from), so there is no point in discussing with you.
                To argue and prove their case is the destiny of the weak!
                I just could not, like a Christian, pass by when the saints insult the feelings for everyone who believes in Christ.
                And now - I wash my hands.
                End of communication.
      3. 0
        11 December 2015 22: 00
        I'll tear the template further! Ancient Jerusalem is Tsar-grad, Constantinople, Istanbul. And a Jew is an immigrant Italian. (Scenic magazine, genetic findings: Italians and Ashkenazi Jews have minimal differences.)
        1. +1
          11 December 2015 22: 16
          Quote: dr.star75
          The torn pattern is farther! Ancient Jerusalem is Tsar-grad, Constantinople, Istanbul

          I like it good
          Quote: dr.star75
          And a Jew, this is an immigrant Italian

          Warmer good
          Now I have historical rights to Turkey and Italy good
          Thank you good man hi
          1. 0
            11 December 2015 23: 05
            Quote: atalef
            Warmer
            Now I have historical rights to Turkey and Italy
            Thank you good man

            In my opinion, our Russian readers at VO were completely stunned by the victories in Syria, and I think that they dream of joining Syria to Russia and its history by Russifying, by joining part of Turkey to Russia as well, and how else to get into the Russian Republic of Syria. Everyone is so eager for a war that does not exist yet that they began to distort the biblical story.
            1. -1
              11 December 2015 23: 12
              Quote: Алексей_К
              In my opinion, our Russian readers at VO were completely stunned by the victories in Syria

              Yes, Aleksey, something like everyone was blown away by victories in Novorossi
              Quote: Алексей_К
              and I think that they dream of joining Syria to Russia and its history Russification, by joining part of Turkey also to Russia, and how else to get into the Russian Republic of Syria.

              In general, here the DLNR is being asked, but for some reason they want Syria request
              Quote: Алексей_К
              Everyone is so eager for war

              Yes, some already managed to get the marshals on the sofas, tearing their vocal cords and erasing their fingers on the keyboard - in screams. neither hold me, now I’ll run away to (New Russia. Syria. Kurdistan).
              Quote: Алексей_К
              that already the biblical story began to distort.

              Well, how without it, but what about the theme of sacredness?
            2. +3
              11 December 2015 23: 37
              Alexei ! You have such a smart face on the avatar, and you carry such nonsense! I wrote above, and I repeat again: break away from the discussion and type in a search engine: Christianity in Syria; and you yourself will be ashamed of your ignorance. Or are you a Jew, too, and the very mention of Christ enrages you, like those Pharisees and Sadducees who crucified Him? - then no questions!
            3. 0
              11 December 2015 23: 52
              You have a little respect for colleagues in VO. Most people know that we cannot win there. Our task there is: to delay the beginning of the war with the aim of rearmament as much as possible. If you misunderstand this? then you are worthless.
            4. 0
              12 December 2015 00: 13
              Alexey K. Do not need to consider VO readers complete degenerates. If their opinion does not coincide with yours, this does not mean that it is erroneous. You must be more modest ...
          2. 0
            11 December 2015 23: 42
            I do not consider the legal issues of this problem, "Now I have historical rights to Turkey and Italy" if you can prove what problems? I repeat once again: do you have any questions to the "scenic" magazine about Jews and Italians?
            1. 0
              11 December 2015 23: 47
              Quote: dr.star75
              I do not consider the legal issues of this problem, "Now I have historical rights to Turkey and Italy" if you can prove what problems?

              What for ? You do not mind, this is enough for me

              Quote: dr.star75
              I repeat once again: do you have any questions for the "Scenic" magazine about Jews and Italians?

              No, I'm for !!!!
              1. 0
                11 December 2015 23: 56
                Well, if you do not mind, decide where you have Jerusalem
                1. 0
                  12 December 2015 00: 33
                  Quote: dr.star75
                  Well, if you do not mind, decide where you have Jerusalem

                  Here, 135 km from me to the southwest.
              2. 0
                11 December 2015 23: 58
                No, I'm for !!!!
                And what, have the Italians done you bad?
                1. -1
                  12 December 2015 00: 34
                  Quote: avva2012
                  No, I'm for !!!!
                  And what, have the Italians done you bad?

                  They supported the sanctions against Russia. wassat
                  1. 0
                    12 December 2015 00: 41
                    Ah, you, what side here? fellow
                    1. -1
                      12 December 2015 00: 55
                      Quote: avva2012
                      Ah, you, what side here? fellow

                      To sanctions? No, I was in Italy, there the cheeses became cheaper - from an oversupply, probably, now only Belarus is buying parmesan laughing
                      1. +1
                        12 December 2015 01: 06
                        And I, I thought for Russia the soul hurts? And, then, it turns out different, after a free cheese, a bo-bo belly? laughing
                      2. -1
                        12 December 2015 01: 14
                        Quote: avva2012
                        And I, I thought for Russia the soul hurts?

                        Why should she be sick? are you OK .
                        Enough to read the comments, then jealous fit.
                        Quote: avva2012
                        And, then, it turns out different, after a free cheese, a bo-bo belly?

                        Not free, but cheaper, there is a difference.
                        if before it cost 35-40 euros KG, now it’s 25-30.
                        trifle. but nice
                        By the way, about the abdomen - not a big bo Yes
                      3. 0
                        12 December 2015 01: 23
                        Glad for you, that's not a big deal. And, if you envy, maybe, well, let him come to us. belay
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                      5. 0
                        12 December 2015 01: 26
                        Quote: avva2012
                        Glad for you, that's not a big deal. And, if you envy, maybe, well, let him come to us. belay


                        Thank you, you are better to us hi
                      6. 0
                        12 December 2015 01: 32
                        Then get the horseradish out. I have many relatives. And, all to you. drinks
                      7. 0
                        12 December 2015 01: 40
                        Quote: avva2012
                        Then get the horseradish out. I have many relatives. And, all to you.

                        Yes, the evening ceases to be languid, when I go to sleep and eat the last pieces of cheese. otherwise you’ll come - no sleep. there will be no cheese.
                        It was nice to chat. Good night, good luck hi
                      8. 0
                        12 December 2015 01: 45
                        Mutually. Got a lot of fun. See you again Good night. hi
          3. 0
            12 December 2015 00: 15
            Show your rights to Turkey in accordance with the law.
            1. 0
              12 December 2015 00: 56
              Quote: dr.star75
              Show your rights to Turkey in accordance with the law.

              Yes . fuck us Turkey, we already rule the world. good
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  22. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 25
    If you do not spend this money now, on a foreign side, then you will have to spend tens of times more, but already on your own Earth, and with a lot of human victims ... sad
  23. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 25
    Let them not hope, they also have enough money, if that.
  24. 0
    11 December 2015 19: 26
    These British scientists from the Royal Institute, seemingly decided to help the bulk in his excavations, this cupcake clearly does not cope with the amount of work.
  25. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 28
    All these British calculations are aimed at the fifth leg (oh, column :) in our country. So that the groaning of the type began, so if this money was paid to teachers and doctors, etc. etc.
  26. -2
    11 December 2015 19: 32
    Oil is already $ 38,68 ... I wonder how we will get down from the raw needle?
    1. +4
      11 December 2015 20: 00
      ... how the chervonets oil will cost - the needle itself will fall off ...
    2. 0
      11 December 2015 20: 35
      how much% do oil revenues occupy in the Russian budget? and how many other countries that live mainly due to the sale of oil? and for whom does the low oil price hit harder? and more questions: Do you live in Russia? (you don’t have a flag) and why are you so worried about us? you heart with us ali gave the wrong flag to you?
      ... minus is not mine ....
      1. 0
        12 December 2015 00: 18
        And I'm not saying that we can't sell anything other than oil. It's just that because of the externally controlled status of our country, we don't even use 10% of our economic potential. And with all sorts of Bears, Nabiulins, Ulyukaevs in the government, it will be so .. .Volodya is just happy while he is on the throne. In foreign policy "thanks to him," our rolls are still tightly squeezed!
    3. -3
      11 December 2015 21: 36
      quietly, there is a celebration of victory over igil, do not bother :)
    4. -1
      11 December 2015 21: 40
      How much oil cost in 1941? And in 1945?
  27. 0
    11 December 2015 19: 35
    like, yes, if this money were for teachers and doctors, etc. etc.

    This is already a topic for discussion in liberal shows. And in real life, humanitarian aid goes to Donbass at times more expensive :)
    1. 0
      11 December 2015 21: 37
      Now it has become shameful to discuss education science and medicine? - Well, well
  28. 0
    11 December 2015 19: 36
    Quote: svp67
    In general, counting other people's money is a thankless task.


    And where are you comrade Have you seen the people involved in this area noble and grateful?
  29. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 40
    The state security of Russia cannot be appreciated in money! soldier
    1. 0
      11 December 2015 19: 45
      Quote: Robert Nevsky
      The state security of Russia cannot be appreciated in money! soldier

      Why? It can and should. This is the same item of expenditure as health care or agricultural support. Another thing is that you can’t regret them for safety.
      1. +1
        11 December 2015 22: 33
        And what kind of expense item do you like for mom? Do you fit into the budget? or take a loan?
  30. 0
    11 December 2015 19: 44
    Quote: Zenitchik
    like, yes, if this money were for teachers and doctors, etc. etc.

    This is already a topic for discussion in liberal shows. And in real life, humanitarian aid goes to Donbass at times more expensive :)

    -1 and you and me. The liberal show has begun :))))
  31. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 50
    Interestingly, the destroyed monuments of history and culture in Syria and Iraq as a result of the entry of foreign troops into Iran and all that came of it, how much do they cost? How looted? Who counted this money? Or what got into the British and French museums from the Middle East, should everything be free? It is not good for someone else to consider oh how bad the gentlemen are the British and others.
    1. +2
      11 December 2015 19: 56
      This is considered alien in the Anglo-Saxons in the blood and at the gene level.
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  32. 0
    11 December 2015 19: 51
    Western bookkeepers probably do not realize that a huge amount of ammunition (in such a huge country like ours) has a banal expiration date.
    So, of course, the state bears expenses, but obviously not on the scale that I would like ;-)
    In the meantime, we will "refresh" our strategic reserves. The rearmament is in full swing. I am satisfied.
  33. +4
    11 December 2015 19: 55
    In my opinion, all these calculations of other people's money have a different side. For example, this calculation is intended to undermine the population’s confidence in GDP. Not everything is good in the country, something is being cut in the budget, something is being cut, and then such money is being spent on the anti-terrorist operation.
    I repeat, this publication is designed to undermine the credibility of the authorities in the country and personally to undermine the credibility of the president. We will soon hear the howls of liberals on this topic and advice on what to do, or rather, how Russia should not do it. If liberals howl, then Russia is doing the right thing.
  34. +2
    11 December 2015 19: 56
    Yes, if these dudes have taken up our Syrian accounting department, this is more than serious. They are planning something (or have already planned it), they come from afar. Maybe what a tricky Lend-Lease? One chocolate bunny has already torn our economy to shreds, now these. And why is it so? I would like to write something good, kind, bright about them, but there is emptiness in my thoughts. The hand does not rise. How many centuries have we seen from them deception, betrayal, intrigue. Therefore, we do not have faith in them, everywhere we have to look for a catch. They are up to something through these calculations. As Winnie the Pooh used to say: "This is no accident."
  35. 0
    11 December 2015 19: 56
    Given the testing of new types of systems and weapons, combat experience, the planned disposal of warheads by the expiration date and destruction of the enemy not on their territory ... - well, very expensive ... for those interested ...
  36. -2
    11 December 2015 19: 57
    Quote: Tor5
    Do not count money in another's pocket.
    The fact is that it is important for the citizens of Russia (not prosecutors, non-security officials and non-bureaucrats with huge and stable sn) to calculate the money, especially in terms of reducing social spending.

    Quote: Denis Obukhov
    Yes, everything is easier. Spends not Russia, and Syria. We got a military base on the Mediterranean. So, most likely, the cost of a military operation of the Ministry of Defense generally refers to the rent for the base.
    And the importance of a base on the Mediterranean Sea, both for trade and for security, cannot be overestimated.
    The base in Syria does not bear any value for the economy of the Russian Federation at all, only expenses. Or are we, having an economy in 30 once weaker than the American, will we try to hegemonic again and try to compete with them?

    Quote: 020205
    Only they are passing by again, justice is important for the Russian man, and he will care how much money he spends for this!
    Yah ? Do not speak for all citizens of Russia! If you personally do not care - then pay. And it is important for me that my children receive normal free medical care (and they are thrown out of the hospital, arguing that there are no funds and the hospital beds and funding are reduced, and I have to save all the savings for their health) !!!!!

    Quote: Dr Dron
    All these British calculations are aimed at the fifth leg (oh, column :) in our country. So that the groaning of the type began, so if this money was paid to teachers and doctors, etc. etc.
    Sorry, war in general is an expensive thing. And in the economy flying into the abyss - to engage in war - the last thing that does not speak about the aspirations of our government really is to take care of the interests of the people.
    1. -1
      11 December 2015 20: 25
      The base in Syria will bring income if pipelines are not laid through Iraq and Syria ... But at the moment, this idea has already died out and is unpromising ...
    2. +2
      11 December 2015 20: 39
      Quote: Warrior2015
      take care of the interests of the people.

      Dear, you are talking about Thomas, and YOU are talking about Yeryoma again. Is it really not clear to you that if we lose and give in to our Western * partners * then there will be nobody to take care of the people, our children, social programs, etc. .. We will all * cares * about the American people, that is, walking in lackeys. Not * warrior * You are my friend.
  37. +1
    11 December 2015 19: 59
    They do it right, they feel a scientific and accounting approach to the problem. Now they will calculate the costs and figure out how many bucks it is necessary to lower the oil price so that this self-sufficiency ceases from a lack of dough and the Russian economy breaks ...

    However, they did not take into account that this was only 3 billion dollars, which does not matter much more or less, because in the Russian Federation no one has been interested in such copecks for a long time except state employees, as a result, they simply will not throw hay over the mark.
  38. 0
    11 December 2015 20: 01
    The accountants are bad !!!
  39. +1
    11 December 2015 20: 02
    Let your IQ count. Spiritually underdeveloped. Spoiled pancake Friday mood am (VO is not to blame). We'll have to look for balance "Neformat with M. Zadornov" on "Humor FM" .. Who do not know - I recommend.
  40. +1
    11 December 2015 20: 10
    Now the maximum pressure on the Russian economy has begun. In the next half year, all possible measures will be taken to destabilize the country.
    If they (the West) fail to fulfill their plans, and they fail, everything will fall into place.
  41. +2
    11 December 2015 20: 14
    Quote: AIR-ZNAK
    historical and cultural monuments in Syria and Iraq

    And in Russia, what are the bureaucrats doing? The Roerich Museum Sobyanin drives out into the street! And everybody cares, the earth however - kickbacks ... And they collected signatures and filed petitions, but he doesn’t care - he’ll put a helmet on the next construction site and reports everything is OK in Moscow sad
    And History, as always, is in last place. Przhevalsky was even lucky; the horse-mare was named. And N. Roerich is so-so .. Although he went three times more in Mongolia, Altai, the Himalayas. And the Church painted it stand in Russia.
    1. +3
      11 December 2015 20: 41
      Sorry, but did you see these murals? I - saw, in Smolensk - sheer blasphemy!
      And because of the creativity of the Roerichs - a good part of the mankind of the Derekhnut. What are the pearls of E. Roerich "when the chariot is directed to salvation - the driver is not responsible for the crushed worms" - this is about us - "not enlightened" by their teaching. Art is not art. One art creates, another destroys.
      "sow the wind, reap the storm"
      Sorry, of course, if I distorted someone's subtle nature!
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      2. -2
        11 December 2015 22: 07
        What are the pearls of E. Roerich "when the chariot is directed to salvation - the driver is not responsible for the crushed worms" - this is about us - "not enlightened" by their teaching.

        It is a pity that they did not read - "Living Ethics", there are three volumes .. plus "the edge .." Roerich is sure that the works in the letter were never seen. And there is no need to pick out the quotes ..
        with such success - the Slovens were monkeys - the great Cyril uttered - you root GDP, beat your head on the floor, before Christ came.
    2. +3
      11 December 2015 20: 48
      Yes, and another: 1 dollar, with all the Masonic symbols depicted on it - this is also the work of Konstantin Roerich, for a minute.
      1. -2
        11 December 2015 22: 12
        Never N.K. Roerich before this did not fall. there is no place for this. But you will forgive - a short-sighted ignoramus.
        1. +4
          12 December 2015 00: 15
          THIS IS YOUR TEXT, AND BELOW LINK:
          The Roerichs' teaching is a religious sect not only incompatible with Christianity, but also directly hostile to it. To be convinced of this, it is enough to familiarize yourself with some of the postulates of their teachings: "When the chariot is directed towards good, the driver is not responsible for the crushed worms." E. Roerich clarifies: "Of course, leave the dictum about the chariot for yourself, otherwise a lot of temptation may occur ..." What is this talking about? Here the possibility of killing for purposes beneficial to the spread of this sect is affirmed. Another example: "The fundamental treatises of living ethics admit the necessity of killing in the name of the triumph of one's ideals." (Treatise "Community" p. 146)
          http://planeta.moy.su/blog/elena_i_nikolaj_rerikhi_tochka_zrenija_pravoslavija/2
          013-09-27-64561
          I say well: type in a search engine - you don’t even need to tear your ass off the chair!
          And about Roerich Constantine, if you work hard, you can easily read.
          Well, and who of us is ignorant ???
          Now look like a moron because of your tenacity.
          End of communication.
          1. 0
            12 December 2015 00: 20
            Well, Roerich, as if he had nothing to do with Christianity. There is nothing to argue about. A brilliant artist, it would be better if he did this.
            1. 0
              12 December 2015 00: 45
              Well, where are you going? They didn’t read anything that He wrote ... It has a relation to Christianity. And very clear. He doesn’t have books, but you haven’t read one. The question is, why did he write Faces of Saints.
              1. 0
                12 December 2015 00: 54
                Dear, well, excuse me, to Christianity, what this relation has. Faces of saints, anyone does not write. Icons are painted, with the blessing of the priest, after fasting, prayer, communion. I don’t argue that N.K. Roerich was a genius. And I’m not trying to assure you of anything. There are just certain canons. Well, you can’t do an operation, without washing your hands, at least you’re a genius. So it is with the soul. Beautiful, does not mean that it comes from God. Maybe just from the person himself. And, a place for this in an art gallery, under the protection of the state, as the property of the country, but not in the Temple.
          2. 0
            12 December 2015 00: 37
            You can put the link yourself you know where. DO NOT READ, and you can not judge.
            1. 0
              13 December 2015 09: 25
              Thanks for the advice - turn around! Then, as close people, we will turn to "you".
              In the meantime, as a cultured person - if you please.
  42. 0
    11 December 2015 20: 18
    Unfortunately, this conflict was imposed on us early. Russia is not quite ready yet ...
    1. 0
      11 December 2015 20: 30
      Quote: From Samara
      Unfortunately, this conflict was imposed on us early. Russia is not quite ready yet ...

      Neighbour! Conflicts never imposed on us in time!
      Unfortunately, but this is a fact ...
      1. 0
        11 December 2015 20: 37
        Here read: http://interpolit.ru/blog/ehskadra_na_mertvykh_jakorjakh/2015-12-11-6174
  43. +1
    11 December 2015 20: 20
    The Saudis and Kuwaitis spend much more on this circus. Although maybe if certain people from these nationalities suddenly rushed to meet with Allah, the situation around Syria would become much easier. But this is all a subjunctive mood, so you will have to spend bombs and wind the hours for equipment.
  44. +2
    11 December 2015 20: 21
    Quote: Warrior2015

    Quote: Dr Dron
    All these British calculations are aimed at the fifth leg (oh, column :) in our country. So that the groaning of the type began, so if this money was paid to teachers and doctors, etc. etc.
    Sorry, war in general is an expensive thing. And in the economy flying into the abyss - to engage in war - the last thing that does not speak about the aspirations of our government really is to take care of the interests of the people.

    It seems to me that you are either a messenger or simply offended at everything and everyone!
    In recent years, thanks to my government, I get public services without leaving my office on the Internet. My children are accepted and treated in good clinics of my country without any problems. I see improvements in my city and my yard, as well as myself participating in this! I see how vile muzzles from behind the window try to destroy my country and people like you contribute to this! And I am glad that the armed forces of my country protect and defend my interests Beyond my immense, because the instruments of diplomacy and economics no longer work in such conditions.
  45. +1
    11 December 2015 20: 22
    And how much money the London Royal Institute spent. To calculate how much Russia spends on an operation in Syria.
    1. -2
      11 December 2015 20: 45
      Quote: BOB044
      And how much money the London Royal Institute spent. To calculate how much Russia spends on an operation in Syria.

      not much more than all Russian institutions proving that America will die tomorrow, and the world economy, with 80 bucks for oil, will collapse. hi
  46. 0
    11 December 2015 20: 23
    Guys ! And someone drew attention to a nearby article:
    DEC. 11. Russia bought 12 tons of gold per day
    I think - this information will be more important for the Russians!
    And these, as they are better called, ANAL-politicians - let themselves be poor, consider it.
    I heartily congratulate you, dear Russians! 15 tons of ginger - is it cool?
    1. -1
      11 December 2015 20: 42
      Quote: spy008
      you guys! And someone drew attention to a nearby article:
      DEC. 11. Russia bought 12 tons of gold per day

      and how did this affect the stability of the ruble?
      Quote: spy008
      I think - this information will be more important for the Russians!

      What?
      Quote: spy008
      And these, as they are better called, ANAL-politicians - let themselves be poor, consider it.
      I heartily congratulate you, dear Russians! 15 tons of ginger - is it cool?

      Well, first of all - 12. You wrote it yourself, but what’s the steepness?
      1. 0
        11 December 2015 21: 57
        Maybe you are not from Israel, since you do not know the price of gold? what
        1. -4
          11 December 2015 22: 08
          Quote: spy008
          Maybe you are not from Israel, since you do not know the price of gold? what

          That’s why I laugh. laughing
          how much is one ton of gold. The current price is now 33,731,636 US dollars.

          Russia in July increased the volume of investments in securities of the US government up to $ 81,7 billion. Such data are contained in the released on September 16 US Treasury Department's next monthly report on other states investing cash in US government bonds.

          what did you say there?
          Quote: spy008
          DEC. 11. Russia bought 12 tons of gold per day
          I think - this information will be more important for the Russians!
          And these, as they are better called, ANAL-politicians - let themselves be poor, consider it.
          I heartily congratulate you, dear Russians. !

          My congratulations hi
  47. +2
    11 December 2015 20: 26
    In the West, decided to count how much Russia spends on the Syrian operation

    yeah, but now we are waiting for the screams: "this is a huge amount of money, this is how many gardens you can build,
    how many pensions to pay ".
    1. -5
      11 December 2015 20: 46
      Quote: _my opinion
      In the West, decided to count how much Russia spends on the Syrian operation

      yeah, but now we are waiting for the screams: "this is a huge amount of money, this is how many gardens you can build,
      how many pensions to pay ".

      3 billion retired?
      What for ? Pensioners are happy with everything.
      1. +1
        11 December 2015 21: 14
        Yes, not everything is so "smooth" in their native kingdom ..., but the pensioners are more likely to prefer now "tighter" tighten your belts, so as not to end up under the "table" of the "benefactors" ... sad, you see, life experience is richer than that of young people, who have a 5-column, skillfully "powders" their brains ...
        1. -6
          11 December 2015 21: 28
          Quote: ia-ai00
          Yes, not everything is so "smooth" in their native kingdom ..., but it is just the pensioners who would rather prefer to tighten their belts "tighter" now, so that later they do not end up under the "table" of the "benefactors"

          And which countries have already appeared, well, under the table?
          1. +2
            11 December 2015 21: 54
            And you are not directly in the "course" ... request
            Ask, say, pensioners in Ukraine.
            All countries where "pigeons" from across the ocean rushed in, got chaos, devastation, civil wars, and even asking about pensions in these countries ... - it will look like a mockery.
            IGil is the brainchild of "benefactors", and I really want them all, together with those who "spawned" them, to be in the same "brazier". am
            USA and Russia Longing for help with the "rights" ... and the STATE DEPARTMENT, with the 5-column of Russia, just the same "got sick" about Russian pensioners. crying
      2. +4
        11 December 2015 22: 39
        Quote: atalef
        3 billion retired?
        What for ? Pensioners are happy with everything.

        Dear "atalef"! Most readers have no idea about the economy and write all sorts of nonsense about the lack of some money for the war. I studied economics at the institute and knew it perfectly well. Even the teacher did not believe me at the exam, she said so - you wrote off everything. She started asking me questions and I answered her for about an hour and wrote all sorts of formulas for her additional questions. She was amazed to meet a student who knew economics.
        So about the costs of the war. If weapons are not purchased from another state, then practically all weapons are worthless, because This is the internal turnover of monetary resources. How much money is needed to pay those who participate in the creation of weapons, starting with miners and grain growers, they will pay so much. All people constantly buy something and all the money is returned to the bank again. Even those that are on deposits participate in this cycle. The bank again pays all its salaries and expenses, and again people return absolutely all the money to the bank. Question! And where does the bank get the money? Answer: prints in the right amount for the continuous circulation of cash in our economy.
        Another thing is if the money goes to the West and something is bought in the West in the same place. These are not repayments anymore, as The West on all currency transactions takes interest from us plus profit for its own enrichment.
        So all the talk about some huge spending on the war is the chatter of illiterate Russians and "experts" from the economy.
        And an example is fascist Germany, which was arming itself with the 1933 and for some reason did not suffer an economic collapse, before defeating it. And an example is the Soviet Union, which 4 fought back from the Nazis for almost a year, produced practically nothing but weapons and for some reason the economy did not collapse, even with such enormous casualties and at the same time several million able-bodied people were constantly present at the front.
        Domestic money circulation does not have any effect on government spending on the war. Just the amount of money rotating in the domestic market should not exceed the entire salary of all working people in the country. And minerals, water, air, bread and animals, etc. - Nature is given to us free of charge and these sources are renewable.
      3. +4
        11 December 2015 22: 50
        Quote: atalef
        What for ? Pensioners are happy with everything.

        Oh, how atalef likes to engage in our monetary policy, but as you say about the plight of the Israelis, it’s anti-Semitism right away lol
        Every fifth Israeli family lives below the poverty line
        Last year, 18,8% of Israeli families lived below the poverty line, which is 0,2% more than the previous year. These are 444.900 families consisting of 1,7 million people, 776.500 of which are children.
        In addition, the poverty level has increased significantly among elderly families from 1% to 23%, that is, almost every fourth elderly family lives below the poverty line.
        "In 2003 Netanyahu made beggars of entire sections of Israeli society - including, inflicted an economic blow on many immigrants from the CIS countries - and repeated the same trick in 2013." His credo is "pig capitalism" at the expense of the poorest segments of the population.
        http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/busines1/2015/12/09/kazhdaya-pyataya-izrailskaya-se
        mya-zhivet-za-chertoy-bednosti /
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  49. +1
    11 December 2015 20: 29
    And how much does the USA spend Look here and draw conclusions in peace!
    https://www.nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/
  50. +2
    11 December 2015 20: 35
    Not well, Medvedev, of course, was joking ... how, in fact, I do not know, but for the Western readership this news will blow the roof, not well, it really turns out that the veterans have been allocated money, but then "how you want to be cool" and buy weapons .. ., pay a salary ..., fight ... And about how much it costs? ... - any war on someone else's territory is cheaper than on your own!
  51. +2
    11 December 2015 20: 41
    I was taught from childhood that it is not good to count other people's books.
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 20: 50
      I remember Putin answered at one of the “public appearances” to a question about the salaries of mega-managers, like, “You shouldn’t count money in other people’s pockets.” Controversial of course, but very relevant to this topic.
      1. -2
        11 December 2015 21: 04
        Quote: guzik007
        I remember Putin answered at one of the “public appearances” to a question about the salaries of mega-managers, like, “You shouldn’t count money in other people’s pockets.” Controversial of course, but very relevant to this topic.

        wink
        And Putin's comments about America's national debt wink - no money in someone else's pocket? So the question is
        1. +2
          12 December 2015 10: 28
          atalef (8) IL
          And Putin’s comments about America’s national debt wink - no money in someone else’s pocket? So the question is

          Well, you just surprise me...
          You see, the state dog of America is, excuse me, the money of those to whom it owes, this America, that is, it is money from the POCKETS of people in dozens of countries. So being interested in the US pocket is not a question of interest in money in SOMEONE ELSE’S pocket, but a question of OWN pockets.
          Facilities Reserve Fund of the Russian Federation today are placed on foreign currency accounts of the Bank of Russia and invested in US bonds, Great Britain and some European countries with the highest credit rating.

          So Putin has the right to “explore” the US pocket! Yes
        2. 0
          12 December 2015 10: 28
          atalef (8) IL
          And Putin’s comments about America’s national debt wink - no money in someone else’s pocket? So the question is

          Well, you just surprise me...
          You see, the state dog of America is, excuse me, the money of those to whom it owes, this America, that is, it is money from the POCKETS of people in dozens of countries. So being interested in the US pocket is not a question of interest in money in SOMEONE ELSE’S pocket, but a question of OWN pockets.
          Facilities Reserve Fund of the Russian Federation today are placed on foreign currency accounts of the Bank of Russia and invested in US bonds, Great Britain and some European countries with the highest credit rating.

          So Putin has the right to “explore” the US pocket! Yes
  52. +1
    11 December 2015 20: 45
    Hm? And who should we convey our huge thanks for the fact that we are there now, huh? Or maybe the toad is just pressing, since the calculation was for more impressive expenses? China hasn’t come up yet, so there are a lot of things that need to be broken in.
    1. +2
      11 December 2015 20: 52
      This is not yet suitable for China
      ----------------------------
      Don't get your hopes up, it won't work. These colleagues are too crazy.
  53. +2
    11 December 2015 20: 46
    Western experts for some reason do not ask the question of how to help Russia in the fight against terrorism


    How why? Because the terrorists themselves cover up the terrorists.
  54. +2
    11 December 2015 20: 47
    Quote: From Samara
    Unfortunately, this conflict was imposed on us early. Russia is not quite ready yet ...

    Oh? It is Russia-Russians-Slavs who become more active at such times.
    Yes, they surrounded Russia, but this is exactly what is needed. We won’t die of hunger, but I think we can do some mischief to our adversaries.
  55. +1
    11 December 2015 20: 53
    In fact, Russian troops are in Syria at the request of its legitimate government, and without any “international duty.” Therefore, Assad will pay for the stay. Maybe in cash, maybe in property, maybe in oranges. And earned authority in the East is not measured by money.
  56. -2
    11 December 2015 20: 57
    You won't be able to wait.
  57. +3
    11 December 2015 20: 59
    Why did the West calculate the costs of the operation in Syria?
    To cause discontent among Russians, i.e. for the same reason that the introduction of sanctions against the Russian Federation for far-fetched reasons (the Minsk agreements should be implemented by Poroshenko, not Russia; the Russian Federation has nothing to do with the Boeing crash, and sanctions have been introduced and are in effect)
    They are happy that Russians are suffering from rising prices.
    One thing they do not take into account is that the people of the Russian Federation have not lost their minds and, experiencing difficulties, people understand that terrorism must be destroyed, that the victims of terrorists do not need food, goods, or housing - they are not alive and so that neither we nor our loved ones and simple strangers did not die at the hands of terrorists; terrorism must be destroyed. But the West is not going to fight terrorists, and this is also clear to us; otherwise the West would not be gloating, maintaining far-fetched sanctions, but would fight itself. It will not be possible to destroy terrorists with slogans alone; a real fight is needed in all countries where this infection has appeared. The world must unite against such a threat, and not put a spoke in the wheels of those forces that are fighting the Islamic State.
    Gentlemen, your intentions are not to destroy terrorism, but to destroy Russia. And ISIS is your helper in this. We understand this.
    1. +3
      11 December 2015 21: 31
      Quote: olimpiada15
      Gentlemen, your intentions are not to destroy terrorism, but to destroy Russia. And ISIS is your helper in this.

      I agree with you, but it seems to me that there is a serious inaccuracy here.
      ISIS (Daesh) is not an assistant to the United States, but a tool created by them and its other satellites like Israel to destroy Russia.
  58. +1
    11 December 2015 21: 07
    My God, how much fuss is there about? That the Anglo-Saxons counted our money! Fuck them, let them count! But why they did it, we need to think about it. Somehow I can’t believe that it’s just like that.
  59. -1
    11 December 2015 21: 11
    First, the Central Bank included in the risk scenario the price of oil at $35 per barrel (now $37)
    Second, this scenario assumes a 2–3% decline in GDP and inflation of about 7%
    Today Putin called for toughening the fight against ISIS in Syria (without the use of nuclear weapons for now - his words). And the call for toughening is precisely due to the lack of $$$ (money - see points 1 and 2) for a protracted war - after all, there is no success in promoting the infantry.
    Money for a protracted war can only be taken from the social sector, but it cannot be touched, because... with a fall in ratings, the entire vertical will fall, and he, Putin, understands this. So the West is not just counting money, the West wants to know what will happen to its, the West’s, money and whether it’s worth investing now. I think he will decide not to invest, but even vice versa - to withdraw.
  60. +1
    11 December 2015 21: 16
    As Napoleon said, every war should bring profit! (not verbatim)
    Costs without profit lead to bankruptcy, and a tax on truckers will not fix this. The program for the rearmament of the Russian troops is already moving forward and slogans will not help the matter.
    As they say, no legs, no cartoons.
    Ps, you can start throwing slippers and hats at the comments.
  61. +1
    11 December 2015 21: 17
    Let them calculate their expenses for refugees. For Germany alone it will cost 55 billion a year, but I think even more if you take into account the robberies, robberies, rapes, etc.
    Today, according to estimates by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, 1100 Islamists who are ready to use violence live in Germany. Moreover, 430 people are so dangerous that a serious crime can be expected from them at any moment. This was stated by the head of German counterintelligence Hans-Georg Maaßen in an interview with the MDR media company.

    But Russia is defending itself, since after the capture of Damascus the bandits would have planes and it would not be difficult to fly to Crimea, especially since the junta in Ukraine would have met them, and is still meeting them with the gray wolves of Turkey.
    It is obvious that Turkey planned to return Crimea, but Putin destroyed their plan. No matter how much this operation in Syria would cost, it must be done and the kublo of these reptiles must be destroyed so that they do not multiply and Erdogan and his gang must be neutralized.
    Putin does everything right, and even if some people think that he is doing the wrong thing, but only those who do not understand Putin’s genius.
    Yes, he may make minor mistakes somewhere, he is a human being, but only those who do nothing make no mistakes, and Putin does a lot.
    In Germany, it’s not for nothing that people shout at demonstrations: Putin goes to Berlin, Merkel goes to Siberia.
  62. +2
    11 December 2015 21: 23
    No, as an option for oil, do you want $200 per barrel? Maybe even more. Today I posted information about how notorious thugs from Syria gathered with the Saudis and presented us with an ultimatum to surrender. This means the Saudis support terrorism. Well, the Houthis might suddenly burn all their wells? All that remains is to supply them with Korean-made Tochka U-type weapons. Will the Americans climb in? Let them sink their ships, the Saudis have already sunk 7 of them.
    The Americans, by the way, lie about both production and oil reserves. Let's create a deficit for 2 years, let them jump.
  63. +2
    11 December 2015 21: 26
    Don't care about the money! How long can you grovel?! It's better to die standing than to live on your knees! And that means we need one Victory. One for all, we will not stand behind the price! Or is it not so, gentlemen demagogues?!
  64. +1
    11 December 2015 21: 37
    Russia buys 60-70 billion worth of American bonds every month. One month without buying is enough for 20 years of war.
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 22: 08
      If we bought so much, then the United States would have long ago overtaken China as creditors. We reduced our presence in their bonds and bought gold. I say that they can sell gold for $200. You can't take too much. About $200. It seems like science fiction now, but it’s better to keep it in real oil and gas.
      1. +1
        12 December 2015 00: 44
        As a result, for the second month in a row, an amount equal to half of the federal budget revenues is spent on the purchase of American bonds (1,162 trillion rubles in August and 1,173 trillion rubles in September)

        Yes, sorry, I was wrong, they are buying for 19-20 billion. It still works out fine, one month is enough for 6 years.
  65. +3
    11 December 2015 21: 48
    atalef(8)Quote:
    not much more than all Russian institutions proving that America will die tomorrow, and the world economy, with 80 bucks for oil, will collapse.

    Ну all you won’t be able to pull it off, well, at least name five “Russian institutions that prove that America will die tomorrow, and the world economy will collapse at 80 bucks for oil.”)))
    spy008 Quote: I think this information will be more important for Russians!
    atalef Quote: What?

    Are you jealous of our wealth and prosperity?
    spy008 Quote: Congratulations from the bottom of my heart, dear Russians! 15 tons of redhead is awesome.
    atalef Quote: well, first of all - 12. You wrote it yourself, but what’s cool?

    The cold mind of an accountant cannot understand the breadth of the Russian soul, and don’t even try)
    Mind does not understand Russia,
    No yardstick to measure:
    She has a special become -
    You can only believe in Russia.
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  67. +1
    11 December 2015 22: 07
    Teachings are more expensive...
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  69. 0
    11 December 2015 22: 10
    What's the point! Cheap/expensive, exactly all the money is stolen into the pocket by our own state!!!!
    1. +1
      11 December 2015 23: 05
      The bureaucrats already have urine coming out of their eyes laughing
    2. 0
      12 December 2015 02: 05
      Dmitry Potapenko The economy received four artificial blows. The first is the food embargo, when we actually banned competition, remaking the market for pseudo-domestic producers, but in reality for para-official structures. The second is a decree on the destruction of sanctioned products and an artificial devaluation of the ruble. Third, there is a prohibitive set of documents for lending and exorbitant lending rates. Well, and now - the so-called “Rotenberg tax” on federal roads. This is a head shot. What awaits us? Continued devaluation of the ruble, depleting all the various funds in the next year and a half. Strange as it may seem, 2016 will still be quite stable, and the main problems will begin somewhere in the second quarter of 2017, when reserves are depleted. There will be an increase in prices for almost all products, services, and further down the list... The authorities will, by any means possible, look around the globe for a country with whom else to quarrel. Because they have proven everything within the country, and now they want to be respected abroad. Unfortunately, this won't happen. There is a competitive environment there. In the next 5–7 years there will be quite severe stagflation. And the entire so-called “crisis program” and the task of our authorities is, as in Gaidar’s rhyme, “we should stand for a day and hold out for a night.”
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  70. -1
    11 December 2015 22: 11
    Of course, I apologize for being off topic!
  71. +4
    11 December 2015 22: 16
    Representatives of the London Institute cannot see beyond their noses. They forgot to subtract from the sum of Russia’s expenses for military operations:
    1. costs for disposal of stale ammunition
    2. expenses for intensive training and practical training of our employees
    3. expenses for an advertising campaign for our weapons
    Well, they forget that Europe is going to pay the Turks 3 billion dollars to stop the flow of refugees. And Russia will soon charge 2 times more (including from Turkey) for the opportunity to return these refugees to their historical homeland.
  72. +1
    11 December 2015 22: 26
    Balyasniks don’t know how to envy silently
  73. -3
    11 December 2015 23: 01
    Quote: unsinkable
    Don’t you understand that if we lose and give in to our Western *partners* then there will be no one to take care of the people, our children, the social sphere, etc.
    Let me remind you that no one in the Russian Federation is even close to declaring war. But the fact that the government has gotten involved in one military adventure after another in recent years is not good! Only a rich country with a prosperous people can afford this, but my Motherland is not one of those...

    Quote: Dr Dron
    It seems to me that you are either a messenger or simply offended at everything and everyone!
    Over the past years, thanks to my government, I have been receiving government services without leaving my office via the Internet. My children are accepted and treated in good clinics in my country without any problems. I see improvements in my city and my yard, and I also participate in this myself!

    Keyword OFFICE! You are clearly close to power and eat well from the budget if you say so and your children are treated in good clinics! And I had my own small business, which simply died thanks to government policies and I have nothing to feed my family or treat my daughters!

    Quote: Pomoryanin
    In fact, Russian troops are in Syria at the request of its legitimate government, and without any “international duty.” Therefore, Assad will pay for the stay.
    Yeah, at the request, which was fabricated by the conscripts, when they had already come to their senses, on the day the operation began. Iraq is also now asking Moscow to harness its power... And Assad doesn’t have any money, it’s trivial... so Russia will have to do everything at its own expense, and this is not at all the price of the exercises.

    Quote: ViewfromUSA
    So the West is not just counting money, the West wants to know what will happen to its, the West’s, money and whether it’s worth investing now. I think he will decide not to invest, but even vice versa - to withdraw.
    Yes, they have already withdrawn everything that is possible since the spring of 2014, when business began with Crimea, and then with Eastern Ukraine, and the remainder was withdrawn in the winter and spring of this year. Currently, the level of Western investment in the Russian economy is estimated at less than 20% of what it was, and our securities on world exchanges have lost 2/3 of their value and are of no use to anyone, even with the highest percentage of returns...

    Quote: Klim2011
    As Napoleon said, every war should bring profit! (not verbatim) Costs without profit lead to bankruptcy, and a tax on truckers will not fix this. The program for the rearmament of the Russian troops is already moving forward and slogans will not help the matter.
    Exactly ! And Bonoparty said “It is desirable that the war feeds itself” - well, that is. just rob rich countries. The problem is that Russia does not rob anyone, but only pays everyone and even fights for them...
    1. +2
      11 December 2015 23: 25
      Quote: Warrior2015
      Let me remind you that no one in the Russian Federation is even close to declaring war.


      Of course he's not going to. The time for direct announcements is over. Now they smile, strike, and then shout that it’s not them.

      Or did the Americans declare war on Ukraine? They paid the traitors and Ukraine is in their pocket.
    2. +1
      11 December 2015 23: 56
      Quote: Warrior2015
      Keyword OFFICE! You are clearly close to power and eat well

      This is some kind of nonsense, although your anamnesis is already obvious.

      Quote: Warrior2015
      Let me remind you that no one in the Russian Federation is even close to declaring war.


      fool
  74. +3
    11 December 2015 23: 10
    Warrior2015 Quote:
    Let me remind you that no one in the Russian Federation is even close to declaring war.

    You opened my eyes to the real situation)))
    But the question is: why did they surround us with military bases and increase the number of NATO troops in Eastern Europe by 13 times?
    And 200 American nuclear bombs are stationed in Belgium, Italy, Holland and Germany, as I understand it, for a humanitarian purpose, or, well, or they are going to butt heads with “terrorism”)))
  75. 0
    11 December 2015 23: 16
    In any case, any government spending accelerates inflation. This depreciates the value of the state’s money on the one hand, and on the other, it increases the money supply, which further accelerates inflation. It seems that everything is bad. But! For lending, the cost of the population and business is gradually decreasing in terms of the cost of securing the money supply! Businesses that survive the crisis will emerge stronger. The reduction of the administrative apparatus (inevitable) will reduce the bureaucratization of the system. LADIES yesterday pointed directly at the administrative apparatus.
    What do we get in the bottom line? An increase in the money supply (in this case, ruble money) due to inflation, with the desire of money holders to level out losses from depreciation. Revocation of licenses from suspicious banks, monitoring of funds leaving the country and other measures put barriers to the withdrawal of money from the country. All that remains is to invest inside. The exchange rate difference, even with our bureaucratic chaos, makes external investments attractive. This leads to a sharp decline in imports. Plus the growth of domestic production. All this is happening under the terrible word for any European “import substitution”. There will be less money in Europe from the Russian Federation, and the Libyan, Syrian and African markets have been blown away because of their own policies. And we are very used to living deliciously off the added value.
    If I were them, I would also count other people’s money - what can I predict for myself? Want an example? GM plans to return the Chevrolet brand to the Russian market through the Uzbek Ravon. It seems to increase competitiveness due to the costs associated with labor. by force. But the capacity of the Uzbek automobile industry is not enough to replenish sales volumes. And radical Islamists do not add stability. Turkish "Cruz" cars are no longer available due to known reasons. But the dealer network is still alive. Are we waiting again in Kaliningrad or St. Petersburg?
  76. +1
    11 December 2015 23: 19
    The fact is that we spend much less, and the effect is 10 times more and this infuriates them.
  77. +1
    11 December 2015 23: 33
    Pomeranian Quote: Actually, Russian troops are in Syria at the request of its legitimate government
    Ratnik2015 Quote: Yeah, at the request that was fabricated by a conscript, when they had already come to their senses, on the day the operation began.

    Really?
    “The Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation between Russia and Syria (and previously between the USSR and Syria) has existed since 1980. And although this treaty does not directly provide for the provision of military assistance, Clause 6 describes how to act if such a request is received.
  78. 0
    11 December 2015 23: 50
    samoletil18(3) Quote: In any case, any government spending accelerates inflation. This depreciates the value of the state’s money on the one hand, and on the other, it increases the money supply, which further accelerates inflation.

    Regarding the money supply and inflation, it’s a strange thing: in the states, trillions are being poured into the economy, the rate is 0,25% - and there is practically no inflation observed (the average annual inflation in the USA over the last 10 years is 2.08%).
    1. +1
      12 December 2015 00: 16
      They tied them up in the Federal Reserve. Calculate the capitalization. They actually monetize the bonds, they sell ours to the Chinese, the dollars went to the side. They do not support inflation in the USA, and trading platforms are in their hands. Look how they paint the prices for oil and gold, it’s a real scam. Remember, all their statistics are a lie for a long time. With the last of their strength they hold on to all the markets and trust in the dollar, if you jump somewhere on them, the whole financial structure will come together. USA They’re nervous, so they’re attacking us. They won’t raise the rate, because the interest payment will increase, but they’ll still cost us the brains with it. According to their program, futures for chests of drawers (mineral resources) must be heated. This is their conspiracy against Russia.
  79. +1
    12 December 2015 00: 04
    Damn, well, the Americans don’t understand, but it’s all so simple - instead of spending money on conducting aerospace forces exercises, we spend money on an operation in Syria, and we train all the pilots according to a rotation plan, and (to save the budget) we dispose of the ammunition at the end of its useful life (it’s no secret that the share of Caliber and K is very small, we use aerial bombs from the 80s and 90s) and this is correct. I myself served for many years and I can say that Syria is not much more expensive than exercises. And from a strategic point of view, it’s also cheaper. Disposing of power supply is very expensive, entire factories work on it, but here it’s time to dispose of it. And for replacement in 3 shifts, our manufacturers use high-precision riveting. In short, I don’t see any serious costs, as if there were no savings... And this is without taking into account related factors...
  80. +1
    12 December 2015 00: 07
    It is not dollars that should be counted, but the potential killed by the barbarians of Daesh.
  81. +1
    12 December 2015 00: 32
    Killer satellite.
    "STAR WARS"... Nudol missile defense system.
    http://cont.ws/post/160213
    1. 0
      12 December 2015 02: 07
      Isn’t this the miracle that fell?
  82. +1
    12 December 2015 01: 22
    A reminder to those who like to “count”: “accountants” are only the 4th caste, after the Magi-rulers-warriors. By and large, their candy wrapper economics in a “fight” are interesting only in the 4th place;)
  83. +1
    12 December 2015 01: 36
    When calculating the funds that Russia is spending on the operation in Syria, Western experts for some reason do not ask the question

    For some reason, they are so stupid, they don’t ask the question: How much do their governments spend on supporting all sorts of rubbish of the human race on our planet!?
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  85. 0
    12 December 2015 05: 12
    Tiger Cupid killed the goat Timur (((((
    1. 0
      12 December 2015 06: 09
      Quote: Shark Lover
      The tiger Cupid killed the goat Timur (

      And then he dismembered and ate
    2. 0
      12 December 2015 15: 39
      Hmm... the “friendship” didn’t last long... request
  86. +1
    12 December 2015 05: 57
    In the West, everything is measured by money; they will sell their own mother if it is profitable.
  87. 0
    12 December 2015 06: 23
    Quote: atalef

    Well, yes, deGoll, beloved in Russia. After spending the whole war in London, he later appeared in Paris with 1500 soldiers and received the laurels of the country of the winner in the Second World War and a place in the Soviet Union. laughing


    Let me just remind you that the Normandy-Niemen squadron (formed on 04.12.1942/05.04.1943/05.07.1943 in Ivanovo) began combat operations against the Nazi invaders on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX (from XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX it was already a full-fledged fighter aviation regiment), and D-Day (D -day) happened a year later, and even then, to put it mildly, it was not entirely successful. Dixi.
  88. +1
    12 December 2015 08: 26
    I'm tormented by vague doubts)
    I think that our “fight against terrorism” in Syria will end immediately after our trophy hunters get their hands on a raptor engine.
    There should already be enough unexploded precision guided munitions
  89. +1
    12 December 2015 09: 07
    Americans better count yours.
  90. DHA
    +1
    12 December 2015 10: 59
    I'll say it mildly. It's not good to count other people's money. ...Can't wait
  91. 0
    12 December 2015 18: 44
    In the West, decided to count how much Russia spends on the Syrian operation
    Let them count their debts.
  92. 0
    12 December 2015 20: 37
    Western fans of Pindo-Tugrics are counting other people's money!!
  93. 0
    14 December 2015 09: 23
    Lord, don’t let us waste.... We’re just getting rid of outdated ammunition feel . The missiles must not be wasted. And here we showed our adversaries that we can. And the entire weapons fleet is being updated.
  94. +4
    14 December 2015 18: 48
    Quote: atalef
    I know Assad will leave

    Isn’t it scary if Assad leaves, then Bloomberg will have to count how much Russia is spending against Daesh in Israel???

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