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US conducted anti-missile tests in the Hawaiian Islands

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On the US Naval Institute site published information that the Hawaiian Islands conducted successful tests of the US missile defense system. Initially, a missile was launched from the US Air Force aircraft, which was eventually hit by the SM-3 Block IIA antimissile missile.


US conducted anti-missile tests in the Hawaiian Islands


From a report by the US Naval Institute:
The interceptor missile did not contain explosives to destroy the target. A three-stage rocket delivered a kinetic warhead that collides with a target at very high speed and eliminates the threat.


Target interception took place over the Pacific Missile Range in the Hawaiian archipelago.

It is noted that the launch was made on December 8. And this is the second test of a missile defense system with similar missiles in Hawaii this year. The first launch of the antimissile took place on June 6.

It is separately noted that the tests were carried out in close contact with the Missile Defense Agency and the main military department of Japan.
Photos used:
http://news.usni.org
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  1. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 11 December 2015 18: 24 New
    +1
    successful missile defense tests

    I DO NOT BELIEVE !!!
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 11 December 2015 18: 27 New
      24
      Well, again, the target rocket flies for some time in a pre-known area and with pre-known data on altitude and speed. An interceptor missile hits a target, with data embedded.

      But Soviet / Russian warheads are maneuvering, with false targets, and since last year already with EW. Every 90 seconds, they maneuver in height and direction, that is, it will not be where it was expected and the missile defense computer erroneously calculated the meeting point.
      1. svp67
        svp67 11 December 2015 18: 37 New
        +6
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Well, again, the target rocket flies for some time in a pre-known area and with pre-known data on altitude and speed. An interceptor missile hits a target, with data embedded.

        This is a moot point. More interestingly different:
        Target interception took place over the Pacific Missile Range in the Hawaiian archipelago.
        That is, above the water surface. Here, the altitude of the target’s flight, its speed, is interesting, it performed maneuvers, etc., etc. So, some kind of giveaway game is possible. Nevertheless, the US missile defense was not able to do this before, so there is success. We would not miss the pace of development.
        1. user1212
          user1212 11 December 2015 19: 40 New
          +6
          Quote: svp67
          Here the height of the target’s flight, its speed is interesting, it made maneuvers, etc., etc.

          The GQM-163A missile, like the MA-31 with which it is made, does not have an active maneuvering mode. It can fly along a low-altitude trajectory to simulate supersonic anti-ship missiles, and along a high-altitude trajectory to simulate anti-radar missiles. Test conditions suggest the absence of electronic countermeasures
          1. mav1971
            mav1971 11 December 2015 19: 49 New
            0
            Quote: user1212
            Quote: svp67
            Here the height of the target’s flight, its speed is interesting, it made maneuvers, etc., etc.

            The GQM-163A missile, like the MA-31 with which it is made, does not have an active maneuvering mode. It can fly along a low-altitude trajectory to simulate supersonic anti-ship missiles, and along a high-altitude trajectory to simulate anti-radar missiles. Test conditions suggest the absence of electronic countermeasures


            And here it is?
            Read about this news in other sources and if you have knowledge. you’ll understand what kind of rocket it is.
            This is a full-fledged ballistic target missile, which is dropped from a transport aircraft.
            She exists. Wow!
            1. user1212
              user1212 12 December 2015 17: 14 New
              0
              Quote: mav1971
              Read about this news in other sources and if you have knowledge. you’ll understand what kind of rocket it is.
              This is a full-fledged ballistic target missile, which is dropped from a transport aircraft.

              Not a single U.S. missile has any means to overcome missile defense
      2. yuriy55
        yuriy55 11 December 2015 18: 43 New
        0
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Well, again, the target rocket flies for some time in a pre-known area and with pre-known data on altitude and speed. An interceptor missile hits a target, with data embedded ...


        You can simply write that there have been tests ... which in reality might not have been ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 11 December 2015 20: 04 New
          +3
          Quote: yuriy55
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Well, again, the target rocket flies for some time in a pre-known area and with pre-known data on altitude and speed. An interceptor missile hits a target, with data embedded ...


          You can simply write that there have been tests ... which in reality might not have been ...



          And why is there such a stir and what happened?
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        3. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 11 December 2015 20: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: yuriy55
          You can simply write that there have been tests ... which in reality might not have been ...


          If they wanted to notify everyone of their achievements, they showed and told everything in detail. In their own style, the production scenes would have gotten bored. And so ... Koreans have a hydrogen bomb, they found the ash-tri-O river on their vast territory, tomorrow Namibia will say that they rummage around Mars in search of diamonds, as in their pocket, because they invented teleportation ... Chatterboxes.
          1. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 12 December 2015 00: 05 New
            +3
            Quote: iliitch
            If they wanted to notify everyone of their achievements, they showed and told everything in detail. In their own style, the production scenes would have gotten bored. And so ... Koreans have a hydrogen bomb, they found the ash-tri-O river on their vast territory, tomorrow Namibia will say that they rummage around Mars in search of diamonds, as in their pocket, because they invented teleportation ... Chatterboxes.

            So you read the original articles and statements in the original language, i.e. in English or Chinese. For example, I always double-check what VO writes and what the English-language site writes. And there, as a rule, the article is more detailed, and sometimes authors of articles on VO distort the original information.
        4. Mister22408
          Mister22408 11 December 2015 23: 16 New
          0
          And take telemetry to the central bank - and then suddenly ... :-)
    2. shooter18
      shooter18 11 December 2015 18: 37 New
      +3
      Do not underestimate the enemy! they are actively pumping up the defense, and we will improve the attack, the delivery of warheads to the United States.
      1. dorz
        dorz 11 December 2015 20: 06 New
        +5
        Quote: shooter18
        Do not underestimate the enemy! they are actively pumping up the defense, and we will improve the attack, the delivery of warheads to the United States.

        I would also like to draw attention to the fact that the interception occurs due to the kinetic effect on the target, and this indicates a high accuracy of aiming at the target. The Americans are stubbornly trying to change the balance of power in their favor and it is good that this does not go unnoticed.
        1. Vita vko
          Vita vko 11 December 2015 21: 24 New
          0
          Quote: dorz
          Americans are stubbornly trying to change the balance of power in their favor

          They have already withdrawn from the ABM Treaty and are building missile silos in Europe. Moreover, medium-range missiles can be placed in these mines, i.e. they also didn’t give a damn about the INF agreement. What balance are you talking about? Perhaps someone is satisfied with the statements about new strategic missile forces capable of overcoming any missile defense system. But who checked? If you recall the history, it was the absence of a missile defense system in Europe that was the main reason for the indignation of the Europeans and their demand to remove Pershing from its territory, which served as the reason for the signing of the INF Treaty.
          There is only one way to restore the balance of strategic forces, this is the expansion of the Russian missile defense system together with China and Iran, as well as other countries that the United States threatens. For example, the creation of a Russian-Chinese missile defense umbrella over North and South Korea in exchange for the renunciation of nuclear weapons, as an option.
          1. mav1971
            mav1971 11 December 2015 21: 42 New
            -1
            Quote: Vita VKO
            Quote: dorz
            Americans are stubbornly trying to change the balance of power in their favor

            .... build rocket mines in Europe .....


            как в старом опусе: "Что курил шаман? и где найти такой травы?"...

            Where do the firewood come from, that mattresses build mines in Europe?
          2. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 12 December 2015 00: 09 New
            0
            Quote: Vita VKO
            Moreover, medium-range missiles can be placed in these mines, i.e. they also did not give a damn about the INF agreement.

            Are you sure that in Russia they are not doing the same? No one will report to you about this, because this is a military secret of the highest level - the location of medium-range land missiles.
        2. Mister22408
          Mister22408 11 December 2015 23: 23 New
          +1
          Hooray (twice), I, also, for a big slingshot ... (when there is absolutely no UDMG and 4t left), one hope for you is for smart ones. Ur
      2. Mister22408
        Mister22408 11 December 2015 23: 18 New
        0
        What does the collective farm have to do with it?
    3. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 11 December 2015 18: 39 New
      +6
      And you ask the Hawaiians .. is there anyone from Hawaii? smile
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 11 December 2015 20: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        And you ask the Hawaiians .. is there anyone from Hawaii?


        I have a hawk.
        1. cniza
          cniza 11 December 2015 21: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: iliitch
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          And you ask the Hawaiians .. is there anyone from Hawaii?


          I have a hawk.


          Present ... love
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 11 December 2015 21: 58 New
            -1
            That's not figs. tongue
            drinks
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    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 11 December 2015 19: 07 New
      +2
      Looks like it's time in Cuba to place something.
      1. jjj
        jjj 11 December 2015 19: 42 New
        +8
        Please note, Americans are trying to make launches from warm areas. From the Arctic Ocean, if my memory serves me right, they did not launch and did not carry out explosions for the purpose of testing the UBC. Thus, they did not work out the interception of our missiles at launch from the North.
        А еще меня впечатлил залп "Калибрами" из нашей лодки пр. 636 из подводного положения. Конечно, по ТВ не все полностью показали, но по увиденному можно судить, что экипажу удалось удержать лодку под водой в штатном дифференте достаточно долгое время. Ракеты в залпе шли кучно. А пр. 636 - это ж очень малотоннажный пароходик. Однако получилось красиво
        1. mav1971
          mav1971 11 December 2015 20: 18 New
          +6
          Quote: jjj
          Please note, Americans are trying to make launches from warm areas. From the Arctic Ocean, if my memory serves me right, they did not launch and did not carry out explosions for the purpose of testing the UBC. Thus, they did not work out the interception of our missiles at launch from the North.


          Recently there have been tests. and a couple of months have not passed.
          A ballistic missile simulator was launched. The Terrier flies without load to a height of up to 350 kilometers. From the territory of Scotland. the difference with Arkhangelsk is only 3-5 degrees in latitude. With Murmansk - 10 degrees.
          I think that these are comparable numbers.
          Shot down. The same standard.
          Kinetic.
        2. mav1971
          mav1971 11 December 2015 20: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: jjj

          А еще меня впечатлил залп "Калибрами" из нашей лодки пр. 636 из подводного положения. Конечно, по ТВ не все полностью показали, но по увиденному можно судить, что экипажу удалось удержать лодку под водой в штатном дифференте достаточно долгое время. Ракеты в залпе шли кучно. А пр. 636 - это ж очень малотоннажный пароходик. Однако получилось красиво


          What is the problem of holding trim when starting from torpedo tubes?
          This is not PCM-52 with their volume in 75 cubes and a mass of almost 100 tons ...
        3. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 12 December 2015 00: 14 New
          +3
          Quote: jjj
          Please note, Americans are trying to make launches from warm areas. From the Arctic Ocean, if my memory serves me right, they did not launch and did not carry out explosions for the purpose of testing the UBC. Thus, they did not work out the interception of our missiles at launch from the North.

          So their whole north is covered with thick ice, there even their icebreakers do not go there. But the destroyers, corvettes and cruisers with the Aegis system there is nothing to do there. They are guarding us off the coast of Norway and about. Svalbard. It is just not far from the northern trajectories of our ballistic missiles.
    6. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 11 December 2015 19: 08 New
      +1
      Looks like it's time in Cuba to place something.
    7. Atrix
      Atrix 11 December 2015 19: 36 New
      +2
      Мне вот интересно почему диванные эксперты вечно "Не верят""Вызывает сомнения" а вот у реальных экспертов которые сидят в министерстве обороны вызывают серьезно обеспокоенность тем что в ближайшем будущем США сможет создать реальную ПРО. Или наши "эксперты" знают больше чем в Минобороны страны ? Или "эксперты" настолько глупы что думаю что в США не могут создать за столько лет ПРО, а вот заявлением про маневрирующие или советские разработки ПРО верят. Одно успокаивает что от так называемых "экспертов" в Минобороны ничего не зависит и можно спать спокойно и знать что люди работают над решением этих вопросов.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 11 December 2015 20: 54 New
        -1
        If the couch experts knew a lot, they would be analysts at the Moscow Region.
    8. paxil
      paxil 11 December 2015 20: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: Starover_Z
      I DO NOT BELIEVE !!!

      Well, guys don't underestimate the enemy. Who knows what developments they have there, they are also made with a little finger. We observe, analyze, draw conclusions, and keep the powder dry.
    9. Tusv
      Tusv 11 December 2015 21: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Starover_Z
      I DO NOT BELIEVE !!!

      It is better to believe and draw conclusions, so as not to idle bullet
    10. VP
      VP 11 December 2015 21: 29 New
      +4
      And do not believe correctly
      They caught a target fired from a letaka.
      You can’t release ICBMs from an airplane.
      And to catch a rocket having a speed of 5 kilometers per second and falling from above along a steep ballistic trajectory is not at all the same as an ordinary rocket going at 1-2 mach and parallel to the surface of the sea. And on which you rebuild on a plane that releases a target.
      In general, some very unconvincing change. This is not a missile defense, it is very expensive and not very effective air defense sooner.
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 11 December 2015 21: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: VP
        And do not believe correctly
        They caught a target fired from a letaka.
        You cannot release ICBMs from an airplane


        Teach materiel!
        http://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2014-12-26/8_start.html - это раз.
        http://www.militaryparitet.com/perevodnie/data/ic_perevodnie/4576/
        Soviet developments
        http://sescha.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=50597

        and this is a video of the process



        And more.
        ICBMs are now conceptually intercepting at the booster stage.
        Но и "падающую сверху" уже тоже учатся перехватывать. Через - 2-3 года и израильтяне и матрасы добьются достойного результата.

    11. GSH-18
      GSH-18 11 December 2015 22: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Starover_Z
      I DO NOT BELIEVE !!!

      Why? SM-3 is a pretty good transatmospheric interceptor. Amer her somehow even a satellite in orbit shot down. Due to the deployment of such systems in Europe, ours are expanding and modernizing the Russian nuclear triad. But the SM-3 has a drawback (as with all similar kinetic interceptors), the SM-3 is ineffective against maneuvering missile attacks.
      Downed shtatovskoy aircraft rocket in the course flew smoothly and did not wag booty lol In these conditions, they shot a commercial about SM-3 lol
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 11 December 2015 23: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: GSH-18
        Quote: Starover_Z
        I DO NOT BELIEVE !!!

        Why? SM-3 is a pretty good transatmospheric interceptor. Amer her somehow even a satellite in orbit shot down. Due to the deployment of such systems in Europe, ours are expanding and modernizing the Russian nuclear triad. But the SM-3 has a drawback (as with all similar kinetic interceptors), the SM-3 is ineffective against maneuvering missile attacks.
        Downed shtatovskoy aircraft rocket in the course flew smoothly and did not wag booty lol In these conditions, they shot a commercial about SM-3 lol


        Something seems to me that super-duper maneuvering is a child prodigy.
        Guidance of the warhead is carried out by the unit in space.
        calculation of its ballistic trajectory and shooting at the desired point.
        There are no additional shunting rocket engines on the warhead (as far as I think).
        Accordingly, the maneuvering of the warhead is created by the existing aerodynamic surfaces. Accordingly, only in the atmosphere. At an altitude of 40 km.
        And this section is too low for CM-3. It is designed for higher points of defeat.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 11 December 2015 23: 47 New
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          Quote: mav1971
          Something seems to me that super-duper maneuvering is a child prodigy

          Not at all! Our emphasis is on this, as on a countermeasure to counter the promising ameroPro.
        2. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 12 December 2015 00: 23 New
          0
          Quote: mav1971
          There are no additional shunting rocket engines on the warhead (as far as I think).

          And our military, as far as they think, is said to have maneuvering warheads. Will we vote - is it or not? Or believe our military?
          1. mav1971
            mav1971 12 December 2015 11: 04 New
            0
            Quote: Алексей_К
            Quote: mav1971
            There are no additional shunting rocket engines on the warhead (as far as I think).

            And our military, as far as they think, is said to have maneuvering warheads. Will we vote - is it or not? Or believe our military?


            A maneuver in both space and atmosphere is a maneuver.
            And in both cases - a warhead can be called maneuvering.
            If warheads have the ability to maneuver in space - this is very good.
            But still not a panacea.
            All the same, she needs to follow a ballistic trajectory towards the target, so as not to break beyond the limits of the CVO. Her main task is to hit the target.
            Accordingly, all maneuvers will be limited.
            No matter how chaos and amplitude of the maneuver was needed, it does not maneuver. You must always be on the trajectory.
        3. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 12 December 2015 10: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: mav1971
          Something seems to me that super-duper maneuvering is a child prodigy.
          Когда "кажется" -- нужно креститься...(с)
          Here are the lines from an interview with Y. Solomonov:
          "Теперь не используется ступень разведения, которая наводит поочередно каждый боевой блок на траекторию полета к цели... Теперь происходит одновременное отделение всех боевых блоков от платформы. Each of them is driven by its own guidance system and engines, а дальше летит по баллистической траектории. Причем, разведение становится возможным на гораздо большее расстояние, чем при использовании "автобуса". Этот принцип позволяет намного повысить эффективность комплекса в условиях преодоления системы ПРО".
          And the second.
          "в 2000-х маневрирующий ББ проходил испытания как на спецносителях – ракетах К65М-Р и «Тополь-Э», так и в составе боевого оснащения иных ракет. Сейчас мы уже имеем практически прошедший испытания и готовый к развертыванию маневрирующий УББ. Ими может быть оснащена новейшая МБР «Ярс-М». Только российский маневрирующий блок, разумеется, термоядерный. Уже существует и комплекс средств преодоления ПРО. А вот у американцев все находится пока что на гораздо более низком уровне. Все рассматриваемые ими проекты еще не достигли даже уровня испытаний опытных образцов, есть лишь плохо летающие модели изделий. В них нет ни макета боевой нагрузки, ни системы наведения".
          It turns out - in vain panic! Amy, as always, drives ads, while ours play silence. (silence is gold!)
          1. Former battalion commander
            Former battalion commander 12 December 2015 17: 19 New
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            All the projects considered by them have not even reached the level of testing of prototypes, there are only poorly flying models of products.

            Ничего себе "проекты не достигшие ...", но которые ЗАПРОСТО сшибают баллистические ракеты ... Что же тогда будет когда оне "достигнут уровня"? Что-то сомневаюсь я, что Ваши слова правда ...
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 11 December 2015 18: 25 New
    +4
    Скорее всего все это было в "идеальных"условиях ,при наличии какого-то "маяка"на самой ракете-цели.
  3. venaya
    venaya 11 December 2015 18: 27 New
    +2
    I must say that in this case a very high precision missile defense is required. Here you need to know more details of the test data.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 11 December 2015 22: 29 New
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      Quote: venaya
      in this case, a very high precision missile defense is required.

      Fair remark!
      What does it depend on for SM-3?
      1. From the AN / SHY-1 radar, which monitors the target, it conducts a constant digital exchange on the Aegis - SM-3 r / l, correcting its course, aiming at the target. And what ... nothing can break this connection?
      2. The second element of accuracy is the GPS system, which gives the exact location of the SM-3. And what, we, in the threatened period, will look at these satellites?
      3. IR GOS kinetic interceptor on a matrix cooled base, capable of detecting in space BB on D up to 300km. At the same time, knowing that its operating frequency is 4-16 microns. And what, we do not have infrared traps on military equipment that will cover the BB?
      4. The speed of approach of the interceptor and the target! 3,7 km / s - at that speed, on 21.02.2008, the ISZr / target and SM-247 / interceptor fired from the Lake Trie missile launcher met at 3 km altitude. Well, if the speed is different?
      And here the main question arises: will the 3rd stage of the interceptor be able to choose aiming errors +/- 3-5km. And if the BB will maneuver? (And he will maneuver!) Will the interceptor have enough inertia and reaction time?
      So, with the approach speed of 4,5 km / s, with the optical (most accurate!) Guidance method, the expected miss is 20 m and the error in V = 50 m / s.
      5. And what will he do with the new military equipment with the GB BB?
      This is where you recall the popular proverb about cunning opu and left-hand bolt!
      Briefly, but tried to the point. hi
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  5. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 11 December 2015 18: 29 New
    0
    We will have a skirmish with them, and then everyone will see the bullshit missile defense of the partners. You will see everything.
    Star Wars 2
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 11 December 2015 22: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: Good AAAH
      We’ll have a hassle with them,

      Tipun to your tongue, as my grandmother used to say!
      Quote: Good AAAH
      everyone will see bullshit missile defense partners. You will see everything.
      They took up this problem very seriously.
      And we will be able to take them off, if we adopt the SZ military equipment in the armament. Maneuvering seems to already be there. yes
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 12 December 2015 00: 30 New
      -1
      Quote: Good AAAH
      We will have a skirmish with them, and then everyone will see the bullshit missile defense of the partners. You will see everything.
      Star Wars 2

      We won’t see, I don’t even know where the nearest bomb shelter is in my area of ​​residence. Most likely he is not. And since 11000 - 15000 Tomahawks flying in flocks and from different directions cannot be shot down by our missile defense and air defense systems, I personally will not see anything and will not know how it is in Europe or America, whether their Aegis gets into our missiles or not.
      1. Wheel
        Wheel 12 December 2015 02: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: Алексей_К
        And since 11000 to 15000 Tomahawks flying in flocks and from different directions, our missile defense and air defense systems will not be able to bring down

        Well, for 14 years a little less than 7,5 thousand hatchets were produced, a couple of thousand were spent, about a thousand were written off ... where did such numbers come from?
        But that is not the point.
        In order to throw these hatchets, the striped fleet should come close to our northern shores.
        Will Russia stupidly look at the slender ranks of the Arlibjörks off its shores?
        Too lazy to repeat the calculations, repeatedly cited earlier, but I repeat the conclusion: all this bodyagi for the Papuans.
      2. dali
        dali 12 December 2015 02: 51 New
        -2
        Quote: Алексей_К
        We won’t see, I don’t even know where the nearest bomb shelter is in my area of ​​residence. Most likely he is not. And since 11000 - 15000 Tomahawks flying in flocks and from different directions cannot be shot down by our missile defense and air defense systems, I personally will not see anything and will not know how it is in Europe or America, whether their Aegis gets into our missiles or not.

        Mercury will help ... first ...

        Secondly, there are more than 1100 cities in Russia ... i.e. somewhere around 13 tomahawks, and if it’s 15000. Are you sure that everything will fly (the axes are already old ... and explode on the spot and just do not fly ... or do the mattresses have no technical failures)? Yes, and you seem to think that our missile defense will be asleep? belay

        Промцентры прикроют ... ну а креативным манагерам, и там другому всякому "охфисному" laughing plankton may have to move the rolls to survive ...

        Вот и получается, что "не интересные города" матрасники не будут атаковать, пром и военцентры прикроют всяко ... ну а миллионники ... тут уж как повезёт.

        By the way, something that you were so worried about your beloved ... it smacks of alarmism though ... well, then we would go to work where, for example, to the Uralvagonozavod, to make tanks ... there they won’t get tomahawks ...
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 12 December 2015 09: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: Dali
          Well, then they would go where to work, for example, at the Uralvagonozavod, to make tanks ... there they won’t get tomahawks ...
          Это вы правы! Точно не достанут: это оборонное градообразующее предприятие расписано для Минитменов! Трайденты пойдут по пунктам военно-политического управления, системе ПРО/ПВО, связи и управления, если конечно LRAM к этому времени не поспеют. А то и с орбиты что=нибудь посыпется "на головы беспечных Parisians свердловчан"(с).
          1. dali
            dali 12 December 2015 22: 24 New
            0
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            то вы правы! Точно не достанут: это оборонное градообразующее предприятие расписано для Минитменов! Трайденты пойдут по пунктам военно-политического управления, системе ПРО/ПВО, связи и управления, если конечно LRAM к этому времени не поспеют. А то и с орбиты что=нибудь посыпется "на головы беспечных парижан свердловчан"(с).

            Well, these goblins also have something to stop ... and indeed this is already universal destruction ... I have written more than once, mattresses are not as brainless as they seem and want to eat deliciously, drink sweetly and certainly not suicides.

            Of course, someone put the cons, of course, and so you can express your opinion - but still ... to know in more detail the point of view of the minusers.
  6. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 11 December 2015 18: 33 New
    +1
    Amer’s campaign about holes in my socks
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 11 December 2015 22: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Angry Pinnochio
      Amer’s campaign about holes in my socks

      laughing laughing laughing Change socks more often, otherwise you won’t have time for the American missile defense. lol lol lol
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 12 December 2015 00: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: wicked pinnochio
      Amer’s campaign about holes in my socks

      Самое главное, чтобы наша ПРО не была "дырявая как ваши носки".
  7. Hubun
    Hubun 11 December 2015 18: 34 New
    +1
    window dressing for the whole world
  8. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 11 December 2015 18: 36 New
    +2
    What kind of glitches on VO? It prints comments, then no, it slows down, it doesn’t let me fix it .... is it for me only or for someone else?
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 11 December 2015 18: 40 New
      0
      Not only ... and not one ...
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 11 December 2015 19: 01 New
        +1
        Well, thanks, at least someone answered .. drinks
      2. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 11 December 2015 19: 01 New
        0
        Well, thanks, at least someone answered .. drinks
  9. AlexTires
    AlexTires 11 December 2015 18: 39 New
    +1
    Apparently this is the final test, since SM3 will equip the missile defense base in Devessela, and will be launched in December .... Wow, they are not afraid that the Romanians will push it for cheap.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 11 December 2015 19: 09 New
      +1
      Romanians will not be allowed to the base for a cannon shot. Only if the toilets are removed.
      1. AlexTires
        AlexTires 11 December 2015 19: 34 New
        +1
        Yeah, about the Romanians - Hochma, forgot the emoticon laughing
  10. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 11 December 2015 18: 48 New
    +6
    It is not necessary to relate to this with hatred ..
    Amerikosy and their mongrel are really preparing for war with us ...
    Their missile defense is also not an empty place - you need to be vigilant!
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 11 December 2015 22: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexandr2637
      Amerikosy and their mongrel are really preparing for war with us ...
      Your fears are not without reason!
      All types of the US Armed Forces, a number of state organizations, leading defense industry companies, as well as small businesses are actively participating in the missile defense program. The missile defense agency of the Ministry of Defense is responsible for coordinating their actions and developing key elements of a promising system.
      US R&D partners are involved in military blocs and agreements, including Israel, the UK, Germany, Italy, Japan, Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and others. A distinctive feature of the missile defense program is the widespread introduction of innovative technologies in the missile defense systems being created.
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 11 December 2015 23: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: BoA KAA
        Quote: Alexandr2637
        Amerikosy and their mongrel are really preparing for war with us ...
        Your fears are not without reason!
        All types of the US Armed Forces, a number of state organizations, leading defense industry companies, as well as small businesses are actively participating in the missile defense program. The missile defense agency of the Ministry of Defense is responsible for coordinating their actions and developing key elements of a promising system.
        US R&D partners are involved in military blocs and agreements, including Israel, the UK, Germany, Italy, Japan, Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and others. A distinctive feature of the missile defense program is the widespread introduction of innovative technologies in the missile defense systems being created.


        I will even tell you that.
        The Americans once asked the American physical society to respond to the fight against Soviet missiles.
        Almost 40 of thousands of people, from members of this very society, responded.
        The scope however.
        Even if 1 from 100 gives a normal and working idea, then it will be 400 really cool ideas from really experts in physics.
        not a single KB. no brainstorming inside the design bureau will come up with such a set of ideas.
        1. dali
          dali 12 December 2015 03: 13 New
          0
          Quote: mav1971
          The Americans once asked the American physical society to respond to the fight against Soviet missiles.
          What kind of rockets? With the Soviet? belay
          Quote: mav1971
          Even if 1 from 100 gives a normal and working idea, then it will be 400 really cool ideas from really experts in physics.
          not a single KB. no brainstorming inside the design bureau will come up with such a set of ideas.
          How much time has passed since those Soviet times? And where and what ?! So far, only about Ijes have been heard, and even that, the prodigy of course, but nothing supernatural.
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 12 December 2015 09: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: mav1971
          Amerikosy once asked ... It responded ... The scope however.

          Amy also connected allies to this problem. Since 2006, they have been actively involved in trials. Along with the ships of the US Navy equipped with the Aegis system, ships of Japan, Holland and Spain participated.
          Starting with SM-3 Block IB - a number of participants are participating along with the US Japanese firms connected to this work in accordance with the agreement concluded in August 1999 between the governments of the United States and Japan.
          Thus, we are confronted by the united front of the intellectual power of the West and the East.
  11. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 11 December 2015 18: 52 New
    +2
    Interestingly, did our missile defense radar launch detect?
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 11 December 2015 18: 59 New
      +1
      And who will tell you the truth wink And it’s worthless to reveal to the adversaries their opportunities soldier
    2. SIvan
      SIvan 11 December 2015 19: 07 New
      +2
      It is about launching a cruise missile from an airplane, which then went above the water (not in space, like a ballistic one). Ours, of course, did not detect, because There are no radars in the Hawaii area.

      Загоризонтная РЛС "Контейнер" для обнаружения крылатых ракет видит на 3000 км, но
      1) in the Far East they seem to be absent
      2) Hawaii is still too far away. You need to understand that this is the center of the Pacific Ocean.

      Only if from the ships. But I do not think that our or Chinese ships were there during the tests.
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 11 December 2015 19: 50 New
        -2
        Quote: SIvan
        It is about launching a cruise missile from an airplane, which then went above the water (not in space, like a ballistic one). Ours, of course, did not detect, because There are no radars in the Hawaii area.


        Your reasoning is meaningless - for you do not know what you are writing about.
        eMRBM is a ballistic target missile. Dumped from a transport aircraft.
        You can google or podedeksit - to understand what is at stake.
      2. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 11 December 2015 21: 34 New
        +2
        Irkutsk should.
    3. SIvan
      SIvan 11 December 2015 19: 18 New
      -1
      Not. Which of our SPRN radars can detect a cruise missile flight over the sea in the Hawaii area?
      Надгоризонтные РЛС видят только баллистические ракеты в космосе, а у загоризонтных ("Контейнер") дальность 3000 км. Гавайи гораздо дальше (центр Тихого океана всё-таки). Даже если бы Контейнер был на Дальнем Востоке, дальности бы не хватило. Остаются АВАКСы (А-50) и корабли. Но вряд ли наши корабли или самолёты были в районе проведения учений.
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      2. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 11 December 2015 22: 14 New
        +2
        For some reason, the picture of the map of radar coverage areas does not crash. BUT!
        Usole-Siberian
        (Michelevka village),
        Irkutsk Region
        (object 1944, military unit 03908) 52 ° 51′19 ″ s. w. 103 ° 13′59 ″ c. d. (G) (O) (I) 6000 km 2010 — 2014 [18] [19] 2015 [16]
        It controls the territory from the western coast of the USA to India. The antenna field is twice as large as Lechtus - 6 sections instead of three, which expands the field of view to 240 degrees in azimuth. Replaces the Dnepr radar.
    4. SIvan
      SIvan 11 December 2015 19: 20 New
      -1
      Not. Which of our SPRN radars can detect a cruise missile flight over the sea in the Hawaii area?
      Надгоризонтные РЛС видят только баллистические ракеты в космосе, а у загоризонтных ("Контейнер") дальность 3000 км. Гавайи гораздо дальше (центр Тихого океана всё-таки). Даже если бы Контейнер был на Дальнем Востоке, дальности бы не хватило. Остаются АВАКСы (А-50) и корабли. Но вряд ли наши корабли или самолёты были в районе проведения учений.
    5. SIvan
      SIvan 11 December 2015 19: 20 New
      0
      Not. Which of our SPRN radars can detect a cruise missile flight over the sea in the Hawaii area?
      Надгоризонтные РЛС видят только баллистические ракеты в космосе, а у загоризонтных ("Контейнер") дальность 3000 км. Гавайи гораздо дальше (центр Тихого океана всё-таки). Даже если бы Контейнер был на Дальнем Востоке, дальности бы не хватило. Остаются АВАКСы (А-50) и корабли. Но вряд ли наши корабли или самолёты были в районе проведения учений.
      1. dali
        dali 12 December 2015 03: 19 New
        +1
        Man, are you stuck chtol? laughing

        By the way, why are you interested in this? Do you need this info, it’s kind of secret - don’t you find it?

        On weak you want to take? Ish, tell him everything, and show him ... are you a case if you are not a meager? laughing
  12. kind
    kind 11 December 2015 18: 54 New
    0
    I think that the states where they need money for science do not spare. They have a strong missile defense school. There is something to think about, if ours in Russia have not thought a step further. Network users do not need to know everything.
  13. individual
    individual 11 December 2015 18: 56 New
    0
    Pentagon in a stupor:
    После образцово-показательных стрельб России "калибрами" с различных носителей будет много фейка и распила штатовского бабла.
  14. mav1971
    mav1971 11 December 2015 19: 07 New
    +1
    Again unbridled hatred ...
    Well, at least someone would be interested in reality.

    For several years, American Lockheed Martin created a ballistic target missile specifically for testing missile defense systems.
    The rocket has the working name eMRBM.
    It is launched only by dumping in a transport aircraft C-17.
    Simulates the launches and acceleration modes of Russian ballistic missiles. as close as possible to the actual launch conditions. Both land-based and marine.

    Yesterday there was a launch close to combat.
    The Aegis-Escher ground complex was being developed, which is installed in Romania and Poland.

    This is bad.
    We also learned how to make target missiles, and finished off their kinetic Standard.
    Very bad.
    For there are no maneuvers, false targets, electronic warfare equipment - and other nonsense (which is so fond of fools in order to poke) - at the acceleration stage there is not and cannot be for the time being.
    ICBMs in this mode are completely defenseless.
    1. shans2
      shans2 11 December 2015 21: 59 New
      +1
      What nonsense about the overclocking section? on yars, it is twice as fast as those before it, like on a mace, while the anti-missiles are several thousand from the take-off place, they can’t shoot down our missiles in the accelerating section in any way .... they will start thousands of kilometers from these missile defense, the Far East, Siberia, etc., ships also for several thousand, no destroyer can go from the coast into the depths of Siberia, there is no sea there ...
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 11 December 2015 23: 13 New
        -3
        Quote: shans2
        What nonsense about the overclocking section? on yars, it is twice as fast as those before it, like on a mace, while the anti-missiles are several thousand from the take-off place, they can’t shoot down our missiles in the accelerating section in any way .... they will start thousands of kilometers from these missile defense, the Far East, Siberia, etc., ships also for several thousand, no destroyer can go from the coast into the depths of Siberia, there is no sea there ...


        Imagine that the Americans believe that its missile defense is shooting an ICBM flying along an ascending path at a distance of up to 5000 km from the starting point. Moreover, the flight speed after engine development is already reduced to the level of 4 km per second. No matter what the start and speed gain was.
        for example, the Romanian Aegis Asher is shooting rockets from Kozelsk and Tatishchevo. Given the input in Poland - they believe that they will reach Teykovo.
        Destroyers in the North and Barents Seas remove everything, up to Yoshkar-Ola and Dombarovsky and Barnaul with Novosib.
        Of course - all launches from SSBNs in the northern seas - are also removed.
        For the Far East and Siberia with regiments in Uzhur, Novosib, Barnaul, Irkutsk, there is Alaska with a bunch of destroyers near it. The Far East with Kamchatka is completely covered by the same set.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 12 December 2015 00: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: mav1971
      For there are no maneuvers, false targets, electronic warfare equipment - and other nonsense (which is so fond of fools to poke) - at the acceleration stage there is not and cannot be for now. The ICBM in this mode is completely defenseless.

      Strong statement!
      You can immediately see the penguin on the flight!(C)
      But let's get to the point.
      Yes, the first part of the statement is true. But this is not at all a hopeless situation, as you think (ICBMs in this mode are completely defenseless.)
      Protecting ICBMs in reducing Auth (the booster phase, as you say). Yars / Topol-M AUT is 4 times shorter than liquid ICBMs and 2 times faster than amov and hunfuze.
      Secondly, dilution of BBs goes before they go into space, so one SM-3 on the 6 BB is clearly not enough.
      Thirdly. SS-25 OUT 170 seconds. During this time, the interceptor does not have time to get it. By the end of the ATB, BBs are already flying along their trajectories.
      Surely there are lotions about which Ascet’s colleague could tell, but Vyacheslav, unfortunately, stopped appearing on the site.
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 12 December 2015 10: 25 New
        0
        Quote: BoA KAA

        Secondly, dilution of BBs goes before they go into space, so one SM-3 on the 6 BB is clearly not enough.

        But this is very interesting. By the way, how is it implemented?
        This is such know-how, which is completely knocked out of the scheme of action of ballistic missiles with a divided warhead.
        Installing your engine on each warhead? Sufficient to overcome gravity, etc.
        If before leaving the atmosphere then?

        Quote: BoA KAA

        Thirdly. SS-25 OUT 170 seconds. During this time, the interceptor does not have time to get it. By the end of the ATB, BBs are already flying along their trajectories.

        Those. You want to say that in almost 3 minutes?

        Increase the time of the Active Site by 2 minutes. And the divorce section of war blocks to the level of 7-10 minutes.
        So it will still be more plausible.
    3. Wheel
      Wheel 12 December 2015 01: 38 New
      0
      Quote: mav1971
      Again unbridled hatred ...
      Well, at least someone would be interested in reality.

      And what is it, reality?
      Quote: mav1971
      For several years, American Lockheed Martin created a ballistic target missile specifically for testing missile defense systems.
      The rocket has the working name eMRBM.
      It is launched only by dumping in a transport aircraft C-17.
      Simulates the launches and acceleration modes of Russian ballistic missiles. as close as possible to the actual launch conditions. Both land-based and marine.
      Ну, ежели быть до конца точными, то сие творение Локхид-Мартина моделирует некоего сферического коня в вакууме, гипотетическую "баллистическую ракету and дальности", а ракеты средней дальности на вооружении РФ не стоят. Договор РСМД пока выполняется.
      Quote: mav1971
      Yesterday there was a launch close to combat.
      The Aegis-Escher ground complex was being developed, which is installed in Romania and Poland.
      To combat what?
      Everything is known in advance.
      Is it fighting?
      Quote: mav1971
      This is bad.
      We also learned how to make target missiles, and finished off their kinetic Standard.
      Very bad.
      Chef!
      The mustache is gone !!!
      Plaster cast!
      Customer is leaving!
      We learned how to make productions - that’s how they arranged performances before.
      Quote: mav1971
      For there are no maneuvers, false targets, electronic warfare equipment - and other nonsense (which is so fond of fools in order to poke) - at the acceleration stage there is not and cannot be for the time being.
      ICBMs in this mode are completely defenseless.

      And now the most important thing.
      There can be no talk of any interception at the booster stage of an ICBM.
      Гляньте расположение ПУ наших МБР и расположение "перехватчиков".
      Here is a visual search algorithm
      1. dali
        dali 12 December 2015 03: 25 New
        +3
        So mav1971 seems like a hidden penguin ... and penguins have 2 + 2 * 2 = 8 because even computers have calculators ... laughing
      2. mav1971
        mav1971 12 December 2015 11: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: Wheel

        There can be no talk of any interception at the booster stage of an ICBM.
        Гляньте расположение ПУ наших МБР и расположение "перехватчиков".
        Here is a visual search algorithm


        And why didn’t you think in advance broadly for both sides?
        And did not mark on this map the location of Berkov and Teak in the waters of the Server, Norwegian, and Barents Seas?
        The marine component is then considered the main one. There will be 99% first-tier interceptors.
  15. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 11 December 2015 19: 11 New
    +2
    Вообще-то в наш век компьютерных технологий простому обывателю покажется, что делом техники вычислить траекторию боеголовки и направить туда оппонента в виде противоракеты... школьникам с их компьютерными "Звёздными войнами" такое вообще покажется пустяком...
    BUT! ... In reality, a warhead (already accelerated to a decent speed at several speeds of sound and in addition to an order in the form of false targets flying at the same speed) has a number of advantages overloading a missile (the task of which is to calculate and destroy kinetically (!), that is, direct hit the target. At the same time, it (the rocket) should perform maneuvers at a decent speed, which in principle makes it an unlikely rival. This is the same as getting hit by a bullet. For reference: I heard that our missile defense systems in Moscow have a low-power nuclear charge and they just need to be close to the target where the power will do its job
    So, in my opinion, all this mouse fuss with the US missile defense was nothing more than cutting the dough and the marketing advertising move to calm the nation. If they (USA) predominantly, as they declare, then we would no longer be tenants. Only fear of an answer preserves peace on the planet hi
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 11 December 2015 19: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Вообще-то в наш век компьютерных технологий простому обывателю покажется, что делом техники вычислить траекторию боеголовки и направить туда оппонента в виде противоракеты... школьникам с их компьютерными "Звёздными войнами" такое вообще покажется пустяком...
      BUT! ... In reality, a warhead (already accelerated to a decent speed at several speeds of sound and in addition with an order in the form of false targets flying at the same speed) has a number of advantages overloading a missile (the task of which is to calculate and destroy kinetically (!), i.e. a direct hit of a target .....


      I'll leave it here.
      See all.
      To end.
      Spend 16 minutes.
      Catch the miniaturization level of modern electronics, computational power, joint computing algorithms.
      These are students - 2013 year.
      For me, a systems engineer, my first education is fantastically great.
      And I'm glad. that this team has one Russian family person.
      Do not want to watch everything - watch exactly with 9.00.
      There everything begins that you speak of as impossible.

      https://youtu.be/KYFvEDH7l7E?list=FLAUMeymNYNuPYcNpoYv1siw
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 11 December 2015 21: 25 New
        0
        Something knocks out a mistake ... I would love to see hi
        But once again, my personal opinion is that all this fuss with missile defense is not worth a damn. Even if they come close to the perfect combination of all the calculations and their real incarnations, it will be possible for a single warhead, but not for dozens , hundreds ... wink soldier
        1. mav1971
          mav1971 11 December 2015 21: 57 New
          -1
          Quote: Rurikovich
          Something knocks out a mistake ... I would love to see hi .






          The second video is Sergey Lupashin (one of the group of the first video) - a student at the Swiss Higher Technical School ...

          You must understand that on such a compact device, with such a small battery life and weight restrictions, it is unrealistic to install truly powerful computing systems. But. implementation itself.
          Scaling to high power and available weights and volumes - and kilometers per second - will not be a problem.
          1. dali
            dali 12 December 2015 03: 50 New
            0
            You want to say what ?! belay That mattresses are about to implement these algorithms and control technologies on their missiles, or is it still the future ...

            Well ... and like, we’re slurping cabbage soup ?! laughing

            And it’s not like the S-400 and S-500 are on the way, but for the mattresses ?! belay
            Quote: Wheel
            Chef!
            The mustache is gone !!!
            Plaster cast!
            Customer is leaving!
            We learned how to make productions - that’s how they arranged performances before.

            laughing laughing laughing
            1. mav1971
              mav1971 12 December 2015 10: 47 New
              0
              [quote = Dali] You want to say what ?! belay That mattresses are about to implement these algorithms and control technologies on their missiles, or is it still the future ...

              Well ... and like, we’re slurping cabbage soup ?! laughing

              Not. Again the message is misunderstood.
              Chew everything and put it in your mouth.
              Students of 20 years, on a scanty base, with a scanty opportunity create systems of interception, joint interception, etc.
              When they grow up, tasks and financing and potential grow.
          2. Scraptor
            Scraptor 12 December 2015 04: 19 New
            0
            system engineering can be seen by flight ... lol Why aren’t they coming to us, but these talented Russian students?
            1. mav1971
              mav1971 12 December 2015 10: 45 New
              0
              Quote: Scraptor
              system engineering can be seen by flight ... lol Why aren’t they coming to us, but these talented Russian students?


              System engineering makes it clear the scalability of the task.
              if 20- these summer students on a scanty base, with scanty financing, have learned to do this, then what can we say about them. when they grow up, get billions of opportunities?

              And students should be considered so.
              Уехал в ним - у них "плюс 1", у нас - "минус 1".
              they already have at least one special, and we do not have this specialist. and it is still unknown whether or not to appear. and if it appears - will it not leave too.
              А то может получиться у них "плюс 2", а у нас снова "ноль".
              When I was studying, we eventually left six people, and this is at a non-profit university. But the best. It's a shame to remember this now.
              1. Scraptor
                Scraptor 12 December 2015 13: 59 New
                0
                systems engineering is usually understood in mathematics, physics and technology worse than in systems engineering
                a third-party computer controls on a long video, these things are not autonomous, although they are easy to make.

                For this, everything is so with the departure. They leave even simply with good heredity, without education.
  16. SIvan
    SIvan 11 December 2015 19: 21 New
    -1
    Quote: LERTZ
    Interestingly, did our missile defense radar launch detect?

    Not. Which of our SPRN radars can detect a cruise missile flight over the sea in the Hawaii area?
    Надгоризонтные РЛС видят только баллистические ракеты в космосе, а у загоризонтных ("Контейнер") дальность 3000 км. Гавайи гораздо дальше (центр Тихого океана всё-таки). Даже если бы Контейнер был на Дальнем Востоке, дальности бы не хватило. Остаются АВАКСы (А-50) и корабли. Но вряд ли наши корабли или самолёты были в районе проведения учений.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 11 December 2015 19: 33 New
      +2
      Let us say that we tested our missile defense in the Kyrgyz Republic over the Novosibirsk Islands. All the same, they don’t see anything there, let them be afraid.
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    3. dali
      dali 12 December 2015 03: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: SIvan
      Not. Which of our SPRN radars can detect a flight ...


      Are you a bot or something? laughing This is already the same time you post ...
  17. Oleneboy_
    Oleneboy_ 11 December 2015 19: 21 New
    -2
    And how do we feel? Pulnut to Kura across the whole country and beat everyone with anything S-200, S-300. S-400. Missed-missile avno. Do not hit-hurt hiI forgot the planes))
  18. Kibl
    Kibl 11 December 2015 19: 56 New
    +2
    So they found where to conduct their tests, in Hawaii the sun is at its zenith all year round, a resort, in a word, paradise on Earth! Consider the laboratory conditions, but how will all this go in the vicinity of the North Pole with magnetic swirls?
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 11 December 2015 20: 21 New
      +6
      They will have 100% success. No one will control. The lunar program of the Americans. They pulled, pulled satellites, either they didn’t fall, then they couldn’t gently lay down and suddenly, bang. 100% landing, astronauts of the lunar module take off, docking. Does anyone believe in this bullshit? And when the towers flickered. Piled on some gangs that synchronously took away the planes, brought to the right points, and then the skyscrapers from collisions fell? Designed for gullible gullies to suck in them the need for operations in Afghanistan. Then waved test tubes, burst into Iraq.
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    3. mav1971
      mav1971 11 December 2015 20: 32 New
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      Quote: KIBL
      So they found where to conduct their tests, in Hawaii the sun is at its zenith all year round, a resort, in a word, paradise on Earth! Consider the laboratory conditions, but how will all this go in the vicinity of the North Pole with magnetic swirls?


      Heard nothing about the trials in the Hebrides?
      1. dali
        dali 12 December 2015 03: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: mav1971
        Heard nothing about the trials in the Hebrides?

        And you tell me, but references to the studio ... and there it will be seen ... laughing
  19. BOB044
    BOB044 11 December 2015 20: 27 New
    0
    They are afraid of yet another chatter to seem miserable. That's where they break.
  20. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 December 2015 20: 52 New
    -1
    It’s they who are preparing to fly the clouds of North Korean and Iranian missiles. laughing And we all believe them.

    Хорошо бы под видом испытаний "Ангары-5", втихаря, вместо болванок запустить несколько орбитальных боеголовок на высоту, обеспечивающую срок баллистического существования лет в 30-40. Информацию об этом передать "to partners" по дипломатическим каналам, а открыто не признавать.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 11 December 2015 22: 55 New
      0
      It doesn’t work, the pancake’s orbit needs to be adjusted regularly .. And then we ourselves will fall on the cumpol.
  21. Mera joota
    Mera joota 11 December 2015 22: 09 New
    +1
    I believe that this news is not the main one, on December 9, 2015, the Americans launched the second launch of a new interceptor missile, while it’s just a launch
    Acquisition, Technology and Logistics Agency (ATLA) of Japan's Defense Ministry and the United States Missile Defense Agency, in collaboration with the United States Navy, announced the successful test launch of the Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) Block IIA interceptor missile.

    Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) Block IIA has a missile diameter increased to 21 inches (533 mm), faster speed and range, better maneuverability and a new GOS. This is a real danger, there is reason to think ...
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  22. Barakuda
    Barakuda 11 December 2015 22: 34 New
    +2
    Laziness was to read everything. But I have a question - How long does a missile defense need, what would a retaliatory strike be contained? However, they still need to be determined, filtered out from false ones, etc.
    Если одна АПЛ подо льдами лежит на дне пару недель после первой "заварухи", может всплыть и пол Северной америки снести..Какие нафиг противоракеты..Когда уже компы только в бункерах работают,и оставшиеся в живых морзянкой стучат. А подводники,они такие - боевой приказ, и действуй если связи нет.
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 11 December 2015 23: 37 New
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      Quote: Barracuda
      Laziness was to read everything. But I have a question - How long does a missile defense need, what would a retaliatory strike be contained? However, they still need to be determined, filtered out from false ones, etc.
      Если одна АПЛ подо льдами лежит на дне пару недель после первой "заварухи", может всплыть и пол Северной америки снести..Какие нафиг противоракеты..Когда уже компы только в бункерах работают,и оставшиеся в живых морзянкой стучат. А подводники,они такие - боевой приказ, и действуй если связи нет.


      on the first point.
      2 missiles on the 1 ICBM with the task of intercepting to the stage of divorce BB.
      3-5 nuclear explosions that are at an altitude below 400-500 km - for 100% of the selection of combat and false targets among the heap of light on the radar.
      Then, spot work on real warheads from the United States and around the United States.

      According to the Premier League.
      Do not lie at the bottom. Do not know how.
      100 times already subplot wrote about it. here too.
  23. Old26
    Old26 11 December 2015 22: 53 New
    +1
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    What kind of glitches on VO? It prints comments, then no, it slows down, it doesn’t let me fix it .... is it for me only or for someone else?

    I had an hour ago.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 11 December 2015 22: 56 New
      0
      It happens .. I inserted the picture for half an hour .. glitches. 40 minutes ago, figs to you.
  24. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 11 December 2015 22: 59 New
    +2
    And the target rocket and the interceptor missile were fired from the same ship? Then I’m not surprised if the kinetic interceptor hit the target missile, which could theoretically fly 300km, and by the limitations for testing - 100km. And slowly and sadly
  25. Gadzilla
    Gadzilla 11 December 2015 23: 23 New
    +1
    Испытания их для отмывки бабла. Потом скажут своему электорату "Мы спасем мир от этих Русских"
    1. smith7
      smith7 12 December 2015 09: 55 New
      0
      Они привыкли успешно обманывать свой "электорат". Задорнов прав в своем "они тупые". Но тупые там не все. Очень умны и ловки американцы по части "сравнительно честного отЪема денег. Система ПРО это конечно технически очень круто, но это не на сто процентов спасает от ядерной зимы американского континента. Как ни крути... Развитие оружия ядерного сдерживания (средств для нанесения ударов), даже усложненного системами для прохождения ПРО, дешевле и эффективнее нежели создания систем ПРО. Технически это как "попасть пулей в пулю". Архи сложно, архи дорого. Но "супостаты" достигли серьезных результатов, которые, однако, на 100% не гарантируют создание антиракетного "зонтика". Американские избиратели не желают разбираться в технических тонкостях системы ПРО, а зря... Деньги почти "на ветер", если не считать технологических рывков сделанных на пути создания систем. Ракета SM-3 - безусловно технический шедевр, но фантастически дорогой.
  26. Barakuda
    Barakuda 12 December 2015 00: 14 New
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    Quote: mav1971
    3-5 nuclear explosions oncoming at an altitude of 400-500 km - for 100% selection

    What kind of circus did you study at West Point? What breeding, if an exchange of blows has already taken place! And satellites, like sailboats soar without control. Or, for 100-200 km from the US coast, boats of the type belonging to Russia do not sail, a lot of facts of US sucker. Torpedo on the extreme coast, and USE!
    Do not lie at the bottom. Do not know how.
    100 times already subplot wrote about it. here too.

    But somehow I didn’t notice, the Russian comrades tell me something completely different, they go practically to the Caribbean and normally. Even the eyes are not shown.
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 12 December 2015 10: 38 New
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      Quote: Barracuda

      What kind of circus did you learn at Waist Point? What breeding, if an exchange of blows has already taken place!

      There are books published by mechanical engineering. edited by Volkov. just for specialized universities. It describes the current algorithm for the selection in space of real warheads from false targets, dipole fields, etc. the method of counter blasting a nuclear warhead.


      Quote: Barracuda

      But somehow I didn’t notice, the Russian comrades tell me something completely different, they go practically to the Caribbean and normally. Even the eyes are not shown.

      It has been more than once here.
      NPS cannot go to the bottom due to the specific location of components and assemblies and precisely in the lower part of the hull.
      And here they go in the Caribbean?
  27. vfck
    vfck 12 December 2015 02: 19 New
    0
    Desa, don’t believe it, the United States has never really succeeded in successful trials about. stop
  28. Abakan
    Abakan 12 December 2015 06: 24 New
    0
    day (wife’s sabakins) do not miss another
    )) Already in Hawaii, about to check the answer, they are waiting for something
  29. Old26
    Old26 12 December 2015 18: 26 New
    0
    Прочитал почти полторы сотни комментов и стало честно говоря грустно. Пара-тройка человек пишет более-менее реальные посты, остальные оперируют или фантазиями типа ОБС (как вариант - слышал звон, но не знаю где он), другие стойко верят в то, что раз американцы, значит все, что они делают - фуфло. Печально, что достаточно "знаковая" для нас тема стала объектом или фантазий или откровенных насмешек над противником...