Aircraft of the American coalition again "missed", inflicting another blow to the positions of the Syrian armed forces

The spokesman for the Ministry of Defense of the Syrian Arab Republic, Brigadier General Ali Mayhub, told the media that aviation the so-called American anti-terrorist coalition once again strangely “missed” and dealt a blow to the Syrian military. And again the blow fell on the positions of the SAR Armed Forces in the province of Deir ez-Zor. As a result of the air raid, three Syrian soldiers were killed and at least thirty were injured.

RIA News cites the statement of the Syrian general:

While our troops repel attacks by the DAISH (ISIL) terrorists in the eastern zone, the US-led coalition planes attacked one of our troops’s positions in Deir-ez-Zor, which resulted in the death of three servicemen and the wounding of thirty, as well as the destruction of weapons, military and special equipment and facilities.

This is the second “miss” of the so-called coalition planes, which resulted in a blow to the positions of the Syrian government forces. Last Sunday, in the province of Deir ez-Zor, three Syrian fighters were victims of air raids of coalition aircraft led by the United States, and 16 were injured.

It is hardly possible to call a NATO aircraft strike against the positions of the armed forces of the SAR accident or coincidence. All this is reminiscent of a planned action on the implementation of the United States and allied tasks, which are least of all associated with the real struggle against international terrorism.

Comments

[Wolka]

it's time to punish the "blind" for such things ...

[subbtin.725]

All the same vile tactics on the verge of a foul.

[kil 31]

Brigadier General Ali Maykhub told the media that the aircraft of the so-called American anti-terrorist coalition once again strangely “missed”

This is just the beginning, they are just getting started. I can only recommend one thing. When on any sector of the front you are preparing an offensive, drive there "Armor." The barmaley will see that you have moved and will certainly complain to their curators and they will arrive.

[Tatyana]

The name itself, the American Coalition Against ISIS, is Machiavellian.
The American Machiavellian strategists by this name simply hypnotically cover their true intentions and goals in Syria in the eyes of the world community, which allows the United States not only to untie its hands on the BV and oppose the Syrian armed forces, despite the Assad’s assistance from Russia, but also gain time in the eyes of the world community as a supposedly “fair international peacekeeper”. While the peoples and the world community, in the course of the divergence in practice of dealing with the United States, will figure out what's what, the United States hopes that they will be able to smash the Syrian armed forces like an elephant in a china shop.
Therefore, it is necessary in the media to actively speak out also against the very name “American coalition against ISIS” - rename it to “American coalition in defense of DIASH”. It is necessary and important to call a spade a spade.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Tatiana

need to be more active in the media

Suppose this goes through in our media, but neither I nor you are a decree to the Western media. They have their own master. He dictates what to do and what to say.

[Tatyana]

afdjhbn67 (2)
Tatyana, then the Turks will push propaganda to the limit and go into Syria under a drum battle, and Assad will have nothing to oppose them ..

1. If such things are announced at the government level, then foreign officials from other countries and the Western media will be forced to repeat this.
2. In addition, foreigners also read and watch our media. There are still bloggers.
3. Nothing stronger adheres to the reputation of people and states and does not spread as quickly as the corresponding “labels” - since their short meaning affects all people very quickly and clearly.

The propaganda is strong. It works anyway. And there are certain “holes” in the media and word of mouth for the dissemination of information.
You just need to work in this direction more actively. And then under a lying stone, water does not flow

[Dali]

Propaganda can be strong ... but when there is no answer, such propaganda works only minus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Therefore, the next time there should not be or should be a RESPONSE ... the pretext can be any if it is necessary to observe political realities ...

[shed]

there is RT, etc.

[Nick]

Quote: Tatiana

"American coalition against ISIS"

Yeah, bees versus honey ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

information for consideration: US Bombs Russian Troops Who Discovered Obama's Terror Leaders In Tennessee

A new report reports today that the United States, supporting terrorists operating in the Levant zone, carried out a bombardment of the Syrian Arab Army (CAA), located in the province of Deir ez Zor in an attempt to destroy a group of elite Russian special forces acting there, as this group revealed the secret of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). This applies to ratline, the evacuation routes for ISIS terrorist leaders from this and other war zones, in Dover, Tennessee.

According to this report, four US military aircraft fired nine missiles against the Syrian army last night, at least three Syrian soldiers were killed and 4 more were injured, the Syrian government designated this as an “act of aggression”, and the Syrian Foreign Ministry has already sent an official protest to the Security Council UN.

The death toll of this raid intentionally carried out by the Obama regime against the Federation and the Syrian armed forces fighting against ISIS terrorists would be significantly higher if not for a preliminary warning from the Russian Armed Forces, which monitored the airspace of this zone during this attack.

As to why the Obama regime targeted this elite special forces group, the report explains that it was because of the American fear that the group had uncovered a monstrous CIA conspiracy to evacuate the top ISIS leaders of this sector of the front from the war zone, in a secret “commune / training camp” in Dover, Tennessee, called Islamville. It is located 51 kilometers (32 miles) from the US Army base at Fort Campbell, where these terrorists are being trained to be trained in shoulder-firing anti-aircraft missile systems — and which just last week, December 2, saw an incident involving these terrorists ... When, as a result of training, terrorists accidentally, "by mistake", shot down an AH-64 Apache helicopter, killing two: Chief Warrant Officer 2nd Class Alex Caraballoleon and Chief Warrant Officer 2nd Class Kevin M. Weiss
http://so-l.ru/news/show/bombya_pozicii_siriyskoy_armii_amerikanci_hoteli_un

[veksha50]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

if not for a preliminary warning from the Russian Aerospace Forces, which were monitoring the airspace of this zone during this attack.

To be honest, I am still surprised that not a single plane of the "coalition" has been shot down in all the time ...

After all, in the end, they are there bombing, storming the territory of a foreign and sovereign country, without any UN mandate ... There is, by all laws, aggression ...

And I just don’t understand - what is holding back both Assad and Putin ??? Why do not at least some means of air defense cover the position of the Syrian units ??? I deliberately do not talk about Russian special forces - either he is there, or he is not there ... But, even more so, if he is there - on hand, so why are they NOT covering him too ???

Well, they would have shot down a "coalition" plane over YOUR territory ... Aggressor aircraft ... What, would the Amers Syrians be exposed as aggressors to the UN ??? So what ??? They already openly declare their goals, and act ... But if at least one plane "stumbles" in the Syrian sky, declaring open war on Syria means declaring war on Russia ... And this is no longer a game of war, this is a full-scale thermonuclear war ...

[varov14]

The special forces must have hand-held MANPADS, they shot down amerov, and then prove who shot them down, you can get Amerz.kie for such a case. Naughty so naughty.

[ermak.sidorov]

... and even better so that the special forces for such cases had manual BUK-M ...

... they are trying to take revenge on the Kurvs for their specialists, whom we, together with the barmales, plowed, but here are bad luck and no flyers from them and mazil bombers

[sharp-lad]

The height of aviation in the sky of Syria does not allow the use of MANPADS.

[uralex]

To be honest, I am still surprised that not a single plane of the "coalition" has been shot down.

The Americans are just waiting for this to officially blame the Syrian army and helping Russia aiding terrorism ... Then NATO’s hands will be untied ...

[Countermeasure]

You can see right away that a person thinks and understands with his head how this provocative strategy works for them.

[Countermeasure]

You can see right away that a person thinks and understands with his head how this provocative strategy works for them.

[Things]

Quote: uralex

The Americans are just waiting for this to officially blame the Syrian army and helping Russia aiding terrorism ... Then NATO’s hands will be untied ...

An interesting point of view.
And the murder of Syrian citizens and military personnel of the government army and the destruction of state infrastructure on the territory of Syria itself does not untie the hands of a legitimate government for the legitimate and reasonable protection of its citizens and its statehood as a whole ?!
If you cover potentially dangerous areas and facilities of the Syrian army with air defense means, then the US pilots will probably need to destroy these air defense systems first, and this cannot be called / justified as measures of a "counter-terrorist" operation!
The United States, like other members of the "coalition", are obliged to coordinate with the Syrian government the routes and areas of the forthcoming bombing within the framework of the CTO, as Russia is doing.Otherwise, the devil knows what.
Under no circumstances should Syria repeat the Yugoslav, Iraqi and Libyan script!
Once Russia has already managed to prevent such a scenario in Syria (a couple of years ago), it would be great to save Syria even now.

[Sandov]

Quote: Asiat

Under no circumstances should Syria repeat the Yugoslav, Iraqi and Libyan script!

I agree with you.

[Rrrj]

Quote: uralex

The Americans are just waiting for this to officially blame the Syrian army and helping Russia in aiding terrorism ...

Here it is not necessary to carry nonsense.

[Countermeasure]

What nonsense are you saying dear? If anyone beats a coalition plane in the area of ​​deployment of the Syrian troops. immediate entry of the no-fly zone and the Libyan scenario will follow. This is what Americans need to declare Assad an aggressor and sweep away everything that is left there, and squeeze the Russian Aerospace Forces by blocking the straits. And accuse the UN of aiding the aggressor and tyrant. What is the interesting route for the supply of ammunition and supplies? Have you looked at the map? And no one will unleash a nuclear conflict on this occasion.

[Rrrj]

Quote: Countermeasure

If anyone beats a coalition plane in the area of ​​deployment of the Syrian troops. immediate entry of the no-fly zone and the Libyan scenario will follow. This is what Americans need to declare Assad an aggressor and sweep away everything that is left there, and squeeze the Russian Aerospace Forces by blocking the straits. And accuse the UN of aiding the aggressor and tyrant. What is the interesting route for the supply of ammunition and supplies?

No bullshit - what now to let them wet us and be silent?
What kind of idiocy - you need to write in the toilet - and protect your homeland.

[Sandov]

Quote: Countermeasure

What nonsense are you saying dear?

And what can you offer in return for this?

[shed]

you yourself at least understand that write nonsense who can introduce a no-fly zone there, there is a legitimate government of Syria and the country that was officially asked to help, all the rest are free Yugoslavia will not be those times

[Countermeasure]

What nonsense are you saying dear? If anyone beats a coalition plane in the area of ​​deployment of the Syrian troops. immediate entry of the no-fly zone and the Libyan scenario will follow. This is what Americans need to declare Assad an aggressor and sweep away everything that is left there, and squeeze the Russian Aerospace Forces by blocking the straits. And accuse the UN of aiding the aggressor and tyrant. What is the interesting route for the supply of ammunition and supplies? Have you looked at the map? And no one will unleash a nuclear conflict on this occasion.

[Rrrj]

Quote: veksha50

And I just don’t understand - what is holding back both Assad and Putin ???

It also surprises me - what kind of chaos?
+ Who was yelling rya - not tired yet?

[Sandov]

Quote: veksha50

To be honest, I am still surprised that not a single plane of the "coalition" has been shot down in all the time ...

Gringo with impunity and purposefully bombed the Syrian army, why they are not shot down?

[Suhow]

Yes, and we can talk about the protection of their territories and troops, when a coalition plane was shot down. As for the Turkish provocation, their allies spoke in the same vein ...

[Mister22408]

"Apache" to shoot down with "stinger"? ... Eh ... It is possible, but difficult for a master of military affairs, and here - hooligans with beards. They practiced practical firing from MANPADS - what they beat interestingly ... The base is 32 miles away, the guard fell 12 miles from the base - such a powerful MANPADS, probably two-armed :-)
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/2015/12/04/army-releases-na

mes-aviators-killed-apache-crash-near-fort-campbell / 76777748 /
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikit3VEsc-g

[Alexey-74]

they will continue to act, it will be worse ... Russia needs to do something. It may accidentally drop their plane .... the route is not agreed, did not respond, and carry the other crap .... then apologize for the downed plane

[fif21]

Quote: Alexey-74

Russia needs to do something

1. It is necessary to prepare the world "public opinion" -Americans in Syria are bombing government troops and for this they can be punished.
2. Syria to warn the United States that in the event of strikes against Syrian troops, aircraft will be destroyed by Syrian air defense.
3.Obama monkey with a grenade.

[Svetlana]

Quote: fif21

3.Obama monkey with a grenade.

[veksha50]

Quote: keel 31

This is only the beginning, they only come in taste.

Here, oddly enough, there is only one way out ...

Since the UN, eyeless and point-blank, does not see that the whole gang-coalition is frenching on the territory of a foreign state and destroying its people, it remains only to soak and soak the barmaley with double-triple intensity, so that later the United States and its allies could no longer justify their own " mistakes ", for a simple reason - there are no barmaleevs in Syria ...

[Sasha 19871987]

IT IS NECESSARY FOR INSTALLATIONS WITH 400 SYRIAN OPERATORS TO LAND, let punish clumsy pilots with missiles ...

[Sandov]

Quote: sasha 19871987

IT IS NECESSARY FOR INSTALLATIONS WITH 400 SYRIAN OPERATORS TO LAND, let punish clumsy pilots with missiles ...

They still need to be trained and trained. It might be better to announce the no-fly zone loudly at the UN and shoot down all the crap that gets there.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: subbtin.725

All the same vile tactics on the verge of a foul.

Yes, this is not "on the verge of a foul", it is a direct blow to the face. And not even Assad - us. "You fly there, bomb, and we salivated pills at you and we will concoct what we think is necessary."

You need to react, and react harshly. I don’t know, maybe a second Vietnam will come out ... Here, in Russia, a lot can be argued - not at the time, but there is no money, but the economy, yes sanctions, and victims ...

I know one thing for sure - our men with titanium balls there, in Syria, are not afraid of a second Vietnam. Maybe they are even waiting for the opportunity to finally give vent to feelings. By myself, I know this when you do not think about anything - only forward and only tear. To shreds ... And you don’t hear any orders, and a smart commander will not stop at such a moment.

[Countermeasure]

You, dear, are apparently mistaken about the reason for our presence in Syria and the deployment of the C 400 there. This is more a political decision than a military one.

[Countermeasure]

You, dear, are apparently mistaken about the reason for our presence in Syria and the deployment of the C 400 there. This is more a political decision than a military one.

[Blondy]

Quote: subbtin.725

All the same vile tactics on the verge of a foul.

In my opinion already beyond the bounds. I apologize, of course, but according to Wikipedia, "separate components" have already been delivered to Syria.
I quote: Russian President Vladimir V. Putin, in an interview for the Associated Press and Channel One, said that certain components of the S-300 had already been delivered to Syria. [21]

It is supposed to supply 144 missiles [22].

In September 2014, the president said * we delivered individual components, but the entire supply was not completed, we have suspended it for now. But if we see that some steps are being taken to violate existing international standards, then we will think about what to do in the future, including the supply of such sensitive weapons *
* Source ↑ http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/19143
It may be enough to lower such a greyhound and it is time to deliver the missing 144 missiles.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: subbtin.725

All the same vile tactics on the verge of a foul

I apologize. What the edge, what a foul? This is an outright battle against the government army of the state, whose president for some reason does not suit a number of Western rulers, caving in front of the ruler of one of the countries of North America. And here it is here that I support the delivery to Syria of Buk and even S-300 systems. Syrians have every right to shoot down planes that flew into Syria, without special permission of the government.

[tomket]

Quote: subbtin.725

All the same vile tactics on the verge of a foul.

And to shoot down a pair of "Tornado" by the almighty s-400 and you will immediately see what a peaceful coalition.

[Olfred]

I agree with you ... only this is no longer on the verge of a foul, but the pattern has gone. sorry for their bases do not fall

[Sandov]

Quote: subbtin.725

All the same vile tactics on the verge of a foul.

Well, how will they bomb their project? Daish son of a bitch, but he is his son of a bitch. They did not invent anything new.

[Patriot 1]

Well, this is already impudent and open support for ISIS ... With the cargo of weapons, they generally constantly "missed" ... Erdogan worked on our aviation, the other MEMBERS of the "anti-ISIS coalition" are working on the Syrian Army.

[atalef]

Quote: Volka

it's time to punish the "blind" for such things ...

And why do you think this is accidental?
Hybrid warfare tactics - oops did not want to.
And what will you do?

Quote: The same LYOKHA

If such actions increase, our VKS will have to do something to protect government forces from such actions by the coalition.

What will you do?
Will you bring down planes?
And what ? They do not interfere with the Russian VKS, they seem to fly to one place, but will they get bombed on the way?
This means knocking everything down or declaring a no-fly zone.
Problem

[Tatar 174]

Quote: atalef

Will you bring down planes?

To give such an opportunity to the army of the SAR, they have all the rights to destroy the aggressor.

[Alexey-74]

under the guise of ATS, let our specialists shoot down the "Verboy", for example, and more powerful than the air defense system ....

[Same lech]

What will you do?

There is a way out ... but risky ... in the locations of the ASADA troops, officially (I emphasize officially) to place our specialists with a warning to the coalition leadership about the consequences of striking at them.

Naturally, our people will have to cover up with air defense systems .... this option is clean from the point of view of international law but risky for people's lives ... they can still hit in the back.

[Moore]

Well, or, as an option, "transfer" to the brotherly Syrian people several "Pantsyrs", "Tungusoks" ... somewhere the "Cube" was lying around (?) - and that too.
Warn at the UN level that the SAR Armed Forces will have to defend themselves against the "peacekeepers" in the event of a direct attack.

[andj61]

Quote: Moore

Well, or, as an option, "transfer" to the brotherly Syrian people several "Pantsyrs", "Tungusoks" ... somewhere the "Cube" was lying around (?) - and that too.

They already have all this. Courage is needed for application!

Syrian air defense equipped with Russian weapons. Over 900 air defense systems and more than 4000 anti-aircraft guns of 23-100 mm caliber are in service. 300 Syrian air defense systems fall on the S-75 Dvina and S-75M Volga, 200 Cube, 140 on the S-125 Neva and S-125M Pechora, 60 Osa, S-200 Angara "and S-200V" Vega "- 44 sets, as well as self-propelled air defense systems of medium range" Buk "- 18 sets.

[Moore]

They already have all this. Courage is needed for application!

They have relic antiquities. It was not by chance that I put the word "convey" in quotation marks.
"Transfer" as approximately Yushcher "transferred" Mishiko to the air defense system in 2008. There is no time to teach the Syrians.

[veksha50]

Quote: andj61

They already have all this. Courage is needed for application!

Hmm ... Then I don’t understand anything at all ... Bandits fly in the Syrian sky and urinate - whom they want ... With impunity ... Some kind of nonsense ...

Or staff - untouchables ??? So this myth must be dispelled ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: andj61

They already have all this. Courage is needed for application!

Syrian air defense equipped with Russian weapons. Over 900 air defense systems and more than 4000 anti-aircraft guns of 23-100 mm caliber are in service. 300 Syrian air defense systems fall on the S-75 Dvina and S-75M Volga, 200 Cube, 140 on the S-125 Neva and S-125M Pechora, 60 Osa, S-200 Angara "and S-200V" Vega "- 44 sets, as well as self-propelled air defense systems of medium range" Buk "- 18 sets.

Yes ... it really takes a lot of courage to apply all of this. For almost all of the above was developed in the 50-60s of the last century. And we have long been removed from service (except for "beech" and "wasp").
S-75s worked back in Vietnam.
“Cubes” and S-125s still remember the Yom Kippur war. It is noteworthy that on the basis of "cubes" the Syrians rivet shushi with 57-mm cannons.
S-200 according to the tabular performance characteristics, of course, inspires. But in fact, it is a stationary air defense system with liquid-propellant missiles. Nitric acid and "tonka" ... brrr. And stationarity means that even UAB and UR with GPS guidance can be operated according to its position - the target will not go anywhere.
Only "beeches" and, in part, "wasps" remain.

The main thing is that air defense is not just a set of air defense systems. Air defense is a system. Radio engineering parts, communications, control centers, etc. And after several years of civil war, this system is almost completely destroyed.
And individual divisions and even regiments operating autonomously do not pose a big threat. Unless, of course, it is normal to plan sorties (RTR, air defense, AS, EW, PRR) - and not to drive single heavy reconnaissance aircraft into the zone of the air defense system without cover.

[DobryAAH]

Courage will appear when they are already mistaken about us, or maybe again we will limit ourselves to words? Then the partners will become even more insolent. Understand that to use something against them, when they fly at us, the will is needed. Otherwise, they will peep again: "We have an agreement"

[sa-ag]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

There is a way out ... but risky ... in the locations of the ASADA troops, officially (I emphasize officially) to place our specialists with a warning to the coalition leadership about the consequences of striking at them.

Well, they will be bombed and say that anyone on earth from above cannot be seen, ISIS or specialists

[Countermeasure]

The way out is to have the funds of Reb covering the zones of deployment of troops, but this does not guarantee against free-falling bombs.

[Countermeasure]

The way out is to have the funds of Reb covering the zones of deployment of troops, but this does not guarantee against free-falling bombs.

[Things]

Quote: The same Lech

There is a way out ... but risky ... in the locations of the ASADA troops, officially (I emphasize officially) place our specialists with a warning to the leadership of the coalition about the consequences of striking them.
Naturally, our people will have to cover with air defense .... this option is clean from the point of view of international law but risky for the lives of people ... can still hit in the back.

A very good option and quite feasible, moreover, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation should announce such a decision not only through military, diplomatic and political channels, but also through all well-known media (RT, CNN, BBC, etc.), so that the world community was aware and that the Americans (NATO) would then not be able to excuse themselves due to "accidents", etc.
Americans must be complete idiots in order to strike at such objects (positions) because it will be a frankly deliberate attack (aggression) against Russia with all the consequences.

[andj61]

Quote: atalef

And what ? They do not interfere with the Russian VKS, they seem to fly to one place, but will they get bombed on the way?
This means knocking everything down or declaring a no-fly zone.
Problem

Greetings, Alexander! This is not a problem. As soon as air defense systems — even the old S-200s — as well as the Shells begin to work on planes, you don’t even need to shoot down them: no one wants to fly. And about the S-200 - no matter what they say, but in terms of its functionality it is not much inferior to the S-300. The disadvantages are stationarity, liquid rockets, a slightly outdated guidance system. But after all, he does not need to work for several dozen goals, one at a time is enough. I don’t think that the pilot will feel comfortable knowing that at any moment he may not fly weakly.
In fact, given the number of aircraft in the so-called. "coalition" and the number of even outdated air defense systems in Syria, if the Syrian leadership so desires, manning combat crews with trained personnel, and also competent use - after striking the Syrian troops within tens of seconds, a response could well follow, also "accidentally" bringing down all the coalition planes in the air. Only there, even radars on airplanes, apparently, do not work out, and in general, apparently, they threw air defense systems as unnecessary.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: andj61

As soon as air defense systems — even the old S-200s — as well as the Shells begin to work on planes, you don’t even need to shoot down them: no one wants to fly.

Does Syria have live S-200s?
The Air Force on their paper also looked menacing ... but in reality only a couple of dozen cars fly.

[andj61]

Quote: Alexey RA

Does Syria have live S-200s?

Yes, from the living there is only a target illumination radar needed, and for the S-75, S-125 - missile guidance station. And the rest is efficient and not necessary - in order to scare, of course.
But seriously, the S-200 is a pretty reliable thing, I would even say it is indestructible, the elemental base is almost at the level of transistors, and even with double guaranteed redundancy. This is both an advantage and a disadvantage. The disadvantages are the large size, stationary, liquid rockets that require special conditions for refueling near positions, as well as the need for highly professional combat crews. Of course, in Syria there may not be just the last component - the military operations of the 70s-80s show that Arab settlements cannot work effectively in a combat situation.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: andj61

Yes, there is only a living target radar needed from the living

Figures. Without the same missile refueling complex, it will be clear from the very first shots that the division is sky-saving.

[Countermeasure]

Of course no one wants to fly. They will simply uncover everything from the beginning of the Kyrgyz Republic, and only after that they will start flying again.

[andj61]

Quote: Countermeasure

Of course no one wants to fly. They will simply uncover everything from the beginning of the Kyrgyz Republic, and only after that they will start flying again.

So, the old Soviet S-75s that Syria possesses (if they are workable), especially the S-25 and S-200 are just designed to combat cruise missiles. Moreover, even if Syria has 50% of suitable air defense systems (which is also doubtful), they themselves can provide a no-fly zone - however, if modern electronic warfare systems are used, these old air defense systems will go blind. But there are also more modern Buki, and it seems like Armor ...

[andj61]

Quote: andj61

old Soviet S-75s, all the more so - C-25 and S-200

Sorry - a clear slip - of course, S-125.

[BARKHAN]

And what does the desire of the Syrian leadership have to do with it? All wishes and decisions are made in the Kremlin.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: atalef

It means to blame everything or declare no-fly zone.

And why not? We are there at the invitation of the legitimately elected president, whom America herself congratulated on her election. And what are their rights? On the bird? Well, let them not like birds, where they shoot ...

[veksha50]

Quote: atalef

What will you do?
Will you bring down planes?

Why not ??? Only in this case, not by the forces of the Russian air forces, but by the forces of the Syrian air defense ...

"And why do you think this is accidental?"...

But hardly anyone is thinking about it ... Everything is sewn with white thread, and the blow was focused ...

So I ask the question: what would the United States say in response, after their plane, sowing death from heaven, was shot down by the air defense forces of the country, whose army is destroyed by the same state aircraft ???

And there is no need to say that an escalation of such mistakes would follow, turning them into open hostilities ... Far more so - the war is already going on, people and infrastructure are dying ...

[Dali]

Quote: atalef

Hybrid warfare tactics - oops did not want to.

This is when once ... and now it is already the second "case" ...

It is time to warn that the 3rd case is no longer a case and there will be consequences ...

[BARKHAN]

First, a no-fly zone, and then blame. And not under his breath to hate about this zone, but at the UN site, for the whole world. We warned the pier, more than once ...
They beat someone who allows themselves to be beaten. Well, if you chew the snot, it will simply progress. Each time, everything is more impudent and in different spheres. We’ve worn out with the Turks, so we’re afraid ... so they check our reaction.

[Jan Krumins]

The main terrorist America!

[Dembel77]

USA - Russia is not a partner, and certainly not an ally. And there is nothing to say about the ATS - the Americans of the Syrians do not seem to think of people either. This is just some kind of fascism! And with the Nazis you need to act like in the forty-fifth, and it seems that this is the case.

[Tarpon]

Quote: Jan Krumins

The main terrorist America!

I agree.
I am sure that the planes of their allies were bombed, so that they themselves could, in case of something, get out.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Jan Krumins

The main terrorist America!

Yes, worse than a drunk Carlson, there can only be a cross-eyed American pilot.

[st25310]

ZAK-57 - a modern anti-aircraft artillery system for military air defense.
http://gurkhan.blogspot.ru/2015/12/57.html#more

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Volka

and such things are time to punish the "blind" ...

And how?

[Watchdog]

Shoot down.
How is this done in war? Or are there still naive fifth-graders who believe that the United States and its accomplices are fighting ISIS in Syria? It is clear to everyone that the United States is at war with Syria and its President Assad. That is, wait a minute, the United States and a number of European "democracies" are waging an open war against this small state. Enemy aircraft must be shot down. In the event of revenge for this, Moscow should openly ban US and NATO aircraft from flying in the region. Are there other ways out?

[sherp2015]

Quote: Volka

it's time to punish the "blind" for such things ...

This is complete mess!
It's time for the Syrian army to use from 300 and s-400 to "miss"

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Do you personally put the Syrian army C-400? Then forward, yesterday it was necessary.

[sherp2015]

Quote: Banshee

Do you personally put the Syrian army C-400? Then forward, yesterday it was necessary.

Well, where can I compare with your "supplies" ...

[Coconut Tima]

US allies in the coalition are also blind.
Amnesty International has accused Saudi Arabia and its allies of attacking schools in Yemen.
According to the organization, after the coalition led by Saudi Arabia began to launch air strikes in Yemen in March, more than a thousand schools in the country were forced to stop working - about a quarter of them were completely destroyed.

[Vend]

Quote: Volka

it's time to punish the "blind" for such things ...

Yes, it's time to start shooting down on approaching positions. But first, the Syrians should make a statement, and Russia should support it. And then you can shoot down. Syria is a sovereign country.

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Volka

it's time to punish the "blind" for such things ...

Our actions are afraid to start the third world war. Although in fact, it's time to bring down one of the "impudent". NATO will not go to an open confrontation, all the more, according to all international rules, Syria has the right to defend its air borders. I'm waiting for the news in the morning that a NATO plane was shot down over Syria. If this does not happen, NATO will brazenly begin to destroy the advancing Syrian troops, then all the actions of the Aerospace Forces in support of the Syrian ground army will go down the drain.

PySy. If the boat is perforated and filled with water, you don’t need to scoop up water, but you need to close a hole, you don’t have to scoop up.

[Uran]

very well understand who is being bombed. they pretend that they didn’t bomb. remove the power of asad. this is their strategy.

[Volzhanin]

I am sincerely surprised - why the Syrians do not shoot down mattress airplanes?
And we must firmly and uncompromisingly cover them.
Some kind of absurdity!

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Volka

it's time to punish the "blind" for such things ...

On concepts - YES !!!

According to the situation, it is not clear whether ours agreed on a demarcation line or if everything is on the initiative ...

[_my opinion]

Quote: Volka

Aircraft of the American coalition again "missed", inflicting another blow on the positions of the Armed Forces

especially in the light of their arrogance with the high accuracy of their weapons and the cries of the low accuracy of our weapons

[Romanenko]

Most likely they are just waiting for this, they haven’t received an answer for our knocked down, now they want to answer for their own .... @@ ki!

[Valiich]

It's a matter of time. A "chewing Negro" can choke their anti-smoking zhuvoy! I alone am surprised, for all his shortcomings and stupidity, he also smokes !!! And if this is so, then what does he smoke if he throws out such squiggles ?!

[Same lech]

If such actions increase, our VKS will have to do something to protect government forces from such actions by the coalition.
It turns out that all the achievements of the Aerospace Forces in Syria will be nullified by the treacherous blows of the so-called coalition ... and this incidentally is a predictable situation.

[Russian jacket]

I'm not surprised at anything. there was not even a recall of the ambassador from Ankara. And now everyone will spit on us with a sense of security. And these blows are proof of this. Sorry. I already wrote that if there is no clear reaction to the downed plane, then this will be the beginning of the end of Putin as a politician. What I don't like, but this is most likely the case.

[veksha50]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

If such stocks increase our videoconferencing something will have to be done to protect government forces from such actions by the coalition.

Our VKS arrived there with several other tasks ...

Another question is why these government troops are not defending themselves with any (!!!) air defense means ???

Well, okay, the first "mistake" is explained by suddenness and unexpectedness ... But right away it was necessary to envisage a variant in which these "mistakes" would be repeated, and if they did not receive a "response", these "mistakes" would pass into the everyday routine of the war. ..

[donavi49]

And what are DeZ air defense systems ??? This is an enclave of government troops surrounded by broads, which rests solely on a competent commander, a fairly large number of troops that flocked from lost points and bases precisely to DeZ.

There only helicopters with a fight break through. If you land at Ilom base, then there take-off and taxiing are shot through by the ATGM and tanks. Turntables still manage to hide, but Il does not hide.

[oof]

Is our C-400 missing? It’s time already, to try it in practice.

[Alexei]

Quote: olf

Is our C-400 missing? It’s time already, to try it in practice.

Wrong wording. "Accidentally knock down." "We didn't know it was an American plane."

[Belarus]

Agree that nobody will shoot down pseudo-coalition planes. You judge for yourself what will happen later. The Americans simply troll Russia and test its nerves for strength. It was not possible to drag Russia into the war with NATO with the Su-24, so they decided to get on their nerves and provoke RF and thereby in passing compromise Assad completely if it hits a plane of a terrorist coalition led by the usa.
I am not a politician or a military man, but I agree that this disgrace must be stopped.

[amirbek]

Quote: Belarus

Agree that nobody will shoot down pseudo-coalition planes ..

I don’t agree ... the provocateurs will knock down ... let's say a couple at once ... they will make snickers out of shit .. and launch it through all their sewer channels

[Watchdog]

Quote: Belarus

You judge what will happen next.

And then what will happen? Nuclear strike on the Russian Federation? 285th sanctions package?
Defense wars are not won.

[Countermeasure]

Stop it, but how? it will be complicated.

[veksha50]

Quote: olf

And our S-400is missing something? It’s time already, to try it in practice.

Our S-400 is designed to protect our VKS contingent ... This is - from a legal point of view ...

And to shoot down the planes attacking the Syrian troops were not ours VKS and S-400, and the Syrians by all means at their disposal ...

Another question is why they did not do this ???
If there is not enough air defense equipment - this is just our it is necessary to deliver it to the Syrians, to train calculations ...

[PSih2097]

Quote: veksha50

train calculations ...

for this (the same calculation commander) you need to study at least two years on an accelerated program at the Higher School of Economics ...
privates at least half a year and that is not a fact.

[veksha50]

Quote: PSih2097

for this (the same calculation commander) you need to study at least two years on an accelerated program at the Higher School of Economics ...
privates at least half a year and that is not a fact.

And this just confirms the fact that after the collapse of the Union of the same Syrians (and citizens of other states), no one taught for a long time in our academies and schools ...

What can we say about the Syrians, when they didn’t recruit our graduates and didn’t graduate from other schools ...

And now the swiftness turns out ... To put air defense systems - so they are - scrap metal without trained calculations ...
Connecting our calculations is already a direct war, and just as you can’t manage in Korea and Vietnam, you won’t get away from a direct conflict with NATO ...

All in all, one headache ...

PS Damn, Ukrainian Buki with their native crews (Stryi regiment, Lviv region) our planes beat in the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX - and still haven't answered for it ...

It may be true to supply with our calculations, but somehow to formalize everything with an official agreement with Assad ??? After all, in fact, the hoppers in the sky of Syria host ...

[rotmistr60]

once again strange "missed"

The Americans purposefully test Russia for strength. Already act brazenly, openly and without fear. Honestly, I don’t even know how to respond to them in such a situation. All sorts of statements and concerns about him like a pea wall.

[Patriot 1]

You need to answer so that they are mired in internal problems. Raise Texas, remind Mexico of the lost territories. African Americans and Indians suggest that they owe money for the humiliation and extermination of their ancestors ... etc.

[rotmistr60]

remind Mexico of the lost territories. African Americans and Indians suggest that they owe money

Both Mexicans and Indians remember this very well. If it were so easy to "stir up", then I think that they would have had a hand in this long ago.

[Corsair]

Quote: Patriot 1

You need to answer so that they are mired in internal problems. Raise Texas, remind Mexico of the lost territories. African Americans and Indians suggest that they owe money for the humiliation and extermination of their ancestors ... etc.

In this case, the US government has already prepared and purchased army weapons for the police (including armored personnel carriers, etc.) and hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins, the rangers will probably be in favor of the government, not Texas, if something happens. The CIA and the FBI are listening and looking at everything that is possible and impossible.
In general, the United States is a tough totalitarian state with pseudo-democracy, where a policeman can easily shoot you on the street for an oblique look in his direction, and for searching for a pressure cooker and organic fertilizers on the Internet can easily rattle in prison.

[Corsair]

Quote: Patriot 1

You need to answer so that they are mired in internal problems. Raise Texas, remind Mexico of the lost territories. African Americans and Indians suggest that they owe money for the humiliation and extermination of their ancestors ... etc.

In this case, the US government has already prepared and purchased army weapons for the police (including armored personnel carriers, etc.) and hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins, the rangers will probably be in favor of the government, not Texas, if something happens. The CIA and the FBI are listening and looking at everything that is possible and impossible.
In general, the United States is a tough totalitarian state with pseudo-democracy, where a policeman can easily shoot you on the street for an oblique look in his direction, and for searching for a pressure cooker and organic fertilizers on the Internet can easily rattle in prison.

[udincev]

Quote: rotmistr60

All sorts of statements and concerns about him like a pea wall.

Statements and concerns are well expressed by the air defense system. Effectively, not like peas against a wall.

[Mihalich17]

So the air defense must also "miss"! )))
And it's very, very straightforward to "apologize"! )))
Like: "Oh, is it you, what-were it? Yeah nuuu ...".
"Well, sorry!"

[Alexei]

The main thing is to apologize immediately, and to assure that this will not happen again.

[Sober]

Quote: Alexej

The main thing is to apologize right away

better to apologize five minutes before chance.

[veksha50]

Quote: Mihalich17

So the air defense must also "miss"! )))

This morning, in an anger of the day, an article was posted about the possibilities our Air Defense our the base of the videoconferencing group in Syria ...

As for the capabilities of the S-400, and problems with Moscow-Varyag ... The article is sober, balanced, only the mood does not increase ... However, the truth is always unpleasant ...
It's called: "Squadron at dead anchors" ...

Article source: Source: http://tehnowar.ru/31218-eskadra-na-mertvyh-yakoryah.html

Brief essence: Moscow is already so worn out that back in December last year it was supposed to undergo overhaul and modernization for 4 (!!!) years ... However, circumstances "do not let it go" ...

The Varangian leaves the Pacific region with his departure ...

And the possibilities of their Forts are not omnipotent and not dimensionless ...

The S-400 division to repel (suddenly) a massive raid and missile strike to protect the base is also not enough ...

In general, the air defense problem needs to be solved not only in Syria, but also in our ...

And we got stuck there for a long time ...

Although I don’t like those hapless screams about: “Maybe we’re banging!?!?”, But sometimes the thought creeps in that it is easier and easier for the main pest to bang and bang ...

[Belarus]

Zhirinovsky correctly said that the Americans and their allies do not need peace in Syria and do not need a quick victory of some over others. What we are now witnessing is the implementation of the plan that Zhirinovsky spoke about. They will win the ATS, they will bomb it, they will defeat the Daesh, they will bomb his.
The Syrian leadership itself will not do anything here. Unless it may turn to the Russian Aerospace Forces for help in resolving this issue. And then it will be seen what will happen.

[atalef]

Quote: Belarus

The Syrian leadership itself will not do anything here. Unless it may turn to the Russian Aerospace Forces for help in resolving this issue. And then it will be seen what will happen.

Yes, they have long since appealed and will gladly accept the input of forces --- well, let's say the CSTO - with Belarus and Kazakhstan.

[Belarus]

You also found me soyuznikov. One is "better" than another. The Russian Federation has only two loyal allies and tochka. This statement has been verified by time and facts.

[atalef]

Quote: Belarus

You also found me soyuznikov. One is "better" than another. The Russian Federation has only two loyal allies and tochka. This statement has been verified by time and facts.

Ie VKS and EW from the allies you removed?

[kil 31]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Belarus

The Syrian leadership itself will not do anything here. Unless it may turn to the Russian Aerospace Forces for help in resolving this issue. And then it will be seen what will happen.

Yes, they have long since appealed and will gladly accept the input of forces --- well, let's say the CSTO - with Belarus and Kazakhstan.

Let Assad ask you. You will not go down far from the gollan, at the same time you will control the Hezbollah so that after the war they would not bring weapons home. 100% will not be bombed.

[atalef]

Quote: keel 31

Let Assad ask you

Something tells me that he won’t ask

Quote: keel 31

You are not far from go down,

Yes, not so long ago I sent pictures to everyone

Quote: keel 31

at the same time, make sure that you don’t bring weapons home after the war

They will bring it. although we bomb from almost every other day.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: atalef

Yes, they have long since appealed and will gladly accept the input of forces --- well, let's say the CSTO - with Belarus and Kazakhstan.

It’s better to turn to Israel. Yours and the theater know better, and the preparation is better.

[DIMA45R]

Probe, if they are allowed to "accidentally miss" then they will increase the "misses", and then they will stop calling it misses ...

[Alexander 3]

Mattresses are more harmful in the fight against the igil than they are at war with them. The entry of Turkish troops into Iraq says the same thing.

[Mikhail m]

The desire to start a war with Russia on foreign territory is clearly visible.

[ARES623]

They need to supply them with a Buk for tactical air defense, you see, the Yankees will stop making mistakes. And it is better to catch them from there. Such "allies" are of no use but harm.

[DIMA45R]

We can’t catch up yet. they were the first to start fighting terrorism. I wonder how many times under their laws it is allowed to miss, to justifiably call such an attack on the army of a sovereign state?

[perm23]

Let Syria fight in the UN. No one has the right, without her permission, to act on its territory.

[ramzes1776]

The Syrian army has normal air defense. They can pinch amers even without our help. But what will be the consequences for them then? Therefore, the command to open fire and no.

[Watchdog]

What kind? They will be destroyed anyway! America will not back down. There will be no other solution. Or the US will experience this shock, which will make taxpayers think about whether their money is going or Syria will fall. There is no alternative. There will be no replay in this field!

[sergant1.1]

They want to provoke ours to open a no-fly zone. Or some other sharp actions. In general, they will crack us like a pear.

[Aleksander]

And how many comments were there that with the installation of With 400 everyone should now ask permission from Russia to fly in the sky of Syria! So they asked. It will be even more interesting if the planes belonged to Turkey.
The situation is very poor, and you can’t answer and don’t answer ....

[perm23]

So they asked us. And we ourselves are also good. We called all partners for a joint fight against evil. That evil has come. Why the heck we generally called them, let's fight together. Full idiocy we inform the Americans where we are flying, when we fly, they were invited to fight together and what they got was Su-24 and ATS soldiers killed by mistake. Excuse me, such assistants are needed.

[0255]

Quote: perm23

So they asked us. And we ourselves are also good. We called all partners for a joint fight against evil. That evil has come. Why the heck we generally called them, let's fight together. Full idiocy we inform the Americans where we are flying, when we fly, they were invited to fight together and what they got was Su-24 and ATS soldiers killed by mistake. Excuse me, such assistants are needed.

The United States has been bombing Syria for more than a year under the pretext of ISIS, even earlier they shouted that the Russian Federation should help them. With the start of the operation, the Russian U.S. Air Force began to shout that the Russian Federation was bombing the wrong people, they sent the Turkish F-16 to Su-24 from Avax, bombed the Syrian army.

[Taygerus]

Well, aren’t they tsuki, everything is done on purpose, they are covering up their jackals, what kind of coalition to combat IS, when they directly support them, we also need to smear tries somewhere ...

[morpogr]

Urgently strengthen the Syrian army's air defense. And it is significant to punish the coalition's flying object so that the next time they do not miss and know who to bomb. And Russia can lease air defense assets for the duration of the operation against terrorists. You look and "partners" with vassals will become more accommodating.

[Stirbjorn]

Something tells me that the gallant Syrian squadrons will willingly give up the right to bring down an American plane to ours - why should they cling to such trouble ?!

[donavi49]

The problem is knock down. DeZ does not have its own serious air defense (S-125 positions were destroyed long ago by themselves so that the broads would not get it).

You can get there only by helicopters and with battle. You can seat the IL with a beech, but the risk is high that the IL will catch the ATGM or the projectile, because the field and parking are shot through.

A beech located in the territory controlled by the government with a message (to take it) does not reach the DeZ area. Shoot down on the approach and retreat does not dare. The radar field over DeXNUMX is also dense.

Options, only to watch the MiG-29 SAR, but without guidance from the ground they would rather be knocked down themselves and say it was. They are pulling the A-50 AWACS - so Russia will be blamed for everything.

Yes, and the very fact of the downing of the Americans is unpredictable, they certainly will not be limited to sanctions and a ban on tomatoes.

[Domino45]

I do not understand. Why the brigadier general cannot prohibit the "muzils" from flying over the Syrian Armed Forces. So distort them: go for a while, practice in your country.

[Svarog5570]

The Syrian government needs to declare the country a no-fly zone for a foreign contingent and ask Russia to support its decision, and ours can, like, transfer air defense systems to the Syrian army, which will be controlled by harsh "Syrians" of Slavic appearance. Maybe after a couple of mattresses are shaken in the air, Americans will scratch in the opera, because their brain is there. it's time to diminish them.

[dchegrinec]

It’s time for the Syrians to miss the planes!

[tomcat117]

The aircraft of the American coalition again "missed", inflicting another blow on the positions of the Syrian Armed Forces ...

... and it seems that the ATS uses on them "accidentally" means of portable or mobile air defense.
Reaction: the USA - it’s not we who bombed, the Syrians - but we didn’t shoot it down, that’s fine! Everyone is happy, everyone is laughing, especially the US.

[Junior, I]

It's time to blind the coalition, and it is better to destroy their on-board electronics.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Who's stopping you? Blind, destroy.

[sl22277]

It’s time for Russia to establish a no-fly zone over the whole of Syria. To close the fuck and all things ..., otherwise such cases will go on increasing.

[zekaze1980]

And not the last mistake, Syria and the Russian Federation can only protest and resent at the diplomatic level, since a direct conflict with NATO is excluded. You will have to endure vile stabs in the back until victory over the IS or at least the expulsion of terrorists from Syria.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: zekaze1980

Have to endure vile stabs in the back

We bomb those who are supported by the United States, and the United States bomb those whom we support. Moreover, the United States does not prevent us from bombing those, and we do not prevent from bombing these. This is such a strange warrior.

[nekot]

Indeed, it is not clear where the air defense of Syria is, especially if our VKS warned them? Are they afraid to give amer a reason to officially start bombing government forces? So they are already bombing and there will be more. There was also information with reference to Iraqi sources that the Arab "friends of Assad" (Saydits, Qatar, etc.) are agreeing to send 100 thousand contingents to Syria "to fight ISIS." If they agree, then a skiff, tactical nuclear weapons, we obviously will not use.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

The best wording of what is happening!

[Svetlana]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Here is such a strange warrior.

Yes, there are a lot of strange and incomprehensible things for us. It was not clear why we didn’t help Assad with our Armed Forces for so long, why just now, is it not too late? It was not clear why Russia, in fact being in confrontation with the West, announcing to the whole world that ISIS (or whatever it should be called now) is the brainchild of the United States, but at the same time constantly negotiating with them on a joint fight against terrorism, this is illogical. Our forces alone are not enough to fight terrorism, this is understandable. But they showed us on TV how we successfully and effectively, unlike the United States, destroy it in Syria. So why then it was necessary to take as allies those who "spawned" terrorism? It's incomprehensible. We do not know a lot of things, or, more precisely, practically nothing at all, but what we see from the news is extremely contradictory to one another.

[paxil]

Yola Pala have the same Tunguska and shells from the SAR why they do not cover their advancing troops or they, too, like ours until the thunder strikes I won’t be surprised if they are Saudi or Qatari, then the Yankees will again declare that they did not act within the framework of the coalition. In a generally strange coalition, they do everything they want, the right hand does not know what everyone’s left does their own interests.

[pvv113]

the aviation of the so-called American anti-terrorist coalition once again strangely “missed” and dealt a blow to the Syrian military.

You need to learn freaks, or better yet, to teach a lesson to discourage all desire

[Sergey Vladimirovich]

So we have decided who is fighting for what. First, the statement about the lack of ammunition for striking the "terrorists", now two blatant "misses". Got some ammo? But it is a pity to shoot your brainchild while it has not yet fulfilled its purpose. You can also "help" him on the sly, pretending to be fools ...

[renics]

And in this case it is necessary to bring down, not only Russian can be brought down, then it will not be common.

[magician]

misses become a regularity. it’s clear who, with whom and for what is fighting. It is necessary to transfer the theater of war to the territory of the USSR, the address has long been known.

[renics]

This is the right idea, the whole world community needs to create and bring about the same terrorist situation. What the United States creates around the world, on the territory of the United States themselves. So that they realize their perniciousness of their political line for themselves. Thus creating protest moods in the USA, which could change the power structures both in the White House and in the Congress and Senate.

[Radogost]

Quote: Mihalich17

So the air defense must also "miss"! )))
And it's very, very straightforward to "apologize"! )))
Like: "Oh, is it you, what-were it? Yeah nuuu ...".
"Well, sorry!"

Then the NOISE WILL BE OH-OH-OH.
They are people, we are all subhuman

[Al_oriso]

-Where do you hit, one-eyed?
-I'm not one-eyed
- Well ... now one-eyed?

[Migor102]

and who said that they are blind .........

[LÄRZ]

Assad would need to officially declare a no-fly zone over the whole of Syria through the UN, and take from us at least BUKs or S-300/400. After all, this "coalition" flies there completely illegally, unlike us. And then knock everyone and everything on a legal basis (except for the RF Aerospace Forces) Tougher with amers, BUT! Legally.

[kolyhalovs]

Quote: LERTZ

Assad would need to officially declare a no-fly zone over the whole of Syria through the UN.

This is a joke, right? With such a powerful US influence in the UN.
And besides, you tell me, since when does a sovereign country have to apply to the UN to close its airspace? They can shoot them down now. But then what? The Americans do not bomb Assad's forces. They are "wrong". And so they flew ISIS to bomb, honestly, honestly.

[Countermeasure]

You cannot push such a resolution through the UN, the "friends" will veto.

[Countermeasure]

You cannot push such a resolution through the UN, the "friends" will veto.

[cergey51046]

There is no need to drag, declare and shoot down violators.

[Tjeck]

Of course, you can continue to politely blame the Americans, but it seems to me that we should have missed once and again .. History says that Americans understand the language of power best of all. So it’s necessary to introduce a no-fly zone, for which purpose did the S-400 itself be transferred?

[perm23]

I’m also interested, but that our air defense is there just for beauty.

[KBR109]

Afraid - don't do it. Do it - do not be afraid. Something like that.

[demo]

The height of cynicism, arrogance, neglect of all the norms of morality, conscience and all that should be present in normal people.
This is not the country of a victorious democracy that can act this way, but a street scumbag that bends to the last and waits when they give a nod to the answer.

And the saddest thing is that such sub-tactics will be applied by them constantly.
To my tears, I feel sorry for both my country and my people for having to live in an environment surrounded by bastards.

[BOB044]

Mattresses are mattresses. They only meanness and live. But the day will come and they will have to regret what was done.

[PatriotKZ]

It’s not Mozilla who specifically bombed the positions of the ATS army, they do not want the Russian Federation together with the ATS to defeat the IG. It's time to put this coalition together with the United States. One thing I don’t understand is why the UN international community is silent, etc.

[cergey51046]

Shoot down uninvited invaders.

[gg.na]

Quote: cergey51046

Shoot down uninvited invaders.

Well, by chance, too, miss the s-400 too then stupidly apologize !!!

[Teplohod]

Nothing surprising and quite expected, judging by the news that the media are telling us. Our media leadership is not looking?

[Valenok]

our guide is not a reader - it is a writer ..)

[shimus]

In response to US blunders, the Syrian armed forces have the right to "mistakenly" shoot down their bomber, mistaking it for an ISIS bomber!

[Glock]

I would like this

[Alexandr2637]

You must first apologize, and then accidentally bring down their plane ....

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Quote: Alexej

Quote: olf

Is our C-400 missing? It’s time already, to try it in practice.

Wrong wording. "Accidentally knock down." "We didn't know it was an American plane."

We heard something like that from the Turks - "we didn't know it was a Russian plane."

[perm23]

Syria at the UN should demand that all the forces of foreign countries that it did not invite must leave the country before receiving an official invitation. Otherwise, Syria will bring down everything in its space. Only here if Assad and we will not sleep.
And ours also needs to be made clear to the United States that there is no need to fly there. Well, these are all words, but we must act. So far, in my opinion, only this way.

[Prince Bulls]

How long will this disgrace continue?!?!

[gg.na]

What do they think (if they can think at all) what kind of things will they not be responsible for ?! God, he is not a fraer, he will put everyone on the rank and hand over what is supposed to be, no one will get out. And then he’ll catch up and add!

[There are a lot of us]

After the first time it was necessary to make a warning and shoot down

[Zomanus]

That would be where to test our "Verba".
Make an ambush and throttle star-striped.
And at the place of ambush, leave the shot stinger and the Igilov banner.
And repeat until it reaches them.

[V.ic]

Significantly bring down the attacking plane is. Firstly, there was a precedent a couple (?) Years ago with the shooting of a Turkish plane by the Syrians, the Turks and the Yankees were wiped out. No one can forbid the person who is being killed to adequately respond to the killers (necessary self-defense).

[Things]

Quote: V.ic

Significantly bring down the attacking plane is. Firstly, there was a precedent a couple (?) Years ago with the Turkish aircraft being shot down by the Syrians, the Turks and the Yankees were wiped out.

The current conditions are really worth it.
In fact, Syria does not lose anything - it is already being destroyed with impunity by the hands of ISIS, then through the Turks, then directly by the US aviation.
By the way, why can’t you turn to the UN to provide observers (inspectors) to every Syrian army unit — for monitoring and analysis ?!
Let them personally admire how the Syrians are "accidentally" bombed and how the ISIS is not "accidentally" bombed!

[Bubyr]

I think it's time to put Assad S-300. We will solve many problems at once.

[Djubal]

Quote: Bubyr

We will solve many problems at once.

is not a fact. American anti-Assad-faced women will enthusiastically accept the downing of their plane, inflate the hysteria in the media and allow themselves to bomb Syria into dust. And who is there peaceful who is not peaceful will not sort out the habit. Such an octopus is uselessly slamming tentacles, you need to hit your head, but this is never easy. It would be great to transfer at least one of the wars that phasington fanned to FSA ...

[Nirvanko]

No, you need to have steel eggs yourself. You won’t hide behind others for a long time: be it Donbass or Syria. Time to make decisions.

[perm23]

Whoever wants to find a reason for war will always find it. Just like in 41 we avoided everything and did not respond to provocations, we waited. So it is here. In my opinion, until you hit the impudent guy in the forehead, he will not understand. The more you allow him, the bolder and stronger he becomes.

[Ruswolf]

1st time - an accident; 2nd time - coincidence; 3rd time - a pattern!
I think that Assad needs to formally request the coalition regarding these strikes.
If the coalition responds that it was not they who struck.... Then it will be possible to wait for the third raid by "Unknown aircraft" with a retaliatory strike.
If the coalition apologizes that the strike was accidental.... Then there will be grounds to ban their strikes in this region, as a measure to prevent these incidents due to the coalition’s poor awareness of the situation in this region and the lack of data on the location of troops.
Well, ours need to be celebrated there more often.
IMHO

[fairmen]

As if I don’t see anything strange, the coalition was created to protect ISIS

[nrex]

The failures of the anti-ISIS coalition in the SAR are links in the same chain as the shooting of a Turkish F-16 at a Su-24.
Everyone lies. In this way, they are trying to equalize the forces and capabilities of opponents and make the work of our aviation useless. And also to influence the Russian side with such a madhouse, thereby provoking a tough response. Such things must be nipped in the bud, otherwise they will become part of the system.

[asar]

The second time, it’s no longer a “miss”!
This is already a system!
Then they will decide who is who and who is for whom, I think it’s pointless!
This is no longer a “heroic” raid on a hospital, excavators...!
This is a targeted attack on the army of the Syrian Republic

Eh! It looks like, Forum members, everything is just beginning!

[worldofpain]

All these mistakes by American aviation were initially predicted. The intelligence used by the United States comes mainly from Turkey, because... The Americans have weak intelligence in the Middle East and rely on allied intelligence as a basis. Another point is that it is unclear why Russia needed to participate in the anti-terrorist coalition in Syria; we were already doing a good job on our own. Initially, it was clear that the coalition would put a spoke in the wheels in the fight against ISIS. I think the future plans of the United States will be to gradually squeeze Russia out of the territories of interest to the United States in Syria by coalition forces and take them under control. This plan will negate all the efforts of the Russian Armed Forces. In my opinion, Russia should have limited the actions of the coalition only to the territory of Iraq and the position should have been tough.

[Valenok]

Quote: worldofpain

I think the future plans of the United States will be to gradually squeeze Russia out of the territories of interest to the United States in Syria by coalition forces and take them under control. This plan will negate all the efforts of the Russian Armed Forces.

Well... It's obvious. Extrusion. A coalition ground operation that only needs to be provoked. Congress seems to already have permission.

How about a tough position towards partners? Hit Washington? This is precisely what is unprecedented.

[Yarik]

What about the S-400? They talked a lot about this on this resource, but somehow... not quite right.

[nik1321]

I think the way out is that we need to raise the issue of the presence of various kinds of coalitions on the territory of Syria without an invitation. In essence, this is aggression and nothing else. There is the UN and other methods of influence.. Let them limit themselves to Iraq and restore order there. And what do ISIS have support for the so-called fighters against it is not surprising, and further events can take an increasingly serious turn - if they are not stopped in time. But we still need to start not with military measures.

[bashkort]

I think it is necessary to push through the position that the appearance of US coalition aviation in the zone of direct contact between Daesh and the Syrian army is undesirable - Russian aviation operates there, terrorists already control a significant territory, in Iraq, for example. Let them frolic there. If their aircraft appears outside the specified zone - “sorry, you were not invited here, we warned you.” Something like this. It is clear that the United States will not sign up for this, but there is no other way out yet; they will continue to bomb the Syrians.

[Maks-80]

It's time for the Syrians to hand over the Buk and Tor air defense systems. And let them conduct their operations under the cover of air defense. (At least in this area).

[ivan bogomolov]

My opinion is that they definitely hit the target, there should be no talk of a miss, you need to call a spade a spade...

[Million]

It was no accident that we missed.

[udincev]

It is also believed that Daesh does not have aviation...

[oracul]

Alas! What is happening is the flip side of our tolerance and desire to comply with international norms and rules, dating back to the times of the Tsarist Empire. The principle applies: everyone thinks to the extent of his depravity. These scum do what they see fit. Their main thing is to rock Russia, drag it deeper into the war in Syria, and then strike in the Donbass, from Afghanistan. Don’t forget about the economic attacks on us, where they are trying to starve us out. By the way, please note that this is also the tactics of ISIS: stretch the front, distract the main forces, striking in secondary directions, and then break through the defenses where they are not expected. It is clear that they are not able to resolve such issues on a global scale, which means that NATO, led by the United States, is doing its part. Please note that the French aircraft carrier “suddenly” disappeared into the Persian Gulf, because the main theater of military operations is in Syria. This means they were afraid to get a response from us, being nearby. Allies in wolf's clothing. They are waiting in ambush. Here the Kurdish double-dealers in Iraq are starting to throw sticks - they demand to change the flight routes of the Aerospace Forces. But we most likely haven’t found out everything yet, we don’t know everything about their plans, so we have to grind our teeth. Seven times measure cut once.

[sergej30003]

we must call a spade a spade, the USA is fighting on the side of ISIS, we need to think about the safety of the Syrian army from air strikes.

[Patient]

In light of recent events (the US Treasury has accused Assad of purchasing oil from Daesh), the “coalition” may begin to openly bomb Syrian troops, ostensibly to combat the financing of Daesh, while, of course, evidence has been presented that Assad is purchasing oil from terrorists. did not have.

[YaMZ-238]

They do this on purpose!!! We need to punish...

[Dave36]

Oh, strategists... Assad needs it, Assad needs it... Isn’t it clear to all of you... There is de facto no Assad... (at best, like Yanukovych). He was given a black mark. We, too, did not start bombing ISIS right away, first the moderates... otherwise we are white and fluffy. For the GDP, the downed Su24 is a revelation (we can and will be shot down). The Americans officially accused him of selling oil to ISIS (Assad VERDICT!!!!!!!!)))...
We will be squeezed out of Syria...and squeezed out in disgrace. It’s a matter of time...and the point is not that Russia is weak, but that a pack of HYENAS is chasing the LION and doing whatever they want with him.
But will our GDP be able to exchange a brigade or two of our military to protect Assad? It’s not like bombing the Barmalei with 6000 thousand.... I very much doubt it...
The noose on the lion's neck tightens...
P.S. We don’t have Lebed....but we have Kodyrov, who shouts into the microphone..The judge is fag..s....And Shoigu....pidzhmak..so think about it...stupid Strelkov-Girkin or not.. .

[Oprichnik]

With rare exceptions, you don’t have to read the first page of comments. There are a lot of site bastards and youngsters who haven’t been fired upon. They only give each other positives, noise and hubbub. Worthless literacy. Go serve your Motherland, and then open your mouth, half of them held nothing in their hands except a fountain pen. Damn strategists...

[samara-58]

Well, come on, sergeant major!!! There are all “marshals” and “army generals” there!!! And also “moderators” are absolutely brutal!!!

[Foxbed]

S: It is hardly possible to call the strikes of NATO aircraft on the positions of the Syrian Armed Forces an accident or a coincidence. All this resembles a planned action for the implementation by the United States and its allies of tasks that are least related to the real fight against international terrorism.

The so-called “coalition” has neither a UN mandate nor approval from the SAR government. After the first incident, Syria should have filed a complaint with the UN Security Council. After repeated incidents, it has every moral right to shoot down the cats of bitches!
PS: I’m generally in awe of these Honduras According to them, it was we (our aviation) that struck the positions of the Syrian troops. And the Assad government actually buys oil from ISIS!! It seems in their concept: the more monstrous the lie, the more “truthful” it is?

Quote: Bubyr

I think it's time to put Assad S-300. We will solve many problems at once.

There are modernized "Thor 2" "They don't respond" because such a squeal will start all over the world!Assad shoots down the planes of the coalition fighting ISIS!!! He is worse than ISIS!!!! Kill Assad!" This will be a “different” war!

[Dave36]

The war is already in full swing...it’s just that the Americans have not yet decided who will defeat us again...but they will decide very soon. Another serious air strike on Assad’s troops and they will scatter and that’s it...

[Waiting on the beach]

Yes, first the terrorists got fighter aircraft, and now attack aircraft are catching up.

[NeRTT]

Why immediately S-300?? Just give the MANPADS container to the Syrians - they themselves will use it with 100% success!!!

[0255]

Quote: NeRTT

Why immediately S-300?? Just give the MANPADS container to the Syrians - they themselves will use it with 100% success!!!

Is it okay that the American Air Force can bomb the Syrian army without entering the kill zone of MANPADS? MANPADS will not replace the S-300 or S-400.

[Velizariy]

Squeezing out of Syria is not the primary goal, in the first place they are leading to a war between Russia and Turkey, it won’t even be possible to squeeze out, this is not a tube of paste. Turkey has already been exchanged, war is a matter of the near future. Yes! And Turkey is not intended to defeat our country, it has the role of cannon fodder, its fate has already been decided.
About 1,5 years ago I wrote in comments about events in Ukraine... That she is not the main participant, but that everything will begin with Turkey! They downvoted... they said that Türkiye is almost a brother.
And now it’s like...

[hohkn]

Quote: Alexey-74

the route was not agreed upon, did not respond, and other nonsense....then apologize for the downed plane

Or you don’t have to apologize, but “express regret.” They say they mistakenly mistook it for ISIS... The nonsense will be akin to Amer’s and Turkish.

Quote: PatriotKZ

One thing I don’t understand is why the UN international community is silent, etc.

They don't bark at their owners. They only open their mouths at Russia.

[Gormenghast]

Why be surprised? State terrorists support local terrorists.

[Victor1]

The Syrian army seems to have been supplied with the S300; they lack the resolve to first spot the enemy plane on approach, and if it doesn’t turn, shoot it down?
It is necessary to announce that all planes not belonging to Syria and Russia will be shot down, because... violate the borders of a sovereign state in which hostilities are ongoing and which is under martial law.
There is a mess going on in Syrian airspace, the Americans will continue to destroy all the infrastructure and troops of Syria, pretending to be fools.

[Rosty]

They are running into the use of air defense. Plus, Assad’s troops will now react to any aircraft, including ours, which is not gut.
In general, it’s a good idea to remember Vietnam, Angola, Avgan, etc. Both our and American experience in guerrilla warfare - aviation crosses supply channels, but this is only effective in combination with special forces, small mobile groups of “hunters”, with air support. Remember how they took villages with perfume? Aviation + hail + self-propelled guns, then clearing out what was left.

Everything is strange in Syria

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: rotmistr60

All sorts of statements and concerns about him like a pea wall.

I agree.

[1536]

US state terrorism is already crossing all conceivable and unimaginable boundaries! A gang of bandits entrenched in Washington ultimately brings the World to the brink of global war due to their selfish parochial interests. Beggars in power are terrible. Poor Americans in power are dangerous!

[Stepan stepanovich]

Quote: subbtin.725

All the same vile tactics on the verge of a foul.

- So, this is no longer a proper fight!

If the Kremlin came up with some kind of game (fight) using its own invented rules, then this is their problem and ours too!
Are they nasty, are their favorite partners being imposed on the Kremlin?
Or, on the contrary, is our government asleep and in a dream sees the “civilized” side in battle with friends?
And this circus is watched by everyone!

[vrotaru1960]

Etu pora nazivati ​​- ne protiv IGIL a za IGIL...

[Stepan stepanovich]

When the lights were turned off.
He 1536, the native daughter of German Oskarovich Gref, said:

Beggars in power are terrible. Poor Americans in power are dangerous!

Army General 1536, calls on our wonderful people in power, who are all rich, to chip in to feed the poor Yankees?

Have the main partners already eaten a dozen August lemonards?

Poor dangerous Yankees:
— And how much money does Russia owe us?
Ours, which are excellent and harmless:
- If you don’t milk it in a year, your hand will get tired!

At whose expense are we continuing the banquet, daughter!

[rotor]

American coalition planes "missed" again

For the United States and for the vast majority of its NATO partners, Bashar Assad is a full-fledged enemy, whose departure from the presidency is considered by the West to be the main condition for a political settlement of the situation in Syria. It is for this reason that the Western coalition is not too diligent in bombing the positions of the terrorist group ISIS.

With such a small composition of forces and means, the Western coalition also manages to “miss”.

It is clear that the West is not satisfied with the revival of Syria in the previous format and the West is playing its own game.

[Stalnov I.P.]

Question We are allies of Syria, so why are we chewing snot, covering Syrian troops with our aviation. After all, any take-off or flight of the Western coalition is monitored, so our planes must be in the air at this time, what is the S-400 doing there, strange position, let’s miss the same thing a couple of times at the bases where the Americans are working, look at the howl there will be, stop watching They are not our partners, they are ENEMIES and we must proceed from this.

[Stalnov I.P.]

Question We are allies of Syria, so why are we chewing snot, covering Syrian troops with our aviation. After all, any take-off or flight of the Western coalition is monitored, so our planes must be in the air at this time, what is the S-400 doing there, strange position, let’s miss the same thing a couple of times at the bases where the Americans are working, look at the howl there will be, stop watching They are not our partners, they are ENEMIES and we must proceed from this.

[starhina01]

SYRIA IS A SMALL COUNTRY, VERY MANY WISH TO BOMB ISIS, IN SUCH A SMALL AIR SPACE ACCIDENTAL AIRCRAFT COLLISIONS CAN NOT BE EXCLUDED. so food for thought

[kos2910]

Yes, the game is based on a foul. Their task is to escalate the situation so that we or the Syrians finally shoot down the plane, then Turkish troops can be brought in. The fuse is set on fire...

[Voltsky]

give the S-300 to the Syrians (with the Jews, they’ll somehow get along so that Hezbollah is controlled and the Syrians don’t break them) + give them shell so that there is no desire to work on the S-300

[GOGY]

Quote: uralex

To be honest, I am still surprised that not a single plane of the "coalition" has been shot down.

The Americans are just waiting for this to officially blame the Syrian army and helping Russia aiding terrorism ... Then NATO’s hands will be untied ...

Well, well.. Next? What will they do? Will they declare war, or what? They'll be completely screwed, so don't be afraid to raise the stakes and fight back - this filthy coalition will deflate and scatter to its own corners. There will be no war, they are just trying to break us and study our reaction. The Russians have given us some slack - we’ll try again, then again... We’re already tired of this co-opting! What are we waiting for? Another downed plane or an “accidental strike” on the Khmeimim airfield?

[Skym]

knock down freaks and that's it. Who are they? Were they called there? That the rules for some are written, while others are “exceptional and unique.” Nothing. Everyone will be rewarded!!!

[Pete mitchell]

I was in Britain just now and talked to the locals. “And we/the British/ are finally bombing ISIS,” they proudly declare. Have you read that the Russians are hammering away much more actively and effectively than the entire coalition? We didn't even hear.
RT forever!

[Vlad5307]

Well, they fly over Syria (they themselves were invited to bomb ISIS), fire rockets, which means not from a distance of 1-5 km, but rather several tens of km. They will say we shoot at ISIS, but the missiles hit the SAA - the accuracy of the missiles is apparently poor, or the coordinates were given to the pilots incorrectly, or the pilots are doing something wrong. That's all. There was no need to flirt with NATO in the Syrian Arab Republic, but immediately say that you don’t belong there. Then they would still think about whether to fly or not to fly? If you get into a fight, there’s no point in shouting that we didn’t call you for that, so you could beat us! You need to think about who you are friends with and who you invite to “guest”! The lesson from the Turks is not useful, so get a kick from their master too!

[cergey51046]

They didn’t miss a beat, they are fighting with Syria, supporting terrorists. All uninvited guests must be shot down. But ours consider enemies as partners. The United States organized an explosion on a passenger plane, persuaded Turkey to shoot down our military plane and are trying in every possible way to spoil us.

[Oleg Lavrov]

Here it is, the real Amer army!! !!

[Fight cat]

Now we need to close the sky to all other countries, or demand a flight card at least 2 hours in advance!!!
and you see, you're completely blind!

[Lily]

Maybe it's time to use the S-400, at least to show that we control them?! There will be no normal reaction, the bombing of the Syrian Armed Forces will only intensify. That's why they are there.

[Risiana]

This Russia has created a pilot zone over Syria. The USA bombs everyone, everything suits them.

[duchy]

Against the backdrop of such “mistakes,” Assad, in my opinion, needs to announce a ban on aviation flights over the country by foreign combat aircraft without appropriate approval from the authorized authorities of Syria and warn everyone that undeclared flying objects will be destroyed. It is clear that a couple of “deaf” ones will end up in the ground, but that is already the fault of those who ignored such a warning.