Erdogan said the Turkish military are not going to leave Iraq

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Turkish President Erdogan said that the Turkish military will not leave Iraq. Recall that in the northern part of Iraq (Ninewa province) the Iraqi authorities noted the presence of at least 1 thousand Turkish military, as well as 20 Turkish tanks. According to official Ankara, the contingent is necessary for "guarding the Peshmerga training camp (Kurdish militia)." A few days ago, official Baghdad issued an ultimatum to Turkey on the urgent need for the military to withdraw from Iraq and asked NATO to act on Ankara. To no avail ...

Erdogan said the Turkish military are not going to leave Iraq


RIA News quotes a statement by Turkish President Erdogan:
In 2014, the Iraqi Prime Minister visited us and asked for help in training the military and police. Our military went to Iraq as instructors, their functions are limited to training. The number of instructors may vary depending on the number of students. Now we are not talking about withdrawing our military from Iraq.


Erdogan’s manic desire to “train the Kurdish militia” of Iraq, despite the protests of the Iraqi authorities, is difficult to explain, especially considering that the same Kurds in Syria are Turkish aviation bombed a few weeks ago, and that against the same Kurds on the territory of Turkey itself a real military operation is being carried out with the involvement of special forces and armored vehicles.

In principle, no one expected Erdogan to admit that his units in Iraq control the routes of transportation of stolen oil, hiding behind statements about support for the Kurds in their fight against DAISH (ISIL).
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  1. From Samara Rank
    From Samara
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    11 December 2015 06: 29
    It is clear that they will not leave. But Turkey may well stumble upon a real conflict here not with Russia, but with Iran!

    And Iran is not Syria ...
    1. subbtin.725 Rank
      subbtin.725
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      11 December 2015 06: 40
      The Yankees are rubbing their hands. The whole idea is to weaken Iran and Russia by pulling them into a heated conflict by any means and, as always, not with their own hands.
      1. good7 Rank
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        11 December 2015 07: 39
        May be. but the Turks are people with the Ottoman Empire and they have their own ambitions, more than enough you forgot. how they climbed into the Crimea with humanitarian aid 5 thousand copies of one book!
    2. Misha Honest Rank
      Misha Honest
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      11 December 2015 06: 45
      Quote: From Samara
      It is clear that they will not leave.

      The natural cut of Iraq begins. Northern Iraq seems to be taken over by the Turks, and southern Iraq will be divided among themselves by Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Jordan. As always - the Yankees decided everything for everyone, forgetting to ask the opinion of the Iraqis themselves.
      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2696800
      1. From Samara Rank
        From Samara
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        11 December 2015 07: 04
        It is unlikely to succeed, Iran has its own opinion. The war is brewing, and Iran just can not be ignored ...
        1. Misha Honest Rank
          Misha Honest
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          11 December 2015 07: 19
          Quote: From Samara
          It is unlikely to succeed, Iran has its own opinion. The war is brewing, and Iran just can not be ignored ...

          I doubt that Iran alone can cope with the Turks, Saudis, the UAE and Qatar. Moreover, NATO friends will be happy to help Iran kill, if not troops, then deliveries of weapons and ammunition for sure.
          1. From Samara Rank
            From Samara
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            11 December 2015 07: 24
            ... Iran is a viscous state, it is already really fighting in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon ... and everywhere it is oppressing its line ... and has been fighting for decades now ...

            If it clashes openly with Turkey, then Turkey will lose ... I don’t take into account the Arabs, they are not so hot any warriors.

            In this case, too, NATO will not climb, because it will get stuck there for a long time. Persians are very stubborn ...And fit so you can imagine how much oil will cost That? The main thing in this case, we should not get in there, but only help Iran with Weapons!
            1. Misha Honest Rank
              Misha Honest
              +2
              11 December 2015 07: 40
              Quote: From Samara
              If it clashes openly with Turkey, then Turkey will lose.

              It is unlikely that a situation will ever be possible in which Turkey and Iran will fight one on one. Erdogan is not so stupid as to climb Iran alone.
              Quote: From Samara
              I do not take Arabs into account, they are not so hot any warriors.

              War is not so hot, but they can crush the number. In addition, Israel, which considers the Persians the main threat to its existence, should not be discounted.
              Quote: From Samara
              Nato, too, in this case will not climb, because they get stuck there for a long time.

              And they don’t have to get in, they will only deliver weapons. And the Muslims themselves joyfully gnaw at each other's throats.
              Quote: From Samara
              And fit so do you imagine how much oil will cost That?

              I am not an economist to make oil forecasts, but I can certainly say one thing - the Yankees will get a lot of money on arms deliveries.
              1. From Samara Rank
                From Samara
                0
                11 December 2015 07: 51
                78 408 412 million you can’t crush Iran, Yes, and Saudi Arabia and Qatar are not the most populated countries ...

                This is not the case. It’s enough to launch a couple of rockets in the direction of Saudi Arabia (the main supplier of oil) and oil will cost $ 1.000 ... Russia is more than the United States to cook ...

                Israel is a very prudent and smart state, it just won’t interfere, and history shows that Iran and Israel may well come to an agreement behind the scenes ... On the contrary, Israel will benefit from this conflict because Hezbollah will be occupied by Turkey ... Yes, and Turkey Israel is now visible most of all he hates, since Erdogan threw them, and after all they were almost allies ...
                1. Misha Honest Rank
                  Misha Honest
                  +1
                  11 December 2015 08: 11
                  Quote: From Samara
                  78 408 412 million you can’t crush Iran, Yes, and Saudi Arabia and Qatar are not the most populated countries ...

                  By population: Turkey - 74 932 641 people, SA - 31 521 418 people, UAE - 9 346 129 people, Qatar - 2 168 673 people. I will not count Israel yet. wink
                  Quote: From Samara
                  Israel is a very prudent and smart state, it just won’t interfere

                  If the rest are harnessed, then Israel will at least help with airstrikes.
                  Quote: From Samara
                  and history shows that Iran and Israel may well agree behind the scenes ...

                  Under the pro-American government of Iran, it is possible - in modern reality this is incredible.
                  Quote: From Samara
                  And Israel now apparently hates Turkey most of all, since Erdogan threw them, and after all they were almost allies ...

                  Israel always helps those who benefit from it. But as it seems to me personally, they hate Iran more.
                  1. From Samara Rank
                    From Samara
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                    11 December 2015 08: 28
                    You are mistaken about Israel and Iran. Iran has long instructed Hezbola not to strike at Israel. Israel benefits from a situation where Hezbola has virtually all left Lebanon ... and is fighting in Syria and Iraq ... Israel does not trust anyone, including the United States. Israel has its own policy.

                    Iran has long dreamed of a war with Saudi Arabia, above all, and is looking for an excuse, and Turkey is their long-standing geopolitical enemy ... Iran has just paused so far, is re-equipping and modernizing its army and IRG ...

                    But most importantly, if the Turks and the Arabs share Iraq, then Iran will respond with a war, I have no doubt about it!

                    The population figures given by you do not change the story much, since the Arabs from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE ... I repeat the soldiers are weak and rich, everyone in the USA will fall down ... or Canada!
                    1. Misha Honest Rank
                      Misha Honest
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                      11 December 2015 08: 40
                      Quote: From Samara
                      Iran has long instructed Hezbola not to strike at Israel. Israel benefits from a situation where Hezbollah almost all left Lebanon ... and is fighting in Syria and Iraq ...

                      This is temporary - while Syria needs help. And then hezbollah will return to a showdown with Israel.
                      Quote: From Samara
                      Israel does not trust anyone, including the United States. Israel has its own policy.

                      And I said the same thing. laughing
                      Quote: From Samara
                      Iran has long dreamed of a war with Saudi Arabia, above all, and is looking for an excuse, and Turkey is their long-standing geopolitical enemy ... Iran has just paused so far, is re-equipping and modernizing its army and IRG ...

                      I agree with that. hi
                      Quote: From Samara
                      But most importantly, if the Turks and the Arabs share Iraq, then Iran will respond with a war, I have no doubt about it!

                      But I doubt it - the Iranians, it seems, have never been suicides. Yes, no losing fights started.
                      1. From Samara Rank
                        From Samara
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                        11 December 2015 08: 42
                        So Iran has been in Iraq for a long time, it’s practically leading Iraq ...

                        And Iran will not lose for two reasons.
                        1. The nation is strong, united, adapted to difficulties
                        2. Russia will at least help with weapons, advisers, MTR. Perhaps quietly and China ... the Cuban Black Wasps, for example, train the Syrians ... there will be trainers for Iraq ...
                      2. Misha Honest Rank
                        Misha Honest
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                        11 December 2015 08: 48
                        Quote: From Samara
                        So Iran has been in Iraq for a long time, it’s practically leading Iraq ...

                        You're wrong. Iraq, as before, is not ready to go against Washington’s will - there are too many politicians left to buy the Yankees, which is why it is spinning, like in a frying pan.

                        And Iran will not lose for two reasons.
                        1. The nation is strong, united, adapted to difficulties
                        2. Russia will at least help with weapons, advisers, MTR. Perhaps quietly and China ... the Cuban Black Wasps, for example, train the Syrians ... there will be trainers for Iraq ...

                        Sorry, but it sounds too naive.

                      3. From Samara Rank
                        From Samara
                        0
                        11 December 2015 08: 53
                        Yes, I’m not mistaken, I am. One doesn’t interfere with the other yet. They’re spinning because as long as Iraq doesn’t divide, as soon as they begin to divide, there’s no time for politics and pans,
                        there is war ...
                      4. Misha Honest Rank
                        Misha Honest
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                        11 December 2015 09: 00
                        Quote: From Samara
                        Yes, I’m not mistaken, I am. One doesn’t interfere with the other yet. They’re spinning because as long as Iraq doesn’t divide, as soon as they begin to divide, there’s no time for politics and pans,
                        there is war ...

                        Everything has already been decided - share. Read for yourself: http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2696800
                      5. sa-ag Rank
                        sa-ag
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                        11 December 2015 09: 08
                        Quote: From Samara
                        .That they spin because no one shares Iraq

                        Interesting in Iraq are oil fields, and their Kurds are already with them, they do not pay attention to the central government, they actually divided it, Mosul remained, nobody needs the rest of the land
                2. Zoldat_A Rank
                  Zoldat_A
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                  11 December 2015 08: 25
                  Quote: From Samara
                  78 408 412 million Iran can’t be crushed by the number And Saudi Arabia and Qatar are not the most populated countries...

                  In addition, for several decades of a sweet life, weaned people generally did nothing. They expect that absolutely everything can be paid by the petrodollars, but they do not take into account that in the dispute between the rich and the strong, the strong always wins, because A.S. Pushkin told us that
                  “Everything is mine,” said gold;
                  “Everything is mine,” said damask steel.
                  “I’ll buy everything,” said gold;
                  “I'll take it all,” said damask steel.
                  Just as the miserable little souls of huckster-shoemakers and date merchants were, they remained, despite billions of petrodollars. They would cast gold toilets and sit quietly - no, it became boring, they don’t know with fat how to have fun. They decided to play war game ... Well, well ...
                3. Alexander Romanov Rank
                  Alexander Romanov
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                  11 December 2015 08: 34
                  Quote: From Samara
                  and oil will be worth $ 1.000.

                  Lord etozh how much will it then cost at our gas stations belay
                  1. From Samara Rank
                    From Samara
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                    11 December 2015 08: 38
                    Well, domestic prices can be adjusted in the direction of decrease, if the Treasury is trampled into the Treasury ...
                    1. sherp2015 Rank
                      sherp2015
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                      11 December 2015 09: 52
                      Quote: From Samara
                      Well, domestic prices can be adjusted in the direction of decrease, if the Treasury is trampled into the Treasury ...


                      Under the current government, no matter how much money is sent to the treasury, gas and gas prices will not go down, don’t go to your grandmother
                  2. Zoldat_A Rank
                    Zoldat_A
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                    11 December 2015 09: 08
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Lord etozh how much will it then cost at our gas stations

                    I always considered the dependence of domestic gas prices on oil prices in the world as an invention of our liberal economists. In Turkmenistan, for example, gas and salt are free for the population, and in Venezuela, in terms of rubles, gasoline costs 4 rubles a liter ...

                    This is approximately the same as with rail transportation - our passenger routes are reduced, they say, unprofitable. And all over the world passenger transportation is always unprofitable and is covered by freight profit. So why not low domestic gas prices to offset the profits from the sale of the hill? After all, trade as such is not for the sake of reporting zeros, but to sell something to someone, get something cheaper for yourself ... Imagine if the family of a farmer who produces meat bought meat for cutlets at city prices the market? Nonsense? So, with gas, we think nonsense ...
                  3. S_last Rank
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                    11 December 2015 16: 23
                    And it doesn’t matter, the main thing is that Vagit Yusofovich then will buy not one hotel in Turkey, but 1. This pleases a person.
            2. sa-ag Rank
              sa-ag
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              11 December 2015 07: 59
              Quote: From Samara
              And fit so do you imagine how much oil will cost That?

              If expensive, then it is beneficial to everyone, on the other hand, why is Iran harnessing for other people's oil? The sanctions can be extended for an indefinite period, but he doesn’t really want to, he needs markets, he wants to live better
              1. From Samara Rank
                From Samara
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                11 December 2015 08: 06
                It was originally about the invasion and division of Iraq in favor of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Jordan ... In this situation, Iran will not stand aside.

                In Iraq, the majority of the Shiites, and the Iraqi leaderships are pro-Iranian ...
                1. sa-ag Rank
                  sa-ag
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                  11 December 2015 08: 11
                  Quote: From Samara
                  It was originally about the invasion and division of Iraq in favor of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Jordan ... In this situation, Iran will not stand aside.

                  In Iraq, the majority of the Shiites, and the Iraqi leaderships are pro-Iranian ...

                  Well, in this case, Iran will not break off, because the oil fields control the Kurds, and without oil there are only costs for Iran, why does Iran need Baghdad?
                  1. From Samara Rank
                    From Samara
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                    11 December 2015 08: 14
                    Ask Iran, why have the IRGC been fighting there for a long time? If not for Iran, then Baghdad would have long been occupied by ISIS ...

                    Iran fights everywhere where there are Shiites ... in Yemen, for example ...

                    Iran has enough of its oil, it will not calmly observe how enemies will surround it ...

                    Persians do not fight Kurds ...
                    1. sa-ag Rank
                      sa-ag
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                      11 December 2015 08: 21
                      Quote: From Samara
                      If not for Iran, then Baghdad would have long been occupied by ISIS ...

                      By the way, the Shiites were brought to power by the Americans, they armed them, instructed and gave money, hence Saddam's supporters, the army pulled to the opposite camp, then it was not ISIS, the civil war began aggravated by a religious factor and the more this factor began to play role, the faster ISIS appeared
                      1. From Samara Rank
                        From Samara
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                        11 December 2015 08: 35
                        Yes, this is understandable, but when the US and British ground forces left Iraq, the Shiite government of Iraq was left face to face with the Sunnis ... here they agreed with the Iran on the Union, in Iraq now, as in Syria, the IRGC troops are fighting mainly , the army of Iraq is weak and without experience ...
        2. Dembel77 Rank
          Dembel77
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          11 December 2015 07: 37
          Erdogan said the Turkish military are not going to leave Iraq
          Erdogan himself cannot "declare" anything, it is a talking doll. What will be ordered - that will say.
      2. Zoldat_A Rank
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        11 December 2015 08: 16
        Quote: Misha Honest
        The natural cut of Iraq begins. Northern Iraq seems to be taken over by the Turks, and southern Iraq will be divided among themselves by Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Jordan. As always - the Yankees decided everything for everyone, forgetting to ask the opinion of the Iraqis themselves.

        I guess that they will write about this in American history textbooks in 50 years ...

        But we warned them that not a damn thing would come of it. No, with the stubbornness of an idiot they climb wherever they can reach ....
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    3. Andrey Yuryevich Rank
      Andrey Yuryevich
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      11 December 2015 07: 42
      no one expected recognition from Erdogan
      rats need to be etched ...
      1. Lelek Rank
        Lelek
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        11 December 2015 07: 56
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        rats need to be etched ...


        You probably wanted to say that youblis (devils) need to be wrapped in pork skins and 3 meters into the ground? I agree with that.
    4. Alexander Romanov Rank
      Alexander Romanov
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      11 December 2015 08: 33
      Quote: From Samara
      . But Turkey may well stumble upon a real conflict here not with Russia, but with Iran!

      In this case, NATO will invade Turkey and then the warrior will expand to the scale of a whole continent.
    5. Max_Bauder Rank
      Max_Bauder
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      11 December 2015 11: 14
      This Erdogan is completely hoarse. I read the news that maybe he will decide on yet another provocation, or rather he has such an opportunity. Launch a low-noise torpedo from a submarine from its territorial waters, along the Moscow missile cruiser, which has no anti-torpedo weapons. Drowned, go and prove that these are Turks. And they will smile again. For you will not shoot missiles right through Istanbul. The loud indignation again will not give anything, because we all know that the UN, NATO and other organizations whom they protect, and this is not international law, but US law.
      1. Weyland Rank
        Weyland
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        11 December 2015 16: 54
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        You will not shoot missiles right around Istanbul


        Why not? From the territory controlled by the PKK, and with their own hands ...
        Just why in Istanbul and not in Ankara?
  2. Andrey Yuryevich Rank
    Andrey Yuryevich
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    11 December 2015 06: 29
    a tattered and fragmented Iraq will only continue to state facts, alas, it is not capable of anything.
  3. avvg Rank
    avvg
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    11 December 2015 06: 31
    How did he renew himself?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich Rank
      Andrey Yuryevich
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      11 December 2015 06: 35
      Quote: avvg
      Who is he himself resumed?

      imagined Sahibych. hi
      1. atalef
        atalef
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        11 December 2015 06: 45
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Quote: avvg
        Who is he himself resumed?

        imagined Sahibych. hi

        reincarnation Salah adDina, he imagines himself
        Hi Andrew.
      2. avvg Rank
        avvg
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        11 December 2015 06: 47
        All the same, in my opinion, he is a bad person - "Radish".
    2. donavi49 Rank
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      11 December 2015 10: 34
      He does it because he can. Most likely his plan is now to ensure the combat stability of Barzani and cut off Mosul, and then take it. He has up to six months to do this, with the current dynamics, because in Baiji there is still a dense logging, and the army and Shiites cannot break through to the north, they are 150 km from Mosul.

      Then Barzani with Talabani from Mosul will be able to proclaim Kurdistan along with all of Nineywa. That is, all, absolutely all of Iraq’s northern oil will go to Turkey on super concessional terms.
  4. Mikhail m Rank
    Mikhail m
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    11 December 2015 06: 34
    NATO defensive block. Here is a member of his defense will be kept on foreign territory. Then they will begin to expand the defended territory.
  5. press officer Rank
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    11 December 2015 06: 35
    But look at how the "world democrats" silently swallow it all! And if you tried to start tanks like this in another country, they would have bombed in return! And here they are silent to themselves, as if nothing had happened ... double standards .. am
    1. Lelek Rank
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      11 December 2015 08: 06
      Quote: press attache
      But look at how the "world democrats" silently swallow it all


      This tacit endorsement will cost the EU, the US, and China dearly. Turning a blind eye to the entry of troops by Turkey into Iraq and possibly Syria, the UN is deliberately creating a precedent for a repeat of this situation in any corner of the world. And it’s scary to talk about a Middle Eastern powder keg flavored with oil sauce (there are so many intertwined interests that “Mama don’t cry”).
      (cry.)
    2. Angry orc Rank
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      11 December 2015 10: 06
      eh, some unknown plane would be bombed by this thousand ...
  6. Wolka Rank
    Wolka
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    11 December 2015 06: 36
    and don’t go into the field, it’s clear that this is the Turkish expansion of Iraqi territory in order to capture and control the Iraqi oil industry
  7. Alexander 3 Rank
    Alexander 3
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    11 December 2015 06: 40
    The Turks are already openly saying who they support. The question is what the Kurds think and do in this situation.
  8. evgeny1979 Rank
    evgeny1979
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    11 December 2015 06: 40
    Khan is now unfinished by the Turks !!!
    1. Same lech Rank
      Same lech
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      11 December 2015 06: 49
      Khan is now unfinished by the Turks !!!


      I don’t think that the Turks are fools and play their poker in this game ... BAGDAD can do nothing with the 400 Turkish army in this situation.
      Loud statements in BAGHDAD without reinforcing real actions are nothing more than PR for the faint of heart.
      1. Resident007 Rank
        Resident007
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        11 December 2015 06: 55
        As an example - when Hitler violated all possible covenants, conventions, treaties, what happened, remember? To put it mildly, to a light bulb at all ... This one is the same, until you break them in the horns - they will not understand! And indeed the East only respects and fears power! You can’t liberalize here once you’ve come to this!
  9. rotmistr60 Rank
    rotmistr60
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    11 December 2015 06: 52
    Turkish military will not leave Iraq

    There is an open disregard for international law. Probably the time has come for Russia to forget about these norms. Turks, together with the Americans, bring the conflict to a critical point. It’s hard to say how it can end, but it’s worth waiting for big trouble. These will not stop at anything.
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  14. zinger Rank
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    11 December 2015 07: 00
    Russia will not intervene openly in this conflict. But there will be support for Iraq.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich Rank
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      11 December 2015 07: 04
      Quote: zinger
      Russia will not intervene openly in this conflict. But there will be support for Iraq.

      hrenase you pereklinil ... as many as four times, Schaub probably reached all ... what
      1. samara-58 Rank
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        11 December 2015 07: 26
        oh-ho-ho-ho !!! good lol
      2. iliitchitch Rank
        iliitchitch
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        11 December 2015 07: 33
        Did the button fuse?
        1. rotmistr60 Rank
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          11 December 2015 08: 20
          Okay, with humor. He just hurries to check in, and when he hangs up he starts poking again. And all the rating is "damn".
  15. dchegrinec Rank
    dchegrinec
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    11 December 2015 07: 04
    USA in the bushes waving, everything is fine! Therefore, it behaves like this. Well, a matter of time, it will find a scythe on a stone and we will remember about the greyhound Erdogan!
  16. Svarog5570 Rank
    Svarog5570
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    11 December 2015 07: 05
    Walk on them with pinocchio-like sights gone astray well and then of course I’ll apologize that this kind of thing will not happen again if they sit in their turdistan
    1. donavi49 Rank
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      11 December 2015 10: 38
      170 km from the front lines of the army of Iraq and the Shiites, to the base of the Turks. Therefore, no art will get it.

      There are only two options:
      - The Persians will drive the squadron division and shoot. Iraq may declare that it was he who fired, procured for the assault on Mosul OTRK.
      - A massive air raid, but here without a chance. Even if Erdogan didn’t calculate, the military must be safe, transferring a squadron or two F-16s to cover. Given the fact that Iraq has Su-25s and 4 F-16s armed only with unit AIM-9s, they will not have a chance against the F-16s with AMRAAM and AWACS.
  17. Mama_Cholli Rank
    Mama_Cholli
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    11 December 2015 07: 10
    Either his Iraqi Kurds are inviting (whom he is bombing), then the Iraqi authorities themselves. Moreover, when asked to leave a foreign land, does not leave.
    He takes advantage of the fact that Iraq can’t answer Turkey right now. Provocator of horseradish. (Found a new Sudeten region in Iraq)
  18. Masya masya Rank
    Masya masya
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    11 December 2015 07: 15
    "Iraqi parliamentarian Avatef Nema told RT that this statement by the Turkish president is not true.
    “Without a doubt, everything that Erdogan said today is not true, because there is no agreement or coordination between Erdogan and the government of Iraq. There are no Iraqi forces in the area, ”RT Nema said.
    The parliamentarian claims that in the area, which included the Turkish armed forces, there are only camps of various terrorist groups.

    Original news RT in Russian:
    https://russian.rt.com/article/135947" понятно кого они там "обучают"...
    1. bluesman Rank
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      11 December 2015 08: 10
      Quote: Masya Masya
      There are no Iraqi forces in this area

      then what did they want? No Iraqi - strangers will appear.
  19. Karayakupovo Rank
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    11 December 2015 07: 15
    If you really care about the Kurds, then prepare on your own territory, arm and send to the war, and do not go to a foreign land.
  20. sl22277 Rank
    sl22277
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    11 December 2015 07: 18
    The meanness and cunning of the Turkish elite has been "famous" at all times in Turkey. Here Erdogan sent troops into a sovereign state, bombing the Kurds on foreign territory and goggling his eyes threshing there in justification. Erdogan is a mongrel, on the leash of America, what the owner says he does, just like Poroshenko's lackey!
    1. sl22277 Rank
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      11 December 2015 09: 25
      Evrokr or Turk justify your minus. Or how your leaders Erdogan and Poroshenko managed their shit to the ears and into the bushes! Only in tyhari and behind your back you know how to mischief ?! The words of Shavka and Lackey are still very softly said for you! Neither your own policy, nor your own dignity.
  21. pascal309 Rank
    pascal309
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    11 December 2015 07: 20
    The Turks will not leave from there for anyone, it is the control of oil and gas from Qatar. Erdagon is afraid that we will block their gas, so they agreed with Qatar on gas. And the gas will go right there on Iraqi territory, which is why the troops entered there. Business, nothing more.
    1. donavi49 Rank
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      11 December 2015 10: 43
      No, if there’s a long-playing plan, it’s more elegant (take Mosul from Barzani, declare victorious over IS, proclaim the pro-Turkish Kurdistan along with Nineywa and Mosul, having received huge additional oil reserves that will go to Turkey at the most favorable prices, the Nineyva basins are much more vast and profitable of what the Kurds are using now).

      To get resources from Qatar, they will have to cut the corridor right up to Basra, the sense of sitting in the North. On the contrary, with this seat, he cut off the pipeline for himself, since Iraq and Iran would send it with the project, and without the territories of Iraq or Iran controlled by the army (and very vast ones), nothing would happen.
  22. Odysseus Rank
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    11 December 2015 07: 24
    Such tremendous arrogance is possible only if the actions of Turkey are agreed and supported by the United States.
    We would be nice to:
    1) To raise the question to the UN Security Council, proposing to name Turkey an occupying country, and proposing to arrange a "no-fly zone" over it. It is clear that the resolution will not pass, but the vote will be very symptomatic.
    2) To say to the UN that if Turkey can send troops into the territory of Iraq contrary to the opinion of the Government of Iraq while referring to this government, Russia reserves the right to send troops into the territory of Ukraine contrary to the opinion of the current government of Ukraine, while referring to an invitation from this government.
  23. BOB044 Rank
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    11 December 2015 07: 33
    Oh and oh, rowing in full Erdogan for his policy.
  24. Teplohod Rank
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    11 December 2015 07: 39
    Who would doubt that. Once the bribes were not given right away, then you can continue to occupy.
  25. Al_oriso Rank
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    11 December 2015 07: 46
    if Turkey can send troops into the territory of Iraq contrary to the opinion of the Government of Iraq while referring to this government, Russia reserves the right to send troops to the territory of Ukraine contrary to the opinion of the current government of Ukraine, while referring to an invitation from this government.

    And additionally refer to the agreement of NATO and the OSCE.
  26. maikl50jrij Rank
    maikl50jrij
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    11 December 2015 08: 22
    It turns out interesting ... Tank battalion as instructors! Sick for the whole head and with his imagination is bad! You must be able to lie! No.
    1. bluesman Rank
      bluesman
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      11 December 2015 08: 43
      Quote: maikl50jrij
      It turns out interesting ... Tank battalion as instructors!

      yes, funny, instructors on their M-60s, which the Kurds did not have at birth)
  27. Ruswolf Rank
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    11 December 2015 08: 26
    Erdagon’s position on this issue - The withdrawal of troops from Iraq, Reminds the position of the Ukrainian authorities - On the abolition of the ATO!
    And there and there - the question is to stay with the authorities and alive! Which for those and those means the same thing.
    They know too much.
  28. gg.na Rank
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    11 December 2015 08: 47
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    Quote: zinger
    Russia will not intervene openly in this conflict. But there will be support for Iraq.

    hrenase you pereklinil ... as many as four times, Schaub probably reached all ... what

    He doesn’t have the Internet. A buggy speed is small. He really thinks that the message has not passed and sends it again and again.
  29. individual Rank
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    11 December 2015 08: 54
    Quote:
    Erdogan’s manic desire to “train the Kurdish militia” of Iraq, despite protests by the Iraqi authorities, is difficult to explain
    ...
    But in my opinion everything is very clear:
    Until Erdodan got the horns, he will set aside the territory for the project of the new Port.
    And he imagines himself the new sultan of the Ottoman Empire according to the project of the Saudis and Qatar.
  30. Million Rank
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    11 December 2015 08: 59
    So Erdogan turned out to be just a puppet .....
  31. Migor102 Rank
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    11 December 2015 09: 14
    ........ but they need help!
  32. Shadowcat Rank
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    11 December 2015 09: 36
    So the question is, what is better than the Ottoman or Persian Empire?
    1. bluesman Rank
      bluesman
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      11 December 2015 09: 39
      Quote: ShadowCat
      So the question is, what is better than the Ottoman or Persian Empire?

      Russian ...
      laughing
  33. Gormenghast Rank
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    11 December 2015 10: 53
    Erdogan has come up with a unique new explanation for aggression - "training"rebels who are not very good at the central government in Baghdad. We need to advise the Iraqis."to educate"Turkish Kurds.
  34. Volzhanin Rank
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    11 December 2015 11: 26
    And why not the Iraqi Air Force to level the Turkish troops with sand. located in Iraq?
    What kind of nonsense?
    1. donavi49 Rank
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      11 December 2015 12: 04
      Because they are all beaten down. Iraq has Su-25 and 4 F-16s, on which a total of 8 missiles and 4 AIM-9 prototypes were delivered. Turkey has an F-16 with AMRAAM S7 + RL field (and Iraq simply does not have it there) + AWACS.

      The real option is to cover the Skads. But the Persians can be seen until they dare to put the Scuds.
  35. rotor Rank
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    11 December 2015 13: 50
    Simply put, Turkey has already begun the occupation of Iraq and Syria. And this means that the redistribution of state borders in the Middle East has begun.

    By and large, the official Baghdad, which issued a harsh statement after the Turkish invasion, remains offside. But for other players, the goals are not so much the same. Barzani, apparently, believes that Erdogan will help him fight off the "Islamic State" and voluntarily leave Mosul. But since Ankara, even in a nightmare, cannot imagine the appearance of the Kurdish state, and in any format, it would be naive to expect that these hopes will come true ...

    But the deed has been done; with the entry of Turkish troops into Iraq and Syria, the situation in the Middle East has changed significantly. Nevertheless, the prospects of the Turkish adventure are not too clear, because Erdogan now has to fight on virtually three fronts - not only in Syria and Iraq, but also at home with the rebels of the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK).

    As you know, somewhat earlier, by direct order of President Erdogan, the army attacked several Kurdish cities. In the city of Sylvan, where a curfew was imposed and a transport blockade was established, Turkish troops entered with the support of helicopters and tanks. However, the PKK rebels managed not only to release Sylvan, but also, as a result of a successful military operation, liberate several more cities in Eastern Turkey. According to recent reports, the Turkish army is not just retreating, but fleeing ...

  36. Vvp Rank
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    11 December 2015 15: 40
    So the Turkish military will be buried in Iraq.