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Erdogan said the Turkish military are not going to leave Iraq

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Turkish President Erdogan said that the Turkish military will not leave Iraq. Recall that in the northern part of Iraq (Ninewa province) the Iraqi authorities noted the presence of at least 1 thousand Turkish military, as well as 20 Turkish tanks. According to official Ankara, the contingent is necessary for "guarding the Peshmerga training camp (Kurdish militia)." A few days ago, official Baghdad issued an ultimatum to Turkey on the urgent need for the military to withdraw from Iraq and asked NATO to act on Ankara. To no avail ...


Erdogan said the Turkish military are not going to leave Iraq


RIA News quotes a statement by Turkish President Erdogan:
In 2014, the Iraqi Prime Minister visited us and asked for help in training the military and police. Our military went to Iraq as instructors, their functions are limited to training. The number of instructors may vary depending on the number of students. Now we are not talking about withdrawing our military from Iraq.


Erdogan’s manic desire to “train the Kurdish militia” of Iraq, despite the protests of the Iraqi authorities, is difficult to explain, especially considering that the same Kurds in Syria are Turkish aviation bombed a few weeks ago, and that against the same Kurds on the territory of Turkey itself a real military operation is being carried out with the involvement of special forces and armored vehicles.

In principle, no one expected Erdogan to admit that his units in Iraq control the routes of transportation of stolen oil, hiding behind statements about support for the Kurds in their fight against DAISH (ISIL).
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  1. From Samara
    From Samara 11 December 2015 06: 29 New
    10
    It is clear that they will not leave. But Turkey may well stumble upon a real conflict here not with Russia, but with Iran!

    And Iran is not Syria ...
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 11 December 2015 06: 40 New
      22
      The Yankees are rubbing their hands. The whole idea is to weaken Iran and Russia by pulling them into a heated conflict by any means and, as always, not with their own hands.
      1. good7
        good7 11 December 2015 07: 39 New
        +2
        May be. but the Turks are people with the Ottoman Empire and they have their own ambitions, more than enough you forgot. how they climbed into the Crimea with humanitarian aid 5 thousand copies of one book!
    2. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 11 December 2015 06: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: From Samara
      It is clear that they will not leave.

      The natural cut of Iraq begins. Northern Iraq seems to be taken over by the Turks, and southern Iraq will be divided among themselves by Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Jordan. As always - the Yankees decided everything for everyone, forgetting to ask the opinion of the Iraqis themselves.
      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2696800
      1. From Samara
        From Samara 11 December 2015 07: 04 New
        +7
        It is unlikely to succeed, Iran has its own opinion. The war is brewing, and Iran just can not be ignored ...
        1. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 11 December 2015 07: 19 New
          0
          Quote: From Samara
          It is unlikely to succeed, Iran has its own opinion. The war is brewing, and Iran just can not be ignored ...

          I doubt that Iran alone can cope with the Turks, Saudis, the UAE and Qatar. Moreover, NATO friends will be happy to help Iran kill, if not troops, then deliveries of weapons and ammunition for sure.
          1. From Samara
            From Samara 11 December 2015 07: 24 New
            +1
            ... Iran is a viscous state, it is already really fighting in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon ... and everywhere it is oppressing its line ... and has been fighting for decades now ...

            If it clashes openly with Turkey, then Turkey will lose ... I don’t take into account the Arabs, they are not so hot any warriors.

            In this case, too, NATO will not climb, because it will get stuck there for a long time. Persians are very stubborn ...And fit so you can imagine how much oil will cost That? The main thing in this case, we should not get in there, but only help Iran with Weapons!
            1. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 11 December 2015 07: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: From Samara
              If it clashes openly with Turkey, then Turkey will lose.

              It is unlikely that a situation will ever be possible in which Turkey and Iran will fight one on one. Erdogan is not so stupid as to climb Iran alone.
              Quote: From Samara
              I do not take Arabs into account, they are not so hot any warriors.

              War is not so hot, but they can crush the number. In addition, Israel, which considers the Persians the main threat to its existence, should not be discounted.
              Quote: From Samara
              Nato, too, in this case will not climb, because they get stuck there for a long time.

              And they don’t have to get in, they will only deliver weapons. And the Muslims themselves joyfully gnaw at each other's throats.
              Quote: From Samara
              And fit so do you imagine how much oil will cost That?

              I am not an economist to make oil forecasts, but I can certainly say one thing - the Yankees will get a lot of money on arms deliveries.
              1. From Samara
                From Samara 11 December 2015 07: 51 New
                0
                78 408 412 million you can’t crush Iran, Yes, and Saudi Arabia and Qatar are not the most populated countries ...

                This is not the case. It’s enough to launch a couple of rockets in the direction of Saudi Arabia (the main supplier of oil) and oil will cost $ 1.000 ... Russia is more than the United States to cook ...

                Israel is a very prudent and smart state, it just won’t interfere, and history shows that Iran and Israel may well come to an agreement behind the scenes ... On the contrary, Israel will benefit from this conflict because Hezbollah will be occupied by Turkey ... Yes, and Turkey Israel is now visible most of all he hates, since Erdogan threw them, and after all they were almost allies ...
                1. Misha Honest
                  Misha Honest 11 December 2015 08: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: From Samara
                  78 408 412 million you can’t crush Iran, Yes, and Saudi Arabia and Qatar are not the most populated countries ...

                  By population: Turkey - 74 932 641 people, SA - 31 521 418 people, UAE - 9 346 129 people, Qatar - 2 168 673 people. I will not count Israel yet. wink
                  Quote: From Samara
                  Israel is a very prudent and smart state, it just won’t interfere

                  If the rest are harnessed, then Israel will at least help with airstrikes.
                  Quote: From Samara
                  and history shows that Iran and Israel may well agree behind the scenes ...

                  Under the pro-American government of Iran, it is possible - in modern reality this is incredible.
                  Quote: From Samara
                  And Israel now apparently hates Turkey most of all, since Erdogan threw them, and after all they were almost allies ...

                  Israel always helps those who benefit from it. But as it seems to me personally, they hate Iran more.
                  1. From Samara
                    From Samara 11 December 2015 08: 28 New
                    +1
                    You are mistaken about Israel and Iran. Iran has long instructed Hezbola not to strike at Israel. Israel benefits from a situation where Hezbola has virtually all left Lebanon ... and is fighting in Syria and Iraq ... Israel does not trust anyone, including the United States. Israel has its own policy.

                    Iran has long dreamed of a war with Saudi Arabia, above all, and is looking for an excuse, and Turkey is their long-standing geopolitical enemy ... Iran has just paused so far, is re-equipping and modernizing its army and IRG ...

                    But most importantly, if the Turks and the Arabs share Iraq, then Iran will respond with a war, I have no doubt about it!

                    The population figures given by you do not change the story much, since the Arabs from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE ... I repeat the soldiers are weak and rich, everyone in the USA will fall down ... or Canada!
                    1. Misha Honest
                      Misha Honest 11 December 2015 08: 40 New
                      0
                      Quote: From Samara
                      Iran has long instructed Hezbola not to strike at Israel. Israel benefits from a situation where Hezbollah almost all left Lebanon ... and is fighting in Syria and Iraq ...

                      This is temporary - while Syria needs help. And then hezbollah will return to a showdown with Israel.
                      Quote: From Samara
                      Israel does not trust anyone, including the United States. Israel has its own policy.

                      And I said the same thing. laughing
                      Quote: From Samara
                      Iran has long dreamed of a war with Saudi Arabia, above all, and is looking for an excuse, and Turkey is their long-standing geopolitical enemy ... Iran has just paused so far, is re-equipping and modernizing its army and IRG ...

                      I agree with that. hi
                      Quote: From Samara
                      But most importantly, if the Turks and the Arabs share Iraq, then Iran will respond with a war, I have no doubt about it!

                      But I doubt it - the Iranians, it seems, have never been suicides. Yes, no losing fights started.
                      1. From Samara
                        From Samara 11 December 2015 08: 42 New
                        -1
                        So Iran has been in Iraq for a long time, it’s practically leading Iraq ...

                        And Iran will not lose for two reasons.
                        1. The nation is strong, united, adapted to difficulties
                        2. Russia will at least help with weapons, advisers, MTR. Perhaps quietly and China ... the Cuban Black Wasps, for example, train the Syrians ... there will be trainers for Iraq ...
                      2. Misha Honest
                        Misha Honest 11 December 2015 08: 48 New
                        +2
                        Quote: From Samara
                        So Iran has been in Iraq for a long time, it’s practically leading Iraq ...

                        You're wrong. Iraq, as before, is not ready to go against Washington’s will - there are too many politicians left to buy the Yankees, which is why it is spinning, like in a frying pan.

                        And Iran will not lose for two reasons.
                        1. The nation is strong, united, adapted to difficulties
                        2. Russia will at least help with weapons, advisers, MTR. Perhaps quietly and China ... the Cuban Black Wasps, for example, train the Syrians ... there will be trainers for Iraq ...

                        Sorry, but it sounds too naive.

                      3. From Samara
                        From Samara 11 December 2015 08: 53 New
                        0
                        Yes, I’m not mistaken, I am. One doesn’t interfere with the other yet. They’re spinning because as long as Iraq doesn’t divide, as soon as they begin to divide, there’s no time for politics and pans,
                        there is war ...
                      4. Misha Honest
                        Misha Honest 11 December 2015 09: 00 New
                        0
                        Quote: From Samara
                        Yes, I’m not mistaken, I am. One doesn’t interfere with the other yet. They’re spinning because as long as Iraq doesn’t divide, as soon as they begin to divide, there’s no time for politics and pans,
                        there is war ...

                        Everything has already been decided - share. Read for yourself: http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2696800
                      5. sa-ag
                        sa-ag 11 December 2015 09: 08 New
                        +1
                        Quote: From Samara
                        .That they spin because no one shares Iraq

                        Interesting in Iraq are oil fields, and their Kurds are already with them, they do not pay attention to the central government, they actually divided it, Mosul remained, nobody needs the rest of the land
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 11 December 2015 08: 25 New
            +4
            Quote: From Samara
            78 408 412 million Iran can’t be crushed by the number And Saudi Arabia and Qatar are not the most populated countries.

            In addition, for several decades of a sweet life, weaned people generally did nothing. They expect that absolutely everything can be paid by the petrodollars, but they do not take into account that in the dispute between the rich and the strong, the strong always wins, because A.S. Pushkin told us that
            “Everything is mine,” said gold;
            “Everything is mine,” said damask steel.
            “I’ll buy everything,” said gold;
            “I'll take it all,” said damask steel.
            Just as the miserable little souls of huckster-shoemakers and date merchants were, they remained, despite billions of petrodollars. They would cast gold toilets and sit quietly - no, it became boring, they don’t know with fat how to have fun. They decided to play war game ... Well, well ...
          3. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 11 December 2015 08: 34 New
            +4
            Quote: From Samara
            and oil will be worth $ 1.000.

            Lord etozh how much will it then cost at our gas stations belay
            1. From Samara
              From Samara 11 December 2015 08: 38 New
              -4
              Well, domestic prices can be adjusted in the direction of decrease, if the Treasury is trampled into the Treasury ...
              1. sherp2015
                sherp2015 11 December 2015 09: 52 New
                +2
                Quote: From Samara
                Well, domestic prices can be adjusted in the direction of decrease, if the Treasury is trampled into the Treasury ...


                Under the current government, no matter how much money is sent to the treasury, gas and gas prices will not go down, don’t go to your grandmother
            2. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 11 December 2015 09: 08 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Lord etozh how much will it then cost at our gas stations

              I always considered the dependence of domestic gas prices on oil prices in the world as an invention of our liberal economists. In Turkmenistan, for example, gas and salt are free for the population, and in Venezuela, in terms of rubles, gasoline costs 4 rubles a liter ...

              This is approximately the same as with rail transportation - our passenger routes are reduced, they say, unprofitable. And all over the world passenger transportation is always unprofitable and is covered by freight profit. So why not low domestic gas prices to offset the profits from the sale of the hill? After all, trade as such is not for the sake of reporting zeros, but to sell something to someone, get something cheaper for yourself ... Imagine if the family of a farmer who produces meat bought meat for cutlets at city prices the market? Nonsense? So, with gas, we think nonsense ...
            3. S_last
              S_last 11 December 2015 16: 23 New
              0
              And it doesn’t matter, the main thing is that Vagit Yusofovich then will buy not one hotel in Turkey, but 1. This pleases a person.
      2. sa-ag
        sa-ag 11 December 2015 07: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: From Samara
        And fit so do you imagine how much oil will cost That?

        If expensive, then it is beneficial to everyone, on the other hand, why is Iran harnessing for other people's oil? The sanctions can be extended for an indefinite period, but he doesn’t really want to, he needs markets, he wants to live better
        1. From Samara
          From Samara 11 December 2015 08: 06 New
          +1
          It was originally about the invasion and division of Iraq in favor of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Jordan ... In this situation, Iran will not stand aside.

          In Iraq, the majority of the Shiites, and the Iraqi leaderships are pro-Iranian ...
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 11 December 2015 08: 11 New
            -2
            Quote: From Samara
            It was originally about the invasion and division of Iraq in favor of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Jordan ... In this situation, Iran will not stand aside.

            In Iraq, the majority of the Shiites, and the Iraqi leaderships are pro-Iranian ...

            Well, in this case, Iran will not break off, because the oil fields control the Kurds, and without oil there are only costs for Iran, why does Iran need Baghdad?
            1. From Samara
              From Samara 11 December 2015 08: 14 New
              +3
              Ask Iran, why have the IRGC been fighting there for a long time? If not for Iran, then Baghdad would have long been occupied by ISIS ...

              Iran fights everywhere where there are Shiites ... in Yemen, for example ...

              Iran has enough of its oil, it will not calmly observe how enemies will surround it ...

              Persians do not fight Kurds ...
              1. sa-ag
                sa-ag 11 December 2015 08: 21 New
                0
                Quote: From Samara
                If not for Iran, then Baghdad would have long been occupied by ISIS ...

                By the way, the Shiites were brought to power by the Americans, they armed them, instructed and gave money, hence Saddam's supporters, the army pulled to the opposite camp, then it was not ISIS, the civil war began aggravated by a religious factor and the more this factor began to play role, the faster ISIS appeared
                1. From Samara
                  From Samara 11 December 2015 08: 35 New
                  +1
                  Yes, this is understandable, but when the US and British ground forces left Iraq, the Shiite government of Iraq was left face to face with the Sunnis ... here they agreed with the Iran on the Union, in Iraq now, as in Syria, the IRGC troops are fighting mainly , the army of Iraq is weak and without experience ...
  2. Dembel77
    Dembel77 11 December 2015 07: 37 New
    +2
    Erdogan said the Turkish military are not going to leave Iraq
    Сам Эрдоган ничего "заявлять" не может, это кукла говорящая. Что прикажут - то и скажет.
  • Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 11 December 2015 08: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: Misha Honest
    The natural cut of Iraq begins. Northern Iraq seems to be taken over by the Turks, and southern Iraq will be divided among themselves by Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Jordan. As always - the Yankees decided everything for everyone, forgetting to ask the opinion of the Iraqis themselves.

    I guess that they will write about this in American history textbooks in 50 years ...

    But we warned them that not a damn thing would come of it. No, with the stubbornness of an idiot they climb wherever they can reach ....
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  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2015 07: 42 New
    +4
    no one expected recognition from Erdogan
    rats need to be etched ...
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 11 December 2015 07: 56 New
      +5
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      rats need to be etched ...


      You probably wanted to say that youblis (devils) need to be wrapped in pork skins and 3 meters into the ground? I agree with that.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 11 December 2015 08: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: From Samara
    . But Turkey may well stumble upon a real conflict here not with Russia, but with Iran!

    In this case, NATO will invade Turkey and then the warrior will expand to the scale of a whole continent.
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 11 December 2015 11: 14 New
    +1
    This Erdogan is completely hoarse. I read the news that maybe he will decide on yet another provocation, or rather he has such an opportunity. Launch a low-noise torpedo from a submarine from its territorial waters, along the Moscow missile cruiser, which has no anti-torpedo weapons. Drowned, go and prove that these are Turks. And they will smile again. For you will not shoot missiles right through Istanbul. The loud indignation again will not give anything, because we all know that the UN, NATO and other organizations whom they protect, and this is not international law, but US law.
    1. Weyland
      Weyland 11 December 2015 16: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Max_Bauder
      You will not shoot missiles right around Istanbul


      Why not? From the territory controlled by the PKK, and with their own hands ...
      Just why in Istanbul and not in Ankara?
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2015 06: 29 New
    +3
    a tattered and fragmented Iraq will only continue to state facts, alas, it is not capable of anything.
  • avvg
    avvg 11 December 2015 06: 31 New
    0
    How did he renew himself?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2015 06: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: avvg
      Who is he himself resumed?

      imagined Sahibych. hi
      1. atalef
        atalef 11 December 2015 06: 45 New
        +4
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: avvg
        Who is he himself resumed?

        imagined Sahibych. hi

        reincarnation Salah adDina, he imagines himself
        Hi Andrew.
      2. avvg
        avvg 11 December 2015 06: 47 New
        +1
        Все равно на мой взгляд, он нехороший человек-"Редиска".
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 11 December 2015 10: 34 New
      0
      He does it because he can. Most likely his plan is now to ensure the combat stability of Barzani and cut off Mosul, and then take it. He has up to six months to do this, with the current dynamics, because in Baiji there is still a dense logging, and the army and Shiites cannot break through to the north, they are 150 km from Mosul.

      Then Barzani with Talabani from Mosul will be able to proclaim Kurdistan along with all of Nineywa. That is, all, absolutely all of Iraq’s northern oil will go to Turkey on super concessional terms.
  • Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 11 December 2015 06: 34 New
    +3
    NATO defensive block. Here is a member of his defense will be kept on foreign territory. Then they will begin to expand the defended territory.
  • press officer
    press officer 11 December 2015 06: 35 New
    +3
    Зато посмотрите как "мировые деРмократы" молча все это глотают! И ведь попробуй так в другой стране танки завести, уже бы бомбили бы в ответку! А тут молчат себе, как ни в чем не бывало... двойные стандарты.. am
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 11 December 2015 08: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: press attache
      Зато посмотрите как "мировые деРмократы" молча все это глотают


      Это молчаливое одобрение дорого обойдётся и ЕС, и США, и Китаю. Закрывая глаза на ввод войск Турцией на территории Ирака и, возможно, Сирии, ООН сознательно создаёт прецедент для повторения этой ситуации в любом уголке мира. А уж о ближневосточной пороховой бочке приправленной нефтяным соусом и говорить страшно (тут столько интересов переплетено, что "мама не горюй").
      (cry.)
    2. Angry orc
      Angry orc 11 December 2015 10: 06 New
      0
      eh, some unknown plane would be bombed by this thousand ...
  • Wolka
    Wolka 11 December 2015 06: 36 New
    +1
    and don’t go into the field, it’s clear that this is the Turkish expansion of Iraqi territory in order to capture and control the Iraqi oil industry
  • Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 11 December 2015 06: 40 New
    +1
    The Turks are already openly saying who they support. The question is what the Kurds think and do in this situation.
  • evgeny1979
    evgeny1979 11 December 2015 06: 40 New
    -1
    Khan is now unfinished by the Turks !!!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 11 December 2015 06: 49 New
      +4
      Khan is now unfinished by the Turks !!!


      I don’t think that the Turks are fools and play their poker in this game ... BAGDAD can do nothing with the 400 Turkish army in this situation.
      Loud statements in BAGHDAD without reinforcing real actions are nothing more than PR for the faint of heart.
      1. Rezident007
        Rezident007 11 December 2015 06: 55 New
        +8
        As an example - when Hitler violated all possible covenants, conventions, treaties, what happened, remember? To put it mildly, to a light bulb at all ... This one is the same, until you break them in the horns - they will not understand! And indeed the East only respects and fears power! You can’t liberalize here once you’ve come to this!
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 December 2015 06: 52 New
    +6
    Turkish military will not leave Iraq

    There is an open disregard for international law. Probably the time has come for Russia to forget about these norms. Turks, together with the Americans, bring the conflict to a critical point. It’s hard to say how it can end, but it’s worth waiting for big trouble. These will not stop at anything.
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  • zinger
    zinger 11 December 2015 07: 00 New
    0
    Russia will not intervene openly in this conflict. But there will be support for Iraq.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2015 07: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: zinger
      Russia will not intervene openly in this conflict. But there will be support for Iraq.

      hrenase you pereklinil ... as many as four times, Schaub probably reached all ... what
      1. samara-58
        samara-58 11 December 2015 07: 26 New
        +2
        oh-ho-ho-ho !!! good lol
      2. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 11 December 2015 07: 33 New
        +1
        Did the button fuse?
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 11 December 2015 08: 20 New
          +3
          Хорошо, с юмором. Просто спешит отметиться, а когда подзависает начинает повторно тыкать. А все рейтинг "проклятый".
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 11 December 2015 07: 04 New
    +3
    USA in the bushes waving, everything is fine! Therefore, it behaves like this. Well, a matter of time, it will find a scythe on a stone and we will remember about the greyhound Erdogan!
  • Svarog5570
    Svarog5570 11 December 2015 07: 05 New
    +2
    Walk on them with pinocchio-like sights gone astray well and then of course I’ll apologize that this kind of thing will not happen again if they sit in their turdistan
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 11 December 2015 10: 38 New
      0
      170 km from the front lines of the army of Iraq and the Shiites, to the base of the Turks. Therefore, no art will get it.

      There are only two options:
      - The Persians will drive the squadron division and shoot. Iraq may declare that it was he who fired, procured for the assault on Mosul OTRK.
      - A massive air raid, but here without a chance. Even if Erdogan didn’t calculate, the military must be safe, transferring a squadron or two F-16s to cover. Given the fact that Iraq has Su-25s and 4 F-16s armed only with unit AIM-9s, they will not have a chance against the F-16s with AMRAAM and AWACS.
  • Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 11 December 2015 07: 10 New
    +1
    Either his Iraqi Kurds are inviting (whom he is bombing), then the Iraqi authorities themselves. Moreover, when asked to leave a foreign land, does not leave.
    He takes advantage of the fact that Iraq can’t answer Turkey right now. Provocator of horseradish. (Found a new Sudeten region in Iraq)
  • Masya masya
    Masya masya 11 December 2015 07: 15 New
    +3
    "Иракский парламентарий Аватеф Нема сообщила RT, что это заявление турецкого президента не соответствует действительности.
    “Without a doubt, everything that Erdogan said today is not true, because there is no agreement or coordination between Erdogan and the government of Iraq. There are no Iraqi forces in the area, ”RT Nema said.
    The parliamentarian claims that in the area, which included the Turkish armed forces, there are only camps of various terrorist groups.

    Original news RT in Russian:
    https://russian.rt.com/article/135947" понятно кого они там "обучают"...
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 11 December 2015 08: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: Masya Masya
      There are no Iraqi forces in this area

      then what did they want? No Iraqi - strangers will appear.
  • Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 11 December 2015 07: 15 New
    +1
    If you really care about the Kurds, then prepare on your own territory, arm and send to the war, and do not go to a foreign land.
  • sl22277
    sl22277 11 December 2015 07: 18 New
    +1
    Подлость и коварство турецкой элиты "славилась" во все времена Турции. Вот Эрдоган ввёл войска в суверенное государство , бомбит курдов на чужой территории и выпучив глаза чё то там молотит в оправдание. Эрдоган-это шавка,на поводке Америки,что хозяин скажет он выполняет,точно так же как и лакей Порошенко!
    1. sl22277
      sl22277 11 December 2015 09: 25 New
      0
      Evrokr or Turk justify your minus. Or how your leaders Erdogan and Poroshenko managed their shit to the ears and into the bushes! Only in tyhari and behind your back you know how to mischief ?! The words of Shavka and Lackey are still very softly said for you! Neither your own policy, nor your own dignity.
  • pascal309
    pascal309 11 December 2015 07: 20 New
    +3
    The Turks will not leave from there for anyone, it is the control of oil and gas from Qatar. Erdagon is afraid that we will block their gas, so they agreed with Qatar on gas. And the gas will go right there on Iraqi territory, which is why the troops entered there. Business, nothing more.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 11 December 2015 10: 43 New
      0
      No, if there’s a long-playing plan, it’s more elegant (take Mosul from Barzani, declare victorious over IS, proclaim the pro-Turkish Kurdistan along with Nineywa and Mosul, having received huge additional oil reserves that will go to Turkey at the most favorable prices, the Nineyva basins are much more vast and profitable of what the Kurds are using now).

      To get resources from Qatar, they will have to cut the corridor right up to Basra, the sense of sitting in the North. On the contrary, with this seat, he cut off the pipeline for himself, since Iraq and Iran would send it with the project, and without the territories of Iraq or Iran controlled by the army (and very vast ones), nothing would happen.
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 11 December 2015 07: 24 New
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    Such tremendous arrogance is possible only if the actions of Turkey are agreed and supported by the United States.
    We would be nice to:
    1) Поставить вопрос в СБ ООН предложив назвать Турцию страной-оккупантом,и предложив устроить над ней "безполетную зону".Ясно что резолюция не пройдет,но голосование будет весьма симптоматичным.
    2) To say to the UN that if Turkey can send troops into the territory of Iraq contrary to the opinion of the Government of Iraq while referring to this government, Russia reserves the right to send troops into the territory of Ukraine contrary to the opinion of the current government of Ukraine, while referring to an invitation from this government.
  • BOB044
    BOB044 11 December 2015 07: 33 New
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    Oh and oh, rowing in full Erdogan for his policy.
  • Teplohod
    Teplohod 11 December 2015 07: 39 New
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    Who would doubt that. Once the bribes were not given right away, then you can continue to occupy.
  • Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 11 December 2015 07: 46 New
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    if Turkey can send troops into the territory of Iraq contrary to the opinion of the Government of Iraq while referring to this government, Russia reserves the right to send troops to the territory of Ukraine contrary to the opinion of the current government of Ukraine, while referring to an invitation from this government.

    And additionally refer to the agreement of NATO and the OSCE.
  • maikl50jrij
    maikl50jrij 11 December 2015 08: 22 New
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    It turns out interesting ... Tank battalion as instructors! Sick for the whole head and with his imagination is bad! You must be able to lie! No.
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 11 December 2015 08: 43 New
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      Quote: maikl50jrij
      It turns out interesting ... Tank battalion as instructors!

      yes, funny, instructors on their M-60s, which the Kurds did not have at birth)
  • Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 11 December 2015 08: 26 New
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    Erdagon’s position on this issue - The withdrawal of troops from Iraq, Reminds the position of the Ukrainian authorities - On the abolition of the ATO!
    And there and there - the question is to stay with the authorities and alive! Which for those and those means the same thing.
    They know too much.
  • gg.na
    gg.na 11 December 2015 08: 47 New
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    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Quote: zinger
    Russia will not intervene openly in this conflict. But there will be support for Iraq.

    hrenase you pereklinil ... as many as four times, Schaub probably reached all ... what

    He doesn’t have the Internet. A buggy speed is small. He really thinks that the message has not passed and sends it again and again.
  • individual
    individual 11 December 2015 08: 54 New
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    Quote:
    Erdogan’s manic desire to “train the Kurdish militia” of Iraq, despite protests by the Iraqi authorities, is difficult to explain
    .
    But in my opinion everything is very clear:
    Пока Эрдодан не получил по "рогам" он столбит территорию под проект новой Порты.
    And he imagines himself the new sultan of the Ottoman Empire according to the project of the Saudis and Qatar.
  • Million
    Million 11 December 2015 08: 59 New
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    So Erdogan turned out to be just a puppet .....
  • Migor102
    Migor102 11 December 2015 09: 14 New
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    ........ but they need help!
  • Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 11 December 2015 09: 36 New
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    So the question is, what is better than the Ottoman or Persian Empire?
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 11 December 2015 09: 39 New
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      Quote: ShadowCat
      So the question is, what is better than the Ottoman or Persian Empire?

      Russian ...
      laughing
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 December 2015 10: 53 New
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    Эрдоган придумал новое уникальное объяснение агрессии - "training" повстанцев, которые не очень хорошо относятся к центральной власти в Багдаде. Надо иракцам посоветовать "to educate" турецких курдов.
  • Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 11 December 2015 11: 26 New
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    And why not the Iraqi Air Force to level the Turkish troops with sand. located in Iraq?
    What kind of nonsense?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 11 December 2015 12: 04 New
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      Because they are all beaten down. Iraq has Su-25 and 4 F-16s, on which a total of 8 missiles and 4 AIM-9 prototypes were delivered. Turkey has an F-16 with AMRAAM S7 + RL field (and Iraq simply does not have it there) + AWACS.

      The real option is to cover the Skads. But the Persians can be seen until they dare to put the Scuds.
  • rotor
    rotor 11 December 2015 13: 50 New
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    Simply put, Turkey has already begun the occupation of Iraq and Syria. And this means that the redistribution of state borders in the Middle East has begun.

    By and large, the official Baghdad, which issued a harsh statement after the Turkish invasion, remains offside. But for other players, the goals are not so much the same. Barzani, apparently, believes that Erdogan will help him fight off the "Islamic State" and voluntarily leave Mosul. But since Ankara, even in a nightmare, cannot imagine the appearance of the Kurdish state, and in any format, it would be naive to expect that these hopes will come true ...

    But the deed has been done; with the entry of Turkish troops into Iraq and Syria, the situation in the Middle East has changed significantly. Nevertheless, the prospects of the Turkish adventure are not too clear, because Erdogan now has to fight on virtually three fronts - not only in Syria and Iraq, but also at home with the rebels of the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK).

    As you know, somewhat earlier, by direct order of President Erdogan, the army attacked several Kurdish cities. In the city of Sylvan, where a curfew was imposed and a transport blockade was established, Turkish troops entered with the support of helicopters and tanks. However, the PKK rebels managed not only to release Sylvan, but also, as a result of a successful military operation, liberate several more cities in Eastern Turkey. According to recent reports, the Turkish army is not just retreating, but fleeing ...

  • Vvp
    Vvp 11 December 2015 15: 40 New
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    So the Turkish military will be buried in Iraq.