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Who in Russia against Putin?

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A strange question, especially when you consider that this is not about liberals. We are talking about quite worthy (at first glance) representatives of our society.


To begin with, on our pages in the comments, our president is very often criticized. And, at times, not without reason. Indeed, since the president of Russia is the guarantor of the constitution and order, he is in demand. Undoubtedly.

For smart people, it is obvious that Putin is not a spiderman from comic books that can save everyone and everything in every single case. For this there is a vertical of power. I mean a bunch of president - Council of Federations - governors.

I would like to say a few words about the governors to begin with. But first a small party retreat.

Do we have a party in power in Russia? A silly question, of course. Everyone knows her well. "United Russia". Probably not a lie if I say that 95% of high-ranking officials are in this party. Without being a "United Russia", it is unreal to break into power.

Who makes up the core of Edra is also understandable. Cases of bygone days, of course, but the backbone of the “United Russia” was “Fatherland” Luzhkov, “All Russia” Shaimiyev and “Unity” Shoigu. It is clear that where Shoigu, Putin is there. Actually, “Unity” was created under Putin, but no one expected that they would do everything so quickly in the elections.

And this very connection happened, as a result of which the "EP" turned out.

The most interesting thing happened in 2005, when the party leadership changed. In 2005, Gryzlov, Volodin and Vorobyev organized the adoption of the law on elections to the State Duma exclusively on party lists. Then the State Duma adopted amendments to federal legislation, allowing the party that won the elections to the regional parliament to propose to the President of Russia his candidacy for the governorship.

In the overwhelming majority of regions, this right belonged to United Russia. The overwhelming majority of governors are members of United Russia. In April 2006, Boris Gryzlov announced that the party’s members are already 66 from 88 leaders of the Russian regions. From 2005, the leaders of large industrial corporations began to join the party, for it really smelled of the party of power and the budget.

Did Putin have a direct connection to this? I think no. Unproven, of course, but I am sure that there was something for him to do, except for Duma jokes. Moreover, we should not forget that the Unity party in the triad was the smallest in terms of numbers. And, moreover, Luzhkov, the co-chairman of the "United Russia Party", had no less weight than anyone else. Until a certain point.

"ER" was not just a party of power, but a party that controls almost everything in Russia through governors.

Whether Putin was a real party leader, I think, is a rhetorical question. "ER" has become the party of "hosts on the ground." Governors, businessmen, business owners.

If you look at my land, then in principle, before 2009, in the Voronezh region, it was possible to observe the rotation of the same persons. A sort of cycle of governor, deputy mayor, and so on. The same person. Moreover, all Voronezh governors (Kovalev, Tsapin, Shabanov, Kulakov) were former members of the CPSU, and (except for Kovalev, the former director of a large plant), they had posts in regional committees and regional executive committees. Better, however, this cycle did not become. The area really rolled down.

But in 2009, there was a gift from Medvedev. Perhaps the only thing for which we are all grateful to Mr. Medvedev is his former Minister of Agriculture, Gordeyev. In 2008, he was the only minister who spoke out against Russia's accession to the WTO, and the minister immediately ceased to be. But he played an honorary exile by the governor of the Voronezh region.

However, there was a complete bad luck, and the process went. Gordeev was a really good business manager. And most of them are happy with it. 89% in the 2014 election is indicative. Real 89%.

Why am I so focused on this? Just because the Voronezh region is more the exception than the rule. The Governor Sent. In most of the regions of Russia, the local United Russia members were sitting, and they were sitting. Regardless. And they sit not just, but as foster princes.

Probably, it is not necessary to say that the prosecutor's office, the police, and the inspections in each city, too, as it were, are not in the Liberal Democratic Party. Plus another deputies from "their".

Is it easy to break such a system and make it work somehow differently? Triple-run governor dugout, two lines of defense ahead, reserves behind.

And naturally, one cannot help but desire to cling to the source.

Does Putin understand this? Naturally. In Moscow, “on the carpet”, everything “FOR” is not simple, but with arms and legs. And at home ... At home, as you, dear readers write, everyone is his own master. Hence, all the special effects of our life in many ways and grow.

Well, since Vladimir Vladimirovich is a clever and understanding person, the fact that the “United Russia” is no longer his ancestral domain is also understood. And she was never his ever since the "Unity" merged with Luzhkov.

And then it was created by someone's smart initiative ONF. It seems to be with an eye to the support of "ER", as many have noted. But it turned out quite the opposite, purely Russian. ONF has become a real counterweight, preventing people from living in peace, mostly representatives of the "ER".

And then the real war began.

The habit of controlling everything in the region and the fear that Moscow will receive an additional and objective (at least independent from the governor) source of information and an instrument of control for regional authorities, leads to the fact that in many regions the authorities do not stop trying to capture the headquarters of ONF and put my people there.

Only December 7, Putin reminded the governor of the Perm region Basargin about the need to build a normal work with the local activists of the Popular Front (and the “front-line soldiers” themselves told the president about the regional administration’s attempt to put the people in charge of the Perm branch) to “thunder” Ulyanovsk.

They expelled the former mayor of the city, Marina Bespalova, from United Russia. Excluded at a meeting of the local political council, unanimously, for "actions discrediting the party, damaging the political interests of the party" - immediately after it became known that the presidium of the highest council of the party recommended that Bespalov be appointed head of the regional public reception office of the UR leader Dmitry Medvedev.

Interestingly, Moscow recommends, and in Ulyanovsk in a panic expelled. Why would it suddenly.

Regional authorities do not want to get under the control of Moscow. What is this unanimity? Fear that independent sources of information will interfere with a quiet and peaceful life "on the ground." Examples? Yes please.

Ulan-Ude, where the investigation of Artem Cola ended in a brawl. Mayor Alexander Golkov asked the local deputies for his premium in 420 thousand rubles. This is despite the fact that the city’s budget deficit is about 120 million rubles. There are 16 million for the advertising activity of the mayor’s office, there is a bonus fund in 6 million (data from the ONF of Buryatia), but only 4 million were “found” for the preferential school meals. That is, 28 rubles per student per day.

Awards, speak? And the "PR campaign"? Oh well...

However, deputies voted for the adoption of such a budget. 23 - for, 2 - against. Understandable alignment?

For the sake of justice I will not pass by my outskirts. Our mayor, Voronezh, Alexander Gusev, also came to the attention of the ONF. According to the media, information has passed that selfish mayor is counting on retirement in 190 thousand rubles. The rustle was fair, the representatives of the mayor's office all assured everyone that a mistake had crept into the calculations, and no one talked about this amount. Although Gusev, as a man, 20 spent years in hazardous industries, may retire even now. Now, if he had fulfilled the required 25 years of municipal service, then yes, then with all the allowances he would have 81 400 rubles. But not 190.

So are liberals the true enemies of Putin and Russia? It seems to me, no. Liberals, they just whine in some means of mass misinformation, nothing more.

But the "United Russia" barrier, which sits quietly and zhiryat far from Moscow - this problem is more substantial than Ganapolsky, Sobchak and Makarevich. They do not need PR. They need to be quiet, calm and unanimous. At our expense. And there were enough examples, only Sakhalin and Komi were worth something.

And, by the way, with the beginning of active hostilities of the ONF and the above incidents, I think that further it is unlikely to be better. If only because none of these officials can be confident in a peaceful tomorrow.

Tomorrow the ruble will fall to 120 for a dollar, it will be necessary to distract the electorate with something. Bombing in Syria will not be so urgent soon, unless (God forbid, of course) there is no loss. So someone will need to expose and plant. As Sakhalin Khoroshavin. So, it’s necessary to take it now, so that later it would be good for health.

Our mentioned Gusev, at first, was Gordeev's vice-governor for economics. He inherited from the former governor. Former, Fists, with the first deputy Naumov under investigation, by the way. For theft from the budget. And Gusev with the UK also dragged, but it did not start. Although the vice-governor removed. Now here, mayor ...

"EP" does not throw its.

Long it happened. But, it seems to me, clearly. Yes, we have enough enemies, especially abroad. And friends are not enough. But the enemies that are among us, they will be more dangerous than the Americans. And we are voting for them and waiting for change ... But we get a guerrilla war. Something like this...
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  1. SS68SS
    SS68SS 11 December 2015 12: 53 New
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    We are talking about quite worthy (at first glance) representatives of our society.


    And we vote for them and wait for changes ... But we get a guerrilla war. Something like this...


    But it really is. There are too many local "kings". For example, Samara's Merkushkin reports to Putin about a strong growth in construction in the region, and local construction companies are in ruin, because the lion's share of the contracts was given to Mordovian builders and all construction materials are supplied to the region by firms somehow affiliated with Mordovcement. And as you know, Merkushkin until 2012 was the president of Mordovia. Randomness ????? or....
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 11 December 2015 13: 05 New
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      Quote: SS68SS
      We are talking about quite worthy (at first glance) representatives of our society.


      And we vote for them and wait for changes ... But we get a guerrilla war. Something like this...


      But indeed it is ...

      Let’s imagine for a moment that the president is not Putin, but for example Zyuganov, the same officials and deputies would have been members of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, if Zhirinovsky had been the president, then those same persons in the LDPR, and if they were from a party of beer lovers all the faces would drink beer. This is not the 5th column, this is the 6th and we choose it ourselves.
      1. Bath
        Bath 11 December 2015 13: 10 New
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        Representatives of the business community stated that there are no external threats to Russia at all, there are only internal ones, and they come from officials. “I know what I’m saying because I have been doing business in Belgium, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria and China for nine years. If you turn off the news on Russian TV, you can forget about the entire external threat,” said Dmitry Potapenko, managing partner of Management Development Group. According to the businessman, one should speak about internal challenges, since the state itself inflicts "knockout blows" on its own economy. As examples, he listed "an embargo aimed at redistributing the market and beneficial to specific companies that stuck to power," "exorbitant loan rates that Obama did not set us," a decree on the destruction of sanctioned products, and, finally, the "Rotenberg tax." "All these strikes are artificial," Potapenko said.
        1. ancient
          ancient 11 December 2015 18: 18 New
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          Quote: Bath
          Representatives of the business community said that there are no external threats to Russia, there are only internal threats, and they come from officials.


          Such "news" from the IEF will not be shown on "urya-channels" where everything is only fellow , and then all of a sudden the people .. will finally begin to think lol

          Here is a video version of this performance ... it is so much better..perceivable..especially for .. "approved" wassat

          1. ancient
            ancient 11 December 2015 18: 24 New
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            Quote: ancient
            Such "news" from the IEF will not be shown on "urya-channels" where everything is only


            An article from the author of course .... lol there are no words ... only the name must be changed to .. "That one does not jump ...." wassat or somewhere it already was ... not so long ago wink

            Well, in continuation of the topic on the speeches of PEOPLE (!!!!) at the IEF ... Wow ... how they "dunk" on the very .. "I can not" .. all this ... as the author says .. "the party of power " wassat

            1. Aleksandr Tot
              Aleksandr Tot 11 December 2015 23: 16 New
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              Ancient, you are probably very ancient, if you still know how to guess thoughts and are sure that your dots and emoticons will replace knowledge. You make it clear to readers that the one who did not understand that your king is naked is the one ...!?
          2. ancient
            ancient 11 December 2015 18: 29 New
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            Quote: ancient
            Such "news" from the IEF will not be shown on "urya-channels" where everything is only


            Yeah .. the author himself .. "on guard" .. once the second comment .. "hacked" wassat
            What .. THE TRUTH hits hard? wink

            Okay .. let's "omit" the preamble ... let's continue already .. without offensive to ... the "party of power" wassat

            1. severniy
              severniy 11 December 2015 18: 50 New
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              If only the provinces ... The same weavers with his ingenious pressure and burning .. Kuban hit, lost here the whole country rules ...
              It is clear that Vova has no time, but at least it should be alerted when you only draw positive graphs. Well, all good deeds only through teleconference bridges will now, in direct so to speak, petition?
              1. Koshak
                Koshak 12 December 2015 10: 51 New
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                Quote: severniy
                It is clear that Vova once ...

                And Vova, who is this? Is your friend? Do you drink cognac with him in the evenings, or did you sit next to them in the kindergarten on the pots?
                1. THE_SEAL
                  THE_SEAL 13 December 2015 19: 18 New
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                  koshak, you stick your tongue out of someone else’s point. And then he climbs there well autumn.
            2. War and Peace
              War and Peace 11 December 2015 21: 32 New
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              a month or two ago, Putin held a meeting of senior officials on FISH! A joke, how many correct words have been said, that there are a lot of all kinds of resellers, that you need to sell fish to Russia, and not to Japan or Korea, that you need to help fishermen, build and renew the fleet, that the cost of the catch is THREE POPs, and stores sell for HUNDREDS OF RUBLES. So what? FISH AS HAVE RISEN IN STORES and RISES. And everything that he decides there with his government accepts, everything is NERB ...
              1. larand
                larand 12 December 2015 09: 22 New
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                Quote: war and peace
                And everything that he decides there with his government accepts, everything is NERB ...

                This nonsense is called Eref capitalism. There is no crime that the Eref bourgeois will not commit for the sake of profit. And all these meetings and instructions from the Kremlin are only for biomass, so as not to gurgle much. It seems like He sees everything and knows and thinks about the people.
            3. Aleksandr Tot
              Aleksandr Tot 11 December 2015 23: 00 New
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              You are strange. Set dots - it seems that someone who did not understand it and is not capable. The author quite clearly stated the topic. For you, reading thoughts - ...!
              1. War and Peace
                War and Peace 12 December 2015 08: 51 New
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                Quote: Aleksandr Tot
                You are strange. Set dots - it seems that someone who did not understand it and is not capable. The author quite clearly stated the topic. For you, reading thoughts - ...!


                so I say that the conversation is not over and you can continue ...
                1. Aleksandr Tot
                  Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 20: 41 New
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                  Can. So I say. A conversation is not a dispute; knowledge is not necessary. There will be enough seeds or popcorn.
            4. Aleksandr Tot
              Aleksandr Tot 11 December 2015 23: 18 New
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              Ancient, you are not just ancient, you are dense.
            5. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 13 December 2015 14: 58 New
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              36 inspection bodies is certainly a bacchanalia. But what is the use of them?
              60% of counterfeit alcohol on the market speaks of the complete failure and inaction of these ... "bodies." The recent deaths are completely on their conscience.
              The author is very careful and ornate trying to separate the Guarantor from the EP and the governors, only now everyone knows that these are his personal subordinates and stooges.
              I consider the Front's work to be of great importance. But which of the “targeted” officials was dismissed and punished? And why are the law enforcement agencies not engaged in this work, but some outsiders?
              Until the oligarchs of privatization of the 90s sit, until the authorities have no moral right and the potential to stop the theft.
          3. ancient
            ancient 11 December 2015 18: 52 New
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            Quote: ancient
            Such "news" from the IEF


            MODERATORS..who among you is shocked by the speech of the Director of the collective farm named after V.I. Lenin, respected Pavel Grudinin?
            What are you THIRD TIME DELETING IT ???? belay
            Or his skirmish at the end with .. "rulers" .. that you are deleting the film ????
            So it’s already hanging on the net ... a long time ago and gained so many views that .. lol

            1. goncharov.62
              goncharov.62 11 December 2015 22: 36 New
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              "What are you REMOVING it THIRD TIME ???" + Answer - vassals. And the brains were sold like Gavnapolskis! Probably a good "party" past ...
            2. Aleksandr Tot
              Aleksandr Tot 11 December 2015 23: 25 New
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              Strongly ancient, do not appeal to "got so many views" - they are browsing for the sake of fun, to make sure that not only they, but others are weird.
              If you don’t understand this, read the brain experts.
          4. ancient
            ancient 11 December 2015 18: 54 New
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            Quote: ancient
            Such "news" from the IEF


            MODERATORS..who among you is shocked by the speech of the Director of the collective farm named after V.I. Lenin, respected Pavel Grudinin?
            What are you THIRD TIME DELETING IT ???? belay
            Or his skirmish at the end with .. "rulers" .. that you are deleting the film ????
            So it’s already hanging on the net ... a long time ago and gained so many views that .. lol

            1. Aleksandr Tot
              Aleksandr Tot 11 December 2015 23: 48 New
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              ANCIENT, why are you fixated on views and networks? Networks are not truth; networks are diagnosis. The State Department also does not understand the difference. And you there too!?
          5. THE_SEAL
            THE_SEAL 13 December 2015 20: 12 New
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            Potapenko is saying everything right. Just for bullshit
            entered into polemics with him?
          6. Azitral
            Azitral 14 December 2015 09: 47 New
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            Will he start thinking? AND? Well, bolder? "Will he sweep away the rotten anti-people regime in a single impulse?" Is that what you want? Then I am against it.
            Ps: I agree about Gordeev. Voronezh has become a completely charming city. Only traffic jams ...
            1. VS
              VS 14 December 2015 13: 14 New
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              Voronezh has become "charming" ... factories, camp sites, camps, land in ... the maskvachi bought and sold ... not life, but continuous shops and pharmacies ... the remains of the air-rd are barely smoldering ... charming ...
        2. pesny2006
          pesny2006 14 December 2015 08: 32 New
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          And not only that. Our best factories, even the defense industry, work in the most difficult conditions. They are crushed by their own officials. Housing and communal services, banks. And loans ?! Our (or not ours?) SBERBANK. For us, 18-23%, and in Europe and even in Ukraine 3-5%. What about education? In general, it's time to change everything. And the sooner the better.
      2. yuriy55
        yuriy55 11 December 2015 13: 55 New
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        And let's imagine for a moment that the president is not Putin, but Zyuganov, for example, the same officials and deputies would have been members of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, if Zhirinovsky had been the president, then those same people in the LDPR, and if they all people would drink beer. This is not the 5th column, this is the 6th and we choose it ourselves.


        The choice can be discussed when there is someone to choose from. So far, the alternative is similar to:
        1. ava09
          ava09 11 December 2015 14: 24 New
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          Quote: yuriy55
          The choice can be discussed when there is someone to choose from. So far, the alternative is similar to:



          You are deeply mistaken, Good Lord. Are you saying that we have a choice between Rafaelo and Methanol (poison)? Moreover, the hands in front and palms are open. As if not so, hands behind the back, palms are clamped, and in each poison. And we have no choice, because there are no CHOICES, and we are offered a FALSE choice in both palms. Because - "Democracy", SHULER bank, and the lop-eared "choose" with a clever look !!!
          1. unfriendly
            unfriendly 13 December 2015 13: 54 New
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            If anything depended on the elections, would you not be allowed to participate in them. (C) Mark Twain
        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 11 December 2015 14: 53 New
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          yuriy55

          How can you evaluate your choice? Now, if you provide a choice of 10 candidates, by what criteria should I choose?

          Let's remember the king priest. During the collapse of the Russian Empire. The Bolsheviks forgot about the royal family. And they gave them complete freedom of choice. Go to relatives abroad, stare in the country. Do what you want, we are not up to you, your business to the throat.

          The area where the royal family settled gave them the full possible protection and support. Moreover, some sailor arrived (I don’t remember the names) and said that he was assigned to protect the royal family and organized a circular defense against all ill-wishers.

          The question is why? What does the royal family mean, out of work for the people? Who is the king, in general? What is he alpha male? Viceroy of God?

          Reply.

          The king, the bearer of the moral values ​​of the country. Based on his views, he makes legislation and keeps the law. He received these moral values ​​from his educators. Whoever understands this is responsible for the fate of his king. And for the commoner, the king is the viceroy of God.

          Now tell me how to choose these measures? What are the criteria?

          Well, GDP, of course, well done. And the popular front on time.
      3. 34 region
        34 region 11 December 2015 14: 13 New
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        With this, everything is clear. It’s like in a Muslim country the president will not be a Jew, but in Israel a Muslim. If we proceed from party affiliations (and membership in a party is essentially a pass to power), then we need to create a party of business executives. Here is the result of economic growth, you go to the top. There is no growth, you sink to the bottom. Today, a member of the edra is a wealthy person who earns a stable income under the bankrupt management of his plot. This is normal? Again, you can recall the experience of the union. You bring benefits, there is an office apartment, a car. Type increased rations. No use, live like everyone else.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 11 December 2015 15: 01 New
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          34 region

          According to moral criteria, you need to choose. But everyone will not look into the soul.

          There is a certain principle. Household, a person making a career in production rather than in commerce is more suitable for elected positions.

          In production, the laws of nature, physics do not allow to dissemble. A person at work receives vital immunity against lies. There are no self-deceptions in production. Only unambiguity.

          This is one of the conditional criteria.
      4. War and Peace
        War and Peace 11 December 2015 14: 17 New
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        the fact that they stole in Russia has always been compensated by the severity of punishments, but now the slogan and the ruling ideology has become - "steal and get lost and nothing will happen to you", as well as - "we will not abandon our thieves", which is clearly seen in the case of Stouretkin-Vasilyeva or a redhead with a rosnana, where billions go, and the output is zilch.
        And nothing changes for the better, well, the Sakhalin governor got caught stealing, well, he probably violated the rules i.e. the concept of the upper common fund - "you need not grab everything, but only as much as they say, otherwise you will sit down", which is what happened. But everything else remains in place, rightly the same muzzles are shuffled up and down, but checked and cut off, they will not betray , the economy is built on oil and gas and therefore, as Putin said, our society is "sustainable".
        Billions are flowing out of the country in the form of reparations for losing the Cold War, but even this little Putin is being shaken to the Western "partners" for further "privatizations", when Russian property becomes not Russian-land-water is the main thing, therefore all kinds of defaults, sanctions, wars, in the course of changing the rules of the game, is what the IMF is doing now, Ukraine is not abandoned or the further expansion of NATO.
        Will all these ERos, chinodraly, businessmen - for whom Putin is a dear father, will they be able to become his support at a critical moment? I think they will leave it for the sake of preserving the "acquired by excessive labor" in foreign accounts. But are there any claims to them? that's how he raised this liberal but uncontrolled economy ...
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 11 December 2015 15: 08 New
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          War and Peace

          Leave Putin alone. He did everything right and is doing it.

          Serdyukov and Vasiliev are derivatives of their time. If corruption cannot be defeated, it must be led. Serdyukov did a purge among army generals; he took upon himself the burden of responsibility for difficult decisions. That corrupt money did not go abroad.

          GDP at the time led corruption. Proceeds from corruption schemes allowed to replenish the country's budget and made it possible to restore the state.

          Only administrative methods cannot achieve the expected result. There are many more or less effective methods of leadership.
          1. War and Peace
            War and Peace 11 December 2015 16: 31 New
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            Quote: gladcu2
            Serdyukov did a purge among army generals,


            he’d better clean his Vasiliev thief ...

            Quote: gladcu2
            GDP at the time led corruption. Proceeds from corruption schemes allowed to replenish the country's budget and made it possible to restore the state.


            in your head, if you can call it that, everything is messed up, there is a concept of GOOD AND EVIL, so STEALING is an ABSOLUTE EVIL and has always been punishable at all times and among all peoples, and when they say that theft is a "good" then this person not a member of society, but a criminal. And if Putin is a thief, then he should go to jail. It is strange that elementary things need to be explained.
            1. evgeny1979
              evgeny1979 11 December 2015 21: 47 New
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              As if Vasilyeva did all alone? ...
            2. Aleksandr Tot
              Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 00: 50 New
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              War and Peace, are you sure that Serdyukov and Vasilyeva were not the clowns of the script, which were bought by suckers-grand-eaters and their insane employers?
              Get solvents and other cleanings from diagnoses or labels!
              Your friends are bombed not by passport, but by place.
          2. Aleksandr Tot
            Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 00: 19 New
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            gladcu2, I agree with you in many ways. VVP and Sobchak senior "went crazy" and financed the special services with smuggling and other illegal activities, since there were most likely no other options. I am not any truth in any instance, and I have no information other than publicly available. I see what is in fact. And this fact is in full view of all who see.
            gladcu2, I’m not the first time to run into red cons on VO. I agree with you.
            VO is a business project. True, nothing to do with it.
      5. War and Peace
        War and Peace 11 December 2015 14: 30 New
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        Quote: vovanpain
        Let’s imagine for a moment that the president is not Putin, but for example Zyuganov, the same officials and deputies would have been members of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, if Zhirinovsky had been the president, then those same persons in the LDPR, and if they were from a party of beer lovers all the faces would drink beer. This is not the 5th column, this is the 6th and we choose it ourselves.


        and that under the communists they stole so much, such as Vasiliev? or billions under the communists that flowed abroad? or under the communists, who distributed and sold land to the Chinese, as in the Far East? Or was there so many billionaire oligarchs? Or maybe maybe they spat on Russia, like any Baltic, Ukrainians, Poles, Georgians, but NATO brazenly and stubbornly climbed east?
        In the past and this year there was a gigantic reduction in doctors across the country — when did this happen in Soviet times? So uncle can not imagine ...
        1. ivan48857
          ivan48857 11 December 2015 15: 43 New
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          They stole no less, just could not show it. So clandestine millionaires flourished among officials, and traveled to Zaporozhets.
          1. War and Peace
            War and Peace 11 December 2015 16: 19 New
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            Quote: ivan48857
            They stole no less, just could not show it. So clandestine millionaires flourished among officials, and traveled to Zaporozhets.


            Do not lie, the guilds, who, what else they did there, never had BILLIONS OF DOLLARS all the more on foreign accounts, lie somehow in a plausible way ...
            1. ivan48857
              ivan48857 12 December 2015 05: 25 New
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              don't lie, the guilds who

              workshop engineers and now do not have billions, I spoke about officials who ALWAYS steal. And the so-called. shop workers - my mother in the eighties worked at the poultry farm - "carried" everything from the director to the last locksmith. It was like that everywhere: in sausage factories, sausage; in mines, coal. What are rich ...
          2. vgorlekost
            vgorlekost 11 December 2015 19: 31 New
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            Quote: ivan48857
            They stole no less, just could not show it. So clandestine millionaires flourished among officials, and traveled to Zaporozhets.

            Where did you get the information about a little less?
            But the fact that 100% had work, no one died of hunger, and anyone had any kind of housing, etc., etc., you can’t argue with that. Only the country was larger and more than double the people. What is happening now? Especially with modern technology and the absence of any control. How so?
            Can’t the same Putin-ELEMENTARY-ONE-PURCHASE go to the Internet and read about what ordinary people write on the forums? Why???
            1. ivan48857
              ivan48857 12 December 2015 05: 30 New
              +2
              Can’t the same Putin-ELEMENTARY-ONE-PURCHASE go to the Internet and read about what ordinary people write on the forums?
              It is not necessary to write letters on forums. Here you, for example, hand over your neighbor who lives beyond our means, or a colleague who "takes away" something from work .... vooot, I will not hand over either. That's where it all starts, in different places only the scales are different.
        2. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 12 December 2015 01: 16 New
          -4
          War and Peace.
          You really - So uncle can not imagine ....
          Read in the Word, compare what you write with dictionaries, and then insert it into the "topic".
          Of course, I jerk, but do not be disillusioned.
          Look into your own "under the communists" and everything that is connected with communism and communists. I hope he will let go of the herald of the Zyuganovschina.
      6. 8 inches
        8 inches 11 December 2015 15: 21 New
        +2
        and if you imagine for a moment that the authorities, for example, would not be traditional? then the same officials and deputies would go out to the people in thongs and boas ...
      7. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 11 December 2015 18: 03 New
        +5
        Quote: vovanpain
        Let’s imagine for a moment that the president is not Putin, but for example Zyuganov, the same officials and deputies would have been members of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, if Zhirinovsky had been the president, then those same persons in the LDPR, and if they were from a party of beer lovers all the faces would drink beer. This is not the 5th column, this is the 6th and we choose it ourselves.


        So maybe all the same in the upcoming elections. I agree on something with you, of course, if I understand correctly, but if each of us votes for the one we consider worthy, then maybe, if I agree with you, the GDP will also form a really working thought?
        Perhaps the thought is wild, but why not, based on your comment. Although forgive me, colleague, I can hardly believe it. hi
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 11 December 2015 23: 50 New
          11
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Perhaps the thought is wild, but why not, based on your comment. Although forgive me, colleague, I can hardly believe it.

          Sorry to answer late, only returned from work. hi Well, here’s the very thing that’s such wild thoughts. If we compare the work of our venerable Duma for a different period of time, then in my opinion no matter what the thought, the country is governed by the first person anyway; there is the Grand Duke, Tsar, Emperor Emperor, Secretary General, President since ancient times, it happened in Russia, there were all kinds of seven-boyars, and seven-bankers, it all ended badly. No matter how gentlemen the liberals would vote for me in the next Duma elections, I would vote for the Communists either, or if someone creates the Stalinist All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, then naturally for them, but unfortunately we won’t find Stalin as President, Zyuganov still won’t win again, they repeat but don’t vote for Zhirik, But I don’t need any other Prokhorovs and other businessmen, they will be sold by traders like the USSR he sold the hunchbacked one, but ruined it. But apart from Putin, I don’t see anyone yet. But this is only my private opinion, you said the namesake correctly;
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          So maybe all the same in the upcoming elections we all think

          Respectfully to you and all VO users hi
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 13 December 2015 12: 50 New
            +2
            Zyuganov still won’t win again, but he needs it.
            upon arrival at the head of the party.
      8. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 13 December 2015 11: 22 New
        +2
        And we vote for them and wait for changes ..

        we choose it ourselves.

        question to the marshals?:) - Have you ever sat in the election commission?
      9. 1536
        1536 14 December 2015 06: 29 New
        +1
        Do we choose "her"? The voter turnout is below 20%, you can talk to anyone: "did you vote for him?" "No!", And he (she) is already "working" as a deputy. And what kind of democracy is this? The candidates are generally unknown who and where. What's that if they join the party, where the President will be from. So, it is very likely that they and the place of their birth in the area where they want to sit for feeding also seem to have begun to choose. This, of course, is not a statement, but some kind of weirdness, because I did not run with them to kindergarten and school, I did not go along the same road. Maybe others have been with them, I don't know. That is how we live.
    2. Aroma77
      Aroma77 11 December 2015 13: 09 New
      +8
      Here is some evidence of this - the TFR spokesman Vladimir Markin confirmed the death of the main prosecution witness in the case of the ex-governor of Sakhalin, Nikolai Kran. This is Khoroshavin’s business.

      Although they write that the prosecutor was ill with an incurable disease, but oh, how can I not believe that they didn’t help him leave the world faster.
      1. STALK1974
        STALK1974 11 December 2015 13: 18 New
        +3
        And remember Yukos, there all the deputies of Khodorkovsky were terminally ill, one had cancer, the other had AIDS.
      2. 34 region
        34 region 11 December 2015 14: 16 New
        +6
        Witnesses do not live long. In the investigation of the Minister of Defense, others also died on time.
    3. akmalinin
      akmalinin 11 December 2015 13: 12 New
      +1
      In every region of the country there are people who assure that some factories and enterprises in their city belong to Putin. In the time of Yeltsin, they said the same thing, they probably think that they inherited laughing
    4. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 11 December 2015 13: 38 New
      12
      Quote: SS68SS
      There are too many local "kings" ...
      - With such a "fifth column" we also have a decent number of external enemies ... And how long will we lisp with them, losing up to half of our GDP from corruption in our critical time? Be that as it may, but Stalin before the Second World War cleared out the rear, even got to Trotsky. And our people only swear!
    5. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 11 December 2015 13: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: SS68SS
      There are too many local "kings".

      when the first messages went to Khoroshavin - I turned on RBC - and the first thing I heard there was not " for what ? "Or" what is he to blame?".
      а why exactly OH ???
      it says sad
    6. samara-58
      samara-58 11 December 2015 13: 59 New
      -1
      "Marshal", do you live in Samara ???
    7. Belousov
      Belousov 11 December 2015 14: 02 New
      +5
      And also investments in the agro-industrial complex decreased by 25%. But again he promised to transfer all the lower and middle officials ("forgetting" about himself) to the Lada Vesta. When Putin could not fly to Samara, Merkushkin had to run to the church to light a candle, take the president along the Samara roads ...
      1. Fox
        Fox 11 December 2015 19: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: Belousov
        set a candle to run, take the president along Samara roads ...

        and in Samara, EMNIP, roads, like, the mayor should deal ... not?
    8. Belousov
      Belousov 11 December 2015 14: 02 New
      +1
      And also investments in the agro-industrial complex decreased by 25%. But again he promised to transfer all the lower and middle officials ("forgetting" about himself) to the Lada Vesta. When Putin could not fly to Samara, Merkushkin had to run to the church to light a candle, take the president along the Samara roads ...
    9. Tor5
      Tor5 11 December 2015 14: 12 New
      0
      Well, this is not the discovery of America, unfortunately - it was, it is, and it will be so ....
    10. tomket
      tomket 11 December 2015 14: 50 New
      +9
      Quote: SS68SS
      But it really is. There are too many local "kings".

      This is not entirely true. After all, "local kings" do not grow on the ground after a spring rain. They are flesh and blood that is the very part of the vertical of power, and part of the bureaucratic apparatus on which Putin relies. And with the same Gordeev, a very illustrative example. As soon as someone expresses his opinion, he automatically goes into exile from the post of minister. And if you go "in line" with the policy of the guarantor, then you will not be abandoned and even your mistress will be "forgiven and released", and at the same time you can mow as much as you like. It should be understood that Putin will not undertake a serious "purge." In 2012, when at the beginning it was not clear whether Putin would stand up to the elections as a political figure, when a lot of emotional speeches were made, for some reason he did not resort to a seemingly safe move - to put a couple of three particularly thieving officials or governors, or on the extreme case to expel.
      1. epsilon571
        epsilon571 11 December 2015 17: 44 New
        +8
        tomket (2) RU Today, 14:50 PM
        In 2012, when at the beginning it was not clear whether Putin would stand in the elections as a political figure, when there were a lot of emotional speeches, for some reason he didn’t resort to a seemingly win-win move - put a couple of especially thieving officials or governors, or at the extreme case kick out.


        I remember well that time, I remember rallies and riots on the streets of Moscow. And especially the entry of Mr. President into the Kremlin.
        "... Along the deserted embankment, where even crows and sparrows, as regulars of these places, have become anxiously quiet, black limousines moved towards the Kremlin, and it seems that time itself stopped over the city in anticipation of something sinister. And at the same time on the other side of the city The unimaginable was happening. Dressed in knightly armor and hiding behind shields, riot police squads dispersed disgruntled people. People shouted and fought back with placards, they cried, but no one wanted to retreat ... "

        I am not a writer, but this happened exactly as the witness was.
        1. epsilon571
          epsilon571 11 December 2015 18: 35 New
          +5
          I apologize gentlemen, but is it so customary to minus the truth? Maybe someone's memory has fallen, but I'm still in my right mind. I have the honor!
    11. Atrix
      Atrix 11 December 2015 16: 25 New
      14
      I personally have only one question. Why hasn’t done corruption with 15 years or is the West again hindering ??? With such popular support, it was possible to hang all corrupt officials on poles, and people would just clap their hands.
    12. Fox
      Fox 11 December 2015 18: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: SS68SS
      For example, Samara Merkushkin reports to Putin about the strong growth of construction in the region, and local construction companies are in full swing,

      Putin put Merkushkin and put it correctly. Artyakov is a rare city, the whole region (and before that VAZ) was ruined. Construction would have been given? So they would have built it! Otherwise they just sawed the loot. Now they are building in Togliatti at great speed, and housing prices Have you forgotten the SC like "my crooks", how much and for how much did they build? about the quality to remind? the roads ... this is a sad topic ... under Merkushkin in Togliatti last year they "were able to master" 15% ... TOTAL !!! under artyakov, they would have mastered everything. To a kopeck. But here he did not let steal, and a miracle happened: 1 km of roads is NOT worth 10 million !!!
      king ... these would be kings in all areas, the order would have been quicker.
    13. Platonich
      Platonich 11 December 2015 18: 48 New
      +3
      Now you can understand Comrade. Stalin !!!
      1. Azitral
        Azitral 14 December 2015 12: 37 New
        0
        Face of Caucasian nationality? A criminal with a "Gutalin" chase? Why not understand something? The closest psychology. From that and popularity.
    14. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 11 December 2015 21: 05 New
      +4
      Also in the subject.

      1. 34 region
        34 region 12 December 2015 04: 41 New
        0
        Capacious video. Tip. Post it in an article from ... For the 17th year. Many survived thanks to October 17th. It is still unknown (or understandable by modern events) the fate of Russia. According to foreign servers, is this a stone in VO? But in any case, the video is interesting to discuss with the people. The issue of taxation is also interesting to discuss (popular vision). Road destruction is a moot point. A 60-ton railway wagon and a train of 60-ton cars do not destroy the embankment, and do 20-ton trucks carry catastrophic consequences? Maybe the whole thing is in the calculations of engineers or the greed of builders? hi Again. Submit this video for discussion. The video is very interesting and controversial. hi Sincerely. hi
        1. goblin xnumx
          goblin xnumx 13 December 2015 11: 52 New
          +1
          and who then destroys the roadbed? —the right lane in two ditches — the track is clearly not from a passenger car — can the Americans secretly ride abrams-stealth at night? not smart
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 13 December 2015 14: 35 New
            0
            But in general, all the examples of asphalt roads prompted me to think: maybe it's not just about the roadside thieves? Maybe in our climate there would be only concrete roads? Well, the asphalt doesn’t survive, even crack!
      2. Disant
        Disant 13 December 2015 19: 22 New
        0
        tell and press the buttons on the calculator for an hour, in order to lead the viewer to the fact that protests by truckers were planned from abroad - he’s just a human being.
        he is unfastened
        it would be better if money for weighted mobile control were unfastened. Give in each region 3-5 machines with equipment, put public observers there, a popular front, and let them control it. There will be more sense.
        and so the money paid by drivers to a website - they’ll rub it - no one will notice
    15. THE_SEAL
      THE_SEAL 13 December 2015 19: 15 New
      0
      SHO Again "dizziness with success." And the boyars are bad. I do not believe. Article minus.
      But Potapenko says everything correctly.
    16. Olfred
      Olfred 14 December 2015 00: 23 New
      0
      this army of officials, but to the front! and it’s already disgusting to look at these sleek Hari who lie and do not blush ... they say that everything is fine, it’s good, maybe it’s good, you see, they mean your pocket. hi
    17. BLACK-SHARK-64
      BLACK-SHARK-64 14 December 2015 10: 45 New
      0
      Now take any governor for a "Faberge" - you can go to Kolyma for 25 years 1000 %%%% ... am
  2. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 11 December 2015 12: 57 New
    0
    Well after no action the guarantor in the situation with the SU-24 issues has become even greater.
    Keeping DAM and KO near its scrotum, or essentially not doing anything with the Euro-Assault and its sanctions, and now it’s really straining to bend under the rot (and this is exactly the bend and nothing more).
    Yeah! The second NATO bombing of the SAR and the silence of the "super terrible S-400" is not comme il faut either.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2015 13: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: Vladimir
      Yeah! The second NATO bombing of the SAR and the silence of the "super terrible S-400" is not comme il faut either.

      sir, are you serious? it was necessary to "bring down" American planes? which are of the "coalition" type? can immediately send "poplars" overseas?
      1. Vladimyrych
        Vladimyrych 11 December 2015 13: 22 New
        18
        According to the statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation and the guarantor personally, it is the Russian Federation that is the only legitimate foreign military force in the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic.
        And this is international law!
        Accordingly, any aggressive action on either side should be eliminated or minimized. Both against the contingent of the Russian Federation and against the government forces of the SAR.
        If we can’t, we have closed the havalnik and sit quietly and do not protrude.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2015 13: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir
          And this is international law!

          come on, what is the law, who wrote it? UN? who obeyed these laws? since the formation of the "League of Nations" already under a hundred wars have passed! for fools the law is not written, if it is written, it is not read, if it is not read, it is not understood, if it is not understood, but I see you are impatient to split the planet ...
          1. Vladimyrych
            Vladimyrych 11 December 2015 13: 44 New
            10
            So I didn’t say it, but the Foreign Ministry and the Guarantor. And you need to follow the bazaar. Or do not bazaar.
            1. Mama_Cholli
              Mama_Cholli 11 December 2015 14: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: Vladimir
              So I didn’t say it, but the Foreign Ministry and the Guarantor. And you need to follow the bazaar. Or do not bazaar.

              Vladimirich, well, you said in your first post!
              If Putin did according to yours, then we would not read your post and sit on the forum ...

              Brother got excited! It happens ... Sometimes I freeze it myself so that you read it later and you don’t recognize yourself how someone replaced it.

              )))
              1. Vladimyrych
                Vladimyrych 11 December 2015 14: 57 New
                +1
                Quote: Mama_Cholli
                Brother got excited!

                Firstly, I’m not your brother and you are me too.
                Secondly, I didn’t say anything of what I would consider it necessary to refuse.
                In the third, in fact, I practically quoted the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the media of the Russian Federation so that catching my tongue is futile.
                1. Mama_Cholli
                  Mama_Cholli 11 December 2015 18: 15 New
                  +3
                  Of course, you will excuse me, but I didn’t insert the post a little, I mean the one that was higher.
                  About the one where you expressed bewilderment and annoyance, why not a single coalition plane has been shot down yet.
                  Now I hope you understand my message to you?

                  pisi:
                  I didn’t poke you, I just turned to Brother for you - nonsense and absurdity. (I wanted to turn to a normal person.) So excuse me that you took my statement as disrespect to yourself, this was not.
                  I hope for your understanding.
            2. Bayonet
              Bayonet 11 December 2015 22: 52 New
              +4
              Quote: Vladimir
              And you need to follow the bazaar. Or do not bazaar.

              Isn't this a small place from the zone?
        2. Countermeasure
          Countermeasure 11 December 2015 13: 43 New
          +4
          When were our "partners" stopped by some international laws? Not in Yugoslavia, not in Libya, not in Iraq.
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      2. alicante11
        alicante11 11 December 2015 15: 29 New
        +8
        sir, are you serious? it was necessary to "bring down" American planes? which are of the "coalition" type? can immediately send "poplars" overseas?


        Excuse me, why did we even put C-400 there and, if you look more broadly, why did you even get in?
        I understand that while the Assadis are advancing, direct confrontation with the "coalition" is not beneficial to us. But you need to understand that if they set themselves the task of carrying out this confrontation, they will not stop. So, maybe it is better not to wait for the next "drying", but to crush the reptiles while they are bombing the Assadis?
    2. Countermeasure
      Countermeasure 11 December 2015 13: 39 New
      -5
      Have you respected at least a group of three people managed whenever you were? Only you know what to obsserat all without having a clue about management in principle.
    3. Countermeasure
      Countermeasure 11 December 2015 13: 39 New
      0
      Have you respected at least a group of three people managed whenever you were? Only you know what to obsserat all without having a clue about management in principle.
      1. 97110
        97110 11 December 2015 14: 35 New
        +5
        Quote: Countermeasure
        obsserat all without a clue about management in principle.

        Do you earn advantages? Calm down, watch how people write. Are you trying to "discuss" so that the moderator would not automatically cancel the word, or from great literacy? See what is being published after you. And delete unnecessary copies of creativity. Four in a row not very literate posts with insults and about anything - spare us, forced to read THIS.
    4. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 11 December 2015 13: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir
      The second bombing by NATO aviation of the SAR and the silence of the "super terrible S-400" as it is also not comme il faut
      - With our current "relics" every word is worth its weight in gold. They had just begun to deploy the army, and then such a scrape. So measure seven times, otherwise you will hurry ...
    5. Sashka
      Sashka 11 December 2015 14: 23 New
      +3
      Well, it’s direct for you today and held a GDP meeting with the board of Moscow ...

      Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the Defense Ministry on Friday said that any forces threatening the Russian military in Syria should be destroyed, ordering them to act extremely harshly.

      “I want to warn those who again try to organize any kind of provocation against our military personnel. We have already taken additional measures to ensure the security of Russian troops and the air base (in Syria). It is reinforced with new air links and air defense systems, ”Putin said.

      “All actions of strike aircraft are conducted under the guise of fighters. I order you to act extremely harshly. Any targets that threaten the Russian group or our ground infrastructure, subject to immediate destruction”, He emphasized, calling at the same time to develop cooperation with states that are interested in the elimination of terrorists. (c) http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/12/11/783284.html

      So, it looks like it did. They wanted to look at our reaction- THERE IS IT.
      Now the world is on the brink, as during the Cuban missile crisis. And if the West does not score, and he doesn’t score, so they think backwards and not with their heads, then we should expect provocations from the Turks, Germans, British, Americans ... They will again "beguiled" the CA, which is supported by our marines, they will bomb if they have time ... They will be grounded ... Well, then Donbass and Transnistria will explode there. Next is Karabakh ... In Uzbekistan, ISIS is already in a handful ... Here Georgia and Finland announced a violation of the borders by our VKS.
      Guys, events are developing rapidly. Very. If only I could celebrate the New Year at home, with my family, and not at the forefront. And there’s nowhere to go.
      Good day to all!
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 11 December 2015 22: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Sashka
        They will land ... Well, then Donbass and Transnistria will explode further. Following Karabakh ... In Uzbekistan, ISIS are already grouped ...

        All of the above, sooner or later, all the same would have exploded, regardless of whether Russia would have gotten into Syria or not.
        Only perhaps it would have been better organized and planned, and so, Russia's interference in the "process" at the current stage has led to some imbalance of forces and now requires adjustment of tasks and clarification of the plan, if not the development of a new version of it, taking into account the new combat opportunities. This time, and the time is now working for us.
  3. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 11 December 2015 12: 57 New
    0
    "Keep your friend close, and the enemy closer!"
    And after all, for sure, the special services have all the "data" for each small-town "driver"!
    Maybe the specialists are just waiting for the "fas" command? Maybe it's just that "time X" hasn't come yet? ))
    Although...
    "I would be glad to serve, it is sickening to serve!"
    1. WINovikov
      WINovikov 11 December 2015 13: 45 New
      11
      Specialists with manual drivers pull from one pocket. And time "X" and the command "FAS" will not be. There is no one to give the command.
  4. kostik1301
    kostik1301 11 December 2015 13: 00 New
    +2
    The whole article is to wash off the smell of gov ... on the GDP, which is saturated with all EdRo .......
    1. putnik
      putnik 13 December 2015 14: 03 New
      -1
      Well well!!! And this is a site where people who consider themselves adequate "hang out"? They piled so much on the author, but the discussion was never born! Where is the author wrong? That the local elites do not allow anything constructive to come and stand to their death for their privileges and the ability to steal? I am not very familiar with the Voronezh region, but I confirm 200 percent in the Volgograd region. And what about the hysteria about the allegedly deleted comments, and what in the speech of this businessman, who cannot connect two words, delighted you? That we imposed sanctions against ourselves and counter-sanctions themselves? Article plus. Thank you for reminding that there is also SF. I'll take a closer look.
      1. kostik1301
        kostik1301 16 December 2015 11: 21 New
        0
        Dear, I probably forgot and who created this VERTICAL POWER ..........
  5. Decathlon
    Decathlon 11 December 2015 13: 00 New
    12
    "... we get a guerrilla war ..."
    Moreover, the farther from Moscow, the "thicker" the partisans! Take, for example, the Sakhalin Khoroshavin ... repeat
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 11 December 2015 15: 52 New
      +5
      Come on, the partisans are thicker than in Moscow. They are just untouchable there. Like Serdyukov with Vasilyeva.
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 11 December 2015 18: 15 New
        +3
        Uh, no! wink There is the headquarters of the "partisan movement", the coordinating body, so to speak ... recourse
  6. KBR109
    KBR109 11 December 2015 13: 03 New
    12
    The twin is jamming. Everything to friends - the rest is the law.
    1. cniza
      cniza 11 December 2015 13: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: KBR109
      The twin is jamming. Everything to friends - the rest is the law.


      Unfortunately, this is so, but there is another side of the coin, if the "friend" starts to behave differently, he has a daddy and a chubby one.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 13 December 2015 20: 51 New
        0
        But this is not true. Remember, at least Sir Dyukov - after all, according to powerful concepts, he threw a family, and this is not forgiven. However, we see him alive, free, and in a very high and monetary position. Yes, and his girlfriend was not at work.
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  7. syndicalist
    syndicalist 11 December 2015 13: 03 New
    +3
    All of these EPs and ONFs are only pockets for the electorate. In reality, the whole domestic policy, the appointment of ministers and governors is engaged in one person - Slava Volodin
  8. Denis 60 rus
    Denis 60 rus 11 December 2015 13: 04 New
    19
    I’ll probably say bad ... but I'm for the NKVD. But only working on officials and ONLY, let the people control ordinary departments.
    1. Alekseir162
      Alekseir162 11 December 2015 13: 23 New
      +3
      but I am for the NKVD

      I put the plus clearly, but before your comment appeared, someone slapped the minus for sure, the enemies are inside.
      1. Sober
        Sober 11 December 2015 13: 45 New
        -8
        I do not agree, although I did not set a minus. God forbid, the revival of such a NKVD.
        1. samara-58
          samara-58 11 December 2015 14: 05 New
          +2
          Personally familiar ??? recourse
        2. 97110
          97110 11 December 2015 14: 51 New
          +3
          Quote: Sober
          God forbid, the revival of such a NKVD.
          Dear Alexander. Such statements should be based on something. What are you not comfortable with the NKVD? Are there personal accounts, are reliable rumors stored in family memory? Or have you heard that the deceased spouse of a cavalry lady badly let the NKVD go about this in her work? If vigilant neighbors knocked on your relative, this is one thing. If the term was rewound as an enemy, with arms in hand, he fought against the Soviet Government - another. I read ... - very bad. Just take your mind off the fact of Our President’s deepest respect for Mr. Solzhenitsyn, a Nobel laureate, and think about the future of the USSR during the existence of the NKVD, do not be this NKVD. Or do you absolutely dislike the elephant, and the concentration camp on about. Mudyug - is it quite democratic?
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 13 December 2015 15: 14 New
            +1
            Knocking neighbors are also dubious evil ...
            If neighbors insist that you bury the corpses in the garden, who are the bad ones? Are you or the neighbors?
        3. alicante11
          alicante11 11 December 2015 16: 01 New
          +4
          Why did the NKVD not please you? It's a cop - People’s Commissariat of Internal Affairs. By the way, the apparatus was quite effective. Again, the border guards were also under the NKVD. It was just that the NKVD included an analogue of the KGB, which stood out in the NKGB before the war.
          So you should not be afraid of the NKVD, but just the NKGB. Well, or, if you want a specific "office" of the GUGB NKVD.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2015 13: 35 New
      +8
      Quote: denis 60 rus
      I’ll probably say bad ... but I'm for the NKVD

      Yes, SMERSH is needed ...
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 11 December 2015 16: 06 New
        +5
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Yes, SMERSH is needed ...

        V. Solovyov in one recent program said that he needed SMERCH (official) laughing
  9. valokordin
    valokordin 11 December 2015 13: 05 New
    24
    The article did not notice who is against Putin. Everywhere and everywhere, everything is for and no one is against Putin. At the opening of the museum of the drunkard and the destroyer of the country, there was a whole company of traitors, destroyers, democrats, CIA agents, statesmen, and no one spoke out against our president, but I understand and sympathize with him. In his heart, of course, he would have killed many, but ...
    1. sober
      sober 11 December 2015 13: 11 New
      +3
      fully support
    2. fif21
      fif21 11 December 2015 13: 47 New
      20
      Quote: valokordin
      The article did not notice who is against Putin
      Position - Putin is always right, leads to sad thoughts. Even the sun has spots. The foreign policy of the Russian Federation is supported by the majority of the population, with the exception of Ukraine, the word is not a sparrow, you cannot catch it! Domestic politics irritates many, the standard of living of most people is falling, and the well-fed faces of officials and oligarchs do not add authority to the authorities. The government is openly lobbying for business interests, and the number of people below the poverty line is increasing. And the President is responsible for everything. And if the state "got into the pocket" of truckers, and they openly expressed their disagreement, then labeling them "enemies of Putin, the Russian Federation, and the people" is at least silly. With the intensification of the class struggle, criticism of Putin will only intensify and this should be taken calmly.
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    4. 34 region
      34 region 11 December 2015 14: 24 New
      +7
      No one is against Putin. Against his domestic policy. We do not understand her. If you run for the elections, Ulyukaev, Gref, Sechin, Miller ... will vote a lot for them? I doubt it. Seeing such a snake ball, people gritting their teeth will vote for the guarantor. The remaining candidates are a ticket to the morgue.
    5. 97110
      97110 11 December 2015 15: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: valokordin
      I’d dunk many, but ...

      they use exclusively WC. How to get in the toilet, then they have a lid. No, the basin. For soaking.
    6. alicante11
      alicante11 11 December 2015 16: 06 New
      +8
      In his heart, of course, he would have soaked many, but ...


      Bad opinions about GDP. This is a master, if he wanted to dunk, he would dunk. It's just that they are all one ointment of myrrh. They unitedly ruined the country, amicably stole the wealth, and now they are amicably trying to preserve the stolen goods.
  10. Aleksey888
    Aleksey888 11 December 2015 13: 05 New
    11
    EP must be dispersed. This is a feeding trough and no more.
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 11 December 2015 13: 23 New
      13
      Read what scum is in the Arkhangelsk region!
      02.10.2013, 19: 35
      Oleg Vorobyov, a deputy of the regional Assembly and a member of the Presidium of the Arkhangelsk Political Council of United Russia, a member of the governor's pool, almost killed, but permanently crippled an 8-year-old girl in an accident
      On the evening of September 15, on the M-8 federal highway, in the Bryn-Navolok area, Oleg Vorobyev, United Russia deputy from the Velsky district and the local parteigenoss, driving a Ford Mondeo car, first collided with a BMW X3 crossover on a tangent, and then in "Frontal" with Toyota Echo, which was an 8-year-old girl.
      The innocent child suffered the most - her hand was severed. The reason for the accident - Oleg Vorobyov left on the oncoming lane.
      The clash was scary. Only the crossover driver was lucky - although he flew into the ditch, he was not injured. For the rest, the consequences are terrible. Toyota driver: head injury, fracture of ribs, fracture of the pelvic bones. 37-year-old Toyota passenger: closed head injury, concussion and dislocation of the arm.
      In Toyota, an 8-year-old girl was traveling with adults. Now she is disabled - one arm is completely severed from her. Doctors of the Arkhangelsk Children's Clinical Hospital named after P.G. Vyzhlevtsova, despite all the professionalism, due to the strong crushing of tissues, could not save the severed arm. The condition of the girl is serious, but stable. She is conscious ...

      Medical assistance was also required for Oleg Vorobyov. He was diagnosed with a fracture of his right hand, a closed head injury, a concussion, a closed abdominal injury, and then what the brain refuses to believe in, which causes the fog to obscure his eyes and rise to a sizzling rage.

      As PS-Z learned from its own sources, Oleg Vorobyov, a United Russia deputy, went to the hospital in Arkhangelsk from the scene of the accident on the way. On the way, he meets an ambulance, which takes him to the clinic.

      Most likely, the ambulance was in a hurry just for this accident. There is nothing to reproach the doctors for - they fulfilled their duty, took the victim to the hospital. But at the time of the accident at the time, no less seriously injured people remained.

      We do not want to dramatize the situation and speculate on human grief, but it is not difficult to imagine what a severed arm is - huge blood loss, traumatic shock. With such injuries, a fatal outcome is not excluded. And the ambulance picks up deputy Vorobyov from half the way and takes him to the hospital ...

      in the end, later it turned out that he was also drunk !!
      1. STALK1974
        STALK1974 11 December 2015 13: 49 New
        +4
        These must be imprisoned for a long time and without the right to continue to hold public office!
        1. sisa29
          sisa29 11 December 2015 15: 22 New
          +2
          The criminal case against the person responsible for the acclaimed road accident, Deputy Vorobyov, was closed for reconciliation of the parties. This decision was made yesterday by the Kholmogorsky court. The press service of the regional SU SK said that during the interrogation, Vorobyev pleaded guilty as an accused. During the trial, the defense announced a motion to terminate the criminal prosecution, as they reconciled with the injured party and made amends for the harm.
          1. Shpagolom
            Shpagolom 11 December 2015 16: 32 New
            15
            .... well, where is the civil society that will arrange a protest and require a fair decision ...?
            .... tried on ... ironed out .... everything is OK, as it’s just everything for those in power ... with the slaves the boyars will quickly resolve issues!
      2. sherp2015
        sherp2015 11 December 2015 20: 48 New
        +3
        Quote: sisa29

        in the end, later it turned out that he was also drunk !!


        Here it is Edro, in all its glory. The Untouchables ...
  11. pts-m
    pts-m 11 December 2015 13: 06 New
    +7
    the more you learn, the less patriotism.
    1. Sober
      Sober 11 December 2015 13: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: PTS-m
      the more you learn, the less patriotism.

      Excuse me, what does patriotism depend on? If a mother is old and sick, do you love her less? If it’s hard for the Motherland, should it be (can) be betrayed?
      1. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 13 December 2015 12: 01 New
        +3
        homeland and state are different things (do not confuse please)
    2. Simon
      Simon 11 December 2015 14: 00 New
      -2
      Patriotism is needed, and therefore in Russia it is necessary to fight against the little crooks who sat down in the outskirts of our country in power. We have one Russia and all these bribe takers and grabbers ruin it. Putin alone will not do anything if we do not help him ourselves.
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 13 December 2015 13: 05 New
        0
        if we don’t help him ourselves. ,,
        can you tell me how to help it? refuse salary-pensions, ask to raise tariffs-prices? moreover, officials fatten at our expense.
  12. Riv
    Riv 11 December 2015 13: 07 New
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    Also me: found enemies for life ... :)
    The point is not what the party is called, but what the party does. EP now (SUDDENLY!) - The reincarnation of the CPSU in its last years. Mutual responsibility, irresponsibility and snickering faces.
    1. WINovikov
      WINovikov 11 December 2015 13: 50 New
      +8
      The worst thing is collective irresponsibility.
  13. sober
    sober 11 December 2015 13: 08 New
    -4
    someone I did not understand? Is this a call for rebellion ???
    or the cry of the soul !!! Sick ???
    1. Sober
      Sober 11 December 2015 13: 50 New
      -2
      Quote: sober
      someone I did not understand? Is this a call for rebellion ???
      or the cry of the soul !!! Sick ???

      I don’t get it either.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 11 December 2015 22: 43 New
      +4
      Quote: sober
      someone I did not understand? Is it a call for rebellion ??? or a cry from the soul !!! Sick ???

      What is there to understand?
      In 2016, the Duma elections, in which today the Duma majority belongs to Edru, and therefore, no law that worsens the situation of citizens can be blocked, even if the Communist Party, the Liberal Democratic Party and the Slovak Republic together oppose the adoption of such a law or a government decree.
      Do you want to retire at 65? Or what would your children, if you had no opportunity to pay for their education, not have the opportunity to get a profession that matches their capabilities and intellect? Or is there a desire in case of a serious illness in you or your loved ones to get only a pill of aspirin for a free prescription, and to pay the rest only by issuing a loan at the bank?
      I think that these prospects seem to you, like most in Russia, not very attractive.
      And therefore, we must go to the polls and vote for any party, except Edra. It would also be nice to bring this thought to relatives, friends, acquaintances.
      Maybe ignoring Edra from below will be the same shock for the elite as the victory of Marine Le Pen in France, when they finally understand that the country can be strong only with a rich and well-fed people, in which they see only a source for raising tax burden and budget replenishment.
  14. STALK1974
    STALK1974 11 December 2015 13: 14 New
    +4
    I completely agree with the author of the article. We have about the same. Moscow gives directions, but doesn’t pay attention to the places, at schools and D / C levies (for repairing toilets, for example) have been and are. But they are not sparing money on the Administration’s repair and the purchase of cars. But recently ONF stirred like that pleases.
  15. IAlex
    IAlex 11 December 2015 13: 15 New
    14
    The author wrote so much flooding, and everything is much more commonplace.

    Bulgakov has a good phrase: "If the stars are lit, then someone needs it." To light a star of this magnitude in a time of competitive lawlessness, many different resources are needed, and those who lived in the 90s perfectly understand where they came from, in the environment in which the GDP was spinning. And since according to Lomonosov's law: "Loot does not come from anywhere and does not go anywhere, it only flows from one pocket to another," it is obvious that the occupation of such a place does not imply altruism.

    The issue is not what GDP can or cannot. The question is, who does he work for, and the last scandals with the private office of Rottenberg, Serdyukov and the Central Bank’s sabotage with greetings to the bear, clearly not even trying to do it quietly, and they are called upon to show the whole country who the owner is in the house and by what rules shear sheep regardless of crises ...

    And the GDP should be careful in its demonstrations, if for the most part the people agree with their foreign policy - this does not mean that they should also agree with the internal one. And in case of the absence of grass for the third knocking, the housekeeper's rams can run into the incendiary speeches of overseas shepherds, they can run over and trample one of the owners, as it has already happened more than once in the history of the Russian Federation, and they will not be helped by any Rottenbergs, with Serdyukovs and bears ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2015 13: 38 New
      +8
      Quote: IAlex
      And the GDP should be careful in its demonstrations, if for the most part the people agree with their foreign policy - this does not mean that they should also agree with the internal one.

      GDP is so liberal in domestic politics that I wonder why liberals scold it? request
      1. IAlex
        IAlex 11 December 2015 13: 57 New
        +4
        Come on. In my opinion, you are not aware of the very meaning of the word liberalism (I do not mean external liberalisms correctly called liberals in the Russian Federation).

        At the moment, we in the Russian Federation have in the form of power - a kleptocratic apparatus in its last stage. This is the case when crime penetrates power, and the state merges with business turning into an oligarchic dictatorship with anarchism below the chain of oligarchs-officials-law enforcement forces (suppression) and penetrates into all spheres of public life in order to achieve their goals.

        Over time, such a klepotocratic system sucks all the juices from the state at the last stage as a cancerous tumor and kills the state.

        And your beloved liberalism - being a moderately positive phenomenon, it has turned into one of the monstrous tools that the government uses and helps to merge the state apparatus and thieves, so the GDP does not interfere in any way, but rather helps them. Therefore, no one in the Russian Federation touches the liberals from the authorities and the oligarchs, but they set the dogs on foreign liberalists, who simply hanged a label that was actively used by local bandits in the 90s ...
        1. IAlex
          IAlex 11 December 2015 14: 17 New
          +4
          I forgot to write why the kleptocratic state is dying.

          A normal organism, like a state, lives off of what it produces. Thieves and bandits live off parasites, and when they fall into power, it is reborn, for the society is instilled with theft, so that there is no rejection of it. Thus, from a society of creators, it becomes a society of consumption of available resources. After which it sucks out the unevenly distributed resources of them all that it can reach, and after they end it dies ...
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    2. water
      water 11 December 2015 13: 42 New
      +5
      The phrase is not for Bulgakov - it is a sitih for Mayakovsky. And Lomonosov has nothing to do with it either. And in all other respects, we cannot but agree with you!
      1. IAlex
        IAlex 11 December 2015 14: 02 New
        0
        Lomonosov has to do with it, for it is a rephrased law of conservation of energy, or matter.
        And about the stars, this is one of the converted phrases from The Master and Margarita, in the conversation of Pontius Pilate ...
  16. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 December 2015 13: 16 New
    +4
    Ho-ho.

    Nomenclature "party"even if their names contain the word"Russia", they end up the same. All claimed power.

    Is it appropriate to remind ?:
    - The democratic choice of Russia (combined with the PCA);
    - Our house "Russia" (liquidated);
    - United Russia (for the time being; but I don’t think for a long time). laughing
  17. sever.56
    sever.56 11 December 2015 13: 19 New
    11
    We, in Murmansk, had such a mess under the governor Evdokimov that "Mama - don't cry." The fish industry was lowered below the plinth, the price of fish was raised by the traders so that it is hard to believe. But from each outlet they broadcast about what kind of smart governor we have. On the local TV they showed how; His Excellency "will deign to rest on a salmon fishing trip, where he was taken by helicopter. In Scandinavia, he was larger than in Russia." Ones "went" to exchange experience "while Murmansk was being destroyed, prices for housing and communal services, heat, electricity, grew at a cosmic pace. Apparently, the dissatisfaction of the townspeople reached the very top, and he slowly "retired". Now he is safely director of the cinema concern in St. Petersburg.
    They sent a new "governor" during the reign of LADIES. By a strange coincidence, it turned out that he was married to the cousin of the one who appointed him. A coincidence, you know ... After several bleak years of "prosperous" government of the region, he just quietly left, descending to the sinful land on a "golden parachute" the size of several football fields.
    A local citizen was appointed governor, widely known since the days of violent Komsomol activities. Four years, in my opinion, has already been "ruling". Do you think something has changed? Fuck there !!!
    All the same trips to Scandinavia, promises of imminent prosperity, and endless PR from all outlets. All media are controlled by her, you won't hear bad words. In ONF - only the creature of the "respected" Marina Vasilievna. The swamp is such that it is scary to imagine. That is how we live. But the reports upstairs in the style: - "Everything is fine, beautiful marquise" ... !!!
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 11 December 2015 14: 58 New
      +6
      As the Koloboks said - Similarly! After the arrest of Khoroshavin, many goals flew and self-destructed. New Guber from EP and his team from Am. area drags. He promoted the election company in full, he climbed the roofs. Maybe PR, or maybe not ... Wait and see.
  18. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 11 December 2015 13: 19 New
    +5
    "EP" does not throw its.

    What can you say, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. It would be better in the eye of an official, but unless you get to him. Sitting here are all smooth with a Party crust covered, the right words speak with the same facial expression, but inside there is rot and disgusting thoughts: "... how not to deprive yourself of your beloved."
  19. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 11 December 2015 13: 19 New
    +1
    The novel, as for our mayor Golkov, to be precise, the amount there is 320 rubles, but that’s not the point, it doesn’t change the meaning, but all the hype is due to the carefully retouched national issue - which is gaining more urgency lately, the nationalist people don’t like it is a titular nation .. And he himself is a decent person who does not allow small town princes to get into the city budget, about which you wrote well .. And not finding compromising material on him, they try, with the support of Khural (surprisingly mono-national), to not sweep so much by washing. .
  20. shultc
    shultc 11 December 2015 13: 20 New
    +8
    In the last elections in our region in the region. Council of Deputies ran from all parties: two convicted persons (LDPR and KPRF), a bunch of unemployed (I consider ordinary loafers) (LDPR, KPRF, Yabloko, self-nominated candidates), students (the same + EdRo). And only from "United Russia" are people really exposed by the authorities and with the appropriate education. And who do you want to vote for? I understand that the family is not without its black sheep, but to choose between idlers, striving for the power trough, and already sucked, it's like two evils ...
  21. xorgi
    xorgi 11 December 2015 13: 20 New
    +2
    Thank you for the article. Very realistic and intelligible.
  22. Genur
    Genur 11 December 2015 13: 21 New
    +5
    Quote: Mihalich17
    "To serve would be glad, to be sick nauseously! "
    It is enough to look at the "pianists" - the Dumas. Continuous "assent. It seems that there is no one to think.
    1. WINovikov
      WINovikov 11 December 2015 13: 58 New
      +5
      And when should they think? There is no time to read the proposed law. And to read it on a fig? Let the horse think - she has a big head.
  23. DMB3000
    DMB3000 11 December 2015 13: 22 New
    -5
    I just realized today. that the endings of the surnames Lenin Stalin Putin are the same)))
  24. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 11 December 2015 13: 25 New
    +7
    Old m / f "Vovka in the Far-away Kingdom". There the characters were: "two from the casket, the same from the face." Why not mayor and governor? It's sad from all this.
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 11 December 2015 14: 22 New
      +9
      They don’t know a damn thing, but they grab onto everything.
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 11 December 2015 17: 15 New
        +1
        So what are you going to eat for me ?!
        1. Koshak
          Koshak 11 December 2015 17: 40 New
          +1
          So what are you going to eat for me ?!

          Yeah !! in two sips laughing
  25. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 11 December 2015 13: 25 New
    17
    There are a lot of questions to Putin. What is a Happy New Year DECEMBER 10 award ceremony. But this, by the way. It would be good for him to communicate with the people, and not in the style of slogans and Gorbachev’s dada, dada. In the field of foreign policy, Russia's biggest defeat is the transformation of the once, albeit insincerely friendly, but keeping itself within the decent framework of the state of Ukraine into a US colony and a dagger, attached to Russia, that America operates there like a fox in a chicken coop. What did our intelligence services not tell him about the rampant forces reformatting the consciousness of Ukrainians on Russophobic principles? I am sure that he was informed about this. So why was Ukraine appointed Ambassador Zurabov, who before that had failed everything he could at the ministerial post. Even during the Maidan why he did not force Yanukovych to invite our troops to Ukraine. But the junta came to power, and it was from this that everything that happened later came out, and the Crimea, and the Donbass, and up to the refusal to pay the debt. Our experts lucidly explained why in court our country will not receive anything from Kiev. In general, this mistake cost the people of Russia dearly. But he does not want to speak with the people, he did not even dismiss Zurabov.
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 11 December 2015 13: 35 New
      +7
      Then we were silenced with Crimea, and no one noticed the loss of an entire friendly state behind the euphoria about the acquisition
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 11 December 2015 16: 16 New
        +1
        Then we were silenced with Crimea, and no one noticed the loss of an entire friendly state behind the euphoria about the acquisition


        Figase was "gagged". Such a "plug" would be plugged every time, so the USSR would have already recovered, or even RI. Where did you see "friendly Ukraine"? From the very beginning, while something is needed from us - brothers, as soon as they have received and have not yet digested - svidomye. These under-states on the basis of the union republics cannot be friendly to Russia at all, because the point then was to LEAVE the USSR? Even But Father, although he is torn at every corner about the union and created a union state with Russia, he does not want to really integrate and just looks askance at the West. Although already for him, "the last dictator of Europe," there is clearly only a rope shining ... without soap.
      2. asher
        asher 13 December 2015 10: 23 New
        0
        with such a friendly state - hostile and not necessary!
  26. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 11 December 2015 13: 26 New
    0
    I would like to warn lovers of change. Horses do not change at the crossing! It’s good when we know people who are trying to pull a blanket of power on themselves. They can always be stopped. It’s bad when the powerless get to power (as they consider themselves). Then they will again tear and plunder Russia to the limit. How much can you step on the same rake ?! Take China as an example. There, as the rules of the CPSU, it rules. But economic success is on the face. And we are all looking for good parties, worthy, to get closer to the people. Yes there are no such parties and will not be. For centuries, there have been, are and will be internal contradictions in Russia. The country is like that. If everyone did their job well and honestly, then the country would live well. Anyone here knows how to manage the state, they don’t only know how not to steal from the state treasury ... And you can apply a line from I. Krylov’s fable to our parties: but you, friends, don’t get into musicians! The only thing the country rests on is Putin, Shoigu, Rogozin and their real companions. Which, unfortunately, are very few.
    1. samara-58
      samara-58 11 December 2015 14: 13 New
      -4
      Very happy with such a comment !!! There are sober-there !!! good
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 11 December 2015 16: 22 New
      +9
      Horses do not change at the crossing!


      And after the crossing, will they give us a change? No, I am not calling to overthrow the GDP or to disperse the EP. Well, there will be no GDP, there will be another protege of the oligarchs. But not such a master of political intrigue who will really drain both the oligarchs and us to the West in the shortest possible time. There will be no EP, the bureaucrats will run to some sort of "Two Russia". Here, after all, it is not the name that matters, and not the personality, but what political and economic system the elite determines the country. The oligarchic elite defines the country as oligarchic monopoly capitalism. Therefore, nothing better can be expected. No matter how much you change the figures on the "political Olympus".
  27. Luga
    Luga 11 December 2015 13: 33 New
    +3
    From the moment of his election, Putin has been building a "vertical of power", heaping up the scattered regions, subduing the governors, placing his own. We have what we have. United Russia is an instrument of central government control over the regions. The entry of officials, businessmen and other "elite" into this party is a way of putting pressure on them. If you do badly, we will exclude and deprive everything "acquired by back-breaking labor", everything is simple. But there is no sensible mechanism of control over the party in power, and even theoretically there cannot be, the ONF as an attempt to create such a mechanism can be welcomed, but in fact this venture, in my opinion, failed. For an attempt - offset, according to the results - well, frankly, not really. And in this case, we have to choose: either a firm central government with inevitable abuses and excesses in the localities, or some in the forest, some for firewood both at the top and at the local level. At the present time, the former is clearly preferable for us, in my opinion.
  28. shpriz77
    shpriz77 11 December 2015 13: 38 New
    +7
    I put the article plus, in general I agree. I live in the region adjacent to the Voronezh region, more precisely in Lipetsk. I’m ready to confirm the words of the author, from the moment Gordeev came to the post of governor, at least the city of Voronezh has changed for the better, and I myself often visit a lot of comrades, confirm. I can’t say anything for the region. I do not want to discuss GDP. I believe the siloviki have all the information on EP, but the author has definitely noticed that the regionals under the governors and I think are ineffective. For my area I’ll say one thing, drive the entire top up with a filthy broom, with confiscation, and into zones. And in conclusion: let's share our opinion about our regions, I think there will be site participants from all subjects of the federation.
  29. aleks. 1986
    aleks. 1986 11 December 2015 13: 40 New
    +4
    It's funny to read that Putin was completely on the drum about "Duma jokes", or even more so he did not know. He knew everything, they were building a tough vertical of power. Do not write nonsense.
  30. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 11 December 2015 13: 43 New
    +1
    "ER" was not just a party of power, but a party that controls almost everything in Russia through governors.

    In theory, it should be so. The question is the number of powers of each governor.
  31. press officer
    press officer 11 December 2015 13: 44 New
    +1
    Simply because the Voronezh region is rather an exception to the rule. The governor was SENT. In most of the regions of Russia, as the local "United Russia members" were sitting, and they are sitting. Regardless. And they sit not just, but like appanage princes.

    Perm region. Mentioned above. They also sent us. And bad. negative Before that, there was a "peacemaker" who began to derail the region so well and invite the Varangians to launder money, that now, the new one still has a bit to steal and that's it. It will be possible to close us as a region (1 million inhabitants for a minute). Literally. We have already become practically a "big village"! crying About us it’s already very rare NOT to speak on the central news .. and all the time is bad ... sad And only the new owner from the Varangians, having taken the local channel for himself, tells us in the news which wonderful governor we have .. and we now have only good news and are repeated for weeks .... negative look disgusting! our guber is in second place from the end of the list ... and they close everything in the region and the city, everything that they can close. negative Because the current governor brought with him a company of Varangians who didn’t take root very well and put money in the pocket of a campaign .. The last achievement of our region is the money for the journey of 17 billion (!!!!) lost ... request AND! it’s just that the administration went on a riot during an inspection from Moscow! negative About what VVP spoke to our governor during the meeting ... from the look of VVP it was clear that before that he beat "our" with something heavy ... and only stopped at the sight of the cameras .. yes
    P.S. And not one of our governors, starting with the local ones (which was much better than all these appointees), did not belong to any party. We have WITHOUT PARTY! So everything depends rather not on the party, but on the appointee. And we all wait when we have a local governor ... it will be better .. than now, that's for sure. yes
    1. fif21
      fif21 11 December 2015 14: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: press attache
      P.S. And not one of our governors, starting with the local ones (which was much better than all these appointees), did not belong to any party.

      Remember Trutnev and Chirkunov! And the Perm Territory is in 10th place among the territories paying the federal budget more money than it spends (donor)
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  32. Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 11 December 2015 13: 45 New
    +1
    Roman, thanks for the article, I just wrote recently, enough about the President, he is in Honor, let's write about guberas, vice-gubers and other riffraffers, help ONF. I saw on TV about the Buryat governor, such everywhere, and even smaller princes are the most dangerous, they are in the shade, they are not called to Moscow, but they drag fish like a cat. We have a director of one FSBI, an aunt, a prince (Rosselkhoznadzor) called a mechanic and so, blowing my lips said I want a new official car, I want Honda, although there are already 5 cars in the fleet. Bought a couple of million from the budget flew away. That's what you need to write about, scumbags. I imagined how many local bureaucrats cover it, how much money goes through such FSBIs, KGKUs, etc.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 11 December 2015 14: 06 New
      0
      That's what you need to write about, scumbags. I imagined how many local bureaucrats cover it, how much money goes through such ...


      Do you think there is a place to publish it? Or a photo when an ambulance is waiting for his "Excellency" to drive down Krasnoarmeyskaya Street to his place of work (because he has difficulty walking ... Here is our Veche - the Internet, and the reaction, even to obvious facts, may be as follows:

      “This is an extremely demanded thing, meaning the cleansing of our economy, and our social life, of everything that hinders us. When I talk about the economy, I mean, of course, the fight against corruption, which suppresses any economic activity. We still have a lot to do in this direction and improve the investment climate. Without the fight against corruption, this is also impossible, when everyone gives back to their own people, nothing good in terms of efficiency is ever achieved, "Putin said.

      Source: http://ren.tv/novosti/2015-11-27/putin-pohvalil-rabotu-onf-po-borbe-s-korrupciey
      © REN.TV
  33. yumis1
    yumis1 11 December 2015 13: 53 New
    -6
    Quote: DMB3000
    I just realized today. that the endings of the surnames Lenin Stalin Putin are the same)))

    Of these, only the last name. The first two "rattles". I apologize for Fenya.
    1. samara-58
      samara-58 11 December 2015 14: 17 New
      +1
      Lesson, with these "rattles" people went to death !!! I'm not sorry for Fenya!
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 11 December 2015 15: 24 New
        +5
        ". Utyrok, with these" rattles "people went to death !!!
        -------------------------------------------------
        That's exactly what this article about behavior on the site was a bit higher. On the culture of communication.
  34. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 11 December 2015 13: 59 New
    0
    However, there was a complete bad luck, and the process went. Gordeev was a really good business manager. And most of them are happy with it. 89% in the 2014 election is indicative. Real 89%.

    Maybe GDP should be asked from such successful business executives, whom they see in the same role, and put them in the lagging provinces? Maybe this is one of the keys to success?
  35. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 11 December 2015 14: 03 New
    +9
    Today I listened to a broadcast on the radio. In the course of the program, the presenter became interested in how many percent of the population of Russia owned / are owned by its wealth. It turned out that 1% of the population of Russia owns - 70% of its wealth. At the same time, to find out how much remains for the remaining 99% of the population of Russia from the remaining 30%, it is necessary to subtract state property, which apparently still makes up a very considerable Piece and which is also planned to be "divided fraternally" in the near future.

    To be honest, I don’t like such a cut of the pie - Russia.
    Still, privatization and the people who carried it out did for the Russian people more than all the other enemies of Russia.

    pisi:
    So who should Putin V.V. speak with the owners of Russia or its population?
    Well, or put in question the title of the article ...
  36. urapatriot
    urapatriot 11 December 2015 14: 04 New
    +9
    Quote: MATROSKIN-53
    I would like to warn lovers of change. Horses do not change at the crossing! It’s good when we know people who are trying to pull a blanket of power on themselves. They can always be stopped. It’s bad when the powerless get to power (as they consider themselves). Then they will again tear and plunder Russia to the limit. How much can you step on the same rake ?! Take China as an example. There, as the rules of the CPSU, it rules. But economic success is on the face. And we are all looking for good parties, worthy, to get closer to the people. Yes there are no such parties and will not be. For centuries, there have been, are and will be internal contradictions in Russia. The country is like that. If everyone did their job well and honestly, then the country would live well. Anyone here knows how to manage the state, they don’t only know how not to steal from the state treasury ... And you can apply a line from I. Krylov’s fable to our parties: but you, friends, don’t get into musicians! The only thing the country rests on is Putin, Shoigu, Rogozin and their real companions. Which, unfortunately, are very few.

    The only thing the country rests on is the patience of the Russian people and the legacy of the "accursed scoop."
  37. individual
    individual 11 December 2015 14: 06 New
    -1
    And what did you expect that from the dashing 90s to the 21st century we will go on the move without the vestiges of tails ...
    A revolution in this matter is not permissible.
    This we see in Ukraine as an example.
    Of course I want everything at once, but it doesn’t.
    Of course, after Kozyrev’s foreign policy, it’s better, but not all at once.
  38. Oprychnik
    Oprychnik 11 December 2015 14: 06 New
    0
    Roman, I must tell you that the light bulb burns only where it is powered. What is this Gusev to you? There are no good ideas. There are tools for their implementation. Here Gulevsky jumped off (jumped off) the train. I wonder what the "nightingale" will sing about and what the "eagle" will say ...
    1. shpriz77
      shpriz77 11 December 2015 14: 25 New
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      And it’s very disappointing, because his place is on the wall with green on his forehead.
  39. Million
    Million 11 December 2015 14: 08 New
    +3
    And then the real war began.

    When will they work then they will start at least a little for the good of Russia, and not fight ???
  40. iouris
    iouris 11 December 2015 14: 09 New
    +1
    I remember that Gryzlov made a statement, the meaning of which boils down to the fact that the power is leaving the TV screens, and some "talking heads" will represent it. See Gryzlov after that really disappeared from sight.
    I think this approach is sound. The party is a machine for gaining power. Power is dominance in the relations of distribution and production. Big money loves dead silence, so the core of the party should be hidden from prying eyes whenever possible.
    The entry of the Russian Federation into the WTO means the victory of the export-raw materials complex, compradors tied to transnational structures.
    According to the principle of separation of powers, municipal power is not state power; they cannot be confused. The mayor is independent of the governor. It is noteworthy that the offices of American religious sects, which, in fact, are engaged in the recruitment of agents of influence, bribery and intelligence, have grown into provincial cities.
  41. pl675
    pl675 11 December 2015 14: 19 New
    +5
    Who in Russia against Putin?
    - I am. write it down.
    for me it ended in about 08th year.
    further - delirium and clowning.
    minus, gentlemen.
    1. unsinkable
      unsinkable 11 December 2015 18: 19 New
      0
      Quote: pl675
      minus, gentlemen.

      Whoever is against Putin is against me. I’m not an urya-patriot. Having analyzed and consciously made a choice.
      1. vgorlekost
        vgorlekost 11 December 2015 19: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: unsinkable

        Whoever is against Putin is against me. I’m not an urya-patriot. Having analyzed and consciously made a choice.

        Judging by your comments and nicknames, crumbs from the master's table pass to you.
        Minus one.
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  43. IAlex
    IAlex 11 December 2015 14: 21 New
    +3
    Quote: IAlex
    Come on. In my opinion, you are not aware of the very meaning of the word liberalism (I do not mean external liberalisms correctly called liberals in the Russian Federation).

    At the moment, we in the Russian Federation have in the form of power - a kleptocratic apparatus in its last stage. This is the case when crime penetrates power, and the state merges with business turning into an oligarchic dictatorship with anarchism below the chain of oligarchs-officials-law enforcement forces (suppression) and penetrates into all spheres of public life in order to achieve their goals.

    Over time, such a klepotocratic system sucks all the juices from the state at the last stage as a cancerous tumor and kills the state.

    And your beloved liberalism - being a moderately positive phenomenon, it has turned into one of the monstrous tools that the government uses and helps to merge the state apparatus and thieves, so the GDP does not interfere in any way, but rather helps them. Therefore, no one in the Russian Federation touches the liberals from the authorities and the oligarchs, but they set the dogs on foreign liberalists, who simply hanged a label that was actively used by local bandits in the 90s ...


    I forgot to write why the kleptocratic state is dying.

    A normal organism, like a state, lives off of what it produces. Thieves and bandits live off parasites, and when they fall into power, it is reborn, for the society is instilled with theft, so that there is no rejection of it. Thus, from a society of creators, it becomes a society of consumption of available resources, and all those whom the system could not infect, become in society white crows rejected by the established system. After which the state sucks out the unevenly distributed resources, they can reach everything (for the thieves apparatus, by definition, cannot create competitive products, and if it could not be thieves), and after they die it dies ...
  44. yuriy55
    yuriy55 11 December 2015 14: 22 New
    +1
    The title-question is not posed correctly:
    Who in Russia against Putin?

    Is it possible to solve the question by heading an article in this aspect? Can a person be called a Russian if he is against a legally elected president?
    Another thing: The fate and future of which Russians are closer to Vladimir Vladimirovich?

    Life dictates its own rules (or does someone establish it ???) about the need to keep an alignment with the Russians, "who did not justify their trust, confused the state pocket with their own, ..." and "happiness" is coming to you ... in the Alps, in your own hotel complex or will you be in old age as director of the fleet of the state corporation "Rostec" ...
    wink
  45. Signaller
    Signaller 11 December 2015 14: 23 New
    +4
    I have a vision that great shocks await us. Recent articles about the government assaults say they will carry him soon. I personally consider Putin a worthy figure, but his inconsistency and flirting with the business elite has gone very far. It's time to be determined.
  46. guzik007
    guzik007 11 December 2015 14: 24 New
    +2
    Right now A.Romanov will come and give everyone to you ..... You will know how to find fault with the power, the frontiers are rascals: =)
  47. Nix1986
    Nix1986 11 December 2015 14: 25 New
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    I have been a reader of this site for a long time, for 5 years that's for sure. Rarely do you really want to write something in the comments, but you just can't help it. Everything became clear to me at the last press conference of the GDP in December 14, right after the well-known events. Of course, even before this press conference, there were very few hopes and faith, the veil from the eyes from oil for $ 100 quickly subsided even then, but still some ray of faith was preserved (after all, after the EBN drunk). And this clown conference buried everything. What did I expect from this press conference ?! Probably the same as the entire conscious population. I didn’t need any apologies to the people for the policy of the Central Bank, for the fact that all the money from oil for $ 100 was either stolen or collected in a pile, but in the real sector the collapse continued and not a single step was taken to diversify the economy. This is all the past and nothing can be changed. And since the thunder has already struck and the question has become an edge, then I was waiting for an answer to the traditional Russian question "What is to be done?" I was waiting for some concrete steps towards diversifying the economy, soft loans for high-tech industries, reducing administrative costs, etc. And I heard that “Oil used to cost 70 $ at 35 rubles, and now 50 $ even at 65 rubles”, in general I was considered an idiot, since I can get on with such crap. Many will ask me "What did you do for the state so that it reciprocates to you ?!", I will answer "I do everything that is required of a conscientious citizen, there is a small company, I pay taxes honestly, I provide people with jobs, God knows I did not steal a penny and did not take a rollback, all sorts of bureaucrats milk only me. " Only now I don't want to pay taxes, not because I'm greedy, but because I don't want to feed the parasites of the Serdyukovs, Medvedevs, Rottenbergs, etc. if it were possible to transfer money as targeted financing to which thread of the account of the orphanage instead of taxes, I would have done so long ago. About a year ago I was at the forum of pediatric oncology, the figure sounded that the quotas for the provision of high-tech care to sick children are not enough for 850-1200 people per year, so that it was more than enough to cover it, it was necessary to build 2 more centers, with a total cost of 30 billion rubles. Such a request was sent to the presidential administration, the answer was, as always, no extra money. And a month later, from somewhere, suddenly there were many times a lot of money for a bridge to the Crimea of ​​Rottenberg. Very disgustingly honest. If the countries are slaughtered for the future, the diagnosis has already been made to the government. And as someone here wrote correctly, the worst thing is that we have no alternative to it, or there is something even worse.
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 11 December 2015 15: 16 New
      +5
      I absolutely agree with you. Yes, I read about the situation with your work and looked in the mirror
    2. Oprychnik
      Oprychnik 11 December 2015 20: 05 New
      0
      Nix1986, you don’t get excited like that. We will not particularly affect anything here. If only indirectly. Take it easy and wait for the banquet to continue. He is approaching swing. )))
      1. Nix1986
        Nix1986 12 December 2015 00: 11 New
        +2
        There will be no heat. There are no conditions for this, neither inside nor outside. Inside, we do not have any strong opposition, as is customary in a developed country, there is no alternative political force that is ready to offer its own solution to the current situation, has many supporters and good resources. We have an overwhelming monopolist edro and all sorts of political corpses such as the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party. Outside, no one needs any upheaval within our country, just as we are a nuclear power and it is not clear what kind of incident could happen, it is much better to have a controlled slow decomposition, which now exists. So everything will remain so.
  48. GraveBezKresta
    GraveBezKresta 11 December 2015 14: 26 New
    10
    Did you notice that Putin often began to appear confused? Piled on the country is robust. Putin’s team is 90% oligarchic. No war can be won against her. So, either Putin will clean them, or Putin will be cleaned with them. If Putin makes a choice and cleans the oligarchy, he will become the savior of the nation; if not, someone else will do it. In conditions of external aggression of this magnitude, no one will be able to sit on two chairs at once.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 11 December 2015 18: 53 New
      -3
      Not bewildered, but very serious today. We don’t know all the vectors affecting the country, but it has a more realistic picture. On the contrary, a few years ago Putin and the government were stepping into an alliance with the West. Now they are on the right track, otherwise these bourgeois cattle will genocide and tear us apart.
    2. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 11 December 2015 18: 53 New
      -2
      Not bewildered, but very serious today. We don’t know all the vectors affecting the country, but it has a more realistic picture. On the contrary, a few years ago Putin and the government were stepping into an alliance with the West. Now they are on the right track, otherwise these bourgeois cattle will genocide and tear us apart.
  49. lehalk
    lehalk 11 December 2015 14: 38 New
    -2
    Regarding the article-What is called a fight you will not throw. Each director is his own. By the way, the smaller the bump, the more

    she gets up!
  50. avva2012
    avva2012 11 December 2015 14: 58 New
    13
    When Crimea was incorporated into the Russian Federation, I was happy. But not because the peninsula is finally OURS. It became clear that we had no more "friends" in the West. To the President, no one will forgive this. And, he began to wait, and when? When they begin to restore order in the country, lay off officials, change the style of power. I've been waiting for two years. Moreover, the majority of the population understands that if there are no radical changes, then that's it, the end. The system is so stabilized, it works so well (for itself) that inside itself, no changes can be expected. And, if you look, then the President is not a mumble, and there are serious personalities around him, but, for some reason, "a swing for a ruble, a blow for a penny." Khoroshavin alone suffered, poor man. And I really want to imagine that officials were simply fattened up like pigs, accumulating funds for their return during the crisis period. Otherwise, in 2016, the white fluffy, northern beast will come.