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The deflection of the IMF does not cancel the default of Ukraine

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So, December 8 at the next meeting of the IMF Board, it was decided to change the charter of the fund, which allows lending to troubled countries even after they declare a default.


Most commentators and experts associate this action with Ukraine and consider this move to be an incentive for the Kiev regime to refuse to pay 3 billions of dollars of debt, which is due on December 20. At first glance, this is exactly the case, but there are a number of nuances that make one doubt it.

First, talk about such a change in the IMF charter has been going on for several years, and began even when Moscow did not have any Kiev debt.

Secondly, this amendment to the charter expands the boundaries of the fund’s capabilities, rather than increases its responsibilities. That is, the IMF "may", but not "obliged." Otherwise, such a change could be used by any problem countries, starting with Greece and ending with Portugal and Argentina.

Thirdly, since the fund “can”, but is not “obliged”, this does not mean that after the declaration of default of Ukraine, he will continue to lend it. Moreover, in recent months, he is clearly in no hurry to do this even without a default.

The main questions that I constantly ask skeptics who believe that the IMF is playing against Russia:

What prevented the IMF from crediting the Kiev regime for three billion so far? Moreover, the IMF has already violated the previously established schedule for providing trenches to Kiev, and then, under various pretexts, transferred the next tranche several times (and, as it was said recently, “this year Ukraine will not receive anything from the IMF”). As we see, the IMF is not eager to give money to the Kiev regime.
What prevented the IMF from acting as a guarantor of the return of Ukrainian debt to 3 billion, as suggested by Vladimir Putin? The IMF also did not want to do this.

I certainly admit that such a change in the IMF charter among its goals may also contain an attempt to pressure Russia to restructure debt. But this attempt is not at all convincing and, according to Russian officials already voiced by statements, did not bring any results - since no one went to restructuring Russian conditions, Russia will not accept other conditions.

Moreover, neither the fact of amending the IMF charter, nor the potential opportunity for the Kiev regime to receive loans after a default does not cancel the fact of default, which will occur ten days after December 20, Kiev refuses to pay its bills.

As one of the options, the Russian government can obtain a court decision, according to which any receipts of finances to the accounts of the Kiev regime will be arrested and transferred directly to the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation to repay the loan. International practice, among other methods of debt collection, provides for such an option. So even if the IMF decides to lend to the Kiev regime after the default, this money can go not to Kiev, but immediately to Moscow. Or, as another option to London, to insurance companies that guaranteed this issue of Eurobonds.

If the abstract “West” decides to consistently destroy its own judicial and financial systems built over the centuries for the sake of momentary support for the unviable Kiev regime, I personally will not pay.

This will not save the regime, and for discrediting and the collapse of several institutions of the world imperialist system, three billion dollars is not too much of a price. Especially since, as Bismarck used to say, “Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper they are written on. Therefore, it is worth playing with Russians either playing honestly or not playing at all. ”
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 11 December 2015 08: 37 New
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    Insanity grows stronger in the IMF.
    Argentina, Greece, Cyprus and other countries can now follow the path of UKRAINE ... a precedent has been set.

    Another PANDORA box has been opened .... now you can not pay debts and present your conditions to creditors ... idiotic situation.
    1. Patriot 1
      Patriot 1 11 December 2015 08: 59 New
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      Quote: The same Lech


      Another PANDORA box has been opened .... now you can not pay debts and present your conditions to creditors ... idiotic situation.


      One of the versions that has already been voiced at VO - by this, the USA is preparing a departure: not to pay debts. And their duty .... all countries put together "rest" ....
      1. KOH
        KOH 11 December 2015 11: 44 New
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        And if China sits on a betrayal, and begins to turn the headstock ...?)))))))
      2. ramzes1776
        ramzes1776 11 December 2015 12: 36 New
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        But insurers shouldn’t pay by chance if the debtor doesn’t pay the debt or bankrupt the country in all accounts? The organization is serious. Or maybe Russia should not sue, but an insurance campaign? I wonder what is written in the contract?
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    10. Now we are free
      Now we are free 11 December 2015 09: 05 New
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      Repost from 09.12.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX

      Firstly- DEFAULT THIS EVERYTHING WILL NOT CANCELED EVERYTHING so that Peremoga, as always, turned into a Zrada ...
      Secondly, this decision shows the IMF's insolvency / non-self-sufficiency in making such critical decisions. In front of the eyes of the whole world, the United States put the IMF in the 25th position of the Kama Sutra and lifted it.
      Thirdly (and most importantly), many say that now Greece and Portugal and Co. will send all their creditors to ... and to .... calmly pointing to Ukraine with a finger as an example. But the main thing in my opinion is to write off / send a touchstone to ... all the creditors of the USA themselves ... But the external debt from the USA is just -COSMOS!

      From now on, they will openly sponsor the "Huntslava" so that it does not die with one purpose, "agri" to Russia. In general, from December 20, Ukraine will officially become the "Zombie Country" whose goal is to die, having spoiled Russia as much as possible before death.

      Without gloating but simply stating a fact
      -Ukraine ce Europe-la-la-la-la-la ... laughing
      - Visa-free regime with Europe-la-la-la-la-la ... laughing


      PS
      It's nice to understand that you think the same way with such a clever girl as Sasha Rogers! I am glad that he is in Russia and A. Shariy is in the EU and they are safe from the wrath of Banderlog for writing the truth. The late Buzina thought that he could reach out to the "Zombanut" compatriots physically in the "Geroslav" for which he paid with his life ... sad
    11. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2015 09: 12 New
      +3
      what is default - the inability to pay (repay) debts. Well, Ukraine will default, so what? Why do they scare them? while the West needs them, they will be thrown crumbs from the table.
      1. adept666
        adept666 11 December 2015 09: 38 New
        +5
        do they scare them? while the West needs them, they will be thrown crumbs from the table.

        And who will throw energy and investment to them? Something for 2 years of Maidan, no one in a good way invested in their economy because they had a technical default. They do not want to take cheap energy from the Russian Federation, rush around the world - are looking for someone to buy. What kind of shisha is interesting? lol The EU didn’t even give them particularly cheap ones, but do you think they’ll throw them on a coal from Australia? wassat In any case, Europe took away the financing of Ukraine from us and that’s good, now it’s not our task and problem, but theirs. So let them deal with them themselves, write off debts, feed / drink, etc. And it’s doubly good that, besides Europe, it’s unlikely that anyone will stick their nose in them (unless the Chinese, but they are lovingly laughing ), and in Europe, in addition to Ukraine and their "leading" economies - the Baltic countries for the eyes (they also "freed" from the gas needle of the Russian Federation, despite the fact that even without additional expenses, their economy jo recession smile )
        1. syndicalist
          syndicalist 11 December 2015 10: 41 New
          -6
          Well, let’s say, even under Yanyka, energy sources got more expensive than Europe
          1. adept666
            adept666 12 December 2015 08: 16 New
            -1
            Well, let’s say, even under Yanyka, energy sources got more expensive than Europe
            Ukraine has never paid in the price prescribed in the contract in its life, it always had a solid 53-57% discount (add the transit loot here and get that Ukraine bought gas for 30-40 Baku dollars per 1000 meter cubes, therefore at yanyka the price for it was miniscule, and now what is your ticket price? laughing ), so you can consider your run not counted. no
        2. anfil
          anfil 11 December 2015 12: 42 New
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          A bit of history
          The concept of sovereign debt has existed in the global economy for a long time. However, like the phenomenon of default - for example, since the end of the 19 century, Portugal has defaulted on external debt obligations 4 times. Greece for the same period of time - 5 times. Spain is the leader - since 1870, it has loudly declared its insolvency 6 times. Once "distinguished" Russia and Argentina.
          Why is Ukraine better than us ?!

          And especially:-Ukraine plans to turn from an importer into an exporter of "blue fuel" in 10 years. This statement was made by Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk on Friday in his speech with the annual report on the activities of the Cabinet of Ministers.

          I’m thinking maybe they will introduce a new method of gas production, not using hydraulic fracturing, but in a more ecological way. After all, if together the whole country jumps, then maybe the gas itself will be released from the strata.
          True, the constant vibration about jumps affects the body badly, but it preserves the natural environment.
          1. adept666
            adept666 12 December 2015 08: 13 New
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            Why is Ukraine better than us ?!

            And I will explain to you how smile In 1998, the Russian Federation declared a technical default, but first of all, we did not terrorize creditors by not repaying the debt, demanding part of its cancellation (we just stopped payments), an intelligible restructuring program was adopted, which showed the state’s viability in a crisis situation (later all debts were paid with forfeit) and that we pay the bills in any case, we just delay a little. Secondly, do not confuse the warm with the soft: the Russian Federation is 40% of the world's mineral reserves, and the sale of resources is the simplest and most reliable source of money balance replenishment in terms of risks and investments. Most importantly, we had our own self-sufficient energy. But even so, investment income into the country's economy was seriously undermined, only serious players with large capital were ready to take risks (invested in energy production), i.e. after this default, having a stronger and more independent economy (then) than Ukraine (then and even more so now) we crawled out of this technical default for almost 10 years until 2008. (And this is with energy prices on average for a period under 100 $ please note). Only starting from the period 2005-2008 money and technologies of foreign investors (all kinds of factories of Samsung, Volkswagen, etc.) went to the country. That is why Ukraine is “better” than us, like Greece, Spain, Portugal will get out of default and pre-default 24/7 * 365 * 100500 (years) wassat
      2. alex74nur
        alex74nur 11 December 2015 09: 44 New
        +1
        But these "crumbs" will be enough maximum for "maintaining pants" for the junta. We are no longer talking about serious investments and economic development.
      3. WKS
        WKS 11 December 2015 11: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        what is default - the inability to pay (repay) debts. Well, Ukraine will default, so what? Why do they scare them? while the West needs them, they will be thrown crumbs from the table.

        And those, like chickens, will actively peck them, shaking their scallops and rather cackling.
    12. SPACE
      SPACE 11 December 2015 09: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: The same Lech
      Insanity grows stronger in the IMF.

      Everything is easier ...
      Quote: article
      So, December 8 at the next meeting of the IMF Board, it was decided to change the charter of the fund, which allows lending to troubled countries even after they declare a default.

      The IMF’s decision is in fact a direct confirmation of the inevitability of Ukraine’s default, this bag will be dragged for some time without the “handle” and without the “wheels”, which Putin unscrewed in time, but didn’t pull it out, they had more than a year to do it, and the result .. .))). Without Russia, Ukraine cut off anyone’s unnecessary chunk, grain without a stick, since Ukraine is an integral part of Russia, we can say that the USSR and earlier the Russian Empire are geopolitical formations, the main founders of which were Russia and Ukraine as well.
      Z.Y. there are so many debtors in the world))) the world economy has passed the zero point and entered the zone of "-" infinity. A vital necessity above any law, welcome to the animal world.
    13. Vend
      Vend 11 December 2015 09: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      Insanity grows stronger in the IMF.
      Argentina, Greece, Cyprus and other countries can now follow the path of UKRAINE ... a precedent has been set.

      Another PANDORA box has been opened .... now you can not pay debts and present your conditions to creditors ... idiotic situation.

      That is unlikely.
      IMF “may” but not “obligated”
      That's it for this. The IMF will lend to the one pointed to by the United States.
    14. Altona
      Altona 11 December 2015 12: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      Argentina, Greece, Cyprus and other countries can now follow the path of UKRAINE ... a precedent has been set.

      --------------------------
      Our three billion and so will return, because these bonds were issued by trust funds, and not actually Ukraine, are protected by English law, so everything is clear there. Yesterday I listened to one international lawyer. But Ukraine can continue to dance its own financial hopak, nothing will help it.
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    16. kare
      kare 11 December 2015 13: 32 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      Argentina, Greece, Cyprus and other countries can now follow the path of UKRAINE ... a precedent has been set.


      They are all already on this path. Since the contract with the general predictor recourse

  2. fedos_87
    fedos_87 11 December 2015 08: 38 New
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    Therefore, it’s worth playing with Russians either honestly or not at all

    Good Bismarck phrase
    1. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 11 December 2015 10: 18 New
      +1
      .... Bismarck’s good phrase ...

      ... He did not have one such .... A smart man was ..... Very .... I read that in some German city a monument stands to him with his BACK to the east (well, he wanted his life) .... With a slight hint that the Germans have nothing to do in the east (Russia) .... True, the last followers violated this rule 2 times (World War 1 and 2) .... What did Germany bring to this - you yourself know ... hi
  3. vladnn2015
    vladnn2015 11 December 2015 08: 39 New
    +2
    With Russians it’s worth playing fair or not playing at all. Bismarck
    Do not play too much, "dear" neighbors!
  4. avvg
    avvg 11 December 2015 08: 41 New
    +3
    If "Rabbit-Yatsenyuk," you are a Russophobe, then we will save you, so Mrs. Christine Lagarde said to "Rabbit-Yatsenyuk."
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 December 2015 08: 44 New
    +4
    this does not mean that after the default of Ukraine is declared, he will continue to lend to it

    It is clear that the change of rules is a purely political decision and directed without any diplomatic restraint against Russia. By its decision, the IMF simply wants to throw Russia into Ukraine’s hands at first for 3 billion greens. But he will continue to lend to Ukraine even to his own detriment, because this country performs a certain US function, the main goal of which is again Russia.
  6. Niki
    Niki 11 December 2015 08: 44 New
    +7
    I still don’t quite understand the formal side of Eurobonds.
    The fact that the IMF and Eurobonds are not related to each other is understandable.
    But why exactly does the RF Ministry of Finance need to sue the Ministry of Finance of Ukraine,
    if this debt was issued through Eurobonds - not directly?
  7. meriem1
    meriem1 11 December 2015 08: 45 New
    +5
    That is, the IMF "can", but not "obligated." Otherwise, any problematic countries could use such a change, starting with Greece and ending with Portugal and Argentina.


    That's when Greece with Portugal and Argentina will refuse to pay the IMF due to new rules! That is absolutely! And the same interest! Referring to her statements and new circumstances, then We will see the results of the decisions pushed through the USA! In the meantime, it remains only to wait calmly!

    PS. It is a very good idea to strain insurance guarantors from London. Let them "pinch off" their piece of "bread" ...
    1. S_last
      S_last 11 December 2015 20: 00 New
      +1
      Is the IMF urged not to pay? It seemed to me that the essence of the change was that he, the IMF, could give out loans in the event of a default in the state. Well, let them give it out, they are not giving us money. So we have nothing to worry about.
      1. KVS
        KVS 11 December 2015 22: 41 New
        0
        I don’t agree! The Russian Federation is a member of the IMF with its% share of the general charter, so when issuing a loan to a country, each member of the IMF contributes a percentage to the indicated loan amount ...
  8. FiremamRescueS
    FiremamRescueS 11 December 2015 08: 46 New
    +5
    Those. a change in the IMF charter and the default of dill, is this a pure coincidence? Fresh tradition, but hard to believe.
  9. Masya masya
    Masya masya 11 December 2015 08: 47 New
    +4
    "Firstly, talk about such a change in the IMF charter has been going on for several years, and began even when no debt from Kiev to Moscow existed." so Ukraine served as a catalyst ...
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 11 December 2015 08: 48 New
    +2
    Bravo, Alexander! I especially liked the last phrase: “Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it’s worth playing with the Russians honestly or not at all. ”
  11. Wolka
    Wolka 11 December 2015 08: 50 New
    0
    it's hard to argue, but Bismarck was far from ...
  12. izya top
    izya top 11 December 2015 08: 51 New
    10
    I came across an interesting article about changing the rules of the fund. I can’t find something, but the message was that of the Yankees, using the ruin as an excuse, they rewrote the rules for themselves. They owe it to the whole world, and they have to give a lot, but I don’t want to, and there’s nothing . Here and set a precedent.
    and yes, with a ashore drinks
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 11 December 2015 09: 03 New
      +4
      The Macington macaques owe 18 trillion bucks, but they have a machine tool. They wreak havoc around the world, CREATING THE ILLUSION OF STABILITY FOR MYSELF.
      But we will survive this if we squeeze rodents in our country that plunder state funds.
      Shtirlitsy forward! However, did anyone analyze the economic crime landing? They planted a small riffraff, so they seem to have no time to do serious things, there are not enough specialists.
      The director’s salary cannot differ from a qualified specialist at a state-owned enterprise hundreds or thousands of times. It is time for the popular front and the prosecutors to pay attention to this.
      1. Chiropractor
        Chiropractor 11 December 2015 10: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: Balu
        but they have a machine


        To their great regret, the possibilities to use this machine are almost exhausted - the world economy will not withstand further quantitative easing. Several times we were shown the play "raising the ceiling of the US debt after the battle of the president with Congress" - this is from the same story.

        No, they can print (who forbids them), but they will not get the effect anymore - here tolerance in the medical sense will manifest itself in the economic field.
  13. worldofpain
    worldofpain 11 December 2015 08: 57 New
    0
    I think there is another version that Lagarde made a tricky move to amend the IMF charter with fuzzy wordings. It’s more likely a tip for the USA to stop pushing. The interpretation of the charter will most likely be voiced later and the meaning will most likely be different. Lagarde is not such a fool, she understands that the IMF is one step away from the crisis and will not continue to drown the fund.
  14. ibu355yandex.ru
    ibu355yandex.ru 11 December 2015 09: 00 New
    +5
    Despite the words of Bismarck cited in the final part of the article, something tells me that everything will go along the thumb track.
    Russia, as an aggressor country, will meet the "fraternal people of Ukraine" and restructure debt as a commercial ...
    God bless me to make a mistake! And Russia has shown itself as a Sovereign State with Honor and Dignity !!!
  15. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 11 December 2015 09: 01 New
    +2
    It would be nice to knock loudly so that they would hear ... we came for a debt. You need to make more pounding machines, otherwise it might not be enough for everyone ...
  16. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 11 December 2015 09: 01 New
    0
    The point is probably not the "big" love of the IMF with Ukraine. The very phrase “May” but “Not required”, shows a desire to make the IMF even more dependent on who is promoting it! That is, there is someone who wants to make a decision to distribute, but not only cookies.
    Remember how all the monarchs calmed people from troubles? - Solemn departure and scattering of coins! And here he is! Father and Protector!
    They want to do the same thing now!
    I do not think that this is the IMF’s desire and that they want to save bankrupt from defaults. This is just another measure to keep in check those who did not have time to stand on their feet and lower those who have already risen.
    IMHO! hi
  17. Engineer
    Engineer 11 December 2015 09: 07 New
    +1
    I’ve been reading about Ukraine’s default for the second year, and now it’s coming ... I’m waiting for it to come.
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 11 December 2015 09: 16 New
      +5
      Engineer
      I’ve been reading about Ukraine’s default for the second year, and now it’s coming ... I’m waiting for it to come.

      Still! A bit more!
      They have been talking and waiting for more than a century about the end of the world! Are waiting! laughing And we will wait!
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  18. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 11 December 2015 09: 08 New
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    As long as sanctions apply - no restructuring! And then we’ll think about it ...
  19. solovey
    solovey 11 December 2015 09: 10 New
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    The main phrase in the article is what Bismarck said.
    Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever.
    * Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.
    * Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast.
    HELLO Otto Edward Leopold Karl-Wilhelm-Ferdinand
    von Bismarck-Schönhausen.
  20. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 11 December 2015 09: 14 New
    +5
    As one of the options, the Russian government can reach a court decision, according to which any proceeds of finance to the accounts of the Kiev regime will be arrested and transferred directly to the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation to pay off the loan.

    Or it may not succeed ... and how in general Russia can achieve something at the European court, which, in principle, is always against Russia.
  21. Vantal
    Vantal 11 December 2015 09: 38 New
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    Moreover, as Bismarck said, “Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it’s worth playing with the Russians honestly or not at all. ”
    Well said!!!
  22. kursk87
    kursk87 11 December 2015 09: 45 New
    +3
    IMF will act as the Americans command! The litigation with Ukraine will be very long and in a row whether in favor of Russia. Western countries recall observing international law only when it is beneficial to the West itself.
  23. Valentine
    Valentine 11 December 2015 09: 50 New
    +2
    What protests, what courts? All of them were bought uncle Sam in the bud, the IMF-pocket "organization" of Washington, and will follow his instructions until
    the last dollar lying on his accounts. But, if the IMF, and others like them, took such a sneaky step for the sake of "nenki", then it means that someone really needs it, but someone does not make sense, and everything is clear .Ukraine "dragon" and will "dragon" on any confrontation with Russia, up to the military conflict, in which the US is very interested. Ancient Chinese wisdom says: who will win from the two fighting tigers? And the monkey sitting on the tree and watching the outcome of the duel will win, when they kill each other.
  24. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 11 December 2015 10: 22 New
    +1
    Here, without any doubt, no concessions with the West and Kiev should be made.
    Must mean must! And no conditions should be dictated by Yatsenka in essence. Therefore, time goes against Ukraine, and these pitiful aid of several million dollars will not save them at all, given their current deficit of several billion. Despite the fact that Ukraine today has the conditions to close this gap just not. They managed to destroy everything that is possible. There is no prospect either, this agreement with the EU will move this country close to Somalia.
  25. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 December 2015 10: 24 New
    +1
    Is there still such a amazing country like Ukraine? laughing

    Where, in which state, does a visit of a foreign official, such as Biden, pass as a national holiday?

    Well, in Russia, in China, in Iran, in India, etc.? Yes, even in Germany.

    To what extent should worship be lowered so that all people can celebrate such a breakthrough, and, in the highest body of state power (Parliament), open their mouths and listen to the speeches of an overseas manager? Yes and then tweet "The USA is with us! They will punish Russia". Punishment has not yet grown.

    The social system in Ukraine is a state anus. laughing
  26. Zomanus
    Zomanus 11 December 2015 10: 36 New
    0
    As I wrote earlier, these changes do not change the conditions for obtaining loans.
    That is, yes, the IMF can give loans. But at the same time exposing such conditions for their receipt, what is better default. That is, Ukraine was deprived of the opportunity to send everyone and begin to survive on their own. Now it will be buried deeper and deeper into the credit hole.
  27. atamankko
    atamankko 11 December 2015 10: 38 New
    0
    No concessions to the arrogant and no they are "fraternal people",
    Ukrainians everywhere they kiss their ass everywhere.
  28. aviator1913
    aviator1913 11 December 2015 10: 41 New
    +2
    In vain, we gave them that loan then, I feel that the money was gone, it is unlikely that we will already see them. What they write here about all sorts of Greece and Portugal, return to the earth, no one will let them go bankrupt, they will put pressure, they will wave their fists next to their faces and they will pay everyone as cute, and they won’t talk about any precedent with Ukraine.

    Ukraine, too, do not give a shit about this debt, they will forget, investments and the like will not suffer much from this. There are few of them in developing countries now, they don’t want to invest in Ukraine, just like in us, so here they are already on the side of some sort of Russian debt.

    200 billion rubles were emptied and that’s it ... And at that moment they would be very useful, but our officials swore as if they would take this money away for a year, and as a result the dummy turned out to be their words and actions, balabol alone around.
    1. Travian
      Travian 11 December 2015 16: 04 New
      0
      wait. let's see what happens next with these billions. for us, three billion bullshit when we used to keep the ruble exchange rate, spent ten billion each (December 2014), and today for ukrov out of a billion, the amount is heavy. and I would like that the Kremlin would not yield and forgive the debt. Let it not be given today, but the debt will hang and pull ...
  29. Platon
    Platon 11 December 2015 10: 44 New
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    An interesting situation is obtained. First, the IMF permits not to repay government debt. Then he declares that this decision is politically unmotivated (that is, it was adopted not for the sake of “beloved” Ukraine, but for everyone). The question arises of how quickly debtor countries will begin massive non-payment of loans to creditor countries, and especially the IMF itself.
  30. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 December 2015 10: 48 New
    +2
    In vain we gave them that loan then


    I had the same feeling at the end of 2013. It’s good that they did not give another 12 billion.

    And at that moment they would be very useful


    400 Armat could be built.
    1. Travian
      Travian 11 December 2015 16: 06 New
      0
      if Yanukovych remained in power, they would have given all 12 billion.
  31. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 11 December 2015 11: 03 New
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    Interested in the article, Alexandra. Enough "new" look at the hackneyed topic about the IMF. That's just the author’s phrase

    As one of the options, the Russian government can reach a court decision according to which any proceeds of finance to the accounts of the Kiev regime will be arrested and transferred directly to the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation to pay off the loan .....


    raises great doubts, because, again, it contradicts the IMF rules prohibiting the use of special-purpose loans for other purposes.
    Nevertheless, something like that, colleagues, I liked the article. hi
  32. Calter
    Calter 11 December 2015 11: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: Platon
    An interesting situation is obtained. First, the IMF permits not to repay government debt. Then he declares that this decision is politically unmotivated (that is, it was adopted not for the sake of “beloved” Ukraine, but for everyone). The question arises of how quickly debtor countries will begin massive non-payment of loans to creditor countries, and especially the IMF itself.

    If the IMF and the United States are working in the same team, then the great principle of "hand washes hand" has not been canceled. Debtors who are still keen on going bankrupt will be threatened with a charge of lack of democracy - and they will shut up in a rag. And to sue Ukraine in a European court is to lose these 3 billion, as well as an even indefinite amount, because the wolf of sheep will not judge. Stupid situation.
  33. triglav
    triglav 11 December 2015 11: 19 New
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    Bismarck, unfortunately, did not listen to Hitler, nor his followers ...
  34. Stena
    Stena 11 December 2015 11: 24 New
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    Without knowing the conditions of the loan (if there were any) on this three billionth debt, it is impossible to say something reliably about its repayment or non-repayment. One can only guess, which is what most authors do.
    Even if the Ukrainians defaulted - it doesn’t affect anything - the population doesn’t care - they don’t take loans from international organizations. Their prices are already rising and will continue to rise with such actions of managers. He will not fight against the existing government - all the more so, judging by the election results, they support it. There are no life options as an independent state either. Perhaps in 1,5 years Ukraine will turn into a huge village with gigantic debts. Why does he need loans then? Therefore, the default doesn’t change anything strategically - just as everything went towards turning an industrial country into a village - it goes. From my point of view, default does not bring the end of the Nazi gang that seized power there ...
  35. ArcanAG
    ArcanAG 11 December 2015 11: 31 New
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    What prevented the IMF from lending to the Kiev regime for three billion so far?

    I think the conviction that Ukraine will not give this money to Russia anyway. In the best case, it will let go of its current needs, but most likely it will be stolen.
  36. Appraiser
    Appraiser 11 December 2015 13: 08 New
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    This is the usual “Europolitik” of double standards, if the IMF recognizes the default of Ukraine, then it therefore recognizes the failure of the Ukrainian government. From which it follows that everything that happens in Ukraine is the usual "ordering". bully
  37. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 11 December 2015 13: 58 New
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    The deflection of the IMF does not cancel the default of Ukraine

    What is the matter of the West to Ukraine with its default! Eurocroin should fulfill the mission assigned to it by America and that’s it. And for this, this country must be nourished so that it does not bend until the hour x. And the rules and laws will be rewritten as many times as necessary.
  38. Mercenary
    Mercenary 11 December 2015 14: 40 New
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    Well, gentlemen, corrupt “lawyers” do not get scammed even now, but = no matter how you look Russia can’t stop supplying, it will result in unprofitable fines, and the Power of Siberia is obliged to build a gas flow for its (people's) money. Better interest on mortgages for young families was reduced to 0,001! am
    1. S_last
      S_last 11 December 2015 20: 26 New
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      Such percent does not happen, this is a fairy tale.

      Here is Sweden.

      A loan is issued on the basis of an extract from the Land Cadastre, which indicates the cadastral value of the property (approximately 75% of the market value).

      The amount of the loan does not exceed 75% of the cadastral value of the property. Every year, the cadastral value of the property is reassessed due to the changing economic situation.

      Today, the interest rate on a loan in Sweden is 2,7%.

      Mortgages are provided for a minimum of 15 years, a maximum of 40 years.

      Spain

      mortgage term 5-30 years
      You can issue a mortgage in the amount of up to 70% of the cost at 3,5-4,5% per annum.

      Israel

      Interest rates on state mortgage programs are 3-4% per annum. In commercial banks can reach 7%, but usually they are very much dependent on the timing. The longer the loan term, the higher the rate, and vice versa. The term for state programs is 28 years. By the way, regarding the timing in Israel. Those who for 15 years continue to live in housing purchased under this program can count on it. After 15 years, all remaining debt is written off and the encumbrance is removed from the property.

      So your percentage is fantastic.
  39. Santjaga_Garka
    Santjaga_Garka 11 December 2015 17: 55 New
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    Moreover, as Bismarck said, “Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it’s worth playing with the Russians honestly or not at all. ”

    Bismarck generally understood the Russians very well, which cannot be said about most of the other rulers of the "West" ...
    1. S_last
      S_last 11 December 2015 19: 43 New
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      Please share the original source of this statement of Bismarck. I can not find. Thanks in advance.
  40. S_last
    S_last 11 December 2015 19: 36 New
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    The author thinks so, this is his holy right.
    It only seems that this debt will be returning for a long, tedious and difficult.
    Default may or may not, one thing is not clear how this will help us. It is possible that some citizens will experience a feeling of deep moral satisfaction.
    And about the destruction of the foundations of imperialism, this is of course strongly said, and that’s what the government thinks about this ....

    Moscow. December 10th. INTERFAX.RU - Russia does not consider it necessary to leave the International Monetary Fund (IMF) because of its recent decisions to equalize the situation of commercial and sovereign borrowers of countries receiving fund support, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov told reporters.
    The Minister noted that the IMF "implements the right policy aimed at supporting the balance of payments, the budget of countries in need of financial assistance, structural reforms. ”

    «There are a lot of highly qualified specialists who work in countries, contribute to the development and financial stabilization. This is a very important and necessary institution, especially in the current difficult situation in the global economy. I think it’s absolutely impractical to leave the fund. We have been and will remain participants in this important international financial institution. ”- he said.

    At the same time, the minister emphasized that the amount of support that the IMF can provide in case of additional capitalization could be more significant, and the principles of work could be “more equitable and effective.”

    As you can see, experts say that everything is good and even better.