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Iraqi Kurds reported getting Russian weapons

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Moscow provided military assistance to Iraqi Kurd militia detachments - "Peshmerge", reports Kommersant with reference to the Kurdish edition of Rudaw.




This information is confirmed by the Russian Consul General in Erbil Viktor Simakov. According to the diplomat, he “informed the head of the autonomy’s political department, Karim Sinjari, about the arrival of Russian military aid during a meeting that took place earlier this week.”

The list of weapons supplied is not given, only the party of the rifle is known. weapons.

Earlier, Russia's ambassador to Baghdad, Ilya Morgunov, stated that “Moscow does not directly supply weapons to the Iraqi Kurds to fight terrorists and expects Baghdad to hand over part of the Russian weapons supplied to the Kurds.”

“Iraqi Kurdistan is a part of Iraq, and military-technical cooperation with it is carried out exclusively through Baghdad,” the diplomat explained. “We presume that it is the federal government that should distribute military products among all the units fighting with the Islamic State.”

According to Kommersant, last year Baghdad was among the leaders in the procurement of Russian weapons, losing only to India in this regard. “Moscow delivered nine attack aircraft Su-25, 12 heavy flamethrower systems TOC-1A, six attack Mi-28HE helicopters and up to ten Mi-35М helicopters to Iraq. In addition, the transfer of the Pantsir-C1 air defense system kits to Baghdad began. The sum of the weapons supplied is about $ 1,7 billion, ”the newspaper reminds.

“The main condition for any assistance to Iraqi Kurdish autonomy from Moscow is not to quarrel with Baghdad,” Andrei Sushentsov, an associate professor at the Department for Applied Analysis of International Problems at MGIMO, explained to the newspaper. “Russia does not have a goal to stir up separatist sentiments inside Iraq so that Kurdish autonomy will receive international legal recognition.”

According to the adviser to the director of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies, an orientalist, Elena Suponina, “Moscow is interested in cooperating with the Kurds, whose militia has secured a reputation as leading troops in the fight against terrorism in the Middle East.”

“In the context of the conflict between Moscow and Ankara, which has close ties with the leadership of the autonomy, any Russian assistance to Erbil could serve as an additional irritant for the Turkish authorities and personally President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. He put a lot of effort into gaining the trust of Iraqi Kurdistan leader Massoud Barzani. However, as the experts interviewed by Kommersant are convinced, Moscow will not “sneak up on the sly,” and play the Iraqi Kurdistan card in the current confrontation with Ankara, ”the newspaper concludes.
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  1. prabiz
    prabiz 10 December 2015 09: 12 New
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    Well, then now Erdogan will get a lyuley!
    1. War and Peace
      War and Peace 10 December 2015 09: 17 New
      80
      to form on the territory of Russia the First International Kurdish Tank Division to them. Stalin and Ankara pin_dosov push ...
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 10 December 2015 10: 47 New
        +6
        Quote: War and Peace
        to form on the territory of Russia the First International Kurdish Tank Division to them. Stalin and Ankara pin_dosov push ...



        Well, for sure, war and peace ... A statement corresponds to a nickname ...

        I put a plus for a successful fantastic pun ...
        1. War and Peace
          War and Peace 10 December 2015 11: 13 New
          12
          Quote: veksha50
          Quote: War and Peace
          to form on the territory of Russia the First International Kurdish Tank Division to them. Stalin and Ankara pin_dosov push ...



          Well, for sure, war and peace ... A statement corresponds to a nickname ...

          I put a plus for a successful fantastic pun ...


          for you, politics is a game of pretense, a lot of talk, a lot of fake feelings for the public, but when the death of Russian soldiers there is a loss of state prestige and every evil little thing like Turkey, Poland or Ukraine can not only afford to spit in the direction of RUSSIA, but also shoot in the back, and in response, Russia confines itself to breaking the tourism business instead of answering adequately — death for death — such news about the arming of the Kurds allows us to hope finally that in the Kremlin, not only thunder and lightning will be thrown, but finally take steps that really make Russia respect ...
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          2. mart-kot
            mart-kot 10 December 2015 11: 54 New
            +5
            Do you know how many Turkish tankers drove retaliation as a result of the operation? About this they are still silent.
            1. War and Peace
              War and Peace 10 December 2015 12: 31 New
              +1
              Quote: mart-kot
              Do you know how many Turkish tankers drove retaliation as a result of the operation? About this they are still silent.

              and how many? did you count
              1. SIvan
                SIvan 11 December 2015 19: 28 New
                +2
                As many as fuel trucks. Thousands.
              2. SIvan
                SIvan 11 December 2015 19: 29 New
                0
                As many as fuel trucks. Thousands!
              3. SIvan
                SIvan 11 December 2015 19: 31 New
                +1
                As many as fuel trucks. Thousands!
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          3. your1970
            your1970 10 December 2015 12: 45 New
            +8
            War and Peace
            Yes, let’s answer adequately — we’ll blow up all nuclear stations, all warheads, all nuclear submarines and icebreakers directly in Russia, all the same, they all (the whole world !!!) will die after that, nuclear winter and so on ...

            Think at least occasionally fool foolпро стариков,женщин и детей в РФ-а то главный лозунг "Бахнуть!!"..
            or if you really want to fight strongly, go to Syria to the Assad troops.

            if you think that after polishing someone from the militants survived in vain, and even worked heavily on fuel trucks
            1. perm23
              perm23 11 December 2015 08: 22 New
              +1
              They sat there waiting for us to arrive to take revenge. If there were constant carpet bombing then yes, but I don’t think that they were badly damaged. Moreover, we are informing the coalition about our actions. It would be nice if everything was your way.
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            3. War and Peace
              War and Peace 11 December 2015 12: 23 New
              -4
              Quote: your1970
              War and Peace
              Yes, let’s answer adequately — we’ll blow up all nuclear stations, all warheads, all nuclear submarines and icebreakers directly in Russia, all the same, they all (the whole world !!!) will die after that, nuclear winter and so on ...

              Think at least occasionally fool foolпро стариков,женщин и детей в РФ-а то главный лозунг "Бахнуть!!"..
              or if you really want to fight strongly, go to Syria to the Assad troops.

              if you think that after polishing someone from the militants survived in vain, and even worked heavily on fuel trucks


              such as you are ready to turn your left cheek when they beat the right Russian people, such a position is disgusting - this is a philosophy of a coward, and even with demagogic maxims, most likely this will not be the last provocation by the Turks and only a tough answer, say, a blow to the Turkish army located in Iraq or on the territory of Syria will be able to reason overtaxing aggressors ...
              1. Mayor_U
                Mayor_U 12 December 2015 11: 19 New
                +5
                Are you authorized to answer for the people? Do not worry revenge and will still take revenge on. The reaction of our state is absolutely adequate. And your voice is a couch warrior ... Go and deliver a hard blow to the Turkish army, the great couch warrior
            4. vityanya.68
              vityanya.68 12 December 2015 16: 50 New
              0
              Respect to the author !!! hi
          4. go21zd45few
            go21zd45few 12 December 2015 16: 25 New
            +1
            Everything goes its own way and without haste. Vladimir Putin makes an endurance, because do not forget that New Year and Christmas holidays are ahead, and there will be something serious that buzuki will not like bash.
      2. the most important
        the most important 10 December 2015 11: 30 New
        +4
        Quote: War and Peace
        form the First International Kurdish Tank Division in Russia

        You obviously wanted to say - THE ARMY !!!
      3. Sorokin
        Sorokin 11 December 2015 13: 28 New
        +1
        Shaping is not necessary. For a long time formed. However, where will it shoot?
      4. 3axap82
        3axap82 11 December 2015 20: 20 New
        +4
        On the left is the Kurdish general ...
      5. ermak.sidorov
        ermak.sidorov 12 December 2015 19: 06 New
        0
        and push pin_dosov on Ankara ...

        ... not a sad
        better then not to Ankara! laughing
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 10 December 2015 09: 17 New
      17
      We will see. The Greeks seem to have the S-300, but the Turks both violated their airspace and violate it.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 10 December 2015 09: 24 New
        +7
        Yes, there’s a lot of small arms they will scare Turks there, they generally asked for MANPADS
        1. Rus86
          Rus86 10 December 2015 09: 43 New
          +9
          as you think, we write two, three in mind.
          ZU 23-2, too, almost a shooting gun, however ... (there is not much sense against planes, but it is dangerous to turntables) (view from the sofa)
          1. igorka357
            igorka357 11 December 2015 10: 31 New
            +2
            You generally saw a shell from 23-2, it’s like a cannon caliber!
      2. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 10 December 2015 09: 24 New
        14
        Strange, we continue in the same spirit! Erdohryun, Mount Ararat, the symbol of Armenia, you say, on whose land is it located? am
        1. scientist
          scientist 10 December 2015 10: 07 New
          +9
          If the next step is the promise of the presidents of Iraq and Syria to create Kurdish autonomy, then Daesh and its sponsors Erdogan will definitely end.
          1. veksha50
            veksha50 10 December 2015 10: 52 New
            +8
            Quote: scientist
            If the next step is the promise of the presidents of Iraq and Syria to create Kurdish autonomy, then DAISH and its sponsors Erdogan will definitely end.


            No...

            They can be destroyed only by the whole world - to crush in any territory where they only light up ...

            And while the United States, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey exist, such organizations will exist and even develop ...

            PS Some of these countries will financially feed others on their territory will give shelter, treatment and shelter ...

            And the Kurds alone can not cope with Daesh or Turkey ... And they do not set such a goal for themselves, their goal is to create a free, independent, internationally recognized Kurdistan community ...

            It's just that now we are achieving some goals - temporary fellow travelers ... Cynically, I do not argue, but - corresponds to reality ...
            1. scientist
              scientist 10 December 2015 13: 16 New
              +1
              Quote: veksha50
              They can only be destroyed by the whole world.

              This is too abstract, especially since a number of countries will use terrorists to achieve their goals in the region.
              Quote: veksha50
              we are in the achievement of certain goals - temporary companions ..

              Any nation that pursues its own interests, and not the interests of foreign moneybags for Russia and the entire free world is the most reliable ally. This is the main goal of a multipolar just world.
              1. veksha50
                veksha50 10 December 2015 14: 08 New
                0
                Quote: scientist
                It's too abstract


                Absolutely not abstract ... It turned out abstractly with you - you pulled out my unfinished phrase, took only part of it ...

                А звучала она так: "Уничтожить их можно только всем миром - put pressure on any territory where it’s just lit"...

                And please read on what I’m writing about ... Otherwise, you are putting my comment on me as one-sidedly against me ... There everyone was distributed ...
            2. CTEPX
              CTEPX 11 December 2015 20: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: veksha50
              In the meantime, there are the USA, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey

              Вместо "США" поставь "англосаксы" - это будет ближе к истине)).
        2. V.ic
          V.ic 10 December 2015 11: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: Major Yurik
          ora Ararat is a symbol of Armenia, you say, on whose land is it located?

          From 1829 to 1918/20 The northern part was located on the territory of the Russian Empire.
      3. Bluesman
        Bluesman 10 December 2015 09: 30 New
        +4
        Quote: 1976AG
        We will see. The Greeks seem to have the S-300, but the Turks both violated their airspace and violate it.

        and will violate. Although, of course, it would be interesting to see how NATO members will shoot each other down. Turks, along the way, corporatism is an empty phrase.
        1. Phantom Revolution
          Phantom Revolution 10 December 2015 09: 31 New
          25
          I will add this article, a rather interesting analysis. Unfortunately, the site administration deleted this article. Part 1.
          The heap is small: NATO is bombing ISIS to take away land from Assad, Russia - to return - Israel Shamir on Syria

          As the younger students joyfully rush to the mountain of the bodies of their fighting friends with a cry of "Heap is small!", So is the number of participants in the Syrian war. “The pile is small,” Cameron, the British prime minister, screeched, and sent two planes (and soon there will be six!) To bomb Daesh *.

          “The pile is small,” Chancellor Merkel answered, and sent as many 1200 soldiers to Syria. The Turks crossed the border and established a serious base near Mosul, the capital of the Iraqi Islamic State (a terrorist organization banned in Russia - ed.). It is only a matter of time before President Obama flops into this mess too.

          They would ask Syria what it feels like under this fun pile, she would answer: "Syria is against." Syria wants help from Russia, but does not want from Europeans and Americans. Like in a dark cinema: “Take your hand away! No, not you, you can leave. ” Syria does not care who bombes its cities and open spaces. Russia interacts with the legitimate government of Damascus, with the one that sends ambassadors, sits in the UN and feeds 80% of the population. If Russia helps take away the territory from Daesh, this territory will come under the control of the Syrian government.

          NATO's goal is just the opposite. If they enter the Syrian war, then only in order to prevent Bashar al-Assad from taking control of all Syria. They declare that they are fighting with Daesh, but their main enemy is the legitimate government of Syria. If not Russia.

          Alas, I do not want to upset you, dear reader, but the French belong to the same category. They speak of the “great coalition against Daesh” as a new anti-Hitler coalition, but these are empty words. Daesh is not so strong. Russia is an enemy worse than Daesh in the eyes of NATO. The people in France and England do not think so, therefore, the leaders of these countries powder their brains to their citizens, saying that together with Russia we will defeat a terrorist.

          However, during World War II, the Americans would have bombed the Red Army if it had gone to free Paris from the Nazi beast. Everyone understands that the one who liberates will own. Remember the "17 Moments of Spring"?
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          2. Phantom Revolution
            Phantom Revolution 10 December 2015 09: 44 New
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            Part 2.
            Our reader has the right to know that so far no Western leader has agreed that Bashar Assad (and Russia) remain in Syria. Kerry did not say this, and Hollande did not say that, although such an impression could have developed. This has yet to be achieved.

            The West does not want Russian victory, does not want peace and tranquility in Syria. Turkey plays on the US side, unfortunately. Therefore, no matter what the Turks do, the United States will support it. And the Turks sent troops to Iraq. If they try to send troops into Syria, Russia will have to bomb them. Yes, and the British and Germans need to directly say - "You were not invited here." There is no benefit from their participation, but they will also come up with a separate state, “Free Northern Syria,” under their control, for distribution.

            “Does it really matter who bombes to bomb terrorists?” The simpleton asks. The goal is not to bomb Syria, but to save it, to return power to a legitimate government. To drive out terrorists is a simple matter, there would be agreement, but there is no agreement. The West is now trying to urgently put together militants from the numerous militias in Saudi Arabia - a unified force against Assad. This as yet non-existent force should occupy the territories from which the Daesh is being knocked out, according to the Western plan.

            Russia was already at this stage in the 1944 year - when the Red Army and its ally, Army Ludova, liberated Poland, and the pro-London Army Krajova tried to seize the initiative and enjoy the fruits of the Russian victory.

            On the side of Russia is international law, as rightly reminded Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. There are exactly two ways to legally enter a foreign country: at the invitation of the authorities or by decision of the UN Security Council. The Russians have in their pocket an invitation from the legitimate authorities of Syria, but the Europeans and Americans do not. There is no UN decision: the UN Security Council resolution 2249, which was adopted after the Paris attacks and referred to by Europeans, does not authorize armed intervention in Syria. She calls for finding sources of funding and weapons for Daesh, and for this purpose it is not necessary to fly to Syria.
          3. troy
            troy 12 December 2015 21: 51 New
            0
            I want to bring my piece to this truth. FRENCHES ARE CRAWLING TRAITORS WHO DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK. REMEMBER HISTORY WITH MISTRALS? non-self-contained, flawed, occupied congregation. unfortunately De Golei is no longer there.
        2. 1976AG
          1976AG 10 December 2015 13: 27 New
          +1
          And then what was the point of buying a complex, spending money?
      4. Air Force captain
        Air Force captain 10 December 2015 09: 33 New
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        Quote: 1976AG
        We will see. The Greeks seem to have the S-300, but the Turks both violated their airspace and violate it.
        the Greeks Faberge from Pope Mache
        1. leytenant
          leytenant 10 December 2015 09: 43 New
          +1
          Golden words!
        2. V.ic
          V.ic 10 December 2015 11: 04 New
          -2
          Quote: Air Force Captain
          from papier-mâché

          It turns out from the ass Masha? For information: (fr.) Papier-mache.
      5. kaluganew
        kaluganew 10 December 2015 09: 39 New
        +2
        They are both members of NATO. Not surprising.
      6. Konstantin Yu
        Konstantin Yu 10 December 2015 10: 06 New
        0
        ..NATO does not peck out NATO’s eyes .. The threads are pulled the same.
      7. WKS
        WKS 10 December 2015 11: 03 New
        +6
        Quote: 1976AG
        We will see. The Greeks seem to have the S-300, but the Turks both violated their airspace and violate it.

        So the Greeks are waiting for everything that someone else will start fighting with Turkey for them. Now there is great hope for Russia. They will morally support her, they will be ill and will be very worried.
      8. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 10 December 2015 11: 23 New
        +5
        Quote: 1976AG
        We will see. The Greeks seem to have the S-300, but the Turks both violated their airspace and violate it.

        Do you really think that Greece is a sovereign country?
      9. amba balamut 77
        amba balamut 77 10 December 2015 13: 51 New
        +3
        The Greeks didn’t even put him on duty; there was Doc. movie. Only the S-300 arrived in Cyprus, Ankara raised such a kipish in NATO that the Hellenes stuck their tongues in the ass, and handed over the complexes to storage bases without unpacking. True or not, I don’t know if it’s said that I bought it. hi
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    3. Lee_Mubai
      Lee_Mubai 10 December 2015 09: 38 New
      +4
      So like the Iraqi Kurds with Turkey in normal relations !? or I'm wrong?
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      3. Hello
        Hello 10 December 2015 11: 48 New
        +3
        Quote: Li_Mubai
        So like the Iraqi Kurds with Turkey in normal relations !? or I'm wrong?

        You are not mistaken, the Peshmerga and the Turks are on good terms. Barzani sells his oil mainly through Turkey. hi
    4. atalef
      atalef 10 December 2015 11: 53 New
      0
      Quote: prabiz
      Well, then now Erdogan will get a lyuley!

      I hope the Russian General Staff calculated the reaction of Turkey to the supply of weapons to the Kurds.
      so the question is, if the Turkoman will have air defense systems and Javelins - what can be presented to Erdogan?
      1. Hello
        Hello 10 December 2015 12: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: atalef

        I hope the Russian General Staff calculated the reaction of Turkey to the supply of weapons to the Kurds.
        so the question is, if the Turkoman will have air defense systems and Javelins - what can be presented to Erdogan?

        Hi Alexander, I think the deliveries to the Iraqi Kurds of Turkey are indifferent, but the reaction to the deliveries to the Syrian or Turkish Kurds will be accurate. hi
      2. Scoun
        Scoun 10 December 2015 12: 04 New
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        I hope the Russian General Staff calculated the reaction of Turkey to the supply of weapons to the Kurds.

        Earlier, Russia's ambassador to Baghdad, Ilya Morgunov, stated that “Moscow does not directly supply weapons to the Iraqi Kurds to fight terrorists and expects Baghdad to hand over part of the Russian weapons supplied to the Kurds.”

        Если часть вооружений Российского производства попадает в руки "пешмерга" - то только через руки Багдада и номинально это решение Багдада а не РФ. РФ только приветствует такой консенсус официальной власти и пешмерга.
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 10 December 2015 13: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: prabiz
      Well, then now Erdogan will get a lyuley!

      And here’s the military’s response to the downed bomber. At the very beginning, many forum users talked about deliveries of weapons to the Kurds. As long as they’re shooting, and there you’ll see MANPADS. And something tells me that the Kremlin’s answer will come up more than once. I think it’s worth waiting in soon shot down a Turkish fighter, and this will be done by brave Kurdish guys, or Greeks with Armenians, which is also very likely.
      1. atalef
        atalef 10 December 2015 13: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        And now the military response to our bomber shot down. At the very beginning, many forum users spoke about the supply of weapons to the Kurds. As long as a rifle, and there you look and MANPADS will appear

        Quote: Hello
        Hi Alexander, I think the deliveries to the Iraqi Kurds of Turkey are indifferent, but the reaction to the supplies to the Syrian or Turkish Kurds will definitely be

        Ilya, hello!
        you shouldn’t tear patterns so sharply, otherwise people’s brains will freeze.
        I understand that the Iraqi Kurds (Peshmerga Barzani) do not conflict with Turkey.
        Now the question? Is the supply of weapons to them not compensation for the bombed oil carriers that Iraqi Kurds have declared their own?
        1. Hello
          Hello 10 December 2015 13: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          Now the question? Is the supply of weapons to them not compensation for the bombed oil carriers that Iraqi Kurds have declared their own?

          Who knows everything is possible, I think the economic component plays an important role here. Nevertheless, Iraqi Kurdistan is the most promising of all Kurdistan. It is de facto independent and a significant part of Iraqi oil and gas in their territory, and they do not give so much to Baghdad. So they have a lot of money. It is not in vain that both Germany and the USA and we are actively building relations with them, which is worse for Russia. wink
      2. atalef
        atalef 10 December 2015 13: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: NEXUS
        And now the military response to our bomber shot down. At the very beginning, many forum users spoke about the supply of weapons to the Kurds. As long as a rifle, and there you look and MANPADS will appear

        Quote: Hello
        Hi Alexander, I think the deliveries to the Iraqi Kurds of Turkey are indifferent, but the reaction to the supplies to the Syrian or Turkish Kurds will definitely be

        Ilya, hello!
        you shouldn’t tear patterns so sharply, otherwise people’s brains will freeze.
        I understand that the Iraqi Kurds (Peshmerga Barzani) do not conflict with Turkey.
        Now the question? Is the supply of weapons to them not compensation for the bombed oil carriers that Iraqi Kurds have declared their own?
    6. YARUSSIAN39
      YARUSSIAN39 10 December 2015 13: 02 New
      +2
      Вот бы они пзрк получили, турки получили бы свое "бесполетное" пространство
    7. perm23
      perm23 11 December 2015 08: 17 New
      +1
      But who knows these Kurds. Here they stated that they were against the path of our missiles running over their territory. Some of them were for the Turks and the Americans. It’s good to choose who to deliver. And so that the plane crashes, the Turkish helicopter well, I want it very much.
    8. Ulum
      Ulum 12 December 2015 16: 35 New
      0
      Why's that? The Iraqi Kurds just train the Turks. Do not confuse with Syrian and Turkish Kurds. A very strange decision by our management
  2. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 10 December 2015 09: 12 New
    +5
    Well, whoo!
    Well, it was high time to do so!
    Начали, с "грехом пополам"!)))))))))))))))))
    ... А что там с нашими друзьями армянами? Есть новости по "поддержке" армии Армении? ;))
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 10 December 2015 09: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: Mihalich17
      Well, whoo!
      Well, it was high time to do so

      Well, how long ago, someone asked recently, the term of the ultimatum has expired and the question on whose side Iraq is no longer standing.
      Poor Erdogash, sit on the chair before it's too late ..... dunce !!!!
    2. sisa29
      sisa29 10 December 2015 11: 19 New
      +1
      And at whose expense is this banquet? Somehow modestly did not indicate the value of the gift. It is of course clear what will be against the Turks !!! ... or they won’t, or they will resell in Daesh.
  3. dorz
    dorz 10 December 2015 09: 14 New
    +7
    Asymmetric response of Turkey.
  4. venaya
    venaya 10 December 2015 09: 15 New
    +8
    This is the thing! And what kind of wax to introduce? There the darkness is dark, let them fight themselves, they are accustomed to this business, not to teach them, but only to help if possible.
  5. Teberii
    Teberii 10 December 2015 09: 15 New
    +2
    They talked about helping the Kurds, please, even clicked on the sore Ankara.
  6. Svarog5570
    Svarog5570 10 December 2015 09: 16 New
    0
    finally started
    1. S_last
      S_last 10 December 2015 15: 43 New
      +2


      no, it’s been going on for a long time
  7. trenkkvaz
    trenkkvaz 10 December 2015 09: 18 New
    +6
    People, why are you happy?
    Turkey also supports Iraqi Kurds.
    These are not the Kurds.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 10 December 2015 09: 23 New
      +6
      That you tell the GDP where those Kurds, and where not those. He will explain to you.
      1. cniza
        cniza 10 December 2015 09: 34 New
        +4
        Quote: 1976AG
        That you tell the GDP where those Kurds, and where not those. He will explain to you.



        And what is there to explain, the Turks train the Peshmerga:
        Moscow provided military assistance to Iraqi Kurdish militia groups - the Peshmerge, Kommersant reports, citing the Kurdish edition of Rudaw.

        and their troops are in Iraqi Kurdistan.
        1. Bluesman
          Bluesman 10 December 2015 09: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          and their troops are in Iraqi Kurdistan.

          and quite fresh:
          President of Iraqi Kurdistan Masoud Barzani arrived on an official visit to Turkey yesterday, December 9.
          According to Kurdish media reports, the president has already met with the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and the Turkish Prime Minister, Ahmet Davutoglu. The main topics of their meetings were the current military and political problems of the region.
          For the first time in Turkish history, at the high-side meetings, the flag of Kurdistan was set next to Turkish and Iraqi.
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 10 December 2015 09: 55 New
            +5
            Erdogan's tricky plan is to take Mosul, declare himself, the United States and Barzani, the victors of the Islamic State and proclaim Kurdistan with all the oil in northern Iraq. Which will go to Turkey.

            Therefore, the Iraqis strained so hard. It is one thing if Barzani proclaims Kurdistan within the present borders (he has already reconciled), another with Mosul and heaps of Nineveh oil.
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    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 10 December 2015 09: 30 New
      +6
      I think the Kurds will quickly agree among themselves who is friend and who is enemy
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 10 December 2015 09: 53 New
        +6
        No. Here's an example now:

        Barzani kisses Erdoогan and receives help from the USA and Germany. It cuts Kurds from the PKK and gives those to Turkey that it catches at home. He also ordered a Turkish base for himself. And he, Barzani represents the vast majority of Iraqi Kurds.

        The southern Kurdish tribes (but in the north of Iraq) are on knives from Barzani and receive weapons from Shiites and Iraq. Most likely they are the heroes of this article, but they are few.

        Syrian Kurds are even more divided, those who in the Hasaki region, for example, pass IS bulk docks to Turkey for a stable rate from the car, and they also guard on the way. They are also in excellent relations with the Turks.

        The Kurds are really radical with respect to Turkey in the west of Syria - but they don’t break any weapons and instructors, so they hardly defend their enclave and still regularly take bombs from the Turks.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 10 December 2015 13: 15 New
          +2
          Hmmm ... most of all it reminds of the Balkans of the last year, last century.
          A separate room is occupied by the Balkans, but it is better not to meddle there - there is a rapid disassembly all the time, and heavy objects fly.

          I hope there is no Gavrilo Principle there.
      2. Bluesman
        Bluesman 10 December 2015 09: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        I think the Kurds will quickly agree among themselves who is friend and who is enemy

        I doubt very much. The Turks vigorously courted Barzani. And this figure is speculating and stuffing his own price. It was not in vain that he met with Steinmeier the other day, in November, with the Americans and Saudis, today with the Turks. Looking for profits.
    3. andj61
      andj61 10 December 2015 09: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: trenkkvaz
      People, why are you happy?
      Turkey also supports Iraqi Kurds.
      These are not the Kurds.

      There the devil will break his leg. And the Kurds also often happily slaughter each other, especially the PKK units and the very Peshmerga Barzani. But often the Peshmerga with the Turks was on knives. And in Iraq, there are also plenty of PKK troops.
    4. SSR
      SSR 10 December 2015 10: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: trenkkvaz
      People, why are you happy?
      Turkey also supports Iraqi Kurds.
      These are not the Kurds.

      And people did not read the article to the end))) but they are already recklessly flicking about asymmetry and kirdyk to Erdogan)))
    5. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 10 December 2015 10: 31 New
      +2
      Turkey also supports Iraqi Kurds.
      С тем, чтобы "своих курдов" из Турции переселить в Северный Курдистан в Ираке и покупать иракскую нефть у "дружественного государства" Северный Курдистан по кошерной цене и иметь свой гешефт.
  8. Wolka
    Wolka 10 December 2015 09: 21 New
    -5
    now you don’t have to be a prophet to understand how the GDP will take the favor from the Turks for the downed Su-24 ...
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 10 December 2015 11: 22 New
      +4
      Maybe you even know how you will take a debt from Ukraine?
  9. Cananecat
    Cananecat 10 December 2015 09: 25 New
    0
    The ice has broken, gentlemen of the jury ... (c)
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 10 December 2015 09: 44 New
      +4
      Quote: Canecat
      The ice has broken, gentlemen of the jury ... (c)

      which ice and where did it move?
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 10 December 2015 14: 12 New
        0
        And this is someone who has enough imagination. Some only have cons and enough. )))
  10. gukoyan
    gukoyan 10 December 2015 09: 28 New
    -4
    Well, now the Turks are drying x ... fair vengeance)))
    To arm Syrian Kurds and that’s all, you can destroy the terrorists)
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 10 December 2015 09: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: gukoyan
      Well, now the Turks are drying x ... fair vengeance)))

      rave. Barzani today in Ankara rubs with the Turks. Iraq side by side. What, nafig, revenge? Iraqi Kurds fighting the Turks are the fruit of an inflamed imagination. Barzani made it clear that the Kurds did not intend to tear the ass for Iraq.
  11. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 10 December 2015 09: 32 New
    +3
    let's see what happens. only time will tell what they set and how it affected the result. the joyful comments of the great strategists of this site are surprising. resemble the inhabitants
    цензора с из постоянными "перемогами и зрадами".
    1. Riv
      Riv 10 December 2015 09: 35 New
      +2
      But really a pleasant fact. Machine guns, or ATGMs are not expensive, and there can be many benefits in the hands of the Kurds.
      Here are tanks, or MANPADS, of course, they should not be taken.
      1. kill the fascist
        kill the fascist 10 December 2015 10: 33 New
        +1
        I will not argue - a trifle, but nice (given the favor for the deceased pilot and sailor). Let's see what Erdogash answers, he will answer. The Kurdish card of the Russian Federation could be played a long time ago, but the leadership of the Russian Federation played honestly with the Turks, and they all this time courted, treated, taught Caucasian banditry.
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  12. Riv
    Riv 10 December 2015 09: 33 New
    -3
    Knowing Shoigu, we can assume that in addition to small arms, the Kurds also received something recoilless, from old stocks ...
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 10 December 2015 10: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: Riv
      Knowing Shoigu, we can assume that in addition to small arms, the Kurds also received something recoilless, from old stocks ...

      Do you know Shoigu? However...
      1. Riv
        Riv 10 December 2015 21: 44 New
        0
        Envy? A man is known by his deeds.
  13. Woodman
    Woodman 10 December 2015 09: 34 New
    -1
    Great move !!! With the consent of Iraq, to ​​arm the Iraqi Kurds, from which some Turkish Kurds will quickly get some weapons ... Moreover, it seems that the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds after the defeat of the Islamic State have a real chance to get autonomy within the framework of their states, and this is for the Turks, if they have their own Kurds like a sickle on ... for tomatoes)))
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 10 December 2015 10: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Lesovik
      the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds after the defeat of the Islamic State have a real chance to get autonomy in the framework of their states

      It seems to me that the Iraqi Kurds already have autonomy, regardless of the Islamic State.
  14. sgr291158
    sgr291158 10 December 2015 09: 34 New
    -2
    I do not envy the Turks.
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  17. Winter cherry
    Winter cherry 10 December 2015 09: 36 New
    11
    We will help the Kurds in the fight against ISIS.
    1. ermak.sidorov
      ermak.sidorov 12 December 2015 19: 17 New
      0
      Nothing so fucked up guy good
      По-моему в фильме "Вирус" один товарищ сказал "Никогда не бывает слишком много трёх вещей -времени, денег и оружия!"
  18. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 10 December 2015 09: 36 New
    +3
    Iraqi Kurdistan is part of Iraq, and military-technical cooperation with it is carried out exclusively through Baghdad
    Here try to get to the bottom, and you can’t argue.
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus 10 December 2015 09: 37 New
    +1
    But nefig was the Turkish face in Iraq to climb ...
    I won’t be very surprised if soon the Kurds begin to land the Turkish Air Force en masse.
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 10 December 2015 09: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Zomanus
      I won’t be very surprised if soon the Kurds begin to land the Turkish Air Force en masse.

      with what fright? The Iraqi Kurds with the Turks are all nishtyak.
  20. kirpich
    kirpich 10 December 2015 09: 41 New
    +1
    The list of supplied weapons is not given, only the small arms party is known.

    Small arms are not limited to machine guns and machine guns ... there are a lot of interesting things there. wink
  21. Belarus
    Belarus 10 December 2015 09: 41 New
    +3
    The fact that they helped Iraqi Kurds this is certainly good.But Kurds in Syria and Kurds in Iraq are two big differences.Americans even cooperate with Iraqi Kurds, and in my opinion the fact that Russia supplied them with small arms is not surprising. And Turkey does not care what they are doing in Iraq and what they are doing Iraqi Kurds.Turkey is much more concerned with the Kurds in Syria and their Turkish - that’s what would infuriate the Turks was military aid to the Kurds in Syria and not in Iraq.
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 10 December 2015 10: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Belarus
      that’s what would infuriate the Turks was military aid to the Kurds in Syria and not in Iraq.

      and how do you imagine such separate assistance to the Syrian Kurds? Directly, bypassing Assad? Good understanding of allied relations.
  22. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 10 December 2015 09: 43 New
    +1
    You can cooperate with all the more or less adequate formations that are not stained with the blood of civilians and other crimes, the main thing is to come to an agreement in the fight against common evil! Thus, Russia is becoming more and more actively involved in the Middle East settlement process and is forming long-term partnerships. This is always welcome.
  23. Snail N9
    Snail N9 10 December 2015 09: 45 New
    +4
    Quote: War and Peace
    form on the territory of Russia the First International Kurdish Panzer Division named after Stalin and Ankara pin_dosov push ...

    Зачем "больных" на сайте регистрируют? А сколько, подобных им, еще и "плюсы" ставят...
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 10 December 2015 10: 26 New
      0
      You, still about Fomenko, apparently have not read. Yes, I almost forgot, the Jews are still to blame.
      А, если почти серьезно, вот говорят "диванные стратеги". Если почитать недавние комментарии на форуме, то о том, что оружие будут курдам поставлять, многие писали.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 10 December 2015 11: 07 New
        0
        Quote: avva2012
        Yes, I almost forgot, yet Jews are to blame.

        By the way, we have ice ... This is also they, this is the most...?
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 10 December 2015 11: 41 New
          0
          Do not cut out of context, otherwise the people will not think it right.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 10 December 2015 13: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: avva2012
        You, still about Fomenko, apparently have not read. Yes, I almost forgot, the Jews are still to blame.

        И cyclists English with Americans.
        These are their bad devils
        Bermuta water in the pond
        Churchill came up with it all
        In the eighteenth year!
    2. sisa29
      sisa29 10 December 2015 11: 34 New
      +2
      А Вы разве еще не поняли что на этом ресурсе приветствуется патриотизм, пусть иногда и с душком тупизны. А вот стоит Вам усомнится что мы "всех порвем" " у нас есть хитрый план" или "война в Сирии обходится дешевле учений" вас тут же закидают тухлыми яйцами, назовут продажным евреем.
      But after reading your comments you can see that you are a thinking person
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 10 December 2015 11: 48 New
        +1
        Спасибо. Термина "продажный еврей" не понимаю. Может, все дело в советском воспитании?
      2. Kaiten
        Kaiten 10 December 2015 14: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: sisa29
        venal jew

        I wonder how often in everyday speech in Russia, you can hear such epithets?
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 10 December 2015 15: 32 New
          +1
          Watching where. In Siberia, somehow it did not take root.
        2. sisa29
          sisa29 10 December 2015 15: 49 New
          +3
          In Arkhangelsk the same can not be heard. It’s not very popular among us to talk about Jews, maybe just a little. But in VO people really love to blame Israel for all sins and its sons. I already argued a lot on this topic. It was that I was written down as a Jew for views, but alas, the origin is not that, Pomor. But unlike many visitors to the site, I had a chance to live a month in Izrail. Now I respect this country and the Jews themselves
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 10 December 2015 16: 07 New
            +2
            Здесь пятый пункт, вообще не причем. Люди собираются разные, есть чем-то обиженные (ну, в детстве,хулиганы прохода не давали) или еще что. Агрессия ни куда не делась, на улицу не выйдешь, в морду не дашь (а нам то за что?), поэтому ее (агрессию), надо куда-то канализировать. Для этого, есть, один подьем переворотом, "это они все хотят мне что-то плохо сделать, а не я". Кто, они? Да какая разница. Евреи (очень хорошо), "ты, что такой умный, интеллигент што ли?!". Путин(образ отца), подойдет , "почему, меня в детстве не защитил?". Историки, так, то, вообще шарлатаны. К Фоменко в подметки не годятся. Фоменко читаешь, все понятно (а, он, математик, ни хухры мумры), а какого-то Соловьева Сергея Михайловича, ну, вообще спать охота (может немцами подкуплен?). Где-то так, товарищи. Спасибо, за понимание.
            1. sisa29
              sisa29 10 December 2015 16: 18 New
              +2
              Thank you, good comment.
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 10 December 2015 16: 42 New
                0
                "Для смотрящих в бездну. Помни, бездна, смотрит в тебя". Ненависть, ни к чему хорошему не приводила. Н-да, что-то меня понесло. Спасибо.
          2. Kaiten
            Kaiten 10 December 2015 17: 06 New
            +3
            Quote: sisa29
            But in VO people really love to blame Israel for all sins and its sons.

            There is a little ... It always seemed to me that a certain proportion of anti-Semitism is characteristic not only of ordinary people, but of people with a claim to intelligence. And his main reason is the competition with Jews in certain areas of mental labor.
            1. sisa29
              sisa29 10 December 2015 17: 27 New
              +2
              In short, envy!
            2. avva2012
              avva2012 10 December 2015 17: 31 New
              +2
              that a certain proportion of anti-Semitism is not typical for ordinary people,
              Вот, только именно, эти "простые люди" и занимались уничтожением евреев. При чем с большим энтузиазмом. Пишут в Литве, даже нацисты, пытались угомонить местных борцов, "хоть какие-то приличия соблюдайте, не надо на куче трупов петь литовский гимн".
            3. Sorokin
              Sorokin 11 December 2015 08: 56 New
              +2
              Oh yes complete nonsense. With my hands the Jews next to me worked on the machine and how they worked!
        3. Sorokin
          Sorokin 11 December 2015 08: 45 New
          0
          There are no such epithets in conversations. Well, there are many Jews in the Urals themselves, not just for their mothers. Something like this.
  24. AlexTires
    AlexTires 10 December 2015 09: 50 New
    0
    So I would like to say that our FINALLY understood that the Kurds are a significant factor in anti-NATO policy, and having started talking to them (cuddling with weapons) made a big step forward in leaching out Tang teeth in the region, if not for one thing: Iraqi Kurds - no one can call them in any way, for they occupy a pro-Turkish position, unlike the Iranian, Syrian and, all the more, attention, Turkish Kurds.
  25. Foxbed
    Foxbed 10 December 2015 10: 01 New
    0
    Новость -ОТЛИЧНАЯ!Вот еще бы Курдам "случайно" от Иракской армии в руки попал "панцырь С-1".Или ,на худой конец С-75-было бы парням повеселее! wink
  26. Bluesman
    Bluesman 10 December 2015 10: 03 New
    0
    "Помощь" не была адресована курдам. Получил её Багдад и распределил по своему усмотрению. Так что писать "Россия вооружает курдов" по меньшей мере глупо.
  27. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 10 December 2015 10: 04 New
    0
    It is right that weapons are not directly, but through Baghdad!
    First: The unity of the country is emphasized.
    Secondly: She has a common enemy and a united struggle with him.
    Third: Any aggression against the Kurds in Iraq will be regarded as aggression against Iraq itself!
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 10 December 2015 10: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Ruswolf
      First: The unity of the country is emphasized.

      who needs these underscores? It is enough for Kurdistan to declare its independence, and Iraq will fall apart, underline, do not underline.
      Quote: Ruswolf
      about the second: She has a common enemy and a single struggle with him.

      в данном случае - кого имеете в виду? ИГ? Что-то сосбо "образ общего врага" никого не сплотил пока. Временные гешефты не в счет.
      Quote: Ruswolf
      Third: Any aggression against the Kurds in Iraq will be regarded as aggression against Iraq itself!

      и что сделает Ирак? Побубнит в Сов.Безе о "решительном протесте" и "недопустимости"? Хитрый Эрди использует курдов, чтобы влезть в Ирак и контролировать Найнаву, которую считает своей. Ирак сейчас - колосс на глиняных ногах, на что очень надеется Эрди. Чтобы, когда Ирак начнет разваливаться, удержать под своим протекторатом то, что считает турецким, "незаконно" отнятым после ПМВ.
  28. Mera joota
    Mera joota 10 December 2015 10: 06 New
    +1
    Well then Peshmerga with the Turks is normal, it's not the PKK. Maybe the journalist was wrong? Sense to give the Peshmerge weapons against the Turks if they do not fight the Turks
    The joy of local commentators is understandable, but most of them do not understand that far from all Kurds are antagonists to the Turks, moreover, inside themselves, the Kurds are far from united and bite regularly.
  29. Tanker55
    Tanker55 10 December 2015 10: 15 New
    0
    Let's start with machine guns and grenades, and then we'll see if we teach something more interesting.
  30. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 10 December 2015 10: 16 New
    0
    Apparently, it was our Kurds who provided weapons that are more in line with our policy? Not just anyone, it’s worth watching, where and how this weapon will manifest itself.
    Though you hang a map of the house and mark it with flags, draw arrows. And then the brains go crazy, who is where.
  31. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 10 December 2015 10: 36 New
    +2
    Москва не станет "бить исподтишка" и разыгрывать карту Иракского Курдистана в нынешнем противостоянии с Анкарой»

    Разумеется, Москва не станет "бить исподтишка", а честно и открыто окажет военную помощь курдам.
    No Iraqi Kurdistan card will be played. The card of Iraqi-Turkish-Syrian Kurdistan will be played.
    So, you can’t argue with experts.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 10 December 2015 11: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Polite Elk
      The card of Iraqi-Turkish-Syrian Kurdistan will be played.

      And what is the Iranian part there?
      1. Bluesman
        Bluesman 10 December 2015 13: 15 New
        0
        Quote: sa-ag
        And what is the Iranian part there?

        а вот тут интересно) Иранский курд Язданпана, так умиляющий здешних комментаторов своей внешней схожестью с Иосифом Виссарионычем, говорит о том, что ИРИ имет виды на Мосул и Киркук в качестве зон своего влияния, а руководимая персами шиитская группировка "Хашд аль-Шааби" притесняет курдов в Туз Хурмату, где даже были боестолкновения между пешмерга и шиитскими ополченцами. Даже была инфа о непосредственном участии 23-х иранских снайперов. Так что, с линейным мышлением к этому бардаку на БВ лучше не подходить)
  32. veksha50
    veksha50 10 December 2015 10: 46 New
    0
    "Главное условие любой помощи иракской курдской автономии со стороны Москвы – don't quarrel with Baghdad"...

    The difficult situation ...

    To annoy the Turks, and even not with their own hands, it is enough to provide the Kurds with weapons as much as possible ... Well, this is if you do not look to the future, since in any case they will not calm down until they get their internationally recognized territory .. Well, it is still unknown where the feeling of euphoria from victory can take them ...

    And on the other hand - unwillingness to quarrel with Baghdad ...

    Unfortunately, nobody has managed to sit on one toilet on two toilets yet, and Russia will have to make some cardinal decision ... Just to not be late ...
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 10 December 2015 10: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: veksha50
      To annoy the Turks, and even not with their own hands, it is enough to provide the Kurds with weapons as much as possible ...

      иракский Курдистан - креатура американская, пусть они и обеспечивают. А вообще оборот оружия на БВ таков, что "максимально обеспечиться" можно и без нас. Были бы спонсоры. А судя по последним вояжам Барзани, он их нашел на берегу Персидского залива. Или, если угодно, Арабского. А теперь и в Анкаре.
  33. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 10 December 2015 10: 47 New
    +1
    Such a pancake porridge brewed there ... And is it really possible to put things in order there at least sometime? At the same time, not burying 90% of the population in the sand. Everyone cuts everyone. And this is only the beginning.
  34. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 10 December 2015 10: 50 New
    +1
    First you need to figure out: to whom to give Russian weapons and of course, for what purposes.
  35. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 10 December 2015 10: 51 New
    +1
    What is going on with the Kurds. In Iraq, they are friends of Americans and Russia. In Turkey, there are official terrorists who are nice to poison with something. In Syria - the allies of Russia, or are going to become them (but not the United States).
  36. avva2012
    avva2012 10 December 2015 10: 55 New
    -2
    The amount of arms delivered is approximately $ 1,7 billion, ”the newspaper recalls.
    Это только меня поразило или нет. Откуда у Ирака, такие деньги? И, почему у США, они не покупают, ведь "освободители". Вот и курды ихние с турками "дружат". Отвал башки какой-то. Точно, "восток дело тонкое".
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 10 December 2015 12: 04 New
      0
      Quote: avva2012
      Where did Iraq get that kind of money?

      but what, it seems to you that for a country producing hydrocarbons, this figure is unbearable?
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 10 December 2015 12: 05 New
      +1
      "Откуда у Ирака, такие деньги?"/////

      How - where? Iraq is one of the largest oil exporters.
      There are large deposits in the Basra region. Only live there
      Shiites, the IG did not go there. Since the war of 2003 (there were British troops,
      which Shiites took with bread and salt) Shiites drive oil
      for yourself at your pleasure.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 10 December 2015 15: 30 New
        0
        It became somehow familiar that the United States had a very raking rake. Rumor has it that all Iraqi oil fields are already at the Amer and guard their PMCs.
        About the British, there is little information, so thank you for the information. One secret has become less.
  37. 31rus
    31rus 10 December 2015 10: 58 New
    0
    Dear, what the doctor ordered, as soon as you want to arm the militants with something like a MANPADS, there will immediately be an answer, moreover, more adequate
  38. pts-m
    pts-m 10 December 2015 10: 59 New
    0
    Russia needs to move, otherwise the Yankees will move there. Then there is only one excuse, but there’s nothing to be gained from them.
  39. potalevl
    potalevl 10 December 2015 11: 20 New
    0
    Moscow in Iraq cooperates only with Baghdad, since only the interim government of Iraq is interested in the complete liberation of the country from ISIS, and Barzani is only interested in ISIS not climbing into Kurdish territory, and therefore the Peshmerga is fighting only from defense. Baghdad is forced to give Barzani’s weapons in order not to lose at least such an ally; only the Iranian Kurds in alliance with the PKK can push Iraqi Kurds to completely liberate Iraq from ISIS and Ankara, and for this Barzani must be convinced or find a worthy replacement for him. I think somehow.
  40. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 10 December 2015 13: 07 New
    0
    Interesting article. Pretty straightforward, honest and specific enough. hi
  41. samara-58
    samara-58 10 December 2015 13: 10 New
    0
    The more we give, the more perdogan will get !!! fellow
  42. Vvp
    Vvp 10 December 2015 13: 29 New
    0
    The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Kurds are effectively opposed to Daesh and, together, pose a real threat to Erdogan, so any help to the Kurds will be useful. Moreover, if assistance is provided as part of int. rights.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 11 December 2015 19: 44 New
      0
      That's why mattress covers run into trouble around the world! The enemy of my enemy will never be my friend! Better a good enemy than a bad friend!
    2. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 11 December 2015 19: 44 New
      0
      That's why mattress covers run into trouble around the world! The enemy of my enemy will never be my friend! Better a good enemy than a bad friend!
  43. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 10 December 2015 16: 39 New
    0
    Quote: war and peace
    to form on the territory of Russia the First International Kurdish Tank Division to them. Stalin and Ankara pin_dosov push ...

    Two are better. And the Air Defense Regiment in addition
  44. NDA
    NDA 11 December 2015 15: 14 New
    0
    Russia supplies them with small arms. And the United States has 200 nuclear bombs in Germany and Turkey. (link http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201512111357-1ifp.htm)And now the question is .... What - For - What ???
  45. Old warrior
    Old warrior 11 December 2015 16: 15 New
    0
    Quote: V.ic
    Quote: Air Force Captain
    from papier-mâché

    It turns out from the ass Masha? For information: (fr.) Papier-mache.


    Well, here it’s probably still not our machine, but their Magrri (strongly grassing) ... repeat
  46. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 11 December 2015 17: 36 New
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    I would like to note with caution: the prompt and coordinated work of our various departments: the Defense Ministry, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, etc., pleases. It seems that no one shook up too much, and they correctly turned everything around, and promptly (if possible). yes
  47. friend of animals
    friend of animals 11 December 2015 18: 41 New
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    Yeah, I wonder who the first one will stop in escalating the situation.
  48. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 11 December 2015 19: 33 New
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    Иногда очень хочется что бы Россия не была такой выдержанной и хорошей для своих "партнёров"! request
  49. Orionvit
    Orionvit 11 December 2015 22: 03 New
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    Quote: war and peace
    Quote: veksha50
    Quote: War and Peace
    to form on the territory of Russia the First International Kurdish Tank Division to them. Stalin and Ankara pin_dosov push ...



    Well, for sure, war and peace ... A statement corresponds to a nickname ...

    I put a plus for a successful fantastic pun ...


    for you, politics is a game of pretense, a lot of talk, a lot of fake feelings for the public, but when the death of Russian soldiers there is a loss of state prestige and every evil little thing like Turkey, Poland or Ukraine can not only afford to spit in the direction of RUSSIA, but also shoot in the back, and in response, Russia confines itself to breaking the tourism business instead of answering adequately — death for death — such news about the arming of the Kurds allows us to hope finally that in the Kremlin, not only thunder and lightning will be thrown, but finally take steps that really make Russia respect ...

    Надеюсь, что вооружение курдов не бесплатно. Хватит, Советский Союз весь соцлагерь(и не только) бесплатно снабжал, кормил, одевал, и.т.д. Теперь ни одна сволочь из бывших "друзей' об этом не вспоминают, а это были наши ресурсы и наш труд. Пора и честь знать, хотите оружие- платите, ну может в плане бонуса поддержим вас политически, а даром за амбаром. Знаем, проходили, много желающих за счёт России свои дела порешать.
  50. Grandfather Eugene
    Grandfather Eugene 12 December 2015 01: 48 New
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    And then what? What is the forecast?