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Dzomgi airfield

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Among the residents of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, the name "Dziomgi" is primarily associated with the Leninsky urban district, as Komsomol residents call this area of ​​the city among themselves. The very same word "Dzemgi" is of Nanai origin and is translated as "Birch Grove". Prior to the construction of the city in 1932, there was a camp for the native inhabitants of the Amur Region, the Nanais, in this area.

The purpose of building a new Far East city on the bank of the Amur was the creation of a large military-industrial center and the development of sparsely populated areas. At the design stage, in the area of ​​the village of Permskoe, on the site of which the city began to be built, it was planned to build an aviation, shipbuilding and metallurgical works (Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production Association).

Initially, the site for the construction of aircraft plant number XXUMX, despite warnings from the local population, was chosen poorly. The high autumn flood of 126 of the year partially destroyed the stored building materials and flooded the foundation pit prepared for laying the foundation of the main building and the runway of the aerodrome under construction.

The management of the construction site made the appropriate conclusions and moved the new factory site and the runway to a higher place 5 km north of the previous location.

A great contribution to the construction of the plant, and the whole of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, was made by military builders. They began to arrive at the end of 1934, some of them, in the absence of a transport connection, in winter time reached the construction site on skis on the ice of Cupid. Anyone who is familiar with the Far Eastern climate will certainly appreciate this feat without exaggeration, moreover, the distance between Komsomolsk-on-Amur and Khabarovsk is approximately 400 km.

By the end of 1935, the builders erected several main and auxiliary workshops, after which the installation of the equipment began. Simultaneously, preparations were made for the assembly of aircraft. The first aircraft built in 1936 in Komsomolsk was the long-range reconnaissance aircraft P-6 (ANT-7), designed by A.N. Tupolev. This aircraft had a lot in common with the first Soviet all-metal twin-engined monoplane TB-1 bomber. By the standards of the end of the 30-s, the P-6 was certainly considered obsolete, but it allowed the Far Eastern aircraft manufacturers to accumulate the necessary experience. By the time of readiness for departure of the first P-6 built, the take-off factory line was not yet finished. Therefore, for testing, the plane was equipped with floats and took off from the water surface of the Amur River.


Scout P-6


Unfortunately, we could not find exact data regarding the date of commissioning of the factory runway. Most likely this happened in the second half of 1936. In any case, most of the P-6 aircraft built in Komsomolsk had a wheeled chassis. In total, by the end of 1937, 20 machines were assembled at the factory. The few remaining at the factory P-6 in 1938 were used when performing regular flights between Komsomolsk-on-Amur and Khabarovsk. At the end of 30-x on Dzemgi he began acting Aero Club, where there were four aircraft On-2.

In May, the 1936 of the year the factory received instructions to start the production of long-range bombers designed by S.V. Ilyushin DB-3, in those times it was a fairly perfect aircraft, corresponding to the level of foreign analogues. Despite numerous objective and subjective difficulties in 1938, the factory team was able to deliver military aircraft 30. In 1939, the factory already built 100 bombers. In the first months of the year 1941 the construction of torpedo-3T DB and DB-3PT. In the future, there was a gradual transition to the production of DB-3F (IL-4).


Monument IL-4 on the territory of the plant


During the war years, the production capacity of the aircraft factory and labor productivity at the enterprise increased significantly. The annual volume of aircraft handed over during this period increased by more than 2,5 times, while the number of workers remained at the pre-war level. Total plant number 126 in Komsomolsk-on-Amur put the front of the 2757 IL-4 bombers.

In the middle of 1945 of the year, in connection with the transition to the “peaceful rails”, preparations began to master the serial production of the Li-2 aircraft. This aircraft was a Soviet licensed version of the American transport and passenger aircraft DC-3 (C-47) of the company "Douglas". The first batch of aircraft was released in 1947 year. In two years, a total built aircraft Lee 435-2, 15 of which - in the passenger version.

At the end of 1947, the MiG-15 jet fighter first flew into the air. This aircraft, which later became widely known, was created in the design bureau A.I. Mikoyan and M.I. Gurevich. In 1949, preparations for its construction began at the aircraft plant in Komsomolsk.

In 1952, the series launched a more advanced MiG-17. Establishing production of fighter jets required qualitative upgrade of production capacity aircraft factory, large-scale construction of new production facilities and reconstruction of existing ones. The delivery of MiG-17F fighters abroad has become the export debut of the plant.

By that time, the factory runway no longer met modern requirements. For testing and normal operation of modern jet-winged vehicles, a hard-surfaced runway was required. The construction of the concrete runway coincided in time with the beginning of the process of mastering the production of a new supersonic aircraft of the PO PO Design Bureau Dry.

In the spring of 1958, the first supersonic Su-7 was handed over to military acceptance. The commencement of the production of Su-brand combat vehicles came with great difficulties, which the factory’s team overcame with honor. During the mass production of the Su-7 developed 15 modifications of this aircraft. The most widespread fighter bomber Su-7B and Su-7BM. In 1964, their exports began.

Evolutionary line of development of the Su-7 has become a fighter-bomber with a variable geometry of the wing Su-17. The variable sweep wing made it possible to improve the landing characteristics and select the optimum sweep depending on the flight profile, but at the same time such a scheme significantly complicated the design of the aircraft.

Dzomgi airfield

Su-17 assembly line


Construction of various modifications of the Su-17 for the USSR Air Force and export variants of the Su-20, Su-22, Su-22M at the plant, which became known as Komsomolsky-on-Amur aviation plant them. Yu.A. Gagarin ”lasted until the beginning of the 90s. In parallel with the production of fighter-bombers, the plant was assembling anti-ship cruise missiles P-6 and Amethyst for arming submarines. By cooperation, the tail parts of the fuselage with plumage and the rotary parts of the wing for the Su-24 were delivered to Novosibirsk.

In 1984, deliveries of the serial Su-27 began. One of the first Su-27 fighters began to master the pilots of the 60-iap. This fighter air regiment, covering Komsomolsk-on-Amur for a long time, shared the runway with the plant.

The first I-16 fighters appeared on the Dzyomga in the 1939 year, then this fighter aviation unit was part of the 31 th aviation brigade. At the beginning of 1945, the regiment was completely re-equipped with Yak-9 fighters. During the Soviet-Japanese war, the pilots of the Dzerom air regiment took part in the Sungarii offensive and the South-Sakhalin operations.

In 1951, the regiment finally switched from piston fighters to jet MiG-15. In the first half of 1955, they were replaced by MiG-17 fighters, which soon added to the patrolling interceptor Yak-25 fighters with the Emerald radar.

In the 1969 year, the 60-iap was reequipped with supersonic Su-15 interceptors that had flown from Dzemgi airfield for about 20 years. In the 70-ies, the Yak-28P interceptors were based on the Dzomgi for a while, but it was not possible to establish whether they belonged to the 60-iap or other aviation units. In any case, at the beginning of the 90-x at the storage base, located at the airfield Khurba under Komsomolsk, there were Yak-28P.

Despite the fact that the 60 th iap switched to the Su-27 one of the first, the Su-15 fighter-interceptors on the Dzyomga were used as early as the 1990 year. Particularly impressive were the night flights, when the Su-15, taking off in the afterburner with jets of flame beating from jet engines, literally sank into the dark sky like rockets. Shortly before the decommissioning of the Su-15, it was possible to observe very complex aerobatic maneuvers that the pilots spun on vehicles suitable for conducting an agile air combat, not far from the airfield — over the Old Platform and the Amur River.

In August, 2001 of the year, during the regular reforming of the armed forces, the 60 th fighter regiment was merged with the 3rd-level Kutuzov Order III Fighter Regiment of 404. As a result of the unification, the 23 th "Tallinn" Fighter Aviation Order of the Kutuzov Third Class was formed, based on the Dzyomgi airfield. 23 th iap became the head for many new and upgraded cars brand "Su".

The aircraft Su-27 became the base for the whole family of single and double fighters such as Su-27SK, 27SKM Su-Su-33, 27SM Su-Su-30MK, 30MK2 Su-Su-30M2, Su-35S. Machines created on the basis of the Su-27, were widely exported and are currently the main fighter of the Russian Air Force. Specialists of the Komsomolsk aircraft factory made a great contribution to the establishment of Su-27SK production in the PRC, at an aircraft factory in Shenyang.

In 90-s at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Yu.A. Gagarin, in the framework of the defense industry conversion program, work began on civil aviation topics. Prior to that, combat aircraft were considered the main products of the enterprise, and for the population, Amur boats, bicycles and washing machines were produced.

In September 2001 of the year made the first flight of the Su-80. At the design stage, it was assumed that in the passenger version it would replace the Yak-40 and An-24 on local airlines, and in the An-26 cargo airline.


Su-80


Advantages of the turboprop Su-80 are considered to be good take-off and landing characteristics and the ability to fly from unequipped airfields. This allowed to operate the Su-80 from unprepared airfields and short, including unpaved lanes. If necessary, it was possible to quickly convert from the passenger version to the cargo version. Su-80 was supposed to provide an acceptable by modern standards level of comfort for passengers and high transport efficiency of air transportation with minimal operating costs. If necessary, the aircraft could be used as a light military transport or patrol. The presence of a cargo ramp on the Su-80 allows for the transportation of automotive vehicles and standard aircraft containers.

The Su-80 aircraft passed factory acceptance tests at KnAAPO and was preparing for transfer to the OKB for development tests, but soon the program was stopped. According to the official version, this is due to the use of imported components and assemblies - American-made engines and French generators. But it seems that Su-80 has become uninteresting to the plant and developer due to the preparation for production, promising great benefits, the short-haul passenger aircraft Sukhoi Superjet 100.


Be-103


The same fate befell the light amphibious aircraft Be-103. Its production continued from 1997 to 2004 year. Several cars of this type have been sold to the USA and Canada. At the moment, the release of the Be-103 is terminated, and all work on it is minimized. On the territory of the plant is still 16 amphibians, which did not find a buyer.

19 May 2008 of the year from the runway of the airfield Dzemgi for the first time took off the short-haul passenger aircraft Sukhoi Superjet 100. It was developed by Sukhoi Civil Aircraft (GSS) with the participation of foreign companies Thales, PowerJet and B / E Aerospace. The share of foreign components in this aircraft is very large.


Aircraft Sukhoi Superjet 100 at the Dzemgi airfield during the celebration of the aviation plant's 80 anniversary (photo of the author).

In 2011, deliveries of the airliner began to Russian and foreign customers. Currently, more than 100 Superjet-100 units have been produced.

In January 2013, the aircraft plant as a branch of the company entered into the company "Sukhoi" and became known as the branch of the company "Sukhoi" "Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Yu.A. Gagarin "(KnAAZ). Over the years, the plant has built more than 12 000 airplanes for various purposes on it. Since the beginning of 60-ies, the company has been the main producer of Su-brand combat aircraft. Along with the production of new equipment at KnAAZ, repairs and upgrading of previously produced vehicles, which were in service with the fighter aviation regiments of the Air Force and Russian Navy, are underway.

Over the past ten years, several dozen capitally repaired and modernized Su-27CMs have been transferred to the troops. Su-27CM3 fighters were built on the basis of export Su-27SK. Unlike the Su-27С and Su-27П fighters, which initially entered our Air Force, the upgraded Su-27СМ and Su-27СМ3 fighters have a more sophisticated weapon control system and new radar aiming system and an optical-electronic aiming system. These airplanes are equipped with multi-functional monitors, a display system on the windshield and a new helmet-mounted target designation system. Upgraded fighters are able to use air-to-surface guided weapons, including anti-ship missiles. Su-27M3 has a reinforced airframe design and new AL-31F-М1 engines with 13 500 kgf thrust. Before the advent of the Su-35S, the Su-27CM and Su-27CM3 fighters were the most advanced single-seat combat vehicles in the Russian Air Force.


Su-27SM fighter at the Dzemgi airfield (author photo)


Since 2002, KnAAZ underwent repair and modernization of nineteen Su-33 carrier-based fighter aircraft, which are part of the air group (279th kiap) of the currently only Russian aircraft carrier Admiral fleet Soviet Union Kuznetsov. " In the future, it is planned to modernize several more Su-33s.

By deep modernization on the basis of a combat training Su-27UB, a double fighter Su-30 was created. This aircraft, compared with the Su-27, has a greater flight range and more advanced avionics. The following modifications were made on KnAAZ: Su-30MK, Su-30МК2, Su-30МКК, Su-30МКВ, Su-30МК2-V, Su-30М2. All options, except the last, are export. As of the end of 2014, the X-NUMX of the Su-16-30 fighters was delivered to the Russian Air Force.

In October, the 2008 of the year, the Su-35С fighter, built on KnAAZ in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, took off the airfield of Dzyomgi. In 2009, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ordered the 48 Su-35С multifunctional fighter jets.

Largely repeated история thirty years ago with the commissioning and fine-tuning of the Su-27 fighter. The Fighter Aviation Regiment, based at the Dzyomgi airfield, again became the headquarters when the new fighter was commissioned. This is justified, given that the manufacturing plant is located within walking distance. If necessary, this makes it possible to repair and rework the still “raw” Su-35С in the factory, with the participation of representatives of the design bureau.


Su-35S fighters at the Dzemgi airfield (author photo)


The Su-35С fighters built by 2010-2013, which are in service with the 23-iap on Dzemgas, have a two-tone color scheme with a blue bottom and a dark gray top. Su-35C is a further development option for the Su-27 fighter. During its creation, the long-term operating experience of the Su-27 was taken into account and the combat capabilities were significantly increased. The glider of the Su-35С fighter compared to the Su-27 is enhanced and the volume of fuel tanks increased. The new fighter has an advanced information command system, a radar with a passive HEADLIGHT of the H035 Irbis, as well as new AL-41F1 engines with a plasma ignition system and thrust vector control.



At the end of January, the Dzomog 2010 for the first time took off a fifth-generation prototype of the PAK FA T-50 fighter built on the KnAAZ. At present, nine flight prototypes and two samples for passing ground and strength tests have been built for testing.


Satellite image of Google earth: aircraft T-50 on the territory of KnAAZ


Thus, the runway and infrastructure of the Dzemgi airfield are actively used by both the aircraft building plant and the fighter regiment. As part of the aviation park KnAAZ there are airplanes: Tu-154, An-12, Su-80, Be-103. Until recently, the plant operated explosives Su-17UM3, used for training purposes. A remarkable fact is that the Su-17 fighter-bombers of all modifications were officially decommissioned by the Russian Air Force at the end of the 90's. The maintenance of the Su-17UM3 in flight, the production of which was completed at the Komsomolsk aircraft factory more than 25 years ago, was possible due to the availability of qualified technical personnel and a large stock of spare parts.


Satellite image of Google earth: aircraft parking in KnAAZ


The 23-iap has fighters in service: Su-27CM, Su-30М2 and Su-35С. In November 2015, as part of the implementation of the state defense order, the next batch of Su-35С was transferred to the military. According to the plans of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to the beginning of 2016, the 23 of the IAP at the Dzemgi airfield should be: 16 Su-27CM, 3 Su-30М2 and 24 Su-35С.


Satellite image of Google earth: 23 th iap airplanes at Dzomgi airfield


Aviation holidays are regularly held on the airfield, where various types of aircraft are shown and demonstration flights are conducted.


Exhibition of aviation technology during the celebration of the 80 anniversary of the aviation plant (photo of the author)


The last one is dedicated to the celebration of the 80 anniversary of the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Factory 16 August 2014 (Aviation celebration dedicated to the 80 anniversary of the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aviation plant).



During the demonstration flights there was an incident that could well end in an accident or even a disaster. Su-35S, belonging to the 23-iap b / n 08 "red", when landing due to an error, the pilot touched the tip of the wing of the concrete runway. Fortunately, everything went without serious consequences, and many viewers did not even understand what had happened.

Unfortunately, not all the aviation technology incidents at the Dzyomga aerodrome ended so well. October 19 The X-NUMX of the year An-1987BK, which belonged to KnAAPO, crashed while trying to take off in difficult weather conditions. As it was established by the commission that conducted the investigation, the main causes of the disaster were poor-quality cleaning of the runway from snow and overload of the aircraft. During takeoff, a strong fair wind was blowing, visibility due to the dark time of day was limited.
As a result, the plane, having broken away from the runway at the very end of it, touched the landing gear struts for the antennas of the radio engineering equipment of the airfield and, having collected the fence, crashed into the garage in which there were vehicles-tankers, and then exploded. The crash killed 5 crew members and passenger 4.

Relatively recently, 27 on April 2009, during taxiing and speedy jogging, left the band and encountered a prototype Su-35. As a result of the accident, the plane was completely destroyed and burned. The test pilot managed to eject and was not injured. Fortunately, this incident had no significant effect on the timing of the tests and the process of launching into mass production.

According to the register of the Federal Agency of Air Transport, Dzyomgi airfield is classified as international. It is equipped with two short-range navigation stations (RSBN), a course-heading system 1 category, surveillance radars, light-signal systems. The runway dimensions are 2480 × 80 m. The airfield can receive almost all types of aircraft up to the An-124 “Ruslan” inclusive.

The airfield of joint basing Dzomgi played, and will no doubt continue to play a large role in ensuring the defense capability of our country. Its value increased especially after the "reforming" and "giving a new look" to the armed forces were "optimized" a significant number of aviation units and eliminated about half of the military airfields in the Far East.


Based on:
http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/KNAAPO.html
http://www.dv-reclama.ru/b/knaapo/
http://superjet.wikidot.com
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  1. Good cat
    Good cat 14 December 2015 06: 54 New
    +7
    Thanks, informative!
  2. Wedmak
    Wedmak 14 December 2015 07: 16 New
    +8
    Be-103 recently ordered China, 13 units and 10 kits.
    http://www.kp.ru/online/news/2217753/
    It is supposed to transfer manufacturing technology and sell a license, as I understand it, since the Chinese themselves want to collect them.
    1. Bongo
      14 December 2015 07: 22 New
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      Quote: Wedmak
      Be-103 recently ordered China, 13 units and 10 kits.
      http://www.kp.ru/online/news/2217753/
      It is supposed to transfer manufacturing technology and sell a license, as I understand it, since the Chinese themselves want to collect them.


      It would not be bad, for KnAAZ it is still a "dead project". The Be-103, built in the past, have been standing "dead weight" in the open air for almost 10 years. It is a pity, of course, that the Su-80 was lost, somehow it was inside the cabin and sat in the cockpit - a pleasant and in my opinion a popular device.
      However, not up to the Be-103 and Su-80 now. Recently, the plant has been working in several shifts, including on weekends. Before the New Year it is necessary to "close" the state defense order.
      1. ancient
        ancient 14 December 2015 10: 47 New
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        Quote: Bongo
        The plant has recently been working in several shifts, including on weekends.


        Seryozha, "extreme" and "extreme time" (!!!!) soldier
        Article is very very good Only, +! drinks
        Yours faithfully, soldier
        1. FID
          FID 14 December 2015 12: 46 New
          +9
          Greetings, old one !!! fellow
          1. ancient
            ancient 14 December 2015 16: 03 New
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            Quote: SSI
            Greetings, old one !!


            Hello Seryozha! drinks
      2. FID
        FID 14 December 2015 12: 45 New
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        Quote: Bongo
        It is a pity, of course, that the Su-80 was stolen, somehow it was inside the cabin and sat in the cockpit - a pleasant and, in my opinion, demanded device.

        And super not only su-80 poheril ... Almost ALL civil aviation, forgive me ...
        1. ancient
          ancient 14 December 2015 16: 06 New
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          Quote: SSI
          Almost ALL civil aviation, forgive me ...


          Oh, how about good Heard the news about .. "entrance doors to MS-21" wassat "The locals looked" and .... "ate soup" angry .. exactly ... "poured the auto industry into the aviation industry" wassat
          I won't talk about the plane at all, but the "approvals" .. "will have to shoot" ... but it's interesting ... the laser show for the "roll-out" has already been paid for and the people .. are "marked" ... oh how belay
  3. Fitter65
    Fitter65 14 December 2015 07: 55 New
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    Komsomolsk-on-Amur and the aircraft factory are not separable. In the difficult 90s, the city survived largely thanks to the plant. A bit of the good old. article clearly +
  4. Amurets
    Amurets 14 December 2015 08: 15 New
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    Thank you! Sergey. The 2nd post we had was near the airfield in the Radishchev Leningradskaya district near the dairy. Here from this post it looked beautifully like a Su-15 took off afterburner. At that time, when I served the city was clearly divided into three areas: Amurstal , city and Dzemgi. Office of the regiment was on Radishcheva-Susanina. Any question? When I served, we were at the factory, and there I heard a conversation that during the war the second half of the factory was evacuated from the western regions, but I couldn’t find confirmation anywhere, neither the factory was evacuated nor where it happened. Maybe you is it known?
    1. gjv
      gjv 14 December 2015 11: 00 New
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      Quote: Amurets
      When I served, we were at the plant and there I heard a conversation that during the war the second half of the plant was evacuated from the western regions, but I could not find confirmation anywhere, nor that the plant was evacuated, nor where it happened.

      There is a book about the history of KnAAZ - Roginko A.N., Vasiliev A.A. The winged glory of Komsomol aircraft manufacturers. Komsomolsk-on-Amur, 2014. It is brief of course, 57 pages in total. The book also did not find mention of such a fact. On the plant’s website in the History section, this is also not mentioned. Perhaps they managed to bring several valuable machines, but it’s unlikely that they would be half a factory. request
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    3. Bongo
      15 December 2015 09: 53 New
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      Quote: Amurets
      When I served, we were at the factory, and there I heard a conversation that during the war the second half of the factory was evacuated from the western regions, but I couldn’t find confirmation anywhere, neither the factory was evacuated nor where it happened. Maybe you is it known?

      No, for the first time I hear this request Perhaps some equipment came from the evacuated enterprises, but from the west, the evacuated enterprises were definitely not deployed here.
  5. Fitter65
    Fitter65 14 December 2015 08: 35 New
    +8
    Honestly, I have never heard about the evacuation to Komsomolsk from the western regions, even considering that at one time I spoke very closely with the employees of the Expocenter, maybe I heard from Sergey ...
    This is also Dzemgi ...
  6. UVB
    UVB 14 December 2015 08: 46 New
    +6
    I apologize to the author, accidentally put me to sleep an article, I ask you not to take into account!
  7. Fitter65
    Fitter65 14 December 2015 08: 48 New
    +7
    and this is also Dzemgi in the good 70s ...
  8. Fitter65
    Fitter65 14 December 2015 09: 03 New
    +4
    ... Jomga in October 2014 ...
  9. Falcon
    Falcon 14 December 2015 09: 14 New
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    Quote: Bongo
    Before the advent of the Su-35С, the Su-27СМ and Su-27СМ3 fighters were the most advanced single-seat combat vehicles in the Russian Air Force.


    Sergey, thanks! In fairness - I want to note the MiG-29СМТ, I could argue with the Su-27СМ3 in efficiency.
    Of course, there were a lot of complaints and failures (Algeria for example). But they then sent a good party to Kursk, in my opinion more than SM3



    Quote: Bongo
    In September, 2001 of the year made the first flight of the Su-80. At the design stage, it was assumed that in the passenger version it will replace Yak-40 and An-24 on local airlines, and in the cargo An-26


    Yes it is too small for An-24 / 26. An-140 was intended for them - this is really a loss, there was a good machine (though the engine is problematic)
    Su-Xnumx is something between An-Xnumx and An-Xnumx. I think most likely they were counting on the next replacement of the An-80.
    This grandfather broke many projects laughing
    Invincible!
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 14 December 2015 10: 19 New
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      Quote: Falcon
      This grandfather broke many projects

      Cyril! An-3 appeared in Blagoveshchensk with an American engine, which I don’t know. The same An-2 with a turboprop engine
      1. Falcon
        Falcon 14 December 2015 10: 43 New
        +5
        Quote: Amurets
        Cyril! An-3 appeared in Blagoveshchensk with an American engine, which I don’t know. The same An-2 with a turboprop engine


        Yes, I heard about An-3 of course. Kerosene for theater is cheaper than aviation gasoline for Al-62. Everything seems to be the case.

        Although the An-3 is not very clear. It hurts then they did not put it on the stream.
      2. Vovanfalcon
        Vovanfalcon 14 December 2015 14: 02 New
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        With the amerovsky engine, not AN-3, Novosibirsk made two copies of the modifications, one goes like this An-2M, but with the second name it is more difficult, I can't remember (well, there was only a shortened fuselage from the An-2). And they tried to produce An-3 here in Omsk, on the "Flight", the engine there is TVD-20, our Russian (rather even Soviet).
        1. Falcon
          Falcon 14 December 2015 14: 33 New
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          Quote: VovanFalcon
          With the Amer’s engine, it’s not AN-3, the Novosibirsk people made two copies of the modifications, one goes the An-2M, but with the second name it’s more difficult, I can’t remember (well, there was only a shortened fuselage from the An-2).


          With Amerovsky HONEYWELL, as far as I remember, there was a modernization of the old ones. Those. not new but replacing the engine on old cars + thorough repair


    2. ancient
      ancient 14 December 2015 10: 54 New
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      Quote: Falcon
      In fairness - I want to note the MiG-29CMT, I could argue with the Su-27CM3 in efficiency.
      Of course, there were a lot of complaints and failures (Algeria for example).


      With all due respect to you ... it is precisely according to the criteria of "combat effectiveness" that SMT cannot "compete" with CM3, even in spite of its "French mince" wink The only one so far + is the ability to use "almost imported missiles" R-77 wassat
      Well, the Algerians expressed their complaints not on refusals .. since there are very few of them, but because they "stuck bullshit" soldier
      Well, SMT, they are all "assigned" to Kursk, about our "homegrown" so far alone .. "conversations" bully
      1. Falcon
        Falcon 14 December 2015 11: 01 New
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        Quote: ancient
        With all due respect to you ... it is precisely according to the criteria of "combat effectiveness" that SMT can not "compete" with SM3, even despite its "French mince". The only one so far + is the ability to use "almost imported missiles" R- 77


        I do not argue, you know better hi
        There it seems the radar is stronger in terms of work on the ground, but it may be wrong, I am not familiar with SM3 at all.

        Quote: ancient
        Well, the Algerians expressed their complaints not on refusals .. since there are very few of them, but because they "stuck bullshit"


        Yes, yes, that’s what I meant. drinks
        1. ancient
          ancient 14 December 2015 11: 04 New
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          Quote: Falcon
          There it seems the radar is stronger in terms of work on the ground, but it may be wrong, I am not familiar with SM3 at all.


          But the radar just on the 29-m when working purely on the ground and on the background of the earth .. just better than on SM3 drinks
          1. Falcon
            Falcon 14 December 2015 11: 12 New
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            Quote: ancient
            But the radar just on the 29-m when working purely on the ground and on the background of the earth .. just better than on SM3


            Yes, I'm talking about 29 and I'm talking. It is more versatile than CM3.

            Taking this opportunity, I want to ask you a question not quite on the topic. repeat
            If you are familiar with both cars, who is still more maneuverable in the BVB? if you take without OVT hi
            1. ancient
              ancient 14 December 2015 16: 10 New
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              Quote: Falcon
              If you are familiar with both cars, who is still more maneuverable in the BVB? if you take without OVT


              At low and medium altitudes, the 29 soldier

              On an equal footing, but ... on the 27-th restriction on overload (on CDS) 7,5 recourse
              1. REVOCOM
                REVOCOM 14 December 2015 16: 17 New
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                Quote: ancient
                At low and medium altitudes, the 29th soldier is uniquely

                On an equal footing, but ... on the 27-th restriction on overload (on CDS) 7,5

                Welcome drinks
                It turns out that these aircraft are best used in mixed groups, as insurance for one another.? or is it not?
                1. Falcon
                  Falcon 14 December 2015 18: 31 New
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                  Quote: REVOM
                  It turns out that these aircraft are best used in mixed groups, as insurance for one another.? or is it not?


                  In a group, probably not entirely reasonable. The combat radius is very different.

                  It was a joke that 29 was created to protect its own airfield wink
                  Small combat radius.
                  The SMT partially solved this problem - a tank was placed behind the cockpit (above the belly), the photo shows that he is humpbacked

                  and refueling bar.
                  All the same, he is a front-line fighter.

                  27 th interceptor. MFPs, IS, drummers, etc. have already gone this further. Large radius, decent combat load.
                  They are different, the group will not work.

                  In other matters, I think Comrade. Ancient will explain better ... wink
              2. FID
                FID 14 December 2015 16: 44 New
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                Quote: ancient
                on the 27th restriction on overload (on CDS) 7,5

                What's so little? After all, the "little ones" have up to 9 ...
                1. ancient
                  ancient 14 December 2015 18: 15 New
                  +7
                  Quote: SSI
                  What's so little? After all, the "little ones" have up to 9 ...


                  On the 29th, yes, but here in the speed range ... bully exactly such a "figure" according to the T-10SK Airplane Flight Manual

                  1. Scraptor
                    Scraptor 15 December 2015 22: 49 New
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                    And the letters "SK" mean what?

                    The MiG-29 glider is falling apart from the loads that the Su-27 can withstand.
                    1. Scraptor
                      Scraptor 17 December 2015 03: 38 New
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                      Minusers justify their "antipathies" as they can? laughing
                      The glider on the first MiG-29 for a long time went cracks, on Sukhoi this was not observed.
              3. Falcon
                Falcon 14 December 2015 18: 21 New
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                Quote: ancient
                At low and medium altitudes, the 29

                On an equal footing, but ... on the 27-th restriction on overload (on CDS) 7,5


                It turns out that the 29th is not so bad, in vain they were shoved for the "big brother".

                Although can OVT solve these shortcomings?
              4. Scraptor
                Scraptor 17 December 2015 04: 20 New
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                At least they compared those and other aerobatics? The MiG-29 does not even know how to do a cobra, it is a statically stable aircraft, it surpasses it only in the ability to base on primers in the front-line strip, and then it is needed.
                In piloting the MiG-29, the F-15 is slightly ahead, the Su-27 is superior in quality. With his low-temperature 30mm cannon with limited ammunition against the fast-firing American 20mm, there’s still nothing to catch both in a group battle, especially the MiG-29 even in a duel situation.
                1. Falcon
                  Falcon 18 December 2015 14: 27 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Scraptor
                  MiG-29 can’t even do a cobra, it’s a statically stable plane


                  airbus 320 / 380 / 350 are also statically unstable aircraft.

                  Quote: Scraptor
                  In piloting the MiG-29, the F-15 slightly outperforms, the Su-27 surpasses it in quality.


                  I see you are a pilot, and all flew. And how there F-35 and F-22 on aerobatics can also reveal a secret covenant. Or lay out overload schedules from the F-15 RLE?

                  Quote: Scraptor
                  And the letters "SK" mean what?


                  Exactly, it’s commercial and therefore it has a different glider fellow

                  Quote: Scraptor
                  The glider on the first MiG-29 for a long time went cracks, on Sukhoi this was not observed.


                  Did Simonov tell you this or where did the data come from?

                  But there’s nothing that on the 27-m the wing is scaled from the 29-th, since its own has not passed the tests.
  10. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 14 December 2015 10: 17 New
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    Built by Komsomol members in the 30s, KOMSOMOLTSEM remained. Article +++++ hi
  11. andrei.yandex
    andrei.yandex 14 December 2015 11: 54 New
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    The range without refueling the Su-27 is higher than that of the Su-30.
  12. 505506
    505506 14 December 2015 12: 38 New
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    To the author: when from the first lines you meet information that does not correspond to reality, the rest of the text (its veracity) is alarming. The name Dzemgi has nothing to do with groves. This replicated borzopistsev stamp. It is clear that this is how your stripping in front of the beautiful. But ... The name means the house of wood. Little bloopers cause big questions. Just in my native story I rummage, a little more than in aviation.
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga 15 December 2015 04: 14 New
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      Quote: 505506
      To the author: when from the first lines you meet information that does not correspond to reality, the rest of the text (its veracity) is alarming. The name Dzemgi has nothing to do with groves. This replicated borzopistsev stamp. It is clear that this is how your stripping in front of the beautiful. But ... The name means the house of wood. Little bloopers cause big questions. Just in my native story I rummage, a little more than in aviation.

      Happy for you! Sorry, but in my opinion the article is about aviation, a factory and an airfield, and not about Nanai names. It seems that you just decided to show off? If you are such a great connoisseur of Nanai names, then maybe you will publish an article on the toponymy of the Khabarovsk Territory or at least the Komsomolsk District? I would really be interested in reading it.
      1. 505506
        505506 15 December 2015 11: 43 New
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        And so it is written, you write about aviation, do not go into place names. And you climb, so skillfully climb.
        1. Bongo
          15 December 2015 11: 55 New
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          Quote: 505506
          And so it is written, you write about aviation, do not go into place names. And you climb, so skillfully climb.


          You know, dear, I didn’t want to squabble negative But there is even a "birch grove" in the Museum of Local Lore, not to mention a lot of other sources. After reading your comment, I called a friend of the Nanai, his 73-year-old grandmother living in Nergen still remembers the language. So she said that there is no such word as "a house made of wood" in the Nanai language at all. No.
          Then it became interesting to me, and I "climbed into the jungle". As it turned out, Dziyomga's translation - "birch grove" arose from the "light hand" of the writer Yuri Zhukov. in fact, this word is translated as - a hut or a summer house. I offer you my deep apologies for the misinterpretation of Jemgi's words.
          But on the other hand, your mentor tone of understanding does not cause No. and I absolutely agree with Olga:
          Quote: zyablik.olga
          Sorry, but in my opinion an article about aviation, a plant and an airfield, and not about Nanai names. It seems that you just decided to show off? If you are such a great connoisseur of Nanai names, then maybe you can publish an article on the toponymy of the Khabarovsk Territory, or at least the Komsomolsky District?
          1. 505506
            505506 15 December 2015 12: 20 New
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            Talk about place names, are outside the scope of the site. I know you as a regular participant in tw, therefore I wrote that I have a very superficial understanding of airplanes, and therefore I do not take review articles for granted. And here is a blooper, which I see how you see bloopers regarding technology. And, formally recognizing the correctness of the statement, you end up in a lunge. In human terms, in essence, not very ...
            1. Bongo
              15 December 2015 13: 02 New
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              Quote: 505506
              Talk about place names, are outside the scope of the site. I know you as a permanent member of tw, therefore I wrote that I have a very superficial understanding of airplanes, and therefore I do not take review articles for granted.

              You know, of course I "skipped" about Jomga, but - in my opinion, this is an annoying trifle. It is very difficult to collect and analyze material to avoid flaws.
              Quote: 505506
              And here is a blooper, which I see how you see bloopers regarding technology. And, formally recognizing the correctness of the statement, you end up in a lunge. In human terms, in essence, not very ...

              Thank you for correcting. But you re-read your first comment ... Excuse me ... negative So, what comes around ... Yes, the minus that someone slapped you, I corrected.
              1. 505506
                505506 16 December 2015 03: 52 New
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                Perhaps it was too harsh. Accept an apology.
    2. SergeySh
      SergeySh 15 December 2015 06: 57 New
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      Dzemgi - comes from the Evenk "dzyumi", which means "abandoned chum". The Nanai did not build "houses of wood" so they could not have such a designation in their language)))))) You probably confused with Khurba (Khurba) also an airfield near Komsomolsk-on-Amur, in translation from the Nanai dwelling but not made of wood and in the form of a dugout.
  13. Wolka
    Wolka 14 December 2015 13: 28 New
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    yes, and this is also the story of the formation and development of the air force of the Russian Federation
  14. vinitskij2016
    vinitskij2016 14 December 2015 13: 30 New
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    According to my calculations, there should be 23 Su-27S aircraft in 35 IAP, i.e. the formation of the 3rd zsk started.
  15. wei
    wei 14 December 2015 13: 57 New
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    great keep it up good
    but rotorcraft less fortunate
    sad news
    Anatoly Serdyukov joins the board of directors of Russian Helicopters

    what are they thinking request lovers rake mlyn am
  16. alicante11
    alicante11 14 December 2015 14: 05 New
    +1
    The plant is powerful. The truth was there only once, at a weather station. But we went on a loaf to GDP (from the checkpoint :)) for a long time. And yet, it is gratifying to feel even a little, but involvement in the work of the legendary enterprise.
  17. Resistance
    Resistance 14 December 2015 14: 52 New
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    "during landing, due to a pilot error, touched the wingtip to a concrete runway" - ie a computer that compensates for pilot errors overslept? Well, they tell us about the Su-35.
  18. The point
    The point 14 December 2015 15: 16 New
    +5
    And the airfield is located near residential buildings. During flights, it often seems that the plane will fly into the window, but so far the guys are flying (pah-pah) without any accidents.
    The article is excellent. From myself I will add photos from the show on the 80th anniversary of the plant.
  19. The point
    The point 14 December 2015 15: 23 New
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    In 1984, deliveries of the serial Su-27 began. One of the first Su-27 fighters began to master the pilots of the 60-iap. This fighter air regiment, covering Komsomolsk-on-Amur for a long time, shared the runway with the plant.

    The 23rd Tallinn Fighter Regiment celebrates its 75th anniversary this year. It was formed on August 16, 1939 in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, on Dzemga, as the 60th air regiment. Our aviation has experienced many turbulent streams, battles, reforms, re-formations, and now it is the 23rd "Tallinn" Fighter Aviation Order of Kutuzov III degree regiment and the "Dzemgi" air base (http://www.kmslife.ru/news/detail. php? ID = 14662).

    And Jömgi decipher so: Far Climbed, E ... ut Frosts. I'm dying. Ivan laughing

    It's really chilly here. hi
    1. VIT101
      VIT101 16 December 2015 14: 22 New
      +1
      "The 23rd Tallinn Fighter Regiment celebrates its 75th anniversary this year."

      Not everything goes smoothly with the numbering of the shelf. From 1948 to 1980 the name of the 23rd IAP "50 years of the USSR" was carried by the regiment, which was stationed in Rzhev. This is a completely different regiment, having nothing to do with the 60th and 404th.
  20. parafoiler
    parafoiler 14 December 2015 19: 11 New
    +5
    Maqsud outstripped Ivan with the "telegram"! And how many parachute jumps I performed at this point ....... To neighbors ardent greetings from the Khurbinets !!!
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 15 December 2015 00: 39 New
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      Quote: parafoiler
      Neighbors fiery greetings from Hurbintsy !!!

      Until October 1970 in Khurba, at 24 warehouses, our ZRDN stood, and in the area of ​​the new airfield there was an emergency position. Then we were transferred to Mylki, near Amursk.
  21. Kibl
    Kibl 14 December 2015 20: 50 New
    +4
    That they are so worried about this Sukhoi Super Jet, some sort of main savior of the entire civil aviation industry, that other Russian aviation design bureaus have ceased to exist, I will never believe in life. Besides, the article spoke about a large share of imported parts in Sushka!
  22. SergeySh
    SergeySh 15 December 2015 06: 41 New
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    Someone has sandboxes, someone has su-35 and S-300 :)) Photos from Dzemog :)
    1. SergeySh
      SergeySh 15 December 2015 06: 43 New
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      Su-35 barbicheater.
    2. SergeySh
      SergeySh 15 December 2015 06: 44 New
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      27, I don’t remember.
    3. SergeySh
      SergeySh 15 December 2015 06: 45 New
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      27th under the belly.
    4. The point
      The point 16 December 2015 15: 15 New
      +2
      Take a slightly larger plan.
  23. lazy
    lazy 15 December 2015 14: 19 New
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    Is it worth the author to blame for "Dzemgi" - a birch grove, if they talked about it both at school and in the local history museum. I remember that when the Su-15 took off at a school that was far enough from the take-off course, the noise blocked the voice of the teacher or the answering student. I can imagine how it was for the residents of the house that it was right at the takeoff and landing course. The current Dryers are much quieter.
    1. Bongo
      15 December 2015 14: 24 New
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      Quote: lazy
      The current Drying is much quieter.

      But not in comparison with the Khurbinsky Su-24M. wink
    2. The point
      The point 16 December 2015 15: 17 New
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      Guys! When the "dryers" take off or land, all the cars in the factory parking lot start yelling in unison (the alarm goes off).
  24. vkfriendly
    vkfriendly 18 December 2015 08: 52 New
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    At 86_m we were taken from the training camp from Khurba to this airdrome as a free labor force. I remember the first time I saw a real combat aircraft, I couldn’t say what kind of drying it was. And how he silently planned at a low height above the strip and then fell off with a roar sensations are still the sky ...