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Alexander Nevsky: warrior, diplomat, monk

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Alexander Nevsky: warrior, diplomat, monk



What made the winner of the Crusaders take the veil at the end of life

The Orthodox Church 6 December honors the memory of the holy Prince Alexander Nevsky. He entered history as the winner of the Swedes and the Germans and unsurpassed politician. Even in the Horde, where he was poisoned by his father, he conquered everyone - the eldest son of Batu himself adopted Christianity and became his named brother. All this did not prevent Alexander from dying to take monastic vows and leave the world in which he had accomplished so much.

European threats


The chronicle informs: before the battle on the Neva, where the Swedes had pulled together a large army, Prince Alexander had a vision. The prince doubted and asked for help from God - and suddenly he saw a boat on the water surface, and on it were the martyrs Boris and Gleb, dressed in purple clothes. The vision gave him confidence and strength. He launched an offensive decisively and utterly defeated the Swedes. After this battle, which took place on July 15 1240, the nickname Nevsky was fixed to him.

Two years later, the military genius of the prince will unfold in full force. Livonian Germans will approach Novgorod. Will seize Pskov, will plunder merchants. Alexander chases them to Lake Peipsi, and what happens next will be one of the most brilliant victories in Russian history. The prince will lure the German knights to the ice. Unable to withstand the severity of their armor, the ice will crack and the German army, armed with the latest, will go under water ...

He began to reign in Novgorod, when he was only nine years old. So decided the father, Prince Yaroslav Vsevolodovich. He left in the city of Alexander and his brother Theodore, who was only two years older. Yaroslav himself went to Pereyaslavl-Zalessky.

In 13 years, Alexander first tried his sword in battle. He went with his father on a campaign against the Livonians to fight near Dorpat together with his mother hardened in battles by the squad of Yaroslav.

At the time of victory in the Battle of the Neva Alexander - scary to think! - 19 years. A number of historians today express an opinion, they say, the significance of his victories is exaggerated. And the prince himself, according to them, was distinguished by a sharp temper: he was a little angry at Pskov and Novgorod, and cut off his tongues for offense and disobedience.

The “canonical” historians, Soloviev and Karamzin, categorically disagree with the first. Both, based on the annals, come to the conclusion: during the reign of Alexander in Novgorod, the raids from north to Russia stopped. Moreover, the Germans ceded even a part of their territories to the Russians (although they themselves had recently been stationed in Pskov) - we are talking about lands given under a peace treaty in Eastern Lithuania.

As for the second, here we must consider the behavior of Alexander in the context of historical events. In the south stood the Horde, in the north were the Germans, Lithuanians and Swedes. The specific Russian princes did not fetter themselves with morality: they sat down each other before the Khan, weaving conspiracies against each other. In these conditions, in order to maintain their positions, it was necessary to combine a diplomat, a warrior and a hard leader. All this, as history has shown, Alexander was able to do very well.

Kinship with Batu

In 1247, Alexander, together with one of his brothers, Andrey, went to the Horde. They were going to decide which of them would reign. By that time, two important things had happened. First, a year earlier in the capital of the Mongolian empire, the city of Karakorum, Yaroslav, the father of Alexander, was poisoned. It was rumored that the wife of the new great khan did it: allegedly she gave Yaroslav a drink of water from her hands, and in the evening he fell dead and turned blue. Secondly, at the same time, Chernigov Prince Michael was executed in the Horde when he refused to worship the Mongol gods.


Image of Alexander Yaroslavich in the Facial Chronicle of Ivan the Terrible (Tsar-book). Photo: wikipedia.org

To put it another way, the trip to Alexander was tense: it was necessary to stay alive, get a princely label and not change your faith. The prince did all this with real art. Chroniclers later reported: Baty, who was sitting in the Horde, was conquered. “Everything that was said about him is true,” he told his nobles. “There is no more such prince.” From the Horde, Alexander went to Karakorum and eventually returned to Russia with a label on the Kiev principality (Andrei’s brother was determined to reign in Vladimir). In addition, in the Horde, he fraternized with his son Baty Sartak - according to legend, the prince converted him to Christianity.

However, some researchers believe that Sartak was already a Christian before the arrival of Alexander. It is believed that he professed Nestorianism: this trend was condemned at the Third Ecumenical Council in 431. Among other things, the Nestorians denied the term "Mother of God." Subsequently, Sartak will help Alexander: he will give an army to fight with his brother Andrew, with whom Alexander will have differences.

He will visit the Horde three more times. Every time it will be a journey on the verge of life and death. It will be necessary to go to the bow of the new khan (and, in fact, re-receive the right to reign, to win his confidence and try not to be poisoned), then to dissuade the Mongols from the new ruin (when in a number of Russian cities they kill Baskakov, tribute collectors). During these trips, Alexander, together with Metropolitan Cyril, his associate, founded the Diocese of the Orthodox Church in the Horde. And in between, they talked with the pope's legates - they planned to incline Alexander to the Catholic faith, and then stand against the Mongol-Tatars together.

The life of the prince answers: "We do not accept the teachings from you!".

Monk

In the 1263 year, during the last trip to the Horde, the prince fell ill. On the way back under Gorodets (historians have no consensus: was it Gorodets on the Volga or Gorodets in Ryazan) he died.

Life reports: before his death, the prince took monastic vows and received a new name - Alexy. At his funeral, says life, a miracle happened. When the metropolitan wanted to put a spiritual certificate in his hand, the prince allegedly rose from his grave and accepted the paper himself.

“Why did the victorious prince need monasticism at the end of life?” - this question was asked by many historians. Alexander's life answers this way: his whole life, starting with the victory on the Neva, was surrounded by the images of the saints and protected him - and only the princely portion did not allow him to become a monk before.

They began to honor Alexander Nevsky in the church immediately after death. But officially he was canonized only in 1547 year. This happened during the Council, convened under Ivan the Terrible.

Alexander Nevsky is honored as a patron of warriors. According to the chroniclers, his phenomena were observed during the Battle of Kulikovo and during the campaign of Ivan the Terrible against Kazan. Orthodox believers: the holy prince continues to look after Russia from heaven and protect her from enemies.
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  1. fraer
    fraer 13 December 2015 05: 44 New
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    The author of the article is my first plus hi
    Well, for thinking videos.
    1. Down House
      Down House 13 December 2015 10: 10 New
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      Quote: fraer
      Well, for thinking videos.

      In Western countries they speak of such politically correct ones - for "alternative" minded people. laughing
      1. fraer
        fraer 13 December 2015 11: 16 New
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        I welcome you don hahaus !! Bah! belay All shoulder straps laughed. what
        Looks like Russia do not like such laughter. Well, keep a plus. How can i request
        1. Down House
          Down House 13 December 2015 11: 33 New
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          Quote: fraer
          All shoulder straps laughed.
          Looks like they do not like such lustful in Russia.

          Every real and honest Russian is simply obliged in this life to suffer for the truth - such is our fate laughing
          1. fraer
            fraer 13 December 2015 11: 48 New
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            Wan, would you like some advice? Be closer to the people, maybe you will marry your own. wink
            1. Down House
              Down House 13 December 2015 12: 09 New
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              It doesn’t work, the genes of the hereditary intellectual are doing their job laughing
              1. fraer
                fraer 13 December 2015 13: 07 New
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                Quote: Down House
                It doesn’t work, the genes of the hereditary intellectual are doing their job

                Here are those on. belay Always did not consider military personnel, intellectuals. (Not counting parquet) So you stick up. I give a joke.
                They ask the donkey. What type of transport do you consider yourself to be? He waved his tail. To the passenger ... what But cardan is then Mazovian !!! belay
                1. Down House
                  Down House 13 December 2015 19: 06 New
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                  Quote: fraer
                  Always did not consider military personnel, intellectuals.

                  This I subtly hinted at a "slightly different" - but apparently a hint is thinner than the MAZ cardan fellow
              2. Talgat
                Talgat 13 December 2015 13: 11 New
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                from http://www.molportal.ru/node/12752

                the Eurasian Lev Gumilyov expressed his point of view by writing that in the 1251 year, Alexander Nevsky fraternized with Batu’s son Sartak, “as a result of which he became the son of the khan and in the 1252 year he brought the Tatar corps to Russia with the experienced Noyon Nevruy”.

                According to this theory, Alexander confidently created an alliance with the Golden Horde, and this alliance is seen not as a yoke, but as a blessing. If you trust Gumilyov, at the time of Alexander Nevsky there was a political and military alliance between Russia and the Horde.

                In general, Alexander even at that time began Nazarbayev Eurasian integration and confrontation with Europe. A very right choice - tsarist Russia and the USSR only confirmed this by repeating the creation of the Empire of the Huns of Attilla and the Golden Horde - the union of the Great Steppe and Orthodox Slavs always creates a great country - no matter how you call it the USSR, even Russia even the Horde
                1. fraer
                  fraer 13 December 2015 14: 36 New
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                  Quote: Talgat
                  Talgat

                  Most probably the wrong thing is that we are building a worldview from particulars to the general. I am centric. Probably the correct worldview from the general to the particular.
                  That is GOD the Original. But we do not know the general. And this is persecuted with the stubbornness of a maniac. We are slipping particular. Silent general. what
                2. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 13 December 2015 18: 41 New
                  +3
                  for Talgat:
                  "and this union is not considered as a yoke, but as a blessing." ////

                  I would say, not as good, but as inevitability. Genghisides Army
                  It was stronger several times than the squads and militias of all the princes of Russia combined.
                  And stronger than all the European armies of that time. Alexander understood this - and did what
                  done.
      2. sovetskyturist
        sovetskyturist 13 December 2015 12: 14 New
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        sometimes you probably need to think alternatively, otherwise the political instrumental liberals will bring to the full triumph of tolerance http://historyisnomore.blogspot.cz http://catastrophe1707.blogspot.cz
        1. Vend
          Vend 13 December 2015 14: 13 New
          +4
          The merits of Alexander Yaroslavich are indisputable, no matter how hard they try to slander them. The only thing I would like to say is that he was not the first to defeat the Germans on ice. This was done by his father Yaroslav.
          1. moskowit
            moskowit 13 December 2015 14: 40 New
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            Yes, indeed, the Germans were always beaten on ICE! And the most outstanding commander of the Ice Victories was the colonel of the Soviet Army Tarasov Anatoly Vladimirovich!
          2. Pomeranian
            Pomeranian 13 December 2015 21: 00 New
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            Actually, the first Russian prince who entered the war with the crusaders was Vyachko Yuryevsky. very extraordinary personality. Real hero.
      3. 4thParasinok
        4thParasinok 19 December 2015 11: 20 New
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        in-politically correct ... but it is necessary without this liberal pido *** to tell the truth. And for one, to ask that there are more in such "storytellers" - psychiatric patients or a desire for bucks and a snowstorm, they would pay more.
    2. Aklyakhin
      Aklyakhin 13 December 2015 22: 40 New
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      I know that real historians operate on verified facts.
      They themselves are professionally researched, verified, and only then presented to the public - interested in history, but unprofessional. Such a story is valuable!
      And all sorts of reasoning, speculation, assumptions - this is not history. This is called "brain powder."
      I've already read so many “interpretations” on the topic “Alexander Nevsky!” Read all this - life is not enough.
      I would like to get acquainted with history based on verified historical facts.
      But to argue and get closer to the truth - in another place and with professionals.
  2. tanit
    tanit 13 December 2015 07: 51 New
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    Quote: fraer
    Well, for thinking videos.

    Video is not for thinkers, video is not for fans of sacred sacredness. laughing
    But, by the way, - Alexander Nevsky, this abomination, they won’t hurt. hi
    1. fraer
      fraer 13 December 2015 08: 37 New
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      Quote: tanit
      Video is not for thinkers, video is not for fans of sacred sacredness.

      I'm not going to convince you of anything. Especially clog the branch.
      Are you satisfied with THIS? The flag is in your hands. Amuse yourself.
      Well, it’s an abomination to call a different view of things .... without a mat you will not answer. what
      1. tanit
        tanit 13 December 2015 09: 42 New
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        Hmm, drug addicts also see the world in a different way, for them, an addict only accessible. hi
        Should I admire them? Somehow I don’t feel like it, sorry. hi
        1. fraer
          fraer 13 December 2015 11: 42 New
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          Quote: tanit
          excuse me.

          I'm sorry. It happens to everyone.
          Only to classify all dissenters as drug addicts ... a convenient position.
          Put a label and sleep peacefully. tongue
          1. tanit
            tanit 13 December 2015 14: 50 New
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            Well, why is it calm. Let me disagree. The video you uploaded is propaganda of lies and other evil spirits. So? Or will you deny the word "propaganda"?
            And yes, the comparison with the "addicts" offends you - not surprised. You, and people like you, are a lot worse. hi
            1. fraer
              fraer 13 December 2015 16: 04 New
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              Quote: tanit
              You, and people like you, are a lot worse

              Yes, I’m a terrible scary gray wolf. I know a lot about drug addicts !!!!
              Yes, I'm worse, I have my own self.
              By the way, when I uploaded the video, I was not forced to accept this.
              Take note. That's all. But for you (note with a capital letter), what drove in school is your level. And Above you do not jump.
              Out of respect for the interlocutor, plus, even if I do not agree with him.
              Well, unless of course he is not a boor. "Tolerate, hate" !!!!
              1. tanit
                tanit 13 December 2015 16: 19 New
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                Not scary: wink And not to the point that I can’t eat. laughing
                I can’t stand it anymore - oh, how else wassat
              2. 4thParasinok
                4thParasinok 19 December 2015 11: 40 New
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                Quote: fraer
                By the way, when I uploaded the video, I was not forced to accept this.

                Well, yes, and your phrase
                Well, for thinking videos.
                is not compulsion? It means one thing: whoever disagrees is incapable of understanding the truth. This is the option of coercion.
            2. 4thParasinok
              4thParasinok 19 December 2015 11: 37 New
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              Quote: tanit
              The video you uploaded is propaganda of lies and other evil spirits. So? Or will you deny the word "propaganda"?
              And yes, the comparison with the "addicts" offends you - not surprised. You, and people like you, are a lot worse.
              I agree completely.
              I first came across such “experts” in history more than 20 years ago. one "scientific" writings about the alleged "history of ancient Rus" by thin. He wrote to literature, even used science fiction. The other one spoke openly in his gazette: “... By no means do you want to read the Bible. If you read it all, you will go crazy. Come back to me, I read it all. ...” And some of the followers even thought that a man himself admits that he is crazy. And this was one of the 2 “gurus” of the Rodnoverians of the early 90s, I forgot his name, but the RNU distributed their sockets. All modern students studied with him.
        2. sovetskyturist
          sovetskyturist 13 December 2015 12: 38 New
          +3
          sometimes you just have to think the Egyptians, for example, diorite, basalt, granite than they worked with copper and stone chisels, and historical professors were written by Mr. Professor
          1. Down House
            Down House 13 December 2015 12: 57 New
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            Quote: sovetskyturist
            sometimes you just need to think the Egyptians, for example, diorite, basalt, granite than treated with copper and stone chisels

            I feel - a scientific article about the construction "technology" of ancient Egypt is vital here laughing
            1. sovetskyturist
              sovetskyturist 13 December 2015 15: 47 New
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              your nickname is multi-expressive, but people just don’t do anything. Relatively scientific article about building technologies was really needed here. It clearly shows how the crowd thinks - be like everyone else and a big giraffe knows better, and think with your own brains. https: // en .wikipedia.org / wiki /% D0% 94% D0% B0% D1% 83% D0% BD_% D0% A5% D0% B0% D1%
              83% D1% 81
              1. 4thParasinok
                4thParasinok 19 December 2015 11: 49 New
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                link does not work
          2. 4thParasinok
            4thParasinok 19 December 2015 11: 45 New
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            Quote: sovetskyturist
            sometimes you just have to think the Egyptians, for example, diorite, basalt, granite than they worked with copper and stone chisels, and historical professors were written by Mr. Professor

            but more precisely, you can say? And then from your words it is not clear what you are affirming.
            In general, it is using a copper tool and an abrasive. This was proved more than 10 years ago, as well as the fact that such a method is even faster than modern carbide saws and drills, though with one caveat, manual.
            And your "Forbidden themes of history" created by delitants cannot be taken for the truth, in every program that I saw a bunch of frank lies. This film did not begin to siotret.
  3. Darkness
    Darkness 13 December 2015 09: 10 New
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    And something bashfully silent about how the "holy" prince killed Russian people for disobeying the Tatar-Mongols?
    About how, for the sake of it, he supported the priest punished any manifestation of free thought, death.
    1. Down House
      Down House 13 December 2015 10: 13 New
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      Quote: Darkness
      And something is bashfully silent about how the "holy" prince killed Russian people

      Oh, in those days everyone was killing someone - and there weren’t any specific “Russian people” then - for the master “Rodina”, his “family estate” was lackeys of nationality like a dog and a chair, and lackeys about nationalities did not know anything and could not know fellow
      1. Darkness
        Darkness 13 December 2015 10: 35 New
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        Surely your ancestors did not know anything about nationality
        1. Down House
          Down House 13 December 2015 11: 18 New
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          Quote: Darkness
          Surely your ancestors did not know anything about nationality

          Oh, and yours probably knew - probably even in those days when humanity did not even know the word "nationality" laughing
          Yes, even in the Republic of Ingushetia this concept was absent in all state documents, and in English, “nationality” is still synonymous with “citizenship”.
        2. fraer
          fraer 13 December 2015 11: 25 New
          +1
          He never admits nationality, a simple person, with a simple name ..... Vanya. request
          1. Down House
            Down House 13 December 2015 11: 35 New
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            Quote: fraer
            He never admits nationality

            I then know my nationality - Russian is called fellow
            And now I’m not saying that Cro-Magnons were not Cro-Magnons, I’m saying that Cro-Magnons themselves did not know such a word as Cro-Magnons.
            1. fraer
              fraer 13 December 2015 11: 56 New
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              Quote: Down House
              I then know my nationality - Russian is called

              Come on. Take a look at the patchport. There is no such nationality. And no matter how much you beat yourself in the chest, you won’t jump above the seat request
              1. Down House
                Down House 13 December 2015 12: 10 New
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                Quote: fraer
                Come on. Take a look at the patchport. There is no such nationality.

                And nationality is not determined by a passport, passport determines citizenship fellow
                1. fraer
                  fraer 13 December 2015 13: 17 New
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                  Yes, indeed, now it is. And the nasty communists painted-Russian-Tatar-Jew. So you are no longer Vanya, but Vanka, who does not remember kinship. A faceless member of the Russian Federation. tongue
                  Well or so those who invented it want to see.
                  1. Down House
                    Down House 13 December 2015 19: 07 New
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                    Quote: fraer
                    Yes indeed, now yes

                    Yes, this is always the case - nationality is genetics, it is a culture and a system of moral values ​​- all this does not fit in a passport.
  4. Semurg
    Semurg 13 December 2015 09: 11 New
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    siblings Alexander and Andrei began to fight against each other. Horde helped Alexander, the damned steppes again burned Russia Vladimirovskaya?
    1. IS-80
      IS-80 13 December 2015 15: 39 New
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      Quote: Semurg
      damned steppes again burned Russia Vladimirovskaya

      They are not to blame for anything. They wanted the best, but it all caught fire. So prepare a salmon tenge. You will pay reparations like the descendants of Genghis Khan. And it’s not all the time for you to cry about oppression. laughing
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 13 December 2015 17: 29 New
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        I'll cook a hop. will you come for reparations yourself?
        1. IS-80
          IS-80 13 December 2015 18: 01 New
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          Quote: Semurg
          will you come for reparations yourself?

          Yeah, My Royal Majesty will personally come to the Kazakhstan Khanate. I want to personally see how these wild nomadic Kazakhs live there. They say there they built a new town called Astana, there is the rate of their Great Khan Nursultan Abishevich. laughing
          1. Semurg
            Semurg 13 December 2015 19: 37 New
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            Quote: IS-80

            Yeah, My Royal Majesty will personally come to the Kazakhstan Khanate.

            in Durkee Internet spent or what? the king of all Russia on the site registered laughing
            1. IS-80
              IS-80 13 December 2015 22: 00 New
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              Quote: Semurg
              in Durkee Internet spent or what? the king of all Russia on the site registered

              You do not get distracted by ranting a bag of tenge for my arrival, cook. laughing
    2. 4thParasinok
      4thParasinok 19 December 2015 11: 56 New
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      there was no "Vladimir Russia" was just Russia. And it was not Alexander who started the war, but Andrey. Alexander did everything so that fewer Russians died, and Andrey did not care. And by the way, he, too, called the "overseas guests" for help, but for some reason he is silent about this fact.
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 13 December 2015 09: 40 New
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    The Orthodox believe: the holy prince and from heaven continues to look after Russia and protect it from enemies.... We believe that everyone is Orthodox and non-Orthodox and atheists .. I.V. Stalin in his speech on November 7, 1941 told the participants of the parade and the whole country "Let the courageous image of our great ancestors - Alexander Nevsky, Dmitry Donskoy inspire you in this war .... ".. Why wrote, it is not necessary to divide the people of Russia on various grounds, including religious ones .. together we are power .. really, even after the collapse of the USSR it is not clear ...
    1. tanit
      tanit 13 December 2015 09: 57 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      Really, even after the collapse of the USSR, this is not clear ...

      Why understand something ?. Everyone already "understood" and voiced on the video. am
      As something under the nickname "fraer" said, it’s hard without a mat. Here, perhaps, I agree with him.
    2. Darkness
      Darkness 13 December 2015 10: 37 New
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      I would rather believe that Svyatoslav is watching over Russian land, whose exploits are incomparably greater than those of Nevsky and Donskoy.
      1. Lord of Wrath
        Lord of Wrath 13 December 2015 18: 05 New
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        Quote: Darkness
        Svyatoslav, whose deeds are incomparably greater than those of Nevsky and Donskoy.

        I agree to all 100%.
        Just if you do not rely on the "hollowed out" school knowledge, but simply try to analyze.
        A year did not pass as Kiev fell in 1240, and all of Russia washed itself with blood from the Tatars, as Alexander brought the Tatar regiments to Novgorod.
        1251, together with Noyon Nevruy, fought against his brother Andrei who raised his first uprising against the Tatars.
        1253 fought against Daniel Galitsky, the first to defeat the Tatars.
        Therefore, they canonized only after 300 years, because a very controversial person
        1. 4thParasinok
          4thParasinok 19 December 2015 12: 26 New
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          Quote: Lord of Wrath

          1253 fought against Daniel Galitsky, the first to defeat the Tatars.

          The Mongols invaded the Principality of Kiev, defeated Piglets and besieged Kiev on September 5, 1240. The defense was led by the thousandth Daniil of Galitsky, Dmitry. Even before the arrival of the Mongols, Daniel himself left for Hungary in order to conclude a dynastic alliance with King Bela IV, but also unsuccessfully.

          According to the annals, Daniel returned to Russia during the invasion, but could not get into the Russian land, since there were few squads with him and returned to Hungary.

          The decisive assault took place on December 5, 1240. The Mongols broke through the walls of the city in several places at once, but the defenders of Kiev moved to Detinets. The next day, the soldiers of Batu launched an assault on the central part of the city and the Mountain. Having broken the resistance of Kiev, the Mongols staged a massacre and set fire to the Church of the Tithes, in which the last defenders of the city took refuge. Tysyatsky Dmitry was captured.

          This is the very fact that Kiev was doomed to destruction by demanding that it wasn’t the residents who killed the Batu ambassadors, and even 4 months did not come to the aid of the city, although it promised. But at that time everyone already knew that, according to Mongolian customs, the city in which the Pasla had been killed must be destroyed with all the inhabitants. And the whole problem is that Kiev was not its "patrimonial" city, which means its inhabitants are enemies. Everything is like in modern Ukraine. Yes, and he is far from the first who broke the mangol.
          and here's another one about Daniel:
          In 1231, when Mikhail Chernigovsky, who failed in the struggle for Novgorod, began to claim Kiev, Vladimir Rurikovich gave Daniil Porosye for help in defending Kiev. Daniil gave the piglet to “his shyriats” [7], that is, to the sons of Mstislav Udatny, who, according to one version, also included Izyaslav.

          In the fight for Kiev, Daniel supported Vladimir Rurikovich against Mikhail Chernigov and Izyaslav, besieged Chernigov, but was defeated at Torsky and lost Galich, and Vladimir Kiev (1235). The largest feud ended in 1236, when Yaroslav the Novgorod of Suzdal Yuryevich took control of Kiev, ravaging the Chernigov lands along the way. The loss of Galich even pushed Daniel to participate in the coronation of Bela IV in Fehervar on October 14, 1235, as a vassal of the Hungarian crown [11]

          the marriage took place in 1247; this kinship led to the fact that Daniel took part in the struggle of the Hungarian king with the Czech because of the Austrian inheritance (campaigns of 1248 and 1253), and his son Roman married the heiress of the Austrian duchy in 1252 and declared his claim to this area.
          .................
          Both proposals by Pope Innocent IV to Daniel of the royal crown and aid against the Horde in exchange for the catholization of Russian lands chronologically coincide with the aforementioned Galician campaigns. Daniel agreed to accept the royal crown and in January 1254 was crowned in Drogichin;


          and something in Daniel’s life doesn’t have much patriotism, just a fight for the feeding trough at all costs.
        2. 4thParasinok
          4thParasinok 19 December 2015 12: 42 New
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          Quote: Lord of Wrath
          A year did not pass as Kiev fell in 1240, and all of Russia washed itself with blood from the Tatars, as Alexander brought the Tatar regiments to Novgorod.
          proof in the studio. How many Basurmans were there in the Nogorod?

          Quote: Lord of Wrath
          1251, together with Noyon Nevruy, fought against his brother Andrei who raised his first uprising against the Tatars.

          1. Historically not proven, this is only a version built on speculation.
          2.
          “As long as we quarrel among ourselves and bring the Tatars; it’s better to flee to a foreign land than to be friends with the Tatars and serve them! ” He met them near Pereyaslavl, was defeated, at first sought salvation in Novgorod, from where he then retired to Sweden.
          Super patriot, however ...
          3.
          In 1256, Andrei Yaroslavich returned to Russia and was received by Alexander, who reconciled him with the khan and gave the inheritance to Gorodets and Nizhny, and then, with the permission of the khan, Suzdal
          but these are historical facts, feel the difference.
      2. Pomeranian
        Pomeranian 13 December 2015 21: 02 New
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        Or Vyachko Yuryevsky ...
  6. tanit
    tanit 13 December 2015 09: 47 New
    +2
    Alexander did everything he could. Could stop the Horde, stop. But he didn’t have the strength. laughing)
    And Nevsky is not Kohl number two Bloody (during the life of the Bloody, after life - "holy")
  7. Mangel olys
    Mangel olys 13 December 2015 10: 17 New
    +1
    Pope Innocent IV in 1234 declared a crusade against the Tatars as "messengers of Satan and minions of Tartarus." He not only wanted the liberation of the Catholic countries of Europe from the Tatars, who, incidentally, did not interfere in religious affairs, but wanted to incite the Mamelukes against the Golden Horde and convert the Slavs to Catholicism. Alexander Nevsky flatly refused to participate in the Crusade against the Tatars, saying to the Polish ambassadors Gold and Gement in the 1248 year: "We do not accept teachings from you." If Alexander Nevsky had not become the twin of Sartak, the son of Batu Khan, it is not known how the history of the Russians would have developed, at least at the western borders, because where they neglected Tatar help they lost their lands, culture, Orthodoxy. In addition, Batu Khan gave Tatar cavalry to help Alexander Nevsky. This is confirmed by the German chronicler of that time, Reinhold Heidenstein: “in 1242, Prince Alexander Yaroslavich was sent by the khan of the Tatar Batu and received the help of the Tatar troops” (see “Heritage of the Tatars” G.R. Enikeev). This is also confirmed by the fact that at the bottom of Lake Peipsi, many armor and weapons of Tatar warriors were found among Russian, German and Danish. And yet, in 1241, the forces of the Golden Horde launched a counterattack against the Catholic Jesuits, who began a crusade against Russia, thereby weakening them significantly on the eve of the victory of Alexander Nevsky on Lake Peipsi. This of course does not detract from the merits of the prince; he was a talented politician, diplomat and military commander.
    1. boom_bah
      boom_bah 13 December 2015 11: 29 New
      +3
      At the bottom of Lake Peipsi, they found nothing at all. Not in the lake itself, nor nearby.
      1. sovetskyturist
        sovetskyturist 13 December 2015 12: 44 New
        0
        so history was rewritten so that storytellers would fit and spit on them the truth
    2. Kombrig
      Kombrig 13 December 2015 11: 29 New
      +5
      Quote: Mangel Alys
      This is also confirmed by the fact that at the bottom of Lake Peipsi, many armor and weapons of Tatar warriors were found among Russian, German and Danish.


      You can, in more detail, about the sources describing these findings. As far as I know, the exact place of the battle has not yet been established and you are writing about MANY finds ... Yours faithfully.
      1. Mangel olys
        Mangel olys 13 December 2015 11: 56 New
        -1
        Quote: Kombrig
        Quote: Mangel Alys
        This is also confirmed by the fact that at the bottom of Lake Peipsi, many armor and weapons of Tatar warriors were found among Russian, German and Danish.


        You can, in more detail, about the sources describing these findings. As far as I know, the exact place of the battle has not yet been established and you are writing about MANY finds ... Yours faithfully.

        Historian and writer V.A. Chivilikhin (USSR) noted that when examining the bottom of Lake Peipsi on the site of the Battle of the Ice, quite a lot of what was left after that battle was discovered. (See. "Heritage of the Tatars", G.R. Enikeev)
        1. Kombrig
          Kombrig 13 December 2015 13: 07 New
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          Quote: Mangel Alys
          Historian and writer V.A. Chivilikhin (USSR) noted that when examining the bottom of Lake Peipsi on the site of the Battle of the Ice, quite a lot of what was left after that battle was discovered. (See. "Heritage of the Tatars", G.R. Enikeev)


          Thanks, I'll take a look....
        2. V.ic
          V.ic 13 December 2015 13: 36 New
          +3
          Quote: Mangel Alys
          Historian and writer V.A. Civilikhin

          With all due respect to V.A. Chivilikhin, he was not a historian, but a writer. His novel-essay "Memory" was read back in the 80s in the "Roman newspaper".
          1. 4thParasinok
            4thParasinok 19 December 2015 12: 50 New
            0
            open the wiki (do not throw slippers, the first thing that comes to hand):
            Vladimir Alekseevich Chivilikhin (1928-1984) - Russian Soviet writer. Laureate of the USSR State Prize (1982). Member of the CPSU since 1952.

            In 1954 he graduated from the Faculty of Journalism of Moscow State University. I got the distribution in the capital’s newspaper, and settled him in a dormitory on the edge of the Kuskovo park.

            Literary works
            In 1957 he published the documentary story "Living Force". Since 1961, a member of the joint venture of the USSR. Contemporaries are dedicated to the novel “About Klava Ivanov” (1964), “Christmas-tree winders” (1965), “Above Sea Level” (1967), “Motley Stone” (1969). The journalistic essays “A Month in Kedrograd,” “What Are the Russian Forests Noisy?”, “The Earth in Trouble”, “The Bright Eye of Siberia” (about Lake Baikal), and “Swedish Stops” are widely known.

            The last work of the writer, for writing which were used in a large volume of scientific developments of the Moscow historian Oleg Mikhailovich Rapov, was a novel-essay on Russian history, “Memory” (1978-1984), published in 2 books. The first book was published in the Novel-Gazeta (two parts, 1985, No. 3-4) after the writer's death. The second came out before the first during his lifetime. Then the two-volume edition was repeatedly reprinted. In the book, Chivilikhin criticizes Gumilyov for his allegations of the symbiosis of Great Russia with the Golden Horde [5]. The novel represents the author’s thoughts on the topics of the early history of Russia and is not a scientific and historical study.

            One of the most famous works of the writer is the documentary story “Silver Rails” - about the expedition of Alexander Koshurnikov to the Eastern Sayans in order to find the route of the Abakan - Nizhneudinsk railway (the Abakan - Taishet option was implemented).
        3. 4thParasinok
          4thParasinok 19 December 2015 12: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Mangel Alys
          Historian and writer V.A. Chivilikhin (USSR) noted

          but only they didn’t raise anything from the bottom, and the exact place was not shown to anyone, only words. In a word, "one grandmother said"
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  8. Kombrig
    Kombrig 13 December 2015 11: 25 New
    +1
    Why did the prince take the tonsure before his death? Simple logic: a monk is closer to God than a worldly person ... Acceptance of tonsure before death, for Russian princes and princesses, is probably not an exception, but a rule ... So, you should not look for some sacred meaning in this act ..
    1. Down House
      Down House 13 December 2015 12: 11 New
      -1
      Quote: Kombrig
      Taking a tonsure before death, for the Russian princes and princesses, is probably not an exception, but a rule

      Rather, PR, although in those days, the bulk of the people really were abundant believers.
    2. moskowit
      moskowit 13 December 2015 14: 45 New
      +1
      Absolutely right. Rather, tradition. And not only princes and princesses ...
    3. a housewife
      a housewife 14 December 2015 01: 50 New
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      Did he die that year? Perhaps, having accepted monasticism, he “died” for worldly life, changed his name to Alexei, and lived for another years in some monastery or even a hermit. The miracle of accepting a letter can be explained by this. He could lie in a coffin so that everyone would consider him dead, and take the extended letter automatically. I think he had a need to repent sins. And after all, not one such case in history. There is still the secret of Alexander the 1st.
  9. V.ic
    V.ic 13 December 2015 13: 43 New
    +4
    Something basically “down” with “fraer” is discussed with each other: in the words of Timur Shaov =
    "But we are cunning descendants: We know more, we drill deeper.
    In historical science Everything is otherwise denounced. "/ Lyricist Timur Shaov / ...
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 13 December 2015 14: 47 New
      +2
      Well, then they’re “Down” with “Fraer” ...
    2. fraer
      fraer 13 December 2015 15: 25 New
      -1
      Quote: V.ic
      "/ Lyricist Timur Shaov / ...

      Shaov? I do not know.
      But I know another.
      They don’t notice you from the beginning.
      Then they make fun of you
      Next, they declare war on you.
      And then you win !!! fellow (not literally)
      Guess who said, cookie, follow me
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 14 December 2015 18: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: fraer
        Shaov? I do not know.

        Timur Sultanovich Shaov / doctor pediatrician / author-performer / "Zikh" = Circassian /. His Russian texts are cleaner than the texts of Ibro-tskoy. In the author’s song stands apart, I would even say = fortress. To understand you need to listen carefully.
        Quote: fraer
        But I know another.
        Withstartedо they don’t notice you. //CnThe beginning is written together //
        Then they make fun of you
        Next, they declare war on you.
        And then you winsh!!!

        Three "asypki", however ... Too much.
        Quote: fraer
        Guess who said, cookie, follow me

        Eskenem, cookies, share with your colleagues, and if the text of the quote, you can attribute it to some famous Indian "surname" which began with the letter "G". If you delve into the quotes of the "Stoics", then there is such an immense amount of good.
  10. tanit
    tanit 13 December 2015 14: 38 New
    +3
    Quote: V.ic
    Something basically “down” with “fraer” is discussed with each other: in the words of Timur Shaov =

    Well, the keyword is "brains !!!!!!" hi
    What is missing and for whom - they miss it. hi
    1. fraer
      fraer 13 December 2015 14: 56 New
      0
      Quote: tanit
      Well, the keyword is "brains !!!!!!"

      Yes, I have two convolutions. Because two is already a lot. Catch a plus sign! fellow You came here for this.
      1. Down House
        Down House 13 December 2015 19: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: fraer
        Yes, I have two convolutions.

        Then I have one, you are the captain, and I'm old fellow
        Quote: fraer
        Catch a plus sign!

        And to you, today I’m closer to the "people" fellow
  11. rexby63
    rexby63 13 December 2015 15: 37 New
    +1
    bow to the mongolian gods


    Hmm, what is it?
  12. berkut9737
    berkut9737 13 December 2015 18: 12 New
    +1
    “Why did the victorious prince need monasticism at the end of his life?”

    ***
    Glow with glory
    Monastic cross from afar.
    Do not turn to eternal peace?
    And what is life without a hood? ..


    Alexander Block August 1914
  13. Pomeranian
    Pomeranian 13 December 2015 20: 54 New
    -1
    Yes, the great "holy" prince. After Nevyruyev’s ratification, which Alexander Yaroslavich called on to Russia, was completely depopulated and fell into decay, the backbone of Vladimir Russia - Opole. Nevruyev’s army, sent by the spine of Yaroslavich Sartak Batyevich, damaged the North-Eastern Russia more than the invasion of Batu.
    1. Down House
      Down House 13 December 2015 22: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Pomoryanin
      After Nevyruyev’s ratification, which Alexander Yaroslavich called on to Russia, was completely depopulated and fell into decay the backbone of Vladimir Russia - Opole. Nevruyev’s army, sent by the spine of Yaroslavich Sartak Batyevich, damaged the North-Eastern Russia more than the invasion of Batu.

      And let's remember the anthropic principle and refrain from a “qualitative” assessment of the deeds of those years - it was so long ago that we have to respect and remember those times at most.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 14 December 2015 17: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Down House
        And let's remember about anthropic principle and refrain from a "qualitative" assessment of the acts of those years

        What principle have you discovered, "anthropic"? Is it from the root "anthropos "/ person / whether from the root"entropia "... Specify if this does not complicate you. With your" scholarship "you plunge to ashes all who dare to read your statements.
  14. Ratmir
    Ratmir 13 December 2015 22: 07 New
    +2
    Judging by the amount of lies that the Holy Warrior, the defender of Russia Alexander Nevsky, is still trying to dirty today, his image is a real role model for Russian people. Not for the "Russian passport", the belly of thinking individuals, but for the Russian people. Saint Alexander is ideal for a politician, warrior, citizen. Why did the prince not please the slaves of liberal ideology? He did not submit to their spiritual master, the Sodomite and heretical West. Moreover, he did not submit, shamed Western ideologists in a dispute, and then completely defeated their troops. Further, realizing that Russia is not yet able to get rid of the Horde, which, as part of the autonomy, was included as the "uluchi Dzhuchi", he established good relations with the Horde, thereby saving thousands of Russian people from death, captivity and ruin. His youngest son, Daniel of Moscow, is the real founder of Moscow and began to strengthen and strengthen Moscow, which later led to Kulikov Field and further to the independence of a powerful Russian state. By the way, the initiator of the All-Russian glorification of the previously locally revered miracle worker St. Prince Alexandra was the first Russian Tsar Ivan the Terrible, another nightmare of liberal harlot.
    1. Severomor
      Severomor 13 December 2015 22: 43 New
      0
      I put a plus, although there is a question, why did you decide that:
      that Russia is not yet able to get rid of the Horde, which, in fact, was part of the autonomy as the "Jochi Ulus", established good relations with the Horde, thereby saving thousands of Russian people from death, captivity and ruin
      1. Ratmir
        Ratmir 13 December 2015 22: 50 New
        +1
        Honestly, a strange question, it’s not me who decided, this is an objective reality. If there was an opportunity to resolve the issue with the Horde by military means, it (the question) would be resolved by armed means, unfortunately then there was no such possibility, after three years of resistance of the Asian army of the invasion, Russia was not able to start a new large-scale war with the Horde. Only 150 years later, such an opportunity became a reality.
        1. Severomor
          Severomor 13 December 2015 23: 10 New
          0
          If there was an opportunity to resolve the issue with the Horde by military means, it (the question) would be resolved by military means, unfortunately then there was no such possibility

          And why did you decide that someone was going to solve the issue by armed means? It was not just that, under pain of death, it was forbidden to touch the priests. For 150 years, the "yoke" of the church is not so sickly got rich. 10% tribute .... - this is nothing, I have a payroll tax of 3 units, more))))
          By the way, it’s not enough to talk about the father of Alexander Yaroslavich, but he periodically fought with the ON, in 1239 he “went to Smolensk” (although where the “Tatars” go to Russian land)))).
          In 1243, Yaroslav the first of the Russian princes was summoned to the Golden Horde to Batu. It was approved in Vladimir and, apparently, the Kiev princes and was recognized as "old by all the prince in the Russian language." - this is after the Battle of the Ice (1242).
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    3. kalibr
      kalibr 13 December 2015 22: 45 New
      -2
      Quote: RATMIR
      to the Sodomite and heretical West.

      That is, in Russia there was nothing of the above?
      1. Ratmir
        Ratmir 13 December 2015 22: 52 New
        +3
        Of course not, Russia was Orthodox, and the West, having fallen away from the Truth in 1054, went a different way. From the 11th century, and begins, continuing to this day, Western aggression against the rest, non-Western world.
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 14 December 2015 18: 19 New
          -1
          And if we honor the treasures of the 16 and 17 centuries, canons profess how to laymen and Chernets? What if we learn from them that Chernets even lustfully looked at the icons (!), Masturbated while singing and reading while standing, and so they entered the altar. There is also about fornication with cattle and much more. So people are people everywhere. By the way, the Japanese captain Kodayu in his memoirs (1792) was very surprised that the Russians constantly talk about zoppa ebeto, but they refuse to offer it. But they say ... So the fall from the Truth by itself, but how .... everything is the same here!
          1. Ratmir
            Ratmir 19 December 2015 11: 30 New
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            What you said is particular. Indeed, after the fall man fell very low. However, along with the baseness, we constantly see other examples, examples of self-sacrifice, mercy, life according to Christ the Lord. Maybe it would be better not to look for the negative, which is always enough, but to pay attention to the Lives of the saints.
            1. kalibr
              kalibr 20 December 2015 08: 11 New
              0
              If you just read these inscriptions, you will see that 80% of the questions there are devoted to digging out the details of the confessor's intimate life. Why did the priests need it? And the lives of the saints. Well, how many were these saints and how many normal women and men, that ... in the hayloft, let the evil spirit in their fur coats, drunk, and profaned from the heart. Here he is the people. And saints are an unattainable exception!
  15. kalibr
    kalibr 13 December 2015 22: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: Mangel Alys
    This is also confirmed by the fact that at the bottom of Lake Peipsi, many armor and weapons of Tatar warriors were found among Russian, German and Danish.

    The first time I read about this. Rather, the second! The first one was in 1964, I read an article in UT. There was a similar phrase and the editorial’s remark that the author ... of that ... "is not entirely accurate" that the RAS expedition did not find anything. And since then nothing has been found. Alas, but if you find it, share the source of information, but only in print, please!
    1. Severomor
      Severomor 13 December 2015 23: 14 New
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      For once, I agree with you.
      The logic is iron)))), if only the Teutons sank, then the weapons and armor of Russian combatants are much easier. But this is not so. Weight is comparable. So drowned together. And if everyone was drowning, then who won? )))))))
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  16. Dimachrus
    Dimachrus 13 December 2015 23: 31 New
    0
    It is interesting, but did any of the debaters think about this question - by whom, when, and most importantly - for what purpose was the term “Tatar-Mongols” introduced?
    Mongols and Tatars neighbors? Do they have anything in common in everyday life, culture, beliefs? Military victories are, first and foremost, victories in weapons technology and schools of strategy and tactics. Can anyone tell me about the breakthrough technologies of the Mongols or Tatars at that time? Mongol fighting horse 130 centimeters at the withers? Tatar blacksmiths left a mark in the history of iron processing?
    The Mongol gods are generally something! Has the name of at least one survived to this day?
    Almost a thousand years ago they owned half of the known world, and when did they receive their writing? There are many questions, but there are intelligible answers - even hints are not observed ...
    Truly the story is made by the one who writes it ......
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 14 December 2015 01: 58 New
      +2
      Go to the embassy of Mongolia and ask what merits they have erected such a huge monument to Genghis Khan?
      1. Mangel olys
        Mangel olys 14 December 2015 06: 39 New
        0
        Yes, modern Khalkha-Mongols do not even know about the campaigns of their ancestors to the west. Why? Because it is a completely different people.
    2. Mangel olys
      Mangel olys 14 December 2015 06: 46 New
      -1
      Here is about metalworking and samurai swords made of Tatar steel: http://www.business-gazeta.ru/readblog/2791/6150/
      1. kalibr
        kalibr 14 December 2015 18: 20 New
        +1
        This is not a source! Sources are completely different: scientific articles by famous experts and monographs of reputable publishers.
        1. Mangel olys
          Mangel olys 15 December 2015 15: 40 New
          -1
          Dear Caliber, this is an article by Rafael Khakimov, Vice President of the Academy of Sciences of the Republic of Tatarstan, Director of the Institute of History named after Mardzhani AN RT, director of the ANNO Kazan Institute of Federalism, deputy of the State Council of the RT of the fourth convocation. Are these titles not authoritative for you? Are you also an academician?
          1. 4thParasinok
            4thParasinok 19 December 2015 13: 04 New
            +1
            these titles do not mean anything, today anyone can become an academician by creating his own “academy,” the laws of the Russian Federation allow. Personally, to receive such a title of "academician" it is enough to ask relatives who have their own "fed" academy. They even work with the RAS.

            I won’t give names, for nothing ...
          2. kalibr
            kalibr 20 December 2015 08: 15 New
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            You know, I don’t really trust these small-town academics. At one time, in Soviet times, he defended a thesis on the party leadership of university science. He worked in the archives of the Komsomol Central Committee. And there were documents ... of the Soviet era, how eyes were closed on posts from nats.okrain. If only there were their own Ph.D., associate professors and academicians. And now, for the sake of the unity of the peoples of the Russian Federation, you can go for anything! Does he have publications in the SCOPUS system?
  17. Dimachrus
    Dimachrus 13 December 2015 23: 32 New
    -1
    It is interesting, but did any of the debaters think about this question - by whom, when, and most importantly - for what purpose was the term “Tatar-Mongols” introduced?
    Mongols and Tatars neighbors? Do they have anything in common in everyday life, culture, beliefs? Military victories are, first and foremost, victories in weapons technology and schools of strategy and tactics. Can anyone tell me about the breakthrough technologies of the Mongols or Tatars at that time? Mongol fighting horse 130 centimeters at the withers? Tatar blacksmiths left a mark in the history of iron processing?
    The Mongol gods are generally something! Has the name of at least one survived to this day?
    Almost a thousand years ago they owned half of the known world, and when did they receive their writing? There are many questions, but there are intelligible answers - even hints are not observed ...
    Truly the story is made by the one who writes it ......
    1. Pomeranian
      Pomeranian 14 December 2015 00: 22 New
      +1
      Of course. Offhand - the god of War Sulde, the god of heaven - Tengri ..
    2. Ratmir
      Ratmir 14 December 2015 16: 11 New
      +1
      Here is the material on the history of the Mongols, containing the works of different authors: http://fictionbook.ru/static/trials/00/65/33/00653325.a4.pdf
  18. Alekst
    Alekst 15 December 2015 10: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: Semurg
    siblings Alexander and Andrei began to fight against each other. Horde helped Alexander, the damned steppes again burned Russia Vladimirovskaya?

    the brothers began to fight among themselves, and as always the steppes are to blame?
    1. Pomeranian
      Pomeranian 15 December 2015 20: 03 New
      -1
      Sorry, nonsense. Andrei, along with Daniil Galitsky, tried to organize an anti-Mongol uprising.
      1. 4thParasinok
        4thParasinok 19 December 2015 13: 13 New
        +1
        Dpniil Galitsky had only one goal - personal power at all costs. For the sake of this, he went to any betrayal, false oaths (a good example is the story of the destruction of Kiev in 1240) and even a change of faith. And Andrei was married to his daughter, and even that patriot. That’s all the “reasons” for supposedly anti-Mongol resistance.