Poland received the last batch of "Leopards"

Polish Defense Ministry received the last batch tanks "Leopard-2" from the German army, reports TSAMTO.

The contract for the supply of 119 tanks and 200 units of other equipment was signed in November 2013 g, its cost was $ 180 million.

According to the newspaper, “the agreement provided for the supply of 119 tanks, including 105 units. in the version "Leopard-2A5", 14 units. in the version of "Leopard-2A4", as well as 200 units. other equipment and equipment, including: 18 BREM BPZ-2 "Bergepanzer", 40 passenger cars Mercedes-Benz 250 GD "Wolf" with the wheel formula 4X4, 120 middle-duty trucks of medium-carrying capacity Daimler-Benz 1017; light duty trucks DB U-4L with wheel formula 4X40, equipment for overcoming OBT "Leopard-1300" deep water barriers, laser shooting simulator AGDUS for OBT "Leopard-4A4", machine guns and radio stations for OBT "Zeopte" Geopard-2A2 ", machine guns and radio stations for OBT; BREM BPZ-5 "Bergepanzer" ”.

The first 11 tanks were delivered in May 2014.

According to the magazine Jane's Differences Weekly, a representative of the 34-th armored cavalry brigade of the Polish Land Forces, Captain Rafal Nowak, on November 28, the unit received the last batch of MBT Leopard-2А5. Now the team is equipped with 14-s tanks "Leopard-2A4" and 105 with newer "Leopard-2A5".

The remaining equipment, including automobiles, is expected to arrive in Poland at 2016.

It is noted that "Leopards" replaced the main tanks PT-91 "Tvardy" (Polish version T-72М) that were in service.

Comments

[Air Force captain]

Well, that is not extreme ... and the latter is good

[mirag2]

But "2A5" is the last modification? - if yes, it is very inexpensive for everything.

[spech]

What is the year of production of this equipment, otherwise it is possible to upgrade it with a residual resource of 5%.

[potap6509]

Крайняя"2А7":http://topwar.ru/5458-tank-leopard-2a7.html

[APASUS]

Quote: mirag2

But "2A5" is the last modification? - if yes, it is very inexpensive for everything.

What's the last one?

In 2010, at the Eurosatory exhibition, the German company Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) demonstrated a new, seventh modification of the Leopard 2 tank, called the Leopard 2A7 +.

It’s very surprising how these admirers of the American idea bought tanks from the Germans, because Poland so wants to take Germany’s place in Europe at the political level. It turns out that the Germans and Poles are participating in an unspoken race for the minds of Europeans, while being pushed by .. Americans

[tankovod]

No, there are still modifications 2a6 and 2a7

[222222]

Poland received the last batch of "Leopards"
.Now Poland -BREAKED ...

[Patient]

I welcome, 2A7 is the last modification, but this is a piece product, Germany itself has one unit, not to mention deliveries to Poland.

[78bor1973]

It looks like the Bundeswehr is not going to fight!

[DenZ]

Very similar to overseas tactics. And this is alarming.

[Resident007]

Well, I just can't believe that humanity is ready to start a world war again .. How all the same memory is dulled and the lessons of history teach nothing! Or maybe this is the only and last chance for the existence of their people, like the Poles "either pan, or disappeared .."? In principle, the Poles are already thinking about the European Union. Only how can they not understand that a fan of threat is blowing from the Middle East, the Islamic East, from where a full-scale occupation of Europe is already underway without war! And if they need the resources of Russia (at least they say that we only need resources), then if they would have moved to the Middle East - there they are also filled up in full! Why don't they go to war against them? Moreover, there is a precedent - the Islamization of Europe - like a crusade. No - it is the Russians who are to blame for everything, these wild barbarians from the north east! A European will be slaughtered by an Arab, and he will blame the Russian for this! Paradox! And everyone suffers, everyone ...

[Vadim237]

History teaches us that it teaches nothing — everything is quickly forgotten.

[cniza]

[quote = Vadim237] History teaches that it does not teach anything - everything is quickly forgotten. [/ quote


Unfortunately, you are right, each generation repeats the mistakes of their ancestors.

[Lord of the Sith]

And Ukraine said that it will modernize its T-72 to the level of the Polish RT-91. Only everyone doubted that this was modernization, most likely the usual transfer of weapons to the Armed Forces.

[foxic]

it is bad that now in Poland there is an excess of "twards" (t72), and with a high probability they can be expected in the Donbass ...

[NEXUS]

Poland imagines itself to be the new Commonwealth. Poles are equally the same warriors as Georgians. And I would like to ask a question - what are you Poles, today, in fact, without the USA?

[sever.56]

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/440/mcop329.png

[mirag2]

and what are you Poles, today, in fact, without the United States?

-the same as Israel without the United States.

[NEXUS]

Quote: mirag2

-the same as Israel without the United States.

No, Israel has a good, combat-ready and mobile army and navy. And Poland, what apples and dreams of a part of Ukraine?

[Sober]

Quote: mirag2

-the same as Israel without the United States.

Same as the USA without Israel.

[Sober]

Quote: NEXUS

ask a question, what are you Poles, today, in fact, without the United States?

And they will answer: but we are all!

[kodxnumx]

Tigers, Panthers, already burned on the Kursk, the line will reach the Leopards, I think the torch from them ultra modern will turn out so to speak environmentally friendly

[NEXUS]

Quote: kod3001

Tigers, Panthers, already burned on the Kursk, the line will reach the Leopards, I think the torch from them ultra modern will turn out so to speak environmentally friendly

I wonder what they think, looking at these tanks and the squeals of the Polish elite towards Russia, the Polish war veterans who fought alongside Russian soldiers? Apparently also about the Tigers and Panthers burning on Russian soil.

[gladcu2]

NEXUS

No one asks Polish veterans. Poles remember Soviet times well. Everything they had and lived stably.

And now they live, who like. Who is better, who is worse. Poisoned by the lies of the media, directed anti-Russian. Without knowing the whole truth, they cannot be responsible for the actions of their government. And come.

Replacing Western-style equipment is the standardization of a single platform.

[Sober]

Quote: NEXUS

Polish war veterans who fought alongside Russian soldiers?

There are few of them left, and the voice is weak, and the forces are not the same.

[Imperialkolorad]

Rather ultra-expensive.

[BABA SHURA]

You need to hunt on the territory of the reserve where these same Lapards live !!!

[infantryman2020]

Our losses of armored vehicles on the Kursk Bulge are 4 (four) times higher than in Germany. Again cheap cheers-patriotism.

[NEXUS]

Quote: infantryman2020

Our losses of armored vehicles on the Kursk Bulge are 4 (four) times higher than in Germany.

Only due to the fact that the cannon near the Tiger effectively knocked out our tanks at a distance of 2 km, and our 34 matches had to go at a distance of 500-800 meters in order to guaranteed break through the German tank. Therefore, the losses are the same. But at the same time, while the Germans collected one Tiger on the line, the USSR produced 5 t-34s.

Quote: infantryman2020

Again cheap cheers-patriotism.

You dear, do not confuse the memory of that Victory with the cheap exhaust of the patriots cheers.

[UREC]

I would like to add that the Tiger is a heavy tank with appropriate armor, and the T-34 is medium. The guns mounted on the tanks had a shell of various powers. Advantage 34 ki only higher speed and maneuverability.

[NEXUS]

Quote: UREC

I would like to add that the Tiger is a heavy tank with appropriate armor, and the T-34 is medium. The guns mounted on the tanks had a shell of various powers. Advantage 34 ki only higher speed and maneuverability.

At the same time, the Tiger had a significant problem, this is the dissonance of the mass of the tank with engine power. Many cars were thrown on the march because of this.

[vladstro]

German tanks in Poland as in the 39th, so by analogy after 2 years we have to wait for them, and after four more our teshes will be back in Berlin.

[asiat_61]

ON_A torch?

[Tiheros]

I think that burn This time they will be much more west.

[prabiz]

AGAIN GERMAN EQUIPMENT WILL REPLACE THE POLISH LAND

[Lanista]

"It is curious to see how you will burn" (c) S. Marshak (in the original about a light bulb, but applicable to this situation).
And yes

Polish Defense Ministry received the last batch of tanks "Leopord-2 ”from the German army, TsAMTO reports.

Then Leuperd is better.

[Monos]

Grandfathers burned "Tigers" and "Panthers", grandchildren will have to burn "Leopards". Fate.

[Belarus]

For the sake of interest, it should be noted that the "Lerpard-2" is a good tank. But I still have a question: in what configuration did these tanks arrive in Poland? After all, you can also put tanks in a simple, i.e. without modification bells and whistles.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Belarus

For the sake of interest, it should be noted that the "Lerpard-2" is a good tank. But I still have a question: in what configuration did these tanks arrive in Poland? After all, you can also put tanks in a simple, i.e. without modification bells and whistles.

Yes, in any configuration and modification for the T-90C this is not a bad rival, digestible .A Armata, and even game.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: NEXUS

Yes, in any configuration and modification for the T-90C, this is not a bad rival, digestible. And Armata, it’s completely game

Well, we can say little about the Armata tank.
As for the T-90, this is a deep modernization of the 72nd platform. The 120-mm projectile that hits the T-72 is guaranteed to disable it. RPG-7 (or equivalent), guaranteed disables the t-72, proved by the war 08.08.08.
When one of the fighters of the South Ossetian resistance shot exactly at the space between the tower and the hull. The crew didn’t even manage to get out, the Georgian tank was torn to shreds (by the way, the tank was modernized by the Israelis, and the latest ballistic computer was installed there, among other things).

[NEXUS]

Quote: _Vladislav_

As for the T-90, this is a deep modernization of the 72 platform.

Deep modernization, this is essentially a new tank. Now let's recall the price and compare. And also remember the training course on the Leopard and on the T-90С, (I'm talking about the level of students and the duration of training).

Quote: _Vladislav_

The 120-mm projectile that hits the T-72 is guaranteed to disable it.

125 mm cannon shell 2A46M-5, guaranteed to knock out the Leopard.
And in the appendage, we recall the repair suitability in the field, as well as the mass of these tanks.
About the time spent on the production of one unit, I will not say anything.

[Vadim237]

Most likely a cumulative shot with armor penetration of 800 Leopard 2 in the forehead will withstand, as well as MPS Mango M.

[mav1971]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: _Vladislav_

As for the T-90, this is a deep modernization of the 72 platform.

Deep modernization, this is essentially a new tank. Now let's recall the price and compare. And also remember the training course on the Leopard and on the T-90С, (I'm talking about the level of students and the duration of training).

Quote: _Vladislav_

The 120-mm projectile that hits the T-72 is guaranteed to disable it.

125 mm cannon shell 2A46M-5, guaranteed to knock out the Leopard.
And in the appendage, we recall the repair suitability in the field, as well as the mass of these tanks.
About the time spent on the production of one unit, I will not say anything.

Teach materiel!
The cost of modern Russian weapons has become at least the same, if not more expensive, than Western ones.
Which, for me, is already complete nonsense, for the wages of Russian workers in 3-4 are times less.
T-90 at 2011 prices of the year was 120 million dollars - which was 4 million dollars. Exactly the same price is Leopard 2A6.
And the same Armata was already considered at the beginning of the 2014 year under 7-8 million dollars. And even in general, some estimated at 13 million dollars.
Pre-crisis!


forget about that. what happened in Soviet times.
everything has changed.
Stop hatred.
Who are you going to put at the leverage of tanks?
In Soviet times, there was a huge mass of tractor drivers working in agriculture, graduates of rural schools, where they taught labor to drive trucks and tractors.

Where is the last 25 years?
No.
Well, learn not to tongue grind nonsense, but to think. Just think a little!

[NEXUS]

Exactly the same price is Leopard 2A6.

Germany in 2006-2009 exported (mainly licensed production of MBT Leopard-2 in Greece and Spain) 292 MBT worth 3,03 billion dollars. For the period 2010-2013. the order portfolio is so far 122 new cars worth 1,21 billion dollars. Price parameter for one MBT in 2006-2009 made up 10,38 million dollars, in 2010-2013 years. - 9,92 million dollars

Quote: mav1971

Well, learn not to tongue grind nonsense, but to think. Just think a little!

Can you learn this?

[mav1971]

Quote: NEXUS

Exactly the same price is Leopard 2A6.

Germany in 2006-2009 exported (mainly licensed production of MBT Leopard-2 in Greece and Spain) 292 MBT worth 3,03 billion dollars. For the period 2010-2013. the order portfolio is so far 122 new cars worth 1,21 billion dollars. Price parameter for one MBT in 2006-2009 made up 10,38 million dollars, in 2010-2013 years. - 9,92 million dollars

Contracts on it were on 4.5 - 4.9 million dollars. For Germany.

Quote from the same site "Former First Deputy Head of the Main Armored Directorate of the Ministry of Defense (GABTU), Lieutenant General of the Reserve Yuri Kovalenko, cited other figures. According to him, the cost of the T-90A is somewhere in the range of 70 million rubles. the Abrams tank - 217 million rubles, the French Leclerc - 255 million, the German Leopard-2 - 167 million, and the Ukrainian T-80 - 120 million rubles. In other words, our tank is the cheapest. But the cost of one tank of the "Armata" project , according to estimates, sounded in open sources, will exceed 400 million rubles (there was no official confirmation of this figure and could not be). "
http://topwar.ru/62930-cena-tanka-armata-vyzvala-spory.html

Where does 10 million dollars come from?

Quote: mav1971

Well, learn not to tongue grind nonsense, but to think. Just think a little!

Can you learn this?

Well, well.
Urya-Urya!

[Fafnir]

A huge mass of tractor drivers did not disappear. Nearby SPTU produces about 120 people a year. As in Soviet times. Schools teach truck driving, though not in labor lessons , and in DOSAAF (free of charge, of course, on "C", from the military enlistment office). I don’t know for sure about rural schools, but it seems that a decent part of the school has preserved matbaza and, accordingly, training. At least this applies to the Volgograd region.

[Forest]

Not every Leo will pierce any 72-ku in the forehead. In the stern of modern MBT even from KPVT with armored personnel carriers can be burned.

[Vadim237]

Given the characteristics of the new German ammunition - the T 72B3 will break through at 100, and at the expense of the stern - you need to get close to it from the beginning - the optical instruments on German tanks are excellent.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vadim237

Given the characteristics of the new German ammunition - the T 72B3 will break through at 100, and at the expense of the stern - you need to get close to it from the beginning - the optical instruments on German tanks are excellent.

If we were talking about the confrontation, then we can recall the ammunition Invar-M, Reflex-M, which work very well on armor.

[Forest]

The latest BOPS from the Germans only on Leo 2A7, of which 20 pieces. I wrote about stern for all tanks, because in the comment above it is written that not only the shell, but also the RPG is able to knock out 72-ku. Leo, therefore, is everywhere monolithic 500-700-mm armor as protected in the forehead. But in fact - modern MBTs quite realistically can not penetrate each other at all, because to have the declared 800-900 mm penetration at 2 km under 60 grad for Rh120 / L55 - something is very doubtful.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Forest

The latest BOPS from the Germans only on Leo 2A7, of which 20 pieces. I wrote about stern for all tanks, because in the comment above it is written that not only the shell, but also the RPG is capable of knocking out a 72-ku. Leo, therefore, is everywhere protected by a monolithic 500-700 mm armor as in his forehead.

Reflex-M has an armor penetration of 900 mm

[Forest]

Firstly, Reflex is a TOUR with a cumulative warhead, not a BOPS. Secondly, with an average battle distance of 500-1500 m, there is nowhere for the TOURs to turn around for the European theater of operations, as in Chechnya, they will work at maximum with snipers and machine guns with 3-4 km, at least they won’t even put them in the carousel.

[Vadim237]

At the Steel Research Institute, it was already calculated that the DM 63 penetrates 2 millimeters of armor at a range of 60 kilometers at an angle of 1000.

[Forest]

While there were no shelling of armor - it is too early to talk about armor penetration. 1000 mm at 2 km smacks of nonsense.

[Vadim237]

We don’t know what ammunition was delivered to these tanks, otherwise it may turn out that T 90 and all other tanks can become a game - one hit and hello.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vadim237

We don’t know what ammunition was delivered to these tanks, otherwise it may turn out that T 90 and all other tanks can become a game - one hit and hello.

Tank battles have long ceased to exist. The same Leopold is easily beaten out by the Night Hunter or Chrysanthemum. And to the question of ammunition, there is nothing impenetrable. And the German burns just as good as any other tank. And Krasnopol, the T-90 can easily and simply at a distance that is beyond the reach of Leopold’s cannon.

[Vadim237]

To use the Reflex tank guided missiles at the maximum range, good weather conditions and flat terrain are required.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vadim237

To use the Reflex tank guided missiles at the maximum range, good weather conditions and flat terrain are required.

To stop this useless argument, I’ll ask you one question: “How many tanks (of all varieties) are NATO armed with and how many do we have? If you answer this question, you will get an answer to the question of tank confrontation between us and anyone else It was.
Best regards

[Vadim237]

So here another question arises - how many NATO countries have ATGMs hitting the top of the tower and how many such systems do we have.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vadim237

So here another question arises - how many NATO countries have ATGMs hitting the top of the tower and how many such systems do we have.

Take it in the complex, taking into account ALL the means of hitting tanks. For example, the same Chrysanthemum, which has 15 missiles with armor penetration of 1200 mm and two on a platoon. This is me, for example ...
Best regards

[mav1971]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Vadim237

We don’t know what ammunition was delivered to these tanks, otherwise it may turn out that T 90 and all other tanks can become a game - one hit and hello.

Tank battles have long ceased to exist. The same Leopold is easily beaten out by the Night Hunter or Chrysanthemum. And to the question of ammunition, there is nothing impenetrable. And the German burns just as good as any other tank. And Krasnopol, the T-90 can easily and simply at a distance that is beyond the reach of Leopold’s cannon.

No helicopters in Europe?
Tigers there, Apaches, Italian A-129 - not anti-tank helicopters?

Krasnopoli almost all burned up during the explosions of arsenals.
and the caliber of Krasnopol is 152mm, which is not a tank caliber at all!
Learn the materiel again!
And Krasnopol is not a panacea. not the best option.
The Hindus abandoned the second batch due to the poor quality of the shells.
The cost of Krasnopol at the moment is 6 million rubles.

[NEXUS]

Quote: mav1971

and the caliber of Krasnopol is 152mm, which is not a tank caliber at all!

Then I just confused with Reflex. My mistake. Thank you for correcting me.

Quote: mav1971

No helicopters in Europe?
Tigers there, Apaches, Italian A-129 - not anti-tank helicopters?

At the European theater of war, do you seriously believe that these helicopters can do anything? Blessed is anyone who believes.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vadim237

We don’t know what ammunition was delivered to these tanks, otherwise it may turn out that T 90 and all other tanks can become a game - one hit and hello.

So we have ammunition not WWII

[mav1971]

Quote: NEXUS

.... .A Armata, and even game.

You have already been told more than a dozen times: "Don't say gop, don't put the cart in front of the horse, don't brag about going to the army" - you don't care, like a parrot Popka, carry nonsense ...
There is no Almaty! no!
it is not in the troops. and 10 will not be yet.
For around the ass in the economy! And there is simply no money for mass production of Almaty!
When will you start living realities?

[NEXUS]

Quote: mav1971

You have already been told more than a dozen times: "Don't say gop, don't put the cart in front of the horse, don't brag about going to the army" - you don't care, like a parrot Popka, carry nonsense ...

Dear, from branch to branch, I observe only one picture, these are your bubbles and ambition, which is whipping over the edge. At the same time, you really look like that parrot with an overestimated self-esteem, seriously believing that the level of your knowledge is unbelievable.

Quote: mav1971

There is no Almaty! no!
it is not in the troops. and 10 will not be yet.

Your right to think so.

Quote: mav1971

For around the ass in the economy! And there is simply no money for mass production of Almaty!

Raise your hands and go to surrender. What is not your post, so "everything is kapets how bad it is in Russia." Why do you live in such a shitty state?

Quote: mav1971

When will you start living realities?

I live by reality and don’t whine about the fact that everything in my country is bad and it's time to collect a bag and crawl slowly to the cemetery. I work, provide for my family, and certainly if I earn somewhere worse than I want, I don’t pay blaming GDP, and his environment, but just working more and more productively, so that everything is enough for all the needs of my family.

[mav1971]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: mav1971

You have already been told more than a dozen times: "Don't say gop, don't put the cart in front of the horse, don't brag about going to the army" - you don't care, like a parrot Popka, carry nonsense ...

Dear, from branch to branch, I observe only one picture, these are your bubbles and ambition, which is whipping over the edge. At the same time, you really look like that parrot with an overestimated self-esteem, seriously believing that the level of your knowledge is unbelievable.

Quote: mav1971

There is no Almaty! no!
it is not in the troops. and 10 will not be yet.

Your right to think so.

Quote: mav1971

For around the ass in the economy! And there is simply no money for mass production of Almaty!

Raise your hands and go to surrender. What is not your post, so "everything is kapets how bad it is in Russia." Why do you live in such a shitty state?

Quote: mav1971

When will you start living realities?

I live by reality and don’t whine about the fact that everything in my country is bad and it's time to collect a bag and crawl slowly to the cemetery. I work, provide for my family, and certainly if I earn somewhere worse than I want, I don’t pay blaming GDP, and his environment, but just working more and more productively, so that everything is enough for all the needs of my family.

On the topic, that is, what can I say?
What about the numbers?
Or just stick out your insults?
How many Armata tanks are in service?
What parts are equipped with them?
do not answer me - answer this question for yourself.
Go to the mirror and answer.
And learn to be an adult.
Learn to understand that there is not only white and black.
If I hate the stupid hat-making rya-patriotism, then this does not mean. that I am an enemy of my homeland!
I love her! maybe more of yours!
That's just weaned me to disregard the enemies.
And you can’t release a sportsman against a master of sports. As if he didn’t want to. For he has neither strength, nor technology, nor experience.
Here we are now.
No strength, no technology - you need to save!
In the meantime, save up - sit and watch! notice everything, study everything! what he is and how he is!
What would then - when you will be equal in strength and technique - to "beat with a shovel" in vulnerable spots! and on the spot.
And you’ll climb now - they’ll knock over with one blow. And you won’t crawl out of the ring yourself. Have to take it!

[NEXUS]

Quote: mav1971

On the topic, that is, what can I say?
What about the numbers?
Or just stick out your insults?

Yes, what grievances are, Lord. You do not measure everyone by yourself. Just learn to respect the opinion of your opponent, and not stick out your rudeness. This is definitely not an adult.

Quote: mav1971

How many Armata tanks are in service?
What parts are equipped with them?
do not answer me - answer this question for yourself.

You dear say that in 10 years the Armata will appear in the units. But I think in 2-4 years (it all depends on the tests). And about how many Armata there are in the army, the conversation was about "what a good Leopard tank -2 ". And for me the same T-90S is no worse.

Quote: mav1971

Learn to understand that there is not only white and black.

Here you go ... and get the cards in your hands.

Quote: mav1971

If I hate the stupid hat-making rya-patriotism, then this does not mean. that I am an enemy of my homeland!

And who is throwing hats here? How many tanks of various modifications are available in Russia and how many are the whole of NATO? It’s not to drag them across the Atlantic, but everything is nearby.

Quote: mav1971

I love her! maybe more of yours!

Honor and praise if you sincerely say this.

Quote: mav1971

That's just weaned me to disregard the enemies.

Where did you see, in my post, that I do not care about the enemy then? If I think that our T-90C is no worse than the Leopard, this is not a disregard, and my opinion is not forbidden on the forum to anyone, not even you.

Quote: mav1971

No strength, no technology - you need to save!
In the meantime, save up - sit and watch! notice everything, study everything! what he is and how he is!

And, excuse me, I said that tomorrow, with a cry - ALYA ULYU! Break with a tank wedge to "level" the tracks of our tanks to Europe?
You will learn at least sometimes to listen to your opponent, and not be rude and "bend your fingers", believing that the people sitting on this forum are dark, while you are a beacon at the end of this tunnel.

[mvg]

Nexus, you confused a person with me ... :-) See, my words are told to you by another person and not one :-).
you live in the clouds !!!
Here, by the way, is a table on the modern shells of the OPS OBPS. These are not the ones you read about and of which 1.5 are in the whole country.
http://btvt.narod.ru/4/bps.htm

I wish the Syrians had these 120 Leopards at a price of $ 1 million per unit, like Poles ..

[Tiheros]

Sorry to meet you. But as a resident of Europe I would like to know from you at least one European economy that is not in the house, with the exception of Scandinavia

[From Samara]

A good tank Leopard, one of the best in the world ...

[ALABAY45]

Everything is clear with this "Acceptance point"! Now, I am interested in another topic: after all, the tiger Cupid will devour Timur's goat ?!

[evil partisan]

Quote: ALABAY45

Still, the tiger Amur goat Timur gobbled up?

Well, if that’s him in the heat of the goat calls, then yes.
Hi, undershot

[aba]

Received and received, and what of this ?! But will they make the weather ?!

[Wolverine]

Yes, we are on the drum, tigers are рыmigres, leopards, they burn equally well.

[Gormenghast]

The Poles are already shaking with fear (before Russia ), and the equipment, anyway, is buying a used one.

Second-hand army in a used state.

[Uhalus]

Interestingly, how will they service, repair them? It’s not enough to get tanks, you need a base, parts, personnel ... They, it seems, are refueling completely not by what our T-72s are eating. A complete set? - basic, for developing countries?

[DobryAAH]

Leoperds, so leoperds, we’ll figure it out.

[Bronik]

They will sell their obsolete Dill, I think one and a half times more expensive than these bought. He is a business in Poland, too. More precisely especially in Poland.

[Olegater]

Poland received the last batch of "Leopards" I was pleased with this title, and the main word the last.

[bear]

And the preparations all go quietly !!!

[SPB 1221]

A country that is p / r / o / s / t / and / t / u / t / c / o / y / should not receive condoms but tanks !!!

[Circuit breaker]

Quote: SPB 1221

A country that is p / r / o / s / t / and / t / u / t / c / o / y / should not receive condoms but tanks !!!

They didn’t even make money on it.

[dchegrinec]

Poland wants to be another Turkey or what? Everything is arming itself, is it afraid that something will be spiky! Or there are many ambitions, he wants to rob the land from Poroshenko.

[Vadim237]

Most likely to take away the earth.

[vic58]

Quote: NEXUS

Poland imagines itself to be the new Commonwealth. Poles are equally the same warriors as Georgians. And I would like to ask a question - what are you Poles, today, in fact, without the USA?

Well, in Georgia there is even a choir)) And the Poles are European running champions

[Sasha75]

Once, the Poles had long ago been rearmament with Russian weapons. Mosinki were changed to a Mauser and somehow it didn’t work out for them, I even remember that Poland was divided then everything is repeated.

[scaramaks27]

Well, Teutonic crosses again on Polish soil. History has made another round, so that a repetition of September 01.09.1939, XNUMX is possible.

[shosha]

Quote: Captain Air Force

Well, that is not extreme ...

Here the key word is the last!

[Vadim237]

Most likely it’s not the last - time will pass, they will still order.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

And again, German tanks travel around Poland.

[shura7782]

For some reason, the discussion turned into a plane whose tank is better or not worse. At the tank biathlon to see the best crews of this equipment. It seems to me who has better tankers and that is right.

[andrew-z]

So they have their own tank biathlon in the west - "Canadian Army Prize", and there the main focus is not on fast driving. but the accuracy of shooting.
The first places were occupied by the crews of Leopards-2.

[sharp-lad]

And I think, why do the Bundeswehr members go to the exercises almost without equipment and weapons? Sold everything! "Sawed" their army !!!

[Vadim237]

And they have no one to defend themselves in, 117 American bases in Germany — here they are and will protect the Germans.

[Zomanus]

Well, Poland bought tanks and why?
Do you think that tanks will fight with tanks?
Yes figs there. And attack helicopters will go into business
and anti-tank systems. And all this is originally intended for
destruction of tanks. What is put on the Tigers with four TPK?
And I'm still silent about "Chrysanthemum", with its several channels
and a drum on dofiga rockets.
So the tank on the tank now little where climb.

[Wolka]

in order to contain this bunch of German tanks you need money, and a lot of money, that’s why the gentlemen strategists from the Government of the Russian Federation set a goal, what needs to be done with the import from Poles, so that not one of these tanks will ever fire ...