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IMF approved changes to allow Ukraine to lend in case of default

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The IMF board of directors approved yesterday a reform that allows lending to debtors in the event of a default on sovereign debt, reports RIA News the message of the director in the IMF from Russia Alexey Mozhin.


IMF approved changes to allow Ukraine to lend in case of default


“The decision of the board of directors of the fund allows, under a number of conditions, to fund the fund’s programs subject to a default on the official debt,” Mozhin said. - I voted against. I can’t talk about the rest because of the privacy policy. ”

According to him, “the decision enters into force immediately and will be applied to previously concluded contracts.”

The official version of the Foundation states that the idea of ​​this reform was “hanging in the air” for a long time, and preparations for its implementation have been going on for several years. However, most experts attribute these changes to the threat of a default for Ukraine on the 3 billion-dollar Russian debt.

Earlier, Moscow expressed its readiness to restructure the debt by allowing it to be repaid over the next 3 years, subject to the conditions for the provision of guarantees by the West. However, neither the US nor the EU did not provide such guarantees. Ukraine also refuses to pay bills.
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  1. gop
    gop 9 December 2015 14: 02 New
    +9
    who doesn’t jump that one, on the outskirts of Prague, worse than the New Year, all champagne)))
    1. Svyatogor
      Svyatogor 9 December 2015 14: 06 New
      12
      Interestingly, did they think over the consequences of this decision, or did they put pressure on them so much that they didn’t even think? Although what am I talking about? There is a complete dependence on mattresses in decisions.
      1. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 9 December 2015 14: 11 New
        23
        IMF- "the real masters of their word" themselves came up with the rules, they themselves violate ... but Argentina can be sent to its creditors ...
        1. iury.vorgul
          iury.vorgul 9 December 2015 14: 33 New
          +7
          It was too late, Kirchner lost the election, the protege of the "liberalists" won, they will give him loans and forgive debts.
          1. Belousov
            Belousov 9 December 2015 15: 24 New
            +6
            They will give loans, but they will not forgive debts. That we are so kind, write off tens of billions to all. And staff for every cent demand an answer. In an extreme case, if the new liberal president becomes articulate, you can always throw an economic stranglehold by demanding a return of the debt.
          2. Belousov
            Belousov 9 December 2015 15: 24 New
            0
            They will give loans, but they will not forgive debts. That we are so kind, write off tens of billions to all. And staff for every cent demand an answer. In an extreme case, if the new liberal president becomes articulate, you can always throw an economic stranglehold by demanding a return of the debt.
            1. msm
              msm 9 December 2015 16: 10 New
              0
              Brothers need help. A discount, a discount on gas, but more on demand! Hey, liberals! Give them a discount from my grandmother!
              1. Alekseev
                Alekseev 9 December 2015 16: 28 New
                +9
                Quote: msm
                . A discount, a discount on gas, but more on demand!

                No need to make waves in the basin. Ukrainians now do not buy gas in Russia, but take it through the ass, this is called the reverse.
                We also need to tie up with the IMF, withdraw our share. American foundation? Yes. So let them lend themselves.
                How do we get the money back?
                Yes, very simple. Introduce a work visa, at 200 = 300 dollars from dodging. Plus a patent. Yes customs duty. Especially for petroleum products and coal. In a couple of years we will justify. laughing
                1. proletarian
                  proletarian 9 December 2015 23: 40 New
                  0
                  Tough, but practical and economically, as well as politically justified.
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 9 December 2015 20: 01 New
              0
              Quote: Belousov
              They will give loans, but they will not forgive debts. That we are so kind, write off tens of billions to all. And staff for every cent demand an answer.

              Yeah, like in a joke -
              A man runs to the bank and asks
              -Here they give loans without a guarantor?
              -Yes.
              -And without a passport?
              -Yes.
              - Che! Just like that?
              -Yes.
              -And if I don’t give?
              -Well, then you will be ashamed later when you appear before God. It is a sin.
              - So I'm only 30 years old! When will I still appear before God?
              -Well, when? If you don’t give it away tomorrow, then the day after tomorrow you will appear)))

              In general, it turns out that now any debtor can throw a creditor, including the IMF.
              1. proletarian
                proletarian 9 December 2015 23: 44 New
                +1
                The IMF has already “shot” itself in the head, it remains to wait for the announcement of the very “series of conditions” to draw a conclusion (the bullet has passed along the tangent or still knocked out its brains).
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        3. Patriot 1
          Patriot 1 9 December 2015 14: 48 New
          19
          Quote: Sasha 19871987
          IMF- "the real masters of their word" themselves came up with the rules, they themselves violate ... but Argentina can be sent to its creditors ...

          And not only Argentina ... there are a number of countries there will be delighted with such happiness. For example, Greece.
          But, I suspect, any amendments will appear there and this law will be only for the "chosen ones". Those. those who owe Russia.
          1. Yars
            Yars 9 December 2015 15: 26 New
            0
            Quote: Patriot 1
            Quote: Sasha 19871987
            IMF- "the real masters of their word" themselves came up with the rules, they themselves violate ... but Argentina can be sent to its creditors ...

            And not only Argentina ... there are a number of countries there will be delighted with such happiness. For example, Greece.
            But, I suspect, any amendments will appear there and this law will be only for the "chosen ones". Those. those who owe Russia.

            All the same, it will not save Ukraine !!!
        4. Shadowcat
          Shadowcat 9 December 2015 16: 06 New
          +2
          Yes, the list is just n + 1 - Argentina, Greece, Portugal, Spain ....
          In general, we are waiting when they run away from the IMF.
        5. Tor5
          Tor5 9 December 2015 16: 45 New
          0
          It is quite expected. By truths and more untruths they try to bite us ... like pugs.
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      2. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 9 December 2015 14: 12 New
        +7
        IMF approved changes to allow Ukraine to lend in case of default

        Q.E.D! It was precisely knowing how the IMF would decide that the USA refused to provide guarantees on our loan to Ukraine.
      3. Lukich
        Lukich 9 December 2015 14: 13 New
        +8
        Quote: Svyatogor
        they thought through the consequences of this decision,

        what consequences? if necessary, the law will be changed again. all the more there is a reservation, under a number of conditions
        1. Gato
          Gato 9 December 2015 15: 08 New
          +5
          Quote: Lukich
          what consequences?

          Who needs the next loan?
      4. ZU-23
        ZU-23 9 December 2015 14: 13 New
        +3
        Now, Masons through such Ukraine will raise their dough unreasonably, perhaps they will also strengthen the dollar.
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      6. spiriolla-45
        spiriolla-45 9 December 2015 14: 19 New
        +5
        This reform once again proves that whoever writes the laws changes them, and others follow them. In short, the laws are like a drawbar, where the Americans have turned there and left. And ours rejoice that only now they have put their constitution above international treaties, before that there was not a constitution but a pro-title.
      7. Now we are free
        Now we are free 9 December 2015 14: 25 New
        24
        Firstly- DEFAULT THIS EVERYTHING WILL NOT CANCELED EVERYTHING so that Peremoga, as always, turned into a Zrada ...
        Secondly, this decision shows the IMF's insolvency / non-self-sufficiency in making such critical decisions. In front of the eyes of the whole world, the United States put the IMF in the 25th position of the Kama Sutra and lifted it.
        Thirdly (and most importantly), many say that now Greece and Portugal and Co. will send all their creditors to ... and to .... calmly pointing to Ukraine with a finger as an example. But the main thing in my opinion is to write off / send a touchstone to ... all the creditors of the USA themselves ... But the external debt from the USA is just -COSMOS!

        P.S. From now on, they will openly sponsor the "Huntslava" so that it does not die with one purpose, "agri" to Russia. In general, from December 20, Ukraine will officially become the "Zombie Country" whose goal is to die, having spoiled Russia as much as possible before death.
        P.P.S. Without gloating but simply stating a fact
        -Ukraine ce Europe la la la la la ... laughing
        - Visa-free regime with Europe la la la la la ... laughing
        1. mikh-korsakov
          mikh-korsakov 9 December 2015 14: 48 New
          +4
          I quote: DEFAULT THIS EVERYTHING WILL NOT CANCELED EVERYTHING. This is so, but unfortunately Ukraine will not be hot and cold from such a default. She will receive IMF loans, and laugh at Russia. Or should we hope for a trial? What, after the trial of Milosevic and the awarding of an obligation to Russia to pay $ 50 billion to Yukos shareholders, does anyone believe these courts?
          1. anfil
            anfil 9 December 2015 16: 15 New
            0
            Don’t worry, for now this is seen as the IMF’s political move, we’ll see how much they will give to them now and whether they will. It may turn out that they seem to have given it, but it will be empty in their hands, there will be a funkinton to sponsor for their specific purposes, and ukrodebily will only scribble signatures on debt receipts.
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      9. Teberii
        Teberii 9 December 2015 14: 33 New
        +6
        What will they now say to the Greeks, all the brains have been brought to them, forced to get into bondage. And here a country with a civil war is not part of the EU will receive such privileges. The Greeks need to send them all, money means everything to everyone.
        1. Alekseir162
          Alekseir162 9 December 2015 14: 49 New
          +4
          What will they say to the Greeks now, all the brains they brought out, forced to get into bondage

          They won’t say anything. And so it is clear that for each they have their own "truth" or rather a lie. For the Greeks, harsh conditions, and for the Ukrainians, carrots under their noses to make a louder yapping at Russia. Well, let them rejoice, only life does not end there, and the one who laughs last will laugh well. Let's wait ... (I wanted to swear, but changed my mind).
      10. dorz
        dorz 9 December 2015 14: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Svyatogor
        Interestingly, did they think over the consequences of this decision, or did they put pressure on them so much that they didn’t even think? Although what am I talking about? There is a complete dependence on mattresses in decisions.

        I see only one point - this is the subsequent privatization in Ukraine and the transition to full external management of the economy, as in Greece itself.
    2. Penetrator
      Penetrator 9 December 2015 14: 10 New
      12
      Quote: Gop
      all champagne

      Though kill, I do not understand what is the reason for joy here. Does the IMF help free? Or does interest-free lending give you? All the same, you have to give back yes with interest. Perhaps it would be better to default in December, but slowly crawled out of the ass themselves? Well, there, their oligarchs would have been beaten, they would have fought corruption, export industrial production had been established .. You look, and there would be money. But, apparently, for Ukrainians this is an impossible task - it’s easier for them to go further into credit bondage.
      That's just "you take strangers and for a while, but you give yours and forever" Or do they think that these debts will be forgiven them? Oh well...
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 9 December 2015 14: 15 New
        +7
        Quote: Penetrator
        Though kill, I do not understand what is the reason for joy here.

        so what? again, in their opinion, Russia showed a cookie
        1. Bombardier
          Bombardier 9 December 2015 14: 20 New
          +7
          Russia will still return its money in 3 billion. But the people of Ukraine will have to pay for such changes in the IMF, because no one thinks that such reforms are carried out for free in the IMF. With what I Ukraine and congratulations.
          1. AlexTires
            AlexTires 9 December 2015 14: 24 New
            +5
            Quote: Bombardier
            Russia will still refund its money in 3bn.

            That is, the IMF has changed the rules to be able to continue lending to Ukraine during the trial in the suit of Russia. The court may last for years, but Ukraine will still have to pay.
        2. Vend
          Vend 9 December 2015 14: 20 New
          +3
          The IMF is taking a solid step towards its collapse. Let's see what will happen next? There are other countries that can also not repaying debts. require a loan. The same Greece. Here the leapfrog will begin
        3. Penetrator
          Penetrator 9 December 2015 14: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: Lukich
          Russia showed cookie

          What's the cookie? The debt has not gone away, only now it will be challenged in the courts. They will receive, after a while, the same eggs only in profile and with extra. legal costs. In this case, the arbitration tribunal for any admits the rightness of the Russian Federation, since all the conditions for processing credit obligations have been met. He doesn’t admit - the worse for the international arbitration system. Case law, they will receive a lot of uncontested claims from such debtors against creditors.
        4. 79807420129
          79807420129 9 December 2015 15: 19 New
          +8
          Quote: Lukich
          Quote: Penetrator
          Though kill, I do not understand what is the reason for joy here.

          so what? again, in their opinion, Russia showed a cookie

          They showed Kukish not to Russia, but to themselves, no matter how much they screamed and jumped, the debt will not go anywhere, but on the contrary it will only increase and the IMF itself will be trapped, now Greece and Cyprus and African and Latin American countries will start demand the same conditions for yourself.
        5. msm
          msm 9 December 2015 16: 15 New
          +1
          again, in their opinion, Russia showed a cookie
          Yes, here, and to my mind opinion too ...
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 9 December 2015 14: 29 New
      16
      Zhirinovsky about Ukraine 1998
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 9 December 2015 17: 24 New
        +1
        I wrote here somehow, that the Zhirik was not at all, but a sane person with the habits of a clown, so they ravaged ...
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    4. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 9 December 2015 14: 48 New
      +2
      I just don’t understand what the holiday is ..? This, it will not save, the debt, too, will not write off, and from the lawsuits in debt, too, will not save. And help in case of default ... Why aren’t they providing it now? Help is needed right now, where is it? Anyway, they will not find 3 lard until the 20th, 21 - default. The hryvnia will fall twice as the first consequence ... What is the celebration about? request
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 9 December 2015 14: 02 New
    +2
    Petske was given the go-ahead to throw "wrong" creditors. yes
    1. just exp
      just exp 9 December 2015 14: 06 New
      +3
      west is such a west, if the states were tossed, then howling would be unmeasured.
      1. 44 World
        44 World 9 December 2015 14: 09 New
        +2
        IMF Board of Directors

        Stsuki !!!
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    2. Svyatogor
      Svyatogor 9 December 2015 14: 13 New
      +3
      Take the factory from Petyunka as a set-off.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 9 December 2015 14: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Svyatogor
        Take the factory from Petyunka as a set-off.

        This is not a state asset, but a private one.
        1. Svyatogor
          Svyatogor 9 December 2015 14: 32 New
          +1
          Petunia and the hedgehog with him now have all of Ukraine a solid private asset.
      2. unfriendly
        unfriendly 10 December 2015 01: 09 New
        0
        what to take from him? Unless to disassemble the donor organs, well, the other local flora and fauna (Yatsenyak, lame, lady slobber), too, at the meat processing plant and the skins on the drums to pull to march with them on May 9. In short - all for fertilizer. And let the mattress suck the spare paw of the Russian bear.
  3. lexxxus
    lexxxus 9 December 2015 14: 02 New
    +3
    Again double standards!
    The era of double standards.
    If only this era would have passed faster, otherwise it will infuriate me!
    1. cniza
      cniza 9 December 2015 14: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: lexxxus
      Again double standards!
      The era of double standards.
      If only this era would have passed faster, otherwise it will infuriate me!


      No, this is a shot in the brain and the final degradation of the United States and its mongrel.
      1. lexxxus
        lexxxus 9 December 2015 14: 09 New
        +1
        it's a shot to your brain

        Yes, they’ve already shot off all their limbs - they’re just some MAZHISTS!
        1. cniza
          cniza 9 December 2015 14: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: lexxxus
          [Yes, they have already shot off all their limbs - just some MAKHASIS!



          And now the brain, that's it.
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  4. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 9 December 2015 14: 03 New
    +2
    And why aren't we surprised? But because Ukraine is not going to give money to Russia, which is typical for Ukrainians, usually and even patriotic!
  5. kolyhalovs
    kolyhalovs 9 December 2015 14: 03 New
    +2
    Expected same.
  6. Wolka
    Wolka 9 December 2015 14: 04 New
    0
    for they themselves do not know what they are doing ...
  7. barclay
    barclay 9 December 2015 14: 04 New
    +3
    Maybe after that someone still doubts that the IMF is not an independent structure?
  8. gukoyan
    gukoyan 9 December 2015 14: 04 New
    0
    Tyuyuyuyu, and Argentina in due time it was impossible to help so?
    I understand that the twan’s dirty policy was lit up there ... But still ...
  9. Air Force captain
    Air Force captain 9 December 2015 14: 04 New
    +3
    Now drive gas through Khokhlostan ... and do not pay transit until the limit of 3 lard bucks has been exhausted
    1. cniza
      cniza 9 December 2015 14: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: Captain Air Force
      Now drive gas through Khokhlostan ... and do not pay transit until the limit of 3 lard bucks has been exhausted


      And you need to do this in the winter, they will not block.
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  10. The black
    The black 9 December 2015 14: 05 New
    +4
    Sell ​​all hydrocarbons in Ukraine only with a margin to pay off debt. Increase customs duties for country 404 when importing goods. All overpayments of the Ukrainian side should be sent to the debt repayment account. Moreover, to maintain higher customs rates until the debts with interest on penalties for non-performance of the contract, etc. are repaid .......
  11. sever.56
    sever.56 9 December 2015 14: 05 New
    +4
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/235/jcnw18.png

    Senka, the "little rascal" managed to "convince" the West ... !!!
    1. The black
      The black 9 December 2015 14: 12 New
      +2
      JUNKER HIMS LITTLE .... THE PRINCIPAL HAS SNOOFED!
      "You, like no one, have the biggest ..." laughing
  12. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 9 December 2015 14: 07 New
    +3
    Ukraine, however, refuses to pay bills.
    When will this madhouse end already?
    1. msm
      msm 9 December 2015 16: 30 New
      +1
      A, who does it do? Well! Here is the answer.
  13. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 9 December 2015 14: 07 New
    +4
    As entered, and canceled! International law has moved into the category of lawlessness. Everything changes in the event of something, and everything can be brought under the national security strategy, that’s anarchy!
  14. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 9 December 2015 14: 07 New
    +2
    It seems that in the desire to spoil Russia as much as possible, they are ready to bite off everything that their teeth reach. A precedent has been set, the IMF is expecting "fun days."
    1. cniza
      cniza 9 December 2015 14: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: B.T.W.
      It seems that in the desire to spoil Russia as much as possible, they are ready to bite off everything that their teeth reach. A precedent has been set, the IMF is expecting "fun days."


      Rather, the last days, although they will try to extend the agony, but the end is inevitable, they burned the entire bridge.
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 9 December 2015 19: 03 New
        0
        Quote: cniza
        Rather, the last days, although they will try to extend the agony, but the end is inevitable, they burned the entire bridge.

        Something you, colleague, is very sad about the IMF. Where do you see "agony and the inevitable end"? After a couple of months, no one will remember this decision of the IMF, because everyone perfectly understands for what reasons, this decision was made. And neither Argentina nor other countries will even think about this outrage. In the world of big money, there is no place for emotions, only pragmatism.
        So, my colleague, besides our country, this is a completely expected solution, there will be no problems for anyone. hi
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  15. pts-m
    pts-m 9 December 2015 14: 08 New
    0
    according to the laws of economics, this decision gives the right to other debtors to pay off debts. GDP, when he warned the FSA not to indulge in countries like Kosovo, and what came of it, and now in the economic sphere. Fshe it seems to be profitable. They have all the gold and loot, and the rest countries only wipe themselves with “paper prices”.
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  17. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 December 2015 14: 09 New
    11
    A very sad story for the global economy. Russia can only declare a moratorium on the return of ALL debts, including corporate ones, until the sanctions are lifted and opportunities for their restructuring or re-lending appear.
    Well what the f ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 9 December 2015 14: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      A very sad story for the global economy. Russia can only declare a moratorium on the return of ALL debts, including corporate ones, until the sanctions are lifted and opportunities for their restructuring or re-lending appear.
      Well what the f ...



      This step is provided in the program, but not in the first place.
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  18. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 9 December 2015 14: 12 New
    +4
    But is it not time to name the traitors who dragged Russia to the IMF and the WTO, organizations that do not hide their anti-Russian orientation, in short, the financial and commercial weapons in the hands of the United States! Traitors to the answer !!!
    1. Decathlon
      Decathlon 9 December 2015 14: 20 New
      +2
      Yes, only the IMF and the WTO would be okay! Then Pushkov whipped that Russia would not pay contributions to PACE. And, the other day, Matvienko declares that, no, we will pay, but so proportionally, proportionally ... This, how ?!
      1. epsilon571
        epsilon571 9 December 2015 20: 41 New
        +1
        Decathlon (3) Today, 14:20 PM
        And, the other day, Matvienko declares that, no, we will pay, but so proportionally, proportionally ...


        What is it like?!


        As well as the resumption of coal supplies to Ukraine:

        President Vladimir Putin said the need to resume coal supplies to Ukraine.
        Today, at a meeting with ministers that was broadcast on Russia 24, President Vladimir Putin said: “They have turned on at least one thread. It is necessary to resume coal supplies. ”


        Honestly, I don’t understand our policy at all, but just like Fedor Ivanovich! Perhaps our government is guided by the commandments of the "New Testament", I think everyone knows them. But what about us! So the joke begs, may the moderators forgive me: "And to us, x ... to you!
  19. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 9 December 2015 14: 12 New
    +2
    By the way, after the adoption of the amendments, Argentina is probably licking its lips nicely, hoping to resolve its old default! Greece will now begin to build eyes, yawn! IMF hit ..... fun!
  20. AlexTires
    AlexTires 9 December 2015 14: 16 New
    +2
    Expected, but how does this cancel the repayment of Eurobonds and default in case of non-payment?
    Or the IMF will simultaneously change the redemption of government securities in Europe,
    turning it into the “Kiss me on the run, and I’ll change the rules” lottery?
    I doubt it.
  21. ARES623
    ARES623 9 December 2015 14: 17 New
    +3
    In Ukraine, only the oligarchic elite, and their bosses from the USA, will celebrate about this reform. For only they will receive their fat from IMF loans. Those who ride on the streets will receive nothing but an increase in the debt yoke for themselves and their children for many generations. In the end, it will be possible to nationalize the property of Ukraine and some of the citizens of Ukraine in favor of the Russian Federation in repayment of part of this debt. With a black sheep, even a tuft of wool. The situation is expected, there is nothing sudden. Lawyers will ted this Mr. for a long time. The main thing is that now even the liberals will stop remembering about some "brothers" who have lost their way in the wilds of history. Ukraine is an enemy, and you need to relate to it when deciding political, economic and other issues accordingly.
  22. Lanista
    Lanista 9 December 2015 14: 21 New
    +1
    Do you know what it's called? "Drive into debt slavery." Ukraine will have to pay for such a loan either for a very long time, or with something more significant than finance.
  23. evil partisan
    evil partisan 9 December 2015 14: 21 New
    +2
    Hahlam this will not help. A small detail: the energy consumption of Ukraine is entirely less than the energy consumption of Moscow alone:
    Those. with industry in Ukraine, it’s so worse than Kovtun, Karasev and K. are broadcasting to us, that in the foreseeable future it will be worse and worse with money in Ukraine. And one agricultural industry will not feed them, no matter how much the IMF gives loans. And he will give less than maintaining pants.
    Still very interesting:
  24. TTX
    TTX 9 December 2015 14: 23 New
    +1
    After all kinds of stuffing in various resources, it’s no longer news. Perhaps the world order is in ruins, we are waiting for Greece, Brazil, or who else is in debt?
  25. Grood
    Grood 9 December 2015 14: 23 New
    0
    And it seems that they will give debts to everyone except money. For example, ground ...
  26. mart-kot
    mart-kot 9 December 2015 14: 24 New
    0
    that’s an ambush, they turned off the hohmo (or crest) site. I wanted to go to the censor, neighing no, they turned off access. Why is it asking?
  27. sisa29
    sisa29 9 December 2015 14: 25 New
    +2
    We decided to say that Ukraine is a crook.
    But it’s a shame to say that we ourselves turned out to be idiots, everything went to the collapse of Ukraine, but we decided, as usual, toss money and everything will be decided by itself. Remember, they prepared 15 ml of yards, fortunately they did not manage to bring them all, only three managed.
    But how many were after the slogans: “This is a tricky plan” “They gave money to put it on the hook” “They will return it will not go anywhere else default and the West will not give them more money” ...
    1. TTX
      TTX 9 December 2015 14: 35 New
      0
      The debt has nowhere to go, life does not end there. The question is what will the government do when the time comes, forgive? negative
    2. TTX
      TTX 9 December 2015 14: 35 New
      0
      The debt has nowhere to go, life does not end there. The question is what will the government do when the time comes, forgive? negative
    3. mart-kot
      mart-kot 9 December 2015 14: 36 New
      +1
      At that time, the Russian Federation was friends with Ukraine (or the Ukrainian authorities), at least there was no confrontation and dialogue could be conducted. In addition, while maintaining normal relations, an additional lever of pressure on Ukraine appeared. Who knew that everything would turn out like that.
      1. sisa29
        sisa29 9 December 2015 14: 42 New
        0
        Something like this started:
        The press conferences of Vladimir Putin in Moscow and Viktor Yanukovych in Kiev, held almost simultaneously on December 19, could not clarify all the issues. Including the structures and mechanisms for Ukraine to obtain a $ 15 billion loan from Russia. Let me remind you that Russia should redeem government securities of Ukraine for this amount - the so-called Eurobonds
    4. mart-kot
      mart-kot 9 December 2015 14: 36 New
      0
      At that time, the Russian Federation was friends with Ukraine (or the Ukrainian authorities), at least there was no confrontation and dialogue could be conducted. In addition, while maintaining normal relations, an additional lever of pressure on Ukraine appeared. Who knew that everything would turn out like that.
    5. Gur
      Gur 9 December 2015 14: 40 New
      0
      Yes, if the West gives money, then they will give it to us, maybe the West wants Ukrainians to stick out
  28. skaramaks27
    skaramaks27 9 December 2015 14: 30 New
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    A very simple and very original way to joke Russia ... to announce the IMF ... that from 10.12.2015 everything, EVERYTHING !!!! Settlements with Russia in rubles. ALL!
  29. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 9 December 2015 14: 39 New
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    They will give so much that Ukraine will never give it back, but they will have to pay for their debts with Western territory. (the land is very fertile and the sea is near + slaves)
  30. Kibl
    Kibl 9 December 2015 14: 42 New
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    Do not confuse Ukraine with Argentina and Greece. Ukraine is an enemy of Russia, it means the best friend of the USA! And what about Argentina and Greece, they just treat Russia well. So the new rules do not apply to them, it was said that the new resolution nor does it apply to earlier decisions! Everything is imprisoned precisely for the Ukrainian default!
    1. TTX
      TTX 9 December 2015 14: 55 New
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      Argentina beckons Negro - read the turnover fellow It looks like BRICS without Brazil and Ukraine, if you do not twist your own, the rulers will leave the people will remain well, they will change the headgear request Something like that.
      1. Valentine
        Valentine 9 December 2015 16: 48 New
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        Quote: TTX
        Argentina beckons Negro - read the turnover fellow It looks like BRICS without Brazil and Ukraine, if you do not twist your own, the rulers will leave the people will remain well, they will change the headgear request Something like that.

        Yes, not "something like that", but they will need to completely change their brains, and this will take at least 40-50 years. And it is not a matter of "Svidomo", because among them there are many Russian and Belarusians, although these too soon a knife will be planted in our backs.
  31. Zomanus
    Zomanus 9 December 2015 14: 44 New
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    Interestingly, will these changes affect other countries?
    Or will there be a bunch of subparagraphs and conditions that push this deflection purely to Ukraine?
    Well, there the flag should contain only two colors, one of which is yellow.
    Or, like, a gas pipe should pass through the country ...
    1. Valentine
      Valentine 9 December 2015 16: 42 New
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      Quote: Zomanus
      Interestingly, will these changes affect other countries?
      Or will there be a bunch of subparagraphs and conditions that push this deflection purely to Ukraine?
      Well, there the flag should contain only two colors, one of which is yellow.
      Or, like, a gas pipe should pass through the country ...

      The IMF, under the fist of the United States, itself went to such vileness that
      Ukraine could continue its villains in relation to Russia.
  32. brasist
    brasist 9 December 2015 14: 45 New
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    Quote: kolyhalovs
    Expected same.

    yes uzhzhzh
  33. mast
    mast 9 December 2015 14: 46 New
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    Losing three billion is bad, but it's the little things that Russia is losing on Ukrainian illegal immigrants. They do not pay a penny of taxes while working and export currency from the country. This figure exceeds 10 billion. Maybe it’s worth strengthening work in this direction, and employers shouldn’t hire such people and pay taxes.
    They want to work, let them work, but they also pay taxes.
    There are many of them in Europe too. But they are all tax residents there. Maybe there are some cases that aren’t, but this is rather an exception than the rule
  34. Stepan stepanovich
    Stepan stepanovich 9 December 2015 14: 47 New
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    And if their Turkish tomatoes?
    Although not. Will not help...
  35. Served once
    Served once 9 December 2015 14: 50 New
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    If I understand correctly, the situation is something like this. I’m living in my apartment, suddenly a former neighbor bangs on the door: a brawler, drunk his occupation. And yells from the threshold: Give me money, not a dozen, not a hundred and a million or two. I’ll never give them to you I’ll give it up and I’ll constantly crap on the doorstep. And I’ll set all the “democratic” and “enlightened” neighbors at you. Because they and I decided in their person. And I don’t like you, I took my former parking space (I drank the car ), and in general you do not live by the rules, you have an opinion. And you want to be reckoned with you. you don’t want to eat for free. I’ll send such a neighbor along a well-trodden route. And other neighbors? Will they still keep this scum? We all live in the same house, entrance. It’s unlikely that everyone’s resources are endless. If only uncle due to a puddle of 30 pieces of silver will send for a drink and revel. And from this day I give a vow to myself: Never to lend to anyone again. Let them die. I’m no longer neighbors.
  36. linen
    linen 9 December 2015 14: 52 New
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    Well, why did you have to buy paper for 3 billion!?
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 9 December 2015 15: 10 New
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      The game of thrones
  37. B.G.
    B.G. 9 December 2015 15: 15 New
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    Hmmm .... Again, politics is ahead of the economy. It turns out some kind of fortune with a return of loans. Maybe the Russian Federation should get out of the next puppet structure of the United States, then there is no benefit from being in it.
  38. Zolotse
    Zolotse 9 December 2015 15: 32 New
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    Get the hell out of the IMF if it so protects the interests of some and drowns others
  39. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 9 December 2015 15: 33 New
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    These operations have only one meaning. It becomes clear which organizations are independent and which are not. The UN is still capable, as long as Russia and China have a veto.

    IMF - no. OSCE is not. The Nobel Committee - no (hi to Obama laureate). ECHR - no. The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe - no. International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea - no. Rating agencies - no. Even the WTO, whichdidn't notice"Obviously illegal sanctions - not independent. Alas, the alignment is this. The Amer octopus everywhere launched its tentacles.
  40. Batia
    Batia 9 December 2015 15: 36 New
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    Robyat! It is rumored that this loan was issued on guarantee of the British. If so, then the guarantor must pay. Did I miss something?
  41. russmensch
    russmensch 9 December 2015 15: 44 New
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    It’s not even vague, but quite real doubts that the Russian Federation will now receive its money. Well, there is no such mechanism today ... No, that's all. Through the court? Do you yourself believe that some kind of court will suddenly take our side? An example of Khodorkovsky and Co. was recently shown. Will conscience wake up? Who is this? Today, the rules of the game are being canceled and new ones are being set up unilaterally with only one purpose - to inflict the greatest possible harm on Russia. And it doesn’t matter which one - economic, political, informational ... if only to do more harm.
    Of course, you can force money out, but this is a war. And let us be stronger, but I'm afraid that we will lose much more. Now we will also have to change our relations policy, rewriting laws at the same time. I would not be surprised at all if in most trade and economic relations the main priority of the Russian Federation is prepayment, and obtaining loans against real assets.
    1. msm
      msm 9 December 2015 16: 38 New
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      but I'm afraid that we will lose much more
      It’s better to get wet once than we, children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren endure this all the time!
    2. Valentine
      Valentine 9 December 2015 17: 12 New
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      Quote: russmensch
      It’s not even vague, but quite real doubts that the Russian Federation will now receive its money. Well, there is no such mechanism today ... No, that's all. Through the court? Do you yourself believe that some kind of court will suddenly take our side? An example of Khodorkovsky and Co. was recently shown. Will conscience wake up? Who is this? Today, the rules of the game are being canceled and new ones are being set up unilaterally with only one purpose - to inflict the greatest possible harm on Russia. And it doesn’t matter which one - economic, political, informational ... if only to do more harm.
      Of course, you can force money out, but this is a war. And let us be stronger, but I'm afraid that we will lose much more. Now we will also have to change our relations policy, rewriting laws at the same time. I would not be surprised at all if in most trade and economic relations the main priority of the Russian Federation is prepayment, and obtaining loans against real assets.

      We have always been taught to live honestly, in conscience and justice, to help offended and destitute, which we did, acquired “brothers” and “sisters”, “colleagues” and “partners”, and here they are, “ours”
      the above, in turn, spit on us, spread rot on us, humiliate us, shoot us in the back, and we just wipe ourselves ... But is it not time for us to answer meanness, cynicism-cynicism, provocation-provocation, firing shot, etc. The time has come for rabid dogs, the time for scumbags, and in order for us to survive and survive, we need to answer with tripled strength, only the strongest will survive. You look-Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, U
  42. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 9 December 2015 15: 47 New
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    Yes, apparently, it’s time to deploy Ukrainian workers in Russia. LDNR - please work. Let this money work for Russia.
    1. mast
      mast 9 December 2015 16: 59 New
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      Yes, no need to deploy anyone. You just need to make them pay taxes like they pay around the world. Look how many nurses are in the same hospitals from Ukraine !! they don’t pay a penny except that they unfasten the senior nurses for giving them work (this is an example). Where else is there in the world ???
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 9 December 2015 18: 06 New
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        Then this money pops up in the war with the Donbass. Europe, so Europe, work there. Go to the censor, it’s faked against us there. I clinged verbally to one of the workers, ideological enemies.
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  43. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 9 December 2015 15: 54 New
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    In principle, do not care who Bandera b..d will pay. Who will pay them gas "by reverse from the EU." There is no other gas besides Russian. They will take it directly, or with a margin from the EU ... The question is insignificant simply because Bandera has no money. And there is no coal, therefore there is no electricity supply in the near future either! Shannovi pans, virtue almost by megalomania, wellcome and affectionately requested for a dung. In South Africa, they also say that there is coal and they agree to supply freebies, although it is unlikely. In Africa there are still such elephant animals. From them dung well, well, much more! Sbyrayte, as long as you can! And let each banderosvin remember: Each candle in the deenergized Russian Crimea is a funeral light of Bandera!
  44. dimonl
    dimonl 9 December 2015 15: 55 New
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    Looked and fucked !!! But then they looked at him as a clown fool.
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Zhirinovsky about Ukraine 1998
  45. Sargass
    Sargass 9 December 2015 16: 23 New
    +1
    Goodbye IMF, we will remember you.
  46. jarator
    jarator 9 December 2015 16: 47 New
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    There is no international law, and they make it clear to us in a particularly cynical, one might even say arrogant, form. What is this? This is war. To annoy by all means, on the verge of a foul, but so that it does not come to an open nuclear collision. And our task now, realizing all this, is to try to use the remaining tools to balance, pull time, strengthen and interact with the TEMPORARY allies ...
  47. _my opinion
    _my opinion 9 December 2015 17: 00 New
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    Quote: YARS
    Quote: Patriot 1
    Quote: Sasha 19871987
    IMF- "the real masters of their word" themselves came up with the rules, they themselves violate ... but Argentina can be sent to its creditors ...

    And not only Argentina ... there are a number of countries there will be delighted with such happiness. For example, Greece.
    But, I suspect, any amendments will appear there and this law will be only for the "chosen ones". Those. those who owe Russia.

    All the same, it will not save Ukraine !!!

    Is the IMF saving Ukraine? ... rather, it is driving it into debt, of which, in principle, it cannot get out, then it will be demanded from it what the IMF owners need.
  48. vandarus
    vandarus 9 December 2015 17: 57 New
    +1
    And the decision was really "long hovering". We were even warned about him. And only Medvedev lamentedly flapping his wings on his thighs, again deceived !!! (please forgive me for the high style)
  49. Served once
    Served once 9 December 2015 18: 22 New
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    Ugh ... let it be off topic. Putin ordered the resumption of coal supplies to Ukraine ... the curtain! We all do not understand something together. To paraphrase Lavrov: Neighbors B ... me!
  50. lukke
    lukke 9 December 2015 18: 27 New
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    The team of the governor of the Odessa region, Mikheil Saakashvili, was accused of embezzlement of funds from a charity fund created for the rehabilitation of ATO fighters (the anti-terrorist operation, as fighting is called in the south-east of Ukraine in Kiev), to singers, receptions and banquets.
    The bear repeats his Georgian scenario, though the foundation there was really just “presidential”)