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The planes of the Iraqi Air Force conducted reconnaissance positions of Turkish troops in northern Iraq

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As you know, on the eve of the deadline for the ultimatum that the Iraqi authorities put forward in relation to official Ankara, demanding the immediate withdrawal of the Turkish military contingent from Iraq. According to the governor of the Iraqi province of Ninew, where the Turkish military announced the protection of the training camps for the Kurdish Peshmerga militia, the number of Turkish soldiers exceeded 1000. At the same time, the presence in Iraq of at least two dozen tanks Turkish armed forces. Official Ankara said that it was not going to withdraw its troops from Iraq.


The planes of the Iraqi Air Force conducted reconnaissance positions of Turkish troops in northern Iraq


Today, official Baghdad circulated a report that the country's air forces conducted aerial reconnaissance and determined the exact coordinates of the concentration sites of Turkish military personnel. The official representative of the main military department of Iraq quoted news agency Sputnik:

Military aircraft yesterday conducted reconnaissance flights over the military base where Turkish troops are located, noting the coordinates of the deployment of troops and their number, as well as the number of tanks and weapons.


It is noteworthy that the Iraqi authorities sent an official appeal to the NATO leadership to influence the official Ankara in order to withdraw the Turkish military from Iraq. On Wednesday night, Iraq’s representative to the UN, Ali al-Hakim, said that negotiations with Turkey “went more successfully”. The appeal to the UN Security Council, as previously stated by the Prime Minister of Iraq, Haider Al-Abadi, has not yet become.
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  1. sever.56
    sever.56 9 December 2015 13: 08 New
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    Iraq cannot do anything.
    Remember the creation of the Turkish Republic in Cyprus, when Turkey practically occupied a part of the territory. Nobody can still do anything with them. Erdogan is obsessed with the idea of ​​rebuilding the Ottoman Empire and is beginning to slowly squeeze out the territories of neighboring Syria and Iraq. Given that Turkey is the largest member of NATO, Iraq will swallow it, because it is beneficial for NATO to have Turkey in its membership.
    1. Grabberxnumx
      Grabberxnumx 9 December 2015 13: 10 New
      +3
      Сможет! Информацию фактами подтвердили, цели назначили, время исчезнуть дали. Теперь дело за малым - если не уйдут - прилетит чего то случайно, после чего в МИДе выскажут сожаление - "Ой мы ошиблись"! Пустыня же!
      1. Lyapis
        Lyapis 9 December 2015 13: 16 New
        +7
        And then they will get an answer. And it’s good if NATO does not intervene.
        Iraq is already spreading apart and the government barely has the strength to ensure that everything does not fall into the abyss. And having captured Turkey as an open enemy, Iraqis would have absolutely no strength ...
        1. Vend
          Vend 9 December 2015 13: 22 New
          -1
          Iraq did the right thing. War is on hand only to the United States. Why follow their lead.
          1. Deniska999
            Deniska999 9 December 2015 13: 52 New
            +2
            How to fight Iraq. He takes the year of Ramadi.
          2. Rrrj
            Rrrj 9 December 2015 15: 12 New
            0
            Quote: Wend
            Iraq did the right thing. War is on hand only to the United States. Why follow their lead.

            Ohhh, yes, only a person who doesn’t respect his homeland can say such a thing - you need to beat it off at all costs - and you - well, not at all - it’s not the whole country that’s been captured - such patriots -> patriots are swallowing ears.
            1. Vend
              Vend 9 December 2015 15: 55 New
              +3
              Quote: rrrj
              Quote: Wend
              Iraq did the right thing. War is on hand only to the United States. Why follow their lead.

              Ооо да, такое может говорить только человек не уважающий свою родину - любой ценой нужно ее отбивать - а у вас - ну ниче - это ж не всю страну захватили - такие <!--filter:<!--filter:патриоты-->патриоты-->патриоты<!--/filter-->-->патриоты<!--/filter--
              > все мимо ушей прохлопают.

              I remember such patriots as you with foam at the mouth demanded the entry of Russian troops into Ukraine. There is a time when guns say, there is a time for diplomacy. Turn on the brain. What would Iraq get by attacking Turkey? A war with NATO, in which Russia would join on the side of Iraq. Give you the Third World? We must take into account the entire balance of power and further consequences. Therefore, they cannot defeat the President of Russia, because he thinks on 10 moves forward, and the USA only on 2. It has long been won the war not on the battlefield, but in diplomatic seats. You can defeat on the battlefield, but surrender everything that was conquered and watered with the blood of soldiers. In the history of such cases is enough.
              1. Rrrj
                Rrrj 9 December 2015 16: 44 New
                +1
                Quote: Wend
                I remember such patriots,

                Here it is not necessary la-la - it is not known on whose side the truth.
                What are the results of not introducing a military? Gas for free - provocations every now and then - a stink to the whole world, sanctions, a non-repayable loan - is this your tricky move?
                Nobody answered for A321, for SU - while tomatoes are responsible ...
                1. Vend
                  Vend 9 December 2015 18: 37 New
                  +1
                  Quote: rrrj
                  Quote: Wend
                  I remember such patriots,

                  Here it is not necessary la-la - it is not known on whose side the truth.
                  What are the results of not introducing a military? Gas for free - provocations every now and then - a stink to the whole world, sanctions, a non-repayable loan - is this your tricky move?
                  Nobody answered for A321, for SU - while tomatoes are responsible ...

                  Why is it known. Huge expenses for the restoration of Ukraine, payment of Ukrainian debts, hatred of the hidden Svidomo, rampant banditry. the departure and creation abroad of the Bandera clique, the strengthening of NATO, as a confrontation with Russian aggression, etc.
                  1. Rrrj
                    Rrrj 9 December 2015 18: 44 New
                    0
                    Quote: Wend
                    Huge expenses for the restoration of Ukraine, payment of their debts, hatred of the hidden Svidomo, leaving and creating a Bandera clique abroad, strengthening NATO, as a confrontation with Russian aggression, etc.

                    From what you have listed, most of the cons are for us - and the other part is also at least a neutral value or, again, minus - depending on which side to file.
                    1. Vend
                      Vend 10 December 2015 09: 30 New
                      0
                      Quote: rrrj
                      Quote: Wend
                      Huge expenses for the restoration of Ukraine, payment of their debts, hatred of the hidden Svidomo, leaving and creating a Bandera clique abroad, strengthening NATO, as a confrontation with Russian aggression, etc.

                      From what you have listed, most of the cons are for us - and the other part is also at least a neutral value or, again, minus - depending on which side to file.

                      That is the point. Therefore, the troops did not enter. Why, the time will come, the West will do everything the way Russia needs. They just won't have a choice. Remember how the USSR broke in Afghanistan? It’s the same way, only many times stronger, and the West is now torn. Time works for Russia.
            2. theadenter
              theadenter 9 December 2015 16: 12 New
              0
              Sometimes it’s better to gain strength and fight back than throw cannon fodder under the tanks.
        2. 44 World
          44 World 9 December 2015 13: 24 New
          +5
          It was necessary to bomb them after the expiration of the ultimatum, by doing so exclusively in the framework of international law, and Russia and many other countries would support Iraq, and who the hell would say a word ...
          1. Rustam
            Rustam 9 December 2015 13: 46 New
            +1
            4
            4Mir RU Today, 13:24


            what to bombard with words? in esperds wink
            1. Lyapis
              Lyapis 9 December 2015 13: 53 New
              +3
              what to bombard with words? in esperds

              Угу. И поддержали бы их "многие другие страны" тоже... на словах.
            2. cniza
              cniza 9 December 2015 14: 22 New
              +2
              Quote: Rustam
              4
              4Mir RU Today, 13:24


              what to bombard with words? in esperds wink



              It is very possible that the Turks themselves will provoke and seize more territory.
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          2. veksha50
            veksha50 9 December 2015 14: 09 New
            +4
            Quote: 44World
            а Russia and many other countries would support Iraq


            Russia is only rising, or rather, trying to rise from the ashes, and it is not omnipotent, it’s time to understand this a long time ago ...

            Когда Вы очередной раз пытаетесь подтолкнуть Россию, страну, в которой живете, к очередному участию в военной заварушке, подумайте не только об экономике, которая не только по словам мною "горячо любимого" Силуанова - на дне, но и о людях России, которые должны будут идти туда и умирать... Умирать - за что ???

            And about other countries that will get involved in the war against Turkey on the side of Iraq ... List in the studio, pliz ...
            1. 44 World
              44 World 9 December 2015 15: 26 New
              0
              I mean the support in the UN Security Council based on international law, and there was no NATURAL talk about any war, maybe I did not correctly formulate my point
              1. veksha50
                veksha50 9 December 2015 21: 40 New
                0
                Quote: 44World
                I mean support in the UN Security Council based on international law,



                Do you still believe in the effectiveness of the UN Security Council ???
                Russia is driving there now, and what ???
                Both we and they exercise the right of veto when it is beneficial to anyone ...

                And the truth - our truth - cannot be achieved there for a long time ...
                1. gladcu2
                  gladcu2 9 December 2015 23: 48 New
                  0
                  veksha

                  There is no XNUMX% effectiveness of the UN. But there is an international rostrum of announcement and advocacy.
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            3. gladcu2
              gladcu2 9 December 2015 23: 46 New
              0
              Veksha

              Do not die, but fight for yourself.

              It's easy to die. But it’s difficult to fight.
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        4. hydrox
          hydrox 9 December 2015 13: 24 New
          0
          Stop talking nonsense :: NATO has officially refused to participate in the Russian-Turkish conflict, considering it an interstate.
          1. Lyapis
            Lyapis 9 December 2015 13: 36 New
            +2
            Stop talking nonsense :: NATO has officially refused to participate in the Russian-Turkish conflict, considering it an interstate.

            Ok, stop talking nonsense. repeat
            That's just the question is about Iraq, and not about Russia. And certainly NATO will not refuse to carry out a demonstrative flogging of Iraq if it all the same goes to the conflict. Purely in order to show the world that NATO is defending its own. Moreover, some kind of stability in Iraq is supported, in many respects, precisely by the forces of NATO and their material support. Once this help is removed, the situation in the country will quickly go to waste.
            1. Pomeranian
              Pomeranian 9 December 2015 13: 40 New
              -2
              Exactly! You correctly noticed
              Quote: Lyapis
              Moreover, any kind of stability in Iraq is supported precisely by NATO forces and their material support.

              Therefore, Iraq will be able to use them in the manner of a human shield. Or hostages, then the card will fall.
              And de facto Iraq has long since collapsed.
              1. Lyapis
                Lyapis 9 December 2015 13: 46 New
                +1
                Therefore, Iraq will be able to use them in the manner of a human shield. Or hostages, then the card will fall.

                Hide behind American soldiers like a human shield? belay
                Funny joke, let’s do it again.
            2. Pomeranian
              Pomeranian 9 December 2015 13: 40 New
              -2
              Exactly! You correctly noticed
              Quote: Lyapis
              Moreover, any kind of stability in Iraq is supported precisely by NATO forces and their material support.

              Therefore, Iraq will be able to use them in the manner of a human shield. Or hostages, then the card will fall.
              And de facto Iraq has long since collapsed.
        5. Kradi
          Kradi 9 December 2015 13: 30 New
          -1
          and the answer in this case will be direct aggression. here you can already ask for help.
      2. Sergey K.
        Sergey K. 9 December 2015 13: 22 New
        +1
        Сможет! Информацию фактами подтвердили, цели назначили, время исчезнуть дали. Теперь дело за малым - если не уйдут - прилетит чего то случайно, после чего в МИДе выскажут сожаление - "Ой мы ошиблись"! Пустыня же!

        Iraq alone will not even try to confront Turkey. The time for the withdrawal of Turkish troops, which Iraq gave, is already over. We see the result. The Turks absolutely do not care. The Turks are confident that if something happens, NATO will come to the rescue. But if we look at Iraq, then they cannot enlist such support from other countries. Therefore, all the talk on the part of Iraq about the withdrawal of the Turkish troops will remain talk.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 9 December 2015 13: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: Sergey K.
          But if we look at Iraq, then they cannot enlist such support from other countries.

          Because in such a war it will be necessary not to help and support Iraq, but to fight for it. And who needs it now?
      3. Penzuck
        Penzuck 9 December 2015 13: 23 New
        +3
        Запустить "калибры", и в полете продать(передать) их Ираку. wassat
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 9 December 2015 13: 37 New
          +3
          What for? You can abandon five to ten Scuds in the old fashioned way. There is no Cyrillic alphabet on missiles, Iraq will immediately speak out that it was his missiles, which were purchased for the offensive to the north, that had to be used for the interventionists.

          And unlike Caliber and other things, the SCADAS cannot be intercepted by the Turks and not even properly tracked. Even the Americans, if they want, cannot help ...
          1. Al_oriso
            Al_oriso 9 December 2015 13: 57 New
            +1
            It seems that the time has come for Turkey, the time for her answer for the bomber and for the clouding of reason.

            The main thing is not to overdo it.
      4. sever.56
        sever.56 9 December 2015 13: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: Grabber2000
        Will be able!

        Quote: Grabber2000
        Теперь дело за малым - если не уйдут - прилетит чего то случайно, после чего в МИДе выскажут сожаление - "Ой мы ошиблись"! Пустыня же!


        Well, what are you talking about ... Compare the army of Turkey and Iraq! The Turkish army is the second in NATO in terms of numbers, after the United States. She has a good weapon.
        Да им только и надо, чтобы что-то "прилетело", будет повод обвинить Ирак в нападении и начать полномасштабное вторжение и война, результат которой предсказуем, - аннексия территорий, которые туркам нужны. Я не думаю, что соратники по НАТО будут возмущаться, а если что-то и скажут, то отмороженный Эрдоган просто пошлет их.
      5. SAXA.SHURA
        SAXA.SHURA 9 December 2015 13: 29 New
        -1
        Greyhounds must be treated and properly, and the Turks do not understand the words, like cockroaches.
      6. Now we are free
        Now we are free 9 December 2015 13: 32 New
        0
        Quote: sever.56
        Iraq cannot do anything.
        Remember the creation of the Turkish Republic in Cyprus, when Turkey practically occupied a part of the territory. Nobody can still do anything with them. Erdogan is obsessed with the idea of ​​rebuilding the Ottoman Empire and is beginning to slowly squeeze out the territories of neighboring Syria and Iraq. Given that Turkey is the largest member of NATO, Iraq will swallow it, because it is beneficial for NATO to have Turkey in its membership.


        Hello valer hi
        Ну в целом согласен с твоим комментарием НО, представь себе, что F-16 и СУ-25 Иракских ВВС вдруг вооружат "Калибрами"... Как не поднимет, как нет стыковочных узлов? Всё таки поднимет и всё таки "найдётся".
        And it’s hard to discern from the ground what is hanging there from an airplane flying at an altitude of 6 kilometers ...
        Well, if the F-16 climbs 10 kilometers (to drop bombs from there), then it can be like the TU-22M3 or TU-160 in general, the discharged air creates visual illusions ...
        1. sever.56
          sever.56 9 December 2015 13: 45 New
          0
          Quote: Now we are free
          Ну в целом согласен с твоим комментарием НО, представь себе, что F-16 и СУ-25 Иракских ВВС вдруг вооружат "Калибрами"...


          Hi Iskander! hi
          Понимешь, - не думаю, что мы можем отдать "во временное пользование" такое современнейшее оружие иракцам, учитывая их полную зависимость от америкосов. Ведь они могут отдать пару "Калибров" для изучения америкосам, или они отнимут у иракцев. оно на надо?

          Quote: Now we are free
          From the ground it is difficult to discern what is suspended from a plane flying at an altitude of 6 kilometers ...
          Well, if the F-16 climbs 10 kilometers (to drop bombs from there), then it can be like the TU-22M3 or TU-160 in general, the discharged air creates visual illusions ...


          Purely hypothetically, even if such an option passes, it will give a little. You look at the Turkish army, and the Iraqi army - the difference in military potential is tens, if not hundreds of times. If Iraq succeeds after that, then only local ...
          1. veksha50
            veksha50 9 December 2015 14: 13 New
            0
            Quote: sever.56
            If Iraq succeeds after that, then only local.


            Прошу прощения, но забыл добавить еще: "временный"...

            Best regards hi
            1. sever.56
              sever.56 9 December 2015 14: 20 New
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              Quote: veksha50
              Прошу прощения, но забыл добавить еще: "временный"...


              Точно: - "очень-очень временный"...
              Sincerely. hi
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      8. Trailer
        Trailer 9 December 2015 13: 34 New
        +6
        Feel all the pathos ... conducted reconnaissance ... over the territory of your country ... Heroes, by golly
      9. Rustam
        Rustam 9 December 2015 13: 44 New
        0
        Grabber2000 RU Today, 13:10 ↑
        Will be able!


        What can he do, having only 4 F-16Q units with Stone Age air-to-air missiles in service, sorry, they were not given AIM-120

        So you don’t have to sing military songs, but rather learn the materiel of both countries
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      11. veksha50
        veksha50 9 December 2015 14: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Grabber2000
        Теперь дело за малым - если не уйдут - прилетит чего то случайно, после чего в МИДе выскажут сожаление - "Ой мы ошиблись"! Пустыня же!



        In kindergarten such an option would be possible ...
        Unfortunately, Iraq, Turkey and NATO together with it are not a kindergarten ...
        И Турция туда не влезла бы без соизволения "папаши"-США...
    2. spiriolla-45
      spiriolla-45 9 December 2015 13: 20 New
      +2
      Now NATO (USA) will support Turkey with particular zeal, given its confrontation with Russia.
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 9 December 2015 13: 22 New
      +2
      It can :: there is already an official statement by the Iraqi prime minister on the provision of military assistance in the form of using the aerospace bomber aircraft.
    4. moskowit
      moskowit 9 December 2015 13: 41 New
      -1
      "И я, и я, и я того же мнения..."
    5. Tor5
      Tor5 9 December 2015 13: 45 New
      +2
      And it would be great to fuck them! After all, they warned and gave time ....
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    7. Konstantin Yu
      Konstantin Yu 9 December 2015 14: 12 New
      0
      Quote: sever.56
      ... that NATO is beneficial to have Turkey in its composition.

      .. Вот именно "ИМЕТЬ" Турцию ..всем составом. Как обычно держат одного ( с украми-двух) выскачку для провокаций... есль что, слить не жалко..
    8. 222222
      222222 9 December 2015 14: 47 New
      +2
      7 December 2015.
      Turkey requests $ 70 million bombs from US
      ..The Government of Turkey has requested a possible sale of Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) tail kits
      comprised of 400 GBU-31 (V) 1 for use with Mk84 bombs, 200 GBU-31 (V) 3 for use with BLU-109 bombs, 300
      GBU-38 for use with Mk82 bombs, 100 GBU-54 Laser JDAM kits for use with Mk82 bombs, 200 BLU-109
      Hard Target Penetrator Warheads, and1000 FMU-152A / B fuzes. Non-MDE includes containers, support
      equipment, spare and repair parts, integration, test equipment, publications and technical documentation,
      personnel training and training equipment, US Government and contractor engineering and technical support,
      and other related elements of logistics support.
      The estimated cost is $ 70 million
    9. theadenter
      theadenter 9 December 2015 16: 13 New
      0
      Turkey violated the sovereignty of a neighboring state. The international community will not intervene until the troops of neighboring countries enter Turkish territory.
  2. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 9 December 2015 13: 09 New
    +4
    Cowards Iraqis. The aggressor needs to be destroyed on its territory (especially after previously uttered threat statements), and not to conduct reconnaissance.

    Pisi: In an extreme case - reconnaissance in battle.
    1. spiriolla-45
      spiriolla-45 9 December 2015 13: 24 New
      +2
      The area where the Turks are located is de facto not subordinate to Iraq, and the Turks recognized the Barzani government. Baghdad, except for crowing, can’t do anything now.
    2. Rustam
      Rustam 9 December 2015 13: 49 New
      0
      Mama_Cholli (3) SU Today, 13:09
      Cowards Iraqis. Destroy the aggressor on its territory


      One more thing to humiliate then? or how in the good old chain of machine guns to the last? And there, Kurds of Barzani for the Turks and Yes, Give-it will be fun, you can certainly attract Iran
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 11 December 2015 07: 03 New
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        Quote: Rustam
        Mama_Cholli (3) SU Today, 13:09
        Cowards Iraqis. Destroy the aggressor on its territory


        One more thing to humiliate then? or how in the good old chain of machine guns to the last? And there, Kurds of Barzani for the Turks and Yes, Give-it will be fun, you can certainly attract Iran

        Another who believes that the Iraqi Kurds themselves invited their worst enemies to their territory.
    3. Pomeranian
      Pomeranian 9 December 2015 13: 51 New
      0
      They can strike only with aviation. The Kurds will not let in infantry and equipment.
    4. Pomeranian
      Pomeranian 9 December 2015 13: 51 New
      0
      They can strike only with aviation. The Kurds will not let in infantry and equipment.
  3. Air Force captain
    Air Force captain 9 December 2015 13: 10 New
    +7
    The Turks generally beguiled the shores ... I think everything goes to the fact that soon the fight against ISIS in Syria will smoothly flow into an operation to force peace in Turkland
    1. 78bor1973
      78bor1973 9 December 2015 13: 17 New
      +4
      Actually, the Turks consider Iraq and Syria their territory, only Russians in Syria and Iraq do not have them, so long as they don't get the tough in there, nothing will change!
  4. Engineer
    Engineer 9 December 2015 13: 10 New
    +9
    Reconnaissance in battle must be carried out! Yes, no one - all the soldiers of the army of Hussein have long been fighting on the side of ISIS.
  5. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 9 December 2015 13: 10 New
    +3
    It is necessary to beat the Turks gently, but it hurts! laughing
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 December 2015 13: 16 New
    +3
    Now whoever has more show-offs will practice and everything will calm down. Iraq is still not in that weight category to butt with Turkey, which suffered in full.
  7. The black
    The black 9 December 2015 13: 18 New
    +2
    and I want to and pricks and dad (usa) does not order ... laughing
  8. silver_roman
    silver_roman 9 December 2015 13: 19 New
    +3
    сами по себе турки - ссыкуны редкие. уверен, что за ними стоят штаты, ибо они уже бы 100 раз обосрались наши ЛА сбивать и еще территорию оккупировать Ирака. А т.к. СБ ООН состоит в основном из последних проституток, которые промолчали, значит их яйца "кто-то" очень сильно сжимает в кулаке.
    But on the other hand, if the Turks are destroyed in Iraq, then the 5th NATO amendment will not be violated, because there was no attack on Turkey, but only a defense against Turkey! I think it will. Shuffle a couple of calibers and then use the aircraft and turntables to finish. There is essentially nothing to finish. a couple of dozen old trash MBT Yankees and 1000 beard Janissaries.
    1. The black
      The black 9 December 2015 13: 25 New
      +5
      Это мы то должны по туркам в ираке из калибров шарахать?. А почему бы этого не сделать америкосам? Не забывай, что у власти в Ираке те, кого "избрал" свободолюбивый народ США laughing (white house) ... So we don’t need to get involved in Iraq. Why please Obama? hi
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 9 December 2015 13: 33 New
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        Quote: Black
        Why not do this to the Americans?

        Turks - Faithful 6 Yankees. why kill your dogs ?!
        Iraq almost no longer exists. It is so ... a miserable semblance of past greatness. there’s nothing to fight for.
        Our calibers, turntables and LA - Iraq. It seems like they bought equipment from us and from the states. Something must be there.
        1. The black
          The black 9 December 2015 13: 42 New
          +1
          I understand that the Turks and the Americans are in the same harness. Hence the question, but doesn’t it seem strange to you that Iraq was going to contact us right away, why didn’t they complain to the Americans? For me, this is a feint for Iraqi ears. The goal is to drag us into Iraq as well.
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 9 December 2015 15: 17 New
            0
            and the meaning of knocking on a door that is probably closed?
            Iraq understands this. Moreover, this does not officially channel, there is a UN Security Council for this. At an unofficial level, I’m sure the contacts were with the Yankees. Now the news has appeared that they want to withdraw from the security agreement with the states ...
            Moreover, Iraq did not immediately intend to contact us. And until then he did not apply.
            In addition, who else should I contact? There are 2 forces in the region, the first - the Yankees with their own 6, the second - we are in splendid isolation. request
      2. Konstantin Yu
        Konstantin Yu 9 December 2015 14: 25 New
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        Quote: Black
        Это мы то должны по туркам в ираке из калибров шарахать?. А почему бы этого не сделать америкосам? Не забывай, что у власти в Ираке те, кого "избрал" свободолюбивый народ США laughing (white house) ... So we don’t need to get involved in Iraq. Why please Obama? hi

        ...." свободолюбивый народ белого дома")).. Достал уже всех
  9. Same lech
    Same lech 9 December 2015 13: 26 New
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    The country's air force conducted aerial reconnaissance and established the exact coordinates of the places of concentration of Turkish troops


    And then what?

    The data of such reconnaissance is valuable for a short time and over time their value tends to zero ... the enemy will not change his location and will again need additional reconnaissance ....
    so it can go on ad infinitum
  10. Wolka
    Wolka 9 December 2015 13: 28 New
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    nothing will happen, but the Turks should still be put in place ...
  11. AlexTires
    AlexTires 9 December 2015 13: 35 New
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    And why didn’t they fly, tossed it up - it would be for the Turks napalm to sugre, so as not to drive the equipment twice! recourse
  12. Pomeranian
    Pomeranian 9 December 2015 13: 47 New
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    Here it is worth considering a whole bunch of small nuances.
    1. Сможет ли Ирак нанести поражение турецким войскам? Да влёгкую. Пообещает центральное правительство иракским автономию курдам, вуаля, прекрасно обученная и неплохо организованная пехота у них есть.Думаю, чтобы пощекотать афедрон "друга Эрдогана" откуда-нибудь и техника появится. Абхазия, например, продаст.
    2. Is NATO intervention possible under 5 Article of the Charter? Unlikely. Firstly, Turkish troops are on foreign territory. Secondly, none of the Iraqi official authorities recognized by the same West called them there. That is, this is an invasion. NATO will not subscribe.
    3: As the previous speaker rightly remarked, the Turks recognized the Barzani government. And who else? And no one, therefore, for the whole world, the Turks support the separatists who violate territorial integrity. Not like Russia in the Donbass - by humcon convoys, but by its troops. There is nothing to cover the West.
    4. We conclude - soon its owners will merge Erdogan.
    Threat. Sorry for the mnogabukaf. And for me, it’s a mystery: how did the Kurds cooperate with their eternal enemy? Or, like everywhere else, does a fish rot from its head?
    1. Rustam
      Rustam 9 December 2015 14: 03 New
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      Pomeranian SU Today, 13:47 PM New

      Here it is worth considering a whole bunch of small nuances.


      Yah wink

      1. The Kurdish Peshmerga Barzani, trained and equipped by the USA and Germany, feels great with the Turks and everything is charming with them, the flows of fuel trucks go where necessary
      2. Why Turks NATO intervention? The Turkish army is head and shoulders higher both morally and in equipping the Iraqi army - there are no problems there, unless Iran fits in, the government in Baghdad is dependent on the United States there
      3. Yes to the West do not care when they need they close their eyes
      4. not a fact, and a lot of helpers and patrons in the person of Qatar and Saudi Arabia

      reference

      Военно-воздушные силы Турции, по приблизительным данным, насчитывают около 40 многоцелевых истребителей NF-5Е "Тайгер" канадского производства, 237 F-16С/ F-16D "Фалькон" (часть истребителей была произведена по лицензии в самой Турции фирмой "Turkish Aerospace Industries"); авиапарк учебно-тренировочных самолётов представлен 68 машинами Т-38М и 24 Т-41D. Военно-транспортная авиация имеет на вооружении 18 самолётов C.160 "Трансалл" франко-германского производства, 13 С-130В/С-130Е "Геркулес", 61 Tusas CN-235M (испанский самолёт фирмы CASA также производился в Турции по лицензии), два новейших "транспортника" А400М. Кроме того, на вооружение турецких ВВС поступили три самолёта дальнего радиолокационного обнаружения (ДРЛО) Е-737-700. Вертолётные части имеют в своём составе 106 многоцелевых машин UH-1Н "Ирокез", 98 десантных S-70 "Блэк Хок", 49 разведывательных AB-204/206, 44 ударных вертолёта АН-1F/АН-1W "Супер Кобра", 89 машин AS.532AL французского производства, 18 многоцелевых вертолётов Ми-17 (используются в жандармерии),вертолеты Т-129B Турецкой сборки
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  13. Belarus
    Belarus 9 December 2015 13: 50 New
    +2
    Согласен с тем,что "власти" Ирака ничего не сделают и ограничатся только пустыми заявлениями и такими же просьбами.Иракское правительство контролирует только отдельные районы в Багдаде.Тем кто руководит Ираком на самом деле глубоко плевать на то,что там бормочет руководитель каких-то районов Багдада.
    Nobody will bomb the Turkish units for a number of reasons, one of which is that the Iraqi F-16s cannot take off without the permission of the American side, much less bombing someone (there is such a point in conditions for the supply of aircraft from America to Iraq).
    And to ask the Russian Aerospace Forces to strike at Turkish units in Iraq, then I’m sorry, I’m not fools.
    How will this end? Nothing, they’ll just let everyone down on the brakes.
  14. Recoil
    Recoil 9 December 2015 14: 02 New
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    People, you persistently forget that Turkey is a member of NATO.
    She can do what is pleasing and with whom it is pleasing. She wants to, will shoot down our planes, if the USA permits, she will take a piece of Iraq, Syria or some other Libya.
    And we will swallow it all, kneeling.
    Or are you for World War III?
    1. Tanker55
      Tanker55 9 December 2015 14: 24 New
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      She can do what is pleasing and with whom it is pleasing. He wants to bring down our planes, if the US permits
      Dear Kickback, it might not be worth talking so loudly and harshly. There is a time and a deadline for everything. There is still such a thing as patience.
    2. Cossack Ermak
      Cossack Ermak 9 December 2015 14: 30 New
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      Quote: Rollback
      People, you persistently forget that Turkey is a member of NATO.
      She can do what is pleasing and with whom it is pleasing. She wants to, will shoot down our planes, if the USA permits, she will take a piece of Iraq, Syria or some other Libya.
      And we will swallow it all, kneeling.
      Or are you for World War III?

      That's exactly the same way Hitler was indulged. If only there was no second world .... Although, of course, Erdogan to Hitler, as if on foot to the moon.
  15. Cossack Ermak
    Cossack Ermak 9 December 2015 14: 33 New
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    Razbombya Turks at home Iraq does not risk anything.
    1. The Turks were warned. Gave them time.
    2. Iraq does not violate international laws.
    3. you can always otmazyvatsya, saying that we mixed up and hit ISIS, since the good-neighborly Turkish troops a priori should not be on the territory of friendly Iraq. wink
  16. 31rus
    31rus 9 December 2015 14: 40 New
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    Dear, what are you talking about? Turkey shot down a Russian plane, even Medvedev confirmed the war during the Soviet era without warning, now we can’t, so what do you want from Iraq? From Syria?
  17. salad
    salad 9 December 2015 14: 49 New
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    Perdogan stupid rushing to Iraq, will not go far! not a big skirmish, and all and then declare that Turkey is participating in the war and block the strait! solely for these reasons 100%
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 9 December 2015 16: 46 New
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      Damn how you got with these straits, go read the convention, under what conditions and to whom, Turkey can block the straits !!!
  18. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 9 December 2015 14: 51 New
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    It is time to help Iraq in this noble cause ... Yes, and Russian pilots must avenge their innocent Turks killed ...
  19. SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 9 December 2015 18: 40 New
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    Quote: rrrj
    Quote: Wend
    Iraq did the right thing. War is on hand only to the United States. Why follow their lead.

    Ооо да, такое может говорить только человек не уважающий свою родину - любой ценой нужно ее отбивать - а у вас - ну ниче - это ж не всю страну захватили - такие <!--filter:патриоты-->патриоты-->патриоты<!--/filter--> все мимо ушей прохлопают.


    You smell Russian for two kilometers! And I shake your hand, not an inch of the earth, not a single high-rise! But they are unfortunately Arabs, the mentality is slightly different!
  20. Gunther
    Gunther 10 December 2015 23: 03 New
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    Baghdad seems to be of little interest to the United States:
    "В Ирак и Сирию могут быть введены сухопутные войска под эгидой США.
    Речь идёт о 100-тысячном контингенте. Но воевать с"Исламским государством" Вашингтон, судя по всему, собирается чужими руками - 90 тысяч солдат и офицеров перебросят из арабских государств, прежде всего, из Саудовской Аравии, Объединённых Арабских Эмиратов, Катара и Иордании. У главы иракского правительства эта инициатива, по данным источника, вызвала недоумение, however, McCain allegedly stated that everything had already been decided in Washington."
    In the light of this decision, the introduction of the occupying Turkish forces seems consistent.
  21. Gunther
    Gunther 10 December 2015 23: 03 New
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    Baghdad seems to be of little interest to the United States:
    "В Ирак и Сирию могут быть введены сухопутные войска под эгидой США.
    Речь идёт о 100-тысячном контингенте. Но воевать с"Исламским государством" Вашингтон, судя по всему, собирается чужими руками - 90 тысяч солдат и офицеров перебросят из арабских государств, прежде всего, из Саудовской Аравии, Объединённых Арабских Эмиратов, Катара и Иордании. У главы иракского правительства эта инициатива, по данным источника, вызвала недоумение, however, McCain allegedly stated that everything had already been decided in Washington."
    In the light of this decision, the introduction of the occupying Turkish forces seems consistent.