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Developers of strategic strike complexes return to Soviet rails


The Moscow Institute of Heat Engineering, in cooperation with a number of enterprises, is actively working on the creation of a new Barguzin combat railroad missile complex (BZHRK). In this regard, it is worth remembering that we already had a BZHRK RT-23UTTH (“Good for you”), which caused serious concern to our military-political opponents.

For many years the existence of BZHRK in our country, and even more so the data on their appearance were strictly confidential information. Activities in this area were conducted in compliance with the strictest regime measures.

At the very beginning of the development of rocket and space systems, it became clear that it would not be possible to keep the location of strategic missile installations secret. Then different thoughts about character were voiced, different scenarios of future wars were considered. There were serious discussions involving the military and industry. As a result, the doctrine of guaranteed retaliation, that is, deterrence, was approved.

Accordingly, measures were required to increase the combat stability of ground-based RK. It was believed that mobile missile systems (PPK), or at least part of them, would survive and be able to participate in a retaliatory strike.

Sketches of the future complex


Work on PPH developed in two directions. The Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering was engaged in a mobile soil rocket complex (PGRK), and BZhRK was engaged in the USSR Ministry of General Engineering.

The development program of the RT-23 and RT-23UTTH complexes, including BZHRK, involved a unique cooperation of enterprises of industrial ministries and the Ministry of Defense of the USSR. A qualitatively new system required the solution of many problems in the field of technology, new materials, element base. Direct state regulation was carried out by the Commission on Military-Industrial Issues under the USSR Council of Ministers. The Ministry of Defense acted as a state customer, controlled the process, carried out certain types of work. Minobschemash was responsible for the task as a whole and the main components of the complexes.

Rocket invisibleThe Dnepropetrovsk Yuzhnoye design bureau, led by general designer Vladimir Utkin, became the head organization involved in the creation of the BZHRK RT-23UTTH, as well as first-stage rockets and engines.

Yuzhnoye Design Bureau worked together with the Southern Machine-Building Plant Production Association; they were located on the same territory and formed a Dnepropetrovsk rocket cluster together with related enterprises. The Pavloradsky mechanical plant, which was part of the software, manufactured and tested solid fuel engines of Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, assembled and tested missiles of the RT-23 family, assembled, tested and handed over BZHRK.

The St. Petersburg Design Bureau for Special Engineering was responsible for the combat railway complex as a whole and the launcher (PU). Perm NPO Iskra - for the complex of the third stage. Moscow Research Institute of Automation and Instrumentation - for the control system. The Moscow-based Central Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering analyzed the prospects for the development of rocket technology, carried out the examination of design materials for the complexes, analyzed the course of experiments. In total, several hundreds of industrial enterprises participated in the program.

BZHRK was not born from scratch. The basis for it was the work carried out in the USSR in the 50 – 60-s in the various RoKs. On the other hand, in the USSR, for many years they were engaged in heavy artillery systems on railway transporters. A specific experience has been accumulated, which served as the starting point for the appearance (of course, on a different technical basis) of railway starting RK. However, this apparently attractive idea turned out to be extremely difficult to implement. The level of development of rocket production, solid-propelled engine building, materials, solid fuels, control systems was still insufficient. The military and industrialists did not form a unified view of the necessary characteristics. There were heated discussions, tactical and technical tasks changed many times. What was happening had a great influence on the seductive idea of ​​saving time and money by creating unified missiles for various complexes or at least unifying their basic elements.

At the first stage in 1967, a draft design of RC RT-21 appeared, one of the variants of which was the railway complex. The weight of the RT-21 with the transport and launch container (TPK) was estimated at 42 tons, the length together with TPK is 17 meters. The rocket had three stages, all used solid fuel engines with a mixed fuel.

The project of a railway complex with the RT-21 showed the fundamental possibility of the emergence of mobile railway complexes of intercontinental range and served as a prototype for subsequent development of the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau.

However, all work on the PT-21 stopped at the stage of sketches. Numerous updates needed a new element base, fuels, materials. At the same time, the requirements of the customer in the person of the Ministry of Defense grew faster than the possibilities of their implementation.

In pursuit of the wishes of the customer


At the next stage, Yuzhnoye Design Bureau is entrusted with the preparation of the RT-22 complex with the solid fuel 15ХХNNXX rocket, the starting mass of which was to be determined on the basis of the dimensions of the mine launchers that are in service with the RT-43 and SD-2, and also considering the possibility of the appearance of a mobile complex rail-based. That is, it was about unification. Based on this, the starting weight 100Ж15 with intercontinental range was already 43 tons.

In 1969, the principle of approval was obtained. But the transition from active design to the next stage failed: the customer was not satisfied with the effectiveness of the rocket, as well as the high cost and duration of the creation of the complex. In 1973, the program was frozen. Nevertheless, the possibility of a significant increase in the energy of the rocket through the use of new fuels has been proven. The provision of power for the production of the engines themselves and their testing turned out to be extremely important. A fundamental shift in the solid-fuel direction occurred at the stage of work on the PT-22 complex, when a large-size solid-fuel 15D122 appeared.

This was followed by the birth of a family of unified large-sized engines for the first stages of rockets. It was necessary to ensure the general design of the first-stage engines for the PT-23 and the D-19 naval rocket. Yuzhnoye Design Bureau and Machine Building Design Bureau jointly engaged in determining mutually acceptable characteristics. By May, 1973-th managed to choose the parameters for the first stages of both.

It was not possible to achieve complete unification, but most of the constructive solutions for ЗД65 were used when creating 15Д206 for 15Ж44.

3D65 generally went very hard. The main problems were related to ensuring the efficiency of the thrust vector control system, which was carried out by blowing “hot” gas into the supercritical part of the nozzle. Many tests ended in accidents, each of them was perceived as a disaster. Due to the heroic efforts of the developers and leading industry institutions, the marine complex was nevertheless put into operation.

Against this background, in 1973, the construction of the RT-23 complex with a stationary mine start was started.

A permanent increase by the customer of the performance requirements, on the one hand, required the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau to constantly search for ways to implement them, and in some cases this led to original conclusions, and on the other, it certainly increased the creation time of the complex.

As a result of the heated debate on the dimension of the rocket, a decision was made about the launch mass of about 100 tons. Subsequently, the following mass-dimensional characteristics were clarified: the starting mass ~ 106 tons (subject to the limitations under the SALT-2 Agreement) and the length in the transport position — the 21,9 meter (to ensure the planned placement in the BZHRK PU). The rocket was originally supposed with monoblock combat equipment and was intended for installation in stationary mine PU. However, in 1979, the requirements changed again: they considered it appropriate to replace the monoblock warhead with a split, capable of carrying up to 10 warheads and a set of means to overcome missile defense. There was also an order to create not only a stationary complex with 15Ж44, but also a combat railway complex with 15Ж52 (based on 15Ж44).

Caution, the roof opens


In parallel with the birth of the rocket, work was under way on a combat railway launch complex (BZHSK). A very large amount of ground-based experimental refinement of rocket elements and the launch complex, their systems was required. For carrying out several cycles of transport tests prepared three special trains.

15Ж61 BZHRK RT-23 in the final form in the TLC had a length of 21,9 meters, in flight with a nadduty tip it increased to 23 meters. Diameter - 2,4 meter. Starting weight - 104,5 tons. Serious equipment included, in particular, up to 10 warheads.

The rocket in the car was in TPK. During operation, it was not removed from it. The opening roof of the car was used not only during start-up, but also during technological operations.

During the launch, BZHRK stopped if it was in motion. Then, the special contact system was set aside with a special system, additional side supports of the starting car and elements of the aiming system were exposed. After that, the roof was opened and, using a pneumatic drive with a powder accumulator of pressure, the TPC with a rocket was raised to a vertical position. Then a mortar launch was made.

One of the main tasks in creating the BZhSK is the need to reduce the load on the axles of the starting carriage to acceptable values. The mass of PU together with the missile in TPC exceeded 200 tons, which, with a reasonable number of axles, contributed to an unacceptable load on each. The problem was solved by transferring part of the load to adjacent, front and rear cars using special devices and using an increased number of axles - two four-axle carts instead of the usual two-axle ones. This method of reducing the load on the axle with its decomposition into adjacent cars was previously used in heavy artillery rail installations. The power elements of the three-car trailer were hidden in the inter-car junctions.

A three-car coupler was a starting module that was not divided during normal operation. In BZHRK there were three such modules. If necessary, each of them could go on patrol routes on their own (it was enough to attach one of the locomotives available in the BZHRK).

To provide start-ups on electrified sections of roads, they designed a rather complicated system of shorting and retraction of the contact network. This was necessary to ensure the launch from any point of the patrol route. BZHRK was equipped with equipment not only conventional communication systems, but also a special combat control system.

The duration of the stay of personnel in a confined space, working conditions and habitability BZHRK was similar to a missile submarine. In the cars BZHRK personnel placed in the compartment. There were warehouses of food and consumables, kitchens, canteens. Places of combat duty in their design resembled workplaces of personnel of stationary RK.

Flight tests BZHRK RT-23, then RT-23UTTH were conducted at the Plesetsk range under the direction of the state commission. The first launch of 15Ж44 for a stationary start took place in October 1982 of the year. Testing of 15Ж52 from BZHRK began in January of 1984.

Immediately, the need to further improve the characteristics of the rocket, retrofitting the launch complex became obvious. A special plan of measures was developed for the complex with improved tactical and technical characteristics (UTTH). BZHRK with UTTH received the name "Well done".

The first launch of the RT-23UTTH (15Ж61) from BZHRK took place in April 1985 of the year, even before the completion of the RT-23 start (15Ж52) from the railway start. Flight tests BZHRK RT-XNUMHUTTH ended in December 23-th. Later, in 1987 and 1998, two more test runs were carried out.

Combat duty with and without departure

The development of BZHRK began in the Kostroma missile division. The first regiment was formed in advance, back in 1983 year. The command of the division and the regiment had to practically develop the new railway equipment from scratch, create a training material base, equip posts for duty and BZHRK parking places.

The first missile regiment with the RT-23UTTH was up on experimental combat duty in October of the 1987. In total, three missile divisions were deployed, armed with BZHRK with RT-23UTTH. They operated 12 BZHRK, each of which was a regiment. He was armed with one train with three PU.

Contrary to popular belief BZHRK not "worn" throughout the country, although they could. Their operation was carried out in the positional areas allocated for each division. In each there was a point of permanent deployment in which the trains were serviced. The compositions were located at a distance of several kilometers from each other in stationary structures. With increasing levels of alert, they could disperse on combat patrol routes. When moving along the country's railway network, the BZhRK made it possible to quickly change the starting positions up to a thousand kilometers a day.

After the decision was made to deploy BZhRK, the Ministry of Railways of the USSR carried out extensive work to prepare future combat patrol routes. Modernized several thousand kilometers of ways.

A feature of the BZHRK was that before it could arrive at the point of permanent dislocation, it was moved from the factory in Pavlograd to a nearby station. It was kept for seven days, showing all the partners of the START Treaty to all the space reconnaissance equipment. And only after that they were sent to the point of permanent deployment. Formally, this flowed from the Soviet-American strategic arms control treaties. Another and more weighty reason is the demonstration to a potential aggressor of real-life systems capable of striking back.

As for the identification of the enemy BZHRK on the patrol route, it was not completely invisible train. An experienced specialist could see that this is an unusual train. But where and when he will proceed further is not reliably determined.

Practice has shown that with a well-developed warning system of an enemy attack and a BZHRK movement control system, providing for emergency exit from a parking lot, it was not possible to hit it or disable it. BZHRK during this time could retire to a distance, ensuring its survival. In the threatened period with bringing the troops to the highest levels of combat readiness, the intensity of the movement of BZhRK on patrol routes could be seriously increased.

Until 1991, the BZhRK of three divisions of the Strategic Missile Forces carried out military service on the USSR railways. This was a problem for the US military-political establishment. America constantly put pressure on the leadership of the USSR so that it would eliminate this threat. And achieved success in this. In 1991, the decision is made to maintain combat duty of the BZHRK at bases without leaving the country’s railway network. This almost completely deprived any sense of the existence of BZHRK. More than 10 years BZHRK stood, as they say, laid up.

In the next START-2 Treaty, signed in January 1993, the key provision was the elimination of all “heavy class” ICBMs and mobile missile systems. In response to the initiative of the United States about the alleged cessation of the development of the “MX” ICBM railroad-based, the leadership of our country hastened to announce the refusal of further deployment and modernization of the RS-23UTH ICBM.

King of the land ocean


The warranty period of the BZHRK 15P961 complex was initially relatively short. Then it was extended to 15 years. Accordingly, the use of the very first complexes put on duty became impossible in 2001. The service life of all 15Ж61 was naturally limited to the middle of the 2000-x.

Unlike domestic rocket engines with LRE, which remain operational in a filled state for three decades, rockets with solid propellant rocket motors by the specificity of the fuels used have a shorter service life.

In the United States, the elimination of solid-fuel charges from the engine housings and the subsequent filling them with new fuel was used to extend the lifespan of the Minuteman family of missiles. However, in the context of a rupture of political and economic ties between Russia and Ukraine, a shortage of funds, the unstable functioning of financial systems, the catastrophic degradation of governing bodies, the washing out of them of qualified and experienced specialists, such a program with respect to RT-23UTTH (15Х61) turned out to be unrealistic.

So the decommissioning and subsequent liquidation of 15Ж61 in 2002 – 2006 had not only political, but also technical, as well as organizational reasons. In September, the last rocket division of BZhRK was removed from combat duty by 2005. By the beginning of 2007, all 15Ж61 were disposed of (with American funds), and PUs were eliminated.

History BZhRK could have continued, because simultaneously with the adoption of the railway complex with RT-XNUMHUTTH, Yuzhnoye Design Bureau began the design work on the prospective Yermak solid-fuel complex (RT-XNUMHUTHM). All the experience gained was taken into account, new materials and fuels were applied. The program was frozen for political reasons.

In modern conditions, the presence in Russia of a capable army, including SNF effective in any conditions, remains a powerful factor of international stability, a guarantee of national sovereignty. They must survive in the event of a strike on Russia and inflict unacceptable damage to a potential aggressor, blocking his undesirable actions. There is no doubt that if Russia at the turn of the century did not keep the reduced but capable potential of strategic nuclear forces, history would have gone a completely different way.

PKK is one of the effective means of strategic nuclear forces. No wonder the United States achieved their elimination by Russia. BZHRK in a sense is the equivalent of nuclear submarines with SLBMs, the biggest plus of which remained the difficulty of detection and, accordingly, damage. But submarines operating in the oceans outside the territorial waters of the country are difficult to control and can be affected by a variety of reconnaissance and strike means. Moreover, these funds are developing rapidly. Boats need constant protection and support with very expensive and complex means. fleet.

At the same time, Russia has a unique resource - a huge sovereign territory, and in this land ocean BZHRK is difficult not only to be discovered, but also to hit. And the use of existing natural and man-made shelters makes this task even more difficult. In addition, it is much easier and cheaper to operate simple railway facilities, as well as points of permanent deployment on its territory, than submarines with SLBMs.

Of particular interest are mobile railway complexes as an effective means of countering the new US approach to deploying a missile defense system with a sea-based priority, whose funds can be transferred to any area of ​​the ocean. But even faster can be transferred across the territory of Russia BZHRK. Because of this, the deployment today of the creation of the Barguzin BZHRK is a major strategic task.
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  1. Loner_53
    Loner_53 12 December 2015 07: 01 New
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    By the beginning of 2007, all 15ZH61 were disposed of (with American funds), and PU were eliminated.

    They (partners) will give what grandmothers you want, if only we cut off the Bosko ourselves, and our liberals are happy to try sad
    Thank God! It seems to have reached the top that, if anything, then they (partners) will not regret it.
    1. ver_
      ver_ 12 December 2015 08: 26 New
      -31
      ... the article is a dummy ... for nothing and nothing ..
      1. Verkhomnapule
        Verkhomnapule 12 December 2015 14: 52 New
        +4
        justify! Why a dummy!
      2. mahor
        mahor 22 January 2016 22: 23 New
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        Quote: ver_
        ... the article is a dummy ... for nothing and nothing ..



        Here is a more complete article http://coollib.com/b/303788/read hi
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 12 December 2015 07: 22 New
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    I think that I will express a common opinion - we are looking forward to the “Barguzin” already ready on the rails, which means on guard of our borders! good
    1. pensioneree
      pensioneree 12 December 2015 14: 46 New
      +2
      Did we have something at a mine in Estonia? The closed site! But after the 90s, what did the metalworkers not bother ??? I myself saw the mouth of the mine and the ends of the cables ... on this I stopped believing Yeltsin. May the Lord V.V.P. for long years.
    2. The comment was deleted.
      1. Valentine
        Valentine 12 December 2015 20: 41 New
        +7
        Quote: tissot72
        And I have a grandmother with a pension of 12k, of which 5k is a communal apartment !!! URA, URA, URA!

        And you, granddaughter, didn’t try to help your grandmother, because you nursed you? But where is it for you, who will then knock on the clave.
        1. Banshee
          Banshee 12 December 2015 20: 51 New
          +2
          Granny, apparently, lives in those still mansions. My retired parents live in 3's room and pay less than me for a dvushku, for benefits. I have an average of about 3500.

          Interestingly, what a hut for 5 000? Well, if not in the center of Moscow, then it’s hard to imagine. Or retirement in 12 in Moscow need to submit?

          Liberobrehnya from the first to the last word.
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 12 December 2015 21: 29 New
            +4
            Quote: Banshee
            Liberobrehnya from the first to the last word.

            Ryazan. Three-room apartment on the 9th floor. Not the center. In November, paid almost 10 thousand. In fairness, there were holidays, grandchildren lived, the lights were on everywhere, computers did not turn off, every day they gurgled in the bathroom ..., i.e. water, light more. Now, alas, quietly, I'm waiting for the New Year holidays. In December, I expect to pay 8 with a tail.
            Quote: tissot72
            And at the same time three-fold URIA, URIA, URY !!! ....

            Yes, the people bear all the hardships and therefore I am against the economic policy of the government. But, "who does not want to feed his army will feed someone else's." Nothing in the world has changed. And without any "Urya!" I want our army to not need anything, neither weapons, nor specialists, nor provision. Only in this way will our country be able to fulfill the wish: “If only there was no war”.

            One of the main tasks in creating the BZHSK is the need to reduce the load on the axis of the launch car to permissible values.

            The Americans were not able to create their own DBC. The reason was that railways belong to various private companies in the USA. And in the USSR they were able to strengthen the railway tracks and bridges.
          2. Grim Reaper
            Grim Reaper 14 December 2015 18: 25 New
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            4500 for odnushka 2 people My son has 3500 for kopeck piece 2 people. It is in the winter. Management companies are different.
      2. varov14
        varov14 12 December 2015 22: 10 New
        +3
        Grandson, and I’m an old grandfather, but for the barguzin, you are a fool. I feel sorry for you, burn down and will not ask.
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 12 December 2015 07: 27 New
    +8
    such articles on the Internet, called the "button accordion", that is, as old as the threshing floor of the mammoth, they post the same thing every 3-4 months, without any new information, apparently for those suffering from the "Alzheimer" ...
    1. Duke
      Duke 12 December 2015 08: 18 New
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      DATA FOR 2015
      BZHRK OKR Barguzin
      On April 23, 2013, the Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia, Yuri Borisov, stated that a draft design of the BZHRK was currently underway, work was underway on technical projects. On December 18, 2013, the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, Colonel General Sergei Karakaev, announced that the outline design would be completed in the first half of 2014, but a final decision on the design of the BZHRK had not yet been made. As a result, the outline design of the complex was completed at the end of 2014. The media reported that as of mid-2015 is the first stage of the development work on the creation of the complex.
      In December 2014, the deputy commander of the Strategic Missile Forces announced to the media that the development of the BZHRK could soon begin, and the commander in chief of the Strategic Missile Forces announced a day later that the new complex was called Barguzin. The development of design documentation began in 2015 and is planned to be completed in mid-2016.
      The deployment of the new BZHRK is expected no earlier than 2018, and most likely in 2019
      Illustrations to the patent of TsKB Titan for a railway launcher.
      The numbers on the diagram indicate: 1 - a railway wagon or platform, 2 - a fixed sub-axle beam, 3 - a lifting boom, 4 - a boom lifting mechanism, 5 - a movable frame fixed to the boom with the possibility of longitudinal movement, 6 - TPK with a rocket , 7 - telescopic supports, 8 - base plates, 9 - rotary rods for "aiming" the supports on the rails of the railway sheet.

      Launcher - BZHRK - military railway missile system. The start is carried out from the TPK, brought to the starting position at the starting point from a special railway car with a drop-down roof. The composition of the BZHRK may technically include several wagons with ICBMs, as well as wagons providing combat alert and, probably, maintenance of the complex.
      According to media reports, as of 2014, a variant of the Barguzin BZHRK railway train with 6 launchers is being considered, which is equal to the Strategic Missile Forces regiment. The missile division will include 5 regiments of the Barguzin BZHRK.
      Missile - it is likely to use a missile similar to the previously created intercontinental missile systems with a minimum time of the active part of the trajectory and with the RGCH IN. As options, they can be considered as basic and ICBMs of the RS-24 Yars type and ICBM RS-26 Rubezh and 3M30 Bulava SLBMs. With a high probability, the degree of unification of missiles will be high, but less than 100%.
      According to media reports, as of 2014, a variant of the Barguzin BZHRK railway train with 6 launchers with Yars or Yars-M missiles is being considered.
      The design of the rocket is a three-stage rocket of a classic layout with a sequential arrangement of steps. With a high probability the missile will be equipped with a range of missile defense capabilities (KSP ABM).
      The control and guidance system is inertial autonomous.
      Engines - solid propellant rocket motors at all stages.
      Types of warheads - RGCH IN. Perhaps the use of promising maneuvering combat equipment.
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 12 December 2015 11: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      such articles on the Internet, called the "button accordion"

      In this case - not a button accordion!
      But, rather, the “rehash” of all that was previously known with the addition of new ones.
      Yes, and not intended for I-net. The article, as it were, an understanding of the past and upcoming tasks. Journal "VPK News" is an industry publication.

      In this case, by the way, what remained behind the scenes is that in fact the RT-23UTTH (15Ж61) was a "monster" for mobile complexes. For stationary mines, wherever it goes. But, moving 100 from extra tons is not an easy task.

      Not least of all, this was due to the fact that it was not possible at that time to reduce the mass, including through the use of the so-called progressive method of "oscillating nozzle with variable thrust vector" (thrust vector control - UHT). Instead, the method of "deviating heavy masses from the flight vector" (in the last steps) and "blowing gases into the supercritical region of the nozzle" (in the first) were used at 15Ж61.
  4. ararat
    ararat 12 December 2015 07: 40 New
    +7
    When will they appear in combat duty in Russia? The states and NATO rats are already near our borders and are stuck with their missile defense.
  5. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 12 December 2015 07: 48 New
    +3
    Thanks to the author for the work .. although nothing new .. And .... "Barguzin" it really will be a "little thing" which is hard to overestimate. Say, the needle in the haystack in terms of detection, America's headache ... it's practically nothing say ... how will appear and hear the dog howl and screech from behind a puddle, we will evaluate. With one word "Barguzin" a lovely nuclear wind
  6. midshipman
    midshipman 12 December 2015 08: 11 New
    12
    I read the article and thought about how we could recycle what safeguarded our country, which I mean heavy installations under the START-2 treaty. Now you have to catch up.
    I remembered my father’s letters that he left us when, back in 1941, he had the opportunity to come home from a position. We were already evacuated to Siberia. Father created heavy railway artillery on the Leningrad front. Then our engineers were able to quickly put on the platform naval guns MU-2 and B-38. The firing range was about 30 km. He wrote to mom and me about the work to create these railway troops. He shared difficulties and successes. He could not write and mail such letters because of censorship. And I wanted to share with my wife. The railway gun mounts created with his participation made a huge role in protecting our city, especially in the Pulkovo direction, as I learned many years later. Father died on December 27, 1941 in combat positions. I have the honor.
    1. Valentine
      Valentine 12 December 2015 20: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: midshipman
      I read the article and thought about how we could recycle what safeguarded our country, which I mean heavy installations under the START-2 treaty. Now you have to catch up.

      Thanks to the “perestroika” Gorbachev and the alcoholic Yeltsin for this, that everyone understands. It remains only to urgently catch up. The US plan for our destruction is designed for decades, but with the help of “our” homegrown fifth column, they may well
      really shorten this period.
  7. kuz363
    kuz363 12 December 2015 08: 18 New
    +2
    In many places there are railway tunnels - the Urals, the Caucasus, Siberia, the Far East ... This is an excellent protection for a missile defense against a nuclear explosion, as well as masking. Not a single satellite will see. Only it is necessary to make branches from the main branch and separate tunnels for the DBC. Also can be used as repair shops.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 December 2015 15: 45 New
      -3
      Quote: kuz363
      Only it is necessary to make branches from the main branch and separate tunnels for the DBC. Also can be used as repair shops.

      and no one will notice ... you are a dreamer, my friend.
    2. Valentine
      Valentine 12 December 2015 21: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: kuz363
      In many places there are railway tunnels - the Urals, the Caucasus, Siberia, the Far East ... This is an excellent protection for a missile defense against a nuclear explosion, as well as masking. Not a single satellite will see. Only it is necessary to make branches from the main branch and separate tunnels for the DBC. Also can be used as repair shops.

      Do not worry, we have enough of such places, and with the branching of our railway railways, looking for a “certain” ant in an anthill is a futile business.
    3. mahor
      mahor 22 January 2016 22: 27 New
      0
      Quote: kuz363
      In many places there are railway tunnels - the Urals, the Caucasus, Siberia, the Far East ... This is an excellent protection for a missile defense against a nuclear explosion, as well as masking. Not a single satellite will see. Only it is necessary to make branches from the main branch and separate tunnels for the DBC. Also can be used as repair shops.


      Tests for the stability of the complex. Undermined nearby 1 ct. Then the complex started the car .....
  8. Mazuk
    Mazuk 12 December 2015 08: 19 New
    +4
    In general, IMHO, but the topic with the railway component of military hardware in the arms structure (in the RF Armed Forces) is not justly “modest” and not deservedly developed.
    Agree that the railway network is a “predictable” locale of any military component, but taking into account the geographic conditions of our state and potential geopolitical claims, they have no alternative in terms of the potential for responding to various challenges.
    I think that (IMHO) it would be advisable to develop not only the strategic component on the railway platform, but also tactical systems, as well as means of "close combat". For example, as a kind of armored train with the presence on board of "Iskander", "calibers", air defense / missile defense.
    For example, part of the railway train has tactical means (for 500-2000 / 5000 km), and part of the composition of the air defense / missile defense system both has a long range (s400 / 500) and near / medium for self-defense or operational cover of any strategic objects. Also, for example, the railway composition is pure with an air defense / missile defense component.
    Or purely "close combat" (up to 500 km) - MLRS, kaolitsiya, beech, torus, armor. It seems to me that it would be interesting, but even attempts to move in this direction are not traced, or maybe there are some pitfalls in this direction? Logically, after all, the nomenclature of potential weapon systems is already there, you just need to adapt it.

    Z.Y. I just thought that in LDNR such toys (near radius) will begin to “rivet”. I put on the "locomotive" in the small-scale "masked wagons" of the MLRS and the barrel artillery and deliver the "ptrons", fuel and drugs to the front line. Yes, and the operational movement of the "large mass" will not be superfluous, well, from the "OBSa" something can somehow be "washed away". IMHO
    1. Moore
      Moore 12 December 2015 10: 45 New
      +2
      The use of railway trains for tactical and operational tactical purposes in technical terms, I think it has no problems.
      The question is whether the tactical aviation of the enemy could be affected by them - this was the scourge of armored trains already in the Second World War, and other means of destruction.
      To this we must add the problem of interaction and logistics. Even at the BZHRK, for example, they faced such a problem: at one station there could be a BSPB BZHRK and some sort of unloading unit in the interests of the front. The closer to the front, the more problems there will be.
      And one more thing: I’m looking at one claimed diesel locomotive as part of the complex. Does this mean that he will not be able to leave in a dispersed order, like the first samples in Kostroma? Or will the launch section be itself vicious Pinocchio and ride on some sort of traction with one hundred percent provision for the removal of the brain to railway workers?
    2. TOR2
      TOR2 12 December 2015 14: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: Mazuk
      Also, for example, the railway composition is pure with an air defense / missile defense component.

      It is possible that the developers will sooner or later come to the creation of a whole class of weapons based on the BZHRK. Moreover, visually such trains will be the same, which will make it difficult to detect trains with intercontinental missiles. Let's say the same trains with air defense / electronic warfare systems are nowadays necessary to protect vital centers. It is clear that in the event of an attack on such centers, the mitts will spare neither iron nor "meat" (for example, Polish). For our complexes in this case, the automatic supply of ammunition will be necessary, and it can be arranged just on such trains.
  9. atakan
    atakan 12 December 2015 12: 02 New
    0
    He scrolled diagonally, the eye didn’t have to catch, the comments are more interesting.
    The years are not the same, now the situation is far from zero, when during the installation of these same BZHRK beacons will be built into the design (greetings from NATO).
    1. alexng
      alexng 12 December 2015 12: 40 New
      +3
      Beacons at strategic sites are immediately detected when they are first triggered. So do not carry nonsense designed for losers.
    2. TOR2
      TOR2 12 December 2015 16: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: atakan
      beacons will be built into the design (greetings from NATO).

      Beacons look very impressive in all sorts of action movies. The reality is somewhat different. A number of technical difficulties arise here. The first is its location. If you place it inside or below, the satellite simply will not hear it. If from the outside, then they will quickly find him. The second problem is nutrition. Standalone beacon in standby mode how long will it work? And he will have to work in difficult conditions. While driving, let's say in winter the battery capacity will drop quickly. The third is the size limit, with all the ensuing minuses.
      And this is only the tip of the iceberg and is greatly simplified.
  10. IgorND
    IgorND 12 December 2015 12: 32 New
    +3
    He served in the BZHRK for two years in the nineties, during the service, American inspectors came three times, so we all were removed from our posts, they were sitting on the compartment. Overboard for minus 40, and we are warm, the Americans are watching)))) Before arrival, the numbers were sealed on all the cars, and the equipment at the command post was covered with blankets, before being inspected, the inspectors broke off.
  11. da Vinci
    da Vinci 12 December 2015 12: 38 New
    +2
    I think that to make such a complex is a solvable task. In addition, you can make a dozen false trains that carry potatoes in similar wagons, but can greatly confuse the cards for a "likely friend" wink.
    1. Junior, I
      Junior, I 12 December 2015 14: 03 New
      +2
      And why build false trains to spend extra money if the BZHRK already provides for the construction of a standard wagon. I don’t see the logic or are you cutting!
    2. plotnikov561956
      plotnikov561956 12 December 2015 14: 15 New
      +2
      Look at what is being done along the paths of a large station ... the masking question will disappear
      1. da Vinci
        da Vinci 12 December 2015 18: 55 New
        +1
        Unmasking signs: a special train may have some increased radioactive background; there will be a powerful locomotive for only 8-10 cars, among which there will be 6-7 refrigerators and 1-2 passenger cars (otherwise how to hide the accompanying ones, if it is even more suspicious in the "refrigerators"); most likely there will be a modified chassis; the presence of reinforced army guards; special corridor for passage. Do not forget, in the days of the USSR there were no such open borders for foreigners, there were no Chechen, Arab, Slavic terrorists, space and electronic intelligence did not develop foolishness. bully
        1. mahor
          mahor 22 January 2016 22: 31 New
          0
          Quote: da Vinci
          Unmasking signs: a special train may have some increased radioactive background; there will be a powerful locomotive for only 8-10 cars, among which there will be 6-7 refrigerators and 1-2 passenger cars (otherwise how to hide the accompanying ones, if it is even more suspicious in the "refrigerators"); most likely there will be a modified chassis; the presence of reinforced army guards; special corridor for passage. Do not forget, in the days of the USSR there were no such open borders for foreigners, there were no Chechen, Arab, Slavic terrorists, space and electronic intelligence did not develop foolishness. bully



          Refrigerators in Russia have not been produced since 2007 ... It will be an ordinary freight car .. hi
    3. mahor
      mahor 22 January 2016 22: 30 New
      0
      Quote: da Vinci
      I think that to make such a complex is a solvable task. In addition, you can make a dozen false trains that carry potatoes in similar wagons, but can greatly confuse the cards for a "likely friend" wink.



      This has been done before ...
  12. hghg
    hghg 12 December 2015 13: 55 New
    0
    I did not learn anything new in the article. The idea of ​​the complex itself is not bad, try to find one.
  13. Zloy-zyb
    Zloy-zyb 12 December 2015 14: 45 New
    +1
    The article is old. Thanks to the comments for the new entry deadlines. And we don’t forget about CLUB-K, which can now go on container ships along THEIR coast, which is still a surprise.
  14. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 12 December 2015 15: 33 New
    +2
    BZHRK ... a great addition to the existing means of nuclear deterrence of a potential enemy ... another argument for the independence of the country ...
  15. Balagan
    Balagan 12 December 2015 15: 58 New
    0
    If only they brought everything to mind!
  16. Olezhek
    Olezhek 12 December 2015 17: 14 New
    +1
    Meanwhile - the perfect option. The rocket carrier in the air is good, but it is noticeable and constantly he can not hang out there. Submarine submariner - just cool!
    But no one knows how quickly Americans can track them. And how quickly they can destroy if anything happens.
    Mobile Topol certainly travels in its territory, but it is monitored in principle.
    But with the trains - everything is just perfect here - catch them along the railways of the country ...
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 4 January 2016 14: 56 New
      0
      Easy. Track repair work on tracks. If the train passed, and the repairmen followed ... It happens of course that the train was sent with the sliders. Then follow the telegrams of the GCD. Were or not. Punished or not.
  17. andrewkor
    andrewkor 12 December 2015 19: 15 New
    0
    as well as the “cuckoo" of White Swans cut for bucks.
  18. Lumumba
    Lumumba 12 December 2015 20: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: andrewkor
    as well as the “cuckoo" of White Swans cut for bucks.


    I am sure that not only they cut, but also carried out an engineering analysis at least. And then many secrets were left to “sworn friends”.
    1. mahor
      mahor 22 January 2016 22: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Lumumba
      Quote: andrewkor
      as well as the “cuckoo" of White Swans cut for bucks.


      I am sure that not only they cut, but also carried out an engineering analysis at least. And then many secrets were left to “sworn friends”.



      And how much has flowed to China!
  19. Redfox3k
    Redfox3k 12 December 2015 23: 34 New
    0
    The topic of BZHRK, I think, is correct. The main advantage of the BZHRK is its secrecy, the opportunity to get lost in the vast expanses of the country, since there is an extensive railway network. The emphasis on the BZHRK, I believe, was not accidental: our sworn "partners" are testing and putting into service the marine missile defense systems (SM-3, Aegis) in order to level our marine nuclear component, and if we analyze recent tests involving the interception of ballistic missiles, which was dropped from the plane with the subsequent launch of the rocket in the air, the naval missile defense of the Americans is sharpened to intercept our missiles in the upper stage, the most vulnerable to the rocket. Moreover, in conjunction with the SOSUS system, this is a serious threat to our missile potential in the ocean.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 4 January 2016 14: 47 New
      0
      The main plus is to catch 50-100 km. Stealth and getting lost is at the level of an ordinary passenger. DSC, chipboard, masters of the path instantly decrypt what kind of composition passed.
  20. Andrey77
    Andrey77 4 January 2016 14: 40 New
    0
    The main unmasking sign is not carts at all, but a path “broken into the trash”. The designers failed to withstand the load on the axis. It is dangerous in the first place to let the MPS go along the usual routes (for other trains), and in the second place it is expensive (repair of the track’s upper structure). On BAM you can start up, the path allows. But there’s nowhere to get lost.
    1. mahor
      mahor 22 January 2016 22: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Andrey77
      The main unmasking sign is not carts at all, but a path “broken into the trash”. The designers failed to withstand the load on the axis. It is dangerous in the first place to let the MPS go along the usual routes (for other trains), and in the second place it is expensive (repair of the track’s upper structure). On BAM you can start up, the path allows. But there’s nowhere to get lost.



      MIT makes rockets in the range of 37-43 tons, plus TPK. Must get into a regular car ... good