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Not exactly military news.Dear readers "IN"! I want to share my thoughts about what I saw on REN-TV on the evening air.


News not from the category of popular. Not about Syria, not about Ukraine, not about how our defense industry launched another sample of super-weapons. At first glance, even the fact that the “VO” regulars are interested has nothing to do with it.

However, in order. The plot of the Nizhny Novgorod hospital. Nizhny Novgorod is a city with a population of one million, there are many defense enterprises there. TV presenter broadcasts: “Children's departments in hospitals in several Russian regions have been closed. Now children and adults lie in the same wards, despite their diseases. Doctors call change compaction and optimization. In the Navashinsky central regional hospital, young mothers are afraid to go into the hospital corridor because of possible re-infection. The head physician of the clinic justifies that such measures are necessary in connection with the austerity regime. Utility payments are growing, and to keep large areas unprofitable, and wards in and the treatment space has been optimized. Doctors do not hide the fact that they are waiting for new changes. The staff at the Navashinskaya hospital have already warned that wages will be cut again in order to save. But they advised those who disagree to get ready for dismissal. "

Source: http://ren.tv/novosti/2015-12-08/v-rossiyskih-bolnicah-radi-ekonomii-detey-pereselili-k-bolnym-starikam-video, © REN.TV.

Next footage from the bottom. A good-looking (like most of the heads of institutions in Russia), the head of the office without much tragedy and frustration, routinely reported about the next “optimization” of her institution (quite possibly, one of those who advised to prepare for dismissal dissent). Well, there is not enough money for the children, what can we do about it ... And then about housing and utilities tariffs: the tariffs have grown, they say. You have to save on everything. (Children - is that the same thing?).

And here the same feeling of resentment for the country and aversion to the bureaucracy, which looks at the President’s messages to the Federal Assembly, but does everything in its own way, again appears. I will make a reservation right away: I personally support the foreign policy of the country, but with such assistants of domestic issues no state leader can be calm behind the rear.

Inhumane plant? Yes, yes, not 1937 year. Do not imprison everyone, only for criminal offenses. But incompetent optimizers drive in three necks from posts. Do not put experiments on children. These are future soldiers, defenders of the state that is now rising from its knees. A lot of unreasoned and unpopular measures (starting from the Unified State Examination, ending with Plato) begin to stir up society in difficult times. The housing sector in general, in my opinion, should be the monopoly of the state. Because 100% of the country's population depends on it. And the military. And those who feed them, arms, treats. And, of course, families and children.

It seems that half of those who should help the president in resolving such issues are paid by the US State Department. This, of course, emotions. Most likely, the parochial thief took away communal funds, and the officials didn’t have enough intelligence for anything other than optimization. However, if not the FSB, then law enforcement officers have more reason to check for something.

Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! Stop the thieves, remove the dumbassies from the high-ranking armchairs! And our Russian people will turn such mountains that no one else can do it. I want to believe that not immediately, but it turns out!
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    1. Consul-t
      Consul-t 10 December 2015 09: 04 New
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      I want to read the opinion of our esteemed Alexander Romanov on this subject.
      Alexander, make people happy with your statement, please.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 10 December 2015 09: 11 New
        18
        "Children's departments in hospitals in several Russian regions have closed. Now children and adults are in the same wards, despite the diseases. Doctors call changes compaction and optimization

        The next step in this "optimization" is to wait for the transfer of the maternity ward to therapy?
        1. Very old
          Very old 10 December 2015 09: 32 New
          25
          ALEXANDER, and you didn’t have to pull your teeth?
          1. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 10 December 2015 09: 57 New
            +4
            with such assistants to internal affairs, no head of state can be calm about the rear.

            About business officials
            1. Constructor1
              Constructor1 10 December 2015 10: 07 New
              10
              Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! Stop the thieves, remove the dumbassies from the high-ranking armchairs! And our Russian people will turn such mountains that no one else can do it. I want to believe that not immediately, but it turns out!


              There is an external threat to Russia, all media are directed to news about it ..
              And look how the “enemy” internalized immediately, with optimizations, reductions, and rising prices for EVERYTHING !!! In a hurry to grab a piece of the state budget, while the hands of the GDP are occupied. am
              1. Hon
                Hon 10 December 2015 10: 34 New
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                Quote: Designer 1
                they are hoping to grab a piece of the state budget while the hands of the GDP are occupied.

                and what are they doing with him? you might think before it somehow cared. it’s just that oil used to be expensive, and there was enough money to cut it and leave something for healthcare. now there is less money, only enough to cut it, health care, alas, is not enough
                1. anip
                  anip 10 December 2015 11: 36 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Hon
                  and what are they doing with him?

                  Yes, you see, too, rowing under him with both hands. Slave on the galleys ...
                  1. Cap-3 USSR
                    Cap-3 USSR 10 December 2015 14: 08 New
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                    In our country, Putin is not to blame.
                    When will we learn to think with our head.
                    Here is another question that is being procrastinated. Plato system. The media already at all angles are shouting about the rise in price of products, milk at 1,5 p. etc. Range finders carry an average of 10t. Even for 1000km. Poaton tariff is 1,53 rubles. per km. That means 10 tons of cargo. 1530 rubles. That is, 1 kg. falls 0,153r. at 5t. - 0,306r. And why should products go up by as much as they shout in the media?
                    Is Putin again to blame? Or did someone decide to raise it under the guise of prices?
                    Maybe someone doesn’t agree that the trucks basically hammer the roads?
                    Or truckers do not know what taxes they pay when traveling in Europe?
                    1. Ros 56
                      Ros 56 10 December 2015 16: 14 New
                      10
                      I want to add, because instead of 10 tons, they load 20 tons and thereby kill the road.
                      1. asiat_61
                        asiat_61 10 December 2015 23: 48 New
                        +9
                        And why the boblo for the son of Rotenberg?
                      2. dog1965
                        dog1965 11 December 2015 12: 33 New
                        0
                        Not all, only 5,3 billion rubles
                      3. BLACK-SHARK-64
                        BLACK-SHARK-64 11 December 2015 14: 55 New
                        0
                        AND WHY?????? am
                  2. Andrey11
                    Andrey11 10 December 2015 18: 14 New
                    +4
                    I wonder how to talk about the successes of the country, because this is the merit of GDP, and how to talk about the problem, so the GDP has nothing to do with it.
                  3. Andrey11
                    Andrey11 10 December 2015 18: 14 New
                    +1
                    I wonder how to talk about the successes of the country, because this is the merit of GDP, and how to talk about the problem, so the GDP has nothing to do with it.
                  4. Sergey Guriev
                    Sergey Guriev 10 December 2015 22: 25 New
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                    Putin is to blame for the fact that he gave up the domestic policy of the state to various crooks. It is clear that he himself will not be able to solve these issues, but the failed personnel policy in the internal issue is entirely his merit. So the majority of optimizers and cutters are on his conscience. Tough measures must be decided; one cannot forgive everything and "slip between tricks" all the time.
                    1. asiat_61
                      asiat_61 10 December 2015 23: 50 New
                      +1
                      Well, how not to remember: .. frames, decide everything ..
                    2. dog1965
                      dog1965 11 December 2015 12: 42 New
                      +7
                      This is not a “failed personnel policy”, it is the result of the “we don’t surrender our own” rule. You can have one more expression for this. "For the rest, the rest is the Law." That's why Serdyukov in Rstech and Vasilyeva on parole came out. Question - where is Kvachkov now? Even Hodor is yapping from behind the hill, although for his exploits "he should have felled the forest" for life.
                      But if he accepted the Singapore rule “You are my friend, but I’ll imprison you for a long time”, then people who care for Russia and not for their wallet would have been at significant posts for a long time.
                      Now that the whole West has already taken up arms against Russia, it’s time to tackle the “Augean stables” in our economy. I don’t think that the Ruska Land was so "impoverished" that there were no literate people left. Otherwise, the next 17th year awaits us.
                    3. BLACK-SHARK-64
                      BLACK-SHARK-64 11 December 2015 15: 00 New
                      +1
                      You can slip so that 1917 will happen again ..... And this is short-sighted and stupid .... The people are very patient, but if they get off the brakes ... it will be full .... am
                    4. SIvan
                      SIvan 12 December 2015 19: 51 New
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                      Quote: Dog1965
                      Even Hodor is yapping from behind the hill, although for his exploits "he should have felled the forest" for life.

                      Just yesterday he was charged with murder. Before that, there were only performers.
                      http://sledcom.ru/news/item/998485/
                  5. BLACK-SHARK-64
                    BLACK-SHARK-64 11 December 2015 14: 58 New
                    0
                    You can slip so that 1917 will happen again ..... And this is short-sighted and stupid .... The people are very patient, but if they get off the brakes ... it will be full .... am
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 10 December 2015 15: 18 New
                +4
                Quote: anip
                and also sees rowing under him with both hands

                and his oars are like a bucket from a mining excavator ...
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            2. Burmistr
              Burmistr 10 December 2015 12: 46 New
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              The liberal government must be removed for a long time. For good - to Solovki, for bad - to the wall. Now the government is not much different from the Yeltsin period - the same people. What can be expected from these scum?

              A lot of things need to be changed in the state, and first of all, the constitution. The whole form of the state needs to be changed into a constructive one, and this is a disgrace that the "experts" pin us add. We need to remove and forget it like a bad dream
              1. syndicalist
                syndicalist 10 December 2015 12: 52 New
                +3
                With two hands FOR! But for another reason. The remnants of the liberals in power extend its agony. Of course, there are unique ones like Comrade Sukhov who prefer to suffer. But if the end is one and soon, then why the hell? Let it be better to immediately see
                1. Andrey11
                  Andrey11 10 December 2015 18: 12 New
                  +3
                  Oh, do not lie - in the country for 15 years, the ruling GDP with its own vertical of power. It’s just not beneficial for you to admit that the sovereigns are also robbing the country like the liberals before them.
                2. Andrey11
                  Andrey11 10 December 2015 18: 12 New
                  +2
                  Oh, do not lie - in the country for 15 years, the ruling GDP with its own vertical of power. It’s just not beneficial for you to admit that the sovereigns are also robbing the country like the liberals before them.
              2. Hon
                Hon 10 December 2015 13: 14 New
                +3
                Quote: Burmeister
                , and this is the disgrace that the “experts” pin us.

                Well, yes, they are to blame, but Rafik is not to blame
            3. BLACK-SHARK-64
              BLACK-SHARK-64 11 December 2015 14: 53 New
              +1
              BORN AND FUNNY ,,,,, BUT THE TRUTH !!!! am
          2. maiman61
            maiman61 10 December 2015 10: 57 New
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            Ha ha ha Naive fools! The king is good, and the boyars are bad! Ha ha ha
            1. Hon
              Hon 10 December 2015 11: 27 New
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              Quote: maiman61
              Ha ha ha Naive fools! The king is good, and the boyars are bad! Ha ha ha

              Pavel Grudinin (director of a state farm near Moscow) on Putin’s message: “Well, guys, let's fight corruption. And at this moment they show people who need to be planted for sure”
              during the broadcast of Putin’s last message to the Federal Assembly on December 3, in words of the president about the need to fight corruption, the broadcast director displayed the face of the Russian prosecutor general Yury Chaika
              1. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ 10 December 2015 11: 42 New
                +3
                Quote: Hon
                Pavel Grudinin (director of a state farm near Moscow) on Putin’s message: “Well, guys, let's fight corruption. And at this moment they show people who need to be planted for sure”
                during the broadcast of Putin’s last message to the Federal Assembly on December 3, in words of the president about the need to fight corruption, the broadcast director displayed the face of the Russian prosecutor general Yury Chaika

                It is absolutely clear that yes, it is necessary to fight corruption. At the same time - corruption, has always been and will be (it does not matter communism or capitalism). It is in the west (even in China), the only question is its scale.

                And to say that all the officials of the Military Military Service .... are also not correct, there are those who do their work in good faith. This is how to say that all metna kazly. Also not true, not all cops are corrupt. There are only those who compromise most. It’s not necessary to go far, here Islam is a religion. There is a problem with the igil - but we are not saying that all Muslims are now, a priori, terrorists.

                As for the various personalities such as Seagull, Serdyukov, etc. Always, under any authority, there are especially close to the pope of the emperor. Always is. P.E. this must be understood - that there is a caste of untouchables.
                1. Hon
                  Hon 10 December 2015 12: 33 New
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                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  It is absolutely clear that yes, it is necessary to fight corruption. At the same time - corruption, has always been and will be (it does not matter communism or capitalism). It is in the west (even in China), the only question is its scale.

                  And to say that all the officials of the Military Military Service .... are also not correct, there are those who do their work in good faith. This is how to say that all metna kazly. Also not true, not all cops are corrupt. There are only those who compromise most. It’s not necessary to go far, here Islam is a religion. There is a problem with the igil - but we are not saying that all Muslims are now, a priori, terrorists.

                  As for the various personalities such as Seagull, Serdyukov, etc. Always, under any authority, there are especially close to the pope of the emperor. Always is. P.E. this must be understood - that there is a caste of untouchables.

                  Well, corruption is good, the phenomenon is ineradicable, but this is not a reason to close all eyes. here we have Serdyukov, why is he now being kept at a budgetary feeding trough? What value is Chubais? it’s not necessary to prosecute, well, at least you can remove from the budget? we have a spokesman for the president open corruption! interesting is Xi Jinping’s spokeswoman also playing a million dollar wedding? Putin's hands do not reach his own spokesman? what is it?
                2. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 10 December 2015 15: 29 New
                  +3
                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  At the same time - corruption, has always been and will be (it does not matter communism or capitalism).

                  Was there corruption under Stalin? how do you think?
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 10 December 2015 21: 24 New
                    +1
                    The problem is that not a single person is eternal.
                  2. _Vladislav_
                    _Vladislav_ 10 December 2015 23: 36 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    Was there corruption under Stalin? how do you think?

                    And under Ivan the Terrible - was there corruption?

                    I will answer for you, was.
                    To imagine about one hundred means this unpleasant term, I will give a definition.
                    Corruption is the use by an official of his authority and the rights entrusted to him, as well as the authority, opportunities, connections associated with this official status, for personal gain, contrary to law and moral principles.

                    This alone, no prosecutor needs to ask questions. It is clear that under Stalin (respected by me) there was corruption. Only for this they shot. In China, they also shoot for it, but nevertheless there is corruption.
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          3. anip
            anip 10 December 2015 11: 35 New
            +5
            Quote: Designer 1
            And look how the “enemy” internalized immediately, with optimizations, reductions, and rising prices for EVERYTHING !!! In a hurry to grab a piece of the state budget, while the hands of the GDP are occupied.

            You might think that until 2014 there was no price increase, no “optimizations”, or theft of everything in a row.
          4. egggo
            egggo 10 December 2015 12: 12 New
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            GDP from the very beginning is busy with the wrong thing.
            Maybe, well, this football championship, maybe it's better to spend money on hospitals. Although, the "wallet competition" is tempting and the main wallet of the country really wants to participate.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 10 December 2015 15: 38 New
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              Quote: egggo
              GDP from the very beginning is busy with the wrong thing.

              What is he doing at all?
              Before fooling around on the international stage, people inside the country should be given a decent life, not Potemkin villages for cuts and PR.
              To provide people with work, affordable housing, old-age pensions, education for children, not to take the whole world for another operation for the sick, to pay embezzlements to fulfill their promises in 15 years.
              And only then broadcast to the whole world how cool we are.
              And then we ourselves are sitting naked, but we will teach everyone how to live and PR every day and every hour.
              already even listen to the morbid.
              1. BLACK-SHARK-64
                BLACK-SHARK-64 11 December 2015 15: 05 New
                +1
                Two hundred times tired .... They ride around the ears like a tractor across a field .... am
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          6. Aleksander
            Aleksander 10 December 2015 12: 20 New
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            Quote: Designer 1
            Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! Transplant thieves, remove dumbasses from bosses!


            Once, once upon a time, yesterday, he PERSONALLY gave the command to restore the free supply of coal to Ruin, this is touching concern, this is efficiency. And just because the Ukrainians supplied electricity to the Firtash Titan plant in Crimea and the Kherson region (powered through the Crimea).
          7. oblako
            oblako 10 December 2015 13: 03 New
            +7
            The internal enemy is capitalism, or as they say "market economy." The conflict of interests of entrepreneurs of all ranks, wage earners and the state is eternal and insoluble in the existing format of relations. It can be better, it can be worse depending on the characteristics of each country and the evolution of the so-called "democracy" - but the main conclusion is one. The format is terminally ill and will have to be changed ...
          8. I am Russian
            I am Russian 10 December 2015 18: 29 New
            +5
            Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! Stop the thieves, remove the dumbassies from the high-ranking armchairs! And our Russian people will turn such mountains that no one else can do it. I want to believe that not immediately, but it turns out!


            An interesting request. Putin V.V. - I respect.

            There are a few comments.
            Why is the people, or how, in the name of a nation’s pinboard (pah !!) does nothing, but only aching and aching ?? More than once already I spread the direct speech of the GDP and my considerations on VO, but the “people” (or maybe a person ???) can’t understand. Putin’s powers are limited by the Constitution (which was written in the State Department of the SGA). The Central Bank is owned by the Fed. Ambassadors John Tefft (who is a PR specialist and suddenly an ambassador ??), all kinds of Chubais, Grefs, and the list are very long.
            Look at the dill. After all, it shows us what will happen to the Russians, if we do not start thinking with our heads. So comrades, unite before it’s too late, but only wisely.
            1. I am Russian
              I am Russian 10 December 2015 18: 33 New
              +6
              This is what our "effective managers" think and do

              Gref let it slip !!
              1. I am human
                I am human 11 December 2015 23: 08 New
                0
                Liberast four-wheel drive Gref
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          9. bastard
            bastard 10 December 2015 20: 48 New
            +3
            Quote: Designer 1
            In a hurry to grab a piece of the state budget, while the hands of the GDP are occupied.

            Watch your hands (GDP)! When, finally, it reaches the electorate that Tupine Radiant and a member of this gang? That he does not rule the country, but through him. Tell me, please, are there many Sun-like decrees implemented? Here Deripasok, Abramovich and other Prokhorovs should be suspended by the testes, then we will find out a lot of interesting things. But on a sacrificial animal, fucking hope. They will give it to us to eat, if that. KGB soldier, y-p-r-s-t.
      2. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 10 December 2015 11: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: Old very
        ALEXANDER, and you didn’t have to pull your teeth?

        Valentin, you will be surprised, but before going to the "cog", my ass, for some reason, also finds no place for itself. laughing
      3. Scoun
        Scoun 10 December 2015 12: 14 New
        +7
        Quote: Old very
        ALEXANDER, and you didn’t have to pull your teeth?

        There is an old joke))

        World Congress of Doctors. On the podium, an American doctor:
        - We learned to operate and treat the heart through a small puncture in the hand!
        Applause, screams ...
        On the podium, a Japanese doctor:
        - We learned how to treat gastritis / ulcer through drops in the ear!
        Screams, applause
        On the podium, a Russian doctor:
        - And we learned to remove the TEETH!
        In the hall of perplexity, noise. Russian continues:
        - Through the ass.


    2. Baloo
      Baloo 10 December 2015 10: 05 New
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      Colleagues, being a leader in medicine is dog work, you will not wish the enemy if everything is done according to the law.
      Although there are chief physicians who fit very well into the system. What to do? I dont know. I know for sure that in the mid-80s the Soviet system was recognized by WHO as the best in the world and recommended for implementation. What was missing then? Consumables, implants, medical equipment, then there were no tomographs and ultrasound. But they flew into space with ECGs the size of a book completely made in the USSR. Tomographs? When there were several dozen of them all over the country, several pieces of our own design were made in Kazan, and they are still working. They are inferior in quality to imported ones, but over so many years with state support they could have become like our missiles and fighters.
      Medicines? The student was an old professor professor. The Department of Pharmacology annually sold at auctions abroad licenses for drugs developed in Kazan.
      I am for domestic medical equipment in full. The defense industry can very well cope with this by creating an appropriate agency.
      I am for domestic pharmaceuticals. not many unique drugs that cannot be replaced.
      The value of exercise therapy for treatment and prevention is underestimated
      osteoporosis and osteoarthrosis.
      Schools and kindergartens need to be built with pools.
      Swimming can cure a lot without pills while the child is growing, I know that for sure. Be very surprised, but if there are no contraindications, you need to start learning to swim in infancy. There are a few weeks when possible.
      And in general, you scold medicine, but what do you offer?
      1. 8 inches
        8 inches 10 December 2015 10: 14 New
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        they do not scold medicine ... but bureaucrats from medicine.
        1. Sashka
          Sashka 10 December 2015 10: 59 New
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          This is not a matter of medicine, but of officials who are not sitting in their place. Here we have, in the largest village, with the knowledge of the administration, the office (LLC), which is engaged in the reception and disposal of household waste from the population (which, according to well-founded rumors of Zaregin for the son-in-law of the chief judge, and actually belonging to her), she simply took it and stupidly removed it garbage containers. Now the population is invited to receive 300 6-liter packages with the LLC logo for 20 rubles a month, and at certain times (in one district it can be 6 in the morning, in another 11 in the evening) to go out in any weather for several quarters to take out the garbage. Out of packages - buy new ones for 12r. apiece, because in other packages garbage is not accepted. So, the population is on the ears. They showed on TV regional value, even on Russia-Kuban. The point is ZERO. Moreover, they removed containers even from high-rise buildings, which is a violation of SanPin !!! And recently, on the outskirts of the village, the municipal unitary enterprise organized a landfill, which periodically ignited. The whole village was wrapped in smog. People wrote in the administration (local, regional), and the President, etc. Everything was redirected to the local administration. As a result, after half a year, when they showed on TV, a bulldozer arrived, buried everything in the ground (work was going on for two weeks), and then a response came from the local admin panel that they checked your complaint, went to the object, found nothing , even a photo attached with a plowed field. Those. they organized a check only after they covered the tracks.
          Well, the result of all this is that the village turned into a landfill, they began to throw garbage to where the containers were, and just along the side of the road ...
          1. Obstructia
            Obstructia 10 December 2015 11: 30 New
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            Udmurtia. The situation is similar. Only with us these packages (120l) are sold somewhere at 60P_ pieces. Allegedly, something at the administration did not merge with the owners of the landfill, and therefore the waste was transferred to private hands. Finish.
            1. Sashka
              Sashka 10 December 2015 14: 22 New
              +6
              Here ... This circuit works everywhere. Only we have the trick that the landfill belongs to these private hands !!! Access to this dump to individuals is now closed! Those. You won’t take out the trash yourself. MONOPOLY!!! It remains only to conclude an agreement with them (and they, in violation of the law, threatened that they would be fined (!!!) for the residents of the village for 2500r for lack thereof), or to spoil on the street !!!
          2. Valentine
            Valentine 10 December 2015 14: 18 New
            -8
            Now, after this article, VO has turned into a garbage dump and a reason for discord. We also need to “squeeze” it into Murzilka so that the kids can get into a fight there .... We know the external enemy, now
            , urgently, you need to find the inner one, and “bother” it in the publication “Obstetrics and Genicology" .... Yes, there is a problem, but do you even think WHAT exactly, and WHERE you write exactly.
            with pediculosis contact the "Economic Newspaper", or the magazine "Homestead Management". And, besides, this topic has long been heard, and it will not go unnoticed, the times are not the same, not Borki-drunk. Yes, and it's time for us to think, why do these painful problems bring in wherever they fall, why do they inflate the people, why do they specially set us up against ourselves, heat up and increase the degree of discontent? Do you want a repetition of the Ukrainian bloody scenario, which there began exactly with the same "face-offs" about "popular" discontent, that all power-thieves, that "gang-get", "ganba", "m ... fucking dumb" and so on ... “Bolotnye” is just waiting for such a scenario, and there the USA will catch up with cookies, and we will have our Maidan, our burning tires, our burning Khreshchatyk on Arbat, like everyone else’s .
            Think, men, analyze, we must not allow us to repeat the "Maidan" hell.
            1. goblin xnumx
              goblin xnumx 10 December 2015 22: 03 New
              +8
              it’s already good to frighten me, I got a fairy tale about a white bull-calf- tell me, who else doesn’t like power will go to paradise, is it familiar?
              1. Valentine
                Valentine 11 December 2015 00: 01 New
                -2
                Quote: Leshy74
                it’s already good to frighten me, I got a fairy tale about a white bull-calf- tell me, who else doesn’t like power will go to paradise, is it familiar?

                Quote: Leshy74
                it’s already good to frighten me, I got a fairy tale about a white bull-calf- tell me, who else doesn’t like power will go to paradise, is it familiar?

                Quote: Leshy74
                it’s already good to frighten me, I got a fairy tale about a white bull-calf- tell me, who else doesn’t like power will go to paradise, is it familiar?

                And you would have at least a week in this "paradise" -to Donetsk, to Gorlovka, or Debaltseve, maybe then they would understand something.
            2. asiat_61
              asiat_61 11 December 2015 00: 02 New
              +3
              If you don’t clean the hut, it will turn into a barn.
              1. bastard
                bastard 11 December 2015 12: 17 New
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                Quote: asiat_61
                If you don’t clean the hut, it will turn into a barn.

                You probably wanted to say - in the crib.
                Ovin is an outbuilding in which sheaves were dried before threshing.
                Sorry. hi
            3. bastard
              bastard 11 December 2015 11: 00 New
              0
              Quote: Valentine
              Now, after this article, VO has turned into a garbage dump and a reason for discord. It’s also necessary to “squeeze” it into Murzilka so that the kids could get into a fight there ...

              Have you moved to the USA? Well, I respect your choice. Live there and be happy. Food in the North American States in bulk. For now.
              Quote: Valentine
              We know the external enemy, now
              , urgently, it is necessary to find both the internal and “pesozhat” him in the publication “Obstetrics and Genicology".

              Do you, as a US citizen, know an external enemy? Wow! What is it, these bastards who encroached on democracy?
              Of course, this, including us, the "Russians", so to speak, are completely wild people. We urgently need to be civilized, and whoever disagrees, that. . . Well, in general. . . Have you heard of the Indians? Yeah, there you go. About Yugoslavia, Libya, Egypt, and even with fifty, at least, countries are modestly silent. Obstetrics and Gynecology is an interesting publication, I guess. But we can make fun at Sportloto.

              Quote: Valentine
              Why
              with pediculosis contact the "Economic Newspaper", or the magazine "Homestead".

              Pediculosis (lice) mostly came to us during invasions from the civilized west, as well as sexually transmitted diseases. Together with perversions and other kind of pederasts. What to do, these are the values ​​of Western democracy. You can yap and do whatever you like, but here's a pediculosis and syphilis in the load, so that life does not seem to be honey.
              Quote: Valentine
              .Yes, and it’s time for us to think about why these painful problems are being brought in wherever we go, why the people are being stirred up, why are they specially setting us up against ourselves, warming up and increasing the degree of discontent?

              Think about it, you have to finally do this. Do you know what happens? There is a kind of embarrassed fryer, dandy, all cool, “Ronson”, “Rolex”, “Marlboro”, “Gabano” and, suddenly, a ragged box jumps out of the gateway and hits it with a dime. And that’s it! This is not about Russia. There are enough others. States are shitting around the world.
              Laertesque described such a scenario, have you heard of this? Here, please, only there obscenities:

              http://www.lyricshare.net/ru/aleksandr-layertskiy/smert-kommunista.html

              Okay, I’ll go take a break, tired of the advice of those who dumped "there."
              1. Valentine
                Valentine 11 December 2015 13: 02 New
                +3
                Quote: villain
                Okay, I’ll go take a break, tired of the advice of those who dumped "there."

                Quote: villain
                Okay, I’ll go take a break, tired of the advice of those who dumped "there."

                Why is this your speech? I live in Russia, I recently came from Gorlovka, where I spent the last year and a half under shelling and bombing,
                seen and experienced such that God forbid you
                feel and see. Go, relax, can help with other eyes to see the world and the war, and how it all begins. All the best to you.
      2. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 10 December 2015 10: 23 New
        +3
        ...... there are not many unique drugs that cannot be replaced ....

        .... A lot .... There is no quality .... Side as the original, and medicinal are doubtful .... Tested on ourselves .... Unfortunately, we can not do everything with their quality .... hi
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 10 December 2015 16: 07 New
          +6
          Quote: aleks 62 next
          A lot .... There is no quality .... Side as the original, but medicinal are doubtful .... Tested by ourselves .... Unfortunately, we can not do everything with their quality ....

          Because our own farm in 25 years was completely destroyed, and supposedly our drugs are ours only nominally, because. ALL ACTIVE SUBSTANTIES (these are derivatives of what medicines are made of) the RF purchases! purchases in China or India, since European is expensive .., hence the big difference in efficiency.
          And in fact, our farm enterprises are only packaged.
          Belarus is doing much better, but their preparations, even within the framework of a single state, will not pass the Russian examination in any way. Not beneficial to our managers, kickbacks are not practiced there.
          who is interested in the source:
          http://www.diod.ru/pages/presscentr_about_08
      3. Azitral
        Azitral 10 December 2015 11: 10 New
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        The healthcare organizer MUST be a villain and cannot help but be. Otherwise, he will be fired right the day after tomorrow.
        He must write false reports, because otherwise he will be appointed as the last.
        He must reap the salary of the employees without pity, because otherwise he will appoint the one who will reap in his place.
        He must fire those who blather, because in our country it is impossible to speak, and the one who does not crush is a bad leader.
        At the same time, he should not be interested in the quality of the expelled specialists, because no one is interested in the deplorable results of the defeat of the departments: everything will be fine in the report, and the top management will cover the transformation of the hospital into the dead, because it is also lying. They lie all, including the verifiers, because no one is interested in the true picture. Including, apparently, the president - in order not to be upset, doing great things. That (besides everything), with the right attitude, could become a branch of industry, which is not inferior to oil in terms of profitability and influence, is being ruined. Starting with the great organizer Zurabov - he was equally useful ambassadors in the country 404 - every year it gets worse and worse. In our region, the defeat of state. medicine has already happened, in general, now stripping is underway, somewhere in the middle. It is unlikely that our medical guidelines are truly sold. They are simply praised for cutting costs with supposedly preserved efficiency. They are simply lying, indifferent, mediocre cowards.
    3. egggo
      egggo 10 December 2015 12: 08 New
      0
      Like funny?
      Talk to those who treat, as they can, then, maybe, they don’t want to throw stones.
  2. Teberii
    Teberii 10 December 2015 09: 11 New
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    Saving should be economical. Apparently, the officials of Nizhny Novgorod think so. Then stop. Primary school students squeeze everyone together and teach everything to tidy up, high school students also drive into one office. How much time can be saved for unnecessary teachers to reduce optimization.
    1. go21zd45few
      go21zd45few 10 December 2015 10: 18 New
      +7
      The officials are the same everywhere, the people they don’t care about are theft and corruption, and those who are obliged to comply with the law and order themselves participate in the roofing and lawlessness of the bureaucracy. Officials remember the people only during the election campaign promising paradise.
      What local officials are doing now is nothing but sabotage. All this is done deliberately to excite the masses and overthrow President V.V. Putin. Therefore, it is urgent to change the government and restore order in law enforcement agencies.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 10 December 2015 10: 26 New
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        I thought about the same, but not yet formulated. Under the pretext of reforms --- theft, bullying, perversions. Under Joseph Vissarionovich they would be called pests. And note --- about Moscow, St. Petersburg --- I did not hear. There are no complaints, everything is civil. And away from the center --- sabot .
  3. vgorlekost
    vgorlekost 10 December 2015 09: 25 New
    +6
    Quote: Consul-t
    I want to read the opinion of our esteemed Alexander Romanov on this subject.

    Just wrote him in a personal invitation. He is online.
  4. Askin
    Askin 10 December 2015 09: 27 New
    +6
    Quote: Consul-t
    I want to read the opinion of our esteemed Alexander Romanov on this subject.

    On this thread you can’t PURK!
  5. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 10: 09 New
    10
    Quote: Consul-t
    Alexander, make people happy with your statement, please

    Yes, it’s easy, we don’t have such garbage in the region. Probably enough money for children, or maybe officials are smarter than ours.
    In any case, why is there an appeal to Putin, there is no prosecutor’s office, there is no IC. Putin should you decide everything in all regions in your manual mode?
    Leave the whole city on the street and money for children will find in 15 minutes. But the problem is that a maximum of 50 people will leave, the rest will moan in Sait.
    Although maybe Putin himself will turn on TV to the residents of N. Novgorod with an appeal to take him out to the street and show the local authorities what you are. I don’t know how to make you tear your asses away.
    And the author himself found time for an article for VO, but to write to the same procurator or to the presidential administration to which he addresses no.
    And so across the country hi
    1. vgorlekost
      vgorlekost 10 December 2015 10: 15 New
      11
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      but to write to the same procurator or to the presidential administration to which he addresses no.
      You would read what people write in ALL comments, before you get it done !!! Appealed repeatedly to Putin, and to the prosecutor's office, and to the courts, every three months !!! It only got worse !!! So, what is next???
      Are those those who make ends meet ate should they also seek (to no avail) from the authorities to fulfill their direct duties? Or is the vertical of power responsible, up to Putin ???
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 11: 16 New
        -2
        Quote: vgorlekost
        You would read what people write in ALL comments before you get it done !!! Appealed repeatedly and to Putin, and to the prosecutor's office, and to the courts, every three months !!

        Dai read
        1. anip
          anip 10 December 2015 11: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Dai read

          Well, I turned. They returned everything to their places. I won’t let you read.
          1. Yars
            Yars 10 December 2015 23: 50 New
            -2
            Quote: anip
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Dai read

            Well, I turned. They returned everything to their places. I won’t let you read.

            yes yes anip, it’s for you the liberal who we believed here!
            From the person who at every opportunity pours dirt and lies on the president and the authorities, the truth can not wait, for this you pay money!
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 11 December 2015 00: 02 New
              -1
              Quote: YARS
              From the person who at every opportunity pours dirt and lies on the president and the authorities, the truth can not wait, for this you pay money!

              oh-well, what’s the creator ?!
              Quote: YARS
              Yars

              Ahhhhh, this is again a citizen of an independent and independent trying to teach us how to live and what to do while in Germany ...
              Maybe you will give advice on the censor!
        2. GRAY
          GRAY 10 December 2015 12: 51 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Dai read

          I support. I also do not mind reading.
          I have a fad - I love proofs.
      2. GRAY
        GRAY 10 December 2015 13: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: vgorlekost
        You would read what people write in ALL comments before you get it done !!! Appealed repeatedly to Putin, and to the prosecutor's office, and to the courts, every three months !!! It only got worse !!!

        Again, "THIS EVERYONE KNOWS", "IN ALL COMMENTS" - change the training manual, your monotony tires.
        What kind of people do you keep for rams, but you yourself decided to play the role of a ram-leader?
        - What? Well, they write like that and I will write like that ... you have to be like everyone else ...

        Primitive.

        Your EPR exactly matches the EPR of the ovalbot.
        1. vgorlekost
          vgorlekost 10 December 2015 17: 07 New
          -3
          You lie- "everyone knows that," I didn’t write! What everyone knows, read ALL comments on the branch, then say something. But please, in fact !!! Uryakalok without you enough. Tired, go get some rest from here, anyway, nothing reasonable is heard from you. Even better, contact your brother for parabellum, and rest forever, your profile picture in general in the subject .....)))))
          Role your own-play yourself-do not translate the arrows. Look how zealously they rushed to defend the thief and grabbers ....., the crumbs pass from the table? Or primitively combed his tongue, leader?
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 10 December 2015 17: 41 New
            +1
            You don’t understand that you came to the gray epaulettes yourself. It smells of hate from you. That's all.
            1. vgorlekost
              vgorlekost 10 December 2015 17: 57 New
              +2
              Quote: avva2012
              You don’t understand that you came to the gray epaulettes yourself. It smells of hate from you. That's all.

              If I were chasing the "titles" - I would have had them, there are enough teachers and examples here .....)
              But something is wrong with your sense of smell ....) Not hatred, but perplexity is my main feeling when communicating here. Chesss word.
              What was your comment about? And why? Here .... again wondering ....
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 11 December 2015 04: 17 New
                0
                Perplexity - a mental state that combines emotional (e.g. surprise, fear) and cognitive (misunderstanding) components. In psychiatry, the term “perplexity / perplexity” refers to such perplexity, which is caused by an acute mental disorder and is accompanied by a painful misunderstanding of the patient’s situation and condition, which they perceive as unusual, having received a new unclear meaning. Here, about it was, my comment.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 11 December 2015 07: 44 New
                  +2
                  Thank you. Unexpectedly. Your words on my personal topic. It is such bewilderment that can accompany grief of loss. Yes, of course, this is a disease ---- loss, loss.
                  On the topic of the article. For some reason, my calls and my family --- get where they need to. Petersburg --- ?? Somehow, everything is fine with medicine and I often saw people who underwent complex operations for free and well-- -injuries, etc.Also, any diagnosis is easy for ordinary visitors. the farther from the center, the more theft and disorder?
                  You can add that it is somehow not good to insult others, especially in public. All adults.
                  1. avva2012
                    avva2012 11 December 2015 08: 49 New
                    +1
                    It not a diseaseloss. I sincerely sympathize with you. But, that feeling of hopelessness, resentment, “for what!”, It is not only and not so much behind the sternum. A prolonged state of stress leads to a chronic release of "stress" hormones. The body is rebuilt to life in the new conditions. Compensatory regulatory mechanisms begin to emerge. I will not go into details, but, more simply, grief passes to the body. It begins to collapse. And, if you have someone to live for, and in general, you understand that God gave us tests for a reason, I recommend that you turn to doctorto a psychotherapist. Moreover, you live in St. Petersburg. We need, course, certain medications, plus competent psychotherapy. It is in this combination, and not otherwise. I hope that, I, to you. at least somehow helped. May God give you strength.
                  2. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 12 December 2015 04: 50 New
                    0
                    Thank you. I think it’s too early to see a doctor. Too few days have passed. There are some kind of self-preservation mechanisms in nature. After all, the elders always leave earlier, and 87 years of a decent life is a good time. So it happened, now I know the place of grief for to the fallen Russian tourists. I think that somehow everything is normal for me, so your support came "from above." Perhaps - "Military Review" can replace doctors. Respectfully.
        2. GRAY
          GRAY 10 December 2015 17: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: vgorlekost
          Look how zealously they rushed to defend the thief and grabbers ....., the crumbs pass from the table? Or primitively combed his tongue, leader?

          Touched you for the living? laughing
          I expressed my opinion below - you can read. Although, it is unlikely that you need it.
          go away from here, anyway, nothing reasonable is heard from you.

          And the same to you.
  6. Mera joota
    Mera joota 10 December 2015 10: 43 New
    +6
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Although maybe Putin himself will turn on TV to the residents of N. Novgorod with an appeal to take him to the street and show the local authorities what you are.

    Hochma of the day!
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 10 December 2015 11: 08 New
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      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Although maybe Putin himself will turn on TV to the residents of N. Novgorod with an appeal to take him to the street and show the local authorities what you are.



      And what is it that in the village of Kushchevskaya no one came out at one time?

      Romanov stop the performance - you are not in the circus!
  7. anip
    anip 10 December 2015 11: 39 New
    +6
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Leave the whole city on the street and money for children will find in 15 minutes.

    That is, in order for something sensible to be done in the country, it is necessary to go out every time for 15 minutes? And what for then all this bunch of managers with a guarantor at the head?
  8. syndicalist
    syndicalist 10 December 2015 12: 47 New
    +2
    But these are already calls for extremism! And where is the State Department of cookies to collect for the whole city?
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 10 December 2015 17: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: syndicalist
      But these are already calls for extremism

      This is not a call for extremism, but people express their open-minded attitude to the policies of our government, very clearly point out the gross errors and dust in the eyes of our leaders from the lower categories to the Chairman of the government. At the same time, they point to ways to correct mistakes and ways to improve the living conditions of a person at work. This is not extremism, but healthy criticism.
      1. vgorlekost
        vgorlekost 10 December 2015 18: 15 New
        +2
        The syndicalist simply joked at Romanov’s comment, where he sends us to the street. )))
      2. asiat_61
        asiat_61 11 December 2015 00: 13 New
        +3
        These are not mistakes, this is direct wrecking. Things must be called by their proper names. And to verbally wise, there is a government, they receive money for this (somewhere).
  9. Askin
    Askin 10 December 2015 13: 16 New
    +8
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Leave the whole city on the street and money for children will find in 15 minutes.

    Article 20.2. Violation of the established procedure for organizing or holding a meeting, rally, demonstration, procession or picketing

    [RF Code of Administrative Offenses]
    6.1. Participation in an unauthorized meeting, rally, demonstration, procession or picket that entailed the creation of interference with the functioning of life support facilities, transport or social infrastructure, communications, the movement of pedestrians and (or) vehicles, or citizens' access to residential premises or objects of transport or social infrastructure, -

    shall entail the imposition of an administrative fine on citizens in the amount of from ten thousand to twenty thousand rubles, or compulsory work for up to one hundred hours, or administrative arrest for up to fifteen days; for officials - from fifty thousand to one hundred thousand rubles; for legal entities - from two hundred thousand to three hundred thousand rubles.
  10. go21zd45few
    go21zd45few 10 December 2015 13: 47 New
    +1
    I completely agree, stop hoping for a good king, it’s time for the people to defend their rights themselves, put forward specific economic demands, demand the resignation of stealing officials and those involved in corruption. Law enforcement agencies and the judiciary should brutally punish the bribe-takers in power, and not pass dubious sentences such as conditional sentences, only complete confiscation of property,
    and real sentences of up to life, depending on the degree of guilt. I agree with V.F. Zhirinovsky that in state. Duma should not be athletes, artists, writers; there should be professional economists and lawyers as well as financiers.
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  11. bastard
    bastard 10 December 2015 21: 19 New
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Leave the whole city on the street and money for children will find in 15 minutes. But the problem is that a maximum of 50 people will leave, the rest will moan in Sait.

    There, the chauffeurs went out. What are the authorities squealing? That's right, extremism. The opposition, you see, saddled the protest and wants to dump our beloved Mr. Crabe.
    Yu. Mukhin collected signatures for the referendum "For Responsible Power", where he proposed to evaluate the activities of deputies, ministers, the government and other officials after the expiration of their terms of office. Where is he now? True, arrested, back in the summer, they sew extremism.
    Yeah, not the 37th year today.
    There are more examples, but I will not clog the branch.
  12. goblin xnumx
    goblin xnumx 10 December 2015 22: 07 New
    +3
    yeah, go out :): at first, people didn’t even let the Turks protest against the authorities in Kazan;) - your position is clear - the article is also a candidate to be deleted and it’s slippery for you to go along with it, support the article, shade in "defamatory ties" - not support - also indecent; you are like a journalist - "impartially about everything"
  • soaring
    soaring 10 December 2015 16: 34 New
    +6
    First of all, you need to plant that bald forehead !!!! This poser and lover to sing songs in front of the people from the rostrum on holidays .... If only there was a voice and a hearing, otherwise I just want to cry for Vysotsky in the performance of this freak! I myself am from the Nizhny Novgorod region and this leader is constantly with us, flying in a helicopter, like a wizard. Only from his magic the region is increasingly sucked into the swamp. And all his reports to BB- well, right, 200 percent more than the plan always !!!! Like in the good old days ... Why hasn’t he been imprisoned yet !? And who is trying to oppose him, he simply ceases to occupy his post or engage in his activities. This is our governor. And do not expel !!!!)))
    Nizhny itself is even less built and lives, and regional centers, villages and villages simply turn into a deserted "desert", which I begin to populate and very actively, jamshuts ... Does this tell you anything !? And all the bosses, so as not to fly out of their warm places, actively lick jo ..... poo this Chubais feeding up ... It’s a pity for the region, very sorry!
    1. Askin
      Askin 10 December 2015 20: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: soaring
      Nizhny itself is even less built and lives, and regional centers, villages and villages simply turn into a deserted "desert", which I begin to populate and very actively, jamsuts ...

      ZMZ collapse saw firsthand!
  • Now we are free
    Now we are free 10 December 2015 09: 09 New
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    .............!?! Sam from Nizhny Novgorod, an article plus. Yes, like the author, I support the completely foreign policy of the state and the renaissance of a healthy love for my country, which, like skiing, cleans all the dust and g ... that has accumulated over more than 20 years. The only question is that under this auspices (Love for the motherland, we are for the Russian world, we will support the president) a lot of people are made up ... in power, which, having caught the tailwind of the society, instantly changed its shoes and became "Into its own board" without forgetting as before p ... denyuzhki, and if it is difficult (because less and less money is allocated) then it is simple - "Optimize" ...

    Yes, the people of the Russian Federation (not offensive to the Ukrainian) are not so dumb as to happily bite their feet off the baboons and are not as inert as the Ukrainian to watch someone else bite them off. Yes, the people of Russia do not want and will not allow the Maidan (we went through this already in the "Wild 90s"), but it’s high time to clean up the outright abomination of the authorities! For it pulls back two steps, when the country's arm with such difficulty manages to take a step forward. Moreover, this abomination pulls back to the abyss ... It's time to get rid of it and just excuse me, d ... in (masons) for such epic EPIC FILES which are listed in the article, you should try to do it! In the complete absence of elementary analytics, what can this lead to.
    In general, it’s difficult to fight with a heavyweight boxer when you have indigestion and about to break the diarrhea ... It’s time to heal the body ...
    1. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 10 December 2015 09: 29 New
      +6
      Well, everything is normal with the hospitals in Nizhny Novgorod, but in the regional centers of the region, of course, it’s a disaster. About 10 years ago there was still medicine, but now there are no normal doctors, there are no medicines either. A little more complicated than a fracture or SARS is to go to large cities for health. Therefore, they optimize.
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 10 December 2015 12: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: Rusich not from Kiev
        Well, everything is normal with the hospitals in Nizhny Novgorod, but in the regional centers of the region, of course, trouble

        Duc, Navashinskaya Central District Hospital in Navashino (population 15 thousand people) is located, and not in the Lower. On which, Nizhny Novgorod is unclear in the article, about 120 km to it.
        A little more complicated than a fracture or SARS is to go to large cities for health. Therefore, they optimize.

        In this hospital there is not even a morgue and a maternity ward; they carry it to Murom (population 110 thousand people), and to Murom 6 km., I.e. close at all.
        We look at Moore:
        MUROM CENTRAL DISTRICT HOSPITAL
        CITY HOSPITAL № 1
        CITY HOSPITAL № 2
        CITY HOSPITAL № 3
        DEPARTMENT HOSPITAL ON ST. MUROM GORKOVSKY RAILWAY.
        In theory, for every 100 thousand people there should be one central district hospital in order to finance the second - we need to somehow give birth to another 85 thousand people. It is not surprising that they are being cut funding - the shortage of patients, they have, is evident. People are not stupid, they know that the larger the settlement, the better the medical care. Therefore, there is a full house in one hospital, and in the second there are plenty of empty seats.
        Of course, they cut funding and, in addition, if there are few patients, it means that there are few insurance payments. Most likely this hospital, from the district, will turn into a city one and it will be right.
        1. Winged 38
          Winged 38 10 December 2015 15: 10 New
          +3
          Here is an example from Irkutsk. Statistics on the Internet in the city is full.
          Now essentially. My son has grown a fingernail. It seems like nothing critical, but it’s already painful to walk, it can’t. In the clinic, after a week of unsuccessful treatment, they write a referral for surgery in the Children's (Ivano-Matreninsky) hospital. We arrive there, but there are no places. Queue for bunks for more than a month! When asked what to do, they shrug and send to a private trader. As a result, he sent the child to his grandmother, 500 km to Nizhneudinsk. And there the child was operated on. And notice, if not for my parents, I would have taken the child to a private trader. The price of a private trader is about 20 thousand. There is no choice!
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 10 December 2015 16: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: Winged 38
            . As a result, he sent the child to his grandmother, for 500 km to Nizhneudinsk

            In the clinic for a week treated ingrown nail? Get fucked up. Yes, they are Kashpirovsky and Chumaki there simply.
            A doctor in the hospital’s admission department had the right to refuse you immediate hospitalization. After all, there was no threat to life.
            If they refuse, because there are no empty places in the hospital, and indications for hospitalization are still found, you should be put on the QUEUE, orient when you should turn to them again.
            Urgency is determined by the state of your health, the maximum period is 2 months. in an ordinary hospital and much more in republican honey. institutions.

            You had to immediately contact the department of protecting the rights of the insured of your insurance company, with a statement on the quality of medical care and conducting an in-person examination.
            The doctors of the polyclinic are to blame, and they, for such things, must be torn.
            And to begin with, one could try to talk with the doctor of the admission department for a written refusal, such things often help smile

            You can try to treat an ingrown nail for a maximum of 3-4 days and then, only in the initial stage. If, during this time, there are no improvements, run to the surgeon. If the child could not walk, then this is not the initial stage.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 11 December 2015 08: 15 New
              0
              Other good words on a medical topic! I will then follow up on your comments, suddenly something else will come in handy. Indeed, Petersburg is very different, the doctor called the hospital with the same nail, and I treated at home for 3 weeks and made sure that everything was beautiful and it’s clean, but the nail has grown even more. In the hospital they were surprised and under general did it and was there for 10 days. But now 2 amazing nails grow on this place instead of 1.
          2. Rusich is not from Kiev
            Rusich is not from Kiev 10 December 2015 17: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Winged 38
            In the clinic, after a week of unsuccessful treatment, they write a referral for surgery in the Children's (Ivano-Matreninsky) hospital. We arrive there, but there are no places. Queue for bunks for more than a month! When asked what to do, they shrug and send to a private trader.

            Well, we have such a situation. Small operations are always the turn. The truth is that you were sent to a private trader illegally. There really is trouble in your city.
        2. Rusich is not from Kiev
          Rusich is not from Kiev 10 December 2015 17: 52 New
          +4
          Quote: GRAY
          Navashinskaya Central District Hospital in Navashino (population 15 thousand people) is located, not in Nizhny.

          I am aware of this.
          Quote: GRAY
          People are not stupid, they know that the larger the settlement, the better the medical care.

          That is the point. If earlier in such towns there were still old Soviet doctors who knew how, they wanted to treat, now they are all retired. You can’t lure young and literate people there. Therefore, when people began to stupidly treat badly, they began to travel to large cities where there are specialists. So it turns out that apart from quarantine, these hospitals are not capable of anything.
          For example, in D. Konstantinovo (in the Nizhny Novgorod region, like Navashino, approximately), a doctor worked in the hospital who could do almost all the operations, he was visited even from the city. Naturally, his staff was normal. My sister gave birth there, was in the country and decided to give birth)) So everything went at the highest level. After he retired for 5 years, this hospital was so degraded that locals began to travel to give birth in Arzamas or Lower. Now this is an emergency hospital or quarantine, if something more complicated and you want to live, you need to go to the city.
          That's it. There is no good doctor, consider no hospital. But where to get these doctors if everyone wants to live in large cities?
      2. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 10 December 2015 17: 50 New
        +2
        This is not optimization, this is the ongoing collapse of our medicine! Optimization is when the result is better for people, and for us, when it turns out better for reporting and plundering of funds from medical leaders.
    2. ltc22A
      ltc22A 10 December 2015 11: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Now we are free
      .............!?! Sam from Nizhny Novgorod, an article plus.

      Only the name is a little inaccurate. According to REN TV, military medical institutions in N. Novgorod and Mulino will not be shown in what condition. Old buildings, little modern honey. equipment, etc. etc. There are many problems, but there is no solution yet.
  • Askin
    Askin 10 December 2015 09: 25 New
    16
    Quote: Igor39
    Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! Transplant thieves, remove dumbasses from bosses!

    So big, but believe in fairy tales!
  • Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 10 December 2015 09: 28 New
    -2
    Or maybe it's just that Vladimir Vladimirovich does not know what is going on with us?
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 10 December 2015 09: 47 New
      28
      Confiscation + landing. Including governors and princes of the district!

      Shantsev (governor of Nizhny Novgorod region) is generally something, something! Who should have been imprisoned, in the country, first of all, this way of him and all the heads of administrations of the Nizhny Novgorod region! Vorie is not enough to say! Investigative Committee Aww!
      something like that:
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 09: 56 New
        -12
        Quote: Bombardier
        Confiscation + landing. Including governors and princes of the district!

        And instead of them, whom do you plant-patriots? Show me them, I want to look at their faces.
        1. vgorlekost
          vgorlekost 10 December 2015 10: 09 New
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And instead of them, whom do you plant-patriots? Show me them, I want to look at their faces.
          - This means let those who sit and steal further sit on ... Probably, it is possible to draw quite definite conclusions about the commentator? Has access to a feeding trough?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 10: 12 New
            -5
            Quote: vgorlekost
            - This means let those who sit and steal further ...

            Who steals do you have facts? -Why do not announce, do not apply to the authorities?
            Quote: vgorlekost
            .. Probably, it is possible to draw very definite conclusions about the commentator? Has access to a feeding trough?

            The level of my life in the past year and a half has fallen very much, but it’s my fault, only me, not the statehi
            1. Bombardier
              Bombardier 10 December 2015 10: 17 New
              +6
              Quote: Alexander Romanov

              Who steals do you have facts? -Why do not announce, do not apply to the authorities?


              Everyone must do their job! Then we will live well. Let the Investigative Committee do its own thing - we pay salaries (taxes) for this.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 10: 58 New
                -3
                Quote: Bombardier
                Everyone must do their job!

                It’s wonderful, but here every second person knows how the investigation is going on, what evidence there is in the case. Everyone knows who steals, but for some reason they don’t go to the prosecutor and give evidence.
                Quote: Bombardier
                Let the Investigative Committee do its own thing - we pay salaries (taxes) for this.

                I remember the article about the stealing general who was imprisoned. And I remember the comments to the article. I didn’t fit into the system, I framed it, I didn’t share it like that. Because I don’t think that we will live well.
            2. vgorlekost
              vgorlekost 10 December 2015 10: 22 New
              +8
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Who steals do you have facts? -Why do not announce, do not apply to the authorities?

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The level of my life in the past year and a half has fallen very much, but it’s my fault, only me, not the state

              The people, yes he is 100% ALIEN. I don’t have words for him anymore ............ normal .....
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 11: 01 New
                -1
                Quote: vgorlekost

                The people, yes he is 100% ALIEN

                Yeah, from Sirius flew in 1976
                Quote: vgorlekost
                I don’t have words for him anymore ............ normal .....

                Indeed, how can you blame yourself when you can blame the state. How could it have crossed my mind to turn to the prosecutor. And indeed what a fool I am.
                1. anip
                  anip 10 December 2015 11: 45 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yeah, from Sirius flew in 1976

                  Together with Putin.
                2. Kovlad
                  Kovlad 10 December 2015 13: 43 New
                  +6
                  Alexander Romanov.
                  Generally did not want to get into such a polemic. But, reading your comments, it seems that you are either naive, like a child, or living in another country, or, most likely, just a provocateur.
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                3. dmikras
                  dmikras 10 December 2015 19: 31 New
                  0
                  I did not understand how the time of writing the message is 15.09 and the time in PM 15.20 tell me please
                4. Bombardier
                  Bombardier 10 December 2015 19: 55 New
                  +1
                  added to the old post .. winked
              2. Valentine
                Valentine 10 December 2015 23: 15 New
                -2
                Quote: Bombardier
                All my last comment - they completely banned me. The site is full of a cabal. Farewell.

                I have a message in PM from Banshee laughing :


                RE: DISCLAIMER OF THE SITE RULES
                Online banshee
                Today, 15: 20
                Moron ...

                Well, men, "talked", and now you can take up chains with bats, and sort things out with your fists, then with Maidan with snipers, then with the civil war .... Here it is, it would seem, medical
                Temko on VO, it seems, and out of place, but how many emotions, how much expression, and if there were a “wall to wall”, how many ribs would break, how many teeth were missing,
                and this is just the beginning, further "stuffing"
                they’ll be more interesting, believe me, I’m familiar with this ... All this is taught in Washington,
                on the courses of "sewing and sewing" to spread the "color" revolutions ... That's just who we will share, again on
                white and red, on gentlemen and comrades,
                how to civil? Yes, dashing trouble began, and
                there, Nuland will drive up with cookies.
              3. Yars
                Yars 11 December 2015 00: 00 New
                -2
                Quote: Valentine
                Quote: Bombardier
                All my last comment - they completely banned me. The site is full of a cabal. Farewell.

                I have a message in PM from Banshee laughing :


                RE: DISCLAIMER OF THE SITE RULES
                Online banshee
                Today, 15: 20
                Moron ...

                Well, men, "talked", and now you can take up chains with bats, and sort things out with your fists, then with Maidan with snipers, then with the civil war .... Here it is, it would seem, medical
                Temko on VO, it seems, and out of place, but how many emotions, how much expression, and if there were a “wall to wall”, how many ribs would break, how many teeth were missing,
                and this is just the beginning, further "stuffing"
                they’ll be more interesting, believe me, I’m familiar with this ... All this is taught in Washington,
                on the courses of "sewing and sewing" to spread the "color" revolutions ... That's just who we will share, again on
                white and red, on gentlemen and comrades,
                how to civil? Yes, dashing trouble began, and
                there, Nuland will drive up with cookies.

                those who organize this on this forum have already passed such courses a long time ago, because they are trolling here trying to powder the people’s brains!
          2. bastard
            bastard 10 December 2015 22: 20 New
            +3
            Quote: vgorlekost
            But when Romanov, in a neighboring topic, calls those who disagree with him a herd, a fool, etc. it’s in the order of things .... Strange. Or vice versa, naturally?

            Jupiter, however.
        2. goblin xnumx
          goblin xnumx 10 December 2015 22: 21 New
          +3
          somehow on the site there was an article about the fact that it would be nice for the site to exchange money from the state, almost the media, after all :) - but they’ll lead the government and voice the policy
        3. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 10 December 2015 22: 26 New
          +5
          Quote: Leshy74
          but the nada and state policy are voiced

          And what is this state policy?
          Can you clearly explain at least 3 points?
    2. Yars
      Yars 10 December 2015 23: 57 New
      -3
      Quote: Kovlad
      Alexander Romanov.
      Generally did not want to get into such a polemic. But, reading your comments, it seems that you are either naive, like a child, or living in another country, or, most likely, just a provocateur.

      YES NO, you are mistaken, his opponents are provocateurs, and they don’t do anything about the lamented ones who are sitting, they only slander the government and can but no more!
      1. vgorlekost
        vgorlekost 11 December 2015 03: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: YARS
        YES NO, you are mistaken, his opponents are provocateurs, and they don’t do anything about the lamented ones who are sitting, they only slander the government and can but no more!

        Blind man, look what's going on around !!!!! And if you do not see anything, it means that your eyes are covered with dough, and you are the same vrazhin - from which people are already howling !!!!! The defender turned up ....... blank ring.
    3. tomket
      tomket 11 December 2015 00: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: Kovlad
      that you are either naive, like a child, or living in another country, or, most likely, just a provocateur.

      This D. Medvedev incognito made his way to the site.
  • Mera joota
    Mera joota 10 December 2015 10: 51 New
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    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Who steals do you have facts? -Why do not announce, do not apply to the authorities?

    Our governor, who was previously the mayor of the joint venture, sold more than 1500 apartments for beneficiaries and sold at a reduced price, for which he was judged, and he openly stated that the sale of apartments was legal and he was aware of the sales. However, the investigation has NO complaints against him.
    The essence of the matter. Developers are required to transfer part of the apartments to the city to the fire fund and to beneficiaries, but these apartments were sold at a meager price to anyone who needed it and they already sold apartments at the market price. As a result, beneficiaries, and someone’s pocket replenished by a sickly amount.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 11: 03 New
      -6
      Quote: Mera Joota
      and he openly stated that the sale of apartments was legal and he was aware of sales

      Did the investigation check his words? For example, you, before they start UD, do not frail work.
  • anip
    anip 10 December 2015 11: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    but it's my fault, only myself

    In this case, these are your problems.
  • Bombardier
    Bombardier 10 December 2015 10: 11 New
    +6
    And .., the provocateur Romanov .... And you will steal in such volumes if your predecessor was shot and confiscated EVERYTHING, including housing for his entire family (provided one-room, instead of countless choirs)? And decent people are still in Russia!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 11: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Bombardier
      And you will steal in such volumes, if your predecessor was shot and confiscated EVERYTHING

      I do not know, did not steal in any volumes.
  • Corsair
    Corsair 10 December 2015 10: 24 New
    +9
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And instead of them, whom do you plant-patriots? Show me them, I want to look at their faces.

    what I think, with the proper approach, you can find people in these places who care about the country for the region of the city, but you just need to completely change the devices, otherwise the henchmen will devour or substitute. Well, it’s time to introduce the OBHSS for a long time, not fines, but real landings, with confiscation, verification of income and expenses.
    And this whole circus with the disclosure of income without the disclosure of expenses is a sheer farce, the sense of the fact that it announced 5 million earnings (which also needs to be checked) if you spent 10 per year?
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 10 December 2015 10: 40 New
      +7
      Romanov above, offers the Russians-Maidan! Ah ha, why the hell is the state to us, if all (abscesses) are resolved at a gathering of dissatisfied? Many, our neighbors, found the "truths" after the Maidan? After all, they went out (as they say) to fight injustice! "TRUTH" after the Maidan - has become even less!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 11: 13 New
        -6
        Quote: Bombardier
        Romanov above, offers the Russians-Maidan! Aha ha

  • anip
    anip 10 December 2015 11: 43 New
    -1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And instead of them, whom do you plant-patriots? Show me them, I want to look at their faces.

    Yes, of course, of course, it is better if Putin rules with his thieves' entourage. At least you saw their faces.
  • vsoltan
    vsoltan 10 December 2015 08: 56 New
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    And it’s necessary to start cleaning up healthcare with Skvortsova ... am
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 10 December 2015 09: 28 New
      27
      Yesterday they showed on TV how the ministers were gathered by V.V. Putin. So, she, could not explain his proposal for the federal sector in the compulsory medical insurance. He, her, once asked, another. As a result, "in a week, I will explain to you." Trouble. Before that there was AlkaGolikova. Again trouble. I have the impression that there is such a caste, official. And, this caste unites personalities, no matter in which branch of workers. There is one criterion: incompetence.
      1. 8 inches
        8 inches 10 December 2015 10: 20 New
        +4
        this is not a caste. the official is a state of mind. or a disease of the soul. I always ask them the same question - how does a person who is useless feel like? Isn’t it yourself disgusting to be a person whose life purpose is in writing papers? how can you be insignificant .. usually then speechless. a system failure occurs.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 10 December 2015 10: 45 New
          +2
          What, for a "state of mind" when a hand washes a hand? Yes, and about the "insignificance." Yes, he is looking at others like that. Counts money and looks grinning. So that caste is.
          1. 8 inches
            8 inches 10 December 2015 11: 08 New
            +4
            money is considered by no means everything there. the main mass is precisely dullness ... and yes they’re used to that people go to ask them and humiliate themselves. and you try to communicate with them down-like the person who does stupid business. The result may surprise you greatly. a person can endure a lot, but cannot stand contempt ...
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 10 December 2015 11: 37 New
              0
              money is considered there by no means everything. The main mass is precisely dullness ...
              Come on. It turns out that they are sitting there, just for the pleasure of spitting on someone. Do not tell, this is not “Kin-dza-dza!”
              1. 8 inches
                8 inches 10 December 2015 11: 45 New
                +3
                why? the bulk — they really do not get much there. Work for the future, so to speak — the more years the higher the salary and the better their retirement there. High positions are not for them, they already have their own jobs. But the main thing for this grayness is to work then do not ... you draw up the paperwork on time and that's it. you talk like something with the small fry from the same district administration, do not remember Kin-Dza Dza but the Gogol's overcoat ...
                1. avva2012
                  avva2012 10 December 2015 12: 03 New
                  0
                  "There" do not fall their own. The system of bureaucracy in tsarist Russia was somewhat different. "The Overcoat" N.V. Gogol, not a political satire. This is a cruel irony over oneself. It is known that Nikolai Vasilievich was a man from a certain age, very, to put it mildly, strange.
                  1. 8 inches
                    8 inches 10 December 2015 12: 22 New
                    +1
                    they get in. but only grassroots posts. The maximum will grow to a specialist. Or they’re not even able to write their own ... and where does the political satire ... in the overcoat it’s the grayness and worthlessness of most ink souls that is well shown. Strange ... and which of the writers especially with age was not strange? Jack London remember ..
      2. Mera joota
        Mera joota 10 December 2015 10: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: avva2012
        I have the impression that there is such a caste, official.

        You are probably young because the term NOMENCLATURE is clearly unknown to you.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 10 December 2015 10: 58 New
          +1
          No, the term is known. BUT, caste is a deeper concept. On my young sight.
          1. asiat_61
            asiat_61 11 December 2015 00: 49 New
            +2
            Zadornov M.N. says about this: .. everyone who has the ability, went to work in their specialty, and mediocrity went to officials ...
    2. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 10 December 2015 15: 37 New
      +2
      ..... And you should start cleaning up healthcare with Skvortsova ...

      .... Cut off the tail !!!!! .... On the very head !!!! ... laughing
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 10 December 2015 15: 50 New
        0
        Too late to amputate, Skvortsova’s head has already decayed.
    3. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 10 December 2015 18: 08 New
      +2
      Order must be restored, starting with Medvedev!
      1. bastard
        bastard 10 December 2015 23: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        ..... And you should start cleaning up healthcare with Skvortsova ...
        .... Cut off the tail !!!!! .... On the very head !!!!.

        Quote: Saratoga833
        Order must be restored, starting with Medvedev!

        To start with Chubais. And conduct thermorectal cryptanalysis to find out more useful information.
  • Turbo
    Turbo rabbit 10 December 2015 08: 59 New
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    To fight corruption, it is necessary to allocate not money from the budget, but cartridges from an arsenal.
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 10 December 2015 09: 14 New
      16
      Quote: Turbo-Rabbit
      To fight corruption, it is necessary to allocate not money from the budget, but cartridges from an arsenal.

      Shooting is wildness.
      Do not stain the wall - bury them alive ....
      1. Turbo
        Turbo rabbit 10 December 2015 09: 19 New
        0
        Arsenal, need to be updated with benefit
        1. Riv
          Riv 10 December 2015 09: 26 New
          0
          Then maybe conduct accelerated courses and send to Syria on the MiG-21? Double benefits come out.
          1. Turbo
            Turbo rabbit 10 December 2015 10: 51 New
            +2
            Not, on the MiG 15 exclusively, and no courses, let them master the technique as they depart!
      2. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 10 December 2015 09: 52 New
        +9
        Quote: podpolkovnik
        Shooting is wildness.
        Do not stain the wall - bury them alive ....


        Tough, however, you are a colleague. Then it is desirable on agricultural lands, the threshing floor will not disappear. yes
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  • Tanker55
    Tanker55 10 December 2015 09: 01 New
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    In every region of Great Russia, an approximate action by officials is taking place.Take my city of Omsk. In 2016, the city will be 300 years old, they promise a regional holiday, but in reality it’s deplorable. There is no work, anyway, from the service station to the service station ( hodovka crashes), according to the mayor, there is no snow on the roads, but in reality everything is different.
    I think that all this will be corrected, all the bureaucrats will do their job in full and we will be happy.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 10 December 2015 10: 56 New
      +5
      Quote: Tankman55
      No work, anyway how

      Omsk roads .... it's just a fairy tale ... scary ... greetings from Polezhaev ...
      You still remember about the subway! How much was stolen on it?
  • aniza
    aniza 10 December 2015 09: 02 New
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    Schools are not profitable, hospitals are not profitable, universities are generally a hotbed of discontent. Of course, it is not profitable for those people who have children and all their savings over the hill.
    1. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 10 December 2015 09: 31 New
      -5
      What nonsense. In the United States, a third without honey. help so there too whether children live in London?
      1. Mera joota
        Mera joota 10 December 2015 10: 58 New
        +4
        Quote: Rusich not from Kiev
        What nonsense. In the United States, a third without honey. help so there too whether children live in London?

        Who tells you such tales? Where is this nonsense generator?
        1. Rusich is not from Kiev
          Rusich is not from Kiev 10 December 2015 17: 22 New
          0
          Quote: Mera Joota
          Where is this nonsense generator?

          In the USA, what?
      2. Azitral
        Azitral 10 December 2015 11: 28 New
        +3
        Why not follow the US example in something else? Science, organization of production, living standards? Why imitate the bad?
  • Lukich
    Lukich 10 December 2015 09: 02 New
    22
    It seems that half of those who should help the president in resolving such issues receive a salary from the US State Department
    but most likely the way it is
    Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! Transplant thieves, remove dumbasses from bosses! And our Russian people will roll such mountains that no one else can do. I want to believe that not immediately, but it will work out
    sure to succeed. let it only begin
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 10 December 2015 09: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: Lukich
      let it only begin


      Yes, like already started. From the Governors.
      But the governors themselves and not the GDP should deal with local bosses. Everyone has to do their job, and it is the governors who have been set up to monitor the order in the regions. But if this order is not there - then shit from the spot, let it take a man who is not too lazy to do this.
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    3. Yoshig
      Yoshig 10 December 2015 12: 27 New
      +3
      To continue the theme, remember where the daughters of Vladimir Vladimirovich studied ??? And where do they live now? It is strange that the children of large officials who are responsible for the situation in many areas of our state are trying to do everything possible so that they do not appear in these areas. However ...
  • Cananecat
    Cananecat 10 December 2015 09: 03 New
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    Then Astakhov proposed introducing the death penalty for all kinds of child maniacs and rapists ... now there is someone to apply in droves.
  • imugn
    imugn 10 December 2015 09: 04 New
    19
    again, "the king does not know what is happening"? what naivety ...

    "+" for topicality
    1. forumow
      forumow 10 December 2015 09: 24 New
      12
      Well yes! An old story about the "good king and evil boyars."
  • Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 10 December 2015 09: 04 New
    18
    Really a mess in the regions!
    What about the "small business", that in the "social network" ... Officials are simply overgrown!
    If our President does not have time to turn his attention to "domestic politics", then, most likely very soon, the challenges in Domestic politics will become much more dangerous than the challenges in Foreign!
    I think so!
  • Averias
    Averias 10 December 2015 09: 05 New
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    Yesterday I also saw the news, only about the Tver region. The village is there, there is a hospital in it, there is one doctor, a woman of 77 years old, and as the girl (registry) understood from the plot. Nobody wants to work, as the salary is 7 thousand rubles. Interestingly, but what about peppy reports that doctors are paid with dignity? About the fact that doctors who want to work in settlements have bonuses and an excellent salary? Yes, what the ..... sit on the ground and above. After all, this is "fraud" in the cube. There is no need to "hang dogs" on the president; he already manages to "brush aside" the "friends of the cursed" on the external "front." Also about farmers, yesterday Khazin generally said: What can happen can only be commented on with obscenities. Another from the Center for Strategic Planning, said bluntly: Tens of trillions are hanging around in the budget that year !!! rubles idle. And to help farmers, her, this "us" is not necessary. He bluntly said that Medvedev had "rested" his horn on his own and did not want to change anything. I do not blame, it makes no sense, as well as the full picture. But it somehow looks like a "velvet sabotage". What kind of import substitution, if the locals are posed .....
  • Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 10 December 2015 09: 06 New
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    It’s good that pediatrics and psychiatry have not been optimized yet. fool

    Mr. DAM! I understand that you do not sleep at night! Discuss international relations! Call Ukraine Swindlers! But why doesn’t your cabinet of government see Rogues inside the country!
    Good! the owner, the order begins to restore from home!
    1. tomket
      tomket 11 December 2015 00: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: Ruswolf
      But why doesn’t your cabinet of government see Rogues inside the country!

      I suppose they are all ghouls there and are not reflected in the mirrors. Because they do not see.
  • vgorlekost
    vgorlekost 10 December 2015 09: 08 New
    26
    Irkutsk region. A relative works as an assistant teacher (nanny) in a kindergarten. Always worked at one and a half rates, paid as for one. accrued 10-11 thousand. Every three months they filed a lawsuit, since they at least awarded something else from above, but they are waiting for these surcharges by court decisions for months. And now lawyers from education have learned something, one and a half bids are now gone, the amount of work is the same - last month I got SIX THOUSAND with something !!! Despite the fact that our products are more expensive than in the capitals ...
    They wrote to Putin more than once, and they came from other gardens. Those who disagree begin to spread rot, they offer to quit, they are glad that there will NOT be an advance payment on 25.12/XNUMX!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 09: 54 New
      -17
      Quote: vgorlekost
      Last month I got SIX THOUSAND with something !!

      Let him get a job as a cleaner at school, will receive 15 thousand.
      1. Bombardier
        Bombardier 10 December 2015 10: 46 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: vgorlekost
        Last month I got SIX THOUSAND with something !!

        Let him get a job as a cleaner at school, will receive 15 thousand.



        And in kindergarten, let everything grow dirty with mud! laughing Well Romanov, well ....!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 11: 29 New
          -11
          Quote: Bombardier
          And in kindergarten, let everything grow dirty with mud!

          A person goes and gets a job himself. I don’t like that she gets a little quit, no one keeps it. What is the point of working for a penny so that to get paid is a little to say.
          1. Bombardier
            Bombardier 10 December 2015 11: 35 New
            +7
            I applaud! Kindergarten what to do - to grow dirt? or invite Gaster there ?! Bravo, Romanov - come on again! I have not been to the circus for a long time.
          2. Banshee
            Banshee 10 December 2015 12: 06 New
            +7
            Bust, however ... Romanov, you're wrong.
          3. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 10 December 2015 23: 16 New
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            .What is the point of working for kopecks, so that getting a paycheck is not enough.

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I will give you a parabellum with one cartridge.

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            What paradise has come in Romania?

            Mr. Moderator today, apparently, is a celebration of the soul
            Quote: Banshee
            Bust, however ... Romanov, you're wrong.
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          5. Ugrumiy
            Ugrumiy 13 December 2015 02: 26 New
            0
            My mother is a veteran of labor, an honored educator! Has been working in kindergarten for over 40 years! I’ve wanted to quit several times already, so the parents of the children of her group every time collect a delegation and go to the manager and to herself and ask her not to leave. So mother, raising a bunch of children, neither of whom sat down or sleeps, and normal people have grown up who are now leading her to her, so she gets 16 thousand with all the allowances and markups! So much for the care of children and people who lay in them the very foundations of life and upbringing! But she simply can’t leave, she is sorry to leave her children.
      2. Mera joota
        Mera joota 10 December 2015 11: 00 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Let him get a job as a cleaner at school, will receive 15 thousand.

        You are just on the beat today!
        1. anip
          anip 10 December 2015 11: 51 New
          +6
          Quote: Mera Joota
          You are just on the beat today!

          Is always...
      3. vgorlekost
        vgorlekost 10 December 2015 13: 48 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Let him get a job as a cleaner at school, will receive 15 thousand.

        In our area there are no such salaries, read carefully what you comment! And the extra work, where you are waiting with open arms is not the same as everywhere else now, return to the ground! Recently there was a case — a woman with two higher educations came to take care of a nanny in their kindergarten — they didn’t take her, so she lamented that a fifth or sixth garden would bring a bummer everywhere. Do you even know that working in the country is much worse than a year ago? And the employer takes advantage of this and ss. cuts and staff who do not like it, write a statement ..... And people need to eat something and feed and dress children, if you understand what it is .......
    2. plaha
      plaha 10 December 2015 11: 00 New
      +4
      In Krasnodar, the same thing.
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 10 December 2015 12: 37 New
        +3
        Well duck! The best city in the country for improvement! To the three streets of the city - Red, Northern and Stavropol it can be attributed with a stretch. But at 100 m. Right-left already on the neighboring streets - a pigsty. Is our country so withered? Or commissions just sitting in a restaurant on Red showed slides? With doctors, teachers too - even a wolf howl! The industry lies and its limbs do not even twitch - the agony ended ... negative
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  • bubalik
    bubalik 10 December 2015 09: 09 New
    +8
    ,,, it's all lies.! Yesterday, D. Medvedev himself said to the question
    What's this? Is someone attempting sacred, free medical care?

    Nobody encroaches on the holy. Who will encroach, we will give hands and other parts of the body.
    wassat

    ,,, I hope everyone understood sarcasm,
  • Basil50
    Basil50 10 December 2015 09: 11 New
    +8
    It seems to me that it is impossible for a country to exist when everything and everything depends on the will of one person. Why should the president pay attention to what is happening? Yes, because no one has any responsibility in the civil service. To ruin an existing enterprise, hospital or something else to create and no responsibility, well, unless the feeder will be excommunicated for the inability to do everything quietly. I would like to introduce the responsibility of officials and for relatives, up to the criminal one.
  • Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 10 December 2015 09: 11 New
    +6
    It would be nice for the author of the article and the president to write a letter about this flagrant outrage.
    Here is the link for writing a letter: http://letters.kremlin.ru/send
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  • Svarog5570
    Svarog5570 10 December 2015 09: 12 New
    +7
    Previously, such ghouls as our deputies planted a descendant as their actions were classified as Sabotage
  • Woodman
    Woodman 10 December 2015 09: 13 New
    +7
    It is necessary to drive all these optimizers with a filthy broom. It seems that in their understanding, optimization is a dumb cost reduction, anyway due to someone or what, and not improving the system by eliminating the existing shortcomings. Certainly, you will think about the benefit of which state all these optimizers work ...
  • Aleksey888
    Aleksey888 10 December 2015 09: 13 New
    +9
    Article 5+. Russia can be destroyed only from the inside.
  • 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 10 December 2015 09: 13 New
    10
    Thieves, but there really are a lot of people in serious armchairs to put it mildly with their minds, they do not shine. Then everyone has a red diploma, and even not one at a time. Maybe it’s time to start the selection of personnel from the people, to choose those who are more economical and more efficient. Not for higher education, but for secondary reason. But in my city, the whole leadership, both appointed and elected, is the children of those who were in power in the 90s. Communicated here with the deputy of the city Duma. from the district, well, I’ll tell you, the person is very, not far away, well, except that he knows how to swear, but obviously he doesn’t attract the lawmaker even at the city level.
  • ML-334
    ML-334 10 December 2015 09: 13 New
    +5
    I think the people need weapons, and then any official will think a hundred times before hacking something. For a simple reason, he will make him follow the bazaar.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 09: 52 New
      -10
      Quote: ML-334
      I think people need weapons

      I will give you a parabellum with one cartridge.
      1. ML-334
        ML-334 10 December 2015 11: 33 New
        +3
        After watching the Russian news, I would "SHILKA".
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 12: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: ML-334
          After watching the Russian news, I would "SHILKA".

          What paradise has come in Romania?
          1. ML-334
            ML-334 10 December 2015 13: 11 New
            0
            So is it Romanian? Then I look, I’m sculpted with a hunchback. So it’s from the Urals.
          2. ℳy ℒiƒℯ
            ℳy ℒiƒℯ 10 December 2015 13: 42 New
            0
            What paradise has come in Romania?

            Paradise, not paradise. But the standard of living is not lower than in Russia.
      2. vgorlekost
        vgorlekost 10 December 2015 11: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I will give you a parabellum with one cartridge.

        I think many would agree, if you personally bring .... With a cartridge in the barrel, I wouldn’t have time to escape .....)))
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 12: 06 New
          -1
          Quote: vgorlekost
          if personally bring.

          In PM you poke me, but here you are, but oh well.
          1. vgorlekost
            vgorlekost 10 December 2015 13: 36 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            In PM you poke me, but here you are, but oh well.

            Your untruth! When you wrote me the first one on you, so I turned to you. And today I myself wrote to you! Refresh memory - re-read again.
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    2. Scoun
      Scoun 10 December 2015 12: 33 New
      +3
      Quote: ML-334
      I think people need weapons, and then any official will think a hundred times before he messes up

      Yes, along the way, the story of the Krasnogorsk shooter has not yet reached out to everyone. My colleague, in court, received his money from the city administration for repairing the school, and even through the counterparty database you can see that he was suing the administration, but these are flowers ... he asked for his miserable sum of several hundred thousand rubles two years after the court order and only in October he got the rest and he had to pay the workers back in 2013.

      and for some who are in the “tank” and do not want to see reality around with its pros and cons, I recommend reading it and by the way, one of the characters a couple of years ago successfully moved to the administration in Krasnogorsk.
      http://kid-2003.narod.ru/index302.html
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 10 December 2015 23: 10 New
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        Yes, along the way, the story of the Krasnogorsk shooter has not yet reached everyone

        You saw his house in the cottage village 3 Hunting in New Riga? Everything is in marble. The check sat tightly on the regional money. And in the 10th year I saw him approximately. He came to the construction site of his cottage and started yelling without preparation. I still thought that his nerves were naughty. And after 4 years, that's how it got out.
  • Antropos
    Antropos 10 December 2015 09: 16 New
    +7
    At one of the largest defense enterprises in St. Petersburg, the executive director planted the bottom with a building education. Duc it now requires an estimate! for the manufacture of engineering products. (((
    1. Averias
      Averias 10 December 2015 09: 52 New
      20
      Quote: Anthropos
      At one of the largest defense enterprises in St. Petersburg, the executive director planted the bottom with a building education. Duc it now requires an estimate! for the manufacture of engineering products. (((

      On a personal example. We carry out the supply of certain metal products, respectively (according to the project) it is galvanized. So the customer (in the person of managerial managers), not knowing what else to dig up to (because the order was cheapened to such an extent, and with this profiled, or rather due to their illiteracy, they excluded design features in the project. change is frustrated). So, in order to shift from “sick head” to “healthy”, they requested from us .... attention .... certificate for zinc (which is galvanized). We were so taken aback by such that we thought a joke. No, not a joke. We asked them, and you imagine the galvanizing process? What is a galvanizing bath? What is electroplating? And they are few, they still needed to indicate the percentage of zinc in the metal!?!? They motivate like this: They say it’s an alloy !!! (what a damn alloy, this is a coating), so the more zinc there is in the alloy, the stronger the structure will bend. This is nonsense, this is idioizm in a cube, the producer of laughter already cried. He requested in writing, they sent the same thing, word for word. And I also recorded the conversation. Sent above, there, too, assessed professional suitability. Now the "heads fly" begin. Your division, illiteracy and ambition are just going wild. And all this with such a smart look, shouting, demanding.
      1. Yoshig
        Yoshig 10 December 2015 12: 54 New
        +2
        And where will literacy come from, if in the field of education corruption and sloppiness flourish in the same way. In hospitals, doctors threesome people save from death by 3 plus. Who's guilty? The one who received this education or the one who gave it? He also handed a state diploma.
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  • shura7782
    shura7782 10 December 2015 09: 17 New
    +1
    It is annoying to see and hear all this every day. Minister of Health on the QTY!
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 10 December 2015 12: 32 New
      +3
      "Minister of Health on the QTY!"
      She was sitting. She liked it.
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 10 December 2015 09: 18 New
    -2
    Usually it happens that certain criminal schemes loop over each specific city! There simply can’t find the truth, you usually need to go to the area. There can only be one way out. Firstly, a high-ranking leader should not be in his place for more than the allotted time, secondly, some high positions should be held by people not from this region, and thirdly, we need a system for monitoring the region’s activities. leaders sit in their places for 50 years and create mutual responsibility and criminal schemes. With the history of the hospital, this is a local way out of the situation. There are no salary reductions nationwide. There is local arbitrariness and that’s all. So someone needs to make statements to other authorities, in this city and in parallel to other places, to do this work. Not everyone will be able to do this ... but there is no way for the government to track the activities of each bureaucrat. Problems on the ground is not a reason to judge the activities of the country as a whole, and especially the government.
  • Alexzora
    Alexzora 10 December 2015 09: 24 New
    +5
    Is there anybody from Nizhny Novgorod?
    You can write to the prosecutor's office request for the subject "On the basis of which document public utilities raise tariffs?"
    "To whom does the hospital manager intend to donate empty" optimized "squares?"
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 10 December 2015 09: 33 New
      +2
      Toka like that wanted to unsubscribe.
      In general, the sense of cormorant when it is a real physical lever and completely legal?
      A letter is simply written to the district prosecutor’s office - "I ask you to check such and such an object in connection with a suspicion of violation of the legislation of the Russian Federation" or in a similar vein, while within a month they must answer that they took note of at least.
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    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 11: 33 New
      -4
      Quote: AlexZora
      You can write a request to the prosecutor

      There is no one to write, everyone on the sites write angry comments. At least it occurred to someone to call on TV.
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 10 December 2015 20: 31 New
        0
        http://proc-nn.ru/ru/7/36/
        Address:
        603000, Nizhny Novgorod, Gorky St., 150
        City prosecutor
        Senior Counselor of Justice
        GALCHENKO Andrey Igorevich
        Tel. 421-25-19

        Go ahead. In case of failure to comply with legal civil requirements, we go higher in the courts.
        No seriously. Or there really is nobody to write for reason a) there is nothing; b) nobody needs it; Or you just want to outrage.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        At least it occurred to someone on TV to call.

        Also write to Sportloto. The result is the same.
        I explain. The fact that on TV they do not seem to be a fact that will be taken into account by the authorities (they already have enough of their own crap), and there they should either kick from above (higher authorities who again have enough of their crap) or from below (statement from a citizen).
        And further. For your information. If you write to the presidential administration, the answer will be within 3-5 months purely because of the procedural routine. If the district prosecutor’s office a month ..
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 10 December 2015 09: 25 New
    +9
    Read the public "Angry Medic".
    Doctors directly say that the elimination of publicly available medicine is being prepared.
    Through the "optimization" of financing, through the meddling of doctors with paperwork,
    through the public lowering of medicine to the level of janitors and constantly spreading rot.
    Now the old frames will survive, but there will never be new ones.
    In our city hospital, the medical staff of one of the trauma departments quit in full force.
    And what, it became better for everyone from the fact that it is necessary to spend less on their RFP?
    But the heads of medical institutions would be worth shaking from top to bottom, especially in terms of salary level.
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 10 December 2015 12: 42 New
      +1
      Then instead of all this bl .. by the name of publicly available medicine it is time to introduce euthanasia. It's faster, cheaper, more affordable, love more merciful. crying
  • rapid1934
    rapid1934 10 December 2015 09: 26 New
    +8
    The foreign policy of our state is at its best. good
    Domestic politics below the plinth. negative
    It seems that the clumsy, if not treacherous actions within the country (health care, education, the openness of the outright thief-Serdyukov, Vasilyev ....) specifically provoke an increase in people's discontent.
    If the rear (the support of the president by the people) weakens (and for this everything is done, see above), then the consequences can be sad. hi
    Mr. President, are you short of strength or desire? Do you calculate the consequences? request
    1. ℳy ℒiƒℯ
      ℳy ℒiƒℯ 10 December 2015 13: 55 New
      +8
      The foreign policy of our state is at its best.
      Domestic politics below the plinth.


      Why does Russia have a good foreign policy and a bad domestic one?
      Because Russians learn about foreign policy from Channel 1, and they see the domestic themselves.
  • Alexzora
    Alexzora 10 December 2015 09: 27 New
    +3
    Comment on the article.
    And where is the name of the official?
    people should know their "heroes"
  • Chyudilkin
    Chyudilkin 10 December 2015 09: 37 New
    -8
    Quote: Aleksey888
    Article 5+. Russia can be destroyed only from the inside.


    I disagree !!! In order to ruin Russia, an alien invasion is necessary, provided that the five-armed will swear, space alcohol will drink, remember mother and emperor of the galaxy will be Nitup, we’ll change soap in short))) So you don’t understand Russians in general, it's cold in winter, it's hot in summer, and whatever May-Little, take away everything! People, we are the most dissatisfied nation in the world that does not know what it wants. In short, we have not decided what our role in the universe is! So mb and these mouse liars are also not yet determined, although something tells me and they will arrive sooner or later!
  • askort154
    askort154 10 December 2015 09: 40 New
    12
    The motive of the article is clear and relevant. The motto of the GDP, "do not give up" is good, but not for
    the bureaucratic elite, which perceives it as a guarantee of the unwaveringness of their chair. Another motto is “do not change horses at the crossing,” you also have to forget, because
    Today's “horses” are overfed, and they cannot reach the crossing. As they say,
    if it were my will, I would “fuck” all the privileges of officials:
    - salary of an official of any rank, not more than 2 average salaries in the region,
    - the pension is not 75% of the salary, but on a common basis,
    - for a bribe, necessarily a prison with the complete confiscation of family property,
    - upon taking up a post, a subscription not to leave the country, not
    work-related and do not have accounts abroad.
    - treatment of your own and those close to you, as well as vacation, only in your own state. (For now).
  • Belousov
    Belousov 10 December 2015 09: 42 New
    +8
    A couple of weeks ago, our Samara-Mordovian governor Merkushkin went to Putin for a report, said that he would transfer the lower and middle class officials to Lada Vesta (doesn’t he remind anyone?), For some reason he forgot to tell his beloved about himself. In addition, investment in the agricultural sector decreased by 25%. As a result, the pleased governor went home, and not to the bullpen.
    Mother - a doctor with 35 years of experience, works in two areas as an infectious disease specialist, because there is no one else for such a penny. Everything is going to quit (since there has long been an opportunity to put her at home with her grandchildren), but still her conscience does not let her go, she lends herself to persuading the leadership. As a result, the last "Soviet" doctors will really leave, and then what?
    And each of us can cite many such examples here. The question is - does Putin see nothing then, what kind of leader is this blind? Or he is interested in the collapse of the country. And do not sing here about the Crimea, etc. This is all well and good, of course, but we must also deal with domestic politics. Even the most stubborn Nashi people do not believe in fairy tales about the good king and evil boyars.
    1. Averias
      Averias 10 December 2015 10: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: Belousov
      A couple of weeks ago, our Samara-Mordovian governor Merkushkin went to Putin for a report, said that he would transfer the lower and middle class officials to Lada Vesta (doesn’t it remind anyone?),

      To hell with them, with cars. Let ride on behi and Lexus. Only now fraud, nepotism, squeezing money from everywhere, and so on and so forth, let them stop doing it. Instead of developing a plan for the favorable development of the region, they are developing another plan - a corruption scheme for the withdrawal of money and enrichment. Wherever you look, nepotism and affection. We built a snow-melting plant, it seems like good, but only now they unobtrusively (and almost ultimatum) indicate who should work with for the removal of snow and its disposal.
      1. Belousov
        Belousov 10 December 2015 11: 45 New
        +4
        Speaking of a snowmaking plant. It seems to us in Samara in 2012. in the month of June, the city administration deducted expenses for ... SNOW DELIVERY !!!
        And now, if there is a chocolate factory "Russia" in the city and a dozen smaller producers, sweets for children's parties are bought ... correctly, in the city of Saransk. The quality of this product is terribly reminiscent of plasticine. Last year, I had to throw out the whole gift, inedible even to adults, not to mention children.
        1. 8 inches
          8 inches 10 December 2015 12: 17 New
          0
          Our factories in Russia now too ... recall a certain substance ..
      2. Belousov
        Belousov 10 December 2015 11: 45 New
        0
        Speaking of a snowmaking plant. It seems to us in Samara in 2012. in the month of June, the city administration deducted expenses for ... SNOW DELIVERY !!!
        And now, if there is a chocolate factory "Russia" in the city and a dozen smaller producers, sweets for children's parties are bought ... correctly, in the city of Saransk. The quality of this product is terribly reminiscent of plasticine. Last year, I had to throw out the whole gift, inedible even to adults, not to mention children.
  • 97110
    97110 10 December 2015 09: 42 New
    -1
    then law enforcement officers have more than a reason to check.
    They will come, cheeks will be inflated, they will put an office for cancer and ... what? The country has a well-maintained democratic society of the most favorable to impudent and unscrupulous people. Imagine for a moment that, following the calls of "fighters against bureaucracy", we resort to saving rigor. We shoot everyone who ... What will be enough to shoot? Revolutionary instinctive instincts? Have you dealt with neighbors who are not making mandatory payments? Or pay sky-high communal and hope for personal GDP? In the country of CAPITALISM! Man to man WOLF, WOLF and WOLF! After shooting officials, do not change anything in the country. New ones will sit on the vacated seats, which are 1. hungry, 2. know that they will be shot, they will steal arrogantly. And Putin will not do anything to us, because we ourselves do not want and are not trying to do it. What, in Gorky, is the same for everyone about the voiced facts? Already the publication shows that not everyone. A letter of GDP will be returned to the Ministry of Health of the region, which, in order to prepare an answer to the PRESIDENT (!), Will require an explanation from a good looking woman. Everything will sink into a pile of papers, and the children will also be accommodated in the NKVD (Nizhny Novgorod Dermato-Venereal Dispensary). The president established the NF. The second attempt to conduct a bloodless revolution after the establishment of Spoross. I admit, I look at what is happening without optimism. Never bourgeois will not give back their back-breaking labor without a fight. Even if we write a complaint to the President about him. And the official must comply with the LAW (without forgetting himself, of course). He performs. Otherwise, a moment at sea. Laws are written by the Sovereign Duma. They’ll deal with buggers, they’ll take care of medicine. A lot of work. Hands will not reach our questions in the foreseeable future.
  • papanya59
    papanya59 10 December 2015 09: 43 New
    -2
    I advise everyone to watch less REN-TV.
  • worldofpain
    worldofpain 10 December 2015 09: 44 New
    +5
    The article is not more relevant today, but as to the fact that the reform of medicine was specially planned not in the interests of the people, but in the interests of individuals lobbying for private medicine, this is obvious. These problems are known in the government, but they are cynically silent and it scares ...
  • guzik007
    guzik007 10 December 2015 09: 46 New
    +2
    In addition to yesterday's article about the iPhone:
    -------------------------------------------------- ----

    Sergey Markov: big changes are ahead - a revolt against the government has ripened in "United Russia"
    10th of December 2015
    Political scientist, member of the Civic Chamber of the Russian Federation Sergey Markov on his page on the social network commented on yesterday’s meeting of the liberal platform of the party “United Russia:

    “I am on the Liberal Platform of United Russia. A riot has clearly ripened here, and this riot against the government is already underway.

    A group of politicians, industrialists and experts, leaders of the platform, requires a sharp change in the economic course of the government and a change in its economic bloc. It is openly stated that the government does not allow the economy to develop, but only waits for the price of oil to rise and relations with the West to improve.

    The essence of the new economic policy that is being proposed is the new industrialization. The main change that is being proposed is to print money, a lot of money (so that there is 3 times more money in the economy than now) and transfer it directly to the economy, primarily to industry, and especially to modern high-tech campaigns.

    The crowded hall of the elite is crowded, everyone understands that there are big changes ahead and everyone wants to understand in which direction these changes will go. ”

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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 December 2015 09: 50 New
      0
      Quote: guzik007
      The main change that is proposed is to print money, a lot of money (so that there is 3 times more money in the economy than now) and transfer it directly to the economy, especially to industry, and especially to modern high-tech campaigns.

      Ahahaha, well, actually out. Although I remember it already happened, though then a pack of Kamal cost 5000 rebels laughing
      1. cap
        cap 10 December 2015 13: 30 New
        0
        If the whole country (by the way, Ukraine with a galloping hryvnia and in the back breathing default) will sit at home and receive benefits, a pack of "Prima" will cost 50000 rubles.
        Comrade had in mind an infusion into the economy, this is not an infusion into nothing.
        This is an elementary planning of production and consumption, not excluding the private owner in the framework of state-owned companies.
        This impot substitution is so ripe today, well, you understand.
        Unsecured money is really a great evil.
        For this whole process, ALL authorities exist.
        First of all, the government.
        Siluanov even estimates the work of his department to the prime minister in dollars.
        And the mantra about the price of oil is already sore.
        There are no enthusiasts in their field. There are officials and judging by the controversy on the site is not very competent.
        In Russia there was a good saying in my opinion it will be correctly understood.
        "What a pop is such a parish"
        Aleksanr Romanov’s parish is good, that’s why there’s nothing to blaspheme him, he’s not a pop, he has to answer for the whole parish.
        Otherwise, we ourselves are bad.
        And in conclusion, a little optimism. Also the saying, "The flour will be crushed."
        Something like that hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 11 December 2015 05: 56 New
          0
          Quote: cap
          This is an elementary planning of production and consumption, not excluding the private owner in the framework of state-owned companies.
          This impot substitution is so ripe today, well, you understand.

          These are the economists who ruled our country in the 90s, you don’t get smarter.
        2. 97110
          97110 11 December 2015 08: 47 New
          0
          Quote: cap
          a bit of optimism. Also the saying, "The flour will be crushed."

          Meat and bone?
  • xorgi
    xorgi 10 December 2015 09: 48 New
    -6
    Honestly, we got the calls "Transplant thieves, remove dumbasses from the bosses!" Answer me two questions:
    1. Who will determine: a thief, a dumbass or a good one?
    2. Who will determine who to sit on the vacant official position?
    Personally Putin, personally Shoigu? Then will they have time for everything else if they personally will check all the officials? Their job is to create a workable system. Does the police work? Does the prosecutor's office work? Where are the appeals of citizens? And do not tell me that they are all the same! Collect a million signatures and contact the prosecutor! And there is still a bunch of structures, political and social movements. What money do you feel sorry for a lawyer? Or za.d.nitsu tear off the computer with tanks laziness ?!
    1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations 10 December 2015 10: 18 New
      +5
      Quote: xorgi
      What a pity for a lawyer?


      They wrote a collective complaint to the prosecutor’s office of the Russian Federation against the local administration in the city. The prosecutor's office of the Russian Federation decided to deal with the complaint to the prosecutor's office of the republic. The prosecutor's office of the republic decided to deal with the complaint and make a decision to the city prosecutor's office. The wife of an official from the local administration works at the city prosecutor’s office.
      Guess what will be the decision on the complaint to the prosecutor's office of the Russian Federation. As they say from the spot, so be it. Though milen signatures collect and send up. And now even on the complainants are under pressure from the administration - write a refusal, otherwise kaput!
      1. xorgi
        xorgi 10 December 2015 10: 42 New
        +2
        AND? further what actions? sit and not rock the boat? or wait for the arrival of aliens? Where are the other calls? Where is the media publication about the official’s wife? Of course, they won’t miss the first one, but on this resource you can post such information. I repeat there are a bunch of organizations where you can go, including various internal ones where you can go to the police or prosecutors.
        By the way, if you press it means to be afraid!
      2. Azitral
        Azitral 10 December 2015 12: 49 New
        0
        And you write in the Guardian or Le Monde. Take off - it’s in question, but they’ll give it to the head. Type: "Sanctions - GIVE results. Russian health care is torn to shreds !!!". They will print. And the result will be.
        1. xorgi
          xorgi 10 December 2015 14: 26 New
          -3
          Well, of course, it is better to write anonymously on the Internet, but openly speak that the intestines can’t stand it?
    2. 97110
      97110 11 December 2015 08: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: xorgi
      Or za.d.nitsu tear off the computer with tanks laziness ?!

      Judging by your minuses, the great Azerbaijani poet Mirza Shafi was right when he said, "A mortal will forgive a mortal. He will not forgive the truth." Reproduced from memory, errors are possible in the name, and in the text, and in nationality, and in greatness. But the meaning remains.
  • Papapg
    Papapg 10 December 2015 09: 48 New
    +5
    Whether it will still be oh oh oh, it's like in a proverb, make a fool pray to God, so he will break his head. This is the “karma” of the country, they optimized the collective farm markets, instead of them trading networks, optimized the villages - the fields grow, when they grow - there is no one to uproot, they dug up all the winding roads into the forest, optimized the uranium processing plant, 17 thousand remained instead , the rest in free swimming, there are personnel, there is production space and replacement is required under sanctions, silence. It seems to me that this is all a lie, that on TV and in the press, it’s just that Beria did not finish it. Just imagine - Beria has risen with the apparatus, the descendants will again say - repressions, so that the state apparatus works - it must be periodically "cleaned". No, the cow will not give more milk, if the bull is beaten in the testicles, it is necessary to feed the cow.
    1. 97110
      97110 11 December 2015 08: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Papapg
      Beria with the apparatus has risen, the descendants will again say - represii

      Do you have personal memories of Beria, or do you use sources of interested authors? 140 million weavers, daughters of the Nikolaev soldiers - an occasion to talk about repressions?
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 10 December 2015 09: 50 New
    11
    And in another hospital, 7 lemons were cut by glavnyuki for premiums, and the people were 5-7 ty. gets. What is it like ?
    1. anip
      anip 10 December 2015 12: 24 New
      +6
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      And in another hospital, 7 lemons were cut by glavnyuki for premiums, and the people were 5-7 ty. gets. What is it like ?

      This is Putin's economy.
  • Mera joota
    Mera joota 10 December 2015 09: 53 New
    +7
    Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! Stop the thieves, remove the dumbassies from the high-ranking armchairs! And our Russian people will turn such mountains that no one else can do it. I want to believe that not immediately, but it turns out!

    So he then will be bored without friends then ...
  • nemec55
    nemec55 10 December 2015 09: 58 New
    +2
    In medicine, a deadlock is paid (the whole ass is licked out) and free where the fittest survives (they are so exhausted that it’s better to put it in the forehead)
    He was lying in a free house the other day and was very surprised at the presence of the 220 socket and the prohibition of categorical use of it (charging the phone) request
  • Snail N9
    Snail N9 10 December 2015 10: 02 New
    +4
    Oh come on. For some reason, everyone “forgot” (or pretend that they “forgot”) how our President loudly intended to make Russia an effective “company” along with a “cohort” (cooperative "Lake") effective managers. He did not refuse those plans, do not think. And in an “effective” company, as you know, everything is “imprisoned” for profit — an expense item is always “at a minimum”. In principle, this is "not a problem" if "managers" know how to make money, alas, those "managers" who are "at the helm," just don’t know how to make money, they "look into the mouth of the IMF, sit on the pipe" , are engaged in "optimization" (that is, "reduction") of expenses and wait for the "Martian" to come and create a "new, effective" economy for them).
  • Million
    Million 10 December 2015 10: 08 New
    +5
    Putin is good and the government is bad. So it happens?
    1. anip
      anip 10 December 2015 12: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Million
      Putin is good and the government is bad. So it happens?

      For U-Putriots, yes.
  • Fibrizio
    Fibrizio 10 December 2015 10: 09 New
    +7
    Why look for the machinations of the West? Sat on the commodity economy. Raw materials fell in price. The budget has shrunk. Blaming specific officials who implement commands from above is just as stupid as a controller taking a fine from you on a bus, or a cashier at McDonald's, which is expensive.
    The authorities have been in power for the last 15 years, and there is no 5th column. All questions go there.
  • WHEEL
    WHEEL 10 December 2015 10: 10 New
    +5
    Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! Transplant thieves, remove dumbasses from bosses!

    faith in a good king and bad boyars is unshakable!
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 10 December 2015 11: 05 New
      -2
      I read, I read criticism, I was tired, but I understood what the president needed to do. They’ll put local critics in officials’s chairs, they already know what to do, and if they don’t manage, shoot or bury them alive. From so.
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 10 December 2015 11: 59 New
        0
        I understand if you disagree, you don’t agree, it’s against the wall.
  • DenZ
    DenZ 10 December 2015 10: 10 New
    +8
    It is related to medicine. Everything described in the article is just a grain of the lawlessness that is happening in this area. Cronyism rules. The Minister of Health of the Sverdlovsk Region — a brother of Sobyanin’s wife — was the head physician of one of the clinics in the Tyumen Region — he came to us as a minister. In the ministry-lawlessness-the dismissals of chief doctors in the region and in the city occur on a stream basis. And people are dismissed quite worthy. I talk a lot with doctors, both ordinary and with leaders. Everyone is already just groaning from such a leadership and at the same time they understand that being indignant is useless and instantly "optimizing" What has already happened to my good friend, my friend. That's it. A small episode nationwide ...
  • Koshel2901
    Koshel2901 10 December 2015 10: 11 New
    +4
    Another six months, and the people will begin to complain, actions in foreign policy run counter to inaction in internal affairs, and this is dangerous. Mr. President, you are standing on the very edge.
    1. iouris
      iouris 10 December 2015 10: 26 New
      +3
      The "power" ministries are subordinate to the president. "Social" is the prerogative of the prime minister. "People" is a means, not an end. He is supposed to grumble. After globalization is completed, governments can only maintain a living wage at the subsistence level by reducing the size of this population. Money for “projects” in all countries comes from pension funds. We are in trend.
      1. xorgi
        xorgi 10 December 2015 14: 30 New
        0
        The people themselves must do something, and not everyone on their own, but all together. And not only be able to clutch at the club, but also to build, without the authorities and the government itself.
      2. xorgi
        xorgi 10 December 2015 14: 30 New
        0
        The people themselves must do something, and not everyone on their own, but all together. And not only be able to clutch at the club, but also to build, without the authorities and the government itself.
  • zekaze1980
    zekaze1980 10 December 2015 10: 16 New
    +2
    It’s even right, and indeed why medicine is needed, these are just waste. And kindergartens are such nonsense, unite with schools, and schools with universities, etc.
    Keep it up! Officials respect you, parasites
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 10 December 2015 10: 18 New
    +2
    "Children's departments in hospitals in several Russian regions have been closed. Now children and adults are in the same wards, despite the diseases. Doctors call changes compaction and optimization.

    How much can you endure these liberating .. total experiments! It is high time for all these "effective managers" - the OPTIMIZERS themselves to optimize, so that their spirit is not in power!
  • Humpty
    Humpty 10 December 2015 10: 19 New
    +2
    If this nonsense is not stopped, then absolutely trouble will be. Like in China. There have been optimized ..., I will try without emotions. I recall an example from my life, I had to somehow put a German one there in a hospital with a heart attack. First, the one who, in theory, was supposed to do this, disappeared, then later, later, in his same hut, he lined up. I don’t know about the amount of money, the Germans paid. Ward for 4 beds, the most common. On 2 lay elderly Uyghurs, on one of our wards, one bunk was empty. On the floor on the mattress lay some kind of grandmother. The German came to his senses more or less, and the Chinese bought him a plane ticket, wrapped them up like sticky with 2 transfers from the west of China to the coast, then to Germany.
    If you do not break off the optimizers, then you can go down to the Chinese.
    1. Koshak
      Koshak 11 December 2015 04: 38 New
      0
      So there are a lot of Chinese, so they’re “violet” plus or minus a million - it’s just an error