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Tatarstan as one of the goals of "friends of Russia"

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On the portal EurAsia Daily A few days after the Turkish attack on the Russian Su-24M bomber, the material of political scientist Ayrat Galimzyanov came out under the heading “Russian-Turkish conflict and Tatarstan: who are you, President Minnikhanov?” The author of the material is inclined to say that the authorities of Tatarstan do not want to take the path of confrontation with Turkish "partners", and therefore no harsh statements about Ankara will not allow themselves. According to the author of the material in the above-mentioned source, the leadership of the Republic of Tatarstan, through controlled mass media, is trying to promote the idea that pragmatic cooperation with Turkey is better and more effective than sanctions and other restrictive measures that the Russian Federation is taking against Ankara, even in spite of frankly dastardly stab in the back, as was the case with the Su-24, was named by Russian President Vladimir Putin.


Airat Galimzyanov writes that in Tatarstan about 26% of all foreign investment projects are Turkish, and therefore even when civilian activists decided to organize an action at the walls of the Turkish consulate general in Kazan after a Turkish strike on a Russian plane, at some point they tried to disperse the people gathered for expression protest against the actions of the Turkish authorities. Ultimately, overclocking did not take place, but, as they say, the fact itself ...

Representatives of the republic’s business are also not ready to abandon economic relations with Turkey, apparently believing that the incident in the skies of Syria and the death of Russian military personnel is not something that could harm bilateral contacts. At the same time, some representatives of big business in the republic believe that a kind of “patriotic hysteria” is being pumped up in Russia.

The article contains a statement by the chairman of the Tatarstan Chamber of Commerce and Industry Shamil Ageyev:
Tatarstan needs to maintain friendly relations with Turkey. (...) Forcing the atmosphere of the so-called “patriotic hysterism” is not so correct.


The same Ayrat Galimzyanov, in his material, reports that in Tatarstan local radicals from the number of Islamist organizations and other pseudo-patriotic structures feel quite freely.

Tatarstan as one of the goals of "friends of Russia"


Of course, those who, being regional officials (and not only, apparently, regional) level, tend to whisper about the fact that the counter-terrorist operation in Syria, they say, was generally started in vain, that it was necessary to sit quietly and quietly, not to annoy Western (or the same Turkish) partners, lacking not only in Tatarstan. And their frost-bitten from among the pseudo-religious fanatics, in addition, obuyannyh ideas of ultra-nationalism, there is not only in Kazan, Naberezhnye Chelny and other major cities of the Republic of Tatarstan. Enough of such and in Moscow, and in St. Petersburg and, as they say, on the periphery.

At the same time, it is difficult not to notice that for some time Tatarstan has become a kind of Internet target for all sorts of large, medium and small extremist groups that publish materials in the network, which are expressed in attempts to destabilize the situation in a fairly prosperous republic. And the authorities of the republic, by definition endowed with the powers to protect the constitutional order, should pay attention to this in order not to allow an extremist conglomerate to solve its destructive tasks, using a relatively timid official position. One would like to hope that the official position in this respect looks shy only externally, and that in terms of confronting destructive ideas in the republic, everything is said to be grasped.

Further, if so to speak, purely information for reference.

So, as already noted, a considerable number of groups divorced in social networks, whose organizers have as their goal a clear shaking of the situation in the same Tatarstan. They do not show themselves loudly, however, it is difficult to call this activity very quiet. Attention is drawn to, for example, the fact that some groups dedicated to political processes in the Republic of Tatarstan broadcast exclusively in foreign languages.
So, on Facebook, there’s a group called Free tatarstan (link for obvious reasons, the "VO" is not given), "informing" users in German. The group is not particularly eager to hide the focus of its activities, and this activity is revealed in the abstract, looking (in translation) as follows:

Tatars (Turkic people) and other minorities in Russia have been suppressed for a long time, terrorized and systematically exterminated!


Further, the authors of this group of openly extremist sense are followed by a call for “the liberation of Tatarstan”. In general, I see ...

Among acquaintances, there are quite a few Tatars who declare that this kind of crazy propaganda about the “systematically exterminated Tatars in Russia” has been raining for more than a year. At the same time, the use of a foreign language indicates that the appeal does not go to the Tatars, who in the vast majority perfectly understand the absurdity of the above statements, but to the foreign absorber of media content.

Question: Why is it that the German language was chosen for broadcasting lies with obvious extremist overtones? In principle, in the group itself this is indirectly explained. The “creative team” of the group on the social network talks about 10 to millions of Russian citizens with Turkic roots who “need to start liberating.” Given the fact that most of the refugees come to the same Germany through Turkey, as well as the fact that millions of Turks live in Germany (the second largest ethnic group of the Federal Republic of Germany after the Germans themselves), the group "as if hints" who can be used to loosen the situation in the same Tatarstan.

The Facebook group talks about the need to “necessarily support” Muslims in Tatarstan, because Muslim rights are “infringed” at every step ...

However, as it turns out, the extremist Facebook game has not only European subscribers. Under the slogans of the grouping, some citizens of the Russian Federation, including residents of the Republic of Tatarstan, also post their posts in the network. This is a whole hornet's nest, settled in a social network and working in one direction. There are residents of Naberezhnye Chelny with university manners in it, there are Kazanians, Ufimtsy, Muscovites. Moreover, all this camarilla goes to the notorious Djemilevsky "Majlis", which becomes yet another proof of foreign financing of this destructive process based on the internal Russian radicals.

There are many names, and these people willingly share their "success" on the web. So, for example, it is told about how “teachers from India on dogma and Muslim law are invited to Kazan for lectures in Arabic among the imams of the Volga Federal District”. Imams, it turns out, are provided with full board - if only they would come to a meeting with Arabic-speaking Indian teachers ... The main thing is lectures in Arabic ... In Tatarstan ... You can only guess what exactly the lectures are about.

All this to the fact that at one far from perfect moment we are amused how this very easy DAISH managed to recruit Moscow student from Moscow State University Varvara Karaulov, or how an imperceptible guy from Noyabrsk suddenly found himself in Syria and turned into a hangman of a terrorist group. Yes, just like that — through the same uncontrolled groups in social networks, there is a stream of anti-Russian propaganda, under the rink of which not only people with dubious biographies and quite successful citizens get with prosperity, good education, and knowledge of their business.

Only one conclusion: do not yawn. Neither in Kazan, nor in Chelny, nor in Noyabrsk, nor in Moscow! Any yawn is, in essence, a human life - today or tomorrow. Are there too many lives of Russians who took the soul catchers using extremism as an ideology of contention? ..
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  1. bad
    bad 9 December 2015 06: 17
    11
    However, as it turns out, the extremist Facebook game has not only European subscribers. Under the slogans of the grouping, some citizens of the Russian Federation, including residents of the Republic of Tatarstan, also post their posts in the network. This is a whole hornet's nest, settled in a social network and working in one direction. There are residents of Naberezhnye Chelny with university manners in it, there are Kazanians, Ufimtsy, Muscovites. Moreover, all this camarilla goes to the notorious Djemilevsky "Majlis", which becomes yet another proof of foreign financing of this destructive process based on the internal Russian radicals.
    ... the FSB will figure out to whom, what, what, and what ... give time .. am
    1. Enot-poloskun
      Enot-poloskun 9 December 2015 07: 08
      27
      Rocking Tatarstan is the blue dream of hawks from Europe and the USA.

      But!

      1) Tatarstan has no common borders with any foreign state.

      2) Features of the rule of terrorists in the occupied territories - a good vaccine from the love of ISIS.

      3) Another vaccination is events in Ukraine. What, Tatars will exchange a quiet life (albeit relatively calm) for a paramilitary state? Hardly.

      4) In Crimea, we agreed with the Tatars. Thanks to the Tatars from Tatarstan. Questions?
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 9 December 2015 08: 08
        21
        Quote: Enot-poloskun
        Another vaccine is events in Ukraine. What, Tatars will exchange a quiet life (albeit relatively calm) for a paramilitary state? Hardly.

        There is always a separate category of citizens who can exchange someone else's peace of mind for their personal account in a Swiss bank. Throw in fanatics, Islamic orthodox and religious leaders with Saudi education, and here you have a "critical mass." Any mass riots begin with individual IDIOs.
        Quote: Enot-poloskun
        In Crimea, we agreed with the Tatars. Thanks to the Tatars from Tatarstan. Questions?

        The Crimean Tatars were motivated not by words, but by concrete deeds with the granting of specific property rights to each Crimean Tatar, which the Tatar (Kazan) leaders could not give without the federal authorities. Although I do not deny their help. But there is "basic" and there is "additional".
        In general, both in Tatarstan, and in Bashkiria, and in the Caucasus for the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs the work is "a car and a small cart". Islamism, like cancer, must be purged from microscopic manifestations to a sterile state.
        1. Val_y
          Val_y 9 December 2015 10: 02
          +7
          There is always a separate category of citizens capable of exchanging other people's peace of mind for their personal account in a Swiss bank.
          But these "categories" should be identified by the special services in a timely manner, since radicals and fanatics are essentially frostbitten hooligans, and without appropriate leadership they do not represent any force. So that... hi
        2. alex86
          alex86 9 December 2015 22: 10
          0
          Quote: ARES623
          Tatar (Kazan) figures

          Generally speaking, the Kazan and Crimean Tatars have only a name in common - there are difficulties even in communication. These are very different peoples, and they did not react very well to ours in Crimea. And trying to use Kazan for dialogue showed only the incompetence of those who tried to establish this dialogue.
      2. ZU-23
        ZU-23 9 December 2015 08: 17
        +7
        Now, if a Tatar had been a pilot of a damaged SU-24m, Minnikhanov would probably have looked differently. I hope the FSB is in the know about the situation, it is necessary to plant in time according to Russian laws.
      3. sherp2015
        sherp2015 9 December 2015 08: 40
        28
        Quote: Enot-poloskun
        Rocking Tatarstan is the blue dream of hawks from Europe and the USA.


        At one time in the USSR was the strongest special service of the KGB. With her, everyone respected proletarian internationalism, the FSB was far from her, and then ... (c) they ravaged the country in the 91st.
        "Vaccination" is necessary from nationalism to those who should, otherwise the FSB can only press Russians under Article 282 for massive jogging in T-shirts with the inscription "Russian means sober."
        1. Down House
          Down House 9 December 2015 12: 21
          +2
          Quote: sherp2015
          in the USSR was the strongest special service of the KGB

          Yes, yes, and the separatism of the 90s apparently arose from scratch without any historical background.
          1. Volzhanin
            Volzhanin 9 December 2015 15: 05
            +2
            Separatism has always been, is and will be. It was just that in the USSR they skillfully poked him on the nose, and in the 90s, during the time of the Jews, they either kindled him on purpose, or did not pay attention - “let them cut each other,” which happened throughout the country.
        2. adept666
          adept666 9 December 2015 21: 04
          +1
          otherwise the FSB can only press Russians under Article 282 for massive jogging in T-shirts with the words "Russian means sober."
          Even if you want to attract someone in Tatarstan under this article, it is not a fact that you will succeed because:
          In the event of a contradiction between the federal law and the regulatory legal act of the Republic of Tatarstan, issued on the subjects of the Republic of Tatarstan, the regulatory legal act of the Republic of Tatarstan shall apply.
      4. Volzhanin
        Volzhanin 9 December 2015 14: 45
        +2
        Well, firstly, in Tatarstan, half of the inhabitants are not Tatars.
        Secondly, they are far from all Muslims.
        Thirdly, in Tatarstan one of the highest living standards in Russia, and in the Volga region, the highest.
        Fourth, there is one of the most powerful industrial clusters.

        There is no time for them, by and large, to engage in garbage - you need to work, you need to make candy from the republic.
        And in Bashkiria the same thing.
      5. What a
        What a 9 December 2015 20: 59
        0
        5) The Golden Horde at one time kicked in the ass of the Turks, the Tatars remember this very well and they certainly will not go under them.
      6. lopvlad
        lopvlad 10 December 2015 02: 36
        +1
        Rock Tatarstan

        it’s easy and this will not be the merit of hawks from the USA, but a huge number of preachers of radical Islam in the mosques of Tatarstan. There is no special opposition from the authorities of Tatarstan to this.

        Until now, he had not parted with the idea of ​​a state independent of Russia in Tatarstan. He actually had it before Putin arrived (until the early 2000s, Tatarstan paid nothing to the Russian budget and the Tatarstan Constitution still contradicts the Russian Constitution in some aspects). In Tatarstan, there is still a post of president of Tatarstan, which is not in one of the republics. Moreover, deputies from Tatarstan have lobbied in the Duma to leave this post.

        Quote: Enot-poloskun
        In Crimea, we agreed with the Tatars. Thanks to the Tatars from Tatarstan. Questions?


        ridiculed. Tatars from Tatarstan were negotiating with representatives of the Crimean Tatar Mejelis.
        Those same people who are behind the explosion of power transmission line poles in the Crimea. Those who are now threatening to blow up an underwater energy bridge in the Crimea.
        That is, they were negotiating with the radicals and these negotiations failed. Then the Russian special services got down to business and put things in order in the Crimea.

        Tatarstan is a bomb that will inevitably explode.
    2. vkl-47
      vkl-47 9 December 2015 08: 35
      +7
      Department K needs less sleep. Lock and block all extremist resources. Calculate by IP addresses and liquidate. Otherwise, it will be too late. It’s a lot of stupid thing that nothing happens.
    3. Belousov
      Belousov 9 December 2015 08: 55
      +1
      This has been going on for more than a year, with absolutely no hiding. So either the FSB does not see anything (a question about the qualifications of employees) or does nothing. As they say, make your own conclusions.
    4. Belousov
      Belousov 9 December 2015 08: 55
      +3
      This has been going on for more than a year, with absolutely no hiding. So either the FSB does not see anything (a question about the qualifications of employees) or does nothing. As they say, make your own conclusions.
      1. TanyaKar
        TanyaKar 9 December 2015 17: 27
        +1
        Or maybe they are keeping an eye on the sly ... There is a wise saying in the east: "If you are a fox, I am your evost" ...
        Let the little boys run more actively .... Sudoplatovs in the country did not go extinct, do not worry.
        1. Belousov
          Belousov 9 December 2015 18: 19
          +1
          Something Iosif Vissarionovich and Lavrenty Pavlovich did not engage in such "expectations", but did business. And they did well.
        2. Belousov
          Belousov 9 December 2015 18: 19
          0
          Something Iosif Vissarionovich and Lavrenty Pavlovich did not engage in such "expectations", but did business. And they did well.
    5. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 9 December 2015 09: 39
      +4
      ...... The FSB will figure out to whom, what, what, and what ... give time ..

      ... And before that, what did ?????? ..... All are waiting for .... And why ??? .... request
      1. forumow
        forumow 9 December 2015 10: 07
        +6
        Such believers, due to the power and wisdom of the "organs", were in the USSR in the early 1990s. AND....?!
        The latest example of IT is the situation in Ukraine, which had developed there by the beginning of 2014. But the Russian special services, since the beginning of the presidency of VVP - their former colleague and boss, are not at all in the "corral", but on the contrary in favor. What did they do, as well as diplomacy? We rested on our laurels, it is not clear for what merits ?! While the overseas colleagues were doing "business", THERE was at their side!
    6. Nick1953
      Nick1953 9 December 2015 15: 39
      +2
      Oh oh And this is with our judicial system, which is one huge organized crime community?
  2. TanyaKar
    TanyaKar 9 December 2015 06: 26
    26
    And what, can the authorities of Tatarstan have a separate policy different from the general policy of a country called Russia?
    The independence and freedom of the regions does not mean "I do what I want and as it seems to me, but your business is just to raise your eyebrows in surprise" ...
    It's time for a long time - to tidy up order in all regions. Fake liberalism will not lead to anything good. It is time to conduct political information with the leaders of the regions.
    1. evgeny1979
      evgeny1979 9 December 2015 06: 39
      0
      I agree with you, but it’s time to ban freedom of speech too many advisers and various chatter are out of the question ...
      1. Comrade Bender
        Comrade Bender 9 December 2015 10: 24
        +8
        Do not confuse freedom of speech and speech of an extremist nature.
      2. Volzhanin
        Volzhanin 9 December 2015 15: 10
        0
        You don’t need to forbid freedom of speech - let everyone broadcast what they want, but at the same time do what is necessary to strengthen and prosper the Power, which is beneficial to the majority, and not to a handful of comprador oligarchs.
        1. TanyaKar
          TanyaKar 9 December 2015 17: 42
          +1
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      3. Bayun
        Bayun 9 December 2015 21: 23
        0
        I support. We need to clearly articulate the principles of Russian being. Human obligations are above rights. Responsibility for words is higher than freedom of speech. The law should be focused not on the fight against crooks, but on promoting honest ones.
    2. adept666
      adept666 9 December 2015 21: 05
      0
      And what, can the authorities of Tatarstan have a separate policy different from the general policy of a country called Russia?
      Maybe they have quite serious autonomy.
  3. strelets
    strelets 9 December 2015 06: 30
    +3
    So much money is being pumped into Kazan, the Tatars are so well fed that, I hope, none of them will behave. But you still can’t relax.
    1. Glot
      Glot 9 December 2015 06: 38
      +5
      So much money is being pumped into Kazan, the Tatars are so well fed that, I hope, none of them will behave. But you still can’t relax.


      Friendship is not bought. So that ...
      1. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 9 December 2015 17: 21
        +1
        Quote: Glot
        Friendship is not bought. So that ...

        Hungry and well-fed does not mean.
    2. sherp2015
      sherp2015 9 December 2015 08: 50
      0
      Quote: strelets
      So much money is being pumped into Kazan, the Tatars are so well fed that, I hope, none of them will behave. But you still can’t relax.


      This is surprising! Billions are dumping dough in Tatarstan, enterprises are being built, and in Russia everything is collapsing, even there are few normal (non-federal) roads. Everything is full of holes in areas, state-owned enterprises are almost gone or dilapidated. If there are new enterprises, then basically some sort of oligarch
      1. Glot
        Glot 9 December 2015 09: 42
        +5
        This is surprising! Billions are dumping dough in Tatarstan, enterprises are being built, and in Russia everything is collapsing, even there are few normal (non-federal) roads. Everything is full of holes in areas, state-owned enterprises are almost gone or dilapidated. If there are new enterprises, then basically some sort of oligarch


        Is there less in the Caucasus?
        It’s just that the authorities have relied on Muslims for a long time. Buys their loyalty. And the titular nation is (although whether it is the titular nation already is the question ??? !!) and somehow it gets out. Or take a break.
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 9 December 2015 09: 53
          +8
          Quote: Glot
          Is there less in the Caucasus?
          It’s just that the authorities have relied on Muslims for a long time. Buys their loyalty. And the titular nation is (although whether it is the titular nation already is the question ??? !!) and somehow it gets out. Or take a break.


          This is exactly what I’m talking about. Recently traveled from half of Russia and drew attention to:
          The Russian village is in the last place in financing compared to the republics .... I don’t speak about Tatarstan and Chechnya.
          Why such an injustice?
          Why does the government not respect the Russian people? Allows all sorts of Akhedzhakov, Basilashvil, Narusov Aleksievich and others to throw mud at the Russian people? Why are drunken Russian people lying on the streets closer to their hearts for the authorities than those leading a healthy lifestyle, even promoting sports jogging, who do not hesitate to say that he is Russian, wearing a T-shirt with the words "Russian means sober"?
          Why is haunting such people? What is the power afraid of?
          1. Glot
            Glot 9 December 2015 11: 35
            +7
            Why does the government not respect the Russian people? Allows all sorts of Akhedzhakov, Basilashvil, Narusov Aleksievich and others to throw mud at the Russian people? Why are drunken Russian people lying on the streets closer to their hearts for the authorities than those leading a healthy lifestyle, even promoting sports jogging, who do not hesitate to say that he is Russian, wearing a T-shirt with the words "Russian means sober"?


            Yes, there are many questions, can we only get the answers ...
            I would answer, but I'm afraid they will blame extremism and Nazism.
            But it really boiled up. Although a lot of patience, but he has a limit.
            And about T-shirts with the words "I am Russian" or "Russian means sober", everything is twofold. If we have a T-shirt with the inscription "I am Dagestan" or there is a Kazakh, and so on, then this is considered the norm, and if you walk in a T-shirt "I am a Russian", then you will have their own people, Russians will stare as if you don’t understand who. That's what's amazing. Or a sports town was set up in our yard. Horizontal bars, parallel bars and others. I go there in the evenings, so I also catch such surprised looks sometimes, like that he is here toiling with garbage. But the picture, when Russians are sitting on benches around in the evening and blowing pivas, looks organic and familiar and not condemned.
            So, often a lot depends on us, on our attitude and desire, and not on the Authorities.
            1. Down House
              Down House 9 December 2015 12: 36
              +4
              Quote: Glot
              I go there in the evenings, so I also catch such surprised looks at times, such as the fact that it’s garbage here.

              Well, I’ll explain this, the majority of athletes go to gyms, or have equipment at home - the horizontal bar is mainly the level of school physical training, it’s really strange to see an adult uncle in the school yard hi
              Quote: Glot
              But the picture when Russians sit around benches around in the evening and blow beer, looks organically and habitually and is not condemned.

              More than condemned by normal people, if this is the norm in your area, for example, transfer it to the private sector - you will forget about drunks at the entrance immediately fellow
              And yes, it’s they who thump themselves out of their laziness, that now the PTUshniki thumps, that the proletariat ate colognes in the USSR, that drunken sailors shot at RI — they pricked officers — PUTIN HAS NOTHING!
              1. Glot
                Glot 9 December 2015 13: 28
                +3
                Well, I’ll explain this, the majority of athletes go to gyms, or have equipment at home - the horizontal bar is mainly the level of school physical training, it’s really strange to see an adult uncle in the school yard


                What does the schoolyard have to do with it? I'm not talking about him. In our area, in almost every yard we have built complex sports grounds, some even indoor.
                The bottom line is how my second wife used to say:
                - A man should come from work not to go to the horizontal bar with bars, but to sit with a beer on the sofa in front of the TV set.
                Here in this phrase is the whole point of misunderstanding.

                More than condemned by normal people, if this is the norm in your area, for example, transfer it to the private sector - you will forget about drunks at the entrance immediately


                It depends on how private. And where is he.

                And yes, it’s they who thump themselves out of their laziness, that now the PTUshniki thumps, that the proletariat ate colognes in the USSR, that drunken sailors shot at RI — they pricked officers — PUTIN HAS NOTHING!


                So who is bringing this claim to Putin?
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          3. Down House
            Down House 9 December 2015 12: 31
            +6
            Quote: sherp2015
            The Russian village is in the last place in financing compared to the republics .... I don’t speak about Tatarstan and Chechnya.

            Come on, he drove around, apart from Tatarstan and Chechnya, we have another 100500 "national republics" and the overwhelming number of collapsed villages is no less than in the rest of Russia.
            And I will reveal to you the "secret" - the point is not in the mythical state financing of the regions, but in the specific leaders of these very regions - even in the Moscow region, when you enter a neighboring area as in another country, you sometimes enter, but here the whole regions are different!
            1. Dema46
              Dema46 9 December 2015 14: 03
              +9
              Down. Take a trip to Tatarstan and look carefully around. in villages poverty. in the villages in the mosque, few people walk, maybe on holidays. one thing is Babai with sons and Minikhanov with sons, another thing is ordinary people. if four idiots took a picture with something, then in the photo besides them no one is visible around. Someone who was not very smart Volodin wrote another vyser and then someone raised the question of the titular nation. definitely not warming our relationship with each other. where and in which territory of the title? us one title is a piece of bread and the speech of the Darkest. to the rest the rest. Do not get fooled by such provocation articles.
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          4. Rusich is not from Kiev
            Rusich is not from Kiev 9 December 2015 17: 24
            +2
            Quote: sherp2015
            The Russian village is in the last place in terms of financing compared to the republics

            That is, Russian villages in Tatarstan are not funded? In Tatarstan, Tatars are 48% of the total.
            Take a trip to Belgorod and ask why they have village norms, although they are not Muslims?
            1. mashine
              mashine 9 December 2015 21: 15
              0
              Agriculture has been preserved in Tatarstan, so the village is still alive. It's not about financing. The rest are the same problems: schools are closing down, villages are gradually becoming empty.
        2. Down House
          Down House 9 December 2015 12: 26
          0
          Quote: Glot
          Buys their loyalty.

          What's bad about it? This is a complex region, it requires additional attention - including economic.
          Quote: Glot
          And the titular nation - (although is it the titular nation already a question ??? !!) and somehow it will get out. Or take a break.

          Yes, it seems that no one died from hunger with our heads and hands and didn’t find ourselves on the street, but among the wealthy citizens the main and overwhelming mass also is somehow Russian!
          1. Glot
            Glot 9 December 2015 13: 36
            +2
            What's bad about it? This is a complex region, it requires additional attention - including economic.


            The bad thing is that purchased loyalty is a very unreliable thing. She can be outbid at any moment. And then, a knife in the back is money down the drain.

            Yes, it seems that no one died from hunger with our heads and hands and didn’t find ourselves on the street, but among the wealthy citizens the main and overwhelming mass also is somehow Russian!


            Well, it may seem so to you from the private sector that everything is fine. From somewhere, from the inner perimeter of Barvikha or Rublevka.
            And here I am, Russians with an outstretched hand (literally) see every day. And not one or two. And different, and old people and children.
            1. Rusich is not from Kiev
              Rusich is not from Kiev 9 December 2015 17: 40
              +3
              Quote: Glot
              The bad thing is that purchased loyalty is a very unreliable thing. She can be outbid at any moment. And then, a knife in the back is money down the drain.

              So Russians are being bought too, and it’s easy to buy a beggar in general.
              Quote: Glot
              And here I am, Russians with an outstretched hand (literally) see every day. And not one or two. And different, and old people and children.

              Here is the real story from the 90s. We had neighbors Tatars. Ordinary family, urban and Muslimism and nationalism are not suffering. They also drank with us on holidays like us and all that. They spoke mainly Russian, but there were pure Tatars europiods. It so happened that they die within 4 years and their son Ratmir remains 15 years old. Their relatives came to the funeral, which I had never seen in my eyes.
              They sat down, talked and decided so. Ratmira takes one of the relatives wherever the guy wants to go to, his apartment (3 rooms) is rented out. Moreover, all things, furniture are pulled into one and locked. The money goes to the BOOK (card) and when he decides to live independently, they will give it to him. Ratmir left for the Moscow Region (although there was a relative in Nizhny Novgorod) and lived there until he was 20 years old. They fed him, watered, dressed for their money. He left the army and when he came (though he was offered to stay) he moved to his place. Relatives from the card (for rent) did not spend any kopecks. The guy already had money for a living.
              Here is the outstretched hand. How many Russians would do that? But the Tatars so accepted.
              1. Morrrow
                Morrrow 9 December 2015 19: 19
                +2
                In pre-revolutionary Russia, the Russian peasant community helped different families, and the nobility circles even more so. But the Bolsheviks came and spoiled the people by the cultural revolution.
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      2. gfs84
        gfs84 9 December 2015 11: 59
        +6
        This is surprising! Billions are dumping dough in Tatarstan, enterprises are being built, and in Russia everything is collapsing, even there are few normal (non-federal) roads. Everything is full of holes in areas, state-owned enterprises are almost gone or dilapidated. If there are new enterprises, then basically some sort of oligarch


        Have you looked at the list of donor regions for a long time?
        There is oil in the Republic of Tatarstan - the region feeds from it, the construction of the same TANECO is based on the budget of Tatneft (the Tatars could never make friends with the Bashkirs, therefore they sought to be independent in terms of petrochemicals). The roads do not differ from their neighbors (I compare them with Bashkiria, the Samara and Orenburg regions), in the same Almetyevsk there are two main roads in good condition (and this is for a moment the oil capital of the Republic of Tatarstan, where Tatneft and small oil companies are based), I’m silent about Bugulma this year just took a bit (and I lived there for 8 years).
        The only thing there is trying to spread the oil rent more or less evenly over the entire region and sectors of the economy. I think the region is lucky with "effective managers" who, at least a little, look into the future.
        The same Shaimiev - how much was bred into agriculture ...
        Although there are also enough excesses, the same Tatar language at school is compulsory for ALL regardless of the "clan-tribe", and 5 academic hours per week (is this normal ???), i.e. it turns out that children should learn 4 (four) languages ​​!!! (One of the reasons why they decided to move.)
        In Kazan, yes, they do not stab like a child, then they will come up with a 1000th anniversary, then a Universiade, only all this is collected at the expense of the periphery ... I myself studied at KSU during the preparation and celebration of the millennium, and saw perfectly how "lips were smeared" to the city .. ...
        Then the truth systematically approached the development of the city, the Universiade gave a great impetus ...
        1. Down House
          Down House 9 December 2015 12: 40
          -2
          Quote: gfs84
          Roads do not differ from neighbors (I compare with Bashkiria, Samara and Orenburg regions),

          You are not entirely right, if you take the "federal direction" - then in Tatarstan they are excellent, if the locals are from the same Almetyevsk (by the way, a very well-groomed and elegant city) to all sorts of Muslim-Bugulma (that is still a village), then yes, mostly slag like in neighbors hi
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      4. Down House
        Down House 9 December 2015 12: 24
        +2
        Quote: sherp2015
        Billions are being dumped into Tatarstan, enterprises are being built,

        Can you give more details? What other budget billions?
        And who is building the enterprise? Mercedes in conjunction with Kamaz? So this is a business, not a state structure!
        1. Morrrow
          Morrrow 9 December 2015 19: 20
          +1
          There are more preferences.
  4. V.ic
    V.ic 9 December 2015 06: 30
    +4
    "Idel - Ural" wieder? Hitler's case lives on, it turns out. For those who do not know: in the Wehrmacht / "Legion Idel-Ural" / natives of the specified region served the "der grosse fuhrer" faithfully.
    1. Mangel olys
      Mangel olys 9 December 2015 07: 10
      -7
      Not true! They did not make a single shot at their own people, unlike the Vlasovites.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 9 December 2015 08: 49
        +4
        Quote: Mangel Alys
        Not true! They are not a single shot in their did not, unlike the "Vlasov".

        Indeed, why should they shoot at Nazi evil, if swore allegiance to "great Germany and its leader"For some reason, Zaki Validov visited POW camps, probably not in order to raise future" legionaries "to fight the Nazis.
        1. Mangel olys
          Mangel olys 9 December 2015 08: 56
          -6
          Quote: V.ic
          Quote: Mangel Alys
          Not true! They are not a single shot in their did not, unlike the "Vlasov".

          Indeed, why should they shoot at Nazi evil, if swore allegiance to "great Germany and its leader"For some reason, Zaki Validov visited POW camps, probably not in order to raise future" legionaries "to fight the Nazis.

          Some ideologists can’t live without anti-Tatar rhetoric, and they periodically throw negative, apparently PR. Black ingratitude, along with aggressiveness, has also become part of Russian political culture.
          Well, and you ..., you just have not yet grown to their level. Like that "Pug" that barks at an elephant.
        2. Dema46
          Dema46 9 December 2015 14: 14
          +3
          and Vlasov is Vaki Zalid? and the Vlasovites were mostly not Russians? and any Cossack also Tatars-Bashkirs? how many times were these compared to the Idelevets, who really washed away from the Germans?
          1. Morrrow
            Morrrow 9 December 2015 19: 22
            +2
            In the ROA were all nations
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      2. Morrrow
        Morrrow 9 December 2015 19: 24
        +1
        Here it is Idel-Ural propaganda! We do not make heroic films about Vlasov.
    2. AID.S
      AID.S 9 December 2015 08: 01
      -2
      Quote: V.ic
      "Idel - Ural" wieder? Hitler's case lives on, it turns out. For those who do not know: in the Wehrmacht / "Legion Idel-Ural" / natives of the specified region served the "der grosse fuhrer" faithfully.

      Your commentary from the series "The main thing is to crow, but at least don't dawn there."
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 9 December 2015 08: 52
        -1
        Quote: AID.S
        Your comment from the series "The main thing is to crow, but at least don't dawn there"

        Rather yours. I know against whom Dayan Bayanovich Murzin (in the future "Black General") was working against in the Donbass occupied by the Germans.
        1. AID.S
          AID.S 9 December 2015 09: 31
          +3
          Quote: V.ic
          Rather yours. I know against whom Dayan Bayanovich Murzin (in the future "Black General") was working against in the Donbass occupied by the Germans.

          I understand that your knowledge of a particular person gives you grounds for accusing all (except Russian) residents of the national subjects of the Russian Federation of the Volga and Urals of fidelity to the ideas of Hitler and the desire for the collapse of the Russian Federation? I consider this a rash call for ethnic hatred and intolerance.
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 9 December 2015 10: 52
            0
            Quote: AID.S
            As I understand it, your knowledge of a particular person gives you grounds for accusing all (except Russian) residents of the national subjects of the Russian Federation of the Volga and Urals of fidelity to the ideas of Hitler

            Everyone understands the opponent in the light of their ideas. If you mentioned Zaki Validov, your angry speech would be like the truth. However, having mentioned Dayan Bayanovich Murzin, by the way, my fellow countryman, you simply mixed "warm with soft" in your phrase.
            Quote: AID.S
            I consider this a rash call for ethnic hatred and intolerance.

            Look in the illustration for the article at the faces of the "nationals" under the "zhovto-blakytny ensign". If you sympathize with them, then this flag is in your hands and "ort'gka" for "Censor".
            1. AID.S
              AID.S 9 December 2015 13: 15
              +3
              Quote: V.ic

              Everyone understands the opponent in the light of their ideas. If you mentioned Zaki Validov, your angry speech would be like the truth. However, having mentioned Dayan Bayanovich Murzin, by the way, my fellow countryman, you simply mixed "warm with soft" in your phrase.

              I really stopped understanding you, in my comments I didn’t mention anyone, you answered me that you know
              Quote: V.ic
              against whom did Dayan Bayanovich Murzin work

              Quote: V.ic
              Look in the illustration for the article at the faces of the "nationals" under the "zhovto-blakytny ensign". If you sympathize with them, then this flag is in your hands and "ort'gka" for "Censor".

              Indeed, there is no need to go to a closed censor to plunge into an atmosphere of intolerance. There are exactly the same comments about "quilted jackets, separatists, Colorado", and the arguments, or rather "proof" are exactly the same ("Look in the illustration to the article on faces ") and the photos are exactly the same, but, for example, with the flags of the Russian Federation, DNR. In general, filthy monsters ... in ganzen, die Untermenschen.
        2. Mangel olys
          Mangel olys 9 December 2015 10: 16
          +3
          Quote: V.ic
          Quote: AID.S
          Your comment from the series "The main thing is to crow, but at least don't dawn there"

          Rather yours. I know against whom Dayan Bayanovich Murzin (in the future "Black General") was working against in the Donbass occupied by the Germans.

          As in that saying: “I heard a ringing, but does not know where he is.” D.B. Murzin called the German command a “black general” for the enormous damage caused by his brigade. Hitler declared him his personal enemy and the Nazis promised 3 million Reichsmarks for his capture. Dayan Bayanovich Murzin was awarded the title of Hero of Czechoslovakia. The leadership of the USSR awarded him the Order of the Patriotic War of the 12st degree, many other orders and XNUMX medals, i.e. everyone can say, except for the Star of the Hero of the USSR.
          So you either really "float" on this issue, or deliberately mislead the people. Whose side are you on?
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 9 December 2015 10: 39
            0
            Quote: Mangel Olys
            So you either really "float" on this issue, or deliberately mislead the people. Whose side are you on?

            Flip through a couple of pages on the Internet? It is commendable, only that the mind on these pages was not handed out. To remove your drool from my tunic, I will cite for those reading these lines that D.B. Murzin, after being evacuated to the "mainland", studied at a special school in the village of Kushnarenkovo ​​BASSR, then he was transferred to the front line and worked on decomposition of security companies (from the mentioned "Khivi" in Donbass), then organized "partisan-Moldovan detachments" in the rear of the Romanian troops. And only after gaining great practical experience, he was abandoned as chief of staff on the territory of Slovakia.
            Quote: Mangel Olys
            As in that saying: "I heard a ringing, but does not know where he is"

            So you yourself have described.
            1. Mangel olys
              Mangel olys 9 December 2015 13: 18
              0
              Quote: V.ic
              So you yourself have described.

              “Making decisions without considering the consequences is the first degree of schizophrenia”

              Vladimir Mikhailovich Bekhterev
          2. terro
            terro 9 December 2015 14: 55
            0
            Yes, he is a troll. Maybe paid, maybe just stupid. While the phrase is typing, he forgets where he started.
        3. Down House
          Down House 9 December 2015 12: 54
          +4
          Quote: V.ic
          I know who Dayan Bayanovich Murzin was working against.

          There were traitors among all nationalities, if you want to choose the "most vicious", let's compare the number of representatives of the nationalities, their number in captivity, the number in the service in the Wehrmacht, the number in our army, the number of heroes of the USSR by nationality and deriving "complex arithmetic" to argue about the loyalty of individual peoples in a particular period hi
          But I will say this - since the time of Rurik, the "Tatars" had their own statehood of the "Arab model" on the territory of the modern Russian Federation, but despite this, throughout our joint history, I do not remember any national conflicts, but the "Tatar princes" by faith and serving the truth RI was enough!
    3. brr1
      brr1 9 December 2015 09: 26
      -7
      Well, yes, the Tatars themselves were the largest and most prominent part in the Wehrmacht. You are not too lazy and give statistics on national formations in the Wehrmacht. Maybe we all laugh together. For example, here you can see http://wiki.istmat.info/myth: how many_Russian_fought
      Hitler's side
    4. alexej123
      alexej123 9 December 2015 10: 11
      +6
      If you started to cite facts, then also give an example of Musa Jalil.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 9 December 2015 10: 40
        -4
        Quote: alexej123
        If you started to cite facts, then also give an example of Musa Jalil

        And which Urus passed it to the Gestapo?
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    6. Dema46
      Dema46 9 December 2015 14: 08
      0
      it is exact. only for example Vlasov and traitor warriors from various Cossack corps were orders of magnitude greater.
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      2. alexej123
        alexej123 9 December 2015 17: 41
        +2
        You know, if we calculate the percentage of nationalities and traitors among them, we ourselves will involuntarily turn out to be "Gebels' granddaughters." Yes, for the Cossacks, I myself am half a Kuban Cossack, painfully and disgustingly, for the same Krasnov, Shkuro and others. There were other examples. For me, my grandfather, also a Cossack, three years in captivity, escape, in the battles for Berlin the medal "For Courage", for the post-war labor the Order of the Badge of Honor. After all, there were others - Vera (Vicki) Obolenskaya, General Denikin, who never exchanged the concepts of the Motherland and the people for their own "Wishlist".
        1. Morrrow
          Morrrow 9 December 2015 19: 26
          0
          Do you think that Lenin did well with the Cossacks?
          1. vs_mihail
            vs_mihail 9 December 2015 23: 42
            0
            did the same in all Cossacks. only some fought for their homeland, while others were on the side of the enemy, justifying betrayal by the fight against Bolshevism
            1. Morrrow
              Morrrow 10 December 2015 09: 37
              0
              For the Cossacks, the Bolsheviks were enemies of the motherland.
              1. alexej123
                alexej123 16 December 2015 10: 55
                -1
                I disagree. The Cossacks, like the entire population of Russia, were divided between "white" and "red". By the way, "Quiet Don" perfectly shows this. Subsequently, those who were for the "whites" - some stopped resisting, some died, those who did not accept power - emigrated.
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  5. Jarilo
    Jarilo 9 December 2015 06: 36
    +2
    Something I want ... Belt!
  6. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 9 December 2015 06: 51
    11
    Tatarstan needs to maintain friendly relations with Turkey.


    Is there no need for Tatarstan to have friendly "relations" with Russia? Or did another prince think himself a padishah? It is necessary to periodically put in place, so that individual Russians are not forgotten ... And they remembered what they are part of and the interests of which country they represent !!! And then the authorities, in my opinion, clouded the brain of some "bright" representatives of Islam!
    1. Dema46
      Dema46 9 December 2015 14: 21
      +3
      Sergey Vladimirovich. an interesting question arises. why did Volodin decide that Minikhanov had to say something? here is our Perm Basargin did not say anything. Sverdlovsky also said nothing. leaders of Tuva, St. Petersburg, Pskov region not a word.
      and Minikhanov had something to say. nonsense.
    2. kush62
      kush62 9 December 2015 16: 38
      +2
      Sergey Vladimirovich (1) Today, 06:51 New
      Tatarstan needs to maintain friendly relations with Turkey.

      Is there no need for Tatarstan to have friendly "relations" with Russia? Or did another prince think himself a padishah? It is necessary to periodically put in place, so that individual Russians are not forgotten ... And they remembered what they are part of and the interests of which country they represent !!! And then the authorities, in my opinion, clouded the brain of some "bright" representatives of Islam!


      And on such a question you have thrown a bunch of pluses. Tatarstan is already a part of Russia. To be friends with myself. Original
      1. Morrrow
        Morrrow 9 December 2015 19: 27
        +1
        Crimea is also part of Russia. Compare the reaction of Aksenov and Minnikhanov.
  7. Ayujak
    Ayujak 9 December 2015 07: 05
    +1
    Yes, that is alarming. The organizers are sitting all over the hill. Although you transplant all performers and mongrels in the Russian Federation, tomorrow they will appear again. The flip side of globalization. Although you can try how in China to restrict access to social services. resources, but again, because of the scanty bunch of traitors the whole country will suffer. Yes, it is difficult to solve the problem, but it is necessary.
    Threat. Although think, if everything was critical, then the country would have been ruined long ago. So do not lose heart.
    1. oruskolanov
      oruskolanov 9 December 2015 07: 36
      12
      Until the Russian elite is in power in Russia, everything else is complete nonsense. I do not mean: -Russia for Russians !. No, Russia is for all the peoples of Russia. But the supreme power should be elites in equal shares of the population. As for feeding - under the USSR, all the republics except the central part of Russia were fed and fed. So what? Result? Only the lazy did not spit in the direction of the Russians and Russia. And now all "friends and partners". To whom and how much? You cannot feed strangers to the detriment of yourself. God forbid trouble comes, we will be alone with her, the lured will not help, only real friends will help. And we have them, friends do not shout and do not swear allegiance, they come and silently stand beside us. Side by side - shoulder to shoulder, that's what I believe.
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 9 December 2015 07: 20
    +3
    Are not too many lives of Russians taken by soul-catchers using extremism as an ideology of discord? ..... A lot ... but because "European values" have replaced the ideology of "totalitarianism" .. And the worst thing is that consumerism has eclipsed the minds ... which, like rust, eats up the mind ..
  9. Svetoch
    Svetoch 9 December 2015 07: 26
    12
    I wonder where the Tatars are exterminated and oppressed. For more than 20 years in the north I have lived side by side with the Tatars. There is no question of any harassment. My best friend there was a Tatar by the way. Are Muslims exterminated? Yes, in the same city that I lived, the mosque was built the same as the church. At different ends of the street. Where do such nonsense come from? This is a targeted diversionary work to undermine national unity. For this you need to go to jail and for a long time. These are extremist statements. soldier
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 9 December 2015 08: 55
      +2
      Quote: Svetoch
      . Where do such nonsense come from? This is a targeted diversionary work to undermine national unity. For this you need to go to jail and for a long time. These are extremist statements.


      And what am I talking about? Article 282 only works against Russians! To what extent the Russian authorities will put it mildly: they disrespect "the Russian people ...
      1. Down House
        Down House 9 December 2015 12: 58
        +1
        Quote: sherp2015
        What am I talking about? Article 282 only works against Russians!

        Nonsense!
        The only thing that can be said is only if there are more Russians convicted of her, it is only because there are significantly more Russians in general initially fellow
        Well, about the fact that terrorists and racists are usually planted under various articles and (more often) shot, it will also be useful for you to find out.
        1. Morrrow
          Morrrow 9 December 2015 19: 28
          +2
          It's true. No one in the Caucasus is involved in 282
      2. Garris199
        Garris199 9 December 2015 16: 50
        +1
        Quote: sherp2015
        And what am I talking about? Article 282 only works against Russians! To what extent the Russian authorities will put it mildly: they disrespect "the Russian people ...

        Russians, because of their dominant number among the peoples of the Russian Federation, have become hostage to the situation. Let's just say that they try not to stick out the Russian theme, so as not to heat up the topic of oppression of small nations.
    2. Eaglealex
      Eaglealex 9 December 2015 09: 47
      +9
      My wife is Tatar, though half, and the other half is the Ural Cossack woman, uh and an explosive mixture, I tell you ... So it’s not known who oppresses anyone, it’s been three years in my family life .. :)
    3. Garris199
      Garris199 9 December 2015 16: 45
      +1
      Quote: Svetoch
      This is a targeted diversionary work.

      It would be foolish of them not to use tools to incite ethnic hatred in a multinational state.
      Another question is why we do not use the same methods in relation to our partners? There are also enough pain points. Our special services need a kick in the ass to start working for real.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 December 2015 07: 42
    +7
    in Tatarstan, about 26% of all foreign investment projects are Turkish

    Yes, since the Yeltsin era, Tatarstan has attracted the attention of both foreign intelligence services and radicals from Islam. Anti-Russian work is in full swing there. Yesterday on TV in one of the programs they say that in Bashkiria the former street. Frunze was renamed in honor of the Turkish accomplice of the Nazis Zaki Validi (he actively cooperated first with the intelligence service in Poland, then with the "Abwehr"). I'm wondering, and that Tatarstan and Bashkiria live according to laws that do not coincide with the laws of the Russian Federation?
    1. Down House
      Down House 9 December 2015 12: 59
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      I’m wondering, what does Tatarstan and Bashkiria live according to laws that do not coincide with the laws of the Russian Federation?

      Do not believe it - the laws are generally the same laughing
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 9 December 2015 13: 23
        0
        The question was asked purely rhetorically. Therefore, I believe you.
  11. Dimy4
    Dimy4 9 December 2015 07: 56
    +1
    Tatarstan as one of the goals of "friends of Russia"

    Already in my opinion it was, but! Such "friends" for *** yes to the museum. And foldable and less problems.
  12. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 9 December 2015 08: 07
    +9
    Among my friends there are many Tatars who claim that this kind of delusional propaganda about the "Tatars systematically exterminated in Russia" has been pouring for several years.

    From birth I live in Bashkortostan and I hear that someone mythical and somewhere believe that some kind of oppression happens here.
    There are a lot of acquaintances among the Bashkirs and among the Tatars - they all just shrug their shoulders and just as well consider all this as complete nonsense.
    1. Garik444
      Garik444 9 December 2015 09: 15
      +1
      And what roads are there in Ufa and the republic, I even envy when I drive through, there are no such roads in Yekaterinburg, but I would like to: (. If you want people not to look towards the "tolerant" liberals, give him a good life, in Tatarstan and Bashkiria, that's all in order.
    2. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 9 December 2015 09: 27
      -4
      Quote: Al_oriso
      From birth I live in Bashkortostan and I hear that someone mythical and somewhere believe that some kind of oppression happens here.
      Welcome to the club" laughing Russophobes.
      Being in the Russian Federation, and even here on "VO", I was surprised to learn that all we do is "oppress, oppress and genocide" the Great Russians .. bully
      Up to the fact that "rage on the bus" am
      Quote: Belousov
      Tatars (as a nation) have never been close to the Russians
      Nah ?! And there is a version that just the closest Russian people. The core is common - Ugrofinn. The current alone has been turquised, while others have become famous ..
      Quote: Belousov
      Can only live with strained belts.
      Quite the contrary, it is better not to go too far with the Tatars. They simply will not tolerate this. Now there is an optimal balance of relations between the federal center and the republic.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 9 December 2015 11: 39
        +2
        Quite the contrary, it is better not to go too far with the Tatars. They just won’t tolerate it .. And there is a version that is just the closest Russian people. Here it is, for sure. And the Tatars and Russians, what makes them related?
        That's it: "You can't go too far with us!"
  13. Down House
    Down House 9 December 2015 08: 11
    +1
    Another panic of the next "conspiracy theorists" - separatism in the Russian Federation WILL NOT WORK, and there are 1001 reasons why Internet lovers of all sorts of "Tatar-Polesia" walk through the forest in splendid isolation.
  14. vmo
    vmo 9 December 2015 08: 21
    +4
    And why, four freaks with a flag are still on the site? Apparently Russia has fed "new" friends.
  15. Chulman
    Chulman 9 December 2015 08: 22
    0
    Can Minikhanov do another circumcision, only to the ears? And his last name just fits: Mini Khan, specific prince!
    1. Mangel olys
      Mangel olys 12 December 2015 20: 56
      -2
      For insulting the president of Tatarstan, you can be brought to trial. Site administrators this also applies!
      1. Condor-a
        Condor-a 13 December 2015 00: 38
        0
        Are they leaning against the wheel of an arba?
  16. wild
    wild 9 December 2015 08: 35
    0
    Where are you going to Tatars ??? The time will come and in orderly rows, along with the rest of the population, you will go to defend your Homeland.
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      1. wild
        wild 9 December 2015 13: 37
        -1
        Only not in your ....
  17. Belousov
    Belousov 9 December 2015 09: 03
    -4
    Tatars (as a nation) were never close to Russians. They can only live with tensioned belts. Otherwise, they begin to crap. Those who live in other regions are most often normal people, at least in Samara, have not encountered stubborn citizens, although we have a lot of Tatars here. But in Tatarstan itself it is apparently purposefully brainwashed, moreover, constantly and for a long time. But just what is the FSB doing? Only and according to article 282 can they drive Russians? Or protect national groups and with the cops to share spheres of influence?
    1. zinander
      zinander 9 December 2015 21: 47
      0
      Before you write nonsense, you need to turn on your brain a little bit and ask what and how it really is. What can these apparently be? The problem is what? I don’t see the problem, I live in Tatarstan. Among my acquaintances there are no people who are washed brains. Everything is normal with us, neither better nor worse than the national average. And about billions of dollars of infusion, it’s about the Universiade and a little at the World Championships in water sports. Now here at World Cup 2018. So the republic does not sit with outstretched hands but It works and works well. And do not stir up the water.
  18. Garik444
    Garik444 9 December 2015 09: 08
    +1
    Quote: evgeny1979
    ban freedom of speech

    Not freedom of speech, probably, but brainwashing and extremism.
  19. Fitter65
    Fitter65 9 December 2015 10: 06
    +3
    Tatars ... in Russia have long been suppressed, terrorized and systematically exterminated!
    And especially when you consider that KamAZ-Tatar drivers are on a slang of drivers, then how many of them were killed in the USSR and Russia over the years .... laughing
  20. Roust
    Roust 9 December 2015 10: 09
    +6
    "... I am a Tatar, I am a Tatar, the guy is not simple,
    I am a Tatar, I am a Tatar with a Russian soul ... "(from the song).
    I hope everything is clear. No need to rock the national boat. The family is not without freaks. And with the supporters of the Turks and others will deal with the relevant authorities.
  21. Vaska
    Vaska 9 December 2015 10: 13
    +2
    And the author of an article about Tatarstan, Ayrat Galimzyanov, is the pseudonym of a pseudo-expert Rais Suleymanov, who loves to excite the audience and it is not clear which mill pours water.
    1. Tanyax
      Tanyax 9 December 2015 11: 43
      0
      How nice that you and I know about this)
  22. troy
    troy 9 December 2015 10: 22
    +8
    what is there to talk about. Tatars are ordinary people, no worse and no better than others. and the danger to our homeland does not come from them, not from grant issuers, much less from the crazy ones like Poroshenko and Erdogan. the biggest danger here. this is the process of Vasilyeva and Serdyukov, this is our super-honest prosecutor general who is even shy to resign even with full disclosure, this is a hard worker Chubais who put our economy in the energy stolen from us, this is the governor's galaxy of criminals, this is the most honest advice of the federation. that’s all this, and if Russia does not have a master, our country to shreds ... well, but the Tatars are kind and, to give credit, a hardworking people.
  23. gla172
    gla172 9 December 2015 10: 46
    +6
    Hey, Russians - Tatars, Chuvashs, Jews, Kalmyks,
    What should we wear when our steppes are washed with freedom!
    Enough for all the spring sun, winter bread,
    At one time, a disastrous memory and a blue sky.


    DDT.
  24. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 9 December 2015 10: 57
    +3
    In every society there is always a black sheep! So no wonder. Bastards were, are and will be, but thank people the majority of reasonable people, and it pleases!
  25. Tanyax
    Tanyax 9 December 2015 11: 42
    +2
    Stop listening to this fool already, he’s not worth the whole article)) And yes, his name is Rais, he’s just a figure that’s known and is hiding
  26. Georg Shep
    Georg Shep 9 December 2015 12: 13
    +5
    All of today's autonomous-shtetl nationalisms, extremism and separatist tendencies grow out of the Bolshevik-Leninist legacy, which reshaped the territorial-provincial structure that is common for all the peoples of the Russian Empire into artificially created republican-autonomous formations in the country. This led in 1991 to a great tragedy - the separation from Russia of many ancestral territories with the Russian population and way of life, and today it leads to the fact that such a division is a breeding ground for the growth of so-called local "pseudo-elites" in many ways contributing to a certain growth and the growing centers of separatism, outright parochialism and religious extremism there.
    All this suggests that for the health of our society, the unity and territorial integrity of the country, there is an urgent need to abolish the existing federal-republican-autonomous division of the country into a single administrative-state structure for all subjects and direct subordination of the central government of the country.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 9 December 2015 12: 24
      +1
      All right, but where are you going to get to this very elite now? You can't do without cleaning, the measure is extremely unpopular. With such a situation with "partners", it is impossible to rock the boat now. With such internal problems we will have to wait until stabilization on the external borders, ie, until we put our "partners" in the ground, we will have to endure.
      1. troy
        troy 9 December 2015 12: 41
        +3
        here the main question is. if Putin is the president, why doesn't he see those who withdraw capital during the war, ruin industry, energy, etc.? and how at this time you can open a Yeltsin center? Is it an endorsement of a country's betrayal? I don’t know if I have time to wait ...
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 9 December 2015 16: 17
          -2
          I don’t know if I have time to wait ... And what do you suggest. Personally, I’m already tired of reading this cent, which was discovered. It seems that Putin and Medvedev have opened a dining room for cannibals. why doesn’t he see those who withdraw capital during the war, ruin industry, energy, etc.? The most popular question on the forum. You are in the top ten. With this attitude, you will soon be the generalissimo. Yes, how do we know what is being done there in the Kremlin? What energy is being destroyed and why. Do you have information? You know, I'm a doctor. To make a diagnosis, one must have information about the life of the patient, his relatives, study the tests, listen to him, touch (palpation is called), knock (percussion). And more, much more. And what do you know about economics and politics? The actions of a person who has lived 10-15 years of life with you cannot always be foreseen. And, here, to you personally, an unknown person. Information about him is closed. completely! What are you speaking about? By the way, the name of the person in Russian is written with a capital letter! Less to you.
  27. DMB78
    DMB78 9 December 2015 12: 56
    +4
    There is no need to wait. It is necessary to destroy the "fifth columns" in all forms, and the sooner the better! To avoid unexpected blows in the back. I would like to see how JV Stalin would "wait".
    1. troy
      troy 9 December 2015 13: 24
      +2
      and the Yeltsin family, and the prosecutor general, and Serdyukov, and Chubais and the rest is the fifth column? who does more harm to our long-suffering homeland are they or bulk with the company? who knows the answer to this question?
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 9 December 2015 17: 56
        0
        I know.
        Serdyukov with the company, just thieves, but mine. They want to live in this country and rule it. But Navalny is simply the Enemy who wants us to have a civil war, so that we kill each other. There is a difference? I am up to one place, how many, who stole, if nothing threatens my child from this life. But Navalny, it was, dad went for the bread, and they shot him through the head, and ate his son and neighbors. Or, you, somehow, differently civil war and famine, represent?
  28. Next
    Next 9 December 2015 13: 13
    +3
    Please enlighten knowledgeable people: why does Tatarstan have incomprehensible to me special sovereignty within the Russian Federation? If I’m not mistaken, there is a certain agreement between the Russian Federation and Tatarstan on sovereignty, if so, then my brain refuses to understand this ... I don’t understand, is it in all republics or only in RT ??? In general, I am in favor of changing the federal system to something else. IMHO.
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 9 December 2015 14: 18
      +1
      Please enlighten knowledgeable people: why does Tatarstan have incomprehensible to me special sovereignty within the Russian Federation? If I’m not mistaken, there is a certain agreement between the Russian Federation and Tatarstan on sovereignty, if so, then my brain refuses to understand this ... I don’t understand, is it in all republics or only in RT ??? In general, I am in favor of changing the federal system to something else. IMHO.


      Sovereignty is prescribed in the constitutions (and there are such) of all republics introducing into the Russian Federation, and it has been registered there since the time of the USSR.
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  29. Vvp
    Vvp 9 December 2015 13: 52
    +7
    Nationalism and the dream of state independence have always existed in Tatarstan. These two levers were used whenever needed. This was especially evident in the 90s under Yeltsin, who handed out sovereignty to the right and to the left. When the people burned Russian flags, they chanted "Azatlyk!" (Freedom!), "Russians, get out of the republic!", "Children from mixed marriages - to the crematorium!" and so on, Shaimiev was gaining political points, controlling the republican KGB, sending humanitarian aid to Basayev, Dudayev and Maskhadov. With the advent of Putin, everything calmed down a bit, but it has not been eradicated. As long as Mintimer Shaimiev's successors, such as his former driver Minikhanov, are in power in Tatarstan, one should not expect that the idea of ​​nationalism and the dream of state independence will be eradicated, and someone will fight them, because hope dies last. There is no need to speak about the corruption component of the top - it is known to every inhabitant from childhood.
    The authorities in Tatarstan need federals. It is necessary to carry out reforms to reorganize management and in fact show the population that the standard of living will be higher than under the "president" of Tatarstan.
  30. capitosha1rang
    capitosha1rang 9 December 2015 13: 57
    +3
    It is easy to be an extremist by resisting or denouncing the "regime" on social media.
    On the street, these guys heal very quickly, after meeting with one of the simplest and cheapest democratization tools: PR-73М.
    "Cudgel rubber band".
    By the way, until 1917 in Russia, the holy fools, pestering passers-by near churches and temples, were "treated" with ordinary wooden clubs, and - it helped!
    Using the experience of our ancestors?
    1. troy
      troy 9 December 2015 14: 46
      +1
      Yes, I just wouldn’t like to ... for such advocates of the regime with batons or nudges, as a rule, end their days in poverty somewhere in Istanbul, having handed over their women to work in a brothel ... the story goes on spiraling .. and in the worst case it will wash away both the bulk and the aforementioned and bold cheers of the patriots, and the people will not be sweet ...
  31. Yugra
    Yugra 9 December 2015 13: 58
    +2
    FSB, ay, where are you ??? These, in the photo which should already rot in the Lubyanka!
  32. casparcaspar
    casparcaspar 9 December 2015 14: 02
    -5
    Quote: Proximo
    Please enlighten knowledgeable people: why does Tatarstan have incomprehensible to me special sovereignty within the Russian Federation? If I’m not mistaken, there is a certain agreement between the Russian Federation and Tatarstan on sovereignty, if so, then my brain refuses to understand this ... I don’t understand, is it in all republics or only in RT ??? In general, I am in favor of changing the federal system to something else. IMHO.

    I will tell you more ... Tatarstan actually does not pay taxes to the budget. :))) These others transfer to Moscow 96% of taxes collected. But Tatarstan ... no ...))))
    1. Garik444
      Garik444 9 December 2015 14: 33
      0
      Tell me where infa?
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  33. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 9 December 2015 14: 36
    +1
    "Tatars (Turkic people)" - you just laugh. laughing
  34. AID.S
    AID.S 9 December 2015 14: 44
    -1
    Quote: VVP
    When the people burned Russian flags, they chanted "Azatlyk!" (Freedom!), "Russians, get out of the republic!"

    As the Nazis shot the population of villages for the Germans killed by partisans, it turns out that you accused the whole people of what some of its representatives did, who, by the way, did not receive support from the people. Do not provoke extremist and separatist sentiments with your incorrect comments. Change the word "people" on "several hundred nationalists" and it will be impossible to find fault with your comment.
  35. aviator1913
    aviator1913 9 December 2015 14: 45
    0
    I will tell you more ... Tatarstan actually does not pay taxes to the budget. :))) These others transfer to Moscow 96% of taxes collected. But Tatarstan ... no ...))))



    Tatarstan took the sixth place among the Russian regions in the transfer of taxes to the federal budget.

    Among the regions of the Volga region, the republic is in first place.

    Such data was announced by the deputy head of the Federal Tax Service of the Russian Federation, Andrei Petrushin, at a joint meeting of the Ministry of Finance of the Republic of Tatarstan, the Federal Tax Service of Tatarstan and the Federal Treasury of Tajikistan. The meeting was attended by Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov, Tatarstan President Rustam Minnikhanov and Presidential Envoy to the Volga Federal District Mikhail Babich.

    (Russian newspaper http://www.rg.ru/2013/12/13/reg-pfo/sbori-anons.html)
    1. casparcaspar
      casparcaspar 9 December 2015 16: 00
      -4
      Yeah! and at the same time the third debtor in the Russian Federation.))) And there is still a way to expose the debtor as a donor - to transfer to him more than he pays. Explore why Tatarstan is so dramatically different from neighboring regions.)
      1. AID.S
        AID.S 9 December 2015 17: 25
        +1
        Quote: casparcaspar
        Yeah! and at the same time the third debtor in the Russian Federation.))) And there is still a way to expose the debtor as a donor - to transfer to him more than he pays. Explore why Tatarstan is so dramatically different from neighboring regions.)

        Could you provide information on the debts of Tatarstan? The arguments of the aviator 1913 are convincing, but yours ...
        I looked at the public debt of Tatarstan - about 90 billion. Transferred for 2014. in the federal budget of about 220. Conclusion, you are incompetent.
  36. avva2012
    avva2012 9 December 2015 18: 10
    +1
    Quote: DMB78
    There is no need to wait. It is necessary to destroy the "fifth columns" in all forms, and the sooner the better! To avoid unexpected blows in the back. I would like to see how JV Stalin would "wait".

    JV Stalin, where necessary and not necessary, should not be attracted. This is all demagogy. I.V. Stalin, left, after his death, a great country. He fought with the revolutionaries who wanted to build the World Republic of Soviets. At the same time, ruin Russia in the trash. Do not compare, these are different times and situations.
  37. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 9 December 2015 18: 12
    +3
    a photo with four deer is all that the opposition is capable of? No one will support, no one will come. Extinguish the fifth column. Drain Turkey. Stop drooling. Turkey goes to three letters and a dot.
  38. aviator1913
    aviator1913 9 December 2015 18: 13
    +1
    Tatarstan is one of the 9 donor regions for the federal budget. The Universiade and 1000 anniversary drove the budget into debt, but the production base is growing. Therefore, tax revenues to the federal budget are increasing. And this is the situation with the Turks, because they had to hand over several new factories this year, plus they openly many other industries, it is easy to blame someone for not patriotism, but there is no direct fault of Turkish industrialists, and our citizens will lose their work. And the budget will not receive the money that is needed to feed the same army and pensions with orphans.
  39. sprut
    sprut 9 December 2015 19: 05
    0
    I have long been saying that it is necessary to eliminate such a concept as republics in our state. For example, Tatarstan is translated as land or a country of Tatars. But it’s obvious that this is not so. 50 percent are Russians there! Why then Tatarstan? It is possible and necessary to rename, for example, in the Kazan region or something like that. The normal majority, in principle, do not care. Do not give a damn about the inadequate marginalized people who undermine the situation.
    1. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 9 December 2015 19: 29
      0
      Quote: sprut
      I have long been saying that it is necessary to eliminate such a concept as a republic in our state.
      Your opinion completely coincides with Poroshenko's idea: no "people's" republics in Donetsk and Lugansk regions ..
      Quote: sprut
      You can and should rename, for example, Kazan oblast or something similar.
      As if the work is being done gradually. The sovereignty of Tatarstan is greatly reduced compared to 90-gg. By the way:
      23 December The State Duma of the Russian Federation adopted in first reading a bill according to which the head of Tatarstan could be called the president of the republic before January 1 2016.
      .
      Quote: sprut
      Normal majority doesn’t care
      Well so forward, cancel the republic drinks
      And we will see what comes of it.
      And I believe that the Tatars have a high degree of self-organization and it is quite possible that the abolition of the republican status will be the last straw and will drive the Tatars to a full-scale protest.
    2. zinander
      zinander 9 December 2015 21: 54
      +1
      There are no other problems in the country? Do you want to become similar to Ukraine? They are just doing it there. The fact of the matter is that there is no need to undermine the situation, and not the time now.
      1. sprut
        sprut 12 February 2016 20: 37
        0
        But I'm not saying that something needs to be changed urgently. But I think that it’s not worth delaying. It is necessary to systematically, methodically and confidently work in this direction. It is to work. So that one day, in the medium term, the people themselves in a referendum would vote for the abolition of this kind of anachronisms.
  40. UZBEK TASHKENT
    UZBEK TASHKENT 9 December 2015 20: 15
    +2
    Hare kindle this from us and expect. It is necessary to nip in the bud, even if it comes to Vissarionitch’s methods. Moreover, not only Muslim extremism, but also Russian fascism to no lesser extent. And most importantly, now Russia has a huge chance to get the status of a country preaching the right Islam. Islam without the right to kill, terror and other nonsense, which is absolutely not mentioned in the Qur'an. I have to hold on, I’m sure that all Muslim countries will reach for Russia, which will become the world center of Islam amid treachery of religion, first of all, such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and so on.
  41. Kashmere
    Kashmere 9 December 2015 20: 24
    +1
    I have been reading this resource for quite some time, but it was this topic that forced me to sign up to unsubscribe in the comments.
    Which of those who commented on this news live in Tatarstan, are there any?
    But as soon as they do not try to denigrate, it’s also that money is being thrown into us from the federal budget, that we are not transferring taxes, etc. etc.
    I’ll once again announce thesis-Tatarstan, which has already been on the list of donor regions for a year, in 2013 there were 10 such regions, in 2014-11, in 2015 -14, donor regions do not receive direct subsidies from the federal budget, funding for them may come only in the form of various federal target programs in which Tatarstan is actively involved.
    The millennium of the city, the Universiade and the World Aquatics Championship brought funding to Kazan, however, most of the money from the federal center was taken in the form of budget loans in 2010, because of this, Tatarstan has the second largest public debt to the federal center, as of July, the size of the debt was 104 billion 750 million rubles, as of October 1, 90 billion 500 million.
    Instead of mentioning Idel Ural, I will say that during the Second World War TASSR sent about 700 people to the front, about half of them did not return home. About 000 people were awarded the hero’s medal, more details can be found here-http: //www.soldatru.ru/read.php? Id = 179
    Why did they hobble with the Turks? According to paragraph 3 of the agreement on the delimitation of objects of competence and authority between the state authorities of the Russian Federation and the state authorities of the Republic of Tatarstan:
    - The Republic of Tatarstan, within its powers, carries out international and foreign economic relations with subjects and administrative-territorial formations of foreign states, participates in the activities of bodies of international organizations specially created for these purposes, and also concludes agreements on the implementation of international, foreign economic relations and carries out such relations with bodies state power of foreign states in agreement with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation in the manner established by the Government of the Russian Federation.
    So, in agreement with the Foreign Ministry, Tatarstan was very actively working on establishing foreign economic relations with the same Turkey, the UAE (where Tatarstan has its plenipotentiary and trade missions), Qatar, China, Cuba, and many others, our President Minnikhanov (sorry, while I I can call him that, the term of the title of his position has not expired) every couple of weeks he must visit any country, not for the sake of rest, but meets with investors, looks at various industries, technoparks, the urban environment, attracts organizations to enter Tatarstan, organize joint ventures etc. The same Turks in Tatarstan built the largest woodworking plant "Kastamonu", opened, together with the French from Saint-Gobain, the production of auto glass components in the SEZ Alabuga, they immediately equip Ford at Sollers, large projects were planned for greenhouses, the production of forklifts, development and much more. These projects are from the sphere of industry, not oil refining, they contribute to the diversification of the economy of Tatarstan and it turns out that in Russia, the volume of investments from Turkey in recent years has left about $ 1,5 billion, this is every fourth dollar that was attracted to the republic from outside.
    1. casparcaspar
      casparcaspar 9 December 2015 20: 44
      0
      Those. Do you unequivocally dismiss the presence of Tatar Bandera in Tatarstan? For some reason, a "more equal" republic, in which both the Universiade and the millennium of water sports ... for some reason the millennium of Syktyvkar was not celebrated on such a grand scale. :)))
      And the Kamaz that the whole country built for you? And now you declare "our Kamaz feeds you ..."
      92% is taken from the Leningrad region, everything is collapsed / destroyed as if we had ISIS. And Kazan - blooms and smells. Why? :) Tatars are better than Russian unless ???
      And this strange business with the Turkobanderovites ... "every $ 4" ... not in Syktyvkar or Novosibirsk - namely, AGAIN in Kazan! Why? And you are so sure that this is not Erdogan's money, namely, "ordinary Turks" ??? Evidence?
      And what is the percentage of Russians in the leadership of Tatarstan? Something I do not remember the Russian presidents of Tatarstan. An accident? I don’t think so ...
      I think the next goal is defined.)))
      1. Kashmere
        Kashmere 9 December 2015 21: 03
        +1
        The composition of the government, see for yourself
        http://prav.tatarstan.ru/pravit.htm
        You inattentively read what I wrote here)
        Syktyvkar is not 1000 years old, as it became a city since the 18th century, the first mention in 16.
        Well, let’s say, the millennium of Kazan was celebrated (the holiday itself lasted a day, two, more was spent on the city approaching this holiday in good condition, eliminating dilapidated housing, major repairs, repairing roads and yards, building the metro, infrastructure facilities, then the same thing happened with the Universiade, where, in addition to sports facilities, they comprehensively approached the improvement, transport network, eliminated all minibuses, switched to Euro-3 buses, built interchanges, built a new train station, reconstructed the airport, most of what Moscow-she gave gave a loan, so I repeat, Tatarstan is now sticking out 90 billion rubles.
        why it’s collapsed / ruined, I can’t say, but when I myself worked in public services in the housing and communal services system, we took experience in overhaul, equipping the housing stock with water and heat metering units (with weather regulation sensors), and using energy-saving technologies came delegations from many constituent entities of the Russian Federation (only in my memory Lipetsk, Perm, Saratov, Orenburg).
        Syktyvkar (are you from there?) And Novosibirsk do not have the money of international investors (in fact, Novosibirsk has simply fewer and mainly large chain stores like AUCHAN, Leroy, etc., in Komi, mainly oil refining), only because the leadership of the Novosibirsk region and The Komi Republic in this case attach less importance to this issue.
        http://ru.investinrussia.com/choose-region
        Look here, an interesting resource, for each region you can see how much, at what stage.
        You’re a nationalist. Are you jealous or just angry at other nationalities living in the Federation?
        1. casparcaspar
          casparcaspar 9 December 2015 21: 26
          +1
          I just troll you. And experienced the pleasure. No need to think - write all sorts of garbage. :)))
          But with regards to taxes, this is the case - Tatarstan does list less taxes and, by any agreement, returns them back. :) This is done to prevent discontent in the Muslim republics, such an approach in our country.
          And thank God, I know that your Tatar leaders really spend them on the population. Probably steal. But you can just be thankful that not everything is stolen. :)))

          And the article is a nasty stuffing of a bastard.
      2. zinander
        zinander 9 December 2015 22: 00
        -1
        So, celebrate the birthday of Syktyvkar, who is against it? Kazan really blooms and trees are planted in our city, like probably nowhere else in Russia. What’s wrong with this? Start with yourself before kerosene. Although judging by the shoulder straps, you’re just for this here am
  42. Kashmere
    Kashmere 9 December 2015 20: 24
    +4
    Believe me, the people in Tatarstan were deeply shocked and indignant at what happened with our SU-24, the sanctions were imposed correctly, but what did this rogue Galimzyanov want from the leadership of Tatarstan, what should they come up with?
    Our President Putin gave an assessment of what happened, saying that the people of Turkey are friendly to us, they have such a leadership. And as far as I know, Tatarstan is working with Moscow on each of the projects (business should be separated from politics, which does not fall under sanctions need to implement).
    Both Tatars and Russians and other peoples live in Tatarstan in peace and harmony, many mixed marriages. Come to Tatarstan, we are now actively developing tourism, there is something to see, you can usefully spend your vacation and vacation time :)
    1. casparcaspar
      casparcaspar 9 December 2015 21: 33
      0
      Quote: Kashmere
      the people in Tatarstan were deeply shocked and outraged by what happened to our SU-24
      - and you yourself are asking to be beaten. Who else, if not the Tatars, should have said "Yes, we are shocked and outraged! But! Why did the leadership of our country violate the Turkish border for two months and did not react to their protests and warnings? Why did they buried two Russian guys? Why did our diplomats not agreed with Turkey and allowed so to spit on the sovereignty of another country? ".
      No ... it is more convenient for you "we are outraged like everyone else!" Well, wait until they repent "I am ashamed that I have Tatar blood!" It's just that the Tatars have not yet been appointed "Tatar Bandera", but your people are at risk.
      1. Kashmere
        Kashmere 9 December 2015 21: 42
        +1
        firstly, why would the Tatars first of all be indignant about this?
        Minnikhanov is not Kadyrov, he doesn’t lead on the political topic in the instagram, correctly understanding that the Russian Foreign Ministry and the President of the Russian Federation should express the country's position on certain issues, or do you offer powers to Tatarstan separately, to conduct politics on your behalf? As the Shamans said, the Supreme Commander will say, I’ll go. When Crimea became part of the Russian Federation, Minnikhanov was appointed a interpreter with the Crimean Tatars, the sponsored region in the Crimea was given to Tatarstan - Bakhchisaray, although ethnologically there is nothing in common between the Volga Tatars and the Crimean, the Crimean are just closer to the Turks.
        If you are interested, the rally on the second day after the incident near the Turkish Embassy in Kazan was organized, again, in agreement with the federal center.
        carry heresy, chesslovo
        Tatarobanderovtsy is that at all?
  43. Artemis
    Artemis 9 December 2015 20: 45
    +3
    Judging by the comments, few people love Tatarstan here, I would even say that I openly hate it.

    Comrades should be ashamed. We live in a country that defeated fascism.

    It remains only to finish the terry fascism of the Great Russian sense, because of which we - Russians, are constantly suffering.
    1. casparcaspar
      casparcaspar 9 December 2015 20: 50
      0
      Quote: Artemis
      Judging by the comments, few people love Tatarstan here, I would even say that I openly hate it.

      Comrades should be ashamed. We live in a country that defeated fascism.

      It remains only to finish the terry fascism of the Great Russian sense, because of which we - Russians, are constantly suffering.

      - here they are ready to hate at the behest.) What is thrown in is hated. They feel the scent, those who are not on the order.)
  44. Bgerl
    Bgerl 9 December 2015 21: 23
    +1
    Russia is the only country where representatives of different religions have successfully coexisted for centuries. In other places, different trends of the same religion do not get along for more than a couple of decades, the massacre begins. There are enough examples. Such a scenario is the cherished dream of Russia's "partners". Hope for the glorious descendants of the glorious KGB and GRU.
  45. Raider
    Raider 9 December 2015 21: 58
    +3
    These four guys got what they wanted from a number of our colleagues. They sowed those black seeds of interethnic strife between us. And everyone began to take out of the cabinets "skeletons". Who has so many traitors, who betrayed whom when ... Aren't you ashamed? Who lives how largely depends on the person himself. But the topic of religious nationalism came precisely from Turkey and to Tatarstan and Bashkiria. In the turbulent 90s, Turkish colleges began to be created in Ufa and Kazan, from where they were sent to practice in Turkey and Egypt. From there, religious fanatics were already coming. This evil was sown and cultivated for a long time, and now the first fruits of this infection came out. In the wake of the strengthening of religion in our country, mosques were rapidly built, where the first teachers were either immigrants from Turkey, or trained there, new preachers went to the people from these classes, etc. Now women wear hijab, but in fact it was not the headdress of the ancestors of the Tatars and Bashkirs, which is now being stubbornly introduced into social life. Where did he come from? * Guess? Look at the photos of Islamic countries of the world. Islam, like Orthodoxy, does not teach to kill. We just have a lot of interpreters. Not without the help of someone. They are simply trying to shatter the country - economically and spiritually. It's easier to destroy us from the inside than from the outside. Unfortunately, every religion has its own nationalist fanatics. And what is happening now in the Islamic world of Russia is the mistakes of the national policy of the 80-90s. They brought religion too close to the state, too close, dangerously close. By the way, in both republics, mosques are still being built with money from the UAE. Unfortunately, Islam, as well as the muftis and the Khazrats, has too much current. Although Allah is one. We need a strict vertical of management of the clergy. I do not think that the number of mosques and churches will become cleaner in souls. A believer can pray like that. And here, as 50 knocks, everyone becomes believers, they begin to build mosques and churches, wash their sins. And you just have to live honestly, all your life, then you don't need to pray for anything. Probably something is off topic. (Tatar, I live in Bashkiria, by the way, our Nazinals, they persistently force me to name and write Bashkortostan, and I like Bashkiria, which is more gentle and freer). Be more tolerant of each other and no one will ever defeat us. I'm not Russian, but Russian! IMHO. Good luck everyone.
  46. gammipapa
    gammipapa 9 December 2015 22: 52
    +2
    Always been against sticking out nationalism. Always divided people only into good and bad, and the nation is the tenth thing. And I realized this a long time ago when I served in the army urgent. What nationalities did not see, all the former republics, the Chukchi only did not exist. Judging by one person is stupid, but when they gather in flocks on a national basis, they immediately begin to emerge distinctly. No matter what nationality the flock was, but in it all the same as in the neighboring one - this serious one on one’s mind, this six is ​​on the hook, this one generally where the wind blows there and turns its head. So in all groups of nationalities, this is a fact.
    And inciting ethnic hatred is as old as the world, it was invented even earlier than gunpowder.
  47. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 10 December 2015 02: 18
    +1
    Nationalism in Tatarstan has always been, is and will be.
    In 1975, one student at Kazan University (Tatar), when he was thumping, immediately called everyone under the green banners.
  48. Kurchan
    Kurchan 10 December 2015 02: 48
    +3
    Specifically, I went to the site to write an answer to all the empty socks. The arguments in the article and in the comments are far-fetched.
    1. "Russia feeds Tatarstan" - at least take a look at the list of profitable and subsidized regions. Tatarstan ranks 6th among profitable regions. And 2nd place in agricultural production. products. So who else is feeding whom is unknown, comrades Muscovites.
    2. "Tatarstan is the same Chechnya" - all separatist sentiments were eradicated in the early 90s by the first president of the Republic of Tatarstan, Shaimiev, for which the entire population, regardless of religion, is still grateful to him. Yes, sometimes stray Islamist cells of 3-5 people are opened, no one has been taken prisoner during the capture, and no one has ever grieved about this in Tatarstan. The practice of traveling clergymen to the UAE for internships was stopped, and it was recognized as dangerous and harmful 3 years ago.
    3. Tatars really can and know how to work. And the government of Tatarstan since its inception worked for the republic, and not in order to grab and dump. Tatarstan has its own companies working for the benefit of the residents of the republic, and not branches of Moscow representative offices. Hence, such tax revenues in the republic, and hence developed social programs.
    4. Tatarstan subscribes to any federal or competitive program, be it the construction of housing, the creation of scientific centers or the holding of sports events. Even the UN grant for the organization of intercepting parking lots recently won, it would seem, nonsense, but the Tatars are hired for any programs and investments. Hence the seeming "cash flow from the center".
    I’m Russian myself, but I’m so offended to read such articles and comments of narrow-minded people. I can imagine what the Tatars honestly working and living in the republic read IT.
    1. Condor-a
      Condor-a 10 December 2015 03: 36
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      Shaimiev, on the contrary, moved separatism until he was warned for the last time ...
      1. Kurchan
        Kurchan 10 December 2015 04: 13
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        Are you responsible for your words?
        In 1992, Yeltsin convened a military council on planning the deployment of troops and a force assault on Kazan! Yeltsin! Not Shaimiev yelled about the war, but Yeltsin. Shaimiev tried to meet and talk with Yeltsin in order to prevent bloodshed.
        And now when 99% of the people of the republic do not dare to think about secession, you are again yelling about bad Tatarstan.
        You don’t even notice that the article itself is far-fetched by the writers of the writer Airat Galimzyanov, not a single fact or a single statement of the head of the republic is given. And in the comments you already pour mud and cast a shadow on one of the peoples of Russia. So, at best, you do it out of stupidity, or you intentionally aggravate the situation.
        1. Condor-a
          Condor-a 10 December 2015 08: 00
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          It seems you are not responsible for your own.
          Elkin said something about sovereignty about "take as much as you want." The last warning to Shayimev came much later.
        2. Tanyax
          Tanyax 10 December 2015 09: 16
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          This scribbler Airat is local by the name of Rais, he took a pseudonym for himself, simply because few people hear him as Raisa. He should never heed, it is his main task to attract by the ears.
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    2. Tanyax
      Tanyax 10 December 2015 09: 18
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      It's nice that you went in and unsubscribed. Thanks you))
  49. Kurchan
    Kurchan 10 December 2015 04: 33
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    Everyone who is interested in understanding the success of Tatarstan watch the film from the Moment of Truth cycle "Mintimer Shaimiev. The fate of the Great Politician of the XX - XXI centuries"
    1. Tanyax
      Tanyax 10 December 2015 09: 15
      +1
      Tatarstan is a good region, it is better to just come to us and see for yourself))
  50. Oleg Lavrov
    Oleg Lavrov 10 December 2015 18: 29
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    There are black sheep ready to sell their mother for money in any nation, which Galimzyanov shows in the struggle for Turkish tomatoes, and he is ready to put up with the fact that he supports the payment of the Turkish army, which kills his compatriots. You should not pay attention to such pseudopolitologists ... ignore such skits, the best punishment.