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December 4th Turkish tank the battalion entered the Iraqi province of Ninewa. Iraq demanded the withdrawal of the Turkish military from the territory of the country, calling their presence an “invasion”. Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi demanded that the invading forces be withdrawn within 48 hours. According to media reports of December 7 and 8, Baghdad may turn to Russia for military assistance. In turn, Russia intends to discuss the issue of Turkey’s actions in Iraq, as well as in Syria at a closed meeting of the UN Security Council.


Turkish invasion


A battalion of Turkish soldiers was stationed in northern Iraq near Mosul captured by the "Islamic State". Troops equipped with armored vehicles. The officially declared mission goal is to prepare the local militia for the battles with the IG. This became known 4 December, reports "Lenta.ru".

However, the Iraqi Foreign Ministry qualified Turkey’s actions as an invasion. Baghdad rejected the possibility of an uncoordinated operation and demanded the immediate withdrawal of the Turkish troops. Iraq reserved the right to countermeasures.

Ankara responded by saying that Turkey has no plans for a ground military operation.

Contrary to the demands of Baghdad, Turkey decided not to withdraw the military from Iraq, reported late December 7 Interfax.

An unnamed representative of the Turkish government told Western journalists in Istanbul that Turkey would not withdraw the military stationed near Mosul from Iraq. “They are expected to stay there,” the media quoted the official as saying.

Interfax recalls that Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi earlier demanded that Ankara withdraw troops from Iraq within 48 hours. Otherwise, he threatened to take “affordable measures” up to the appeal to the UN Security Council.

Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Numan Kurtulmush, at a briefing in Ankara, explained the military presence in the neighbor’s territory by saying that this measure was “directed against IS, which coincides with the interests of Iraq,” reports "Lenta.ru".

Baghdad may turn to Russia with a request for military assistance, said the head of the country's security committee, Hakim al-Zamili, in an interview with Al-Araby-al-Jadeed, the magazine notes "Expert".

“The invasion of the Turkish military in Iraq is a gross violation of the sovereignty of our country. Iraq has the strength to respond to this invasion and expel them from Iraqi territory. We can also ask Russia to send military forces to Iraq in response to Turkey’s violation of our sovereignty, ”al-Zamili said.

In turn, Moscow asked the UN Security Council to discuss Turkey’s actions in Iraq, as well as in Syria.

Russia is going to raise at a closed meeting of the UN Security Council the question of the military actions of Turkey in Iraq and Syria. This is reported by Reuters, citing unnamed diplomats, reports RBC.

“We don’t have the details, but Russia asked to discuss Turkey’s actions in Iraq and Syria,” the agency quotes the source as saying.

According to diplomats, the UN Security Council meeting can be held behind closed doors (on the night from 8 to December 9 Moscow time). The discussion will be led by the United States, since this month they are presiding over the Security Council.

RBC journalists could not get a comment from the Russian representation at the UN.

In addition, reminds RBC, a diplomatic source of the TASS in the UN previously stated that the Russian side will raise on Tuesday at a closed meeting of the UN Security Council the question of the deployment of military troops in northern Iraq.

In the morning of December 8 one more appeared. news on the Turkish-Iraqi theme.

As reported by "Vedomosti" With reference to Reuters, the deployment of a military contingent of Turkey to the north of Iraq in the Mosul area has been suspended.

It is reported that Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu wrote a letter to Iraqi counterpart Heider Al-Abadi with a promise not to send new forces to Iraq as long as Baghdad remains “sensitive” to this issue.

On the eve, the agency reminds, the Prime Minister of Turkey explained the deployment of troops in a planned rotation. Davutoglu stated that the actions were coordinated with the Ministry of Defense of Iraq. However, Iraqi Defense Minister Khaled al-Obeidi has denied this claim.

We consider it necessary to bring another Turkish statement.

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt авavusoglu suggested that “other countries” played a role in Iraq’s reaction to the deployment of Turkish troops. What exactly, he did not specify.

He stated this in an interview with the Turkish TV channel "24", reports RBC with reference to Reuters.

According to him, the reason for sending the Turkish military to Iraq is “well known: this is training and consultation.” Cavusoglu said that the Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi himself had repeatedly asked Turkey for more active support against the "Islamic State".

What do Russian experts think about Turkey’s actions and Iraq’s reaction?

Director of the Research Center "Middle East - Caucasus" of the International Institute of the Newest States Stanislav Tarasov reminded "Free Press"that at one time the Turkish authorities concluded an agreement with Baghdad, allowing their military to enter the territory of the country to a depth of 5-10 km.

Turkish aviation under this pretext, it previously attacked the positions of the Kurdistan Workers' Party in Kandil, the expert noted. “It was a closed agreement concluded at a time when Ankara and Baghdad had normal relations,” Tarasov said. “The Turks simply took advantage of the fact that this agreement was not disavowed.”

As for the current situation, today Iraq is actually split, and the United States has the right to send troops there (in agreement with Baghdad). Ankara also played a double game with regard to Iraq: the Turkish authorities, the analyst notes, talked about preserving the territorial integrity of Iraq, and at the same time negotiated with Erbil, the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan. The outcome of the talks was an agreement between the Turks and Kurds on the transportation of gas and oil from Kurdistan (bypassing official Baghdad; however, part of the proceeds should have been received there).

“The second moment - the massive invasion of Turkish troops occurred at the very moment when there was a real threat of reducing the supply of oil and gas from Syria. Moreover, the prospects for the construction of the Turkish Stream after the aggravation of relations with Russia are very vague. An even greater nuisance for Ankara is the complete overlap of the Turkish border with Arab countries, on which the coalition allies under the auspices of the United States and Russia together with Damascus insist. ”


The expert also recalled that Washington intends to block the border by the forces of the Iraqi army and American special forces. As a result, the Turks can cut off from Iraq, and in fact they have built pipelines and hydrocarbon trading with Iraqi Kurdistan. “Sensing that their control over this region is coming to an end,” said the expert, “the Turkish authorities decided to take a proactive approach. In the presence of Turkish troops, Erbil can go on to declare independence. Then the process of the breakup of Iraq can begin. ”

The situation, we add, illustrates the priority of economics over politics. The Turks - more precisely, those Turks who are vitally interested in a large cross-border oil business - they care not about fighting IG, allegedly training Kurds under the nose of the militants, but about profits that trade in crude oil, including dumping, promises. Ankara will do its business under any pretext and will buy oil from anyone; she herself is not a brother. Unpleasantly lit up trade with the militants "IG"? Well, the Turks know what supplier diversification is: bearded today, tomorrow the Kurds. Workers in Ankara can do anything - because they are covered by the Americans.

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  1. venaya
    venaya 9 December 2015 06: 14 New
    +7
    a massive invasion of Turkish troops occurred at a time when there was a real threat of a reduction in oil and gas supplies from Syria

    The Turks in their mercantile interests will not stop even before the prospect of the collapse of Iraq. They don’t have a lot of extra money to get off the oil needle of Iraqi Kurdistan, and the worst part is that the United States can even contribute to this.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 9 December 2015 07: 39 New
      +1
      From the text of the article
      Ankara will do its business under any pretext and will buy oil from anyone; she himself is not a brother.

      Since the issue concerns superprofits, the maddened Erdogan with his clique will go to ANY crime.
      However, the press reports that in Turkey itself, the domestic political situation is also changing. Namely.
      President Erdogan is displeased with both the business community and the military. And everyone knows that the business of his eldest son, whom he covers, is anti-state. Therefore, Erdogan is now afraid that he might be swept away or even destroyed by his own military. As a result of this, full-scale arrests are being made in Turkey, mainly military ones. Erdogan is not only afraid for his own skin, but his son, for example, has already fled from Turkey. And under this "broom" can fall the whole family of Erdogan.
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      3. Tatyana
        Tatyana 9 December 2015 15: 44 New
        0
        Quote from the article
        Turks - more precisely, those Turks who are vitally interested in the large cross-border oil business are not worried about the fight against “IG”, under the nose of the militants, allegedly training the Kurds, and about the profits promised by the crude oil trade, including dumping.

        And in Turkey, more and more people are beginning to understand that the Turkish president “Erdogan is the main pillar of ISIS”

        See http://enews.md/blogs/view/8313/
    2. qwert
      qwert 9 December 2015 08: 23 New
      +3
      In the photo of the tank, camouflage under the terrain simply fits perfectly. Well, this is so lyrical digression.
      But in essence. It is strange that the United States decided to cut off Turkey from the Arab states. Further. To block the border does not mean to block the pipeline. Here, it seems to me the indicated fears of the Turks are somewhat groundless. And the third. Personally, I am not against the mess between Iraq and Turkey. Firstly, it will remind the Turks that they have not been a superpower for a long time, and secondly, it is stimulating Iraq to purchase weapons, and most likely Russian
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 9 December 2015 10: 29 New
        +7
        And how do you imagine the turmoil of Iraq and Turkey?

        Turkey's tricky plan is:
        - Cement the Barzani regime (which controls northern Iraq and a ton of oil).
        - secure the area of ​​Mosul oil and reduce the shoulder path of the IS bulk docks, by increasing the Kurds shoulder.

        Perspective:
        - become the winners of the Islamic State in Iraq, together Barzani, first taking in the ring, and then by storm Mosul. If Barzani takes Mosul, then Kurdistan will most likely be proclaimed under the applause of Turkey and the USA, and the city and all northern oil for Iraq is lost.
        - completely cut off the Iraqi government from northern oil.


        From the nearest front lines of the Iraqi army to Baiji, where there are stubborn battles with varying success and heavy losses, the Turkish base is 170 km away. Iraq cannot get anything except the Air Force.

        The strike of two pairs of F-16s with AIM-9 and 6 Su-25 is likely to result in collapse, since the Turks almost 100% insured and transferred at least a squadron to the nearest bases with AMRAAM. Iraq will lose both aviation (and if there are Iraq-Turkey battles, almost certainly the entire F-16 contract will be frozen) and pilots (jump on the territory of the Islamic State).

        Iran can unleash the problem by throwing SCADAS, which the Turks can’t bring down. But will Iran go to such an aggravation? They were going to return him for a single launch on a training ground on his territory back to sanctions.
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 9 December 2015 14: 10 New
          0
          Quote: donavi49
          Iran can unleash the problem by throwing SCADAS, which the Turks can’t bring down.

          Even in the first Iraqi campaign, they showed how the Americans drove the Iraqi squad down by the Patriot, and the latter seemed to be deployed in Turkey
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN 9 December 2015 18: 55 New
            +4
            Of course, you can bring down a skad with a patriot, especially when you are waiting for where and where to fly, and especially a single one. But the attack of the scads from different directions to reflect this is unlikely. wink
            not to send new forces to Iraq until Baghdad retains "sensitivity" to this question.

            States are waiting for anesthesia for Iraq. All the same, it is not iron in the Turks. But we don’t need this conflict, it’s very expensive to get involved in it, but it will have to touch upon it. hi
      2. sherp2015
        sherp2015 9 December 2015 11: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: qwert
        But in essence. It is strange that the United States decided to cut off Turkey from the Arab states. Further. To block the border does not mean to block the pipeline. Here, it seems to me the indicated fears of the Turks are somewhat groundless. And the third. Personally, I am not against the mess between Iraq and Turkey. Firstly, it will remind the Turks that they have not been a superpower for a long time, and secondly, it is stimulating Iraq to purchase weapons, and most likely Russian


        There will be no confusion between Iraq and Turkey, since the Iraqi army practically does not exist after the NATO bombing.
        The Turkish army is the most powerful in this region, therefore the result of the conflict is quite predictable
        1. Cap.Morgan
          Cap.Morgan 9 December 2015 16: 36 New
          +1
          NATA had long ago spread Saddam's army, then the Americans rebuilt the Iraqi army, transferring a certain amount of armored vehicles to Iraq. The Turkish "superpower" has been fighting the Kurds for many years, it can not do anything. Only coffins from the Kurdish front are coming, or whatever the Turks have as coffins ...
          1. Dad Uassia
            Dad Uassia 9 December 2015 16: 53 New
            +1
            Quote: Cap.Morgan
            NATA had long ago spread Saddam's army, then the Americans rebuilt the Iraqi army, transferring a certain amount of armored vehicles to Iraq. The Turkish "superpower" has been fighting the Kurds for many years, it can not do anything. Only coffins from the Kurdish front are coming, or whatever the Turks have as coffins ...

            We also fought in Afghanistan for many years, and so what? And besides, the US does not allow the Turks to crush the Kurds normally. It is beneficial for them to have the lever of manipulating Turkey in the form of PKK terrorists.
    3. max702
      max702 9 December 2015 11: 07 New
      +6
      Turks vs ISIS? Come on....
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    5. 11 black
      11 black 10 December 2015 17: 05 New
      0
      People, I'm sorry that is not the topic, but I can’t keep silent about this laughing

      So: Kazan homemade food supermarket chain apologized for the appearance of a cutting board in its assortment with an insulting image of “Obama the monkey” for Barack Obama.
      On a souvenir board costing a little more than 200 rubles a family of monkeys in human clothes was depicted, but for some reason the face of US President Barack Obama was in place of one muzzle.
      Handsome men))
  2. Bongo
    Bongo 9 December 2015 06: 17 New
    +8
    According to media reports from December 7 and 8, Baghdad may turn to Russia for military assistance.

    At least a strange statement, given the fact that Baghdad is now absolutely pro-American government. However, the current Iraqi leadership is not capable enough. Can they turn to their patrons for help?
    1. grigoriy
      grigoriy 9 December 2015 09: 05 New
      +1
      but what if it is pulling into a war? maybe they expect that Putin will tie in, maybe he will even send troops (which is very unlikely) and then they will change power and say that they didn’t ask ..
    2. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 9 December 2015 10: 25 New
      +2
      Why is it strange? It is quite logical.
      1) Russia has proved its role among world powers, and that if it starts, “Remove ports, hang out in the bulb”
      2) The logical desire and development of a conflict plan since In this case, Russia will attack a NATO member (and put a big bolt on the fact that he led aggression) and as a result ...

      Based on the second assumption, what difference does it make to some players where they will set fire - Ukraine, Turkey, Iraq. The main thing that will burn spectacularly will be the opportunity to expose oneself as saviors and who is better there.
      While we have a winning position
      1. What is the difference to us in Iraq? As said, they have their patrons.
      2. While time plays into our hands. "Partner" spends resources and influence, as a result does not get anything worthwhile in return.
      1. Dad Uassia
        Dad Uassia 9 December 2015 17: 01 New
        +1
        Scenario 2 may entail a war in Europe and the use of nuclear weapons.
    3. atakan
      atakan 9 December 2015 14: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Bongo
      that Baghdad is now absolutely pro-American government.

      We are not allies with them and are not bound by treaties.
      This is another trap on the initiative of Ivan the Fools.
      What the hell is that. )))
  3. radogost
    radogost 9 December 2015 06: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: venaya
    a massive invasion of Turkish troops occurred at a time when there was a real threat of a reduction in oil and gas supplies from Syria

    The Turks in their mercantile interests will not stop even before the prospect of the collapse of Iraq. They don’t have a lot of extra money to get off the oil needle of Iraqi Kurdistan, and the worst part is that the United States can even contribute to this.

    AHA))) not for nothing, just as if by accident, it was the United States that chaired this month.
    SMOOTHING TARGETED PROVOCATION?
    YES no-ee-THIS IT JUST SEEMS TO YOU .... !!! good
  4. Glot
    Glot 9 December 2015 06: 34 New
    +4
    Ankara will do its business under any pretext and will buy oil from anyone; she himself is not a brother.


    In fact, this is a key phrase. They do what they need, and they wanted to spit on everyone.
    You can condemn, shout what they are and so on and so forth, they spit on all this. Since besides words, they do not receive any opposition to their affairs.
    1. Dad Uassia
      Dad Uassia 9 December 2015 17: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Glot
      Ankara will do its business under any pretext and will buy oil from anyone; she himself is not a brother.


      In fact, this is a key phrase. They do what they need, and they wanted to spit on everyone.
      You can condemn, shout what they are and so on and so forth, they spit on all this. Since besides words, they do not receive any opposition to their affairs.

      We need to act like the Turks. Do what we consider necessary. And the crow of the West.
  5. Megatron
    Megatron 9 December 2015 06: 35 New
    +1
    Turkish mongrel is behaving more and more impudently. And while all these complaints to the UN Security Council, tearful statements and other air shocks, they only become impudent. It seems like it's time to give the teeth. Or again, all around will express only "concern" ???
    1. FiremamRescueS
      FiremamRescueS 9 December 2015 08: 03 New
      0
      Just a nightmare. The Turks are becoming more impudent, as if sitting in Christ's bosom. The mattresses apparently gave them carte blanche for any action.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 9 December 2015 08: 24 New
        +1
        Christ's bosom

        You probably wanted to say to Alah? But on this occasion, the GDP is clearly expressed.
        1. Megatron
          Megatron 9 December 2015 15: 09 New
          +1
          Well, clearly it is clear, but so far there is nothing to see except the tomato.
          Waiting?
      2. Things
        Things 9 December 2015 11: 10 New
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        Quote: FiremamRescueS
        The Turks are becoming more impudent, Mattresses apparently gave them blank cards for any action.

        Definitely!
        To single-handedly shout at such a “rampage” even the nutty Erdik would not have the courage.
        Apparently, he was personally promised support not only by representatives of the States, but also by Britain, Canada, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.
        1. Cap.Morgan
          Cap.Morgan 9 December 2015 16: 41 New
          0
          Arabs do not genetically love Turks; 400 million Arabs.
  6. Taygerus
    Taygerus 9 December 2015 07: 00 New
    +1
    The impudent Turks should be put in place as soon as possible, they wanted to sneeze on diplomatic measures, the Americans should be bombed by ERROR, and then they should not be recognized as a blatant bombing, let them try to prove something like this
  7. nikkon09
    nikkon09 9 December 2015 07: 03 New
    +3
    As Comrade Sukhov-Vostok used to say, this is a delicate matter. So, it is alarming that Iraq wanted to turn to Russia, and not to the United States or China there. Moreover, the United States seems to owe Iraq its presence there.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 9 December 2015 10: 33 New
      0
      So, after all, the Americans brought democracy to Iraq, and since then only pro-Iranian Shiites have won in democratic elections, because there are just 2/3 of their countries. wassat

      Iraq has very strained relations with the United States. They did not grapple seriously, just because half of the country fell away from Iraq and the United States seemed to be fighting against those who had taken half the country.
  8. Grbear
    Grbear 9 December 2015 07: 13 New
    +4
    They say: - "The Turks are overgrown. They need ta-ta-ta ...". They did not overthrow anything. Normal NATO policy, mixed with economics. Syrian Kurds, at the very least, negotiate with Assad and daish squeeze together from Syria, and Iraqi are under US patronage. Here are the Turks and change the "suppliers" of oil from Syrian to Iraqi. Imagine for a moment what kind of logistics and banking chains were involved in Syria and all this you offer to cheat. Today, under the "distribution", Iraq specifically falls with Kurdish-Daishev autonomy on its territory under the "sensitive" leadership of the Turks and the cover of Nata.
    Iraq "kirdyk" in terms of territories and no UN will help. hi
    1. Eggor
      Eggor 9 December 2015 08: 17 New
      +3
      The purpose of this intervention is not to root out Daesh, but to oust him in Al-Anbar, to conduct ethnic cleansing this time in northern Syria and create a new Kurdistan state there.

      Comparative maps showing territories controlled by Kurdish armed groups in Syria and Iraq in 2014 and 2015.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 9 December 2015 10: 38 New
        +3
        Kurds are very interesting people, everyone is there for himself. Kurds at Hasake, for example, let the broads of Babakhs go to Turkey for a little money and still guard on the way.

        The Kurds of Stalin generally want to build their own little Kurdistan and they wanted to cheat on others.

        The most heroic Kurds in Aleppo are not displayed on the map - they are white, and red, and again white, and again red. In general, from the beginning of the flurry, they greeted everyone with dense fire, whoever did not go to them in the city area, army men Assad, IS, Ahrara / Nusra, more moderate women.

        For good, you need to paint the map of the Kurds in clans and everything will not be so beautiful there. Some clans agree with the Baboons and Turks, some are irreconcilable and help the same PKK, some sit on the priest exactly, receiving money and weapons from Europe to fight the IS.
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  10. parusnik
    parusnik 9 December 2015 07: 36 New
    +6
    The Turks went to the All-In Bank .. And behind the back of the United States with NATO .. ​​Someone really wants the world to blaze like a haystack ...
  11. Belousov
    Belousov 9 December 2015 08: 18 New
    +4
    Well, they will gather the UN, but what's the point? Will they express concern and after that the frightened Erdogan will leave for the monastery? Only carpet bombing will stop him. But this is the path to global war. Alas...
  12. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 9 December 2015 08: 43 New
    +3
    It seems that the Great Redistribution begins in this region. Great war can not be avoided. The situation reminds me of Europe, before the First World War.
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 9 December 2015 09: 35 New
      0
      Quote: vladimirvn
      The situation reminds me of Europe, before the First World War.

      nothing in common.
    2. atakan
      atakan 9 December 2015 14: 27 New
      0
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Great redistribution begins in this region.

      HARAZA, begins, is already entering the final phase.
  13. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 9 December 2015 08: 56 New
    -1
    Erdagan is already tired of everyone, and the hosts because of the puddle as well. It’s time to already collect “cases” for the war crimes tribunal of terrorists and their accomplices.
  14. From Samara
    From Samara 9 December 2015 09: 24 New
    -4
    A good excuse for a Blow to Turkey.
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 9 December 2015 09: 34 New
      -1
      Quote: From Samara
      A good excuse for a Blow to Turkey.

      for whom?
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      2. From Samara
        From Samara 9 December 2015 10: 06 New
        0
        For Russia and Iraq. Iraq signs a treaty with us on mutual assistance in an act of aggression, we are demolishing Turkey. Let the prosperous NATO countries be on the threshold of Armageddon ... otherwise they lost touch with reality!
        1. Dad Uassia
          Dad Uassia 9 December 2015 17: 07 New
          -1
          Lol The US Army is in Iraq. As soon as we try to demolish Turkey, all of NATO will enter the war, or they will kill us economically. That oil is already below 40 bucks ..
  15. vvp2412
    vvp2412 9 December 2015 09: 46 New
    +1
    They sent several DRGs there with anti-tank systems, and they would have burned all their armored personnel carriers! And they would say - we know nothing. It’s local people who shot you! They humanitarian aid from the United States drove the planes!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 9 December 2015 10: 41 New
      +3
      There it is necessary to carry 120-130 km across the territory of the Islamic State, with 40-50 km of closed zones, defense sectors of Mosul. There for espionage everyone who doesn’t like to be cut, including children. And the DRG with the ATGM will definitely become the hero of the next Keane from the IG.

      Then you need to travel 25-30 km through the territory of the Kurds of Barzani and also frontline zones.

      And only then you can see the base.
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    3. creak
      creak 9 December 2015 11: 56 New
      0
      Quote: vvp2412
      They sent several DRGs there with anti-tank systems, and they would have burned all their armored personnel carriers! And they would say - we know nothing.


      What about taking such a “walk” yourself and showing how it is done? ...
      Well, at least burn if not all, but at least one tank or armored personnel carrier ...
      Didn’t they confuse reality with the World of Tanks game? ... what
  16. Mexovoy
    Mexovoy 9 December 2015 10: 47 New
    +1
    The Turks sent their troops to clear the evidence. No witnesses, no problems. Iraq gave them the second day.
  17. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 9 December 2015 11: 02 New
    +1
    Turkish military invited Iraqi Kurds.
    They have autonomy within Iraq. Iraqi army
    and the government has not controlled this area for several years.
    1. builder
      builder 9 December 2015 11: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Turkish military invited Iraqi Kurds.

      Kurds agreed on the unacceptability of Turkey’s invasion of Iraq.
      http://www.rg.ru/2015/12/08/kurdi-site-anons.html
  18. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 9 December 2015 11: 08 New
    +4
    The situation, we add from ourselves, illustrates the priority of the economy over politics. The Turks - more precisely, those Turks who are vitally interested in the large cross-border oil business - are not worried about fighting the IG, allegedly training the Kurds under the noses of the militants, but about the profits that the crude oil trade promises, including dumping.
    or maybe the Turks keep IS on "self-sufficiency", and that is very convenient and economical, while this chain grouping clears the space for the Ottoman Empire. Then, of course, evil will be punished by a coalition in the form of the United States in the air and Turkey on earth.
    In the presence of Turkish troops, Erbil could go for independence. Then the process of the collapse of Iraq may begin. ”
    Yes, this process is already in full swing!
    the explicit support of our star-striped partners. And how Iraq would no longer be divided between Kurds and Turks on the terms of the Americans. Of course, not everything goes according to their plan, but the Turks seem to drive a wedge between the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds with access to the border with Saudi Arabia. And this, the “Qatari pipe” will go on a campaign bypassing Syria a sort of “hook” through Iraq to Turkey, and a proud but dependent Europe looms there.
  19. Junior Cook
    Junior Cook 9 December 2015 11: 18 New
    0
    Hitler captured half of Europe, and the rest of the world declared war on him, and Stalin captured half of Europe and the whole world applauded him and sent congratulatory telegrams. So now you need to act in the east.
  20. AFG-X
    AFG-X 9 December 2015 11: 21 New
    +2
    The Turks completely lost their fear. angry
  21. 31rus
    31rus 9 December 2015 11: 49 New
    +1
    Dear UN convocation, only to the advantage of Turkey, why I explain, this allows you to introduce a new figure of Borzani, who will naturally cooperate with wealthy Turkey than with the government of Iraq, the Turks get oil, Borzani money, and Iraq will lose its territory and not the UN, nor the USA the more Russians will affect this situation, another option is the US intermediary and again Turkey’s oil, profits, partly Iraq, partly Borzani, but who will monitor production and income distribution, it’s clear the USA and Turkey
  22. Bakht
    Bakht 9 December 2015 12: 13 New
    +5
    Tarasov, as always, excelled. You do not need to be a political scientist to take a ruler and attach it to a map. Mosul is at least a hundred km from the border. The only reason for the deployment of troops is to maintain control over oil flows. It is clear that Russia will not back down and sooner or later, oil from Syria will end. But such a scumbag as Erdogan has no desire to hang out with Russia. Another thing is Iraq, where the Americans command.

    Here, in recent days, in connection with the inadequacy of Erdogan, much has been written about independent Kurdistan. Must disappoint idealists. In the South Caucasus and the Middle East, they always knew who the Kurds were. Synonym: thief and traitor. If Russia does such stupidity as supporting an independent Kurdistan, then nothing good will come of it. Erdogan’s diagnosis has already been made. But the Kurds still have to make a diagnosis. The only way out is to try to keep the state in its original form. But since 2003, the West has successfully destroyed these states. It is easier to take resources from territories without statehood.

    Opportunities of the Russian Federation? Very limited. Spraying forces also on the Iraqi front - the navel may come loose. Shaking papers at the UN - this is Churkin and it will all end with papers. The West will veto any decision against Turkey. We should rather finish the bodyagion in Syria. Like it or not - but without the participation of Russian special forces can not do. It is necessary to prepare the infrastructure, political cover and introduce several battalions of special forces or airborne forces. All at the request of the Syrian government. Iranian troops must work in Iraq.

    And with the Kurds? Well, the Kurds themselves must deal with the Kurds. Barzani betrayed his brothers in Turkey. If there is an independent Iraqi Kurdistan, then Barzani betrayed the idea of ​​an independent Kurdistan as a whole. Bucks outweighed patriotism. Kurd Ocalan is in a Turkish prison, and Kurd Barzani asks for the entry of Turkish troops into Kurdistan. Turkish military bombing Kurdish villages in Turkey and Syria and helping Kurds in Iraq.

    Absurd. I'm afraid we will see the most incredible alliances in the near future.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 9 December 2015 14: 17 New
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      Quote: Bakht
      then Barzani betrayed the idea of ​​independent Kurdistan as a whole.

      It’s like a world revolution, but Kurdish Barzani decided to build Kurdistan in a single country, doesn’t it remind you of anything? :-)
    2. Lekxnumx
      Lekxnumx 9 December 2015 15: 56 New
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      "A synonym for a thief is a traitor" For whom for the Panturkists? For me, too, they were such because of propaganda, but I didn’t speak with my cousins ​​Amy oglu for a long time. One works in Bursa (Elmir); another works in Van (Samir). The gendarmerie went out for $ 800, then the Turks pulled up all over Bursa to hunt for him. He called his brother Samir and who helped? Kurds gathered from Van and went to Bursa. The Azian language and the Kurdish emphasis on manners in Turkish are almost the same and the Kurds with the Azians are on good terms. The question is which Turks in Turkey Samir answers people without understanding can only crowd on one and of course dilvuranlar you yourself surely know that this is a favorite pastime of the Turks work with the language. And therefore, they were not respected by the normal Baku People who grew up according to Baku concepts and will not be generally respected with their goat beards under their lower lips who like to tickle? , Kurds compared with them the standard of self-esteem.
  23. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 9 December 2015 12: 39 New
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    Erdagan is already tired of everyone, and the hosts because of the puddle as well. It’s time to already collect “cases” for the war crimes tribunal of terrorists and their accomplices.

    Who is that SMART?
    What terrorists do not need to be judged? Do you want to judge the DAISH associates, too? And Erdogan is that cool guy?
    Sure !!! The facts of the crime of both terrorists and their accomplices should be collected for further trial, similar to the Hague.
  24. vo3
    vo3 9 December 2015 14: 49 New
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    In the context of this topic, I would like to return to the issue of our downed aircraft. In my opinion, it is not closed. I mean all the illegal actions of Turkey in terms of violating international rules. In the situation with the SU-24M, there were two options for Turkey's behavior. If they believe that they had the right to shoot down a plane that they believed to have invaded Turkish airspace, they should have provided official evidence. These are photographs of the screens of surveillance panels of tracking systems, including space and air conditions, linked to the border line. Second, officers' negotiations observation-dispatchers with a report on airspace violation. Third, the negotiations of the pilots who took part in the downing of the aircraft. Even if they will be in Turkish. Other documents clarifying the situation. All these documents must be certified and transmitted through the official channels of the foreign ministries.
    And the second option. Formal apology with obligations to indemnify. There is no third option. As long as this is not the question is not closed.
  25. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 9 December 2015 16: 07 New
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    The situation illustrates that only a lazy one does not wipe his feet on Russia, and the whole West and NATO, led by a mattress, do not give a damn what Russia thinks and says there.
    1. rubidiy
      rubidiy 9 December 2015 19: 35 New
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      they don’t judge by themselves. You know, there is such an expression.

      There is no respect in the world, no respect. No. There are afraid and not afraid. Counted and not counted.
      And all this is based solely on the strength and weakness of specific countries. I will not rassusolivat, just list.
      In fact, before the entry of the Russian aerospace forces into Syria:
      - Syria should have ceased to exist as a real sovereign state.
      - The Saudis and Qatar are building their oil and gas pipelines through its territory.
      - The Middle East is finally and irrevocably losing its independence by being divided into tidbits. To whom oil, to whom the solution of ethnic and territorial problems, to whom geopolitical benefits, to whom new sales markets, etc.
      - Russia and Iran are flooded with a wave of terror. What should be the first stage of their destruction.
      What we have now:
      - Saudi and Qatar tuna with their plans for the construction of gas pipelines and raking the entire Middle East (BV) for themselves.
      - There is a consolidated block of countries, which can really become a counterbalance to the influence of the West on BV. Yes, only Iran is a more or less substantial force. But this is only for now. The prospect of strengthening Syria and Iraq is not as vague as before Russian intervention. Alas, if Syria can still be kept, then Iraq will become a counterbalance only as a result of a large redistribution.
      - The main thing is that a kind of geopolitical bridgehead has been created from which you can act. At the moment, the maximum program includes, first of all, the destruction of Turkey as a state, the preservation of strategic partnership and sovereignty of Syria, Iran and Iraq.

      It must be understood that if this is not done, then Russia and its population will slowly and painfully destroy. If this is done without losing its military potential, then Russia will protect itself for many decades to come. And I do not exaggerate. Trivially listed the main options.
  26. potap6509
    potap6509 9 December 2015 17: 18 New
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    With this mother must be rescued for Erdogan.
  27. Prutkov
    Prutkov 9 December 2015 18: 51 New
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    Independent Kurdistan is unlikely to be recognized, as it will be necessary to automatically recognize the separation of Crimea from Ukraine. The hegemon will not do this. And as part of Iraq, autonomous Kurdistan cannot declare that "Kurdish oil and nobody else."
    1. rubidiy
      rubidiy 9 December 2015 19: 55 New
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      Do you not have enough double standards in recent years? wink It will be necessary - they recognize Kurdistan. It will not be necessary - the Crimea will not be recognized. Everything is simple.
      Russia needs both Crimea to be recognized and Kurdistan, but in Turkey. If anything, then Kurdish oil is just easier to squeeze, if Kurdistan is established in Turkey. So the main thing is not to give Syria.
  28. jovanni
    jovanni 9 December 2015 20: 47 New
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    "... Everything is possible for the figures in Ankara - after all, they are covered by the Americans."
    is the key phrase of the whole article ...
  29. Stilet
    Stilet 9 December 2015 21: 57 New
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    It is necessary to restore the combat effectiveness of the Syrian army and close the passages to the border with Turkey. Until the infantry occupies the territory, the territory is not under control. All efforts should be directed to closing the border. Then everyone will sit on the fifth point - and the Turks, and the Saudis with the Qatari, and the Kurds may grow wiser. It is clear that Turkey is trying to break through and stake its corridor to its border. I think that they will have the next step in organizing such events, but already closer to their border. With these steps, they dissect the Kurds and make their rallying difficult (divide and conquer), and in turn, alienate Assad, because the main flow of oil will go through them, and Assad will get a state with destroyed infrastructure and a bunch of bearded basmachi. The conflict goes into a dynamic stage. Aviation must live in the sky over Syria! More SU-25M ...
  30. Bakht
    Bakht 9 December 2015 23: 01 New
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    According to recent reports, the Turks successfully bombed in the Kurdish camps. What Barzani will say is interesting.

    Well, according to the most recent data, Erdogan in the hospital with paralysis. According to his wife, the bathroom had a terrible smell. Putin must have called him and he made a mess right in the shower.
  31. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 10 December 2015 02: 22 New
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    Turkey is so impudent because of its support by amers.
    The latter incite her to various kinds of provocations.