Flight tests of the PAK FA are nearing completion.

Flight tests PAK FA (T-50) are close to completion, the aircraft confirms all the characteristics embedded in it, transmits RIA News the message of the deputy head of the Ministry of Defense Yuri Borisov.

“Now several planes are being tested, first of all, tests of radio-electronic equipment and various means of destruction. In fact, the tests that confirmed the aircraft’s performance have been completed, ”Borisov said on the Russia-24 channel.

Help Agency: “T-50 (project PAK FA) - the fifth generation aircraft, equipped with a fundamentally new avionics complex and advanced radar with a phased antenna array. The first flight took place on 29 on January 2010 of the year in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, the first public demonstration of the fighter was 17 on August 2011 of the year at the International Aviation and Space Show MAKS-2011 in Zhukovsky near Moscow. ”

Comments

[Minsk]

And you can try it in Syria!

[oleg-gr]

Finally. We are waiting for mass production. It is a pity that the new engine is promised only by 2020.

[cniza]

Quote: oleg-gr

Finally. We are waiting for mass production.

There should be several options on this platform.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Yes, let them already rivet T-50 with AL-41 engines, how much can you have already? Better yet, you can minus me, throw all your strength into the mass production of Su-35, 150-200 commercials. War smells.

[fox21h]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Yes, let them already rivet T-50 with AL-41 engines, how much can you have already? Better yet, you can minus me, throw all your strength into the mass production of Su-35, 150-200 commercials. War smells.

Yes, and no longer smells, but stinks ...

[Andriikaa]

And then you can change the engines? On already issued aircraft.

[silver_roman]

in theory, yes. Aircraft resource is much more than an engine resource.
Must be unified with AL-41 on the ligue

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Yes, let them already rivet T-50 with AL-41 engines, how much can you have already? Better yet, you can minus me, throw all your strength into the mass production of Su-35, 150-200 commercials. War smells.

And they started talking about the T-90MS ...

[meriem1]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Yes, let them already rivet T-50 with AL-41 engines, how much can you have already? Better yet, you can minus me, throw all your strength into the mass production of Su-35, 150-200 commercials. War smells.

War just carries !!! We need to build up an armory. And you Native only plus!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Yes, let them already rivet T-50 with AL-41 engines, how much can you have already? Better yet, you can minus me, throw all your strength into the mass production of Su-35, 150-200 commercials. War smells.

In addition to PAK FA, SU-35 there is also a fleet, Strategic Missile Forces, ground component with the expectation of T-14, T-15, etc. ... and all this needs money.
And besides the defense industry, there is also medicine, education, agriculture, industry ... It’s clear your desire to equip our army with all the most modern and as fast as possible, but you need to understand that in addition to the airborne forces in Russia there are other types of troops that are also waiting for an update (rearmament).
Best regards

[Aleksandr1959]

Andrey, you are absolutely right. Spend a lot on that. therefore, it is worth choosing the most priority, breakthrough projects. While not forgetting about social programs.
Perestroika and the 90s will still haunt us for a long time.

[Voyager]

Dear, do you really think that 150-200 Su-35s (and even T-50s) can turn the tide of the war or prevent this event? Let's not escalate the atmosphere with war, but we will think constructively. The Su-35 enters the troops as planned, by the time it will be possible to order a new batch, the PAK FA will be ready.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Voyager

Dear, do you really think 150-200 pieces of Su-35

We have planned, in addition to the 48 SU-35s that entered the troops, to purchase 48 units by 2020 ... 200 SU-35 is a "Wishlist" that is not even physically feasible.

[Voyager]

Yes, I know, namesake. I must admit, although a "Wishlist", but more 35s would be just great. On the other hand, there are complaints about avionics and other components.

[andrei.yandex]

No one will fight with us globally, as long as there is nuclear weapons, but a civilian one, for which there are all prerequisites, parallels that know the preconditions of 1917 on the face. But the fact that no one needs to rearm the army is not opposed.

[ver_]

... what is this stuffing for? ... a complete lack of specifics and information, there is nothing to take in your mouth ..

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: ver_

... a complete lack of specifics and information, there is nothing to take in your mouth ..

I also eat in it.

[arane]

Quote: ver_

... what is this stuffing for? ... a complete lack of specifics and information, there is nothing to take in your mouth ..

Vera! Plus, I agree. But they laughed .....
Do not be offended

[Alexey-74]

Yes, we are waiting for the T-50 in series ..... I hope it will go at an accelerated pace

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Alexey-74

Yes, we are waiting for the T-50 in series ..... I hope it will go at an accelerated pace

Alexei, what about the engine? Same shock pace?

[silver_roman]

at least 10 aircraft per year !!! In general, it would be cool to reach the pace of the Su-34. They practically put 2 squadrons per wing per year, overfulfilling the plan.
PAK FA needs a separate line or even a whole workshop with several lines. As for the S-400, 2 plants were built separately.

[silver_roman]

engines earlier and could not have been. By the way, there is infa that these will not be quite full-fledged engines of the "5th generation", but some kind of another modernization of the AL-41F1 with nodes from the new engine. I do not pretend to be true, but I saw such an ifna somewhere.
I also heard that there are problems with the glider, namely with the rigidity of the frame. (sorry for the terminology, I may not be accurate).
By the way, it would be nice if any of our specialists tracked the Old and cut off all kinds of rumors that could not be true. For the unknowing, this will not be easy, because sometimes a lie is like the truth and only the special can weed it out.
For example, at what stage is the AFAR? I heard that it seems to be going according to plan, but still there are incidents when it does not work in normal mode.
Also infa slipped that already tested 8 aircraft. Is this true or have I been behind recently?
By the way, I want to see those who shouted here that in 2018 there will already be an engine, and in the years 15-16 they will begin to take in the series. I won’t poke my fingers, I think they will understand everything!
Bondarev does not soar in temporary errors: a couple of years in advance is not a question !!!
I agree with Comrade Nevsky: you need 35C and 30CM to rivet more. The 5th is still not so run-in and longer in the assembly, but on the 30th it seems like everything is already settled. Good export helped!

[War and Peace]

Well, what have we been experiencing for five years, how will the second stage engine wait there or will they start production on the AL-41? China is already scoring dozens of its fifths ...

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: War and Peace

Well, what have we been experiencing for five years, how will the second stage engine wait there or will they start production on the AL-41? China is already scoring dozens of its fifths ...

A colleague, though only the top ten, and then not serial.

[Alexey-74]

It's too early, too expensive car, God forbid that something goes wrong

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

throw all their forces into mass production of the Su-35, some 150-200.

2oo Su-35 will be very handy but PAK FA is a breakthrough in flight and information-board technologies. And this unit will set the tone in the development of domestic aviation for decades to come. Therefore, it is necessary to equip our air forces with PAK FA squadrons as much as possible, the modular principle and perfect avionics give great opportunities for modernizing the aircraft in the future, therefore, you should strain and separate the production under it. It should be taken into account that the Chinese after buying our Su-35 will not stop there and continue the development of their 5th generation at a new level. Therefore, only the PAK FA will allow you to keep which parity. A large series will make the product cheaper. Plus an export version. In general, Borisov’s statement for me personally is somewhat unexpected ... silence, silence, and suddenly again! A breakthrough, the final test. Tempting, very tempting!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Thunderbolt

2oo Su-35 will be very handy

Excuse me, is there anything that we have in the VKS just 48 SU-35? Or does it bother you?

[ABVGDEZH]

Tanks and other BMs can definitely be tested there.

[Ros 56]

Sorry, but think before you say it.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Minsky

And you can try it in Syria!

I watch many members of the forum, when they hear about the new Russian weapon, they "drag" it to Syria. And I don't care that this is an experimental vehicle that has not passed the state testing. When it was announced that 20 Armata tanks were transferred for testing, they also shouted, Give it to Syria. Maybe it's time to stop this Syrian hysteria, and end with "the desire to drag everything to Syria"?
In the Middle East there is something to fight for. Before the PAK FA, S-400, Almaty, etc., who do not know, the army, VKS and fleet of the Russian Federation had both planes and ships and tanks.
PAK FA in the form that it is now a pre-production car. It is brought to mind, eliminating "childhood diseases" and defects. What is this "raw" experimental car to do in Syria?

[Grenader]

Quote: NEXUS

I watch many members of the forum, when they hear about the new Russian weapon, they "drag" it to Syriyu. And I don't care that this is an experimental vehicle that has not passed the state tests.

Yes. So far, they have not adopted anything to send. But here the Ka -52 and Mi-28 to run in it would be quite logical. Since there is a conflict in which we are participating, we need to use it to test new models in combat conditions. In the USSR, this was a common practice.

[Aleksandr1959]

In the USSR, this was a common practice.

It was. Tests of the MiG-25 RB in the Middle East (1972). Tests of the Su-25 in Afghanistan before the completion of the GI (theme "Rhombus" - "Tests of the Su-25 attack aircraft in special conditions"). But this was not common practice.

[Aleksandr1959]

I watch many members of the forum, when they hear about the new Russian weapon, they "drag" it to Syriyu. And I don't care that this is an experimental vehicle that has not passed the state tests.

Exactly. Since, after conducting a GI, the GI Act contains lists of shortcomings, including list No. 1 (shortcomings that must be eliminated by industry before adopting a model for arming). A list of remedial actions is being developed, agreed with the customer, and then implemented.
GI is essentially a test of a single aircraft. And then military tests. development of a manual for combat use. It holds the Lipetsk Center.

[Mercenary]

This handsome man has other goals and objectives!

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Minsky

And you can try it in Syria!

[Jozhkin Cat]

Have you already installed a new engine on it ??

[Semen Semyonitch]

Not yet used ...

[guzik007]

they’ll deliver new dvigles, and according to the new test of the year, no less than three. The armaments for the internal compartments are also under development, they will deliver, again a series of tests. So it’s not so simple, all planes have been running around for years before a series. And by that time avionics is already hopelessly outdated (on the example of mobile phones) We will have patience.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Yozhkin Cat

Have you already installed a new engine on it ??

Unfortunately, not yet.

[ILIA]

no one will let ...

[ILYA M]

And they’ll do it right.

[Wild_grey_wolf]

The news is great, the main thing is that this is really so.
Good luck in the air is our hero.

[Yak-3P]

come on, come on !!!! do beautiful !! all-higher-and-higher - and higher .. and instead of a heart a fiery motor ...

[YaMZ-238]

It would be more likely to see this handsome man in action ..

[bugrovata]

Handsome man! Here you have a plus!

[Mountain shooter]

What complicated and expensive airplanes have become. And the pilots that fly them - I just can't imagine, gets into a "wheelbarrow" worth under one hundred million dollars, and ... If it breaks, no car service will fix it.
Whatever you say, beautiful planes are made here. Only Mig 1.44 was out of line - but it was invented to save KB.

[Svarog5570]

War can already be said to knock on the door. our fellows just should not be delayed with access to mass production

[0255]

I would like to hope that everything will be fine with the T-50

[nimboris]

Higher and higher and higher
We strive to fly our birds.
And in every propeller breathes
The calm of our borders.

[kartalovkolya]

"Carlson's song on the military trail", he is the same thing with a propeller in one place! All jokes, but one thing is good is that there is no lagging behind the West in military aviation. The quality is wonderful, but you need to catch up and surpass in quantitative terms! More likely, the troops would have new equipment and more, otherwise there were a lot of people willing to test us for strength! Even the beaten-killed Turks went there too!

[Ros 56]

In general, aircraft of this type, or rather aviation strike systems, are not YAKs, MIGs and Lavochkin's during the Second World War, although I admire them. Then the plane lived several battles, if you are lucky and ready. This one replaces, I think, more than one squadron, and is designed for more than a dozen years. Therefore, before you start up into battle, you need to rehearse everything. Yes, and there is no such need, to drag him to Syria, there even the thirty-fifth was not marked. As they say, live in Japanese - "not nada tarapis, not nada valnavasa."

[voyaka uh]

"This one replaces, I think, more than one squadron, and it is not
for one dozen years. "////

It depends on the situation.
If different generations meet, the "mortality" of the older generation
becomes overwhelming.

In 1982, over Lebanon, the Syrian Air Force (3rd generation) was lost in a collision with the 4th generation
2/3 combat aircraft in just 3-4 days. The plane made only one sortie and died.
Moreover, the Syrian pilots were good and brave. They simply did not see the enemy.
The range of radars and rockets in the 4th generation has increased dramatically.
(I'm not trying to brag about the achievements of the Israeli Air Force - we just took a chance and replaced in time
generation of technology).

Therefore, it is critically important for Russia to quickly bring the T-50 to mind and produce them large
quantity. At some point, generation 4 - 4 ++, no matter how wonderful it is, will stop "working".

[Zomanus]

Interestingly, a test in Syria is supposed?
In general, of course, such a development of our armed forces is pleased.
And we already believe that by the 20 year we will be with a completely different army.
Unless of course they give us so much time.

[Hiw]

what kind of alarmism is it - the war is knocking on the door ??? ...... let's rivet the su-35 ..... if there will be some kind of global war, then our S-300 and S-400 are not one of their "F" will fly by without loss, and what we already have in terms of aircraft is quite on a level to compete with the fifth generation of the f-22 type, but excuse me for a military time to stop working for the future

[31rus]

Well done, just don’t be surprised dear subpoena

[31rus]

Well done, just don’t be surprised dear subpoena

[cergey51046]

Words alone, but no deeds.

[31rus]

What to write as soon as we wait and believe

[barsik92090]

Quote: ver_

... what is this stuffing for? ... a complete lack of specifics and information, there is nothing to take in your mouth ..

Before use, brush your teeth.

[Victor1]

They will release 1 squadron - 12 pieces, so that the military will get used to the plane and learn to fly it. Until there is a modified T50 with engines of the 2nd stage, it makes no sense to buy it in bulk.
It’s better now to focus on the SU35, it’s the best aircraft at the moment and has hit it a lot. And given all the tension that is happening now in the world, the more modern military equipment we have, the better.
And when the T50 is finalized and receives a 2nd stage engine, then it will be necessary to purchase it in bulk.

[chunga-changa]

I wonder how they can come to an end if the aircraft do not have full-time engines and radars. Then they will conduct a new full test cycle, and the aircraft will be called t-60?

[Victor1]

Now this is a plane of the first stage, when there will be an engine of the 2nd stage, there will be an aircraft of the second stage.
SU27 also went to the troops already finalized.

[R-22]

simulators must be prepared for high-quality training of pilots