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Russian ambassador summoned to Turkish Foreign Ministry and outlined Ankara’s position on the “incident” in the Bosphorus

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On Monday, the Russian ambassador in Ankara, Andrei Karlov, met with the head of the Turkish Foreign Ministry’s department, Burak Ozügergin, who brought the official position of Ankara to the Russian diplomat in connection with the recent “incident” in the Bosphorus, reports RIA News.




Recently, in Turkish editions, a photograph of the passing of the bays of the Russian ship “Caesar Kunikov” appeared, on board of which there was a soldier holding MANPADS. The head of the Foreign Ministry, Mevlüt Cavusoglu, called such a behavior a provocation.

“The Russian ambassador to Turkey Andrei Karlov was invited today, December 7, to our ministry and was received by the head of the department for bilateral political issues, maritime, aviation and border affairs by Burak Ozyugergin. The ambassador was invited to our ministry due to the fact that during the passage of the Russian warship Caesar Kunikov through the straits on December 4, one of the Russian military was spotted with a ground-to-air missile system on his shoulder, ”
says the message of the Turkish Ministry.

"This is contrary to the Montreux Convention on the status of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles, as well as international law," the ministry said.

“We expect that actions that are not related to the passage (through the strait) will no longer be repeated,” the Turkish Foreign Ministry added.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 8 December 2015 08: 33 New
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    Recently, in Turkish editions, a photograph of the passing of the bays of the Russian ship “Caesar Kunikov” appeared, on board of which there was a soldier holding MANPADS. The head of the Foreign Ministry, Mevlüt Cavusoglu, called such a behavior a provocation.



    They will seriously present this photo - toad or this show-off to indicate their concern.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 8 December 2015 08: 35 New
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      Quote: cniza
      In all seriousness, they will present this photo - a toad or a show-off to indicate their concern.

      Turks are looking for any reason for escalation. Apparently they are still sleeping and see the closure of the strait for our ships. It seems that they have already received consent from the State Department.
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 8 December 2015 08: 39 New
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        Quote: SRC P-15
        Turks are looking for any reason for escalation.

        yes elementary arrows translate. We realized that we’ll have to answer for the downed drying and Sasha’s will not help
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 8 December 2015 08: 52 New
          36
          No matter how their navel unblocked the straits! Or did Erdogan’s Wishlist grow to such an extent that he decided to measure his strength with Russia ?! What does history teach absolutely nothing ?! Oh well! Apparently then you really have to make Constantinople a Greek city, and Ararat an Armenian mountain!
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 8 December 2015 10: 31 New
            +3
            So the "shooter" was plywood.
            1. aleks 62 next
              aleks 62 next 8 December 2015 13: 50 New
              +1
              ..... So the shooter was plywood ....


              .... Judging by their logic, it is necessary to dismantle the AK-630 during the passage !!!! laughing .... And then inadvertently suddenly shmallut !!!! laughing
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 8 December 2015 10: 55 New
            +5
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            No matter how their navel unblocked the straits! Or did Erdogan’s Wishlist grow to such an extent that he decided to measure his strength with Russia ?! What does history teach absolutely nothing ?! Oh well! Apparently then you really have to make Constantinople a Greek city, and Ararat an Armenian mountain!

            Each louse imagines itself to be a Goliath. Turkey’s rhetoric is understood as lowing, maybe Washington is behind Ankara. It's like a gopnik’s gang, there’s a “strong man”, and there’s a jerk that starts any conflict, “bullying” verbally, knowing that if it starts a fight, not he, but this strong man will fight. From this, a frail, vile bully opens up "verbal diarrhea" and "immense courage."
          3. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 8 December 2015 11: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            No matter how their navel unblocked the straits! Or did Erdogan’s Wishlist grow to such an extent that he decided to measure his strength with Russia ?! What does history teach absolutely nothing ?! Oh well! Apparently then you really have to make Constantinople a Greek city, and Ararat an Armenian mountain!

            Dear Diana, let me have an uncomfortable question! Are you real, or so for ..... hi
      2. SSR
        SSR 8 December 2015 08: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Quote: cniza
        In all seriousness, they will present this photo - a toad or a show-off to indicate their concern.

        Turks are looking for any reason for escalation. Apparently they are still sleeping and see the closure of the strait for our ships.

        They sleep and see the dictating conditions of Russia, having placed the Anglo-Saxons and Nato behind them, history repeats itself, but will such a result be?
        They will deliberately escalate the situation in order to later blame Russia and, under the pretext of closing the strait.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 8 December 2015 09: 09 New
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          Quote: SSR

          They sleep and see the dictating conditions of Russia, having placed the Anglo-Saxons and Nato behind them, history repeats itself, but will such a result be?


          Mark my word, the result will be disastrous for Turkey, most likely with the loss of territories! It has always been this way, with the exception of the Crimean War, when England and France physically stood up for them not only morally but physically! England and France are now not in the shape to harness for the Turks, and America will not fight either, they will kick the Turks in the ass, push them, help them, but just not fight!
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 8 December 2015 09: 25 New
            +8
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            а America will not fight either, they will kick the Turks in the ass, push, tighten, but just do not fight!

            You are mistaken about this. The States is the only NATO ally that has reason to fight due to the fact that renouncing war is a recognition and renunciation of world leadership. Claims for world leadership.

            Simply, we would like to believe that they will not fight for the Turks.
            But how it will actually be unknown. We only know that let’s say Europeans do not need such a war, lay down bones in the name of Turkey, no, they’d better collect Volkswagen, eat pasta and listen to music (as I said).

            Another thing the United States, they are the masters of this alliance. Leadership is important to them, and the only thing they fear is the loss of such leadership.
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 8 December 2015 09: 51 New
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              Quote: _Vladislav_
              You are mistaken about this. The States is the only NATO ally that has reason to fight due to the fact that renouncing war is a recognition and renunciation of world leadership. Claims for world leadership.


              I’m ready to bet with you on a bottle of “Martini” that the Americans will not fight with Russia in spite of any leadership! Despite all the warlike rhetoric of their hawks, there are no fools to fight there, you can lose not only leadership, but also your head, and even the planet in addition! America is ruled not by Obama and the Clintons, but by the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, and these gentlemen need war only if others fight, but not the states!
              1. Ze Kot
                Ze Kot 8 December 2015 09: 55 New
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                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                I’m ready to bet with you on a bottle of “Martini” that the Americans will not fight with Russia in spite of any leadership!



                Like Russia will not fight with Turkey. And there will be no straits in the near future.
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                1. Gorinich
                  Gorinich 8 December 2015 12: 12 New
                  0
                  The whole problem is that nuclear weapons will not be used even in the event of a military conflict with Turkey.
                  1. 33 Watcher
                    33 Watcher 8 December 2015 15: 05 New
                    0
                    Why is this? The latest version of the doctrine just says the opposite.
              3. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ 8 December 2015 10: 29 New
                +2
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                I bet with you on a bottle of Martini that the Americans, in spite of any leadership, will not fight with Russia!

                You know winked
                If you are right, two bottles of Martini are with me. But if I am right, then we won’t need Martini.)

                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                America is ruled not by Obama and the Clintons, but by the Rothschilds and Rockefellers,

                Well, here I absolutely agree with you, well, there may not be Rothshelds ..... but the meaning is the same.

                PS
                And on the account of that - to fight not to fight.
                Remember the Caribbean Crisis. When the war could begin with the fact that two submarines, the American and the Soviet, did not collide in the Atlantic. It was possible to avoid this only because the captain of the Soviet submarine gave the order not to go to ram. And the Americans were determined.
                1. Ze Kot
                  Ze Kot 8 December 2015 10: 50 New
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                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  You know winked
                  If you are right, two bottles of Martini are with me. But if I am right, then we won’t need Martini.)



                  It will be needed by the survivors. So stock up.
                2. meriem1
                  meriem1 8 December 2015 10: 58 New
                  +1
                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  I bet with you on a bottle of Martini that the Americans, in spite of any leadership, will not fight with Russia!

                  You know winked
                  If you are right, two bottles of Martini are with me. But if I am right, then we won’t need Martini.)

                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  America is ruled not by Obama and the Clintons, but by the Rothschilds and Rockefellers,

                  Well, here I absolutely agree with you, well, there may not be Rothshelds ..... but the meaning is the same.

                  PS
                  And on the account of that - to fight not to fight.
                  Remember the Caribbean Crisis. When the war could begin with the fact that two submarines, the American and the Soviet, did not collide in the Atlantic. It was possible to avoid this only because the captain of the Soviet submarine gave the order not to go to ram. And the Americans were determined.


                  Where does this information come from ???? In the Black Sea "good" amers rammed without a twinge of conscience ... Americans are determined ??? Aw !! What world do you live in ???
                  1. _Vladislav_
                    _Vladislav_ 8 December 2015 11: 39 New
                    +1
                    Quote: meriem1
                    Where does this information come from ???? In the Black Sea "good" amers rammed without a twinge of conscience ... Americans are determined ??? Aw !! What world do you live in ???

                    Good gracious.
                    Let's take the recent past, and more specifically on August 12, 2000. Nuclear submarine Kursk.
                    What happened to her? She drowned.
                    What did the US Navy Memphis and Toledo submarines do there? And why were journalists not allowed (and not allowed) to take photographs, to remove the board of the K-141 raised from the bottom, on which the holes characteristic of the trail from hitting a torpedo are clearly visible.

                    But today, the Turks, with complete determination, flunked our Su-24. Having previously agreed upon this issue and the Pentagon coordinators. So what were you talking about the lack of determination?
                    Or maybe Russia, with full determination, shot down or destroyed one or two military units belonging to the countries of the NATO bloc?
                    1. 33 Watcher
                      33 Watcher 8 December 2015 15: 08 New
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                      Either one, and another from the category of tales, far-fetched ... Some of the journalists made good money on this then, and now many will earn.
              4. Things
                Things 8 December 2015 11: 39 New
                0
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                the Americans, in spite of any leadership, will not fight with Russia! these gentlemen need war only if others fight, but not the states!

                That's right!
                They learned the Vietnamese lesson for a long time, if not forever!
                To bomb almost defenseless Iraq and Libya, to drive shepherds in Afghanistan is one thing, and to enter the war with an equal and stronger opponent (Russia) is another ...
              5. Vladimir 1964
                Vladimir 1964 8 December 2015 12: 19 New
                0
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                I’m ready to bet with you on a bottle of “Martini” that the Americans will not fight with Russia in spite of any leadership! Despite all the warlike rhetoric of their hawks, there are no fools to fight there, you can lose not only leadership, but also your head, and even the planet in addition! America is ruled not by Obama and the Clintons, but by the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, and these gentlemen need war only if others fight, but not the states!

                And you are interesting, colleague, the truth is somewhat emotional. Nobody will give the bottle to you, of course, but it’s not possible to recognize your point of view as an “absolute” opportunity. Unfortunately, the war is already underway, albeit not active, and you are right in this part, but it’s going on, and the most unpleasant thing for our country is You don’t have to go far, you can just think about the actions taken, the same America in economic terms, and the situation in which our country finds itself. hi
              6. a71
                a71 8 December 2015 20: 58 New
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                I want to correct you, they will fight only when there is a gesheft. When this is available, they will fight not only with other people's meat (options are Afghanistan, Iraq, Grenada, Vietnam, Korea, the second front of the Great Patriotic War).
              7. Hardy
                Hardy 8 December 2015 21: 50 New
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                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                America is ruled not by Obama and the Clintons, but by the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, and these gentlemen need war only if others fight, but not the states!

                At the level of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, there’s simply no one to fight with))) Why should they fight if savages cut their throats to each other for their pieces of paper.
            2. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 8 December 2015 15: 20 New
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              Indirectly, yes, they are already fighting us in all directions. Directly no! Americans will never go to war with a more or less serious adversary. And the reason is simple, they are used to making profits from wars, and waging direct wars on economic fronts. But the war is wide, direct business is unprofitable, costly. True rulers of the world will begin to lose superprofits, according to this, a direct collision will not be allowed. And the war with Turkey will stop us from developing for 10 years, this is the most acceptable option for them. And what will happen to the Turks, they do not care, in general, as usual.
              But now our rulers need to make a serious decision, and make no mistake. Personally, I thought a lot, and with today's behavior of Turkey, I did not see a peaceful solution. Let us hope that our ruling men see him and know what will happen tomorrow.
              And if you don’t have to fight the Turks, we will certainly kill the Turks, but in this case we will return to the state of 1993-5, and everything will have to be done in a new way. And there we will be kindly offered a new enemy. And so on ... We need to look for a way out.
          2. meriem1
            meriem1 8 December 2015 10: 54 New
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            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Quote: SSR

            They sleep and see the dictating conditions of Russia, having placed the Anglo-Saxons and Nato behind them, history repeats itself, but will such a result be?


            Mark my word, the result will be disastrous for Turkey, most likely with the loss of territories! It has always been this way, with the exception of the Crimean War, when England and France physically stood up for them not only morally but physically! England and France are now not in the shape to harness for the Turks, and America will not fight either, they will kick the Turks in the ass, push them, help them, but just not fight!


            Everything was flooded there. Half a meter. Only they did not have a victory !!! And the Turks ... are just Turks! To vote is one thing, to fight is quite another. From under the silence drop planes and flee to NATO complain ??? This is a diagnosis ... and an indicator. Diana is right 200%
          3. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 8 December 2015 12: 04 New
            +1
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Mark my word, the result will be disastrous for Turkey, most likely with the loss of territories! It has always been this way, with the exception of the Crimean War, when England and France physically stood up for them not only morally but physically! England and France are now not in the shape to harness for the Turks, and America will not fight either, they will kick the Turks in the ass, push them, help them, but just not fight!

            Interesting comment! I do not want to offend you, Colleague, but what kind of war with the Ottoman Empire do you mean, there were several. And with different results. Colleague, hi .
            1. Weyland
              Weyland 9 December 2015 01: 50 New
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              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              what kind of war with the Ottoman Empire do you mean, there were several of them. And with different results.


              Well, except for the Crimean War, we lost as early as 1711m (Prut campaign). And most of the rest, EMNIP, won ...
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          4. WAP Master
            WAP Master 8 December 2015 14: 15 New
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            Who knows?))) Most likely America Erdogan will not kick in the ass, but ...

            Erdogan, Erdogan, turn to face Syria, and back to me. And bend a little fellow
        2. Douel
          Douel 8 December 2015 09: 38 New
          +4
          Having studied the tactics of GDP, I come to the conclusion: there will be maneuvers, maneuvers from a direct clash, in which the Russian Federation will act as an attacker.

          Although GDP, in the "history" of 08/08/08 was then the prime minister, nevertheless the aggressors were the first government of Saakashvili (Georgia does not intend to write).
          1. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 8 December 2015 09: 56 New
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            Quote: Douel
            Having studied the tactics of GDP, I come to the conclusion: there will be maneuvers, maneuvers from a direct clash, in which the Russian Federation will act as an attacker.



            That is chatter. But in the end, they will introduce another sanction against themselves.
            1. Ze Kot
              Ze Kot 8 December 2015 10: 50 New
              -1
              Who again secretly minus?

              Motivate!
      3. Al_oriso
        Al_oriso 8 December 2015 09: 26 New
        +3
        Turks are looking for any reason for escalation.

        He who seeks will always find ... major troubles.
      4. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 8 December 2015 11: 54 New
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        Quote: SRC P-15
        Turks are looking for any reason for escalation. Apparently they are still sleeping and see the closure of the strait for our ships. It seems that they have already received consent from the State Department.


        Alexander, do not consider that I am biased towards you. But on the other hand, what should the Turks do. They were mistaken, to say the least, now we must somehow try to “rehabilitate ourselves” to some extent. Therefore, I think this is not an escalation, in the full sense of this concept, but rather an attempt at some "rehabilitation". It is clear that the opinion is controversial, but I do not insist on the truth. Just the opinion of the site visitor.
        Something like that, colleague. hi
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 8 December 2015 14: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          They were mistaken, to say the least, now we must somehow try to “rehabilitate ourselves” to some extent. Therefore, I think this is not an escalation, in the full sense of this concept, but rather an attempt at some "rehabilitation".

          Wrong? Is this with the two-month planning of this attack? - Yes, yes, it was a terrorist attack: to bring down our plane from the underside, from behind, on foreign territory? What do you call a mistake? Erdogan committed a terrorist attack against our country! And now no "rehabilitation" will help him. Moreover, he doesn’t aspire to it, but on the contrary aggravates the situation with his behavior - if he goes on all sorts of fakes. And they won’t let him rehabilitate, even if he wanted to - this is not part of Washington’s plans.
          That's about what I think, Vladimir. hi
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 8 December 2015 08: 37 New
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      Yes, to show this photo, in the photo there is a frank photo-toad, some kind of gulchetai in a burqa and with a pipe on his shoulder, it’s a pity I can’t upload this photo from the phone, comrades would be burnt.
    3. vorobey
      vorobey 8 December 2015 08: 42 New
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      Quote: cniza
      They will seriously present this photo - toad or this show-off to indicate their concern.


      the ambassador’s response stumped the Turks .. repeat

      It was an observer, and not with MANPADS at all, but with a telescope ... in connection with the irresponsible actions of Turkish aviation, alas, they are forced to put up a special observation post to identify boobies at distant approaches ... repeat
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 8 December 2015 10: 03 New
        +1
        What kind of spyglass is it that you can only look at it from the shoulder? Apparently, a used MANPADS, there is also optics there ...
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 8 December 2015 10: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        the ambassador’s response stumped the Turks ..



        I hope that the ambassador finished his reply with the phrase of Lavrov: "D ..... B ....." ....
    4. lexxxus
      lexxxus 8 December 2015 08: 44 New
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      This is already recognized as fake: http://cont.ws/post/160110
      Here are the woodpeckers!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 8 December 2015 12: 49 New
        +1
        lexxxus
        This is already recognized as a fake: http://cont.ws/post/160110
        Here are the woodpeckers!

        Dear lexxxus! Thank you for the link! I looked and read.
        Yes, indeed, this is a fake.

        And I, when I saw this photograph before, was surprised at the sight of the sailor himself or the serviceman from MANPADS, that he looked in a strange way to ISIS. True, the photo was small, it was impossible to make out in detail.
        But on your link you can see perfectly that this is really a fake.

        We will soon learn the reaction to this “snapshot” of the Russian government.
  2. chikenous59
    chikenous59 8 December 2015 08: 33 New
    +2
    I have not seen a single comment from the RF Ministry of Defense.
    What was it? A deliberate demonstration? Photoshop? Or was it not MANPADS at all?
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 8 December 2015 08: 41 New
      +9
      Quote: chikenous59
      What was it? A deliberate demonstration? Photoshop? Or was it not MANPADS at all?

      the blogger’s last name is Yoryuk Ishik (“Poor Yorick!” (c)), and he even identified the type of MANPADS: “Needle” 9K38. Comments killed: "He directed MANPADS towards the residential areas of Istanbul !!!!!"
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 8 December 2015 10: 05 New
        0
        "He directed MANPADS towards the residential areas of Istanbul !!!!!"
        From there, the whistle of the heated turbojet engines was heard.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 8 December 2015 13: 06 New
          0
          A photo is clearly a fake. See the article and pictures of this combined photo: http://cont.ws/post/160110
          Moreover, the sailor or military man in this photo-fake looks like a jahadist. bully
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    2. veksha50
      veksha50 8 December 2015 10: 42 New
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      Quote: chikenous59
      I have not seen a single comment from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.



      Correctly done ...
      The elephant should not react to the barking of Pug ...
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 8 December 2015 08: 34 New
    +1
    On even immediately about the laws remembered, SAMs are a means of defense so it’s not by address.
  4. Magic archer
    Magic archer 8 December 2015 08: 34 New
    +8
    They have not yet seen that in the hold !!!)))) lol
  5. sober
    sober 8 December 2015 08: 34 New
    +9
    And if he was naked? Is that a sexual assault?
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 8 December 2015 08: 41 New
      +7
      Quote: sober
      Is that a sexual assault?

      no, harassment of sovereignty
  6. sl22277
    sl22277 8 December 2015 08: 35 New
    +5
    Rave. Weak attempt to make excuses to Russia for a downed plane. There are ships with anti-aircraft systems and missiles, from a MANPADS in Istanbul, suddenly a tantrum happened. And whether it was MANPADS or a pipe on the guy’s shoulder, you can speculate, anything ...
  7. Mihail55
    Mihail55 8 December 2015 08: 36 New
    +6
    “We expect that actions that are not related to the passage (through the strait) will no longer be repeated,” the Turkish Foreign Ministry added.

    If the issue of the introduction of Turkish troops into Iraq is considered at the UN Security Council, at the initiative of Syria and Russia, it will be considered - let them give an intelligible explanation. And then all these fake pictures will be stuck in a long box or where else ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 8 December 2015 09: 23 New
      0
      Turks have already designated an official position. The land is controlled not by Baghdad, but Barzani, they signed an agreement with Barzani, let Baghdad look after Baghdad and do not go into other people's affairs.

      Barzani will be flying to Turkey tomorrow with Erdogan, he will sign something, and maybe he will declare independence from Iraq.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 December 2015 08: 37 New
    +5
    Was there a boy then? A sailor with a MANPADS stood there or did not stand - this is not known to science. But nobody canceled Photoshop. And based on this picture, they call the ambassador of Russia? It is a pity that the ambassador cannot "send" the caller to a known address - protocol, stick trees.
  9. Lukich
    Lukich 8 December 2015 08: 37 New
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    I don’t understand what the problem is request he didn’t shoot him. and you never know what a soldier went to the deck of his ship.
    Recently, in Turkish publications, a photograph of the Caesar Kunikov Russian ship passing through the bays appeared on board of which was a soldier holding a MANPADS in his hands.
    and this is from the Psaki repertoire.
    1. Mr.
      Mr. Fun 8 December 2015 13: 25 New
      0
      Totally agree with you. It is Americans who like to look at everyone, try to blame something and inflate the whole thing. And you have MANPADS there, and you have S-400 here, and you have the Bastion there ... Yes, we have! Go to f * ck. (To say the least)
      We inflated a tragedy out of nothing.
      If the "Poplar" is any way to smuggle there. Sensation will be fierce ...
  10. Woodman
    Woodman 8 December 2015 08: 38 New
    +2
    Well, if their aviation is not adequate, it only remains with MANPADS in combat ready to walk along the straits))
  11. twincam
    twincam 8 December 2015 08: 39 New
    +5
    this deshmansky photoshop was fished from facebook or twitter, and now they express concern.
    the situation is just like in a country where legions of Buryat sea cottages were caught.
    here is an oversized toad
    )))))))))

    [img] https://twitter.com/HDNER/status/673526086739689472/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^t
    fw [/ img]
  12. asbond
    asbond 8 December 2015 08: 40 New
    +3
    "... was seen with a ground-to-air missile system on his shoulder," Well, this is really the level of conversation "below the baseboard"! You never know what someone "noticed"! Had a hangover, sober! Apparently, the Yankees of the Turks are intensively teaching how to behave in international affairs (take, they say, an example from the coverage of information at State Department briefings!)
  13. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 8 December 2015 08: 42 New
    +2
    There is a hunt for wolves, there is a hunt -
    On gray predators, seasoned and puppies!
    The beaters scream and the dogs bark to vomit
    Blood in the snow - and spots of red flags.
    I came out of obedience -
    For the flags - the thirst for life is stronger!
    Tearing out of strength - and of all the tendons,
    But today is not the same as yesterday:
    They laid me upon, laid upon me,
    But the huntsmen were left with nothing!

    V.S. Vysotsky

  14. 31rus
    31rus 8 December 2015 08: 43 New
    0
    Dear, no one will justify ourselves to us, on the contrary there will be pressure, first of all, with such provocations, they will continue to become impudent and climb into insolent, this is all one chain from Syrian oil to a possible conflict
  15. MT266
    MT266 8 December 2015 08: 44 New
    +4
    the ship enters the straits with increased combat readiness "To stand in places-narrowness to pass" and everyone is on combat posts according to the staffing table. A sailor with MANPADS on his shoulder is his scheduled place, despite the fact that the ship is in the territorial waters of Turkey. Ship safety is paramount.
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 8 December 2015 08: 52 New
      +6
      And what is it that the PCM below does not seem to stick out? laughing
      1. uav80
        uav80 8 December 2015 09: 02 New
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        This is CORD ...))
        1. kil 31
          kil 31 8 December 2015 10: 27 New
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          Photo fake. All in vests, but the operator of the MANPADS did not get.
  16. MT266
    MT266 8 December 2015 08: 46 New
    +3
    And all of our ships have MANPADS and everyone is sitting at torpedo guns and at all military posts, as if the Turks did not know about this? Of course they know the truth on their ships, unlike our fleet, a complete mess since the time of Ushak Pasha 17th century Admiral Ushakov then gave them a thrush under Kaliakria at Sinope
    1. MT266
      MT266 8 December 2015 08: 51 New
      0
      who is this minus set me?
      1. lecturer
        lecturer 8 December 2015 10: 15 New
        0
        who is this minus set me?
        - meaning the Turks are also in our ranks, or zapadentsy! But, it’s even good, it means respected!
      2. Weyland
        Weyland 9 December 2015 01: 56 New
        0
        Quote: MT266
        who is this minus set me?


        probably the one who remembers that Ushakov lived not in the 17th, but in the 18th century, and that under Sinope (in 1853m) the Turks beat Nakhimov laughing
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    2. MT266
      MT266 8 December 2015 08: 52 New
      +1
      read the Naval charter of the Navy gentlemen
    3. kagorta
      kagorta 8 December 2015 14: 04 New
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      Under Sinope, Pavel Stepanovich Nakhimov gave a thrush.
  17. Decathlon
    Decathlon 8 December 2015 08: 46 New
    +4
    And, in fact, what happened ?!
    "CONVENTION ON THE STRAINS REGIME" (Together with the "PROTOCOL") (Concluded in Montreux 20.07.1936/20/1936) ON THE STRAINS REGIME (Montreux, July XNUMX, XNUMX)
    Article 9
    Auxiliary ships, indicated in the previous paragraph, can use the derogation stated above only if their armament consists of: in relation to artillery against floating targets, not more than two guns with a maximum caliber of 105 mm; in relation to artillery against air targets, from not more than two units of a maximum caliber of 75 mm.
    About the MANPADS not a word .... Or, the text in Turkish decided not to translate ?!
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 8 December 2015 08: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Decathlon
      Not a word about MANPADS ...

      it was difficult with this abbreviation in 1936 ...
      1. Decathlon
        Decathlon 8 December 2015 09: 01 New
        +2
        Ah, these are not our problems! It was necessary to provide ... repeat
        1. Bluesman
          Bluesman 8 December 2015 09: 48 New
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          Quote: Decathlon
          Ah, these are not our problems! It was necessary to provide ...


          "Back to the Future-4": "Marty, why did you bring MANPADS to the Nazis? You violated the arms-time continuum ..."
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 8 December 2015 10: 10 New
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      Not a word about MANPADS ...
      good
  18. twincam
    twincam 8 December 2015 08: 48 New
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    Cheto pictures are not inserted.

    https://twitter.com/HDNER/status/673526086739689472/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 8 December 2015 10: 30 New
      0
      ... and from the porticoes stick out bombing 80 pound guns of the Paxan system. Osman Pasha knows what it is.
  19. Svetlana
    Svetlana 8 December 2015 08: 49 New
    +4
    The Turks stubbornly and brazenly run to get in the face, hoping that Putin or one of our military commanders will not stand the nerves. Obviously, through Turkey, someone is trying to provoke a mess in which the whole world will then be drawn.
  20. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 8 December 2015 08: 50 New
    0
    yeah .. on "Zvezda" ertogan brow beat in front of the GDP against Nitsche..and how Photoshop itself started so let's howl
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 8 December 2015 10: 31 New
      +1
      Someone here recently revealed that Recep Erdogan is actually Radik Erdokyan. Even if not, then you can still troll.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 8 December 2015 23: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: Black Colonel
        Radik


        Rafik ... because ..1.on he is always not guilty ... 2. made in the Baltic states laughing
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  22. engineer74
    engineer74 8 December 2015 08: 59 New
    +2
    It is necessary to reassure the "partners": "According to our rules, when determining the aiming points for the Strategic Missile Forces, it is necessary to cover the MANPADS group, we apologize!" smile
  23. Stinger
    Stinger 8 December 2015 09: 00 New
    +2
    one of the Russian military was spotted with a ground-to-air missile system on his shoulder
    They called Karpov. Karpov asked: - What? They answered: - Over the shoulder.
  24. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 8 December 2015 09: 05 New
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    Any normal ship is crammed with weapons. So now what to do with it when passing through the straits, so as not to irritate the hysterical Turks?
    The strangest reason for the demarches from the Turkish side. In general, they run up and provoke.
  25. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 8 December 2015 09: 06 New
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    To bite Russia, poor fellow, well, I really want to, the cat smells, whose fat has eaten! For those who do not know, during the passage of narrownesses, all personnel are at military posts, according to the staffing table. Hence: if a fighter, according to the staffing table, has a place to be located on the upper bridge (in the wheelhouse, in the engine room, at the control room, etc.), then HE will be located there and act according to the order of the commander.
  26. Baloo
    Baloo 8 December 2015 09: 06 New
    10
    The territory of the Russian ship is the territory of the Russian Federation. As for the apology, you don’t need to bother about trifles, otherwise it can happen somehow like this:
  27. rusaiaiBishkek
    rusaiaiBishkek 8 December 2015 09: 07 New
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    yes they need to break. these ataturk children are completely wispy. They must be put in place. In general, they need to be expelled from the territory of the vehicle, and business should be selected. am
  28. jovanni
    jovanni 8 December 2015 09: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: lexxxus
    This is already recognized as a fake: http://cont.ws/post/160110
    Here are the woodpeckers

    Why are these woodpeckers? They flock at us with ... ki as they want, and seshea encouragingly pat them on the shoulder, like "give Erdogan, so them, these Russians!" Amerikosy tease us like a dog with a stick, and we just try to bite a stick - not to chop off a hand on the very tomatoes ...
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    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 8 December 2015 09: 20 New
      +3
      Is Abdullah so cool? Impressive.
      1. LEX SU
        LEX SU 8 December 2015 12: 08 New
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        He really flies on combat. On F16.

        It is a good tradition when crowned children (in Britain too) serve in their army.
    2. engineer74
      engineer74 8 December 2015 10: 27 New
      +1
      With all due respect to the King of Jordan, vividly reminded the film "Independence Day" ...
      1. Bluesman
        Bluesman 8 December 2015 10: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: engineer74
        vividly reminded the film "Independence Day" ...

        where did the Jew and the Negro save America? Jordan is not threatened, probably ... laughing
  30. Chyudilkin
    Chyudilkin 8 December 2015 09: 22 New
    0
    Quote: Winter Cherry
    This message inspired something. I remembered the story also with a piece of the bus. In short, Erdogan and Poroshenko are brothers in mind.


    Nah, they are just acquaintances so far, but when Petya adjusts his Abdyzh drink (or whatever they drink there), they will immediately chat!
  31. Million
    Million 8 December 2015 09: 24 New
    +1
    If they had fired then the Turks could protest. But so many things can happen on our deck.
    1. cergey51046
      cergey51046 8 December 2015 10: 12 New
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      Moreover, the territory of the ship is the territory of Russia.
  32. Hiw
    Hiw 8 December 2015 09: 34 New
    +1
    this erdogan is valid, not only is the photo montage in the form of evidence vyuhivet (everything is clear - the order, they need to close the straits) they are also impudent with the invasion of Iraq ..... erdogan doesn’t understand that he will not be able to "persuade" him personally twitch ??? What does he think is inviolable? This is not the level of the president of Russia or the United States, he has the level of tyuyurtzii - the dude does not value life at all
  33. Fat
    Fat 8 December 2015 09: 38 New
    +1
    jackals. got in touch with a piglet and pollinated. that pieces of iron showed. These photoshop were mastered and puffed all over the world about Russian aggression. yusovtsy with their companions are all confused to drag us into the war
  34. Batia
    Batia 8 December 2015 09: 45 New
    +2
    In each city, you can see in work suits with armfuls of such MANPADS and plumbers repairmen. It looks very much like a PVC sewer pipe. If the Turks have already begun to get scared of plumbers, what will happen if they really see weapons?
  35. Zomanus
    Zomanus 8 December 2015 10: 02 New
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    Yes, MANPADS do not shine.
    I’m proposing a Tor / Modular Shell on the deck,
    Well, or embed the Calm-1 module into the deck.
    And the eyes are not callous and the ship is in the eye.
  36. am808s
    am808s 8 December 2015 10: 05 New
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    Quote: Batia
    In each city, you can see in work suits with armfuls of such MANPADS and plumbers repairmen. It looks very much like a PVC sewer pipe. If the Turks have already begun to get scared of plumbers, what will happen if they really see weapons?

    It seems that you are right, and in this fuzzy photograph, a peasant has trampled on some detail in the case, and only a journalist can completely declare a board or a pipe as a weapon in this photo.
  37. NeRTT
    NeRTT 8 December 2015 10: 06 New
    +1
    Crap is complete !! They don’t already know what to come up with Perdogany together with Gosrepa Saray of Deception - They’ve been so lazy in full !! wassat
  38. cergey51046
    cergey51046 8 December 2015 10: 10 New
    +1
    The territory of the ship is the territory of Russia. A soldier can be on it with what is allowed by Russian laws. Can remove rocket launchers from warships? It’s funny.
  39. starwars
    starwars 8 December 2015 10: 38 New
    0
    Russian ambassador summoned to Turkish Foreign Ministry and outlined Ankara’s position on the “incident” in the Bosphorus

    Chota I read the Montreux Convention - there is nothing there. Although hopak dancing on the deck. request
  40. veksha50
    veksha50 8 December 2015 10: 38 New
    +1
    "Russian ambassador summoned to Turkish Foreign Ministry and outlined Ankara’s position on the “incident” in the Bosphorus"...

    People, explain to me, illiterate in international and maritime law, such a thing ...

    1 . And what kind of incident was ???
    2. Any ship is in fact the sovereign territory of the state to which it belongs?
    3. Is the BDK a warship, not a civilian ship?
    4. Why not a sailor with MANPADS appear on the deck of the BDK in order to work out a combat training task to repel the attack of "unknown" Turkish aircraft ???

    What is the essence of the problem-incident ??? That some kind of "miracle" again photographers-videographers were at the right time and in the right place ???

    And actually, I did not see MANPADS in the photo ...
    1. LEX SU
      LEX SU 8 December 2015 12: 12 New
      +1
      according to claim 2 no!
      Only the territory of the MILITARY ship. (but everything is covered: Kunikov near Andreevsky)
      Other vessels are subject to the laws of those waters in which the vessel is located ...

      By the way, there are MANPADS on many ships of the Navy as additional in providing air defense of the ship ... I don’t know specifically about the BDK ...
  41. kuguar7777
    kuguar7777 8 December 2015 10: 44 New
    0
    In fear, the eyes are large, the boatswain with a pipe went out to smoke lol
  42. AlexTires
    AlexTires 8 December 2015 10: 45 New
    +1
    They are strange, these Turks! Armament: 2x2 57-mm gun mounts AK-725, 4x8 PU MANPADS, 2x30 122 mm PU NURS A-215 "Grad-M" did not impress them, and the whole guy was a bitch!
  43. starwars
    starwars 8 December 2015 10: 49 New
    0
    Like their owners, they follow us on Twitter. There is no evidence that this is not Photoshop. belay
  44. shura7782
    shura7782 8 December 2015 10: 56 New
    0
    It doesn’t matter for what reason the fighter ended up in this place. Now they need any reason to trumpet the whole world that they once again warn us.
    And was there a MANPADS? The case is fixed, the job is done.
  45. Dimka999
    Dimka999 8 December 2015 11: 01 New
    0
    What are these Turks nervous))
    Fear)
  46. Pencil
    Pencil 8 December 2015 11: 02 New
    0
    I saw this picture on the news. Typical water photoshop. I think the experts are quite capable of proving this.
    On the right in the photo - a soldier in military equipment, a silhouette as if nearby (added by Photoshop) that holds the rocket - is not dressed in uniform and resembles a typical Asian rebel and, I think, it is no coincidence that he is obscured. I would be at the ambassador’s place, I would ask him not to bother with such trash anymore.
  47. vdovinab
    vdovinab 8 December 2015 11: 14 New
    0
    Quote: Kil 31
    Photo fake. All in vests, but the operator of the MANPADS did not get.

    on the head of a balaclava and instead of a pea jacket, a sailor
  48. red_october
    red_october 8 December 2015 11: 25 New
    +1
    F. M. Dostoevsky about the Turks:

    “Have you heard about our ladies who throw captive Turks in wagons transported in cars, take out expensive tobacco and sweets? They wrote that one Turk, when the train started again, loudly cried out and energetically spat into the very group of humane Russian ladies who waved the departing train after the handkerchiefs. .. Our European delicacy and our fear of Europe, this Turk will never believe, and will never understand it at all. But because, “if you bow to me like that,” the Turkish leader argues, “after I, maybe your brother Native yesterday still cut nose letting you, then, it means that you yourself feel in front of me lower, and I am a higher person in front of you. But just as it should be, by the will of Allah, and there is nothing surprising here! "This is what a captive Turkish pasha should think to himself, and he certainly thinks so."

    F.M. Dostoevsky, "Diary of a writer", 1877 year.
  49. koksalek
    koksalek 8 December 2015 11: 33 New
    0
    A sailor with a mop brought the Turks to hysteria. If he takes a bucket in his hands it will be Khan
  50. sledge
    sledge 8 December 2015 11: 55 New
    0
    Turks will now look for any excuses for provocations against Russia