Ukraine and Turkey agree on joint programs for the modernization of tanks

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"Ukroboronprom" and the Turkish defense company Aselsan began negotiations on joint activities to modernize armored vehicles and artillery, reports Look with reference to Defense News.



According to the resource, the negotiations of defense companies "began immediately after the complication of Ankara's relations with Moscow."

“Among other things, Aselsan is developing an active AKKOR defense system aimed at destroying approaching tank guided missiles - writes the publication. - Since 2008, she has tested several radar systems and ammunition. The system is designed for Altay, the promising third-generation Turkish main battle tank. ”

According to the representative of the Turkish company, the parties "are exploring ways to develop and implement joint programs for the modernization of tanks." “Cooperation will also be expanded by upgrading artillery and armored personnel carriers, and may include additional work to improve AKKOR,” he added.

The publication notes that “Aselsan produces the newest ground-based electronic suppression system“ Coral ”(Koral), which Turkey recently deployed near the Syrian border in response to the transfer of the Russian C-400 air defense system to the republic.”

The effective range of the Turkish system is 150 km, i.e. Khmeimim base is in the zone of its action. However, the developers of Russian EW systems questioned the ability of the Coral to blind C-400.

“It is hardly possible, simply because it is focused on something else. This is an EW ground system, and in order to work effectively against anti-aircraft missiles, especially such as the C-400 class, which are designed to work in conditions of the use of electronic warfare by the enemy, EW air-based facilities are necessary. Such as our “Lever” or “Khibiny”, but Turkey does not have such systems, ”a KRET representative told Vzglyad.
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  1. +25
    7 December 2015 18: 46
    Two boots of a couple who will throw someone faster.

    According to the resource, the negotiations of defense companies "began immediately after the complication of Ankara's relations with Moscow."
    1. +19
      7 December 2015 18: 51
      They decided to be friends against the Russian Federation. Will such friendship last long? Short-term relationship.
      1. +20
        7 December 2015 18: 57
        Quote: oleg-gr
        They decided to be friends against the Russian Federation. Will such friendship last long? Short-term relationship.



        And their ancestors wrote a letter to the Turkish Sultan! The text would be passed to Erdogan, finally ...
        1. PIN
          +6
          7 December 2015 19: 09
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          And their ancestors wrote a letter to the Turkish Sultan! The text would convey
          And now the descendants of terrorists write in a clumsy handwriting, TRAITING, letters to terrorists! Anti-painting - "Letter to the Turkish Sultan"!
          Probably their ANCESTORS are spinning in the coffin with a propeller!
          1. +10
            7 December 2015 20: 06
            not them, but ours ...
            1. +7
              7 December 2015 23: 31
              I look at the news and quietly go nuts ...
              Who will upgrade their equipment? Where did this news come from?
              Turkey has tanks like Abrams (South Korean modernization) + several French. How the country of the runaway maydaun can help with their modernization is completely incomprehensible to me. Will the embroidery be glued to them?
              Also, Turkey can not help in the modernization of the Kharkov t-80.
              Different gun calibres, different types of infantry fighting vehicles, different types of reservations (and generally an approach to booking), different suspensions, completely different engines.
              This is the same as observing an attempt to make a baby between a monkey and a pig.
              Of course, I understand everything - Ukrainians, squealing and grunting with joy, eat any virtual help from TV screens - but did someone have to have brains? Aw, brains?
              1. 0
                8 December 2015 08: 34
                Quote: Darkmor
                This is the same as observing an attempt to make a baby between a monkey and a pig.
                Of course, I understand everything - Ukrainians, squealing and grunting with joy, eat any virtual help from TV screens - but did someone have to have brains? Aw, brains?
                But what if it turns out?
              2. +1
                8 December 2015 09: 51
                Quote: Darkmor
                Turkey has tanks like Abrams (South Korean modernization) + several French.



                Don't they have old American and German Leopards?
              3. Don
                0
                8 December 2015 10: 07
                Quote: Darkmor
                I look at the news and quietly go nuts ...
                Who will upgrade their equipment? Where did this news come from?
                Turkey has tanks like Abrams (South Korean modernization) + several French. How the country of the runaway maydaun can help with their modernization is completely incomprehensible to me. Will the embroidery be glued to them?

                Totally agree with you. Only Turkey does not have Abrams, but even older M60 and German Leopards. This is not the first time I've heard about these Altai. All of their Turks are developing, but they cannot develop in any way. From 2007 to 2012, they developed it, then for 3 years there was a lull, and only it seems that this year the tests began.
        2. BAT
          +1
          8 December 2015 05: 41
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          Quote: oleg-gr
          They decided to be friends against the Russian Federation. Will such friendship last long? Short-term relationship.



          And their ancestors wrote a letter to the Turkish Sultan! The text would be passed to Erdogan, finally ...

          Whose ancestors ??? A letter to the Sultan was written by Zaporozhye Cossacks. And they really couldn’t be the ancestors of the current maydaunov. The ancestors of the current Svidomo raguli were hunched over to the lords, served the Poles and Jewish tenants. And for many current leaders of the outskirts, the ancestors themselves were Zhidi - Randar. But certainly not the Cossacks.
        3. +2
          8 December 2015 08: 30
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          Quote: oleg-gr
          They decided to be friends against the Russian Federation. Will such friendship last long? Short-term relationship.



          And their ancestors wrote a letter to the Turkish Sultan! The text would be passed to Erdogan, finally ...
          the letter was written by Zaporozhye Cossacks. and friendship is arranged by former Polish servants who dream of becoming servants again, no matter who, if only from the West. please do not confuse.
      2. +13
        7 December 2015 19: 01
        Turks are first of all hucksters, and now there is nothing special to take from kakelov. Show off "friendship" for a couple of months - and that's all. This is not a Russian walk - Vanya with a cry Tagiil !, who will drink everything, but will not disgrace his homeland, leaving his monthly salary as a tip to the waitress. smile
        1. +6
          7 December 2015 19: 08
          Ukraine and Turkey agree on joint programs for the modernization of tanks

          Let's-let's, together you will modernize: there was an Altay tank, it will become Baltay-Baltay! - Why, why, and they can chatter anything and everything in Ukraine!smile
          1. +10
            7 December 2015 19: 23
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Let's-let's, together you will modernize: there was an Altay tank, it will become Baltay-Baltay! - Why, why, and they can chatter anything and everything in Ukraine!

            Alexander, I can’t, my colleague, agree with you. In Ukraine, a sufficiently large number of both defenses and means of attack were developed and put into production. The developments have remained, they are of interest to the Turks, do not nevertheless think to forget that once Ukraine had not the weakest scientific and production base in the USSR.
            Something like that, colleague. hi
            1. +5
              7 December 2015 19: 33
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              Alexander, I can’t, my colleague, agree with you. In Ukraine, a sufficiently large number of both defenses and means of attack were developed and put into production. The developments remained, they are Turks and are interested,

              Vladimir, I think, during this "golden time", for the generals from the Ukrainian army, all these developments, which could have brought in any income, have long been sold (I will not be surprised that Turkey is included). There is only one talking shop left. hi
              1. +1
                7 December 2015 20: 33
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                Vladimir, I think, during this "golden time", for the generals from the Ukrainian army, all these developments, which could have brought in any income, have long been sold (I will not be surprised that Turkey is included). There is only one talking shop left.

                Alexander, prior to this idiotic act of Erdogan, the Turks were actively developing military-technical cooperation with us, counting all the same on "fresh food", but now they will be content with what they have. Still, the development paths of our tank building and the western one were (and indeed are) with small, but rather important, differences. And everything that has now entered service with our Army was developed in the USSR, including in Ukraine. So, I think there is still something to take there. Otherwise, why would the Turks rush there? Well, plus missile technology, and Zenit and Voyevoda are still developed by Yuzhmash.
                Something like that, colleague. hi
              2. 0
                7 December 2015 22: 43
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                There was only one talking room.

                LET'S HOPE FOR BEST BUT TO EXPECT THE BETTER.
            2. 0
              7 December 2015 20: 06
              And excuse me for what is left in Kharkiv? Even the rear school of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in my Perm.
              1. 0
                7 December 2015 20: 45
                Chegoto did not understand why not in Perm. Dog handlers artillery and sappers. Automobiles? Wolfhounds familiar?
            3. +2
              7 December 2015 20: 32
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              do not still think I forget that once Ukraine did not have the weakest scientific and production base in the USSR.

              Totally agree with you. But it was once! For 25 years, everyone has been stolen, stolen and sold! And they haven’t created anything new since the times of the USSR! And giving back the old backlogs of 30-40 years ago as innovative is just ridiculous! All high-tech production in Ukraine is ditched for the sake of the EU and the SGA. After all, they do not need an economic competitor at all. The West needs only a market, especially in a country mired in debt, like in silk!
              1. +1
                7 December 2015 21: 27
                Quote: Tol100v
                Totally agree with you. But it was once! For 25 years, everyone has been stolen, stolen and sold! And they haven’t created anything new since the times of the USSR! And giving back the old backlogs of 30-40 years ago as innovative is just ridiculous! All high-tech production in Ukraine is ditched for the sake of the EU and the SGA. After all, they do not need an economic competitor at all. The West needs only a market, especially in a country mired in debt, like in silk!

                Igor, colleague Dear, what about the Motor Sich helicopter engines, with which, by the way, our turntables were quite successfully sold for export, and which we really plan to completely replace not even next year. Somehow, colleague, don't blame me, but by unfortunately you repeat the hackneyed cliches. I did not set out to offend you, but I also cannot agree. hi
        2. 0
          7 December 2015 21: 22
          Turks are primarily traders


          That is yes. But, a possible radical coalition against Russia. For ten years they financed, though not with their own money, the terror in the Caucasus, where they are laughing (confirm who knows) neither for thanks, nor for the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), nor for little money, they will not go to shoot, fight, blow up . But only for the price that they will call themselves. And then Ukrainians who lay down for free in New Russia in thousands. Yes, these stools of Bandera, Allah himself sent them. Not for nothing, the first strokes of half-pops among them occurred between intelligence services. Now the whole experience of the Caucasus has been thrown to Ukraine. Yes, Georgia should be wary of a new Adjarian revolution, and the Azerbaijanis should not relax .....
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      4. +3
        7 December 2015 19: 18
        Yeah, it will be ukroturkomoshchshchshch! laughing
      5. +6
        7 December 2015 19: 23
        "Ukroboronprom and Turkish defense company Aselsan have started negotiations on joint activities"

        The game was equal, played two g ... on.
        1. +11
          7 December 2015 19: 42
          They found each other.
          1. +4
            7 December 2015 19: 51
            before they gave the Turks not bad.)))
            1. +3
              7 December 2015 20: 09
              Quote: zulus222
              before they gave the Turks not bad.)))

              poor crested .... ass
      6. +2
        7 December 2015 20: 04
        It was necessary to think of exchanging Russia (both countries) for each other fellow
      7. +1
        7 December 2015 20: 20
        Quote: oleg-gr
        They decided to be friends against the Russian Federation. Will such friendship last long? Short-term relationship.

        This is enough for the grave of the entire Turk-Ukro armored vehicles with an appendage of personnel!
      8. 0
        7 December 2015 22: 37
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Will such friendship last long?

        Why for a long time? The Turks from the Ukrainians will draw out all the developments that still remained there, perhaps the remaining specialists, and the Ukrainians will sell for cheap everything that the Turks can vparit.
      9. 0
        7 December 2015 23: 39
        Here, not really in the subject, but about skaklov! Pure neighing laughing
    2. jjj
      +5
      7 December 2015 18: 51
      Having lost the Crimea, Ukrainians will fill the resorts of Turkey? I think that the Turks will now be in unpaid debt to the independent
      1. +8
        7 December 2015 18: 57
        What kind of shy?
        1. +2
          7 December 2015 19: 08
          Quote: Cis Ural
          What kind of shy?


          Syrian oil. Still flowing for little?
      2. +3
        7 December 2015 18: 58
        Not satisfying times in the timeless, but kakeli terribly tight. I don’t think that many of them will come to Turkey.
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      4. +1
        7 December 2015 19: 20
        Quote: jjj
        Having lost the Crimea, Ukrainians will fill the resorts of Turkey? I think that the Turks will now be in unpaid debt to the independent

        What are you talking about? What are the resorts of Turkey? In the hairy years, they had enough of them to the Crimea!
      5. 0
        7 December 2015 20: 46
        Quote: jjj
        , Ukrainians will fill the resorts of Turkey?

        After all, everything is included there! Ukroedy will act as always: "Sho ne zim, then I'll bite!"
    3. +3
      7 December 2015 18: 54
      Quote: cniza
      Two boots of a couple who will throw someone faster.

      According to the resource, the negotiations of defense companies "began immediately after the complication of Ankara's relations with Moscow."

      Two spiders in a jar will be more accurate. hi
      1. +1
        7 December 2015 20: 49
        Quote: Wend
        Two spiders in a jar will be more accurate.

        And more precisely, TWO THIEFS, AND THIRD MANAGES THEM!
    4. +4
      7 December 2015 18: 56
      The two great tank powers made an alliance. Well, that’s it. smile
      1. +25
        7 December 2015 19: 00
        The song is like this ... "Linked by the same blood, linked by the same chain .."
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        3. +3
          7 December 2015 19: 20
          MIKHALYCH1
          ... "Linked by the same blood, linked by the same chain .."

          And in my opinion it seems! laughing
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        5. +2
          7 December 2015 19: 28
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          The song is like this ... "Linked by the same blood, linked by the same chain .."

          That one, that the other did not have long to occupy presidential posts.
          1. 0
            7 December 2015 20: 57
            A. And they, that in one dressing room they got ties and suits?
      2. +1
        7 December 2015 19: 03
        Kursk arc resting ..
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      4. +4
        7 December 2015 19: 31
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        The two great tank powers made an alliance. Well, that’s it.

        I guess you, colleague, think your comment is very witty. So, for information, there are less than a dozen countries producing tanks in the world in the full cycle of development and production. Turkey is one of them.
        Something like that, colleague. hi
        1. 0
          7 December 2015 19: 59
          Ukraine is also among the tank-producing countries.
          1. +2
            7 December 2015 20: 26
            Quote: Hyppopotut
            Ukraine is also among the tank-producing countries.

            Namesake, to some extent let me disagree with you. The Turks have licensed engines and guns on their tanks, but both are manufactured in Turkey. In Ukraine, tank guns are not produced in any form. In this regard, Ukraine cannot be fully called a "tank-producing" country.
            Something like that, colleague. hi
            1. mvg
              +2
              8 December 2015 01: 11
              Come on. Let me disagree. Do you really think that the Soviet order 2A46M-5 is still being put on the Thai order, on the Oploty? What is the resource of a tank barrel? 200-500 shots.
              Yes, and boasted like dill, that their trunks are more wear-resistant. There is no faith for them, but there is no doubt what they are doing in Hohland. http://bintel.com.ua/en/article/opk3/
              // And Ukraine managed to create a 125-mm tank gun, and, in an extremely short time, thanks to the joint work of law enforcement agencies, the economic department and Ukrainian designers from the newly created State Scientific and Technical Center for Artillery and Small Arms (later the Kiev Design Bureau “ Artillery weapons ”). Trying to get out of the situation artificially created by Russia, Ukrainian experts partially copied the 2A46 from the West German 120-mm Rh-120 gun, which forms the basis of the armament of the famous German tank Leopard-2A. The corresponding information was provided by Germany to Spain with the aim of organizing licensed production of “leopards” at the enterprises of the latter (1995 contract). However, the Spanish "Leopards-2A5" did not appear ... //
              1. +1
                8 December 2015 02: 28
                [quote] [quote = mvg] And Ukraine managed to create a 125-mm tank gun, and, in an extremely short time, thanks to the joint work of law enforcement agencies, the economic department and Ukrainian designers from the newly created State Scientific and Technical Center for Artillery and Small Arms (subsequently - Kiev Design Bureau "Artillery weapons"). Trying to get out of the situation artificially created by Russia, Ukrainian experts partially copied the 2A46 from the West German 120-mm Rh-120 gun, which forms the basis of the armament of the famous German tank Leopard-2A. The corresponding information was provided by Germany to Spain with the aim of organizing licensed production of “leopards” at the enterprises of the latter (1995 contract). However, the Spanish "Leopards-2A5" did not appear ... [/ quote [/ quote]
                Colleague, I heard this news, but the Germans denied the transfer of technology. Therefore, I proceed from the available data. As for Oplotov, there is no sufficiently accurate information, moreover, in no international review. But there is no reason to believe the Ukrainians. Regarding the "Spanish Leopards", I completely agree with you, the production was not established, about which, in particular, "National Interest" wrote for a long time.
                Something like this, a colleague, thought about writing a comment. hi
                PS But, your comment is interesting, plus a definite one. soldier
        2. 0
          7 December 2015 20: 51
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Turkey is one of them.

          Although the SGA dropped out of this list!
    5. +6
      7 December 2015 19: 00
      Quote: cniza
      Two boots of a couple who will throw someone faster.

      Haberdashery and cardinal - this is power!
    6. +2
      7 December 2015 19: 01
      The Turks just saw a new conceptual development of the dill "urban innovation tank" - and realized: this is what they lack to keep their streets clean! A mobile self-propelled trash can!
    7. +18
      7 December 2015 19: 06
      Two boots of a couple who will throw someone faster.

      It doesn't smell like two "boots !!!! laughing
    8. +3
      7 December 2015 19: 09
      Erdag Gunpowder the eye does not suck feel
      1. 0
        7 December 2015 19: 49
        Erdag Gunpowder the eye does not suck

        But the gunpowder Erdagu eyes burn out and blind .... laughing
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    10. +19
      7 December 2015 19: 11
      Quote: cniza
      Two boots of a couple who will throw someone faster.

      Khokhlozadykh, the senior black-headed owner has already thrown with guarantees for the debt of Russia, and even these will throw them.
      1. +4
        7 December 2015 19: 17
        "Ukroboronprom" and the Turkish defense company Aselsan began negotiations on joint activities to modernize armored vehicles and artillery
        I'm really interested in eerie. Attraction, "under the dome of the circus"! I'd like to see how the skippers and the Turks will throw each other wassat I’ll probably put it on the skaklov what
        1. +3
          7 December 2015 19: 30
          Quote: perepilka
          I’ll probably put it on the skaklov

          You better tell me this first thing: I put it on you yesterday Yes, not the inspector stop. Well, how did everything happen there? winked Did my bet play or not? feel
          If yes, then I wait for the fee Yes. I take salmon too smile...
          Hi Vova! drinks
          1. 0
            7 December 2015 20: 06
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            Yesterday I put yes on you, not stop inspector
            Hi, Jura!
            Half request I passed, and the young failed, zats. Seen little drove by the rules, sitting, with a double feeling drinks
            Here, egoist, I, nevertheless, had to have a couple of matyugs on him, too, to order you recourse well, what now request after the holidays will go.
            1. +2
              7 December 2015 20: 15
              Quote: perepilka
              sitting with a double feeling

              Even according to my concepts, you had a double feeling request ...Though what ... The pace probably took the guards lol.
              Hello, drinking companion laughing
              Quote: perepilka
              it was necessary to him, a couple of matyugov, you order
              stop No, come on yourself, otherwise I'm not young anymore recourse , you know, pushing for you two: to me as an intelligent person Yes matyugs are hardly given sad ..... Try the belt winked ...
              1. +1
                7 December 2015 20: 36
                Quote: Angry Guerrilla
                Try a belt

                Elephant grains what It’s necessary to interpret and ask in the old fashioned way, and again in a circle, since you refuse to conjure.
                Okay, I'll have to do it myself, but for that, you'll have to! What do you have there, from whitefish? Salted, not?
                1. +1
                  7 December 2015 20: 38
                  Quote: perepilka
                  What do you have there, from whitefish?

                  I have a whitefish from a whitefishsmile ...
                  1. 0
                    7 December 2015 20: 50
                    Quote: Angry Guerrilla
                    I have a little fish from a whitefish smile.

                    It’s unfortunate, on the old man’s teeth what
                    Well, why, come in the second half of January, I’ll strain my friends, they’ll bring me to the winter, although we pull roaches, I really don’t remember when I was fishing, but for you I’ll give a week, and I myself what Boil ears, dilute with vodka winked .
              2. +1
                7 December 2015 21: 37
                Quote: Angry Guerrilla
                drinking companion

                I’ll get angry and quarrel. He is the son of a very good friend of mine.
      2. +7
        7 December 2015 19: 36
        Throw-Nekin, loves, dislikes. But I definitely stopped noticing.
    11. +1
      7 December 2015 19: 22
      Quote: cniza
      Two boots of a couple who will throw someone faster.

      That's right!
      Horse and sausage began to play, if not a quartet, like grandfather Krylov, but a duet.
      Straight Erdogasha can say: Oh, why am I Senya, Petya is so in love with you, I’m sorry only you have a lot of gold reserves ... And also ... you’ve already touched the whole Soviet tank construction. Yes Sold to Pakistan hurt something. So that is all... request Now only work on the principle: suddenly something obscene came out from there.
      1. +2
        7 December 2015 19: 43
        Quote: Alekseev
        like grandfather Krylov,

        Fucking reason to unite the two countries, make friends against Russia and make more money ???? ...... hemorrhoids, of course, it is possible, but who will finance this market demon, I don’t think that the Turks want to become the next feeding trough for Ukrainian officials .......
    12. +1
      7 December 2015 19: 53
      who will throw someone faster.
      It's hard to even predict
    13. 0
      7 December 2015 21: 47
      Two friends, x ... th and cinch.
    14. +1
      7 December 2015 23: 57
      The enemy of my enemy is my friend ...
      Hmm ... with such friends and enemies is not necessary ...
  2. +4
    7 December 2015 18: 48
    Turks and Ukrainians are brothers forever!
    Let them upgrade the garbage can that the ukrokulibins have been collecting from the debris for a year in the garage. Maybe he’s going for a motorcycle plow.
  3. +1
    7 December 2015 18: 49
    let's see what they’ll probably come up with crap again
    1. +2
      7 December 2015 20: 03
      As the club gum said:
      "If you cross a peach with a melon, you get a fart."
      And this will remain the only innovation of these new brothers.
  4. +15
    7 December 2015 18: 49
    two offended at lol hehe
    and the load wink do not buy tickets to the circus - there will not show this
    1. +6
      7 December 2015 19: 22
      AWESOME !! I haven’t seen such a thing ... It’s just some kind of game ... Russia -90 are quick ..
      1. +1
        7 December 2015 19: 23
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        .This game is just some kind of

        "and your prices are not game?" (c) wink
        “We are beginning to see signs of economic progress. Industrial production is growing, the rate of decline in GDP is decreasing. If someone said a year ago that this is possible, it would look doubtful. But all this happened under your leadership, Mr. President, ”Biden said, referring to Petro Poroshenko.

        “At the beginning of Russian aggression, we did not have the Ukrainian army, Mr. Vice President. The defense of Ukraine rested on volunteers who went to the army to defend their country. Today, including thanks to US military-technical assistance, the Ukrainian army is there, it is well-known and powerful, capable of stopping the aggressor and is doing this in a high-quality and professional manner. Fully equipped and at a new level of armament, ”Poroshenko boasted, looking directly into Biden’s eyes.
    2. 0
      7 December 2015 20: 22
      it’s a pity that they didn’t finish the blunt. And why did he jump from a bunk?
    3. 0
      8 December 2015 00: 35
      Full madhouse! I have no words!
  5. 0
    7 December 2015 18: 50
    Will there be enough garbage cans?
  6. +1
    7 December 2015 18: 51
    The enemy of my enemy, my friend-logic is simple and clear.
  7. +9
    7 December 2015 18: 51
    There are no words simply, no words ... What will they call a joint miracle? "Bultai" or "Alplot"?
    1. +10
      7 December 2015 19: 01
      Quote: Altona
      There are no words simply, no words ... What will they call a joint miracle? "Bultai" or "Alplot"?
    2. 0
      7 December 2015 22: 15
      The new Ukroturetskiy tank will be called "Aplobut"
    3. +1
      8 December 2015 08: 19
      Sorry, that is off topic, but how can I copy your animation to a computer? Painfully liked me. laughing
      1. 0
        8 December 2015 15: 09
        Quote: oleg46
        Sorry, that is off topic, but how can I copy your animation to a computer? Painfully liked me.

        ---------------------
        "Open image" then "save as", both GIF animations should be ...
      2. 0
        8 December 2015 17: 14
        Quote: oleg46
        Sorry, that is off topic, but how can I copy your animation to a computer? Painfully liked me. laughing

        no problem... hi
  8. +3
    7 December 2015 18: 55
    Quote: oleg-gr
    They decided to be friends against the Russian Federation. Will such friendship last long? Short-term relationship.

    Sex without obligation. smile
  9. +2
    7 December 2015 18: 58
    Eternally offended unite over the centuries ...
  10. +7
    7 December 2015 19: 01
    This news may have a different attitude, but I don’t feel any sense of it at all. For me, the question immediately arose: to whom is this cooperation beneficial? From the point of view of technology - this is how the Turks have their own tanks and are not worse than the Ukrainian ones. In short, the Turks, I think, will find something to underestimate the Ukrainian developers.
    As is now customary in Ukraine, cooperation itself is a very vague concept - what kind of access the Turks will have to technology (including nuclear, for example, the SS-18 will be created in Dnepropetrovsk). In short, there are a lot of fields for maneuver, sooner or later then they will be thrown to the SE.
    So the people have something to think and ponder. From everything that is happening in the country of 404, I understood exactly one thing: the current regime and those who sing along to them can do only one thing well: to spoil those whom they consider an enemy and do not care what then they will get on nuts.
  11. +2
    7 December 2015 19: 01
    Newly made traitor brothers !!!
  12. +1
    7 December 2015 19: 02
    These upgrade. They couldn’t do it, but will it work with strangers? Oh, hunger is not aunt. You promise anything, just to feed.
  13. +1
    7 December 2015 19: 04
    Well, the Turks have their own achievements, their own financial funding. Ukraine does not have a bad base, excellent specialists, a Soviet school. And together it can turn out to be a very successful development or refinement of an existing development.
    1. 0
      7 December 2015 23: 00
      Quote: Yeraz
      Well, the Turks have their own achievements, their own financial funding. Ukraine does not have a bad base, excellent specialists, a Soviet school. And together it can turn out to be a very successful development or refinement of an existing development.

      The Turks need specialists not in Ukraine, but in Turkey. Alas, Ukraine is Russia in the 90s, from which they bought all the documentation and technologies for nothing and valuable personnel were lured to themselves, well, as you say, they lured away from bankrupt factories.
  14. +4
    7 December 2015 19: 07
    A healthy colonel, surrounded by his subordinates, is afraid to besiege these mozzers. Ukraine has survived! Where is Taras?
    1. cap
      +1
      7 December 2015 20: 01
      What if subordinates support the wrong side? laughing
  15. +1
    7 December 2015 19: 07
    Turks! Well you are fools!
    Cockles "shod" you ... and will not blink an eye!




    (From us: someone is in the "north", someone is "in the subway" - "we smoke" the "spirits" from the "holes"
    Alive!
    From the "north" - there was a "successful serif", soon ours will "work out"!)
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    1. +1
      7 December 2015 20: 30
      Beautifully even high quality shot. But the oars spoil the whole picture.
  17. -2
    7 December 2015 19: 21
    Everything is very bad in Syria ... It seems that Turkey has received carte blanche from the United States, and Europe will chew snot and push the Master ...
    Turkey is pulling troops to the border with Syria and Iraq, urgently looking for and pulling up air defense systems from Europe to the border with Syria, the US is bombing the Assad Army openly (they show Turkey an example - Russia cannot do anything) ...
    Our contingent in Syria is completely dependent on supplies through the Bosphorus, and from Turkey you can expect everything ...

    I see no way out if the US decides to show "who is the boss ...".
    I hope Putin and Co. know what to do ...
    1. +5
      7 December 2015 19: 41
      Quote: fax66
      I see no way out if the US decides to show "who is the boss ...".
      I hope Putin and Co. know what to do ...

      The situation is very serious ...! (although when she was calm for us) Let's give slack .. Khan of Russia! Definitely ...
  18. 0
    7 December 2015 19: 21
    Well, now Ukraine will heal, then they will pine and then they will pine. Well, life seems to be getting better. Well, new developments. So the T-64 tank they let out how many years. And this is the coolest technique in Ukraine as they say. There are no words alone ........ am
    1. +1
      7 December 2015 19: 41
      here they are sucking, then there they are sucking.

      Koklu perverts!
      Well, but seriously:
      How many did they "shoe" ?!

      Do not trust Koklu
      He is a serious fool!
      Kokol with a smile - believe you!
      But he pocketed you
      All five!


  19. +7
    7 December 2015 19: 23
    what i found! - CAUTION! ukrosMI:

    "Residents of the peninsula, in whose houses there is no electricity, should be silent about this, otherwise they will be imprisoned." belay
    The "Prosecutor" believes that those residents of Crimea who deny the fact of the presence of electricity in their homes should bear administrative responsibility.
    “So far - in the form of imprisonment for 15 days,” summed up Poklonskaya.

    proof: - http://vchaspik.ua/region/358024zhiteley-kryma-u-kotoryh-otsutstvuet-elektriches


    tvo-budut-sazhat-v-tyurmu

    They will soon make friends with igils at the official level and the papers will be signed. With such media, they will be sure that the igil are nice guys, revolutionaries and freedom fighters just like their maid-brain guys.

  20. +1
    7 December 2015 19: 24
    Jackals huddle in a flock .....
  21. +10
    7 December 2015 19: 26
    TURKS and PRITURKI (through D) - "friendship". And we, in response, a letter to the Turkish sultan with an attachment ... laughing
    1. +1
      7 December 2015 21: 30
      According to reports of the UkrSMI, the Foreign Ministry of the Outskirts officially announced the withdrawal of the letter of Zaporozhets to the Turkish sultan!
      And, in general, a picture on this subject was painted by I.E. Repin commissioned by the GDP!
  22. +2
    7 December 2015 19: 34
    Yeah. Birds of a feather flock together. Such cooperation shows that Ukraine is more and more plunged into the abyss of hatred of Russia. If one of the citizens of Ukraine comes to this site, I have a question for you: how then will you come out of shit? After all, we, if now in your opinion not brothers, are still neighbors. When all of you who are not lazy on the basis of dislike of Russia will be watched and abandoned.
    1. +1
      7 December 2015 19: 54
      Quote: okroshka79
      Yeah. Birds of a feather flock together. Such cooperation shows that Ukraine is more and more plunged into the abyss of hatred of Russia. If one of the citizens of Ukraine comes to this site, I have a question for you: how then will you come out of shit? After all, we, if now in your opinion not brothers, are still neighbors. When all of you who are not lazy on the basis of dislike of Russia will be watched and abandoned.

      Something is going so ...
      cruel lesson for Russia! So what to do ? It is necessary to break through, our real allies are the same Army and Navy!
      Here they come to an agreement!
  23. +2
    7 December 2015 19: 48
    The Nazis, under the guise of NATO, are gathering forces to attack Russia.
    1. 0
      7 December 2015 21: 57
      Yeah, they collect it, then divide it up and put it in their pockets. In St. Petersburg, all the small shops (in the basements) are filled with Roshen products. And on the wrappers (on each candy) it says: "made in Russia".
  24. 0
    7 December 2015 19: 55
    bed-fence design?
  25. 0
    7 December 2015 20: 25
    Bullshit war, the main thing - maneuvers. And whoever contrives in these maneuvers will be more whole. If our citizens, and maybe not ours already, are building hotels in Greece, and not in the Crimea or there in Sochi, then everything is not so bad, but maybe very bad, because they are building there, and not here. The classic says, - the main thing is maneuvers, first you need to get involved in the battle, but the war will show the plan, you can’t hide the sewn in the bag. We’ll see, because they don’t ask us.
  26. +3
    7 December 2015 20: 42
    "I communicate more with the president (Poroshenko) than with my wife," Biden admitted.
    That's what "love" does with people. fellow
  27. 0
    7 December 2015 20: 48
    Farce and only. The Yankees are tired of the Kahl, but then the Turks run into a kick.
  28. +3
    7 December 2015 20: 56
    "Ukroboronprom" and the Turkish defense company Aselsan began negotiations on joint activities to modernize armored vehicles and artillery

    Oh yeah!!! Dill has vast experience in this area.
  29. 0
    7 December 2015 21: 28
    The war puts everything in its place, rips off the masks. It would be much worse if we knew who the Turks were a little later. There will be more time to put together a dozen gallows for new members of the "sworn friends" club am
  30. +1
    7 December 2015 21: 45
    Well, here, the letter of the Cossacks, finally, reached the Sultan. Soon we will see the Igilovites in embroidered shirts.
  31. 0
    7 December 2015 21: 47
    Now steal the devil himself and Satan are friends!
  32. 0
    7 December 2015 21: 56
    Ukroboronprom and the Turkish defense company Aselsan began negotiations on joint activities to modernize armored vehicles and artillery,

    Hurray !, the joint use of Azovets-type dumpsters will turn the tide on the Turkish-Syrian border.
  33. 0
    7 December 2015 21: 58
    Quote: GRAY
    They found each other.

    Natasha ??
  34. 0
    7 December 2015 22: 02
    this is good, Ukrainians will throw them 100% at the start. Well, they can not do otherwise, even if they want.
  35. 0
    7 December 2015 22: 31
    Poroshenko after a conversation with Kerry allowed an open war between Turkey and Russia.
    At a meeting with reporters on the eve of the “without recording” format, the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko allowed an open war between Turkey and Russia. This was broadcast on the program "Question of National Security" by a military journalist, former Crimean Roman Bochkala.
    According to him, the president conveyed a summary of the conversation with US Secretary of State John Kerry.
    “The President talked with Kerry, he couldn’t tell everything, of course, from the content of this conversation, but as I understood it, he said,“ the world is on the verge of very serious geopolitical changes ”, that some things are allowed, right down to the military - In relations between Russia and Turkey. That is, diplomatic measures, as I understand it, are essentially exhausted, and now there are very serious discussions within NATO about how to react and what to do, ”Bochkala said.
    http://www.politnavigator.net/poroshenko-posle-razgovora-s-kerri-dopustil-otkryt

    uyu-vojjnu-turcii-i-rossii.html
    By simplicity of soul or by drunk, Offal has leaked very important information that you will certainly be interested in.
  36. +1
    7 December 2015 22: 34
    Sung the asps! Some are "ho ... sluggish", others - "black ... opy". Soon they will ride together on the Maidan? And who, after all, dug the Black Sea out of them? Will they not fight over the championship?
  37. 0
    7 December 2015 23: 03
    Ukraine has t-64s in the turret M60 and Leopards ... - the only thing they can upgrade together is Turkish jeans, which the crews of these tanks wear outside the duty station hi
  38. +1
    7 December 2015 23: 31
    Let me look paranoid, but they can succeed ... Among the Ukrainian design engineers there are many who worked under the Union. Well, the Turks have a material resource.
    So I think that if you add these parts, then maybe something will "burn out".
    And even more so, one should not consider our "opponents" (dashes - enemies) to be krivoruk idiots.
  39. INF
    0
    7 December 2015 23: 45
    Do not forget to touch the Turks out of habit.
  40. 0
    7 December 2015 23: 55
    Poroshenko said "IN UKRAINE" !!!!! ....... - 49 seconds.

    ... IN Ukraine .... said the president of the country which is "B".

    (in a meeting with the owner)



    Native speakers are a little perplexed:
    1. 0
      8 December 2015 00: 15
      Why are they from this "in or on" so enraged honestly a mystery. But they freak out and that's a fact. Nobody would pay attention, but now - this is a whole problem for them and a reason for the Internet srachs. And now their president said "NA" to Ukraine. - this is kapets)))) I foresee a wagon of jokes, and ukrobeshenstva.))
  41. +2
    8 December 2015 04: 08
    Quote: fomich1977
    Let me look paranoid, but they can succeed ... Among the Ukrainian design engineers there are many who worked under the Union. Well, the Turks have a material resource.
    So I think that if you add these parts, then maybe something will "burn out".
    And even more so, one should not consider our "opponents" (dashes - enemies) to be krivoruk idiots.

    Yes, nothing, will not burn out. To burn out you need to decide in which direction to work. And then the trouble is that for some, that for others. The Turks do not know what to do, to finish the Altai with which they have been dripping for 15 years, or to modernize M-ki and Leopards. Well, let's say unification of some nodes is possible here. But then there appeared protoukry with a prototank T-64, which, the poor, do not know what to screw to it in order to modernize it. These are two completely different schools of tank building, and as experience shows, nothing good usually comes from such cooperation. And this cooperation will end exactly at the moment when the time comes for the Ukrainian side to take part in the project, something more significant than signing contracts with a ballpoint pen. And those engineers in Ukraine who are able to propose solutions out of the blue have already died out. There is now a city tank "Azovets", they cannot even put their own developments of the 2000s on stream. As an engineering power, Ukraine has come to an end, God forbid the agrarian component, not to ditch.
    1. 0
      8 December 2015 12: 58
      There are no machine tools or workers, even metallurgy.
  42. 0
    8 December 2015 04: 57
    Perhaps all that can still be squeezed from Ukraine is their ideas in the military field, which Turkey will certainly come in handy. After this work, only analysis can be taken from Ukraine! But this area is in miserable condition among the Ukrainians, because for 25 years the equipment has gone hopelessly far, but they have so far been kneading manure.
  43. bad
    0
    8 December 2015 05: 30
    Quote: oleg-gr
    They decided to be friends against the Russian Federation. Will such friendship last long? Short-term relationship.
    ..pornography, per sexual intercourse laughing will circle each other to fuck for free laughing interesting result-who whom? laughing
  44. 0
    8 December 2015 05: 38
    for starters, Ukraine still needs to survive, which is very doubtful
  45. 0
    8 December 2015 06: 11
    While they will modernize their junk, our military affairs will go far ahead.
  46. 0
    8 December 2015 09: 41
    Two dibila is power!)))
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