Poland expresses desire to participate in "nuclear missions" of NATO

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Alexander Grushko, Russia's Permanent Representative to NATO, said that Moscow is expressing concerns about the NATO initiative to work with several countries of the alliance within the framework of the so-called nuclear missions (the Nuclear Sharing program). So, earlier it was reported that Poland is going to join this program. RIA News cites the text of the statement of Alexander Grushko:

We have pointed out that this program does not comply with the fundamental provisions of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear weapons, Article 1 and 2 of this agreement, which is one of the pillars of the international security system. It explicitly states that nuclear states do not transfer nuclear weapons to non-nuclear states, and non-nuclear states refuse to attempt to gain control over such weapons. In general, NATO dual-purpose missions, in which a number of members of the alliance participate, do not correspond to this. And we will continue to point this out at all sites.


Poland expresses desire to participate in "nuclear missions" of NATO


Earlier, Germany, Italy and Belgium joined the so-called nuclear missions, which, according to NATO, have a civilian component. Now Poland has submitted to Brussels a request for its interest in participating in missions. This was reported by the British press with reference to the Deputy Minister of Defense of Poland Tomasz Shatkovsky. If these nuclear missions have civilian targets, then a) where does the Polish Ministry of Defense, b) how does the NATO military block have to do with civilian missions?

In Poland itself, they said they did not talk about the desire to place American weapons on their territory. According to the aforementioned Shatkovsky, we are talking about "the resulting shortage of nuclear deterrence on the eastern borders of NATO."

For reference: in NATO at the moment there are three states with nuclear weapons. These are the USA, Britain and France.
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  1. +7
    7 December 2015 17: 11
    It seems to be stuffing or feeling the reaction to possible actions.
    1. +27
      7 December 2015 17: 14
      Psheks seem to want to get our nuclear triad on the head, in terms of ambition and arrogance the pseaks resemble dill.
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        1. +5
          7 December 2015 17: 48
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          a great chance to get ready-made high-tech nuclear weapons,

          Which will be under the constant control of someone else’s uncle in star-striped underpants, and even having received it, they won’t be able to use it without the knowledge of that uncle, even if they really want to. This is becoming even more dependent on those very cowards. Additional representatives of the overseas country, which need to be fed, watered, gratified at the expense of Poland.
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            1. +3
              7 December 2015 20: 07
              Quote: Haettenschweiler
              And if ...

              If, yes, the Poles could resist Germany ... then the smart himself will understand everything.
              1. +4
                7 December 2015 21: 49
                Quote: Hedgehog
                If, yes, the Poles could resist Germany ... then the smart himself will understand everything.



                Hmm ... the history has long been forgotten by the Poles ... selectively (!!!) ... The German is now a friend of the Pole, comrade and brother ... But the Russian as an enemy remained so ...

                PS The Poles, just like in the East: the stronger the master slaves the slave, the stronger the master’s slave loves ... Maybe Russia should try this method ???
                1. +1
                  7 December 2015 22: 21
                  Quote: veksha50
                  history has long been forgotten by the Poles ... selectively

                  Not only that, selectively, I suspect that they intentionally remember her here, but here they do not remember. I remember in my youth Between Poland and Germany there was a squabble regarding the lost / acquired lands. I am sure that even now they often recall the lost lands. But they are afraid to arise. And on occasion, they will remember everything and everyone. Although Ukraine they already recall Lviv and the district.
          2. 0
            8 December 2015 00: 51
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Additional representatives of the overseas country, which need to be fed, watered, gratified at the expense of Poland.


            So what? For all-European plumbers, the state of "no trousers, but in a drop" is normal and not the first time. bully
        2. +5
          7 December 2015 18: 42
          They won’t get anything. For us, they will become the point at which it will be necessary, if something serious happens, to strike, and for Amers, simply abroad, which again we will need to eliminate before we again engage in the states.

          America is simply trying to cover itself again and again, and stupid Europeans still can’t understand what our civilizations are once again clashing their heads.
          1. +3
            7 December 2015 21: 50
            Quote: armata37
            America is simply trying to cover itself again and again, and stupid Europeans still can’t understand what our civilizations are once again clashing their heads.



            To be honest and cynical, Poland remained a buffer, and remained ...
            1. WKS
              +1
              7 December 2015 22: 39
              Quote: veksha50
              To be honest and cynical, Poland remained a buffer, and remained ...

              More precisely, the front bumper, only now Amerovsky.
        3. +3
          7 December 2015 18: 50
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          “For Poland, this is a great chance to get ready-made high-tech nuclear weapons without investing a dime in its development.” Only d ... cancer would refuse

          Why then was the treaty "On the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons" signed if it is so easy to get it? Interestingly, our Balts also participate in this program, they can't do without a nuclear bomb, if they pay off with sprats
      2. +2
        7 December 2015 17: 23
        Quote: vovanpain
        Pshek seem to want to get our nuclear triad

        An example is the use of nuclear weapons.
      3. 0
        7 December 2015 17: 24
        Too close to our borders. Ashes will fall asleep Moscow, with a fair wind, in a day.
        And then who will live there?
        Restraint is necessary, restraint.
        Now, if by the states dawdle!
        And then it will come to us.
        1. +2
          7 December 2015 17: 37
          Quote: demo
          Ashes will fall asleep Moscow, in fair wind


          not fall asleep.

          Now, if by the states dawdle!

          it’ll fall asleep here.
          1. +1
            7 December 2015 17: 49
            Quote: lopvlad
            Quote: demo
            Ashes will fall asleep Moscow, in fair wind


            not fall asleep.

            Now, if by the states dawdle!

            it’ll fall asleep here.

            Wind rose. Mostly westerly and northwesterly winds. So that the first will be Brest, then Minsk, Smolensk, Moscow, etc.

            pisi: True, we won't have a day, in 15-20 minutes we will all burn up in a nuclear flame. Perhaps even earlier. In Siberia, our guys can last longer. The Australian antipodes will probably "live" even longer. Although a full-fledged life the question will no longer be raised, as it will not be among the antipodes.
            1. +1
              7 December 2015 22: 19
              So it is necessary to officially declare that all objects on the ETVD that have or assume the placement of nuclear weapons have been taken at gunpoint and it will be a NUCLEAR STRIKE that will be inflicted on them, and not some kind of targeted "humane" means.
            2. +1
              7 December 2015 22: 28
              By the way, about the wind rose, it will be necessary to beat something not in eastern, but in western Poland, God forbid. So that the first will not be Brest.
      4. +5
        7 December 2015 17: 32
        Quote: vovanpain
        by ambition and arrogance, the psheks resemble dill.
        If they deploy at least one nuclear missile on their territory, they all will have to live a few minutes after the outbreak of war. And the fact that the war between Russia and the West is inevitable, I think everyone guesses.
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      6. +3
        7 December 2015 17: 37
        Quote: vovanpain
        Psheks seem to want to get our nuclear triad on the head, in terms of ambition and arrogance the pseaks resemble dill.

        If this goes on, then our triad will not be enough for all. Unless suddenly overseas die, which is almost unbelievable.
        1. +2
          7 December 2015 21: 54
          Quote: larand
          If this goes on, then our triad is not enough for all.



          That's just put a plus for it, dear ... And many people think that the nuclear triad is a bottomless barrel ...

          By the number of warheads in the triad, we have parity only with the USA (!!!), and there are still many who have nuclear weapons in stock, and among them there are no friends of Russia ...

          If someone hopes for help from the Chinese side, then they are deeply mistaken ... Everything will be exactly the opposite ... "Finish the fallen one" and take away his wealth (territory) ...
        2. 0
          8 December 2015 00: 25
          Enough for the geyropu. There will be many more on others. A star-whale and enough volcano. What is it called there?
      7. 0
        7 December 2015 18: 05
        Quote: vovanpain
        Psheks seem to want to get our nuclear triad on the head, in terms of ambition and arrogance the pseaks resemble dill.

        so then they several times went through a stage like the one that Ukraine is currently undergoing, so no wonder syndrome!
      8. +1
        7 December 2015 19: 53
        According to the aforementioned Shatkovsky, we are talking about "the apparent deficit of nuclear deterrence on the eastern borders of NATO."

        Another pshekomarazm. They are like that Bobik who kicked in a dream and scared himself!
    2. +5
      7 December 2015 17: 14
      "For the record: NATO currently has three states that have nuclear weapons. They are the United States, Britain and France."

      And in how many countries are these weapons located?
      1. 0
        7 December 2015 21: 56
        Quote: Reserve officer
        And in how many countries are these weapons located?



        In Germany - it definitely is ... In Scandinavia - no (supposedly not, how do we know) ...

        Previously in Spain and Italy it was ...
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      1. +1
        7 December 2015 17: 52
        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        Such a force could be the military-political union of the Federation and the PRC, but ... it did not happen.


        and it won’t happen. The Chinese dragon painfully pissed off. Yes, and not a dragon, he is a monkey at all.
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        2. 0
          7 December 2015 21: 59
          Quote: lopvlad
          and it won’t happen. The Chinese dragon painfully pissed off. Yes, and not a dragon, he is a monkey at all.



          Hmm ... I remember, somehow at the self-training they began to think what would happen if the Chinese went to the convoy one at a time and shot them calmly from the PC ... I don’t remember already, but some kind of demonic and terrible picture turned out: not enough barrels to change and pull cartridges, in general, they still run down and trample ... Or throw their hats ...

          This is me to the fact that US, mentioning China, hats will not help ...
    4. +7
      7 December 2015 17: 22
      Quote: cniza
      It seems like a throw-in or feel the reaction to possible actions

      Not stuffing. It seems that the US has already made a decision - to have nuclear weapons in Poland. Actually, with or without nuclear weapons, but in the event of a global war, the Poles will get theirs. One of the first, as an outpost of NATO. Five thousand units of Russian nuclear weapons are just for this purpose intended. We are asking for the pan, tse inOina.
      1. 0
        7 December 2015 22: 02
        Quote: Penetrator
        We are asking for the pan, tse inOina.



        And the pan will have a pale appearance ... I wanted to say something about pallor in Polish, but I had already been banned for the name of the Vietnamese island once, counting as a mat, so it would be the same with the pallor of Poland ... But it’s a pity, it would sound out of place ...
    5. +6
      7 December 2015 17: 26
      The population density in the EU is 4 times higher than in the European part of Russia.
      It is a pity, of course, to be Europeans. But there is such a proverb in Russia: its own
      shirt closer to the body. If the Europeans decided to pose as sacrificial
      lambs, this is their business ...
      1. 0
        7 December 2015 22: 07
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        It is a pity, of course, to be Europeans.



        Ahem ... And you can specifically say who and what of the Europeans feel sorry for you ???

        Without sighing about children and old women, but what about their affairs in relation to Russia-the USSR-Russia ???

        Especially - for the affairs of recent years ???

        Do they pity us ??? No, they want a victorious war with us, they want the word Russia not to be mentioned, they want Russia to be tattered to shreds ...

        PS Today is good news tonight - Marie Le Pen passed the first round of the selective race ... And who would tell me ten years ago that I would be happy about the preliminary victory of the Nazi nationalist in France ??? Lord, how the world and people are changing ...
    6. +3
      7 December 2015 17: 28
      This is just a crowned cock once again raged.
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    8. 0
      7 December 2015 21: 29
      It is necessary for the Serbs to make an offer, maybe they will be interested in the opportunity to participate in our nuclear missions!
    9. 0
      7 December 2015 21: 44
      Quote: cniza
      It seems to be stuffing or feeling the reaction to possible actions.



      What is the stuffing if Polish pilots have been training in the use of tactical nuclear bombs by NATO instructors since last fall?

      And no one asked permission from anyone ...

      I can roughly imagine the picture in the future (pah-pah, so as not to jinx it): with a big mess, the brave three Polish pilots and Sharik (instead of tankers) with sodden bombs are eager to break through the Russian air defense ... Naturally, they are unlikely to break through, but will distract attention .. .

      PS But it can turn out exactly the opposite: for such equivocations and the deployment of a NATO missile defense system on their territory they will be the first to get a head ...
  2. +20
    7 December 2015 17: 12
    Poland expresses its desire to participate in NATO's "nuclear missions". The flag is in your hands!
  3. +2
    7 December 2015 17: 15
    Poland wants to sniff the nukem, and by no means from NATO special munitions ....
  4. +6
    7 December 2015 17: 15
    If Poland wants to be a large radioactive foundation pit in the future, then of course let them agree.
    1. +4
      7 December 2015 17: 32
      (When a Jew found out how much an atomic bomb costs, he began to ask God to drop him in the garden) He will have to help the Slav brothers. wink
  5. +3
    7 December 2015 17: 16
    Poles really want to become a target for a nuclear strike. if you please ..
  6. +3
    7 December 2015 17: 21
    Well, where without these deer. To create something nuclear by ourselves - so strained, stupid, but sucking in - is with pleasure, and you will have FULL security from aggressive Russia. The second time they’re stupid - you don’t even have to spend nuclear ammunition on you - your native NATO detonates along with the packaging, you won’t have time to print it.
  7. +3
    7 December 2015 17: 24
    Something bad with delivery vehicles in North Korea
  8. +1
    7 December 2015 17: 24
    Fokusima plumbers carry nuclear waste in buckets.
  9. +1
    7 December 2015 17: 25
    It didn’t seem like this at all for ordinary Poles, but their politicians know that by placing them in their strategic nuclear weapons they will be the target of our missiles. Even the absence of the very fact of deploying their strategic nuclear weapons will already give them an additional opportunity to yell at the Russian Federation that we are aggressors and demand from NATO additional dough for arms. Russophobia is so ... contagious and beneficial
  10. +2
    7 December 2015 17: 27
    The Poles historical memory leapt
  11. +2
    7 December 2015 17: 28
    Poland expresses desire to participate in "nuclear missions" of NATO

    With such a pace, in the near future, they will be able to personally see how a nuclear mine is burning. They say "scary beautiful" bully
  12. +5
    7 December 2015 17: 29
    Yesterday, the Polish Ministry of Defense has already denied this: The Ministry of Defense of Poland does not work on obtaining nuclear weapons by the republic. This is stated in a statement issued on Sunday by the military department.

    "At present, the Ministry of Defense is not working on joining our country to the NATO Nuclear Sharing program," the ministry said. "The deputy minister’s statement should be interpreted in the context of emerging comments from serious analytical centers in the West, indicating a lack of NATO nuclear deterrence capabilities in the eastern flank ", - specified in the Ministry of Defense. “These comments suggest various solutions, including expanding the agreement on the division of NATO’s tactical nuclear weapons,” the agency said. “Various options should be considered, including some form of Poland’s participation in this program.”

    The Ministry of Defense also recalled that "Poland is a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons", therefore, "the government has no plans to receive such weapons." “A possible decision regarding any form of Poland’s participation in the program should be subject to agreement at the political level both within the country and with the allies,” the ministry said.
  13. +2
    7 December 2015 17: 31
    In general, nuclear weapons were given to Israel just like that, now another survivor is going to store nuclear bombs at his place. A survivor because they will be solemnly included in the list of priority goals for our Strategic Rocket Forces. Dig bunkers poles.
  14. 0
    7 December 2015 17: 36
    Psheki! want to die, breathe. Russia is not the USSR scribe will come immediately and complete. Nobody will remember the brotherhood of workers and peasants. lol
  15. 0
    7 December 2015 17: 38
    An interesting move: if the Poles use nuclear weapons, then, like, the USA has nothing to do with it.
  16. 0
    7 December 2015 17: 41
    I think the North Koreans will not refuse to participate in the "nuclear missions" of our Strategic Missile Forces ... feel
    1. +3
      7 December 2015 17: 44
      Quote: engineer74
      I think the North Koreans will not refuse to participate in the "nuclear missions" of our Strategic Missile Forces ...
      I think the Syrians will not refuse, and Tajiks, and Kazakhs And Raul Castro, too wassat
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  17. 0
    7 December 2015 17: 42
    If Russia detonates even one fifth of its nuclear potential at its bases in the Russian Federation, then a scribe will come to all living things on earth. So, sit still and breathe evenly, but never go to Russia.
  18. +4
    7 December 2015 17: 45
    Quote: Haettenschweiler
    For Poland, this is a great chance to get ready-made high-tech nuclear weapons without investing a dime in its development. Only d ... cancer would refuse.

    Only a foolish person is looking for adventure in his Greater Poland ass! laughing
  19. +1
    7 December 2015 17: 45
    Quote: vovanpain
    Psheks seem to want to get our nuclear triad on the head, in terms of ambition and arrogance the pseaks resemble dill.

    Check the reaction of Russia. They play on the mood of Poland, who wants to be the GREAT OF THE GREAT. You play with fire, gentlemen!
    1. +2
      7 December 2015 19: 50
      While Russia is silent, the West is becoming increasingly impudent. They probably already think that they have tamed us.
      All the more astonishing will be the imminent imminent Russian response.
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  20. -3
    7 December 2015 17: 53
    In Krasnoyarsk, let’s say a tectonic plate breaks. Put a nuclear warhead into the rift and the arms race is over.
  21. +1
    7 December 2015 17: 57
    Poland submitted a request to Brussels for its interest in participating in missions. This was reported by the British press with reference to the Deputy Minister of Defense of Poland Tomasz Shatkowski.

    Meanwhile, the Polish Ministry of Defense denied the information -
    The Ministry of Defense of Poland does not work on obtaining nuclear weapons by the republic. This is stated in a statement issued on Sunday by the military department.
    Thus, the Polish department commented on the statements of the Deputy Minister of Defense of the country Tomasz Shatkowski, who in the local television program stated the need for Poland to gain access to nuclear weapons.

    http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2503029
  22. 0
    7 December 2015 18: 05
    Why don’t we give Iran nuclear weapons in return?
    1. 0
      7 December 2015 21: 39
      At least a fake, to the parade. Yes, along the main street with an orchestra. wink
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  23. +2
    7 December 2015 18: 15
    Well, the Poles will receive parcels from Russia from the postmen Topol, Rubezh, Skif Russia is big and the Poles will have 3 gifts enough to destroy the nation
  24. 0
    7 December 2015 18: 19
    I did not understand anything from the article .. what do psheki want? AO or what? If yes, then I want a Jedi sword from Star Wars
    1. 0
      7 December 2015 20: 01
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      AO or what?

      Yeah, AO !!!
      AO - Polish Autonomous Okrug as part of Belarus)))
  25. 0
    7 December 2015 18: 32
    It seems that the order-dogs of the Atamans and Polish pans of the Konarmeyskie blades seemed to have forgotten us. As long as Russia has at least one friend of Poland, they will continue to escalate further.
  26. +2
    7 December 2015 18: 33
    The history of the Poles does not teach anything! How can a country be great if it behaves like a train station p / r / o / s / t / and / t / y / t / c / a.
    1. +1
      7 December 2015 18: 51
      Quote: SPB 1221
      How a country can be great

      very simple as the Great Station Forgive the Lord my sinful soul!
  27. +1
    7 December 2015 18: 50
    Reference book: forgot how to count. If the NATO countries in serial training are trained to work with atomic weapons, then what are the 3 powers in question. Germany, Poland, Belgium, Denmark are already involved in this weapon, it remains to give the Baltic monkeys. But is it not time for the countries of America and Asia to donate dozens of atomic ammunition to calm them down ?!
  28. 0
    7 December 2015 19: 04
    Poland is like a mediocre athlete who needs doping to get results.
  29. +1
    7 December 2015 19: 57
    Well, how can you answer this? The most effective way is to create a hotbed of tension for NATO. For example, train the flight personnel of North Korea and Iran who know how to handle "vigorous" bombs.
  30. +1
    7 December 2015 20: 17
    Quote: bsk_mna54
    But is it not time for the countries of America and Asia to donate dozens of atomic ammunition to calm them down ?!

    And yet, in order to resist the temptation of the United States to expose some "six" under attack and stay away, it is necessary to reflect in the military doctrine the principle of retaliation for the instigator - like;
    -In the event of a strike using TNW, the Russian Federation reserves the right to launch a simultaneous retaliatory nuclear strike on the territory of the United States and Great Britain, regardless of the location of the country from whose territory the strike was carried out on the Russian Federation ....
  31. +1
    7 December 2015 20: 40
    The Psheks with their hostile statements completely beguiled and forgot the proverb: Szybkie wszy grzebień podlega pierwszy.
  32. 0
    7 December 2015 21: 32
    Poland jumps out of his pants to bend as much as possible in front of the mattresses. Independently from their voivodship, they will not miss a mission to Syria. The gut is thin. And so, as always the same thing. The calculation of the sound effect in our direction. In general, if they get nonsense, to place something at home, then for us, the larger the goal, the more difficult it is to miss it. It is necessary that they understand this and do not rely on chance.
  33. +1
    7 December 2015 21: 40
    "Previously, to the so-called nuclear missions, which, according to NATO, have a civilian component, Germany, Italy and Belgium are connected"...

    Well, it’s not a question that NATO, or rather the USA, has been training pilots not only from these countries, but also from the use of tactical nuclear weapons from Poland last year ... Why would it be if they DO NOT HAVE IT ???

    Obviously, the training course is completed, it remains only to formalize somehow legal-casuistic, considering the whole world as idiots ...

    And Poland ... Oh, this Poland ... In Europe, there are two primary vipers - these are Naglia and Poshland ...
  34. 0
    7 December 2015 21: 41
    And psheki are not afraid, otherwise "light elves" such entertainers love to lose their vigorous poop so much. The Spaniards will not let you lie and not only they laughing
  35. 0
    8 December 2015 00: 17
    Poland expresses desire to participate in "nuclear missions" of NATO

    As a polygon. laughing
  36. +1
    8 December 2015 02: 01
    You can play nuclear games with the Mexicos - look at the reaction of amoebas
    1. 0
      8 December 2015 04: 53
      Cuba .. Mexico, Bolivia ......... for fun it will begin there many more can be passed on ... Colombian cortels will have tactical charges by the way)))
  37. 0
    8 December 2015 04: 51
    So it's time to withdraw from the contract if it is not respected ...
  38. 0
    8 December 2015 05: 42
    Yankees feel the situation
  39. 0
    8 December 2015 05: 55
    why do we need all these treaties, America has long scored them and screams like a slaughter when it comes to Russia, and they are always right like. How many mines of the Strategic Missile Forces destroyed and the BZHRD, now it's time to restore it all.

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