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Wizards from the IMF invented a special recipe for Ukraine: not default, but zombie economy

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The less time is left until December 20, the more actively the officials of the International Monetary Fund begin to fidget in their seats. The reason is that December 20 is the deadline when Ukraine either has to pay 3 a billion dollars of loan obligations to the Russian Federation, or provide an authoritative public or private financial structure capable of giving Russia guarantees of repayment of debt in the period 2016 through 2018.


Recall that earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the Russian Federation was ready to accept such a restructuring option that even the International Monetary Fund itself did not ask for Moscow. The head of the IMF, Christine Lagarde, in fact, recognized Ukraine’s state debt, offered Russia to postpone payment of debt obligations by Ukraine to 2016 a year, and Russia considered it possible to install payments for Ukraine on 3 of the year (by a billion dollars from 2016 to 2018). The only condition for Russia is the provision of guarantees from a reputable structure regarding the fact that Ukraine will precisely fulfill its debt obligations to Russia.

Since Vladimir Putin’s proposal was voiced, several weeks have passed, but no respected financial structure is going to take responsibility for the Maidan Ukraine. The United States refused to provide guarantees at all, in effect confirming the thesis that Ukraine had lost all statehood and was not able to act as a subject of legal economic relations of the state format.

Now Ukraine has less than two weeks before the real default, because according to the IMF charter, if a state refuses or cannot make scheduled payments on government debt, then its economy automatically defaults. Yatsenyuk, the Prime Minister of Ukraine, declares that he is not going to accept any conditions of Russia and “insists” on writing off 20% of the debt and on installments of payments on the remaining amount up to 2019 of the year.

In other words, the situation less than two weeks before December 20 is quite a dead end: Maidan authorities don't want to pay the “independent” (yes, especially for now there is nothing — the European embankment, ”for example, where it is more significant, because Yatsenyuk himself can cut millions ), Russia does not accept Yatsenyuk conditions, the IMF does not find someone who could vouch for Russia for Ukraine.

And in such a situation, the Board of the International Monetary Fund is going to go to unprecedented and openly questionable measures. In order to save the Maidan henchmen of the West (and the IMF and the project of Western “friends”) from popular anger, which will be inevitable in the event of a Ukrainian default, the IMF is ready to revise the basic principles of the organization’s work. At the moment, the basic rule of the IMF is as follows: if the state refuses (is not able) to service the state debt, its economy is declared default, and lending to such an economy is automatically collapsed. Now, the "bright minds" of the executive board of the International Monetary Fund are going to consider the question that you can go to the formula: "credit, even if defaulted." A sort of zombie economy - in the sense that when the state economy ordered to live long, everyone continues to be called upon to feed her with a spoon and to speak as if it were alive ...

Wizards from the IMF invented a special recipe for Ukraine: not default, but zombie economy


As a matter of fact, in such a situation, to put it mildly, the very concept of default is smeared out, and creditors become practically statisticians - after all, in fact, they may not receive a penny from the indebted state, since the IMF is ready to continue to pour money into the black default through the system of state creditors hole with no guarantees of return.

IMF spokesman Jerry Rice reports that the change in the rules of the fund can take place in two stages. One of the stages is the revision of the Lending-into-Arrears Policy. This is the policy of crediting of one or another state by the International Monetary Fund, under which the loan funds are received only by those countries that fulfill their debt obligations. The second stage, to all appearances, may turn out to be altogether “wonderful” up to the revision of the very concept of “default”.

If the executive board of the IMF decides on a change in the basic principles of credit policy, then in fact it will lead to a breakdown of the long-standing system of macroeconomic relations. And in this case, the IMF and its main puppeteers will be difficult to suspect in the glimpses of humanism. The fact is that, for example, Argentina was not met by the IMF or the American creditor banks in recent years for some reason did not go, demanding to pay not only all the amounts on loans, but also draconian interest. The Argentine authorities asked to go on the path of debt restructuring and were ready to make part of the payments immediately, but none of the creditors were impressed, and Argentina, with its incomparably more efficient (unlike Ukraine) economy, was plunged into default without any options about changing the credit policy IMF. Attention is drawn to the fact that the Argentine economy was brought to default by a decision of the American court. Argentina was deprived of the right to international borrowing, frankly reducing accounts with President Christina Kirchner, who openly declared her unwillingness to do the will of the United States. Now another person has come to power in Argentina - the oppositionist Mauricio Macri, whose election is so happy in Washington ... Apparently, there will be no defaults for Argentina now ...

From all this we can draw one conclusion: no macroeconomic laws in the world are actually implemented. The situation with the same IMF has slipped to the next level: if Western puppets are at the head of a state, then the default for this state is taboo! For this purpose, ridiculous formulas will be invented, having nothing in common with the economy, charters and agreements will be rewritten, public debts will be artificially transferred to the category of private ones, etc., etc. Everything - with one sole purpose: to keep the puppets in their chairs so that they have the opportunity to promote the interests of their puppeteers.

Bravo, IMF! ..
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  2. inkass_98
    inkass_98 8 December 2015 06: 47 New
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    Well, so why is the representative of Russia in the IMF? It is necessary either to block such decisions as far as possible, or to leave such organizations as useless. Does it mean to prolong the agony of one former country at the expense of our money with your own hands?
    1. sa-zz
      sa-zz 8 December 2015 06: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: inkass_98
      Well, why is the representative of Russia in the IMF?

      It is better to be aware of the dirty tricks, and have time to block.
      1. ibu355yandex.ru
        ibu355yandex.ru 8 December 2015 08: 25 New
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        The representative of Russia in the IMF represents Russia, but not the interests of Russia ... And who said that Russia has some veto power in the IMF? We are clearly not in the leading positions there. This is not the UN for you.
      2. pettabyte
        pettabyte 8 December 2015 19: 16 New
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        Quote: sa-zz
        It is better to be aware of the dirty tricks, and have time to block.


        So we are not there for free.
        Maybe enough to pay western sluts?
      3. Cherdak
        Cherdak 10 December 2015 16: 41 New
        0
        Quote: sa-zz
        ... but it’s time to block.


        It is naive to think so, tea is not the UN Security Council.

        The IMF operates principle of "weighted" number of votes: the ability of member countries to influence the activities of the Fund through voting is determined by their share in its capital.

        The largest number of votes in the IMF are: USA - 17,08% ... Russia - 2,74%.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 December 2015 07: 03 New
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      Quote: inkass_98
      We must either block such decisions as far as possible,

      It’s not possible that there about 80% of the votes belong to the United States.
      1. vasiliysxx
        vasiliysxx 8 December 2015 07: 19 New
        +3
        there it seems a veto can be imposed at 15% in special cases when voting.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 8 December 2015 07: 49 New
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          Quote: vasiliysxx
          it seems you can veto it at 15% in

          It’s better to immediately put on the Pentagon and not interest.
      2. Andrea
        Andrea 8 December 2015 08: 17 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It’s not possible that there about 80% of the votes belong to the United States.
        For blocking, 15% is enough, and there will be more dissenting people there, I think. In general, all this fuss around the Ukrainian default leaves a double feeling: on the one hand, it entertains, on the other, somehow disgusting.
        1. cniza
          cniza 8 December 2015 08: 28 New
          +7
          Quote: Andrea
          In general, all this fuss around the Ukrainian default leaves a double feeling: on the one hand, it entertains, on the other, somehow disgusting.



          If they, the USA, take this step, everyone else will flee from the IMF.
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          2. The black
            The black 8 December 2015 10: 54 New
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            Probably yes. And for the IMF, it will end in complete bankruptcy. Sovereign creditors, even in the case of defaults and moratoria, will demand repayment of debts from bankrupt states. They will sue, appealing to international courts. It is hard to imagine how the IMF will continue to lend to such bankrupt. Those who are even a little versed in credit understand what chaos will arise in the field of international finance.
          3. Simple russian
            Simple russian 8 December 2015 15: 30 New
            +6
            Russia should be the first to leave this American fund, because there is no reason to pay our contributions there.
          4. Roxa
            Roxa 8 December 2015 19: 56 New
            +2
            If they, the United States, take this step, everyone else will flee from the IMF. \

            Yes, they will not run, they will continue to watch in silence
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        3. Lukich
          Lukich 8 December 2015 13: 02 New
          +7
          Quote: Andrea
          , on the other, disgusting somehow.

          but not disgusting, disgusting and squeamish. in a word, an abomination am
      3. The black
        The black 8 December 2015 10: 52 New
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        This is not so. The USA owns 17% of the vote, and together with its allies in the G7 - 42%, so much will depend on the position of the representatives of the BRICS countries (I'm talking about 15 percent needed for the veto)
      4. Asadullah
        Asadullah 8 December 2015 18: 32 New
        0
        It’s not possible that there about 80% of the votes belong to the United States.


        Everything belongs to the USA there, because it is a tool for pitting excess assets. As soon as an avalanche of illiquid mass of greens hangs over, they immediately choose the country into which this mass is pushed and the state’s sovereignty is buried for a hundred years. That is why the IMF reform is ripe, for there are almost no countries left that hopelessly owe.
      5. Mariner
        Mariner 8 December 2015 23: 17 New
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        It really is. If such hell goes on, you just need to stop contributing there.
    3. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 8 December 2015 07: 15 New
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      Quote: inkass_98
      Sense with your own hands to prolong the agony of one former country at the expense of our money?
      1. cniza
        cniza 8 December 2015 07: 52 New
        +9
        This theater, which is played by the United States in front of the whole world, is the beginning of the end of the IMF and no matter how the United States turns around, the IMF will die (together with the United States).
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      3. Begemot
        Begemot 8 December 2015 08: 37 New
        +9
        Good money, and soon it will be possible to buy on it only 1 liter of smoke from tires.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 8 December 2015 13: 09 New
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          Quote: Begemot
          Good money, and soon it will be possible to buy on it only 1 liter of smoke from tires.

          Or this one))) And what can I buy on it, it says on it
          1. Serhio
            Serhio 8 December 2015 15: 58 New
            0
            Parasha also costs money. In this case, a hole from the bucket. yes
      4. Nick1953
        Nick1953 9 December 2015 14: 11 New
        0
        It is necessary to print on the hryvnia ZERO. Especially round tires :-)
    4. vkl-47
      vkl-47 8 December 2015 07: 32 New
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      everything is logical for zombie people zombie economy. I imagine how this gilt will hang before the new year about how the great change came. mol everything is beautiful almost
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 8 December 2015 08: 03 New
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        Quote: vkl-47
        .I imagine how this gilt will screech before the new year about how the great breakthrough came, saying that everything is fine, we are almost vroupeytsy


        Sorry to edit your quote.
        Of course, there will be screeching about the "great" victory of the wise U.K.R.o. Celebrations in this former country also take place on less significant occasions. On the eve of this "reversal", a commemorative coin is issued with the image of the ancient (and perhaps modern) u.q.r. bully
        (cry.)
        1. Patriot 1
          Patriot 1 8 December 2015 08: 31 New
          +6
          Quote: Lelek
          Quote: vkl-47
          .I imagine how this gilt will screech before the new year about how the great breakthrough came, saying that everything is fine, we are almost vroupeytsy


          Sorry to edit your quote.
          Of course, there will be screeching about the "great" victory of the wise U.K.R.o. Celebrations in this former country also take place on less significant occasions. On the eve of this "reversal", a commemorative coin is issued with the image of the ancient (and perhaps modern) u.q.r. bully(cry.)


          This is not UKR, and they depicted, but on the regular time before Obama bent down ... but apparently not very well
          1. unfriendly
            unfriendly 9 December 2015 17: 21 New
            0
            It seems to me all the same successful! laughing Look closely at the ears - a very good resemblance. laughing
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        3. The black
          The black 8 December 2015 12: 17 New
          +6
          Bravo to the central bank of Ukraine! ...5 frames.... it sounds very creative laughing
        4. Serhio
          Serhio 8 December 2015 16: 04 New
          +5
          And I like the association of wise ukrov with a monkey.) It remains only to add a grenade ... to complete the image. lol
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 8 December 2015 16: 53 New
            0
            Coins glorify banderlog! They will cost beyond the next few years. Coins of a non-existent country, coins of a non-Buddhist country with their symbols - this is something! wassat And about debts - I am economically illiterate, who would explain to me more simply: the United States is the largest debtor. To whom do they owe and why don't they repay debts? If for yourself, then why is it called duty? hi
    5. 79807420129
      79807420129 8 December 2015 07: 42 New
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      If the IMF changes the rules, this will be the end of the IMF itself, after the dill the Greeks of Cyprus will be indignant, etc. so this is death from their own hands for the sake of their ukrorabs.
    6. Finches
      Finches 8 December 2015 09: 03 New
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      We must pay tribute to the Jew, the Anglo - Saka financiers! They created such global economic instruments that allow them to twist the whole capitalist system, all states and peoples, and there’s no escape from it, even if the entire IMF board consists of our representatives alone! Only one competitor can oppose the global usurious system - another political and economic formation - socialism, with any person you like! That's the problem!
      1. Asadullah
        Asadullah 8 December 2015 18: 50 New
        +2
        Only one can resist the global usurious system competitor - Another political and economic formation - socialism, with any face!


        You yourself called it a competitor. A competitor is one who is stronger, who is stronger and survives. Socialism, in your concept, the socialism of the USSR turned out to be weaker, otherwise it would live, and each of its movements would create world waves on which everything would swing. Now exactly the opposite, American credit hegemony creates waves and hurricanes on which all world hostels sway and try not to drown, with the exception of China. In the case of China, socialism is present as one of the building tools, but not the main, main instrument of the CCP, is capitalism. But the main egregore of the success, independence and unsinkability of China is the national-Bolshevik hegemony of the CCP. The Chinese Communists, in principle, thanks to one person, Den Xiao Ping, boldly chopped off any ideological dogmas that impeded the development of the state, leaving only the most effective, the management system. By improving the lubrication and repair mechanism. They really wrap up the US credit hegemony against themselves. This is the only state in the world that the United States can not influence in any way, either politically (there is no Western election procedure) or economically (the US economy is directly tied to the Celestial economy, it’s called what they fought for ....), nor speculation (even a decrease in the price of the dollar by a hundred times will not have a critical effect on the economy of the PRC, and an appreciation instantly fabulously enriches the country, which essentially owns part of the United States in foreign currency equivalent.)
        1. Finches
          Finches 8 December 2015 18: 52 New
          0
          No one canceled the betrayal! The system was weaker because of its humanity ....
    7. Askin
      Askin 8 December 2015 10: 05 New
      -1
      Quote: inkass_98
      Sense with your own hands to prolong the agony of one former country at the expense of our money?

      But is the Kremlin doing wrong now? Gas, coal, electricity, etc. All this is supplied, and the daughters of Russian banks are working with might and main in Ukraine.
      The article is not about anything. Empty concussion.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 8 December 2015 11: 29 New
        +4
        I was always amazed by people who believed and continue to believe some kind of "international laws", "obligations", "norms", etc. There is only one right in the world - the "right of the strong" who lives not invented by someone there " - the laws ", but he lives" according to the concepts ":" don't believe, don't be afraid, don't ask. " All the rest are mongrels who dance to the tune of the strong, covering their squalor with these very "laws" that the "strong" invented for them ..
    8. Alexy
      Alexy 8 December 2015 11: 37 New
      +1
      Unfortunately, only mattress mattresses can block IMF decisions.
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    10. Alekseev
      Alekseev 8 December 2015 15: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: inkass_98
      or leave such organizations as unnecessary.

      That's right!
      Moreover, now the IMF has alternatives.
      And let the USA themselves keep Ukrainian, purely for their own.
      If they do not consider non-payment as default, then we need to take it.
      How? Yes, it’s just not possible to solve more than one Ukrainian selfish issue without settling payments. Neither you, Banderlog, the preferential customs regime, nor you coal for the hryvnia, nor gas, nor the purchase of cars and other mechanical engineering. In general, nothing dumb to you. wink
    11. Yarik
      Yarik 8 December 2015 16: 57 New
      +5
      he doesn’t get used to it!
    12. Asadullah
      Asadullah 8 December 2015 18: 24 New
      0
      Sense with your own hands to prolong the agony of one former country at the expense of our money?


      Do you even understand what you wrote? What does Russia and the IMF leadership have to do with it? Or is Russia a board member or a founder? A representative is an individual who is responsible for negotiating and exchanging information. The IMF is the US tool for the disposal of toxic assets. Your statement is comparable to the following: - Since the US is pursuing a policy hostile to Russia, immediately recall all intelligence agents there. Of course, you can translate everything into a joke of humor and continue the topic, for example, hit with an elbow in the cockpit of a plane, - eject, a bad bastard flies himself, if not for the amount of approval in truth, wild, to say the least. This shows how people are not used to thinking and how easy it is to justify ignorance with emotions. Only now, I will reveal the terrible secret of being, it’s harder for an emotional fool to live a hundred times harder than a calm sage.
      1. Militia
        Militia 8 December 2015 19: 53 New
        +1
        What does Russia and the IMF leadership have to do with it? Or is Russia a board member or a founder?
        Russia not only consists in the board of the organization, but also contributes its quota to the IMF.
        The quota of a member state determines the maximum amount of financial resources that a member state is required to provide to the IMF. Member States must pay their full contribution upon entry into the Fund: up to 25 percent must be paid in SDRs or in widely accepted currencies (such as the US dollar, euro, yen or pound sterling), the rest in the member’s own currency.
        In 2005-2008, the Russian government sent $ 1,2 billion to the IMF. Moreover, in 2013, Russia transferred 10 billion US dollars as a follow-up to the decision of the GXNUMX leaders to replenish the IMF resources.
        Read here for a general understanding of why the IMF is for Russia - http://www.banki.ru/news/daytheme/?id=7744335
    13. little girl15
      little girl15 8 December 2015 18: 52 New
      0
      inkass_98 (3) SU Today, 06:47 AM New
      Well, so why is the representative of Russia in the IMF? It is necessary either to block such decisions as far as possible, or to leave such organizations as useless. Does it mean to prolong the agony of one former country at the expense of our money with your own hands?

      Does Russia have a blocking stake in the IMF? It seems to me that it isn’t.
    14. SAXA.SHURA
      SAXA.SHURA 8 December 2015 20: 02 New
      0
      It’s not a fig to invest money in this fund, they’ll come in handy themselves, you just can’t be rags, so you should be blundered on all sides by everyone, we’re so cool from the rostrum and everyone’s clapping, and where’s the thing, and we’re again , even before such scum as YaytsenyuH.
    15. gladcu2
      gladcu2 8 December 2015 20: 28 New
      0
      inkas98

      Russia cannot leave the IMF system. Not for this RF integrated there.

      But to make the IMF work, as it should be. Like a bank that regulates the global economy.

      Now the GDP is working closely on this super task. And he does it. There is simply no other way out, otherwise the planet will be smashed.
    16. Pilot
      Pilot 8 December 2015 21: 04 New
      0
      Quote: inkass_98
      Well, why is the representative of Russia

      it is necessary to finish with them ...
    17. Sirgrey
      Sirgrey 8 December 2015 22: 47 New
      0
      Nevertheless, Ukraine has achieved its goal. Let it be bad at first, but the door to civilized Europe is already ajar
    18. max702
      max702 8 December 2015 22: 53 New
      +2
      According to rumors with the Fed, not everything is so simple, and our influence there should be at least the most important, and by and large the Fed practically belongs to us .. Check out the video, is it not clear as well as an interesting article about both the Fed and the recognition of the heirs to the throne of the Russian Empire ..http://webnovosti.info/новости/ротшильды-пытаются-при
      Russian-angry
      ot-nicholas-ii-georg-v /
    19. Serafim-k
      Serafim-k 10 December 2015 06: 26 New
      0
      Quote: inkass_98
      Well, why is the representative of Russia in the IMF? Sense with your own hands to prolong the agony of one former country at the expense of our money?

      Question and answer..!! wink
    20. Cherdak
      Cherdak 10 December 2015 16: 37 New
      0
      Quote: inkass_98
      Well, why is the representative of Russia in the IMF?

      SW Yuri

      recently accidentally came across such a Ukrainian couplet:

      "We made a Maidan,
      Vovan was in charge of Putin. "


      And you are the IMF, IMF. Who feeds the girl, he dances her. A explanation then you can invent any.

      My IMHO: The IMF urgently needs to take the Russian share and upload it to the BRICS New Development Bank. And let the IMF spin on itself.
  3. SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 8 December 2015 06: 53 New
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    Well then, we'll see further IMF fidgeting. Everything becomes clear as God's day: the rules - no rules to hell!
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 8 December 2015 07: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: Serge Boss
      Well then, we'll see further IMF fidgeting. Everything becomes clear as God's day: the rules - no rules to hell!


      It's a cool move - default is inevitable, which means we need to change the meaning of the concept of "default".
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 8 December 2015 08: 03 New
        +6
        Quote: iliitch
        default is inevitable, which means that we need to change the meaning of the concept of "default".

        If the process cannot be stopped, then it must be headed. smile
  4. Stoler
    Stoler 8 December 2015 06: 55 New
    15
    It's high time to send this to the IMF !!! Why do we need this "international" old woman pawnbroker, all the more so she got a nigga pimp! angry
    1. La-5
      La-5 8 December 2015 07: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: Stoler
      It's high time to send this to the IMF !!! Why do we need this "international" old woman pawnbroker, all the more so she got a nigga pimp! angry

      You just can’t send it, more than half of the world's economy is tied to the dollar.
  5. roman72-452
    roman72-452 8 December 2015 06: 56 New
    +7
    Another confirmation that bankers and the banking system are just scammers. We conclude that many have already done so.
  6. Jarilo
    Jarilo 8 December 2015 06: 57 New
    +7
    Is the IMF an international monetary fund? Who sets the rules, that and the foundation. We must call a spade a spade and we do not participate in such funds.
  7. izya top
    izya top 8 December 2015 07: 01 New
    +5
    "default = it's good" n.yareska laughing
    Westerners are afraid to admit that they crap one's pants from head to toe
  8. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 8 December 2015 07: 04 New
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    And for me, so let them try to give birth to a hedgehog against the grain. And the further there is talk about lending during the period of default, the more likely it is that Greece, Portugal and other larger debtors will come to the "hurray, no need to pay" principle. And then there will be the circus itself ... Especially against the background of explanations about the "exclusiveness" of nenki ... hi
  9. taycus
    taycus 8 December 2015 07: 06 New
    +4
    zombie economy, zombie apocalypse, what else will these inventors invent?
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 December 2015 07: 06 New
    +6
    IMF is ready to review the basic principles of the organization

    Everything is natural. I (the United States) created this organization, I set the rules and set and everyone is obliged to adhere to these rules. As I want, I turn over.
  11. Aleksander
    Aleksander 8 December 2015 07: 08 New
    +2
    Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the Russian Federation was ready to go for a restructuring option that even the International Monetary Fund itself did not ask for.

    This nice proposal looks especially wonderful against the backdrop of the terrorist attack of Ruins on the Russian Crimea. Theater of the absurd ....
  12. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 8 December 2015 07: 08 New
    +8
    If the IMF does not follow its own rules, then it would be logical to dissociate itself from it.
    It is time to enter the stage of a new international bank, which will deal with financial affairs, and not political affairs, of supporting and overthrowing acceptable and objectionable regimes.
  13. ILYA M
    ILYA M 8 December 2015 07: 09 New
    +2
    / The whole world system is rotten. And besides the big war, there are simply no other options. Thanks to GDP - trying to buy time so that at least a little bit be ready for the final chord.
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 8 December 2015 07: 13 New
    +1
    Hand in hand washes ...
  15. Zomanus
    Zomanus 8 December 2015 07: 24 New
    +4
    First you need to wait for a solution.
    Today, these changes will be discussed and
    tomorrow you can already talk on the fact of what is accepted.
    And I can say that there is not so simple.
    For such a decision destroys the IMF itself.
    Because they close the access of creditors to
    compensation for losses by state assets.
    And the Chinese are not asleep, yes ...
  16. askort154
    askort154 8 December 2015 07: 30 New
    +4
    The United States refused to take the guarantee, but gave the IMF a command to continue to feed Ukraine from a common boiler. We will have to knock out the payment through the court, and this is red tape. And Ukrainians have another holiday, Biden brought a handout - 260 million.
    1. Jarilo
      Jarilo 8 December 2015 07: 52 New
      +4
      Recently I saw an article by a Ukrainian analyst that America tamed the Ukrainian government, so it’s responsible for it, and what should the people do?
      1. orthodox71
        orthodox71 8 December 2015 09: 27 New
        +4
        This exupery analyst has been reading, and so, usually, tamed and bored and hopelessly sick people are euthanized so that they don’t run down the street and infect others
    2. orthodox71
      orthodox71 8 December 2015 09: 24 New
      +2
      I liked more that these grandmas will not get into the budget. They will probably be given in cash at the embassy to particularly distinguished reformers; most likely, the list already exists. It will be like with those five trained $ 500 million rebels.
    3. askort154
      askort154 8 December 2015 09: 53 New
      +3
      askort154 ..... And Ukrainians have another holiday, Biden brought a handout - 260 million.

      PS
      According to updated data, Biden promised to give Ukraine 190 lim.
      to fight corruption.
  17. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 December 2015 07: 30 New
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    Dill again save against all odds. And why not Russia refuse to pay debts? By corporate, since the state is simply insignificant. So, get together and issue a law - if there is no way to refinance a currency debt, then it is frozen until such an opportunity appears! And the truth is - why comply with the laws when legislators themselves easily change them?
  18. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 8 December 2015 07: 35 New
    +1
    Directly political necromancy.
  19. Balamyt
    Balamyt 8 December 2015 07: 37 New
    +4
    IMF, WTO, UN, UNESCO, etc, etc .......... Everywhere Americans are muddied by water. Mostly against Russia. It would be better for us to position ourselves in these unions.
    1. Garik444
      Garik444 8 December 2015 09: 13 New
      +4
      In all games in which p.n.do.s.stan participates, the rules can be changed during the game.
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  20. surrozh
    surrozh 8 December 2015 07: 37 New
    +3
    With regard to lending to Ukraine, Putin clearly stated that in the form of discounts on gas, electricity, non-collection of corporate debt and so on, we provided Ukraine with 32-33 billion over these two years. I didn’t understand how, according to Brzezinski, “at the expense of Russia, to create a Ukraine hostile to Russia,” turns out to be as easy as shelling pears. And now they just stopped supplying coal - immediately the Ukrainian light appeared in Crimea. Above, it is already clear that they have understood by what methods it is necessary to "convince non-brothers", and this is undoubtedly the correct course.
    1. anip
      anip 8 December 2015 09: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: surozh
      Putin clearly stated about lending to Ukraine - in the form of discounts on gas, electricity, non-collection of corporate debt, etc., we have provided Ukraine 32-33 billion over these two years.

      And the people of Russia all these years about the fascist Bandera regime in Ukraine have been striking, nabzhaya under the guise of all the necessary Bandera. All false through and through.

      Quote: surozh
      Above, it is already clear that they understood what methods should be used to "convince non-brothers"

      It came to the fourth day, like a duck.
      Only now it seems to me that they will still scratch about the "brotherly" people, justifying any preferences to Ukraine.
    2. orthodox71
      orthodox71 8 December 2015 09: 32 New
      +1
      Here I don’t understand: if they stopped loading coal and there was light, then coal was loaded for free. There’s no gas pumping without money, and the light, for some reason, doesn’t appear.
  21. Riv
    Riv 8 December 2015 07: 43 New
    +2
    Zombies, speak? I know. This is a Ukrainian of traditional orientation.
  22. Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 8 December 2015 07: 44 New
    +3
    It’s strange. If so, by analogy, let the banks also review their policies. I didn’t give a loan, and God be with him, a zombie pensioner, you still have one, but bring tomatoes from the garden and cucumbers every day to the bank to the lender for lunch. Car need-on, bring cabbage, etc. Nonsense.
  23. Teplohod
    Teplohod 8 December 2015 07: 48 New
    +4
    why are we participating in this fund then? I can’t comprehend these contradictions in any way, the foundation or another council is engaged and politicized, so to speak, promoting US policy, and we continue to attend and even sponsor them.
  24. Svarog5570
    Svarog5570 8 December 2015 07: 56 New
    +6
    while the great Ukrainians need America as a consumable, default does not threaten them, and therefore they come up with all sorts of schemes for avoiding reality.
  25. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 8 December 2015 08: 13 New
    +6
    And I am disappointed with the article, of course, thank you, Dear Alexei Volodin, for reminding me that there are two weeks left before the loan agreement, because there is no fresh or at least my own understanding of the problem in the article. But there is the 5th publication, over the past 30 days, repeating themselves, if not word for word, then with replacing the items. Interestingly, do they pay money for this?
    Somehow, colleagues, with all due respect to the author, I think that the information is empty and fed up with the order, telling absolutely nothing new to the readers. request hi
  26. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 8 December 2015 08: 39 New
    +2
    Well, actually, if the Europeans want to lend to the disastrous Ukrainian economy, they’re holding the flag.
    But Europeans need to know where their money is going.
  27. Pak_c_TonopoM
    Pak_c_TonopoM 8 December 2015 09: 00 New
    +1
    So, in response, we can leave the IMF and stop sending a coin there. Let the USA feed Ukraine from its budget. Either the blacks from Harlem will be delighted ...
  28. anip
    anip 8 December 2015 09: 09 New
    +5
    Everything is for one single purpose: to keep puppets in their seats so that they have the opportunity to advance the interests of their puppeteers.

    Just as it is said about the Russian Federation, about its government and the oligarchs.
  29. Garik444
    Garik444 8 December 2015 09: 11 New
    +2
    Quote: askort154
    Biden brought a handout - 260 million

    Payment for the work done.
  30. Boris55
    Boris55 8 December 2015 09: 17 New
    +6
    I recall the English proverb: "A gentleman is always right. If a gentleman is wrong, then he changes the rules.".
    It’s pointless to look for logic in the actions of a sharpie. It is necessary to draw conclusions.
  31. Egoza
    Egoza 8 December 2015 09: 24 New
    +3
    Encouraged by the US handout, Yaresko said that Ukraine would not repay the debt, because ...
    “We feel strong pressure on this issue from the people, who oppose the return of this debt,” Yaresko noted.
    Oh how! The people do not want to return, not the "government"
    1. Alexy
      Alexy 8 December 2015 11: 50 New
      +3
      These comrades always hide behind the "people". But where are these people ???
  32. Vadim12
    Vadim12 8 December 2015 09: 39 New
    +2
    Other economies will not even like this "special" attitude ... Take Greece, for example.
    1. Alexy
      Alexy 8 December 2015 12: 10 New
      0
      Biden or Kerry will come and everyone will immediately enjoy everything.
  33. Fat
    Fat 8 December 2015 09: 45 New
    +5
    don’t tell me laugh. What kind of popular anger in protoucria can happen. That’s why the population inhabits this country can only ride and sit down at the hooks. I don’t have any pity. I start to vomit when I hear about brothers or Slavs there for me protoukry. sale is a herd and will be while they are alive
  34. Isangrim
    Isangrim 8 December 2015 09: 49 New
    +4
    Russia would have been pulled apart for debts in such a situation ... Once again proves the policy of "DOUBLE STANDARDS" of the United States and its puppets.
  35. Milana
    Milana 8 December 2015 10: 10 New
    +4
    There will be no such "popular anger".
    In everything and always Russia will be to blame for them.
    And with the name of our President on their lips, they get up and go to bed.
    1. Askin
      Askin 8 December 2015 10: 24 New
      +5
      Quote: Milana
      There will be no such "popular anger".
      In everything and always Russia will be to blame for them.
      And with the name of our President on their lips, they get up and go to bed.

      The usual world practice is the search for an external enemy in order to distract people from their muddy deeds.
      They scare Putin, we have Obama, etc.
  36. Military Builder
    Military Builder 8 December 2015 10: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: Egoza
    We feel strong pressure on this issue from the people.

    Where does she feel this pressure?
  37. Support
    Support 8 December 2015 10: 25 New
    +1
    Is it they who stretch the concept of death to different stages or what? Death - she is or is or is not. And they come up with all sorts of different names .... IMF - workers of the World Morgue
    1. orthodox71
      orthodox71 8 December 2015 13: 49 New
      +1
      It happens clinical, i.e. you can still pump out, but this is not the case. The patient is more likely dead than alive
  38. Belousov
    Belousov 8 December 2015 10: 34 New
    +2
    The debt will not be returned, the rules will be rewritten, some special clause will be introduced about special circumstances (for example, about aggression, etc.) so that the Greeks, Portuguese and others cannot claim the cancellation of the debt. It is not necessary to be Vanga here. And we will go to bed again and will run around the courts tearfully belittling to return even a penny, instead of turning off the gas, electricity, introducing a normal visa entry and other "preferences" to the allegedly fraternal people. It is sad that our authorities are working not for the good of the people of Russia, but for the good ...
    1. Alexy
      Alexy 8 December 2015 11: 47 New
      +3
      I think you're right. But to turn on and off the gas, light, etc. I think not so simple.
  39. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 8 December 2015 10: 41 New
    +1
    The dollar exchange rate exceeded 70 rubles.
    - Yes, how did you get this garbage. Is there any fresh news about the tiger goat?
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    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 8 December 2015 11: 54 New
      +1
      Well, what for such images! eh ?, well, the cultural forum, ....

      You’re sitting there having breakfast, reading comments ...... thanks!
  41. biserino
    biserino 8 December 2015 11: 03 New
    +4
    I hope that the Ukrainian state will use part of the new funds to pay pensions to Novorussiya citizens 2 years ago, which stubbornly claimed that Ukrainians are full. AND? wink
  42. Alexy
    Alexy 8 December 2015 11: 42 New
    +3
    Ukraine is already scared of default and collapse since the Maidan. But it seems to me there will be neither one nor the other. Representatives of the so-called west have invested too much in it. And for them, as practice shows, the laws are not written, or are immediately rewritten. Therefore, in Kiev they behave arrogantly and arrogantly.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 8 December 2015 13: 17 New
      +1
      But it seems to me there will be neither one nor the other.


      Suddenly I’ll surprise: everything has already happened, it’s just that the situation was "frozen", but this will not last long ...
      A revision of the IMF policy for the sake of 3 green lard is a circus.
  43. thinker
    thinker 8 December 2015 12: 34 New
    +1
    There is no need to wait until the twentieth, everything will be clear today. The "magicians" have already prepared a term for Russia - a disloyal creditor.
    A new entry appeared on the IMF's official website in the schedule of board meetings: "Reforming the Fund's Policy on Non-Toleration of Arrears to Official Creditors", which can be translated as "reforming the fund's policy on debt to disloyal official creditors."
    Discussion of the topic is scheduled for December 8, 2015.

    http://lifenews.ru/news/174029
    1. orthodox71
      orthodox71 8 December 2015 14: 00 New
      +1
      The article also says that Vovyan withdrew such a definition from Russia with his proposal, now the disloyal IMF is forced to invent a new term or look for a new definition of the term "default" shield, and leave the rest where they are. But life will not stop there, and people like Ukrainians will appear, or the situation will be adjusted to fit this definition. Then they will have to say that this is a completely different matter, not like the Ukrainians. In general: on a cola baked, start sleeping
  44. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 8 December 2015 13: 41 New
    +3
    It is very good that the IMF is redrawing its rules. We are not alone in seeing everything; everything will be unfolded for the West.
  45. Kibl
    Kibl 8 December 2015 13: 42 New
    +6
    Oh byad !!! Yes, the IMF is on the drum, this or that country is able to pay its debts. The fund only in its name hints at some kind of money transactions, actually a political union under a beautiful sign. What kind of money, what currency, I beg of you!!!
  46. iouris
    iouris 8 December 2015 13: 44 New
    +2
    In fact, we have left the WTO. Give way out of the IMF!
  47. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 8 December 2015 13: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: inkass_98
    We must either block such decisions

    In Russia, the share in the IMF, as far as is known, is only 2,4%. China has 6,7%. The United States with its vassals - 47%. So it will be very difficult for Russia to advance its position.
  48. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 8 December 2015 14: 04 New
    +1
    For Russia, it’s the best option, provided that there are no provocations on the part of Ukraine, so that all their ideas are rotten in the bud. Already they don’t shout about a happy life in the association, they will beat in the face soon, then it’s time for Russia! some dirty trick for us.
  49. potalevl
    potalevl 8 December 2015 14: 32 New
    +4
    I do not want to be annoying, but I repeat again. While Satan will rule the ball on our globe, in the person of the US Federal Reserve, there will be wars, lawlessness and other world tricks. And all this only for the sake of gaining a handful of frantic renegades.
    A little digression into history. In 1913, the US created the Fed (Federal Reserve System) over the control and management of the country's economy. The Fed includes 12 Federal Reserve Banks, while the actual owners of these banks are private individuals. And in the hands of these persons, the state authorities give the machine for printing money. Moreover, the dollar is not a state monetary unit. US authorities purchase these dollars from the Fed at interest on government debt. But this is not enough, it is necessary that other countries recognize this money. And what is needed for this? We need a big war, which requires a lot of money. And the Fed has them, and here is 1914, the 1st World War. And everything would be fine, but here on the world stage a new political and economic system in the person of the USSR appears. And these systems proved that it is more effective than capitalism (industrial and economic growth in the 30s in the USSR and economic recession, the great depression, in the USA). And to eliminate a competitor and receive dividends, what is needed? That's right, a big war. And here is 1939 2nd World War. But, no matter how hard our sworn friends tried, the competitor survived, and not only survived, but also won the 2nd World War, and not only won, but also called into question the very existence of capitalism in the world. Therefore, sworn friends at first had to adapt to the situation. To create more comfortable conditions for the existence of working people in their countries, to go for the creation of the UN in 1945. In 1947, sworn friends convinced the world community of the need to create an international monetary fund (IMF) at the UN, with good intentions. But as you know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and in our case for some reason no one was outraged by the fact that the dollar became the main world reserve currency, that is, the monetary unit is not state. That's how the Fed gradually tamed the world to a green piece of paper, and when in 1972 they refused to tie the dollar to the gold equivalent, they completely untied their hands and print the paper as much as you like. The French really were a little indignant, but that was where it ended. The UN and the IMF are doggie dogs at the Fed, even if they’re sitting in Washington. And you UN-IMF, down with double standards. They wanted to spit all over the world, especially after the Soviet Union collapsed.
    And today, all attempts to abandon the dollar lead to what? That's right, to a big war. That’s the kind of thing you know.
    1. 15ghost10
      15ghost10 8 December 2015 17: 03 New
      +1
      From me, plus. I also think everything goes to the Great War. Ukraine is already at a low start in the East. The situation with Turkey and Iraq. In Poland and the Baltic countries, an inconspicuous ... amount of technology is pulled together by NATO. I think that they will immediately begin on several fronts. Ukrovermarcht was also pulled up to Transnistria.
  50. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 8 December 2015 15: 26 New
    0
    and what do the citizens of the country say? how should they be? also become zombies? Zombie economy. Zombie people. zombie government. Bacilli in the body need food. Eat something, then zombies ??? even though zombies are not zombies, but you always want to eat.
    1. orthodox71
      orthodox71 8 December 2015 15: 56 New
      +1
      Usually zombies bite alive, well, in the movies. This, probably, will also leave nothing to stick to the neighbors, who to whom: someone to Russia, someone to Poland, someone else what