Ankara intends to place on the Syrian border the air defense system of European production

Turkey is negotiating with the French-Italian consortium Eurosam to purchase SAMP / T medium-range air defense systems, which are supposed to be located on the border with Syria, reports Look with reference to the newspaper "Aksham".

According to the newspaper, "representatives of the Turkish Air Force and the Department of Defense Industry visited the consortium's enterprises in France and Italy last week, looked at the tests of SAMP / T missiles and informed the government about positive impressions."

Now, "in order to advance the negotiations, representatives of the Franco-Italian consortium will visit Ankara in the coming days," writes Aksham.

At the center of the negotiations are two questions: “the transfer of technology to Turkey and the supply of ready-made batteries for their deployment on the border with Syria”.

“If an agreement is reached, the process of acquiring air defense missile systems will be launched. Immediately after the signing of the agreement, the temporary batteries (already existing consortium) together with the technical staff will be sent to Turkey and placed in those areas on the border with Syria, which will be determined by the Turkish armed forces. Temporary batteries will be in Turkey before the supply of contract-based systems to Ankara, ”the newspaper informed.

I expressed a desire to help Turkey and the North Atlantic bloc. Jens Stoltenberg sympathized with the Turkish allies, who "suffered more than others because of the crisis in the Middle East."

“NATO will contribute to the improvement of the Turkish air defense. We had a military presence (in Turkey) before the incident with the Russian plane on the border with Syria. Before Christmas, we will take a package of measures for Turkey, ”the Alliance Secretary General said.

Comments

[Vladimirets]

watched SAMP / T ballistic missile tests

What rockets?

[vkl-47]

our planes will be shot down insolently. and ours will be chewed. always all through one place

[attuda]

... and ours will be able to chew.

Nowhere. Niliberalist ...



Victory will always be ours, ours!

[Denis Obukhov]

Quote: attuda

... and ours will be able to chew.

Nowhere. Niliberalist ...



Victory will always be ours, ours!

Everyone has long understood everything. The USA is the main puppeteer, and the rest are only its henchmen

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

SAMP / T medium-range air defense systems

Performance characteristics SAMPS / T:
Air defense - the middle hand, and also modern.
The range of destruction of air targets:
- airplanes - 3-100 km.
- ballistic missiles - 3-35 km.
The height of the destruction of air targets - up to 25 km.
The detection range of targets such as TBR - 600 km.
The number of missiles on PU - 8
The number of simultaneously aimed at the target Zour - 10.
The maximum flight speed of the missile attack system is 1400 m / s.
The average flight speed of missiles - 900-1000 m / s.
Maximum overload of missiles: at altitude H = 15 km - 15g, with altitude H = 0 - 60g.
Starting mass of missiles - 510 kg.
Mass of the missile warhead - 15-20 kg.

Theoretical, can cause problems. And practical - everything is at the mercy of the skill of military experts, pilots, and the perfection of electronic warfare systems.

P.S. here is interesting material on VO http://topwar.ru/32286-evropeyskiy-zrk-samp-t.html

[Vadim237]

For Turkey, these points have not been painful for a long time - the trade turnover between Turkey and Russia is 31 billion dollars, with an annual GDP of Turkey of about 800 billion, which is only 4% of their GDP, and we can say with great confidence that our measures , they will find new suppliers of grain, energy and new markets for vegetables and their food products.

[BABA SHURA]

Ours has no one to shoot down, they don’t fly ...

[Asadullah]

our planes will be shot down insolently. and ours will be chewed. always all through one place

Whose will you be? And who are yours? I am explaining, in essence, the issues in the West, and in Russian liberal circles, a new trend - trolling on the topic of Putin's exchange of a combat aircraft for oranges. All well-known media persons have entered this field. In the comments of the Western media, the same story. I look at what kind of ossified rusan-hater on the ip, the same comments, word for word on several dozen more resources. So, I have the honor to inform you, just in case, "your planes"They will indeed shoot down, if our planes are threatened. Without lengthy approvals and Chinese warnings.

[Vadim237]

And you doubt ours - how you lived and will live. how they lived when Ukrainian troops fired on our border territory in 2014 - then two servicemen were killed and my grandfather in his yard was killed by a Grad shell.

[Denis Obukhov]

This is what fuel trucks with oil ig did not fly?

[Denis Obukhov]

The Eurosam consortium was given a rare chance to bargain with the Turks and tear off a double price tag, and in addition to add a diaper car ...

[APASUS]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

The Eurosam consortium was given a rare chance to bargain with the Turks and tear off a double price tag, and in addition to add a diaper car ...

In this situation, Eurosam no longer decides whether Turkey will have rockets. After the scandals that appear every day, Europeans may simply not want to deal with Turkey, even for money. At that time, Erdogan chose for such a serious sale.

[kitamo]

Quote: Vladimirets

watched SAMP / T ballistic missile tests

What rockets?

Yeah ... I'm also interested * what kind of missiles? *

[Tor5]

What is an incident ... so anti-aircraft missile system, or ballistic missiles? Author, ay!

[kit-kat]

What do not you understand? Intercontinental ballistic missiles SAM .

[oldseaman1957]

] Ankara intends to place European-made air defense systems on the Syrian border] - Finally, there will be a legal opportunity to show the complete superiority of Russian technology.

[Orang]

Quote: oldseaman1957

Finally, there will be a legal opportunity to show the complete superiority of Russian technology.

Don't say gop until you jumped over.

[Black Colonel]

I myself oh-x-xxx ... was surprised at such a combination. +

[thinker]

The SAMP / T SAM system (in the French Air Force it has the designation “Mamba”) is able to conduct 360-degree circular firing, has a modular design and highly maneuverable missiles that can destroy any air target. This complex is already in service in France and Italy and is an important contribution of these two states to the formation of a single NATO missile defense system, which Designed to intercept ballistic missiles in Europe.

http://topwar.ru/32286-evropeyskiy-zrk-samp-t.html

[Vita vko]

Obviously these. But they are definitely not ballistic.

As a means of destruction in the SAMP-T air defense missile system, a two-stage missile "Aster-30" is used (see diagram) An active radar seeker is installed on the missile, operating in the frequency range 10-20 GHz. It is a modification of the homing head of the MICA air-to-air missile. The diameter of the seeker is 0.18 m, the length (including the block of electronic guidance equipment) is 0.6 m. The missile is guided to the target for most of its flight trajectory by the command-inertial system, and homing using information received from the seeker occurs only in the final section. In this case, it is envisaged that the search and capture of the target by the head is carried out in the flight of the rocket.

Target detection range up to 80km. The number of simultaneously detected targets is up to 130, the number of simultaneously tracked targets is 10. the number of simultaneously fired is 1

Even if it is possible to quickly adjust the frequency from pulse to pulse, I am sure this will not become a problem for the Khibin EW complex, I hope they will soon experience it.

[GSH-18]

Two questions are at the center of negotiations: “transfer of technology to Turkey and supply of finished batteries for their deployment on the border with Syria”

Monkey with a grenade. Everyone knows how this story ended.

[cniza]

“NATO will contribute to the improvement of the Turkish air defense. We had a military presence (in Turkey) before the incident with the Russian plane on the border with Syria. Before Christmas, we will take a package of measures for Turkey, ”the Alliance Secretary General said.

Fuss, fuss will not help, NATO can not save face and do not know how to wash, this will never be forgiven.

[dchegrinec]

Poor Turks! Everyone wants to upset their airspace! Help everyone who can? And of course there were a dozen of the kindest countries! A very touching story, I really want to laugh. The West simply forgot that there is such a word-decency!

[cniza]

Quote: dchegrinec

The West simply forgot that there is such a word-decency!

They never knew him, only profit and business and cold in the soul.

[Black Colonel]

there is such a word-decency!
What is it like?

[kil 31]

Some kind of arms race. Everyone understands that we will not shoot down Turkish planes from air defense systems, and after the incident they will not shoot down. Why would they rattle their weapons?

[kolyhalovs]

And what's the point of placing them on the border?

[Scoun]

Quote: kolyhalovs

And what's the point of placing them on the border?

It seems that with the "sudden" movement of Turkish tanks a little further into Syria to "protect" the Turkmens, the air defense has already covered from possible strikes by the Syrian Air Force and possible strikes by the Russian Aerospace Forces, I think if the S-400 comes closer, it will start to see aircraft, let's say with incirlik ... I will not like it very much .. in general, as always, it remains for us simple to guess and wait and hope that the words of GDP will be fulfilled.

President of the Russian Federation:
Our actions are based on responsibility to the country and people.

words

We won’t rattle with weapons, but if they think that they will get off with tomatoes and restrictions in the construction industry, then they are wrong.

and words

We will remind you more than once, and they will regret more than once! We know what to do!

then we can be calm.

[Gandelman]

o5 our plane will be shot down ... and we will ban peaches

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Gandelman

our plane will be shot down

Whose is this?

[barclay]

. Jens Stoltenberg sympathized with the Turkish allies, who "suffered more than others from the crisis in the Middle East."
Ha ha two times! Turkey suffered?!?!?!
Yes, Turkey skimmed the cream off this crisis. Turkey will soon "crack its face" from this "crisis".

[soroKING]

And I liked the pallet in the photo, fry the meat ...

[slaw14]

Yes, I have such an appetite. I'm already in the old fashion - a frying pan. It’s even a shame.

[Denis Obukhov]

Ballistic SMP / T, 150 km, temporarily with staff ... uh ... So the Turks didn’t deploy themselves on them?) As a result, France and Italy will place a contraption on the border with Syria.
And it will be the northeast of Syria, where 98 km of the border walk the field. There, 50 US special forces previously went for a walk. Predictable. Oil is necessary, oh how it is. That's just the corner with Racca and Mosul.
In, boots.

[raid14]

Whoever is scared is half defeated! A.V. Suvorov
In Turkish damgalı Pasha "Topal Pasha".

[Igluxnumx]

This cannot be anything other than a provocation. SAM on the Syrian-Turkish border? And what, someone threatened Turkey, flew into its territory, maybe even bombed? No? Then what is it if not a loud cry "stop the thief!"? And who's screaming? Ah, I got it! This is such an involuntary recognition of Turkey! And also fear.

[Black Colonel]

In general, Turkey is a sovereign state and has the right to install any weapons on its territory. On the other hand, HOW it is presented, especially after well-known events. But there is a reason and an opportunity to work with our electronic warfare against the busurman air defense radars. At the same time, the Kh-25MP can "accidentally" fly to visit them, because they, the Busurman air defense radars, have air conditioners working very hard.

[lopvlad]

Turkey is negotiating with the Franco-Italian consortium Eurosam on the purchase of SAMP / T medium-range air defense systems, which are supposed to be placed on the border with Syria

the Russian media are not watching carefully. The information slipped through them that the S-400 could, if necessary, work on land and sea targets. That is, if necessary, the S-400 could hit the ground.

[kitamo]

those. The Turks are now afraid to fly into Syria on planes, and decided to deliver an air defense system to shoot down our planes over Syria from it?
in my opinion, this air defense system is a danger to our aerospace forces ... there it seems like they said something about representing a danger ...

[acad.elc]

our planes will be shot down insolently. and ours will be chewed. always all through one place

It will be possible to saddle Caliber for each such installation, for every shot down our airplane. Well, and then to the negotiating table ... :)

[Orang]

Quote: akad.elc

It will be possible to saddle and Caliber for each such installation, for each shot down our plane

Yes, they didn’t sadanuli somehow. Pu frowned, muttered sternly, as usual, and that’s all. And the Sultan-Erdogan said bluntly that they would bring down a Turkish plane in Syria, we will answer. And the scoundrel will answer.

[avva2012]

akad.elc SU Today, 14: 52 Our brothers are Bulbash! Why did you lie under the Kremlin ?! :(

Orang, and, here it is, you quote, and even answer?

[acad.elc]

avva2012
What bothers you?

[acad.elc]

Yes, but he was shot down by a fighter, not by an air defense system. It can be assumed that this is the first and last time. And the fact that there the fart says it is a chatter in the hope of NATO support.

[Black Colonel]

It will be possible to saddle and Caliber for each such installation
Caliber - bold, X-25MP just right.

[acad.elc]

Caliber - bold, X-25MP just right

This is an air-to-ground class. Why is this necessary when you can get out of your territory without risking losing planes ... Avaricious pays twice :)

[avva2012]

Before Iran can officially send troops into Syria (or Turkey), they need to conclude an agreement with a nuclear power, that is, with us. Moreover, the agreement should have approximately the following wording: "when a third party attacks one of the contracting parties, the other party provides all-round assistance, including military assistance." Iran to he was perceived, as a full-fledged player, must have someone behind him who has nuclear authority. Of course, we still have to realize that we have authority, and are ready to threaten to use it, in which case. I would like to think that recently it seems that everything is going to that.

[JonnyT]

for the Turks there is no longer the concept of the Syrian border. They can place them, including on the territory of Syria or Iraq, which is under the control of the Daesh, and I myself will be singing fables about the presence of air defense systems on the border or on agreements with the Kurds or the opposition.

[vezunchik]

The Syrian Foreign Ministry sent a letter to the UN Secretary General and the head of the Security Council because of the blows of the US-led international coalition against the Syrian military. Damascus called them an act of aggression, specifying that the target was a military camp.

[Mountain shooter]

Is this a concern that has a full-fledged air defense system IN STOCK? Well, I will never believe it! Such systems are made to order only. This is not MANPADS. Therefore, most likely, dummies with imitation of violent activity will be installed.

[NordUral]

I looked at it, recalled ours, and I offer in response that it would not be sad.
http://rosoboronpostavka.ru/3366699/ думаю, что в 2016 пойдут в серию.

I expressed a desire to help Turkey and the North Atlantic bloc. Jens Stoltenberg sympathized with the Turkish allies, who "suffered more than others because of the crisis in the Middle East."

Yeah, sufferers.

S-350E "Vityaz" - medium-range anti-aircraft missile system

[MolGro]

also a new beech

[vezunchik]

Recall that according to local sources on Sunday, more than 60 Russian paratroopers arrived in Homs to advise and monitor the actions of the SAA, which plans to release Palmyra.

[olimpiada15]

Place on the border with Syria air defense systems ...
Which direction should the air defense systems be directed to? If for the fight against terrorists, then from the side of Turkey, so as not to let Turkish terrorists into Syria.

[2014ya.ru]

I don’t understand why France wants to sell Turkey’s air defense systems if it is our ally today, someone will explain?

[-Traveler-]

so we and Turkey a month ago was an "ally"

[scrap123]

honestly I don’t want to swear but there I don’t understand whose X ..., in whose F ...

[31R-US]

the main thing is not in our

[mvg]

50 American commandos

[yuriy55]

A lot of all sorts of different who are also looking for something ...

[voyaka uh]

SAMP / T - short and medium range air defense / missile defense system
Actions: from 50 m to 30 km.
Actually more ship system.
The rocket looks like this:

[SCHNIFER]

The Eurosam consortium was given a rare chance to bargain with the Turks and break the double price tag, in addition to add the diapers car to the Turks and one hundred percent localization of their production in Turkey and even euro shit for diapers ...

[Idunavs]

Quote: 2014ya.ru

I don’t understand why France wants to sell Turkey’s air defense systems if it is our ally today, someone will explain?

France is not yet our ally, and may not become one.

[2014ya.ru]

In Paris, their fellow citizens were killed, and they are going to sell air defense systems to the same terrorists, is this not a betrayal of their people !?

[wicked pinnochio]

asha country terrorist number one they need to be bombed

[fax66]

History repeats itself: Europe (now + the USA) is pushing Turkey to war with Russia ... just like a couple of centuries ago ...
Only no one wants to remember how all the wars against Russia ended.
Hooks ...

[yuriy55]

Only no one wants to remember how all the wars against Russia ended.

Forgot that not worth it tease Russian Bear. Nothing helps here: neither SAMP / T nor Sealex ...

[yuriy55]

Rise Tsargradom, on the road
They met ...
Turok was in great alarm,
Having survived the bad days ...

And our glorious Russian warrior,
Good natured and calm
Coming the longest way
I sat down for a little rest ...

A conversation ensued here:
“Do you win again?”
The warrior Turk asked -
Where did you get so much power? .. "

- Eh, buddy, even though you are a Turk
And by the look of a very bastard,
But about the mind, that ...
Seen, absolutely nothing! ..

The power of mine to eat with your head
Never count, -
And with the Turkish hand
You can’t reach me either.

Many different strangers
Beat and I will beat again.
Kolotil avstrіytsev, Germans,
On you ... sneeze.

M. Petrov

[voyaka uh]

The basis of Turkey's air defense is the American Hawk medium
range. They are outdated already, but workable.
If the Turks didn’t show off and drag out with endless tenders,
it could well have bought a simple Patriot (PAK-2 is enough).
To deal with high flying aircraft. Its radar cuts well and subtle UAVs on
high altitude. Recently checked in Israel.
Such a range as that of the S-400 is 200-300 km to the Turks and is not necessary for tactical air defense.

[iouris]

NATO only understands when their forces are threatened. Turkey is NATO. I think there will be "research" launches of missiles at our aircraft and bombing of the SAR army "by mistake." The US aircraft carrier is on duty in Split for a reason. A "Caribbean crisis" is needed to defuse the situation.
The goal is to capture the sources of oil that bomb the aerospace forces. Part of the Kurds producing oil, it seems, joined the US coalition, so the Syrian troops in eastern Syria are bombing.

[soroKING]

Quote: slaw14

Yes, I have such an appetite. I'm already in the old fashion - a frying pan. It’s even a shame.

I’m not myself ... you can feed a company

[Vadim237]

But Turkey and the air defense missile systems begin to buy, soon the PAC 3 Patriots will start purchasing, and after them the missile defense will be pulled up in the form of the THHAD air defense systems.

[Max_Bauder]

The "game" is getting more and more interesting.

[-Traveler-]

let's hope that the game does not reach

[series]

What's the point? If our jammers on dryers crush their air defense ...

[Zomanus]

Well, KRET, now your way out.)))
There will be something to debug our systems
suppression of this and that.
And then fig ... and a bubble in the form of .ope
over the whole Mediterranean.
And our business is not to slow down the destruction of fuel trucks.

[press officer]

"will be sent to Turkey and deployed in those areas on the border with Syria, which are determined by the Turkish armed forces." [/ quote]
What?

Turks themselves will determine the border with Syria? Have you come up with new rules?
A Stopenberg creature as I look ...

Nude .. nude ... brave pugs .. we have here the last tourists from Turkey returned yesterday ....