Why does Qatar buy Soviet-style aerial bombs from Ukraine?

The well-known group of hackers CyberBerkut publishes material, which says about the sale by Ukraine of Soviet air bombs in a state like Qatar. Representatives CyberBerkut report that the Ukrainian company SpetsTekhnoExport (part of Ukroboronprom) contacts the Polish Level 11 to implement certain types of weapons and ammunition to foreign "partners". One of these partners, according to the publication, was Qatar, who, despite the security of this state, suddenly became interested in the Soviet-style bombs.

Through the offshore structure "Blessway Ltd" in Cyprus, Ukraine leads the delivery of Soviet air bombs to the customer, which is the Qatar Ministry of Defense. The CyberBerkut asks a reasonable question: why did Qatar need Soviet aerial bombs if it has Western-made airplanes, including French multi-role fighters. Moreover, Qatar acquires this kind of ammunition (old OFAB) at the price of 700 dollars apiece, which is higher than the market value.

Fragment of publication on CyberBerkut site:

It is worth noting that the high-explosive fragmentation bomb is not at all necessary to be dropped from the aircraft - it can be undermined on the ground, if there is such a need. This means that the option that these munitions can surprisingly end up in Syria and explode in some lively place in order to accuse Russia of bombing the civilian population cannot be ruled out.

In any case, non-transparent deliveries of Ukrainian weapons through front companies and offshore to Middle Eastern countries, taking into account the current difficult situation in the world, are extremely untimely and short-sighted. But as they say, to whom is war, and to whom is my mother.

At the same time, representatives of the CyberBerkut say that the Soviet-made deliveries of Soviet-made air bombs by the Ukrainian company became known from the correspondence of the head of the above-mentioned Polish company "Level 11" with Ukrainian partners.

Comments

[Sasha 19871987]

Ukrainians want to plant a pig ... when a pig in power, a calm life, you can’t see anyone

[Ruslan]

They want to substitute Russia. bombed by Assad or the Turks and drain us.

[figwam]

We are waiting for a provocation from terrorist countries. (UKRAINE, QATAR, TURKEY, SAUDI ARABIA)

[cniza]

Quote: figvam

We are waiting for a provocation from terrorist countries.

It’s better to work ahead of schedule, but how? ...

[mav1971]

Quote: cniza

Quote: figvam

We are waiting for a provocation from terrorist countries.

It’s better to work ahead of schedule, but how? ...

Level 11 executives must suddenly overeat of improper food and die suddenly.
The managers of this transaction and the owner of the company at least.
The double-bottomed arms trade is very dangerous and must have a poisonous connotation of life. :)

[BARKHAN]

It's very simple ... To summon the ambassador to the carpet and demand an official explanation. Lavrov to voice our "concerns" at a press conference in front of foreign journalists. In general, raise a big fuss ... let them justify themselves.
Once they have recently wiped themselves off after spitting in the face from these dwarfs ... Remember how there our ambassador was led in the face on the ground?
But if the ship carrying this cargo would fly into the air in the middle of the sea, it would be a worthy answer. For it’s not necessary to sponsor terrorists.

[Koshak]

Quote: Barkhan

Very simple ... Call the ambassador on the carpet and demand official explanations.

Well, what can they show? One state (Qatar) buys weapons from another state (Ukraine). Do not dig in, everything is legal. Now, if Ukrainians traded directly with ISIS, then it would still be possible to raise questions in the UN, OSCE and other rotten organizations, and it would not be a good idea. Turks are trading open with barmales. Well, where are all these UNs and other husks?

[APASUS]

Quote: cniza

Quote: figvam

We are waiting for a provocation from terrorist countries.

It’s better to work ahead of schedule, but how? ...

It just needs to be voiced at the highest level and ask questions through the Western media.

[S_last]

Suppose they want to plant a pig. But why buy old Soviet bombs for this? Why not use new, modern ones for a pig?

Here is the news of mid-2014.

The general director of Rosoboronexport, Anatoly Isaikin, says the company has signed major contracts for the supply of arms to countries in the Middle East and Africa. In particular, we are talking about large-scale deliveries of Russian weapons to Bahrain, Namibia, Nigeria, Djibouti, Tanzania, Kenya, Ethiopia, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. It is reported by ITAR-TASS.

[Corsair]

Quote: S_last

Suppose they want to plant a pig. But why buy old Soviet bombs for this? Why not use new, modern ones for a pig?

As I understand it, modern ones are more marvelous than the old ones, in the sense of the number there are various details and it is easy to calculate from them when and to whom this or that weapon was sold. Perhaps it’s harder to do on old ones.

[Lelek]

Quote: Corsair

Perhaps it’s harder to do on old ones.

Firstly, they are "marked", and secondly (IMHO) these bombs and shells are not intended for direct use, but for the production of terrorist attacks, after which no one will look for marking. In addition, YESH, retreating mines everything that is possible, so here the expired shells will come in handy.

[Corsair]

Quote: Lelek

In addition, you give, while retreating, mining everything that is possible, and here expired shells come in handy

The scorched earth principle? The favorite method of the USA.

[jaroff]

Because our aviation group in Syria mainly uses these OFAB-250-270s. Simple, old, even from Soviet stocks. It is this type of ammunition that is most convenient to use in provocation.

[jjj]

Ukrainian "ensigns" with big stars manage to sell everything that is still there before the fall of the state as such

[Wild_grey_wolf]

Quote: Sasha 19871987

Ukrainians want to plant a pig ... when a pig in power, a calm life, you can’t see anyone

Selling, no conscience at all. Oh, you didn’t choose the right side.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf

Selling, no conscience at all. Oh, you didn’t choose the right side.

Yes, God forbid, if HERE THESE HERE began to be smeared with us! And our strategists would have been led, yo.
And as for the Soviet bombs, it was just mentioned yesterday in the news that the Shaitans in Libya had captured some Soviet planes from Gaddafi and were going to prepare kamikaze. Yes, what is it, some kind of stinky bugs like Qatar with kakaly stir up water. It's time to deal with them, like with bugs. If what they are doing is not aiding terrorists, then I don’t know.

[cap]

The idea of ​​Kamikadze is just a class, write something with Russian passports and Russian bombs. Delete immediately on you dumped

[iliitchitch]

Quote: cap

The idea with Kamikadze is just a class yet write that with Russian passports and Russian bombs. Remove immediately they will dump you

Damn, did not have time to delete. But these "divine winds" (translation of kamikaze from Nippon) can really turn up with our passports. The only difference from the original is a ritual joint before the flight instead of a cup of sake.

[vovanpain]

So, one cannot rule out the possibility that these ammunition can surprisingly end up in Syria and explode in some busy place in order to then accuse Russia of bombing civilians.

The explosion of the Airbus "KogalymAvia" ends in Qatar, the Qatar Air Force consists of French Rafals and F-16s, these bombs cannot be crammed there, but you should expect meanness from Qatar and Khokhlostan, and not necessarily in Syria.

[Good me]

Fragment of publication on CyberBerkut site:
It is worth noting that the high-explosive fragmentation bomb is not at all necessary to be dropped from the aircraft - it can be undermined on the ground, if there is such a need. This means that the option that these munitions can surprisingly end up in Syria and explode in some lively place in order to accuse Russia of bombing the civilian population cannot be ruled out.

If the fact of the transaction is confirmed, it is unlikely that Qatar would buy air bombs in Ukraine for terrorist attacks. Much easier to do this from the warehouses of the army of the former Libyan Jamahiriya, there are the same bombs ...

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Good Me

If the fact of the transaction is confirmed, it is unlikely that Qatar would buy air bombs in Ukraine for terrorist attacks. Much easier to do this from the warehouses of the army of the former Libyan Jamahiriya, there are the same bombs ...

The same colleague is somewhat surprised by the article. Especially in the document is the number of 2000 pieces. As for terrorist attacks and provocations too much. I can of course be mistaken, but something does not converge.

[Finches]

I think that everything is simpler - Ukraine sells Soviet-style bombs so that some of the junta enriches themselves, and Qatar buys bombs in the shadow of the bomb to support their brothers from the Islamic State, and also saves on that!
As is customary to write in such cases - business, nothing personal!

[Good me]

Quote: Finches

I think that everything is simpler - Ukraine sells Soviet-style bombs so that some of the junta enriches themselves, and Qatar buys bombs in the shadow of the bomb to support their brothers from the Islamic State, and also saves on that!
As is customary to write in such cases - business, nothing personal!

Everything would "fit" if not for this:

Little of, Qatar acquires this kind of ammunition (old OFAB) at a price of 700 dollars apiece, which is higher than the market value.

It seems to me that 250 kg of conventional industrial explosives cost significantly less ...

[vladimir_krm]

http://piligrim04.livejournal.com/1837352.html

[Denis Obukhov]

Quote: Finches

I think that everything is simpler - Ukraine sells Soviet-style bombs so that some of the junta enriches themselves, and Qatar buys bombs in the shadow of the bomb to support their brothers from the Islamic State, and also saves on that!
As is customary to write in such cases - business, nothing personal!

Ukraine today is a solid supermarket

[Tor5]

so it is - they are preparing a setup so that later they can shout to the whole world - these are Russians !!

[cniza]

Quote: Tor5

so it is - they are preparing a setup so that later they can shout to the whole world - these are Russians !!

It's time to work ahead of the curve.

[shalim]

Quote: cniza

Quote: Tor5

so it is - they are preparing a setup so that later they can shout to the whole world - these are Russians !!

It's time to work ahead of the curve.

I COMPLETELY AGREE!!!

[kodxnumx]

Yes, a couple already have to command our specialists to blow up warehouses with NZ and the remnants from the time of the USSR armaments in Ukraine, so many people can die because of a bunch of criminals!

[Denis Obukhov]

I believe our special services and military intelligence should understand that the continuation of the operation on our contingent in Syria is being prepared. But not by plane, but by the airport (moms) ... training pilots in Libya, bombs from Ukraine, distracting maneuvers of Turkey in Iraq, erroneous supposedly airstrikes on Syrian army facilities ... The Euro-American coalition decided to test our missile defense systems and VKS ability, but with DAISH hands ...

[Denis Obukhov]

And it will be fun if they rush in Qatar. the bombs are old, hell knows what could be with them

[Ros 56]

Similarly, besides, they don’t know how to handle old weapons

[Skifotavr]

Quote: Sasha 19871987

Ukrainians want to plant a pig ... when a pig in power, a calm life, you can’t see anyone

There are no Ukrainians in power in Ukraine - that’s why the hellish system works like a clock.

[cniza]

It is worth noting that the high-explosive fragmentation bomb is not at all necessary to be dropped from the aircraft - it can be undermined on the ground, if there is such a need. This means that the option that these munitions can surprisingly end up in Syria and explode in some lively place in order to accuse Russia of bombing the civilian population cannot be ruled out.

Such an option is also possible; otherwise why do they need junk.

[Penetrator]

It seems that soon we will remember: "Oh, what a rich emirate of Qatar was! But harmful, bastard"

[flyer]

Definitely for provocations ... It all depends on the imagination of customers

[Decathlon]

She might even smell in Turkey, near some military base! And this is war! And, the Qatari nerds, if they plan, in this case, to hide behind a dune, they are greatly mistaken ...!

[cniza]

Quote: Decathlon

She might even smell in Turkey, near some military base! And this is war! And, the Qatari nerds, if they plan, in this case, to hide behind a dune, they are greatly mistaken ...!

In such a crush, which is now in Syria, a very possible option.

[Tatyana]

Decathlon (3)
She might even smell in Turkey, near some military base! And this is war! And, the Qatari nerds, if they plan, in this case, to hide behind a dune, they are greatly mistaken ...!

It has already been written that Qatar is a small country in terms of territory. And while almost all of its territory is occupied by the US military base. If you shoot in Qatar (in a place without a US base), you will almost certainly get to the US base. Therefore, Qatar is impudent.

[sober]

these can be given to partners, well, but they will again throw in the wrong place, and write off to Russia. Everything, as always in a circle.

[moskowit]

Correctly. Somewhere ammunition with Soviet markings will be blown up and they will dump everything on Russia. The old trick. The Germans bombarded neutral countries with our bombs ...

[shimus]

Why, and then drop somewhere and say that they are evil Russians.

[Black Colonel]

So, one cannot rule out the possibility that these ammunition can surprisingly end up in Syria and explode in some busy place in order to then accuse Russia of bombing civilians.
I immediately thought of something similar. Just like in Ichkeria - an airplane (helicopter) flew by, followed by a bomb exploding, "material evidence" is presented to the "international community" and here you are!

[raid14]

This arms deal of Qatar strangely smacks of, if not simpler, stinks, a provocation against Russia.
It is a pity that it is impossible to trace the entire supply chain, so that later these combinators will get wet in their "ex."

[cniza]

Quote: raid14

This arms deal of Qatar strangely smacks of, if not simpler, stinks, a provocation against Russia.
It is a pity that it is impossible to trace the entire supply chain, so that later these combinators will get wet in their "ex."

It seems to me that nothing is impossible, especially in our time, and it is simply necessary to do this ... to trace the entire chain and have time to highlight it before it smells.

[moskowit]

The deal has already been announced on TVC news, version for provocations. Acquired by a Polish company, the end buyer of the Ministry of Defense of Qatar ...

[Altona]

Such people will sell everything. They are now allies with the "civilized world" ...
PS In a previous article, it was said about the purchase of Soviet fighters from Belarus ...

[rus-5819]

"SpetsTechnoExport" (part of "Ukroboronprom") contacts the Polish "Level 11" for the sale of certain types of weapons and ammunition to foreign "partners".

"And I secretly traded this bonbochka from the" father "for a used" Humwee "
(Papandopulo from Zhmerynka)

Well, but seriously, you need to prepare for a series of provocations around the world, with the participation of the "Russian trace". Part of the "paid" can easily be "lost" in the same Poland, or they will move to the EU. After all, explosives can be used to determine the country of origin. Here is a ready-made "aggressor and threat to the world"

[acad.elc]

Provocation doesn’t work! Just like it was with chemical weapons and a boeng :)

[izya top]

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[sw6513]

These products can float up somewhere in Europe, toss oil into the fire ..

[dchegrinec]

Or Qatar is trying to substitute! And terrorists need bombs. Ukraine is ready to give everything now for Biden's smile! Eye and eye behind these obscurantists!

[Abakan]

I would like)) I don’t dream that these bombs were detonated at their airport and in their plane)) they are OUR))

[doc67]

Well done boys. Now any jamb, of course random, can be attributed to Ukrainians.

[Major_Vortex]

Now you can bomb Qatar. And then write off that they there incorrectly translated the instruction to some FAB-500 and blew it all to their damn mother. Qatar is small.

[capitosha1rang]

Qatar Matar!
Several years ago our guys from Vympel showed their capabilities.
Yes, some of the technical support group were "caught", but they were pulled out at the first opportunity.
What if, in the interests of Russia's geopolitics, Qatari princes become an obstacle, what / who will save them?
That's it!

[cniza]

Quote: capitosha1rang

Qatar Matar!
Several years ago our guys from Vympel showed their capabilities.
Yes, some of the technical support group were "caught", but they were pulled out at the first opportunity.
What if, in the interests of Russia's geopolitics, Qatari princes become an obstacle, what / who will save them?
That's it!

So it is necessary to stay ahead ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: capitosha1rang

What if, in the interests of Russia's geopolitics, Qatari princes become an obstacle, what / who will save them?

People who buy bombs deliberately for provocation - who, if not them, is a "hindrance" to Russia's interests? Here they write about the lead ... So it seems to me bombs must necessarily explode in a place completely unexpected for Qatari princes. The smallest is in a deserted place during transportation. Or maybe not in a deserted one. In any case - in a completely unexpected ...

[avva2012]

I do not know what to say. It seems to me far-fetched. Why fence the garden, blow something up on 200 a kilo and that's it. Show repaying reporters one or two fragments of an old bomb, for this, and one is enough. In addition, currently, the videoconferencing uses ammunition other than OFAB. For a quality setup, again, not good. And, the option of using old bombs in the form of landmines on the roads is not considered? Maybe, for some reason, Qatari products are not suitable for these purposes, or something else?

[DobryAAH]

And if you think about it? Is it really not clear why?
Media: US Air Force lacks ammunition to combat IS (Daesh)

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РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria/20151204/1336038335.html#ixzz3tdV3q3us

[donavi49]

No, bombs for Yemen, or rather for Sudan so that he fought in Yemen.

[kill the fascist]

not the fact that this is true, but in any case, such flare is not superfluous

[engineer74]

Everything is heading towards the provocation of the 3rd World War, the next "partners" want to make a mess and sit on the sidelines? It is necessary to somehow bring to the attention of these camelophiles, that in case of "something" they will first of all fall down!

[semuel]

In general, of course, it is necessary to close the sky for "kaolitsii". Moreover, those who want to fly are only added. Soon we will often hear "oops, I went out by mistake." It's time to stop the entrance yard.

[uge.garik]

... Why don’t you play up ..! we charter a Boeing in ukrostan, ship co-production products, and as requested - a direct flight to Qatar ...

[Fat]

I’m very interested in why this is not happening in Qatar or any technological disasters at gas production and liquefaction facilities. Is it really that there is the most highly qualified personnel and the most reliable equipment

[ARES623]

I may not be original, but it seems to me that having strong digital and network technologies, there is an urgent need to maintain instrumental accounting and control of weapons supplied for export, following their completely unique traces, in "critical sections". The situation with Buk is very indicative. It is clear that the old cannot be reversed. But what we sell today can return to us in years, decades. And, perhaps, the ability to remotely neutralize what we have manufactured will help to avoid serious, fatal troubles for someone.

[sisa29]

dark story. For a provocation, it’s not very good, whether there are enough bombs with the USSR badge around the world, this is not a very convincing argument. If it’s for land mines, it can and will go, but the same is not very convenient, it's hard. You can dial something more compact. Unclear. What comes to mind more is the loading in Odessa of everything on a barge, and either on the spot with screams Russia attacked or God forbid, of course, the Strait of Kerch.

[cap]

It is only necessary to sell a remote fuse that works through Glonas.
Arrange fireworks on the ship. From space will be seen.

[donavi49]

Everything is simple there. Qatar does not want to transport and bury its sheikhs from Yemen, and it is no longer possible to get down from the coalition. Qatar is now the chief recruiter of mercenaries and nigers for the coalition in Yemen, as well as an arms purchaser.

Sudan before the new year will throw:
Q-5IA - 12 aircraft
Su-25 - 8 aircraft
Su-24 - 2 aircraft

If the coalition provides the aircraft with repair, fuel and lubricants and weapons, it will incur all the expenses of the military personnel and reimburse the resource of equipment, as well as pay from above.


Sudan will also transfer 800 more combat nigers - which have already been prepared for Qatari money, bringing the group to 6 thousand.

[atamankko]

There is no limit to meanness, especially if there is support.

[nikowolf]

Good afternoon.
First I read about the UAE and an attempt to buy Mig 29 and Su 27, now about old-style bombs. In theory, these aircraft are capable of carrying them. Conclusion, maybe they wanted to bomb from these cars on residential objects?

[iouris]

We should expect provocations like the shooting down of the Boeing.

[Mama_Cholli]

Qatar is very interested in blocking the way through the Black Sea to the Mediterranean of our fillers. At least 40% of the oil exported by Russia goes through our ports of the Black Sea.
Probably these bombs can be used for terrorist attacks by IS against our ships of the merchant fleet. For example, a jet ski driven by a kamikaze suicide bomber is quite capable of sending a medium-sized ship to the bottom. If this is used for a tanker, then the large ship will be destroyed. At the same time, the pilot of such a torpedo, who has jumped off after the launch of the device to the target, has the opportunity to be picked up by the "pilot" by another (slave) jet ski. At the same time, any old fishing scow (not full of mullet) can act as a floating base for this kind of torpedo.
The protection of civilian fleet ships from this type of danger requires a rather expensive escort of ships by the military fleet, or the presence of a special team, respectively armed, on board a civilian ship.

So there is a problem. It is necessary for our special services to keep ukrovoyak-selling such "goods" somehow to demotivate ...

[Rassamaha]

buy from kaklov and dispose of, so that the civilian population of Donbas is not dumped))))))
p \ s the most correct solution would be

[jaroff]

And from whom do they buy bomb detonators? For example, АВУ-ЭТМ.

[raid14]

In the media, "the United States accuses Russia of an air raid on a Syrian army facility."
The purchase of old Soviet-Russian aviation weapons for such provocations, a comparative analysis of fragments and fragments by the Syrian military will point to Russian ammunition.

[Fantazer911]

That's where the stsuki, from the Belarusians, so they wanted to buy airplanes, like drying and twinks, but Minsk refused them, and then the bombs, a big racket is planned: -o

[Gunther]

Representatives of the Ministry of Defense of the UAE asked the Belarusian authorities to sell several MiG-29 and Su-27 aircraft to them from the presence of the Air Force and Air Defense Forces of Belarus, but were refused ...

It seems that CyberBerkut’s assumption that the Qatar rusher is preparing a provocation has every reason.