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In the West, found the "common interests" of the Kremlin and "IG"

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Many analysts in the West write that Moscow could become an ally of Washington in the fight against world terrorism. What prevents the Americans from forming a full-fledged coalition with the Kremlin and striking together bearded enemies? It turns out that something really hinders. There is an opinion that the Kremlin and the “Islamic State” have common interests: the destruction of the current world order. How can the White House make the right choice in such conditions?


In the West, found the "common interests" of the Kremlin and "IG"


German politician Dustin Dehets, director of the private research institute Manatee Global Advisors in Frankfurt am Main, is doubtful about the allegations of a possible alliance between Russia and the West.

His article was published on the portal atlantic-community.org and was translated "Mixednews".

Despite the fact, the author writes that in recent times many analysts have been writing about the need for a joint struggle between Russia and the Western states against terrorism, the formation of a coalition with the Kremlin against a single enemy is a big question. Why?

Dustin Dehets is sure that one “important circumstance” must be taken into account: the Kremlin and the “Islamic State” have “common interests” - they want to “destroy the modern world order”.

True, the degree of threats emanating from the two forces is different. Therefore, foreign policy must provide for proper prioritization. You can not make a mistake in the selection.

The analyst recalls that in the Financial Times newspaper columnist Gideon Rahman states: in the Syrian conflict, Russia is in fact an ally of America. And what about Europe? Why, the German example: The Social Democratic Party of Germany believes that Russia should be viewed as a force standing on the western side of the conflict. A member of the Bundestag, coordinator of cooperation with Russia, Central Asia and countries of the Eastern Partnership Gernot Erler says that the West and the Russian Federation should cooperate in Syria.

In the opinion of Dustin Dehets, the threat of IS, although it is real, is not at all the threat that will interfere with the existence of the current world order ruled by the West.

In addition, the "IG" can not defeat not because the militants are distinguished by military prowess. The fact is that the countries included in the coalition have their own priorities. And they outweigh the need for a joint struggle against the "caliphate."

The author of the article briefly lists these priorities.

Saudi Arabia has conceived to "put on its knees" Iran, whose interests are most vulnerable in Syria.

Iran is trying to preserve the regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria: after all, the government of the latter did not prevent Iran from supplying Hezbollah with everything necessary.

The US administration simply does not want to be drawn into another war in the Middle East.

For Turkey, the main source of anxiety is the approach of the Kurds to their goal - the creation of an independent state.

What would cooperation with Russians lead to?

According to Dehets, a coalition with the participation of the Russian Federation would not change the existing alignment. The Kremlin, like Iran, wants to maintain the power of Assad. On the other hand, the Russian “foray” was the result of a vacuum left by the Western powers. The West actually gave the Kremlin the opportunity to assume the role of an ally in the fight against IG, for which Washington and Brussels could pat Moscow on the head - cancel or at least weaken the sanctions regime, and without concessions in Ukraine. If the Kremlin had achieved such goals, Putin, the author believes, could have congratulated himself on the "doublet." He would have achieved and the abolition of sanctions, and would have kept "his troops in the east of Ukraine." And at the same time would guarantee the "survival" of the regime of Bashar Assad.

The expert proposes to judge the Kremlin not by words, but by deeds. The Kremlin claims that it fights against the IG, and in fact strikes blows mainly according to the forces of the “moderate opposition.”

In Europe, Russia has given the West a real challenge. He is, the analyst notes, a combination of several factors.

The war that Moscow is waging in Ukraine shows not only the desire of President Putin to maintain control over Kiev’s political future. The Kremlin, the author believes, threatens "the whole system of European security."

Russia seeks to undermine all the pillars: the OSCE, the NATO-Russia act, the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe, the Budapest Memorandum and "several other smaller mechanisms." And in its endeavor, Moscow has achieved "tremendous success." Why so?

It turns out that Berlin and Paris underestimated the “systemic and structural” nature of the confrontation. They are “trying to isolate and freeze the conflict around Ukraine” and thus make a big mistake, because “the actions of the Kremlin demonstrate that its challenge is addressed to the entire West”, and not to Ukraine alone.

As an argument to this thesis, the expert points to the "rhetoric of the Kremlin towards the Baltic countries": they say, this rhetoric "is rather threatening." And the Russians "almost regularly violate the airspace along the northern border of NATO."

And what about the West? And all his previous attempts to isolate conflicts with Russia led to zero results: violation of the armistice agreement in Georgia in 2008 went unpunished. Now it has come to the point that Berlin proposes to conclude a trade agreement with EurAsEC - the main brainchild of Putin.

Expert conclusion: yes, IG is a serious threat, but the confrontation with Russia is “systemic” in nature. And one more thing to be remembered: the Kremlin and the “IG” are related by their position on freedom - both the first and second are its enemies.

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So, the readers of “VO” got acquainted with the next opinion of the next outstanding researcher in the sphere of world politics. This time the expert was even the head of a whole research institute.

According to Dustin Dehets, that the Kremlin, that the IG are the same enemies of freedom, however, Russia is worse than the bearded ones because it is a “systemic” enemy, and in Europe it threatens not only Ukraine, but the whole West, encroaching on its peace agreements and progress. Putin is asleep and sees how to occupy the defenseless Baltic states and even encroach on the sacred - NATO alliance.

The article of this expert, apparently, leads the reader to the fact that the “defensive” Organization of the North Atlantic Treaty, the purpose of which at one time was to contain the “Soviet threat”, has not at all lost its relevance. The Russians were, and still are, “systemic” enemies of the West, responding with contempt to all the “peace initiatives” of Brussels.

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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 December 2015 06: 51 New
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    It is believed that the Kremlin and the Islamic State have common interests

    Already sick of systematic American stupidity and undisguised lies. Not surprisingly, the theory of the creation of ISIS by Russia to fight Western "democracy" will soon be pushed through.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 December 2015 07: 14 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60

      Already sick of systematic American stupidity and undisguised lies

      No wonder, in the USA they are now producing new cigarettes. - Smoke and drive all day.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 8 December 2015 07: 35 New
        +1
        Then it is clear why they are already systematically "blowing down".
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 8 December 2015 13: 01 New
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          Quote: rotmistr60
          Then it is clear why they are already systematically "blowing down".

          They remind me of a curious boy from a very old parable:
          All the kids had a navel like a belly button, and one boy had a nut instead of a belly button.
          Mom told him, don’t unscrew the nut, but the boy didn’t follow the advice and choosing the moment when Mom was not at home, unscrewed the nut, after which his ass fell off, which he couldn’t tighten and carried in his hands, getting the nickname " hand shred. " The moral of the parable - do not look on your F adventure.
          So it is now.
          The earth has an axis, the nut is screwed according to the results of the Second World War, the USSR mother, the USA and Europe handshake, which led the world into a big ass
      2. Idiot
        Idiot 15 January 2016 15: 05 New
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        is this a joke?
      3. Idiot
        Idiot 15 January 2016 15: 05 New
        0
        is this a joke?
    2. Shick
      Shick 8 December 2015 08: 53 New
      +2
      And you are not sick of the fact that we are rummaging through our media?
      Around propaganda .. across all channels and information resources.
      At the weekend, they criticized the president’s message so the article was quickly deleted as soon as it began to gain pluses.
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  3. asbond
    asbond 8 December 2015 06: 57 New
    +4
    Typical Anglo-Saxon logic: "I will not fight with my enemy, because my other enemy is fighting with him! Let them beat each other, and then I will come in fresh and dressed in white and declare myself a great winner!" Only now such a method will ride once or twice, and then? I would very much like Ostap Bender to say, “And then your curls become familiar and they just start to beat you!” When will they start ?! Already so tired!
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 8 December 2015 14: 02 New
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      Quote: asbond
      Typical Anglo-Saxon logic: "I will not fight with my enemy, because my other enemy is fighting with him! Let them beat each other, and then I will come in fresh and dressed in white and declare myself a great winner!"

      Sherkhan (c) "The Jungle Book" R. Kipling ...
  4. inkass_98
    inkass_98 8 December 2015 07: 03 New
    +3
    Another “global thinker” trying to make a grant or a warm place in the structures of the upper political strata with his scribbles. He did not say anything new, but put in his five cents. Well done, now we are waiting for a sharp change in his views at the first sign of a change in the "general line of the party."
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 8 December 2015 08: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: inkass_98
      Another "global thinker"


      Is the cheap daub of the next liberal Russophobe worth such close attention on the portal, occupied, in general, with a completely different subject?
  5. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 8 December 2015 07: 22 New
    +3
    Russia seeks to undermine all the pillars: the OSCE, the NATO-Russia Act, the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe, the Budapest Memorandum and “a few more smaller mechanisms”

    Yes, yes, Russia is like that, as well as the Convention on the Protection of Euro-Asian Migratory Birds and the Copenhagen Agreement. yes
  6. Svarog5570
    Svarog5570 8 December 2015 07: 41 New
    +1
    as a result of the migration of peoples from Arab countries to Europe, there have become more frequent cases of mass smoking of weed, hence the conclusion of a glitch from European researchers seriously and for a long time and this is dangerous for a country with a clear position.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 8 December 2015 07: 46 New
    +3
    It is believed that the Kremlin and the Islamic State have common interests: the destruction of the current world order.... And now, remember the howl and caricatures of the Western press, when the Moscow Treaty of 1939 was signed On not an attack between the USSR and Germany .. When did the West enlist the USSR as an ally of Nazi Germany ... doesn’t it remind?
    1. Antanas
      Antanas 8 December 2015 08: 53 New
      -11
      The Non-Aggression Pact was Stalin’s crime against his own people.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 8 December 2015 09: 05 New
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        Quote: Antanas
        The Non-Aggression Pact was Stalin’s crime against his own people.


        Bend, dear, it was a forced step, which gave us a two-year respite. yes
      2. Idiot
        Idiot 15 January 2016 15: 10 New
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        The non-aggression pact was a crime of Stalin I.V. in front of the peoples of Europe and the USA. It is what it is. Therefore, they still cannot forgive him for this, and Churchill was even kicked out of the prime ministers after the war - the hosts could not forgive him for the victories of the USSR. Not for this the war began.
      3. Idiot
        Idiot 15 January 2016 15: 10 New
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        The non-aggression pact was a crime of Stalin I.V. in front of the peoples of Europe and the USA. It is what it is. Therefore, they still cannot forgive him for this, and Churchill was even kicked out of the prime ministers after the war - the hosts could not forgive him for the victories of the USSR. Not for this the war began.
  8. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 8 December 2015 07: 56 New
    +1
    Another pseudo expert
    another opus of Western verbiage,
    composed for the sole purpose of overthrowing the problem of terrorism from one’s own head.
    In short, the search for the damaged brain of the patient ward 6.
    I don’t even want to disassemble and refute this thoughtlessness.
  9. surrozh
    surrozh 8 December 2015 08: 20 New
    +2
    Well done expert! The following conclusion suggests itself: ISIS must be fully supported, terrorist acts, decapitation and burning alive - all to fight Russia!
  10. Aleksander
    Aleksander 8 December 2015 08: 43 New
    +1
    According to Dustin Dehets, the Kremlin and the “IG” are the same enemies of freedom, but Russia is worse than a bearded man because it is a “systemic” enemy, and in Europe it threatens not only Ukraine, but the whole West,


    The author’s enchanting delirium .... Nothing, “miserable” bearded refugees, rapidly spreading across Germany, will quickly clear his brain, and not in words ...
  11. Antanas
    Antanas 8 December 2015 09: 07 New
    -8
    ISIS for Putin is an excuse to intervene in the war in order to preserve Assad’s regime, no more, because this regime means a lot to the Kremlin in terms of the possibility of maintaining at least some of its presence and influence in the Middle East. Moreover, ISIS suffered little from these strikes - most of them were inflicted on opposition forces hostile to ISIS. ISIS itself is a rather amorphous formation, which is generally problematic to inflict tangible damage from the air. Its influence in eastern Syria, the Russian forces hardly bombed the area. simple - the main threat to the Assad regime is precisely as the authorities - not ISIS, but those forces that are located near Damascus and in the western part of Syria. The strength of ISIS lies in the massive influx of people and the spread of Islamic terror for the "infidels" and "wrong" Muslims in the territories controlled by ISIS. But today they do not pose a great threat to the Assad regime as a government.
    1. Belousov
      Belousov 8 December 2015 09: 38 New
      +3
      Rare okhinea.
      1) ISIS is an occasion for Putin to intervene in the war. And why then did not intervene before? ISIS is not the first day it seems to exist.
      2) Hostile ISIS forces are perhaps only Kurds. Or does hostile mean pseudo-moderate opposition? So it seems they have never fought during the war years. Even after Russia's proposal to unite in the fight against a common enemy, they did not respond. Yes, and no one to answer, not a single leader of this "Syrian opposition" could not present to the world.
      3) Regarding damage in the east - is it worth bombing a fortified area if there is no one to take it then? We must first solve all matters in the west, liberate the cities, and then go east. Or do you propose to bomb dunes following the example of staff members?
      4) The strength of ISIS in the mass influx of militants, but is this not a threat to Assad? And for whom then is this threat? For Antarctic penguins? Or for a kangaroo? And how can one not perceive ISIS as a threat if they occupy almost 80% of the country? Even if it is mainly a desert.
      In general, another "chosen" nonsense on the basis of "Assad must leave because he kills bearded children and ones."
      1. Antanas
        Antanas 8 December 2015 10: 03 New
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        1) There was no reason for Putin to justify it. After the formation of the Islamic State, a strategic decision was made and put into practice. It’s just that everything isn’t done at one moment. 2) Not only the Kurds are far away. ) In the west of Syria there is no IS at all. Why lie that ISIS is bombing? And if you really want to destroy IS, start cleansing the area from those very "bearded" ones, otherwise it is impossible to do anything with it. 3) The priority threat to Assad is just secular opposition because she is a good thief wife as opposed to the IG, whose main weapon - tachanki- "dzhihadmobili", and its purpose - namely the overthrow of the Assad regime, not hypothetical, and obscure the IG.
        1. mark2
          mark2 8 December 2015 14: 58 New
          +1
          With Sinai it is more visible, of course)

          And if you really want to destroy the IG, start sweeping the area from those very “bearded” ones, otherwise nothing can be done with it.


          The logic of the fraternal Jewish people is surprising. The bearded men at their side and should we clean? If ISIS interferes with everything, then instead of pouring a bucket of mud on each other, they would help. obviously, there wouldn’t be enough strength.

          Probably, Russia did not have to meddle in this Middle Eastern viper. it was necessary to wait a little time when bearded men surrounded proud Israel from all sides ...

          maybe they didn’t surround them .. Jews agree with anyone. such a nation. everywhere without soap
          1. Antanas
            Antanas 8 December 2015 15: 56 New
            -3
            These bearded men do not bother us yet. They will try to snoop - they will immediately. The only thing is that they will not shove. Their strength lies in local Muslims who are infected with the ideas of extremist Islam. Israel does not threaten this in any way, and local Arabs are under the tight control of special services. They are completely they’re not fools to climb the border on their “jihadmobiles.” Apart from these “carts” they have little serious, but we have a powerful army group in the Golan, everything is continuously monitored to Damascus and beyond, and mines are installed across the Syrian border fields.Next warrior It’s absolutely nothing at all to make official statements to us. Iran’s attempts to transfer modern weapons to its Hezbollah puppet are much more dangerous. Therefore, the Syrians regularly raid when they try to convey these “premises.” So if you got involved in this mess, now disentangle yourself Although I have to admit that there is quite good coordination between our military, we don’t interfere with them, they don’t interfere with us. And the example of your plane that flown a little to us is a vivid example. We did not act like the Turks.
    2. Idiot
      Idiot 15 January 2016 15: 16 New
      0
      Therefore, the Russian Aerospace Forces bomb the "right" opposition with the right bombs, and the "wrong" - the wrong. To avoid confusion.
    3. Idiot
      Idiot 15 January 2016 15: 16 New
      0
      Therefore, the Russian Aerospace Forces bomb the "right" opposition with the right bombs, and the "wrong" - the wrong. To avoid confusion.
      1. Antanas
        Antanas 15 January 2016 17: 04 New
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        Yes, in fact, your president just recently backtracked, saying that he “cooperates with the healthy forces of the opposition.” Does that mean not “shit sort?” Do you already have “healthy forces”?
  12. Antanas
    Antanas 8 December 2015 09: 13 New
    -7
    [quote = Lelek] [quote = Antanas] "Non-aggression pact" was Stalin's crime against his own people. [/ quote]

    Bend, dear, it was a forced step, which gave us a two-year respite. yes[/ Yes, that’s how we were taught at school at the time. But in fact it was far from it. Today there are enough historical documents refuting this thesis. It can also be argued that Stalin did not strengthen in these 2 years, but very weakened combat readiness and the general condition of the army.
  13. salad
    salad 8 December 2015 11: 29 New
    +1
    Another nonsense laughing
  14. Stariknv
    Stariknv 8 December 2015 13: 11 New
    +1
    No wonder all the same scream comes from the United States and their puppets from Ukraine, Russia is to blame.
    In fact, who started the war in the Middle East and Ukraine, it’s understandable not Russia who is deploying troops in Europe and the Baltic countries who have been fighting IS for three years, but where are the results from the USA and not Russia, and from whom to ask the answer one from the USA.
  15. Dimitrakis
    Dimitrakis 8 December 2015 16: 39 New
    +1
    That they smoke there in the west, and then make delusional remarks. And in general, the Western press is a clot of senility.
  16. X
    X Y Z 8 December 2015 19: 11 New
    0
    The expert proposes to judge the Kremlin not by words, but by deeds. The Kremlin claims that it fights against the IG, and in fact strikes blows mainly according to the forces of the “moderate opposition.”


    And it kind of gives us pleasure to listen and read like that! This nonsense is pronounced every day dozens of times and has long turned into a Western mantra. Is it really impossible in the court to demand evidence from at least one such "analyst" and shut up many? Or is the concept of “moderate opposition” so vague that they can “reward” any part of the radical militants?
  17. Bakht
    Bakht 8 December 2015 21: 37 New
    +3
    How right were the classics ....

    "The amount of mind on the planet is a constant value. And the population is growing."
  18. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 9 December 2015 00: 36 New
    +1
    The head of the "private" research institute for the fight against the USSR, Dustin Dekhets, became very sad after 1989 and the sudden loss of enemies. After he had bathed, he realized that he could finish his dissertation by changing several letters and inventing his own dissident story. Let him write his nonsense further. A good man, as a result, he will give all his fortune to the dogs, someone will benefit.