Turkey declares that "it no longer intends to send its troops to Iraq" and expresses indignation at the "Russian threat to Turkish civil aviation"

Information Agency Bloomberg reports that Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu announced Turkey’s desire to strengthen "interaction with Iraq for anti-terrorism purposes." At the same time, the Turkish Prime Minister added that "Turkey does not intend to cast doubt on the sovereignty of Iraq and the territorial integrity of the country."

Earlier, the Turkish authorities said they were going to send an additional contingent of military personnel of the Turkish Armed Forces to the Iraqi city of Bashik in the province of Ninawa. On the eve, Davutoglu said that “Turkey no longer intends to send its military to Bashik. At the same time, the head of the Turkish Cabinet added that "Turkey had previously informed the Iraqi authorities about the assistance that official Ankara is going to provide to the Iraqi military" in the form of training and instruction in combating terrorists DAISH (ISIL).

Meanwhile, the Turkish authorities expressed, as reported by the BBC, “indignation at the fact that a Russian soldier was“ seen with a grenade launcher ”on board the landing ship“ Caesar Kunikov ”en route through the Bosporus and the Dardanelles. Turkish Foreign Minister Cavusoglu called this a “provocation”:

If a soldier on a Russian military ship parades a grenade launcher or something else, like air defense missiles, then this is pure provocation.

The first who drew attention to the man with MANPADS in his hands, was the representative of the German edition of "Bild". In Turkey, after the publication of the pictures, they said that the Russian military "are threatening the civil air fleet with their provocative actions."

It is strange that neither Bild journalists nor the Turkish authorities express outrage and fear that terrorists stroll through the streets in Turkey, who are not only cured in Turkish clinics, but also arming, equipping and preparing for new terrorist actions. But the protection of the Russian ship caused a strange reaction.

Comments

[avvg]

And hard to believe!

[Dembel77]

Erdogan ruined - now all of Turkey will answer. Now they will see a threat to themselves in every Russian soldier. Rightly scared! We will not forgive the betrayal, it is impossible to forgive!

"A soul that has committed a betrayal perceives any surprise as the beginning of retribution" (Fazil Iskander)

[Tatyana]

From the text of the article
"Turkey does not intend to question the sovereignty of Iraq and the territorial integrity of the country."

And the Turkish troops, without an invitation from the Iraqi leadership, arbitrarily pressed themselves into Iraq and arbitrarily occupied Iraqi territory - on the TANKS!
And, most importantly, they are NOT going to leave there !!!
Erdogan is definitely naughty - and for good it will definitely NOT end for him!

[Mr. Fun]

This of course does not fit into any framework. Erdogan smoked something strong along the way, because of his actions, it seems that he had definitely gone for cuckoo. And so - not weak! It’s not a question to bring down a Russian plane ... It’s not a question to fall into Iraq on tanks, it’s not at all ... I’ve completely lost my fear ?! He thinks the United States will fit in for him, probably. Insert a large piston and drive them into the neck from Iraq. These framers think that they will not tumble, and do what they want ...

Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu announced Turkey’s desire to strengthen "cooperation with Iraq for counter-terrorism purposes"

That is, now it is so called when the military of another country falls into the country without an invitation.

[WKS]

expresses outrage at "Russian threat to Turkish civil aviation"

From such idiots as Erdogan and this smiling Davutoglu, one can now expect any stupidity. For example, a helicopter attack on our warship. Here is a fighter with MANPADS and put in this case, not to use the S-400 in the straits.

[Starley from the south]

Quote: wks

Here is a fighter with MANPADS and put on this case

What kind of MANPADS are they? The Turks, but the Germans, too, with poor eyesight, let them turn to the optometrist! Is it not visible that this is an ordinary stick? .. After all, when the head off, the vision does not remain on the sidelines!

[WAP Master]

I do not agree ... This is not a stick. This is a 3D psychological microscope of a new generation, for observing Erdogan’s political hysteria.

[pettabyte]

Quote: Mr.Fun

That is, now it is so called when the military of another country falls into the country without an invitation.

This is sodomite hypocrisy (tolerance). Well and yes, war is a type of interaction, they know how to lie. In the style of the USA.

[sharp-lad]

It would be necessary to strengthen cooperation with Ukraine in the Donbass according to the Turkish scenario! And let the NATO Allies try something to blather on the subject of sovereignty!

[unfriendly]

I am not a politician or an officer, but my opinion is that the President and Prime Minister of Turkey should be disposed of. As our chief says: "Responsibility must be personal." Well, everything else, this will help to avoid not only repetition, but also accusations against Russia - a brick can fall on anyone's head and we are not in business here. At the same time, the North Atlantic will be more careful - there are a lot of bricks and icicles - you never know what ...

[aksakal]

Quote: Tatiana

And, most importantly, they are NOT going to leave there !!!
Erdogan is definitely naughty - and for good it will definitely NOT end for him!

why did Erdogan also do this? There is a curious version. After 24 hours, the deadline for the withdrawal of Erdogan troops from Iraq expires (yesterday it seemed like Iraq gave 48 hours). Of course, Erdogan will not withdraw troops, Iraq will have to declare war on Turkey. But in fact there will be no military operations against Turkey - Iraq simply does not have any resources at all. It turns out that Turkey will formally be at war, although no one will fight against it in fact. What do we have in the Montreux Convention? And anyway, isn’t that why a tank platoon was brought into Iraq at all? In general, beautiful in its course
It is clear that Russia will not declare it because of this. It is clear that it will be necessary to negotiate with Iran and Iraq as the culprit of this catastrophe on an alternative route for providing Russian troops in Syria, while by air, and there, as the territory is cleared, and land caravans (again, ambushes, like in Afghanistan?). In general, in this situation, by all means, the task of controlling the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits arises before Russia, for life shows that Russia will be locked up in the Black Sea for any reason and at any time, and how not to violate the Montreux Convention technical, it costs one or two, now we will observe this. Does Russia like this state of affairs? Not. So, the straits from Turkey must be taken away, since they can’t use it. But how to take away from Turkey, while not giving the Kurds what they ask and the Armenians for what they dream about? Yes, and the Greeks too somehow offend ... So, Turkey is doomed as doomed? I would like to quickly, until the business in the Ottoman frenzy did not

[umah]

why did Erdogan also do this?

My version: then, why, and our drying was shot down, to ensure the transportation of oil. ISIS was supplied in two ways - through Turkey and through northern Iraq. Now that the supply (and oil export) through Turkey is in jeopardy, the Turks have decided to activate the second corridor, through Iraq. Troops were deployed to organize a bridgehead, transfer militants and ensure oil transportation.

[Corsair]

Quote: aksakal

What do we have in the Montreux Convention?

The Montreux convention says that if Turkey is a belligerent, it is nevertheless obliged to let through all the ships of countries with which it is not at war. If the other side is at war, while Turkey is not a participant in this war, Turkey must also pass all ships.

[Mahmut]

If Turkey overlaps the Bosphorus, then the question of the territories adjacent to it from the resolved and guaranteed by the international community turns into an open one. But the trick is that the strait is a tidbit not only for Russia and Greece, but also for any NATO + US country. It wouldn’t work like that with Hussein. First, the Allies persuaded him to invade Kuwait, and then used this as an excuse to attack Iraq themselves. It can also happen here. Having provoked a large-scale conflict between the Russian Federation and Turkey, it’s time to come to the dessert ourselves in order to capture the strait.

[Old old]

Maybe a bike, or maybe not.
“Curiously, at the end of the 70s, Turkey announced that it was considering closing the passage through the Bosphorus in the Mediterranean for Soviet warships.
To this statement, comrade Gromyko Andrei Andreevich (USSR Foreign Minister from 1957 to 1985) told American journalists at a cocktail party at the White House that a passage to the Mediterranean Black Sea Fleet of the USSR would require only a couple of volleys of missiles.
As a result of this, in addition to the Bosphorus, two more passages will appear in the Mediterranean, but, alas, there will be no Istanbul.
After these words, Turkey never again raised the issue of closing the Bosphorus for the warships of the USSR. "
Source - http://rusdozor.ru/2015/11/30/kak-gromyko-bosfor-zashhitil/

[pettabyte]

Quote: Mahmut

It can also happen here. Having provoked a large-scale conflict between the Russian Federation and Turkey, it’s time to come to the dessert ourselves in order to capture the strait.

It is believed that this will be ours in full readiness.
In other matters, the United States is Turkey’s pimp.

[33 Watcher]

The version is interesting, but Iraq, it is not necessary to declare war, may be bombed by this limited contingent, they may not even get there, it’s so close, and they will most likely leave.

[Gomel]

a very very plausible version, however, in this case, Turkey will be considered an aggressor, and this is a slightly different scenario in the geopolitics of the straits.
Let's look at the development of the situation.

"chlamyda" as they put it, on a fighter - it looks like a naval jacket or something like that

Does anyone identify the MANPADS brand? is in service?
because if the photoshop is very competent - a place behind the mast in the shade against the sun is chosen, the figure is shaded as much as possible. But by the way, besides this photo, there are others ... too much Photoshop in this case. So most likely not a fake. And the fighter was taken to the deck just to prevent provocations. and then the boats are trimmed, then the submarines, then the drones "civil" fly over the Bosphorus ... yeah.

[-Traveler-]

Quote: aksakal

What we have in the Montreux Convention

"Article 21
Should Turkey consider itself to be in imminent danger of war, it will have the right to apply the provisions of Article 20 of this Convention (In time of war, when Turkey is a belligerent ... the passage of warships will depend solely on the discretion of the Turkish Government.) ... ... Turkey may prevent the use of this right by the ships of the state whose position would have caused the application of this article. If the Turkish government takes advantage of the opportunities provided by the first paragraph set out above, it will notify the High Contracting Parties and the Secretary General of the League of Nations. If the Council of the League of Nations decides by a two-thirds majority that the measures thus taken by Turkey are not justified, and if such is the opinion of the majority of the High Contracting Parties signatory to this Convention, then the Turkish Government undertakes to repeal these measures, as well as those which would be adopted by virtue of Article 6 of this Convention. "

I am certainly not an expert in international and maritime law, but nevertheless I am able to read and analyze.
thus, if Turkey considers itself to be in danger (quite subjectively, isn’t it), then it has the right to close the straits for the military courts of the country of danger. after that, Turkey must notify (not ask permission, but notify) the League of Nations and the Secretary General (now the United Nations and Ban Ki-moon) and the signatories of the convention (Bulgaria, France, Great Britain, Greece, Japan, Romania, Turkey, Russia, Yugoslavia).
and if at the same time 10 out of 15 members of the UN Security Council and 5 out of 9 Montreux participants decide that Turkey is not right, then the Turks will have to reopen the straits.
For 2015, the composition of the UN Security Council is the United Kingdom, USA, France, China, Russia, Lithuania, Jordan, Nigeria, Chad, Chile, Angola, Venezuela, Malaysia, New Zealand, Spain.
for 2016, the composition of the UN Security Council is the United Kingdom, USA, France, China, Russia, Ukraine, Japan, Senegal, Egypt, Uruguay, Angola, Venezuela, Malaysia, New Zealand, Spain.
Now guess who on these lists those 10 countries that vote against.

[Orionvit]

The Turks somehow do not understand, or pretend that during the existence of the Ottoman Empire and Turkey in general, the Turks have so spoiled their relations with their neighbors that the Turks simply have no closest allies. And the Armenians, and Greeks, and Bulgarians, and Kurds, and Persians, now Iraqis, and even Serbs with Hungarians, on occasion, this Turkey will be torn to pieces. All peoples where the Turks were have their own accounts for them. So if a mess happens, then the Turks count on indulgence or mercy is simply stupid.

[Starley from the south]

Erdogan has long decided to aggravate. It didn’t work out in Crimea - our energy bridge was quickly built, to go into Syria - you can get it by face. So they decided to enter defenseless Iraq. There is nothing to doubt, soon Turkish or other workers will appear there, they will build an oil pipeline. And so that the Kurds did not interfere with this, troops were introduced.
And in general, in a strategic plan, it is necessary to promote the creation of a new state - Kurdistan. But Turkey must be finished, it is not only for us, it causes not only serious problems to all its neighbors, but it has committed and is committing crimes such as genocide against them! Turkey, as a state throughout its history, has shown that one can expect from it any, worst crime to all, without exception. There was only one normal ruler - Ataturk. But the exception confirms the rule.

[Lieutenant colonel]

Aksakal - you know how to read other people's thoughts ?!
This is precisely the scenario that comes to mind. With the exception of the fact that Turkey should close the straits to all countries. But Turkey does not fight with all countries. Well, Russia is not a party to the conflict. So it’s kind of written in the concept?

[nemets]

let the Iraqi government only ask us to protect sovereignty, these tanks will not even be allowed to move

[Egor123]

Well, I think Iraq will soon strengthen the army and drive them out of there.
There are already our t-90 decided to purchase
And in general, it is surprising that Turkey is training the Kurds, against whom they fought in Syria ... Although the United States did not want this. They are strange

[Armored optimist]

A fighter dressed up in some strange mantle. Not ours, I would say. Photoshop?

[Good me]

Quote: armored optimist

A fighter dressed up in some strange mantle. Not ours, I would say. Photoshop?

It seems you are right ...

Especially if you approximately compare the outlines of the figures in these photos.

[umah]

The shapes are very similar. Probably following this photo, the stuffing will be the message "Russia transports terrorists on its ships and supplies them with MANPADS."

[Hyppopotut]

Withdrew from the language ...

[lukke]

Black sailor overcoat and nothing more. The photo just has an unfortunate angle - a plaque of the belt that would give a glimpse of the sailor covered his elbow because holds MANPADS, not a grenade launcher. But with the headdress of a sailor - violation of the uniform came out)

[provincial]

on the chelma’s head, a new uniform for sailors according to Yuldashkin.

[uragan114]

Yes, an ordinary helmet. It’s just standing in the shadow of the mast, and here’s the light.

[lukke]

Black sailor overcoat and nothing more. The photo just has an unfortunate angle - a plaque of the belt that would give a glimpse of the sailor covered his elbow because holds MANPADS, not a grenade launcher. But with the headdress of a sailor - violation of the uniform came out)

[cniza]

Quote: armored optimist

A fighter dressed up in some strange mantle. Not ours, I would say. Photoshop?

Very strange and suspicious photo, photo toad definitely.

[sa-zz]

This is Fake, and - primitive.
But for the West, just proof of "aggression"

[Darkoff]

If a soldier on a Russian military ship parades a grenade launcher or something else, like air defense missiles, then this is pure provocation.

Fake is not fake. And there, probably now all our ships are in full readiness for everything. This is a defense against a possible stab in the back.
If our plane was shot down, then where is the guarantee that the ship will not be tried to sink? Including from the air.

[anfil]

This is a phantom, even otherworldly forces guard us.

[pettabyte]

Quote: anfil

This is a phantom, even otherworldly forces guard us.

The main thing is that phantoms in cloak tents, helmets and with PPSh do not go next. I will be ashamed in front of them for piercing the country.

[72jora72]

Quote: cniza

Quote: armored optimist

A fighter dressed up in some strange mantle. Not ours, I would say. Photoshop?

Very strange and suspicious photo, photo toad definitely.

It is strange that Putin himself is not with MANPADS --- flaw

[ver_]

... on YouTube this figure was in Syria ...- photoshop ...

[Amurets]

Not Photoshop, but Photoshop. He’s wearing perfume-like clothes in Afghanistan.

[kitamo]

Quote: armored optimist

A fighter dressed up in some strange mantle. Not ours, I would say. Photoshop?

come on ... ordinary overcoat ... I'm still surprised that the balalaika was not drawn

[1rl141]

What is an overcoat? Who walks on a ship in overcoats? Yes, and in the latitudes of the Mediterranean Sea ... And a hat, probably with a slit for the eyes, who will give the fighter?
Specialists, look at the outlines of MANPADS, what type?
Do we have one in service?
This is pure toad. For a gifted electorate.

[kitamo]

Quote: 1rl141

What is an overcoat? Who walks on a ship in overcoats? Yes, and in the latitudes of the Mediterranean Sea ... And a hat, probably with a slit for the eyes, who will give the fighter?

what do you take so seriously? about the balalaika too seriously taken?
but the hats with slots are not visible there ... although this hat is not very similar to a cap or a cap ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: kitamo

come on ... ordinary overcoat ... I'm still surprised that the balalaika was not drawn

Indeed, how do our ships go without balalaika and a bear with a matryoshka doll in the seas? They and the General Staff of the Russian Federation looks something like this

[cap]

Nyrobsky (1) SU Today, 12:05 PM ↑ New

Quote: kitamo
come on ... ordinary overcoat ... I'm still surprised that the balalaika was not drawn

Indeed, how do our ships go without balalaika and a bear with a matryoshka doll in the seas? They and the General Staff of the Russian Federation looks something like this

Class +++

[Sorokin]

And where is the tub with cabbage and vodka on ice?

[maks-101]

Erdogan today is a monkey with a grenade. There is no trust and never will be.

[Allitet]

When Vladimir Putin spoke about the downed SU-24 in Turkey: in that tone he spoke only once. In 1999, when the terrorists staged an explosion in the Moscow metro. Where are these terrorists now?

[Kathernik]

Photo from MANPADS - fake. If you look closely. And clothes and shadows. It feels like they cut it out of a newspaper and stuck it next to it. And all this is being done, including Erdogan .....

[marlin1203]

Yes, the Turks themselves are not a gift, but in fact, why drive a fighter with MANPADS when passing through the straits onto the superline? It was also possible to line up a crew on the upper deck with weapons, conduct demonstrative classes in hand-to-hand combat, sing "Varyag" in chorus so that the Turks could do it out of fear and fire up another note of protest. But why? Actions must be covert and effective so that the enemy flinches when he is already "fucked"

[Corsair]

Quote: marlin1203

But why? Actions must be covert and effective so that the enemy flinches when he is already "fucked"

Do you suggest mines to sink quietly with remote control? it is possible even with SBCH ...

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: marlin1203

Yes, the Turks themselves are not a gift, but in fact, why when passing through the straits to the superstructure of a fighter with MANPADS?

The same thing has already been said ........ Why should bombers cover fighters, because there is nobody and nothing to shoot them !! ??
This is the work of the military. They should include any, even the most fantastic option. If a proverb is for a civilian: It’s better to re-watch than not to watch, just words. That for the military is a guide to action.

[your1970]

therefore, demonstratively, and put-so that there were no stupid thoughts ..

[Proud.]

Quote: marlin1203

Sing "Varyag" in unison,

Moreover, in the original language. In German. The Turkish Turk finally got it wrong

[Vikings]

In fact, there is nothing strange and unexpected! All
as old as the World. The goals and objectives are the same, only the methods have changed
and approaches have become cynical and ruthless. Facts published
in article, biased and subjective towards Russia! All
the facts above are far-fetched!

[python2a]

Davutogly’s statement is an interference in the internal valleys of Russia, since the ship is Russian territory. And on our territory we are free to do what we consider necessary.

[SAXA.SHURA]

And that there is no anti-aircraft cover on board such a ship, what kind of horseradish they make people laugh, you can get rid of it, there is a modern warship, and a soldier with MANPADS covering it on the deck, you would have put it with a slingshot.

[OlegLex]

Yes, indeed, if you pay attention to the fact that, according to the proportions, the anti-aircraft gun stands a few meters from the soldier in the foreground, who is well lit by the sun. then we can draw preliminary conclusions that the photo is fake.
arguments:
the anti-aircraft gun is in the shadow of which there basically cannot be, the mast will not give such a thick shadow that would cover both the shooter and the MANPADS that he holds in his hands
anti-aircraft gunner’s position, he is clearly standing on a stationary surface and is clearly not ready to block longitudinal impulses, that is, he is not a sailor,
and third, what kind of dress is it on his head? and what kind of mantle he is wearing, the fighter is clearly not dressed according to the Charter.

[Darkmor]

Everything can be expected from Turkish civil aviation.
Suddenly, they decide that our ship crosses the Turkish border 5cm to the left of the fairway, and discharge an anti-ship missile into it.

In general, their indignation is not clear. Well, standing on a military board is a military man with weapons;
What does civil aviation have to do with it?
And if he had SVD in his hands? Would the Turks immediately declare that he is preparing an attempt on Erdogan?
And the sapper blade in the hands can be generally regarded as an attempt to bury the Bosphorus.

[Teplohod]

If the hype was raised, then someone needs it.

[Wolka]

and in the hands of the boy it looks like "Willow"

[Decathlon]

And dressed in a greatcoat, no ?!

[Polovtsian]

Quote: Decathlon

And dressed in a greatcoat, no ?!

It would be more strange if he was dressed in colored shorts and the same T-shirt. And so he is dressed in our military uniform, which the Motherland gave, the sailor wears, especially since it is not very hot there now.

[Al_oriso]

and in the hands of the boy it looks like "Willow"

It seems - yes, and as he begins to bomb all Tuption now! (described, but did not fix).

[alex-cn]

The Turk was locked in a corner. Now they will bark and snarl for every reason ...

[oleg46]

The one who did this photo collage was not paid, probably, the right amount. Therefore, he could not do his work as required. Something like this. But seriously seriously it stinks of provocation.

[Andrea]

What an ass, sorry, provocation! A ship is a sovereign territory, which I want to turn around. Nobody beeps when destroyers and frigates crawl up to the top stuffed with missile defense and air defense. I don’t need to put all the rotten eggs on me. where they should go.

[oleg46]

Quote: Andrea

What an ass, sorry, provocation!

You do not understand - I mean the provocation from the Turks. If there is an opportunity to make a photo montage, then why not make a video montage?

[Andrea]

And I understood exactly that. Even if the company with a MANPADS is standing, everyone should sit exactly — this is our territory.
We are not breaking anything.

[oleg46]

Quote: Andrea

And I understood exactly that. Even if the company with a MANPADS is standing, everyone should sit exactly — this is our territory.
We don't break anything

The same position ...

[pettabyte]

Quote: oleg46

You do not understand - I mean the provocation from the Turks. If there is an opportunity to make a photo montage, then why not make a video montage?

More expensive, 1 frame (total) versus 30 or more (per second).
And the more frames the greater the likelihood of a jamb-pale.

[ARES623]

"the Russian military" threaten the civilian air fleet with their provocative actions. "
Since when did the civil aviation fleet start flying at echelons below 5000 meters? An anti-aircraft gunner, in this case, should be regarded as an indicator of distrust in the receiving side, as a readiness to repel an attack by an air enemy in the territorial waters of Turkey.

[izya top]

Yes, no one (Turks) has yet threatened you

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Yes, our harness is not for detski :)

[iliitchitch]

Looks like the grimy ones from that pelvis specifically screwed up that they frolic so much over them. And what about the seizures of our ships I have not heard anymore ...

[pvv113]

In Turkey, after the publication of the pictures, they said that the Russian military "threaten the civilian air fleet with their provocative actions."

It seems that the dill lessons were not in vain. Soon "little green men" will start to appear

[inkass_98]

Some body in a lapserdak stands on the upper deck with something like "Needle". Vague doubts gnaw at me - the second warrior is seen quite clearly, namely the one who represents the "Threat to the Air Force" - blurred and in the shadows. Is it that, already in raincoats, our soldiers are serving in clear sunny weather?

[Bazilevs]

Yes, this is all bullshit, this is a photo, but the main thing !!!, what bothers me is what he said - "a threat to passenger planes", did they not think to organize a provocation, to overwhelm their plane with passengers and blame Russia as it was already it is necessary to take some measures, since such limitlessness has gone ...

[en 45]

At first glance it looks more like an ISIS ... Photoshop?

[Polovtsian]

In Turkey, after the publication of the photographs, they said that the Russian military "threaten the civilian air fleet with their provocative actions."

It was not necessary to touch our Su24, then our ships would not have to go through the straits in full combat readiness to repulse the attack. That's the whole story ...
And in general, since the Turkish leadership declares this:

“Turkey does not intend to question the sovereignty of Iraq and the territorial integrity of the country”

I’ll remind you that the territory of the ship is part of the territory of the state to which it belongs, this also applies to the airspace above it, so respect the sovereignty of Russia and we will not offend you ...

[Shark Lover]

This is a warship, they still have guns, missiles, dismantle them at the sight of the Turkish coast? Idiocy rolls over.

[press officer]

and where is our flag on the ship ?????? no? strange ... but where is the bear next to the balalaika and vodka? not guys .. these are not ours ..he is in some kind of cloak .. we don’t have enough of these photos! you don’t have enough of our military intelligence data, and we don’t need your idiotic photos!

[inkass_98]

How to order ...

[cniza]

I liked it, inspired from the 60s of the last century. Thank.

[Rock616]

il so
you will be surprised

[Svarog5570]

Soon they will wake up in a cold sweat for it will seem like ours nailed a shield on the gates of Istanbul

[Taygerus]

even hard to believe, most likely somewhere in the Internet took a photo

[afrikanez]

Turkey has once again shown that it is not far gone from Ukraine Yes, actually from the states too

[demo]

But have we already gone through civil aviation options?
Is such a development possible?
How is it in Ukraine?

[Aleksander]

If a soldier on a Russian military ship parades a grenade launcher or something else, like air defense missiles, then this is pure provocation.

And the guns on Kunnikov, do not cause them a sense of provocation?

[Babai Balkan]

..the main thing is that under this basis the Erdogan sheep shouldn’t overwhelm some passenger ... maybe, Mr. ... nukes !!!

[Support]

Does it feel like a soldier? sailor? - this is Photoshop. The silhouette is black, without any reflections, glare, etc.

[Karayakupovo]

Actually, the PDS service operates on ships and they are on duty with weapons. We were also on duty on the ship (back in the early 80s), though with 4 machine guns each (at KTOF). When in a drift, grenades were constantly thrown overboard, and at night Iwashi jammed in the rays of searchlights.

[Teplohod]

To Turks, such a character, with a great desire, can appear on the territory of, for example, the Russian embassy, ​​on the wing of a Russian civilian aircraft, in the bazaar, in the closet and under the bed.

[Mountain shooter]

Well, even if not Photoshop (I do not know of such a form of clothing in which a person stands with a "Needle" in his hands), well worth it, he trains in target grabs. Where did they shoot from, I wonder? From the deck? The angle is such as if not a small boat was sailing in a parallel course.
In general, after the demonstration of "friendship" by Erdogan, during the passage of the straits at the time of our ships to declare full combat readiness.
And here is just a "body" with MANPADS in hand. Duck is "fried". Not flying.

[KOH]

Yes, in general, everything is not clear with the snapshot, in my photoshop, firstly what kind of anti-aircraft gunner’s clothes are? ... Secondly, another dolphin fighter thinks unconstrainedly in the shot sector, maybe he’ll smudge the face ...)))))

[PatriotKZ]

Photoshop is 100% sure.

[samara-58]

Well, what is edik scary ?! Do not want to sit on the count? .. And you have to!

[ARES623]

The whining of the Turks is all the more strange because American destroyers, stuffed with anti-aircraft missiles, much more powerful than Igla MANPADS, are constantly dangling across the straits. This is just an excuse to moan for no real reason. There are two more universal 57mm machines, with great capabilities. Why don't they cry? Rave....

[rotmistr60]

turned out to be a representative of the German edition "Bild"

Again, the German media are tearing one place for themselves in order to curry favor with the "omnipotent", who long ago, pointing to Russia, gave the command "Fas". Germans, Germans, have you really lost your memory?

[Belarus]

I watched one talk show in which one Turk included accusations against a Ukrainian fool and said: what are you saying, you weren’t in that hospital, you only know all this from the press. You yourself weren’t there, everything you say is not true. About the Turkish flag at the Turkish checkpoint it was said that could shoot a video (flag) in Moscow and mount a video (I don’t lie and do not invent it). In short, the Turks with Ukrainian apparently roots.
And all the accusations against Turkey were like that, well, there were still words that Turkey wants peace, that Turkey loves Russians and blah blah blah.
And what about European hamsters, Turkey keeps them behind something threatening the flow of refugees. Oh, I apologize that the United States through Turkey keeps Europe threatening to increase the flow of refugees.

[askort154]

Another fake! A woman’s face is visible through a magnifying glass. Apparently the correspondent posed in front of the camera. The location could be anywhere, and Erdogan is likened to a bazaar woman.

[dchegrinec]

All our "well-wishers" will use every opportunity to prick. And they will not see their logs in the eye until we give a hint.

[leo3972]

I wonder what our sailors do on board in their greatcoats.

[Masya masya]

"Davutoglu stated that" Turkey no longer intends to send its military to Bashik. " and less too ...

[BARKHAN]

"Any lie repeated 20 times becomes true" - J.Gebels
Turks will never become Europeans, and will never be Oriental people. Nobody will consider them as their own. And they will only use them for their own purposes.

[Gray 43]

Nonsense, not a photo! Where, then, is the S-400 on deck? ))) And the deployed "Poplar"? I don't believe her ...

[Gray 43]

Nonsense, not a photo! Where, then, is the S-400 on deck? ))) And the deployed "Poplar"? I don't believe her ...

[Semen Semyonitch]

“Indignation at the fact that on board the landing ship Caesar Kunikov, sailing through the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, a Russian soldier was seen“ with a grenade launcher in his hands ”.
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Russian soldier? With a grenade launcher? What the hell? It seemed to you. It was MANPADS ...

[Almatinets]

Photoshop is not completed, the same with two buckets is not enough to prove that Russia is buying oil from ISIS

[srha]

I watched the video of their news - editing! And it’s very bad. We inserted a corrected freeze frame in the video news - there is absolutely no movement except sliding the camera up for several seconds, and this is at sea on a moving ship. Moreover, in this frame, the colors of the mounted militant do not coincide with the adjacent military, but should - the Russian army is painted in accordance with uniform rules. Lighting and shadows do not match, so the mounted warrior is also very dark. Where did the deep shadow come from on the action movie without the sun and the highlight (glare) of the sea at all, it’s not at all the case in front of the soldier - it’s not at all clear, because the mast is closer in plan and the sun is on the other side. And a uniform like a bathrobe - apparently the Turks are waving ...

[kartalovkolya]

What else can you expect from patients in ward 6? And the gentlemen admins do not interfere with being more attentive and not publishing any frank "shnyaga", and we do not need to be carried on for any delirium and promote its authors!

[nagel_Oz]

Good day!
This is a military ship, and it is "sharpened" for all sorts of. actions, even assuming that this is just a fake, it is important to know - any warship can carry on board "military hardware" that is not subject to conventions, agreements and treaties. Where are the obligations of our country not to carry "needles" on a military board in the Bosphorus ?! In my opinion this is just another stuffing, for the euro .. suckers

[lazma3]

Something looks like a photo montage. Near a standing soldier it is clearly visible that the uniform is green and everything is in color. And this one with MANPADS is in black for some reason.

[Things]

Why is it suddenly a "fighter with MANPADS" on the deck of a ship in an overcoat (or cloak), in theory, after all, in a pea coat should be ...

[lazma3]

And by the way, judging by the photo, the fighter with MANPADS is wearing a greatcoat. It’s strange for the current Russian army. The greatcoat has long been canceled.

[nivander]

it's not MANPADS, it's such a tricky spinning

[dashnak]

vsegolish combat guard

[dedBoroded]

Send an extract to the Turks from the combat training plan. They say we don't know anything, we are not threatening anyone, just at the time of "H" we are working on the program, and the Bosphorus is for decoration. and all business)))

[Ruswolf]

Our Foreign Ministry must definitely give an answer to Turkey that this measure is aimed at protecting Russian ships from Turkish aircraft!
And then suddenly they will confuse our ships with a flying Dutchman.

[ioann1]

This is already psychosis. As if this someone with something similar to "MANPADS" and he rises on a cruise ship ... what nonsense! Yes, this is a warship !! and it is completely made of weapons and is filled with armed men - military, cannons and missiles !! Does this fact bother the Turks?

[Gormenghast]

Well done Turks Right in the footsteps of amers are going. An armed invasion of foreign territory is "increased interaction". For me they are notorious "humanitarian bombing", not less.

[colonel manuch]

A complete "linden", the Bosphorus passed repeatedly, it is warm there now and in an overcoat, even on the upper bridge the fighter will not stand. Well, as for the Turks in Iraq, I don’t think that they will leave, they didn’t come in for that, they now care about the Mujahideen with more advanced MANPADS along the route of our "air bridge" to place, and in the event of a further escalation of the conflict with Russia, - to put up their own air defense systems. They will do any mean things, Russia annoyed them hard!

[Avantageur]

Yes, this is an obvious fake. Like this one...

[Santjaga_Garka]

As usual, terrorists on the streets are a different matter, these are our citizens, they can do anything!

[Nasty]

Against the background of a fairly bright control room and a neighboring soldier, the passenger with the pipe is too dark. Why? Why, at above-zero temperatures, “overcoat” (if that’s what it is)? What kind of strange non-statutory “hat” is this? A very strange play of light and shadow.
The photo is not credible.

[Old old]

...with Daesh (ISIS) terrorists.

What kind of Islamic State rebranding is this? Daesh is an Arabic abbreviation, in Russia the state language is Russian and the abbreviation for the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant sounds like ISIS. International English-language ISIS.
Why and why is the abbreviation alien to the Russian language being intensively pushed into the media space?

[Avantageur]

Perhaps in this way they want to somehow offend the feelings of terrorists...

Daesh is just one letter different from the Arabic word, which sounds offensive to members of the group. This word is translated as “trampling” or “trampling.” Abbreviations in Arabic are not at all as popular as in Russian or English. Terrorists do not like it when the “state” that is sacred to them is called some incomprehensible fictitious word. In territory controlled by the Islamic State, people can have their tongues cut out for saying Daesh in relation to the caliphate. Since the abbreviation insults terrorists, that means that’s what they should be called.

[TOR2]

And it’s not a shame to start more scandals with such bullshit! It’s a fake and clumsily made. Look how the light falls on a soldier standing at the fence and a man with a MANPADS. This is how Lavrov’s phrase comes to mind.

[mirrorfax]

Guys, as a person who has been working in Photoshop and similar programs for a very long time, I will say that the photo with MANPADS is a bare photo montage, and, judging by the quality of cutting out the figure, it was taken by a first-grader who was a poor student. This is just some kind of kindergarten, not an installation. Such “photo documents” cannot evoke anything other than laughter and a feeling of deep compassion for the moron photographer who created this “miracle.”

[Alfizik]

Where did they see the grenade launcher? This is our bagpipes.

[CRASH]

I understand from the photo that this is a woman in a hijab with a MANPADS, I think what kind of “wife of ISIS” is that?

[AKS-U]

I don't understand these Turks. Are they ready to give us the territories of the Empire with Erzurum and Ararat?

[Kapralwdw]

The photo looks like photoshop!

[Lestat]

This is what the American school of foreign policy means. How a Russian plane flew somewhere near the border and even if it allegedly violated it for a few seconds, it was shot down by a fighter that had already been prepared in advance and created a stink all over the world. And how about the constant violation of the borders of Syria, Iraq, Greece by Turkish planes and now such a brazen invasion with equipment without permission - and how it should be. Enchanting arrogance and hypocrisy.

[Lestat]

And am I the only one who thinks that if the sailors on the ship in the photo are wearing a helmet, armor and a GREEN uniform, then they cannot change into black or civilian clothes if they wish? Is there a body in some kind of black robe? Maybe I don’t even understand the naval uniform... And what rule prohibits weapons on a warship? He didn’t shoot - he just stood there with MANPADS, or maybe now, in order not to irritate the Turkish Navy during the passage of the Bosphorus, the stationary artillery and machine guns should be dismantled and hidden in the hold?

[Sasha_Sar]

On the BDK pr 775 there are Igla-2 MANPADS on staff, and during the passage of a narrowness (strait) they sound a “combat alarm” and a “fighter” registered according to “BT” grabs this and the “Igla” from the arsenal and runs to his BP. ./2, where to remain until BG No. 2 is announced. Only before this was normal for the Turks and they didn’t take it personally, but after Putin’s speech about “rotten tomatoes and...” they will “squeal.” But this is their problem; no one will rewrite the Navy Charter for them.

[Roxa]

=Not Old Old]"Curiously, in the late 70s, Turkey announced that it was considering closing the passage through the Bosphorus to the Mediterranean for Soviet warships.
To this statement, comrade Gromyko Andrei Andreevich (USSR Foreign Minister from 1957 to 1985) told American journalists at a cocktail party at the White House that a passage to the Mediterranean Black Sea Fleet of the USSR would require only a couple of volleys of missiles.
As a result of this, in addition to the Bosphorus, two more passages will appear in the Mediterranean, but, alas, there will be no Istanbul.
After these words, Turkey never again raised the issue of closing the Bosphorus for the warships of the USSR. "

They were afraid of the USSR and therefore no one could object; Russia does not yet have such authority

[SLAVA]

Strange photo - a fighter with MANPADS in an overcoat?

[SLAVA]

Quote: SLAVA

Strange photo - a fighter with MANPADS in an overcoat?

))))) it turns out that they have already spoken about this

[solovey]

Of the prophecies of Cosmas, which should come true in the future - the defeat of the Turks, the liberation of Constantinople (Tsargrad in Russian). The former capital of the Orthodox Byzantine Empire. In 1453, the invaders renamed it Istanbul. Made the capital of the Ottoman Empire.
“The Turks will reach the six-mile zone,” Cosma said. “Of these, one third will die, one third will believe in Christ, and one third will go to Kokkini Milla (a legendary place somewhere in Messopotamia)”
Paisius Svyatorets continued the prophetic tradition of St. Cosmas. He declared that the City (Constantinople) would be given to the Greeks as a result of the war between Russia and Turkey. Turks, Paisius repeatedly said, will be destroyed and erased from the map forever. Because it is a country that does not have God's blessing. It will be divided into three to four parts.
Here is what the old man said when one day he was hotly asked about the events in the former Yugoslavia: “Today, for the sake of the Turks, Europeans are creating independent states with a Muslim population (Bosnia, Herzegovina). However, I see that in the future they will delicately divide Turkey itself: Kurds and Armenians will rise, and Europeans will demand recognition of the independence and the right of these peoples to self-determination. They will then tell Turkey: “We once did you a favor, now in a similar way should the independence of the Kurds and the Armenians.”
He also deciphered the mysterious “six-mile” of Cosmas. “Once, writes the spiritual child Paisius, I met him somewhat embarrassed and upset. He treated me and began a conversation himself:
- Some came here and started telling me that the war will begin, the Turks will enter Greece and drive us six miles to Corinth (in this way they interpreted the prophecy of Cosmas of Aetolia with their spoiled thoughts) ... Although I don’t like talking about the prophecies, they forced me to explain to them the meaning of the six-mile that St. Cosmas speaks of, and this is nothing but the six miles of the sea shelf. This is the topic because of which we have been biting with Turkey in recent years and because of which, in the end, we’ll “clutch”. However, they will not enter Hellas: they will advance only these six miles, and then they will find great disaster from the north, as the scriptures say, and all their plans will collapse. ”
- From the north - from Russia?
- Yes. The elder believed in our country: “Today the Russians are going through hard times ... But you see, they will cope with difficulties and will again create a strong state.” (M. Rakovalis

[denkastro]

Maybe I don’t understand something, but why is the man with the PDS dressed so strangely? Kind of out of shape, or something. Cheap photoshop.

[gattus]

For any ship outside its territorial waters, the principle of extraterritoriality applies. So, at least let the machine guns be cleaned. The main thing is not to shoot in all directions. For some reason, NATO warships, fully armed, do not bother anyone when passing into the Black Sea.

[Signore Tomato]

And right!!
Why should Turkish soldiers fight against their own brothers from Daesh???