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Turkey declares that "it no longer intends to send its troops to Iraq" and expresses indignation at the "Russian threat to Turkish civil aviation"

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Information Agency Bloomberg reports that Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu announced Turkey’s desire to strengthen "interaction with Iraq for anti-terrorism purposes." At the same time, the Turkish Prime Minister added that "Turkey does not intend to cast doubt on the sovereignty of Iraq and the territorial integrity of the country."


Earlier, the Turkish authorities said they were going to send an additional contingent of military personnel of the Turkish Armed Forces to the Iraqi city of Bashik in the province of Ninawa. On the eve, Davutoglu said that “Turkey no longer intends to send its military to Bashik. At the same time, the head of the Turkish Cabinet added that "Turkey had previously informed the Iraqi authorities about the assistance that official Ankara is going to provide to the Iraqi military" in the form of training and instruction in combating terrorists DAISH (ISIL).

Meanwhile, the Turkish authorities expressed, as reported by the BBC, “indignation at the fact that a Russian soldier was“ seen with a grenade launcher ”on board the landing ship“ Caesar Kunikov ”en route through the Bosporus and the Dardanelles. Turkish Foreign Minister Cavusoglu called this a “provocation”:

If a soldier on a Russian military ship parades a grenade launcher or something else, like air defense missiles, then this is pure provocation.


Turkey declares that "it no longer intends to send its troops to Iraq" and expresses indignation at the "Russian threat to Turkish civil aviation"


The first who drew attention to the man with MANPADS in his hands, was the representative of the German edition of "Bild". In Turkey, after the publication of the pictures, they said that the Russian military "are threatening the civil air fleet with their provocative actions."

It is strange that neither Bild journalists nor the Turkish authorities express outrage and fear that terrorists stroll through the streets in Turkey, who are not only cured in Turkish clinics, but also arming, equipping and preparing for new terrorist actions. But the protection of the Russian ship caused a strange reaction.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 7 December 2015 06: 45 New
    0
    And hard to believe!
    1. Dembel77
      Dembel77 7 December 2015 06: 59 New
      89
      Erdogan ruined - now all of Turkey will answer. Now they will see a threat to themselves in every Russian soldier. Rightly scared! We will not forgive the betrayal, it is impossible to forgive!
      “The soul that committed betrayal perceives all unexpectedness as the beginning of retribution” (Fazil Iskander)
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      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 7 December 2015 07: 27 New
        17
        From the text of the article
        "Turkey does not intend to question the sovereignty of Iraq and the territorial integrity of the country."

        And the Turkish troops, without an invitation from the Iraqi leadership, arbitrarily pressed themselves into Iraq and arbitrarily occupied Iraqi territory - on the TANKS!
        And, most importantly, they are NOT going to leave there !!!
        Erdogan is definitely naughty - and for good it will definitely NOT end for him!
        1. Mr.
          Mr. Fun 7 December 2015 08: 03 New
          11
          This of course does not fit into any framework. Erdogan smoked something strong along the way, because of his actions, it seems that he had definitely gone for cuckoo. And so - not weak! It’s not a question to bring down a Russian plane ... It’s not a question to fall into Iraq on tanks, it’s not at all ... I’ve completely lost my fear ?! He thinks the United States will fit in for him, probably. Insert a large piston and drive them into the neck from Iraq. These framers think that they will not tumble, and do what they want ...
          Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu announced Turkey’s desire to strengthen "cooperation with Iraq for counter-terrorism purposes"

          That is, now it is so called when the military of another country falls into the country without an invitation.
          1. WKS
            WKS 7 December 2015 09: 32 New
            +7
            expresses indignation at the "Russian threat to Turkish civil aviation"

            From such idiots as Erdogan and this smiling Davutoglu, one can now expect any stupidity. For example, a helicopter attack on our warship. Here is a fighter with MANPADS and put in this case, not to use the S-400 in the straits.
            1. Starley from the south
              Starley from the south 7 December 2015 23: 48 New
              +1
              Quote: wks
              Here is a fighter with MANPADS and put on this case

              What kind of MANPADS are they? The Turks, but the Germans, too, with poor eyesight, let them turn to the optometrist! Is it not visible that this is an ordinary stick? .. After all, when the head off, the vision does not remain on the sidelines!
              1. WAP Master
                WAP Master 8 December 2015 13: 15 New
                +2
                I do not agree ... This is not a stick. This is a 3D psychological microscope of a new generation, for observing Erdogan’s political hysteria.
          2. pettabyte
            pettabyte 7 December 2015 21: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: Mr.Fun
            That is, now it is so called when the military of another country falls into the country without an invitation.

            This is sodomite hypocrisy (tolerance). Well and yes, war is a type of interaction, they know how to lie. In the style of the USA.
          3. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 7 December 2015 21: 59 New
            +2
            It would be necessary to strengthen cooperation with Ukraine in the Donbass according to the Turkish scenario! And let the NATO Allies try something to blather on the subject of sovereignty!
          4. unfriendly
            unfriendly 9 December 2015 13: 21 New
            0
            I am not a politician or an officer, but my opinion is that the president and prime minister of Turkey should be disposed of. As our sovereign says: “Responsibility must be personal.” Well, to everything else, this will help to avoid not only repetition, but also accusations against Russia - a brick can fall on anyone’s head and we’re out of business. At the same time, the North Atlantic will be more circumspect - there are a lot of bricks and icicles - you never know ...
        2. aksakal
          aksakal 7 December 2015 08: 54 New
          28
          Quote: Tatiana
          And, most importantly, they are NOT going to leave there !!!
          Erdogan is definitely naughty - and for good it will definitely NOT end for him!

          why did Erdogan also do this? There is a curious version. After 24 hours, the deadline for the withdrawal of Erdogan troops from Iraq expires (yesterday it seemed like Iraq gave 48 hours). Of course, Erdogan will not withdraw troops, Iraq will have to declare war on Turkey. But in fact there will be no military operations against Turkey - Iraq simply does not have any resources at all. It turns out that Turkey will formally be at war, although no one will fight against it in fact. What do we have in the Montreux Convention? And anyway, isn’t that why a tank platoon was brought into Iraq at all? In general, beautiful in its course laughing
          It is clear that Russia will not declare it because of this. It is clear that it will be necessary to negotiate with Iran and Iraq as the culprit of this catastrophe on an alternative route for providing Russian troops in Syria, while by air, and there, as the territory is cleared, and land caravans (again, ambushes, like in Afghanistan?). In general, in this situation, by all means, the task of controlling the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits arises before Russia, for life shows that Russia will be locked up in the Black Sea for any reason and at any time, and how not to violate the Montreux Convention technical, it costs one or two, now we will observe this. Does Russia like this state of affairs? Not. So, the straits from Turkey must be taken away, since they can’t use it. But how to take away from Turkey, while not giving the Kurds what they ask and the Armenians for what they dream about? Yes, and the Greeks too somehow offend ... So, Turkey is doomed as doomed? I would like to quickly, until the business in the Ottoman frenzy did not
          1. umah
            umah 7 December 2015 09: 08 New
            +8
            why did Erdogan also do this?

            My version: then, why, and our drying was shot down, to ensure the transportation of oil. ISIS was supplied in two ways - through Turkey and through northern Iraq. Now that the supply (and oil export) through Turkey is in jeopardy, the Turks have decided to activate the second corridor, through Iraq. Troops were deployed to organize a bridgehead, transfer militants and ensure oil transportation.
          2. Corsair
            Corsair 7 December 2015 09: 33 New
            +6
            Quote: aksakal
            What do we have in the Montreux Convention?

            laughing The Montreux convention says that if Turkey is a belligerent, it is nevertheless obliged to let through all the ships of countries with which it is not at war. If the other side is at war, while Turkey is not a participant in this war, Turkey must also pass all ships.
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut 7 December 2015 10: 13 New
              +4
              If Turkey overlaps the Bosphorus, then the question of the territories adjacent to it from the resolved and guaranteed by the international community turns into an open one. But the trick is that the strait is a tidbit not only for Russia and Greece, but also for any NATO + US country. It wouldn’t work like that with Hussein. First, the Allies persuaded him to invade Kuwait, and then used this as an excuse to attack Iraq themselves. It can also happen here. Having provoked a large-scale conflict between the Russian Federation and Turkey, it’s time to come to the dessert ourselves in order to capture the strait.
              1. Old old
                Old old 7 December 2015 20: 19 New
                +5
                Maybe a bike, or maybe not.
                "Curiously, in the late 70s, Turkey said it was considering closing the passage through the Bosphorus to the Mediterranean for the warships of the Soviet Union.
                To this statement, comrade Gromyko Andrei Andreevich (USSR Foreign Minister from 1957 to 1985) told American journalists at a cocktail party at the White House that a passage to the Mediterranean Black Sea Fleet of the USSR would require only a couple of volleys of missiles.
                As a result of this, in addition to the Bosphorus, two more passages will appear in the Mediterranean, but, alas, there will be no Istanbul.
                After these words, Turkey never again raised the question of closing the Bosphorus to the warships of the USSR. "
                Source - http://rusdozor.ru/2015/11/30/kak-gromyko-bosfor-zashhitil/
              2. pettabyte
                pettabyte 7 December 2015 22: 01 New
                +1
                Quote: Mahmut
                It can also happen here. Having provoked a large-scale conflict between the Russian Federation and Turkey, it’s time to come to the dessert ourselves in order to capture the strait.


                It is believed that this will be ours in full readiness.
                In other matters, the United States is Turkey’s pimp.
          3. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 7 December 2015 09: 37 New
            +2
            The version is interesting, but Iraq, it is not necessary to declare war, may be bombed by this limited contingent, they may not even get there, it’s so close, and they will most likely leave.
          4. Gomel
            Gomel 7 December 2015 11: 14 New
            +2
            a very very plausible version, however, in this case, Turkey will be considered an aggressor, and this is a slightly different scenario in the geopolitics of the straits.
            Let's look at the development of the situation.

            "chlamydas" as they put it, on a fighter - it looks like a navy pea jacket or something like that

            Does anyone identify the MANPADS brand? is in service?
            because if photoshop is very literate - a place behind the mast in the shade against the sun is selected, the figure is maximally shaded. But by the way, in addition to this photo, there are others ... too much photoshop in this case. So probably not a fake. And the soldier was brought to the deck just to prevent provocations. and then boats cut off either submarines, or "civilian" drones fly over the Bosporus ... yeah.
          5. -Traveller-
            -Traveller- 7 December 2015 12: 37 New
            +3
            Quote: aksakal
            What we have in the Montreux Convention

            "Article 21
            In the event that Turkey considers itself to be at risk of imminent military danger, it will have the right to apply the provisions of Article 20 of this Convention (During the war, when Turkey is a belligerent ... the passage of warships will depend entirely on the discretion of the Turkish government.) . ... Turkey may not allow the ships of the state to exercise this right, whose position would cause the application of this article. If the Turkish government takes advantage of the opportunities provided to it by the above paragraph first, it will notify the High Contracting Parties, as well as the Secretary General of the League of Nations. If the Council of the League of Nations decides by a two-thirds majority that the measures taken by Turkey in this way are not justified and if the opinion of the majority of the High Contracting Parties to this Convention is the same, then the Turkish Government undertakes to cancel these measures, as well as those that would be adopted by virtue of Article 6 of this Convention. "

            I am certainly not an expert in international and maritime law, but nevertheless I am able to read and analyze.
            thus, if Turkey considers itself to be in danger (quite subjectively, isn’t it), then it has the right to close the straits for the military courts of the country of danger. after that, Turkey must notify (not ask permission, but notify) the League of Nations and the Secretary General (now the United Nations and Ban Ki-moon) and the signatories of the convention (Bulgaria, France, Great Britain, Greece, Japan, Romania, Turkey, Russia, Yugoslavia).
            and if at the same time 10 out of 15 members of the UN Security Council and 5 out of 9 Montreux participants decide that Turkey is not right, then the Turks will have to reopen the straits.
            For 2015, the composition of the UN Security Council is the United Kingdom, USA, France, China, Russia, Lithuania, Jordan, Nigeria, Chad, Chile, Angola, Venezuela, Malaysia, New Zealand, Spain.
            for 2016, the composition of the UN Security Council is the United Kingdom, USA, France, China, Russia, Ukraine, Japan, Senegal, Egypt, Uruguay, Angola, Venezuela, Malaysia, New Zealand, Spain.
            Now guess who on these lists those 10 countries that vote against.
          6. Orionvit
            Orionvit 7 December 2015 21: 58 New
            +3
            The Turks somehow do not understand, or pretend that during the existence of the Ottoman Empire and Turkey in general, the Turks have so spoiled their relations with their neighbors that the Turks simply have no closest allies. And the Armenians, and Greeks, and Bulgarians, and Kurds, and Persians, now Iraqis, and even Serbs with Hungarians, on occasion, this Turkey will be torn to pieces. All peoples where the Turks were have their own accounts for them. So if a mess happens, then the Turks count on indulgence or mercy is simply stupid.
          7. Starley from the south
            Starley from the south 8 December 2015 00: 04 New
            +2
            Erdogan has long decided to aggravate. It didn’t work out in Crimea - our energy bridge was quickly built, to go into Syria - you can get it by face. So they decided to enter defenseless Iraq. There is nothing to doubt, soon Turkish or other workers will appear there, they will build an oil pipeline. And so that the Kurds did not interfere with this, troops were introduced.
            And in general, in a strategic plan, it is necessary to promote the creation of a new state - Kurdistan. But Turkey must be finished, it is not only for us, it causes not only serious problems to all its neighbors, but it has committed and is committing crimes such as genocide against them! Turkey, as a state throughout its history, has shown that one can expect from it any, worst crime to all, without exception. There was only one normal ruler - Ataturk. But the exception confirms the rule.
          8. Lieutenant colonel
            Lieutenant colonel 8 December 2015 01: 40 New
            0
            Aksakal - you know how to read other people's thoughts ?! belay
            This is precisely the scenario that comes to mind. With the exception of the fact that Turkey should close the straits to all countries. But Turkey does not fight with all countries. Well, Russia is not a party to the conflict. So it’s kind of written in the concept?
        3. nemets
          nemets 7 December 2015 17: 04 New
          +1
          let the Iraqi government only ask us to protect sovereignty, these tanks will not even be allowed to move
        4. Egor123
          Egor123 9 December 2015 16: 32 New
          0
          Well, I think Iraq will soon strengthen the army and drive them out of there.
          There are already our t-90 decided to purchase wink
          And in general, it is surprising that Turkey is training the Kurds, against whom they fought in Syria ... Although the United States did not want this. They are strange fool
      3. Armored optimist
        Armored optimist 7 December 2015 07: 28 New
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        A fighter dressed up in some strange mantle. Not ours, I would say. Photoshop?
        1. Good me
          Good me 7 December 2015 07: 52 New
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          Quote: armored optimist
          A fighter dressed up in some strange mantle. Not ours, I would say. Photoshop?

          It seems you are right ...

          Especially if you approximately compare the outlines of the figures in these photos.
          1. umah
            umah 7 December 2015 09: 16 New
            +7
            The figures are very similar. Likely the following throw-in will be the message "Russia carries terrorists on its ships and supplies them with MANPADS."
          2. Hyppopotut
            Hyppopotut 7 December 2015 09: 47 New
            +2
            Withdrew from the language ...
          3. lukke
            lukke 7 December 2015 09: 48 New
            0
            Black sailor overcoat and nothing more. The photo just has an unfortunate angle - a plaque of the belt that would give a glimpse of the sailor covered his elbow because holds MANPADS, not a grenade launcher. But with the headdress of a sailor - violation of the uniform came out)
            1. provincial
              provincial 7 December 2015 10: 44 New
              +1
              on the chelma’s head, a new uniform for sailors according to Yuldashkin.
              1. uragan114
                uragan114 7 December 2015 17: 43 New
                0
                Yes, an ordinary helmet. It’s just standing in the shadow of the mast, and here’s the light.
          4. lukke
            lukke 7 December 2015 09: 48 New
            0
            Black sailor overcoat and nothing more. The photo just has an unfortunate angle - a plaque of the belt that would give a glimpse of the sailor covered his elbow because holds MANPADS, not a grenade launcher. But with the headdress of a sailor - violation of the uniform came out)
        2. cniza
          cniza 7 December 2015 08: 02 New
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          Quote: armored optimist
          A fighter dressed up in some strange mantle. Not ours, I would say. Photoshop?



          Very strange and suspicious photo, photo toad definitely.
          1. sa-zz
            sa-zz 7 December 2015 08: 09 New
            +5
            This is Fake, and - primitive.
            But for the West, just the proof of "aggression"
            1. Darkoff
              Darkoff 7 December 2015 08: 51 New
              +1
              If a soldier on a Russian military ship parades a grenade launcher or something else, like air defense missiles, then this is pure provocation.


              Fake is not fake. And there, probably now all our ships are in full readiness for everything. This is a defense against a possible stab in the back.
              If our plane was shot down, then where is the guarantee that the ship will not be tried to sink? Including from the air.
          2. anfil
            anfil 7 December 2015 09: 12 New
            +1
            This is a phantom, even otherworldly forces guard us. winked
            1. pettabyte
              pettabyte 7 December 2015 22: 03 New
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              Quote: anfil
              This is a phantom, even otherworldly forces guard us.

              The main thing is that phantoms in cloak tents, helmets and with PPSh do not go next. I will be ashamed in front of them for piercing the country.
          3. 72jora72
            72jora72 7 December 2015 11: 11 New
            0
            Quote: cniza
            Quote: armored optimist
            A fighter dressed up in some strange mantle. Not ours, I would say. Photoshop?



            Very strange and suspicious photo, photo toad definitely.

            It is strange that Putin himself is not with MANPADS --- flaw
        3. ver_
          ver_ 7 December 2015 08: 13 New
          +3
          ... on YouTube this figure was in Syria ...- photoshop ...
        4. Amurets
          Amurets 7 December 2015 08: 55 New
          0
          Not Photoshop, but Photoshop. He’s wearing perfume-like clothes in Afghanistan.
        5. kitamo
          kitamo 7 December 2015 09: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: armored optimist
          A fighter dressed up in some strange mantle. Not ours, I would say. Photoshop?


          come on ... ordinary overcoat ... I'm still surprised that the balalaika was not drawn
          1. 1rl141
            1rl141 7 December 2015 10: 24 New
            +4
            What is an overcoat? Who walks on a ship in overcoats? Yes, and in the latitudes of the Mediterranean Sea ... And a hat, probably with a slit for the eyes, who will give the fighter?
            Specialists, look at the outlines of MANPADS, what type?
            Do we have one in service?
            This is pure toad. For a gifted electorate.
            1. kitamo
              kitamo 7 December 2015 11: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: 1rl141
              What is an overcoat? Who walks on a ship in overcoats? Yes, and in the latitudes of the Mediterranean Sea ... And a hat, probably with a slit for the eyes, who will give the fighter?


              what do you take so seriously? about the balalaika too seriously taken?
              but the hats with slots are not visible there ... although this hat is not very similar to a cap or a cap ...
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 7 December 2015 12: 05 New
            +4
            Quote: kitamo
            come on ... ordinary overcoat ... I'm still surprised that the balalaika was not drawn

            Indeed, how do our ships go without balalaika and a bear with a matryoshka doll in the seas? They and the General Staff of the Russian Federation looks something like this
            1. cap
              cap 7 December 2015 13: 00 New
              0
              Nyrobsky (1) SU Today, 12:05 PM ↑ New

              Quote: kitamo
              come on ... ordinary overcoat ... I'm still surprised that the balalaika was not drawn

              Indeed, how do our ships go without balalaika and a bear with a matryoshka doll in the seas? They and the General Staff of the Russian Federation looks something like this

              Class +++ laughing
            2. Sorokin
              Sorokin 10 December 2015 05: 26 New
              0
              And where is the tub with cabbage and vodka on ice?
      4. maks-101
        maks-101 7 December 2015 08: 12 New
        0
        Erdogan today is a monkey with a grenade. There is no trust and never will be.
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      6. Allitet
        Allitet 7 December 2015 21: 40 New
        0
        When Vladimir Putin spoke about the downed SU-24 in Turkey: in that tone he spoke only once. In 1999, when the terrorists staged an explosion in the Moscow metro. Where are these terrorists now?
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    4. Kathernik
      Kathernik 7 December 2015 08: 25 New
      +3
      Photo from MANPADS - fake. If you look closely. And clothes and shadows. It feels like they cut it out of a newspaper and stuck it next to it. And all this is being done, including Erdogan .....
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 7 December 2015 08: 58 New
      +1
      Yes, the Turks themselves are not a gift, but in fact, why when passing through the straits to the superstructure of a fighter with MANPADS? It was possible to build a crew on the upper deck with weapons, hold demonstrations in hand-to-hand combat, perform the Varangian choir so that the Turks could do it out of fear and make another protest note. But why? Actions must be secretive and effective so that the enemy shudders when he is already "raped" laughing
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 7 December 2015 09: 37 New
        0
        Quote: marlin1203
        But why? Actions must be secretive and effective so that the enemy shudders when he is already "raped"

        lol Do you suggest mines to sink quietly with remote control? it is possible even with SBCH ...
      2. Ramzaj99
        Ramzaj99 7 December 2015 12: 30 New
        0
        Quote: marlin1203
        Yes, the Turks themselves are not a gift, but in fact, why when passing through the straits to the superstructure of a fighter with MANPADS?

        The same thing has already been said ........ Why should bombers cover fighters, because there is nobody and nothing to shoot them !! ??
        This is the work of the military. They should include any, even the most fantastic option. If a proverb is for a civilian: It’s better to re-watch than not to watch, just words. That for the military is a guide to action.
      3. your1970
        your1970 7 December 2015 12: 45 New
        0
        therefore, demonstratively, and put-so that there were no stupid thoughts ..
      4. Proud.
        Proud. 7 December 2015 18: 23 New
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        Quote: marlin1203
        "Varyag" to sing in chorus,

        Moreover, in the original language. In German. The Turkish Turk finally got it wrong laughing
    6. Vikings
      Vikings 7 December 2015 11: 14 New
      0
      In fact, there is nothing strange and unexpected! All
      as old as the World. The goals and objectives are the same, only the methods have changed
      and approaches have become cynical and ruthless. Facts published
      in article, biased and subjective towards Russia! All
      the facts above are far-fetched!
    7. python2a
      python2a 7 December 2015 15: 15 New
      0
      Davutogly’s statement is an interference in the internal valleys of Russia, since the ship is Russian territory. And on our territory we are free to do what we consider necessary.
    8. SAXA.SHURA
      SAXA.SHURA 8 December 2015 20: 10 New
      0
      And that there is no anti-aircraft cover on board such a ship, what kind of horseradish they make people laugh, you can get rid of it, there is a modern warship, and a soldier with MANPADS covering it on the deck, you would have put it with a slingshot.
    9. OlegLex
      OlegLex 9 December 2015 13: 20 New
      +1
      Yes, indeed, if you pay attention to the fact that, according to the proportions, the anti-aircraft gun stands a few meters from the soldier in the foreground, who is well lit by the sun. then we can draw preliminary conclusions that the photo is fake.
      arguments:
      the anti-aircraft gun is in the shadow of which there basically cannot be, the mast will not give such a thick shadow that would cover both the shooter and the MANPADS that he holds in his hands
      anti-aircraft gunner’s position, he is clearly standing on a stationary surface and is clearly not ready to block longitudinal impulses, that is, he is not a sailor,
      and third, what kind of dress is it on his head? and what kind of mantle he is wearing, the fighter is clearly not dressed according to the Charter.
  2. Darkmor
    Darkmor 7 December 2015 06: 46 New
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    Everything can be expected from Turkish civil aviation.
    Suddenly, they decide that our ship crosses the Turkish border 5cm to the left of the fairway, and discharge an anti-ship missile into it.

    In general, their indignation is not clear. Well, standing on a military board is a military man with weapons;
    What does civil aviation have to do with it?
    And if he had SVD in his hands? Would the Turks immediately declare that he is preparing an attempt on Erdogan?
    And the sapper blade in the hands can be generally regarded as an attempt to bury the Bosphorus.
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    2. Teplohod
      Teplohod 7 December 2015 07: 31 New
      +2
      If the hype was raised, then someone needs it.
  3. Wolka
    Wolka 7 December 2015 06: 48 New
    +1
    and in the boy’s hands it’s like "Willow"
    1. Decathlon
      Decathlon 7 December 2015 06: 55 New
      +5
      And dressed in a greatcoat, no ?! repeat
      1. Polovtsian
        Polovtsian 7 December 2015 07: 17 New
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        Quote: Decathlon
        And dressed in a greatcoat, no ?!

        It would be more strange if he was dressed in colored shorts and the same T-shirt. And so he is dressed in our military uniform, which the Motherland gave, the sailor wears, especially since it is not very hot there now.
    2. Al_oriso
      Al_oriso 7 December 2015 08: 52 New
      +2
      and in the boy’s hands it’s like "Willow"

      It seems - yes, and as he begins to bomb all Tuption now! (described, but did not fix).
  4. alex-cn
    alex-cn 7 December 2015 06: 48 New
    +1
    The Turk was locked in a corner. Now they will bark and snarl for every reason ...
  5. oleg46
    oleg46 7 December 2015 06: 48 New
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    The one who did this photo collage was not paid, probably, the right amount. Therefore, he could not do his work as required. Something like this. lol But seriously seriously it stinks of provocation.
    1. Andrea
      Andrea 7 December 2015 07: 00 New
      +8
      What an ass, sorry, provocation! A ship is a sovereign territory, which I want to turn around. Nobody beeps when destroyers and frigates crawl up to the top stuffed with missile defense and air defense. I don’t need to put all the rotten eggs on me. where they should go.
      1. oleg46
        oleg46 7 December 2015 07: 11 New
        +3
        Quote: Andrea
        What an ass, sorry, provocation!

        You do not understand - I mean the provocation from the Turks. If there is an opportunity to make a photo montage, then why not make a video montage? hi
        1. Andrea
          Andrea 7 December 2015 07: 32 New
          +5
          And I understood exactly that. smile Even if the company with a MANPADS is standing, everyone should sit exactly — this is our territory.
          We are not breaking anything.
          1. oleg46
            oleg46 7 December 2015 08: 39 New
            +1
            Quote: Andrea
            And I understood exactly that. Even if the company with a MANPADS is standing, everyone should sit exactly — this is our territory.
            We don't break anything

            The same position ... laughing
        2. pettabyte
          pettabyte 7 December 2015 22: 08 New
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          Quote: oleg46
          You do not understand - I mean the provocation from the Turks. If there is an opportunity to make a photo montage, then why not make a video montage?

          More expensive, 1 frame (total) versus 30 or more (per second).
          And the more frames the greater the likelihood of a jamb-pale.
  6. ARES623
    ARES623 7 December 2015 06: 50 New
    +9
    "the Russian military" threatens the civilian fleet with their provocative actions. ""
    Since when did the civilian “air fleet” start flying at levels below 5000 meters? The anti-aircraft gunner, in this case, should be regarded as an indicator of mistrust in the host country, as a willingness to repel an attack by an air enemy in the territorial waters of Turkey.
  7. izya top
    izya top 7 December 2015 06: 50 New
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    Yes, no one (Turks) has yet threatened you yes
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 7 December 2015 08: 24 New
      +1
      Yes, our harness is not for detski :)
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 7 December 2015 08: 46 New
      0
      Looks like the grimy ones from that pelvis specifically screwed up that they frolic so much over them. And what about the seizures of our ships I have not heard anymore ...
  8. pvv113
    pvv113 7 December 2015 06: 57 New
    +4
    In Turkey, after the publication of the pictures, they said that the Russian military “threatened the civilian fleet with their provocative actions”

    It seems that the lessons of dill were not in vain. "Green men" will begin to appear soon
  9. inkass_98
    inkass_98 7 December 2015 06: 59 New
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    Some body in the Lapserdak stands on the upper deck with something like "Needles." Vague doubts gnaw me - the second warrior is clearly visible, namely the one who poses the “Threat to the Air Fleet” - blurred and in the shade. Is this already in the cloaks of our soldiers serving in clear sunny weather?
    1. Bazilevs
      Bazilevs 7 December 2015 23: 27 New
      +2
      Yes bullshit is all, this is a photo, but the main thing !!! what bothers me is what he said - “a threat to passenger planes”, did you plan to organize a provocation, fill up your plane with passengers and blame Russia as it was already, here the General Staff some measures need to be taken, since such chaos has gone ...
  10. en 45
    en 45 7 December 2015 07: 11 New
    +5
    At first glance it looks more like an ISIS ... Photoshop?
  11. Polovtsian
    Polovtsian 7 December 2015 07: 15 New
    +3
    In Turkey, after the publication of the pictures, they said that the Russian military "threatened the civilian air fleet with their provocative actions."
    It was not necessary to touch our Su24, then our ships would not have to go through the straits in full combat readiness to repulse the attack. That's the whole story ...
    And in general, since the Turkish leadership declares this:
    “Turkey does not intend to question the sovereignty of Iraq and the territorial integrity of the country”
    I’ll remind you that the territory of the ship is part of the territory of the state to which it belongs, this also applies to the airspace above it, so respect the sovereignty of Russia and we will not offend you ...
  12. Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 7 December 2015 07: 16 New
    +5
    This is a warship, they still have guns, missiles, dismantle them at the sight of the Turkish coast? Idiocy rolls over.
  13. press officer
    press officer 7 December 2015 07: 18 New
    +3
    and where is our flag on the ship ?????? no? strange ... but where is the bear next to the balalaika and vodka? belay not guys .. these are not ours yes ..he is in some kind of cloak .. recourse we don’t have enough of these photos! no you don’t have enough of our military intelligence data, and we don’t need your idiotic photos! soldier
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 7 December 2015 07: 44 New
      16
      How to order ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 7 December 2015 08: 28 New
        +3
        I liked it, inspired from the 60s of the last century. Thank. smile
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      3. Rock616
        Rock616 9 December 2015 02: 42 New
        0
        il so lol
        you will be surprised
  14. Svarog5570
    Svarog5570 7 December 2015 07: 23 New
    +5
    Soon they will wake up in a cold sweat for it will seem like ours nailed a shield on the gates of Istanbul laughing
  15. Taygerus
    Taygerus 7 December 2015 07: 23 New
    +1
    even hard to believe, most likely somewhere in the Internet took a photo
  16. afrikanez
    afrikanez 7 December 2015 07: 23 New
    +2
    Turkey has once again shown that it is not far gone from Ukraine fool Yes, actually from the states too laughing
  17. demo
    demo 7 December 2015 07: 27 New
    0
    But have we already gone through civil aviation options?
    Is such a development possible?
    How is it in Ukraine?
  18. Aleksander
    Aleksander 7 December 2015 07: 32 New
    +1
    If a soldier on a Russian military ship parades a grenade launcher or something else, like air defense missiles, then this is pure provocation.

    And the guns on Kunnikov, do not cause them a sense of provocation? belay
  19. Babai Balkan
    Babai Balkan 7 December 2015 07: 33 New
    +1
    ..the main thing is that under this basis the Erdogan sheep shouldn’t overwhelm some passenger ... maybe, Mr. ... nukes !!!
  20. Support
    Support 7 December 2015 07: 39 New
    +1
    Does it feel like a soldier? sailor? - this is Photoshop. The silhouette is black, without any reflections, glare, etc.
  21. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 7 December 2015 07: 46 New
    0
    Actually, the PDS service operates on ships and they are on duty with weapons. We were also on duty on the ship (back in the early 80s), though with 4 machine guns each (at KTOF). When in a drift, grenades were constantly thrown overboard, and at night Iwashi jammed in the rays of searchlights.
  22. Teplohod
    Teplohod 7 December 2015 07: 48 New
    0
    To Turks, such a character, with a great desire, can appear on the territory of, for example, the Russian embassy, ​​on the wing of a Russian civilian aircraft, in the bazaar, in the closet and under the bed.
  23. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 December 2015 07: 49 New
    +4
    Well, even if it’s not Photoshop (I don’t know the form of clothing in which a person stands with the “Needle” in his hands), well, he is training in capturing the target. And where did they shoot, interesting? From the deck? The perspective is as if it were not a small boat that was following a parallel course.
    In general, after the demonstration of "friendship" by Erdogan, when passing the straits at the time, our ships were ready to declare full combat readiness.
    And here is just a "body" with MANPADS in their hands. This duck is fried. Not flying.
    1. KOH
      KOH 7 December 2015 08: 14 New
      0
      Yes, in general, everything is not clear with the snapshot, in my photoshop, firstly what kind of anti-aircraft gunner’s clothes are? ... Secondly, another dolphin fighter thinks unconstrainedly in the shot sector, maybe he’ll smudge the face ...)))))
  24. PatriotKZ
    PatriotKZ 7 December 2015 07: 50 New
    +4
    Photoshop is 100% sure.
  25. samara-58
    samara-58 7 December 2015 07: 54 New
    +1
    Well, what is edik scary ?! Do not want to sit on the count? .. And you have to! am
  26. ARES623
    ARES623 7 December 2015 07: 58 New
    +1
    The whining of the Turks is all the more strange since American destroyers, stuffed with anti-aircraft missiles, are much more powerful than Igla MANPADS constantly hanging out through the straits. This is just a reason to moan for no real reason. There are two more 57mm universal machines, with great capabilities. Why don't they cry? Rave....
  27. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 December 2015 07: 58 New
    +3
    turned out to be a representative of the German edition of "Bild"

    Again, the German media tear themselves one place to curry favor with the "omnipotent", which for a long time, pointing to Russia, gave the command "Fas". The Germans, the Germans, is memory really lost?
  28. Belarus
    Belarus 7 December 2015 07: 58 New
    +2
    I watched one talk show in which one Turk included accusations against a Ukrainian fool and said: what are you saying, you weren’t in that hospital, you only know all this from the press. You yourself weren’t there, everything you say is not true. About the Turkish flag at the Turkish checkpoint it was said that could shoot a video (flag) in Moscow and mount a video (I don’t lie and do not invent it). In short, the Turks with Ukrainian apparently roots.
    And all the accusations against Turkey were like that, well, there were still words that Turkey wants peace, that Turkey loves Russians and blah blah blah.
    And what about European hamsters, Turkey keeps them behind something threatening the flow of refugees. Oh, I apologize that the United States through Turkey keeps Europe threatening to increase the flow of refugees.
  29. askort154
    askort154 7 December 2015 08: 08 New
    +1
    Another fake! A woman’s face is visible through a magnifying glass. Apparently the correspondent posed in front of the camera. The location could be anywhere, and Erdogan is likened to a bazaar woman.
  30. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 7 December 2015 08: 15 New
    0
    All our "well-wishers" will use every opportunity to prick. And they will not see their logs in the eye until we tell you.
  31. leo3972
    leo3972 7 December 2015 08: 15 New
    +2
    I wonder what our sailors do on board in their greatcoats. laughing
  32. Masya masya
    Masya masya 7 December 2015 08: 30 New
    +4
    "Davutoglu stated that" Turkey no longer intends to send its military to Bashik. " and less too ...
  33. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 7 December 2015 08: 31 New
    +2
    “Any lie repeated 20 times becomes true” -J. Goebels
    Turks will never become Europeans, and will never be Oriental people. Nobody will consider them as their own. And they will only use them for their own purposes.
  34. Gray 43
    Gray 43 7 December 2015 09: 07 New
    0
    Some kind of nonsense, not a photo! Where then is the S-400 on deck? ))) And the expanded "Poplar"? Her, I do not believe ...
  35. Gray 43
    Gray 43 7 December 2015 09: 07 New
    +1
    Some kind of nonsense, not a photo! Where then is the S-400 on deck? ))) And the expanded "Poplar"? Her, I do not believe ...
  36. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 7 December 2015 09: 17 New
    0
    “Indignation at the fact that on board the landing ship Caesar Kunikov, sailing through the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, a Russian soldier was seen“ with a grenade launcher in his hands ”.
    ____________________________________________________________________________
    Russian soldier? With a grenade launcher? What the hell? It seemed to you. It was MANPADS ... laughing
  37. Almatinets
    Almatinets 7 December 2015 09: 21 New
    +2
    Photoshop is not completed, the same with two buckets is not enough to prove that Russia is buying oil from ISIS
  38. srha
    srha 7 December 2015 09: 48 New
    +1
    I watched the video of their news - editing! And it’s very bad. We inserted a corrected freeze frame in the video news - there is absolutely no movement except sliding the camera up for several seconds, and this is at sea on a moving ship. Moreover, in this frame, the colors of the mounted militant do not coincide with the adjacent military, but should - the Russian army is painted in accordance with uniform rules. Lighting and shadows do not match, so the mounted warrior is also very dark. Where did the deep shadow come from on the action movie without the sun and the highlight (glare) of the sea at all, it’s not at all the case in front of the soldier - it’s not at all clear, because the mast is closer in plan and the sun is on the other side. And a uniform like a bathrobe - apparently the Turks are waving ...
  39. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 7 December 2015 09: 49 New
    +1
    What else can be expected from patients of ward No. 6? And the gentlemen of the administrators do not interfere with being more attentive and not publishing any frank "shnyaga", and we don’t need to be delirious and publicize its authors!
  40. nagel_Oz
    nagel_Oz 7 December 2015 11: 56 New
    0
    Good day!
    This is a warship, and "imprisoned" under all sorts of. actions, even assuming that this is just a fake, it is important to know that any military vessel can carry “military iron” on board that is not subject to conventions, agreements and treaties. Where are the obligations of our country not to carry "needles" on a military board in the Bosphorus ?! In my opinion this is just another stuffing, for the euro .. suckers lol
  41. lazma3
    lazma3 7 December 2015 12: 14 New
    +3
    Something looks like a photo montage. Near a standing soldier it is clearly visible that the uniform is green and everything is in color. And this one with MANPADS is in black for some reason.
  42. Things
    Things 7 December 2015 12: 15 New
    +1
    And why is it suddenly a "fighter with MANPADS" on the deck of a ship in an overcoat (or cloak), in theory, after all, in a pea coat should be ... request
  43. lazma3
    lazma3 7 December 2015 12: 18 New
    0
    And by the way, judging by the photo, the fighter with MANPADS is wearing a greatcoat. It’s strange for the current Russian army. The greatcoat has long been canceled.
  44. nivander
    nivander 7 December 2015 14: 34 New
    0
    it's not MANPADS, it's such a tricky spinning
  45. dashnak
    dashnak 7 December 2015 18: 10 New
    0
    vsegolish combat guard
  46. dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 7 December 2015 18: 26 New
    0
    send an extract to the Turks from the combat training plan. They say that we don’t know anything, we are not threatening anyone, we are working on the program just for the time “Ch”, and the Bosphorus for decoration. and all business)))
  47. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 7 December 2015 19: 00 New
    0
    Our Foreign Ministry must definitely give an answer to Turkey that this measure is aimed at protecting Russian ships from Turkish aircraft!
    And then suddenly they will confuse our ships with a flying Dutchman.
  48. ioann1
    ioann1 7 December 2015 19: 16 New
    +1
    This is already psychosis. It’s as if this is someone with something similar to “MANPADS” and he rises on a cruise ship ... what nonsense! Yes this is the same warship !! and it consists entirely of weapons and is filled with armed people - military, guns and missiles !! This fact does not bother the Turks?
  49. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 7 December 2015 19: 49 New
    0
    Well done Turks laughing laughing Right in the footsteps of amers go. Armed invasion of foreign territory is "increased interaction". laughing For me it's notorious "humanitarian bombing", not less.
  50. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 7 December 2015 20: 06 New
    0
    The full "linden", the Bosphorus passed several times, it’s warm in its overcoat now, even the fighter will not stand on the upper bridge. Well, as for the Turks in Iraq, I don’t think that they will leave from there, they didn’t come in for that, now the mujahideen are important to them with more advanced MANPADS along the route of our "air bridge" to place, and in case of further escalation of the conflict with Russia - put your own air defense. There will be gannies to do any meanness, Russia annoyed them hard!