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Turchinov: Ukraine has been disarmed in its time, and now nobody wants to defend it

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Security Council Secretary (NSDC) of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov said that 21 a year ago, the superpowers disarmed Ukraine, guaranteeing its protection in case of need, but didn’t do anything when the need came. His words with reference to Tass newspaper leads Look.




Now "strategic partners are not ready to defend Ukraine and it is necessary to rely only on themselves," said Turchinov.

He recalled that “December 5 of 1994 of the year was signed by the Budapest Memorandum, when Ukraine was convinced that nuclear weapon it will not be needed, because the guarantors of its sovereignty, the inviolability of borders and independence were superpower states (USA, UK, RF). ”

According to the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, “when Ukraine turned to strategic partners for help, she was told that the memorandum is a formal document, it does not provide for real mechanisms for the implementation of the guarantees provided.”

Thus, “Ukraine was disarmed in reality, and the guarantees were conditional,” said Turchinov, stressing that “all this proves the futility of disarmament.”

He also noted that the partners have not yet delivered lethal weapons to Kiev, “without giving any real arguments”.

“We sympathized with us, we were supported politically and economically, but it became clear that no one would protect us, and we had to rely only on our own strength,” Turchinov concluded.
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  1. Haettenschweiler
    Haettenschweiler 6 December 2015 11: 40 New
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    - Turchynov, apparently, is not aware that the guarantor countries gave their obligations not to the Maidan gang, but to the legitimate government, which the armed "opposition" dispersed. No one gave guarantees to the invaders and usurpers.
    1. Good me
      Good me 6 December 2015 11: 45 New
      78
      Turchinov: Ukraine has been disarmed in its time, and now nobody wants to defend it


      Actually, no one promised protection in the INTERNAL CONFLICT ...
      1. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 6 December 2015 11: 49 New
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        Quote: Good Me
        Actually, no one promised protection in the INTERNAL CONFLICT ...


        - For its part, the Kiev authorities in no way recognize this conflict as "internal". Every racially loyal Ukrainian understands: neighboring Russia invaded, and he, a patriot, with a Mosin rifle, protects Europe from the invasion of wild Asian unwashed hordes. By the way, if you remember, at first it worked, and under the theme "defending civilization from Russia" they were given money, cookies, and in every possible way were treated kindly at high-level meetings.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 6 December 2015 11: 54 New
          17
          Turchinov: Ukraine has been disarmed in its time, and now nobody wants to defend it

          Turchinov, with a nuclear club? That's cool! Then you would not be allowed to stir up Maidan!
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            1. captain
              captain 6 December 2015 13: 13 New
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              Turchinov studied at the institute apparently not very well. I didn’t look in the dictionaries. Ozhegov’s explanatory dictionary, memorandum - a diplomatic document handed to the representative of another country outlining the views of the government on any issue
              Efremova TF Explanatory dictionary of the Russian language.
              memorandum
              м.
              1) A diplomatic document outlining the views of the government on an issue (usually attached to a note and delivered to a representative of another country).
              2) is out of date. Certificate or memorandum explaining or reminiscent of
              SI Ozhegov, N.Yu.Shvedova. Explanatory dictionary of the Russian language.
              memorandum, m. (official). Handed to a representative of another country
              a diplomatic document outlining the views of the government on any issue. This Vienna Memorandum is not a binding document, so Mr. Turchynov, you’ve simply been divorced. And given the fact that the EU condemned the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, get ready to return the lands to Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, and Russia naturally. They have been waiting for you in the EU for a long time and are ready for this issue.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 6 December 2015 14: 37 New
                12
                Ukrainians were ruined by a craving for freebies and profits. Selling abroad the former Soviet military equipment and military arsenal, they themselves perfectly disarmed. Nothing to blame on others.
                The leadership of Ukraine 21 a year ago forgot that "free cheese is only in a mousetrap."
                1. gladcu2
                  gladcu2 7 December 2015 16: 33 New
                  0
                  Tatyana

                  The Ukrainians were ruined by the absence of a normal president.

                  And the craving for profit is the same for everyone. Including you, Tatyana. Well, at least to support your standard of living.

                  There is no point in blaming the Ukrainians for anything, they are absolutely the same as everyone else. Give them normal guidance and they will stop jumping and the "clearing" will be covered.
              2. sherp2015
                sherp2015 6 December 2015 17: 48 New
                +1
                Quote: captain
                Turchinov studied at the institute apparently not very well. I didn’t look in the dictionaries. Ozhegov’s explanatory dictionary, memorandum - a diplomatic document handed to the representative of another country outlining the views of the government on any issue
                Efremova TF Explanatory dictionary of the Russian language.
                memorandum


                Kogan, like all this Bandera-fascist grouping, except for plundering, destroying and "sawing" nothing more
          2. lelikas
            lelikas 6 December 2015 12: 08 New
            +8
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Turchinov, with a nuclear club? That's cool!

            All the same, with the collapse and division, someone was found a little more far-sighted, who knew how it would all end.
            1. S_last
              S_last 6 December 2015 12: 26 New
              +1
              cannot disagree with you yes
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            3. Good me
              Good me 6 December 2015 14: 43 New
              +8
              Quote: lelikas
              All the same, with the collapse and division, someone was found a little more far-sighted, who knew how it would all end.


              And imagine, these were AMERICANS fellow Yes Yes yes they are ...

              At that time, they were afraid that Ukraine would remain in our sphere of influence, and not counting on their so quick success in splitting the two nations, they decided to play it safe by dumping all their eggs (nuclear strike systems and weapons) into one, OUR basket. However, counting on the fact that we will not keep our nuclear shield.

              DO NOT CONNECTED ... And since they were afraid of getting involved in the First Chechen missile, afraid of our missiles (and such thoughts were in the headquarters of the USA and Brussels), now, SUCH A FRUIT FOR YOU:



              1. Tersky
                Tersky 6 December 2015 15: 57 New
                +6
                Quote: Good Me
                SUCH FRUIT TO YOU:

                I dare to assure you, as I grow figs myself, that this is not a fruit, but a wine berry, a fig tree, a fig tree. To be more precise, this is an inflorescence ... That according to the next "statement" of the Maidan pastor, blogger Alexei Kurakin writes in the article "Nuclear Weapons for Ward No. 6":
                In 1991, the Russian Federation, meanly and without declaring war, threw Ukraine into so-called "independence." Moreover, in a rude and perverse form, without obligation for alimony. After that, Americans came running into a criminal conspiracy, either with international imperialism, or with universal Zionism and, without giving money for Chernobyl and decommunization, cut nuclear missiles, planes, blew up and flooded the mines of intercontinental missiles and left Ukraine “on bean ”and with the Budapest memorandum in hand.

                As a result, after 23 of the year: an army without cartridges and volunteers with one rifle for three stopped the hordes of Putin and covered the whole of Europe with a tank invasion from Buryatia. : In the 1991 year, the Russian Federation, meanly and without declaring war, threw Ukraine into the so-called “independence”. Moreover, in a rude and perverse form, without obligation for alimony. After that, Americans came running into a criminal conspiracy, either with international imperialism, or with universal Zionism and, without giving money for Chernobyl and decommunization, cut nuclear missiles, planes, blew up and flooded the mines of intercontinental missiles and left Ukraine “on bean ”and with the Budapest memorandum in hand.
                As a result, after 23 of the year: an army without cartridges and volunteers with one rifle for three stopped the hordes of Putin and covered the whole of Europe with a tank invasion from Buryatia.
                laughing .Full read here
                1. Good me
                  Good me 6 December 2015 16: 36 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Tersky
                  I dare to assure you, since I grow figs myself, that this is not a fruit, but a wine berry, a fig tree, a fig tree.

                  Do not care laughing All the same, they FIGU yes
            4. Dryuya2
              Dryuya2 6 December 2015 16: 12 New
              -1
              Quote: lelikas
              how it all ends.

              read and sad oh oh - jumped sad
              http://zugunder.com/index.php?topic=139933.0
              There were worse times
              Visited Kiev and surroundings. I haven’t been there for more than two years, the last time was in September 2013.
              Shocked by what he saw and heard.
              To summarize, then on a human level - a catastrophe, no one sees a way out of it, and even the very possibility of a way out - they no longer believe in it.

              It was a busy week - my social circle is gradually narrowing, but because I run rarely, then in seven days I squeezed in at least three dozen meetings with a variety of people: old and not quite, poor and very rich, residents of Kiev and provincials - we can say a fairly representative sample of Ukrainian society. Only one relative breathed optimism: his wife was lucky, she was transferred to her company’s European office for three years, they were felled from Ukraine. try to catch on somehow.

              more detailed
              http://zugunder.com/index.php?topic=139933.0
            5. gladcu2
              gladcu2 7 December 2015 16: 35 New
              0
              lelikas

              Something intuition still tells me that this far-sighted and GDP prompted on time in the right direction.
          3. 2s1122
            2s1122 6 December 2015 12: 15 New
            +5
            If this Turk had a nuclear baton, then I think that Donetsk and Lugansk were already not fantastic, these idiots are on the drum.
            1. Serhio
              Serhio 6 December 2015 15: 45 New
              +3
              But really, TURK! laughing
            2. Al_oriso
              Al_oriso 7 December 2015 06: 02 New
              0
              Weapons should not be given to children, morons and psychopaths. In this, the whole sane population of the planet is in solidarity.
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          5. cniza
            cniza 6 December 2015 14: 53 New
            +3
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Turchinov: Ukraine has been disarmed in its time, and now nobody wants to defend it

            Turchinov, with a nuclear club? That's cool! Then you would not be allowed to stir up Maidan!



            He will never be able to understand this, but he will puff out his cheeks.
          6. neri73-r
            neri73-r 6 December 2015 15: 44 New
            +3
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Turchinov: Ukraine has been disarmed in its time, and now nobody wants to defend it

            Turchinov, with a nuclear club? That's cool! Then you would not be allowed to stir up Maidan!



            Nuclear weapons from Ukraine never happened, nuclear weapons and all issues related to it were resolved only in Moscow exclusively, including tactical (which was stored in warehouses subordinate to Moscow)! Let them not lick their lips! The question then was decided solely on the export by Russia, as the assignee of the USSR, of its nuclear weapons to its territory !!! hi
          7. Poppy
            Poppy 7 December 2015 10: 03 New
            0
            how far-sighted the great powers acted at the time that they robbed their nuclear toy
            it’s scary even to imagine that the current **** will suddenly have a nuclear bomb
          8. Vend
            Vend 7 December 2015 10: 32 New
            0
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Turchinov: Ukraine has been disarmed in its time, and now nobody wants to defend it

            Turchinov, with a nuclear club? That's cool! Then you would not be allowed to stir up Maidan!

            Why protect Ukraine? Great Ukrainians are holding back Russia, they are coping, either they will destroy the convoy of tanks, then the Airborne Division, then the Buryat Special Forces. laughing
        2. Mitek
          Mitek 6 December 2015 12: 02 New
          +3
          Why protect them then? They protect Europe themselves))))))))))) How many of these nerds of our troops are there? 200 thousand or 300?
        3. lelikas
          lelikas 6 December 2015 12: 07 New
          10
          Everyone knows phrases about a monkey with a grenade, but so that she would be indignant at the rumor that the grenade was taken away - I see it for the first time!
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 6 December 2015 13: 21 New
            +6
            Precisely - the monkeys, precisely - are indignant and get into a fight if something is taken from them. Behavior at the level of primates, and then not all, because the same chimpanzees look more adequate than the dill authorities ...
            1. zennon
              zennon 6 December 2015 22: 15 New
              0
              Quote: Paranoid50
              Behavior at the level of primates, and not all

              You probably don’t know, but the primates detachment Primates was introduced by Karl Liney in the middle of the 18th century. In particular, it has a family of Hominidae hominids, including orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees and humans. And people, Homo, are a kind of primates hominid families. It includes the species Homo sapiens, an intelligent man, and extinct species close to him. Well, to make it clear, people and monkeys make up a single family, which is part of the primacy squad. And in this squad there are many interesting representatives, about 400 species. Well, for example, Galago, Tamarins, Tupaya ... Here is meet-small Lori, the same primate as we are:
        4. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 6 December 2015 12: 16 New
          +7
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          Kiev power

          Kiev power, Kiev power, Kiev power - rzhunemogu laughing
          Very interesting interview. laughing
          (God grant health and patience to the journalist)
          1. veksha50
            veksha50 6 December 2015 12: 45 New
            +7
            Quote: Dryuya2
            Very interesting interview.



            But he speaks in English decently ... not quite the brain has spent on drink ... He pronounces especially well: "No", as if it was jammed ...
            1. woker
              woker 6 December 2015 21: 45 New
              +1
              this is one word that without accent
          2. Siberian1965
            Siberian1965 6 December 2015 13: 44 New
            +3
            The president of the killers has a good reaction. Not expected. Interestingly, the geyropeytsy will endure this slippery for a long time.
        5. figwam
          figwam 6 December 2015 12: 42 New
          +1
          Now “strategic partners are not ready to defend Ukraine

          Ukraine is ready, but there is no pig farm!
        6. Stena
          Stena 6 December 2015 16: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          Every racially faithful Ukrainian understands: neighboring Russia invaded, and he, a patriot, with Mosin’s rifle protects Europe from the invasion of wild Asian unwashed hordes.

          This is not Ukrainians - this is the ideology of the Nazis multiplied by Khokhlyat features. All this has already happened, including in Hohland. How it ended - we all know. And now - they took up the old, pretending to be boots ... The finale is already looming clearer and clearer. Economically, the maximum is 2-3 years ... If external forces do not help, then soon after this time there will already be nothing economically (except subsistence farming) Ukrainians to either stay in antiquity or join an economically advanced neighbor, but apparently no longer as a separate state, but as a territory (with externally established authorities and without the right to tryndezh, oh sorry, votes) ...
        7. gladcu2
          gladcu2 6 December 2015 20: 04 New
          0
          Haetten (you will finish the end)

          The goblin on YouTube has a very interesting video. There, a very competent and intelligent young man from the former legitimate government analyzes the situation in Ukraine. And it also warns Russia about the possibility of transferring the acquired developments to the territory of Russia.

          Immediately, I’m sad, this young man is very literate.

          Hatten watch this video, and then from the point of view of the knowledge gained, rethink what you wrote.

          Ukraine is a colony of the European Union. With slaves and natural resources.

          Why protect her? There is no master. Each robbing as needed and they wanted to spit on the resumption of the resource.
        8. Manul
          Manul 6 December 2015 20: 22 New
          0
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          - For its part, the Kiev authorities in no way recognize this conflict as "internal". Every racially loyal Ukrainian understands: neighboring Russia invaded, and he, a patriot, with a Mosin rifle, protects Europe from the invasion of wild Asian unwashed hordes. By the way, if you remember, at first it worked, and under the theme "defending civilization from Russia" they were given money, cookies, and in every possible way were treated kindly at high-level meetings.

          Sorry to invade the branch so dishonorably (all the same, the weekend and everyone has read everything. It's just news - though trifling, but pleasant.)
          Georgian President Giorgi Margvelashvili signed a decree on the deprivation of citizenship of Mikhail Saakashvili, who is now the governor of the Odessa region.

          http://lenta.ru/video/2015/12/04/passport/
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      2. avg
        avg 6 December 2015 13: 48 New
        +5
        Turchinov: Ukraine has been disarmed in its time, and now nobody wants to defend it

        Yes, in general, it’s not anyone who didn’t disarm, just a vigorous bomb was taken from the goats, and as practice has shown, they did it right. And the pans sold the rest of the weapons themselves, and all the grandmothers plundered, devoured and drained. So, pan Turchinov, there’s nothing to nod at the mirror ... request
      3. ilyinval61
        ilyinval61 6 December 2015 15: 19 New
        +1
        Now "strategic partners are not ready to defend Ukraine and you need to rely only on your own strength"

        And who actually chose these partners?
    2. WKS
      WKS 6 December 2015 11: 53 New
      15
      And if they hadn’t disarmed, then they would have dropped a nuclear bomb in the Donbass. This ghoul Turchinov without wincing would do it.
      1. Chertkov Oleg
        Chertkov Oleg 6 December 2015 11: 59 New
        +5
        the superpowers disarmed Ukraine, guaranteeing it protection if necessary, but did not really do anything when this need arose.

        And who yelled from the show-off Ukrii that they had the most powerful army in Europe? And for what kind of buoy are they protected then? That's right, they themselves will "overcome" everything.
    3. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 6 December 2015 11: 56 New
      +6
      And who created this weapon?! Ukraine or something !!!! They and with what remained turned everything into rubbish. And in general, banderlogs are not Ukraine.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 6 December 2015 12: 02 New
        17
        Russia protects the Ukrainian people! And the rest are "treated" in different ways and ...
    4. Spnsr
      Spnsr 6 December 2015 12: 01 New
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      They didn’t let this type of romance go into the romance, or, as they say, “it’s always ready”, they took it, and he is already in the robe, even a T-shirt and black cap ...
      1. U-995
        U-995 6 December 2015 12: 25 New
        +7
        Quote: SpnSr
        of this type that doesn’t let go

        visited the same thought) A certain similarity ...
      2. U-995
        U-995 6 December 2015 12: 39 New
        +7
        Quote: SpnSr
        and the cap is black ...

        band's new hit
      3. cap
        cap 6 December 2015 19: 04 New
        +2
        Turchinov is not only a professional politician, but also a scientist in the field of his current activities.
        In 1995 he defended his thesis "Methodological support and the mechanism of reforming and optimizing taxation in modern economic conditions." In 1997 he defended his doctoral dissertation "Shadow Economics (research methodology and functioning mechanisms)." He is the author of more than 100 scientific papers and monographs on the study of corruption, the shadow economy, and totalitarianism.

        Doctor of Economics, professor.
        Author of scientific papers and monographs on the study of corruption, the shadow economy, totalitarianism.

        With such knowledge and at large ?!
        Congenially hi
    5. avdkrd
      avdkrd 6 December 2015 12: 26 New
      +8
      Quote: Haettenschweiler
      - Turchynov, apparently, is not aware that the guarantor countries gave their obligations not to the Maidan gang, but to the legitimate government, which the armed "opposition" dispersed. No one gave guarantees to the invaders and usurpers.

      The West and even Russia recognize the current junta as a legitimate government. The latter is very annoying. You can talk as much as you like about a military coup and illegitimacy, show on TV that the "revolution of guiding" was planned in the State Department, implemented and financed through the American embassy, ​​but the fact remains that Russia has diplomatic relations with the junta, which by the above, it methodically kills its people and is a typical occupation administration under the US State Department (an entire floor in the SBU is occupied by CIA officers). At the time of the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine received the best equipment, gigantic weapons depots, and was quantitatively and qualitatively superior to the Russian in terms of conventional weapons. The cry of the bloody pastor about Ukraine's defenselessness at the time of its nuclear disarmament is hypocrisy. Despite the fact that the state debt of the USSR fell entirely on the shoulders of Russia, Kiev is banal for the PROS and its armed forces and everything that is signs of the state. In Ukraine, not without the help of the United States, an interesting "natural selection" took place, when the most "finished" achieved power and position, and the worthy were outlawed. I am very glad that Russia has finally taken up NGOs, of course I would like them not only to be closed, but also to punish those who were the conductors of American values ​​with "special fanaticism". There is only one definition for the activities of Russians participating in such non-profit organizations - treason to the Motherland.
      1. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 6 December 2015 17: 42 New
        0
        Quote: avdkrd
        The West and even Russia recognize the current junta as a legitimate government. The latter is very annoying. You can talk as much as you like about a military coup and illegitimacy, show on TV that the "revolution of guiding" was planned in the State Department, carried out and financed through the American embassy, ​​but the fact remains that Russia has diplomatic relations with the junta, which according to by the above, it methodically kills its people and is a typical occupation administration under the US State Department (an entire floor in the SBU is occupied by CIA officers).


        - The fact is that Russia did not recognize and does not recognize itself as a participant in the internal Ukrainian conflict. No one has yet provided convincing evidence to the contrary. Thus, there is no official reason to interfere with the "guarantor countries" not even on the basis of the appeals of Turchinov and the company - no.
    6. Svyatogor
      Svyatogor 6 December 2015 12: 27 New
      +6
      The pastor is completely lying, who disarmed them? After the collapse of the USSR, they received one of the most powerful armies in Europe, with powerful weapons, which they successfully sold out, and now it remains only to do the usual thing, to whine and beg for alms.
    7. vodolaz
      vodolaz 6 December 2015 13: 32 New
      +5
      Who disarmed them? They refused nuclear weapons only for the reason that it is very expensive to maintain and to use it, it is necessary not only the weapon itself, but also a large range of tools and a radar network. Who prevented them from developing conventional weapons? All weapons are still in the USSR released.
    8. mark2
      mark2 6 December 2015 15: 26 New
      +1
      Turchinov, apparently, is not aware that the guarantor countries gave their obligations not to the Maidan gang, but to the legitimate government


      "As our beloved chef says: If a person is a sucker, then this is for a long time!"
      1. avdkrd
        avdkrd 7 December 2015 11: 20 New
        0
        Quote: mark2
        "As our beloved chef says: If a person is a sucker, then this is for a long time!"

        In the original version, Plato is more interesting -If a person is dead - this is for a long time. If d.o.s. forever.
    9. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 6 December 2015 15: 38 New
      +1
      The memorandum to which Turchin refers does not contain a word about the collapse of Ukraine for internal reasons. If we consider Crimea from a legal point of view, then the Crimean parliament proclaimed the independence of the Republic of Crimea, and its further fate was decided through the highest form of democracy - a referendum
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 6 December 2015 17: 16 New
        -3
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Crimean Parliament proclaimed the independence of the Republic of Crimea, and its further fate was decided through the highest form of democracy - referendum

        But the Parliament of Crimea did not have such powers under the Law, and the European Union is well aware of this. As long as Ukraine SAMA does not recognize the fact of Crimea joining Russia, the EU and the West always have room for maneuver. The problem remains, and there is no standard solution.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 6 December 2015 21: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: revnagan
          But the Parliament of Crimea did not have such powers under the Law.


          In the conditions of the coup / revolution, the legal authority of Crimea, the parliament, had all the power to hold a referendum.
        2. vodolaz
          vodolaz 8 December 2015 12: 18 New
          0
          Quote: revnagan
          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          Crimean Parliament proclaimed the independence of the Republic of Crimea, and its further fate was decided through the highest form of democracy - referendum

          But the Parliament of Crimea did not have such powers under the Law, and the European Union is well aware of this. As long as Ukraine SAMA does not recognize the fact of Crimea joining Russia, the EU and the West always have room for maneuver. The problem remains, and there is no standard solution.

          Can we look further into history? For example, about how Khrushchev transferred Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR without having legal rights? Or remember that Sevastopol would have been a city of federal subordination and had no relation to the Ukrainian SSR at all — it was an independent territorial unit.
    10. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 6 December 2015 15: 39 New
      +1
      superpowered states "- the USA, Great Britain and Russia" - looked far ahead when they took a grenade from a newborn monkey ..
    11. Serhio
      Serhio 6 December 2015 15: 40 New
      0
      History repeats itself ... a mini-Pinochet and a junta. This time in the form of a farce. yes
    12. marlin1203
      marlin1203 6 December 2015 15: 50 New
      +1
      Now, right now, we’ll all feel empty and will return the nuclear weapons to Bandera ... crying
    13. Vikings
      Vikings 6 December 2015 16: 06 New
      +1
      Turchinov should be reminded! What is protected by the Motherland, (in this
      case of Bander-Dill), the prerogative of it, the inhabitants!
      If even the residents of Bander -Ukropiya do not want the strait-
      blood for this is a pseudo-state. So they only have to blame
      on it.
    14. Imperialkolorad
      Imperialkolorad 6 December 2015 16: 55 New
      +1
      Especially since they knew that grenades should not be left in any form to current monkeys.
    15. Rezident007
      Rezident007 6 December 2015 21: 13 New
      0
      So, so, so ... In another way, the bird has already begun to sing .. Soon, in a completely different way, they will sing, the birds maydanut !!!
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    17. Poppy
      Poppy 7 December 2015 09: 59 New
      0
      and whom is he actually going to bomb with nuclear bombs? Donetsk with Lugansk?

      and they disarmed themselves: no one forced them to sell their latest weapons and bring the rest to a non-working state
      yourself, all by yourself
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    1. Infinity
      Infinity 6 December 2015 11: 42 New
      +5
      No money, no protection. Instilled Americans.
      1. FiremamRescueS
        FiremamRescueS 6 December 2015 11: 52 New
        +1
        Come on! For a year now, both the geyropa and the mattresses have been feeding dill, but they are still not enough. I am amazed at these people with a sore head ...
  3. Limon1972
    Limon1972 6 December 2015 11: 40 New
    21
    But it’s scary to think what would happen if nuclear weapons remained in Ukraine!
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 6 December 2015 11: 52 New
      +8
      What would be? Yes, they would sell to interested and solvent buyers. Everything, until the last warhead - Ukraine, as the Ukrainians themselves previously claimed, no one threatened. And would KSA and Qatar, for example, be nuclear powers
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    3. BLOND
      BLOND 6 December 2015 12: 17 New
      +4
      4 nuclear power plants with 15 power units operate in Ukraine
      + Chernobyl
      dill and so monkey with pomegranate
    4. Albert1988
      Albert1988 6 December 2015 12: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: Limon1972
      But it’s scary to think what would happen if nuclear weapons remained in Ukraine!

      It is clear that - would be sold to someone like Daesh or al-Qaeda. or someone else, not very pleasant: to think about the consequences not in the spirit of Svidomo, about the consequences for both others and for themselves ...
  4. kimyth1
    kimyth1 6 December 2015 11: 40 New
    19
    I wonder what it would be if the EU would not be disarmed !!! I have hair on end !!! wassat
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 6 December 2015 12: 43 New
      +5
      Quote: kimyth1
      I wonder what it would be if the EU would not be disarmed !!! I have hair on end !!!



      Hmm ... Disarmed them ... And how did they cut the White Swans (Tu-160) ???

      Everything that the hands of the "leadership" of Ukraine touch, turns into shit ...

      PS And then we regret that the APU collapsed ??? For example, I just rejoice ...
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  5. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 6 December 2015 11: 41 New
    13
    Something will stir up soon. And then they lost all interest in them. This is unbearable!
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 6 December 2015 11: 43 New
      +7
      Quote: armored optimist
      And then they lost all interest in them

      Welcome hi ..Even Putin has never once mentioned in a message .. apparently offensive to them ..
      1. kimyth1
        kimyth1 6 December 2015 11: 49 New
        16
        lol ball and turcillus identity forgot !!!!
      2. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 6 December 2015 11: 52 New
        +2
        The GDP sent them a long time ago.
    2. German Titov
      German Titov 6 December 2015 12: 05 New
      +4
      Yes, the second day is already some kind of turbidity. The cannonade in Donetsk is audible.
  6. AlexSK
    AlexSK 6 December 2015 11: 42 New
    +5
    From whom to protect? Ukraine needs to be protected from you.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 6 December 2015 11: 44 New
      17
      Quote: AlexSK
      Ukraine needs to be protected from you.


      read more correctly clean ...
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    1. Nymp
      Nymp 6 December 2015 13: 10 New
      +2
      In the course of this is the last trump card of ukrov, to draw the NATO Armed Forces to their side against Novorossiya. - “You promised that when the Muscovites swear on us, they would humiliate and trample them. For this pleasure we, the great Ukrainians, sacrificed our nuclear arsenal, which would have become rusty in 24 years of independence. Because there was not enough to keep the nuclear arsenal on alert. would be all our independent-plundered budget. ”But this should not be remembered, it is necessary to put pressure on pity and on the" word of honor "of the Western powers. And how honest it is, we have already seen Dmitry with the example of NATO's promise not to expand eastward. Forgive that there are so many to your question from whom the rams are defending themselves! hi
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    1. vorobey
      vorobey 6 December 2015 11: 59 New
      +5
      Quote: dvina71
      (since when did the word "mosk a l" become a dirty word? ay moderator .. turn on the brain)


      it's easier to turn you off ... laughing moderators have nothing to do with it, the filter is worth even the word d urak blocks
    2. Anatole
      Anatole 6 December 2015 14: 30 New
      +5
      Yes, they wanted to rest on the rights of traders living on a gesheft from the sale of the inheritance of the USSR.
      1991 found on the Ukrainian territory just the bulk of the troops of the USSR. The grouping of the armed forces of the USSR in the territory of already independent Ukraine was the largest formation in Europe at that time. 780 thousand personnel, 6500 tanks, 7000 other armored combat vehicles, 7200 artillery systems. More than 500 ships and ships, four Soviet air armies, 1100 combat aircraft (MiG-29 220pcs., Su-27 - 67 units, 66 Tu-22 and Tu-22M, 150 Su-24 and Su-24M, as well as 44 ( !) strategic bomber (25 Tu-95MS and 19 Tu-160). From the Soviet Union, Ukraine inherited the most dense network of coverage of the territory with air defense systems. Until 1991, a separate 80th Air Defense Army and 28th Corps were based here.
      No one except the Ukrainian leadership itself sold all this "good" free of charge for scrap.
  9. MolGro
    MolGro 6 December 2015 11: 44 New
    +7
    Madhouse, Madhouse Long Live Madhouse !!
    Can you imagine what position
    All that will be with you, you know in advance.
    No worries then, doubts,
    Everything in the world has a schedule.
    And we challenge boredom
    Just because,
    To live here without a schizo
    Impossible to anyone.
    May good luck, failure,
    Let the flights up and down
    Only this way and not otherwise
    Only this way and not otherwise
    Long live the Madhouse.
    Madhouse, Madhouse Long Live Madhouse !!
    Provides a schedule of walkability,
    Provides for increased consciousness,
    And of course, the drunkenness will increase,
    And boredom will fill the universe.
    And we challenge boredom
    Just because,
    To live here without a schizo
    Impossible to anyone.
    May good luck, failure,
    Let the flights up and down
    Only this way and not otherwise
    Only this way and not otherwise
    Long live the Madhouse.
    Madhouse, Madhouse Long Live Madhouse !!
    Based on "Long Live the Dunno surprise from our yard"
  10. kervin78
    kervin78 6 December 2015 11: 44 New
    +5
    And Zekov’s robe goes to him
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 6 December 2015 11: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: kervin78
      And Zekov’s robe goes to him

      More like a security guard in a supermarket. laughing
      1. Funnels
        Funnels 6 December 2015 11: 54 New
        +6
        He looks at himself in the mirror and is afraid of himself. Especially when the Ukrainian Armed Forces travels in parts, wearing NATV uniforms and weighing himself with weapons. So what kind of protection does he need. He is already formidable, Senya over there in the Truman's seat in the aircraft carrier commander's chair showed off, Their already afraid of everything.
  11. 1976AG
    1976AG 6 December 2015 11: 46 New
    +2
    Yes, she is such a real power. It is not enough to capture it, it must be able to dispose of it.
  12. ewgen
    ewgen 6 December 2015 11: 46 New
    +2
    Well, you have to send these missiles back under your own power!
  13. zekaze1980
    zekaze1980 6 December 2015 11: 47 New
    +4
    After a couple of years, the same photo, only with a personal number on the chest, please :).
  14. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 6 December 2015 11: 47 New
    21
    "Do you remember, son, we had a country
    - blooming land with the name Ukraine?
    We lived well, planted bread,
    Gardens raised and loved lard,
    They drank vodka, ate borsch at lunch,
    But everything always seemed to us a little!
    I wanted fame, money and miracles!
    Manila sweet blue gave
    And a cunning demon with the name EU
    I played skillfully on the love of freebies ... "

    Alla Pavlenko
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 6 December 2015 12: 30 New
      +2
      A freebie is the worst weapon, worse than Aurora’s shot laughing
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 6 December 2015 12: 42 New
      +1
      Yeah...
      As I remember now, how:
      Manila sweet blue ...


      Beckoning, beckoning, promised sweet waffles, and they stuffed a mouth full of pi * syuns ... laughing
  15. pts-m
    pts-m 6 December 2015 11: 48 New
    +3
    This Scientologist Türkic confirms in his own words ... that the Kahly were whiners, are and will be them ...
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 6 December 2015 11: 59 New
      0
      Yes, give them fat, let fat and fat, but give it for free. They will whine until they get cracked.
  16. provincial
    provincial 6 December 2015 11: 50 New
    +1
    the bloody pastor prepares for the meeting on December 7, prepares a speech and shows what they need to completely overcome the Russian Federation.
  17. Tusv
    Tusv 6 December 2015 11: 50 New
    +4
    As Mr. Avakov said in the spring, Ukraine has so many weapons that there is no place to store
    A man caught a goldfish, that he
    -I will fulfill one secret desire
    -I want everything to be with me.
    - Good man. You had it all.

    What happened? The second army in Europe, the second space power in Europe or at least on par with France and without debts
    Wrong guess made
  18. Altona
    Altona 6 December 2015 11: 50 New
    30
    Today is the day of the Armed Forces ... With a holiday you, punitive ...

    1. veksha50
      veksha50 6 December 2015 12: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      Today is APU day..


      It is interesting how on this day the invincible and most efficient army in Europe was so distinguished ???
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 6 December 2015 16: 05 New
        +5
        veksha50 (1)
        Quote: Altona
        Today is APU day ..
        It is interesting how on this day the invincible and most efficient army in Europe was so distinguished ???

        The Ukrainian army was distinguished by shameful moral corruption, insane leadership, war crimes against the civilian population of the DPR and LPR, a large number of innocent victims, and pipe dreams of Ukraine’s pro-Western civilized future.
        The flag is in their hands to support the pro-American occupation power in Ukraine and beyond! Glory to the "heroes" of Ukraine!
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    1. sir
      sir 6 December 2015 12: 01 New
      11
      the head should be behind you. there will bang us
    2. German Titov
      German Titov 6 December 2015 12: 03 New
      10
      A head to think weakly? If the nuclear power plant explodes, you think Russia will be cool. No, of course it will hardly be enough to reach Khabarovsk ... And how does your statement differ from the thoughts of the "Azov"?
  20. APASUS
    APASUS 6 December 2015 11: 52 New
    +4
    A representative of the Ukrainian diaspora in Canada at one of the forums on the Web shared his impressions of visiting the Ukrainian capital.

    Read highly recommend how former compatriots look at the country with such a dustless look.
    http://rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1449358759«Такого геноцида Украина еще не знала»: впечатления эмигранта от посещения Киева (ФОТО)
  21. Bakht
    Bakht 6 December 2015 11: 57 New
    14
    First, the Budapest Treaty has not been ratified by NONE of the parties. Including Ukraine. So did not enter into legal force.

    Second - Ukraine 21 years ago had one of the strongest armies in Europe. Who plundered and ruined it?

    Third - what Turchinov regrets? The fact that Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons? Well, for starters, he would also be sold to all sorts of different terrorists. A nuclear warhead is not an ordinary shell. After 21 years, he will turn into a regular blank. The laws of physics and the half-life have not been canceled. And finally, what Turchinov intends to hit a nuclear bomb in Donetsk and Lugansk?

    Thank God that Ukraine was left without nuclear weapons. Monkeys with a nuclear grenade are worse than ISIS.

    And even in this form, Ukraine poses a HUGE danger to everyone in Europe. How many nuclear power units in this territory? The need has long been ripe for introducing peacekeeping and humanitarian contingent into the territory of the FORMER Ukraine. Colony she is a colony.
    1. HAM
      HAM 6 December 2015 12: 15 New
      +3
      Yulia, wholeheartedly ill, would have long been applied, even that .....
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 6 December 2015 17: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Bakht
      First, the Budapest Treaty has not been ratified by NONE of the parties. Including Ukraine. So did not enter into legal force.

      Share the source of information
      1. Bakht
        Bakht 7 December 2015 00: 02 New
        0
        You can easily see it on Wikipedia

        The issue of the status of the memorandum as a legally binding document for the parties is controversial. It was not ratified by the states that signed it.. Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko once advocated for its revision.

        According to Vladimir Ryabtsev, who worked in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine in 1994-1995 as the first secretary and took part in the preparation of the Budapest memorandum, in 1994 there was no talk of ratification of the Budapest memorandum by the states that signed it. In his opinion, then the understanding prevailed that the Memorandum is an international treaty that obliges the participating countries to steadily comply with all its provisions.
        1. Bakht
          Bakht 7 December 2015 00: 20 New
          0
          Additionally. Due to the late time, there is no way to consider in detail. The Budapest Memorandum was NOT RATIFIED by Russia, Great Britain and the USA. It seems Ukraine, too, did not bother with such a trifle.

          And then we watch the eternal Wiki and read
          Ratification (lat. Ratificatio from ratus - resolved, approved + facere - do) is the process of giving legal force to a document (for example, an agreement) by approving it by the relevant body of each of the parties. Prior to ratification, such a document, as a rule, has no legal force and is not obligatory for the non-ratifying party. However, the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties instructs a state that has signed the treaty, pending ratification or rejection of it to refrain from actions depriving the document of “object and purpose”, that is, clearly contrary to those tasks that it is intended to solve.

          In general, this is a memorandum of intent. No more.
  22. sichevik
    sichevik 6 December 2015 12: 01 New
    +1
    Yes, no one will protect them. Strongly defended Georgia ??? And they are not very eager to defend Turkey. And about the outskirts and say nothing ... And so it is clear that they will marry and leave. The casting process has already begun and no one will stop it. Interest in them is already disappearing, and in a few years the outskirts are not something that would not be interesting, but simply will annoy everyone.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 6 December 2015 12: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: sichevik
      Strongly defended Georgia ??? And not very eager to defend Turkey.


      And what, someone has already attacked Turkey ???
  23. barclay
    barclay 6 December 2015 12: 02 New
    +1
    Turchinov, as always, is nonsense. Judging by how the Ukrainian army and its armaments were maintained during the years of independence, nuclear weapons (or part of it) would certainly be sold to the left. What stupidity just can not be said for the sake of PR! It would be better about the national economy and people remembered, ghoul!
    1. HAM
      HAM 6 December 2015 12: 20 New
      +3
      Tell me, who in Kuev is not nonsense? I just can’t remember!
  24. NUR
    NUR 6 December 2015 12: 06 New
    0
    They threw all NATO also promised not to expand east. Now Ukraine has gathered in NATO what claims now. To promise is not to marry.
  25. Back in USSR
    Back in USSR 6 December 2015 12: 06 New
    0
    Disarmed? A wise decision: what would Ukrainians do now with a nuclear bomb? Yes, they would have applied last year ...
  26. wow
    wow 6 December 2015 12: 08 New
    +2
    Thank God that nuclear weapons were taken away in due time. Otherwise (taking into account the thieves' mentality of the "Ukrainian people") it would have been sold long ago to anyone. The rest of the "legacy" of the velikoukry was banal and all business.
  27. fa2998
    fa2998 6 December 2015 12: 09 New
    +1
    Yes, they took away nuclear weapons and strategic aviation from Kiev. And rightly so! It's scary to think about modern Kiev, it would be more dangerous than a monkey with a grenade. It would have been necessary to take out conventional weapons, they left tens of thousands of armored vehicles (withdrawn from Europe, OKVO warehouses) these "monkeys". fool hi
    1. S_last
      S_last 6 December 2015 13: 37 New
      +1
      They took away nuclear weapons, and not all strategic aviation.
      In 1998, Ukraine began disposing of its strategic bombers with US funds allocated under the Nunn-Lugar program.

      On September 8, 1999, in Yalta, an intergovernmental agreement was signed between Ukraine and Russia on the exchange of 8 Tu-160, 3 Tu-95MS, about 600 cruise missiles and airfield equipment to pay Ukrainian debt for delivered natural gas in the amount of $ 285 million [58]. The Tu-160 remaining in Ukraine was disposed of, except for one machine, which was brought into an uncomfortable state and is located in the Poltava Museum of Long-Range and Strategic Aviation. The last remaining Tu-160 strategic aviation system of the Ukrainian Air Force was destroyed on February 2, 2001.
      .... and this is how the lines look for those planes that were sawn into scrap
      6-04 14 (1) sawn in Priluki in 1999, having a flying time of less than 100 hours
      5-01 24 was in Priluki, the first one to be sawed off on November 16, 1998; 466 flight hours
      and further down the list .......
      So they saw absolutely new planes, each of which has an approximate cost of ~ 7 billion rubles.
    2. Aleksandr1959
      Aleksandr1959 6 December 2015 13: 51 New
      +2
      The Ukrainian authorities cut the strategic aviation at the expense and with the US money. Only a few Tu-160s were transferred to Russia for gas debts
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  29. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 6 December 2015 12: 09 New
    +5
    But the truth is - what a hymn, such a country :) Mournful hohlyatsky howls, from which I want to die - and life is the same! And we are fine, crisp :)
  30. HUMAN OWNER 1
    HUMAN OWNER 1 6 December 2015 12: 10 New
    +2
    All in affairs and concerns, even shaving there is no time for the unfortunate :-)
  31. moskowit
    moskowit 6 December 2015 12: 12 New
    +1
    Well, finally they began to recognize that there was a gangster seizure of power ... And it is impossible to compare how they try with the revolution ...

    Remember Lenin’s well-known phrase - “Every revolution is only worth something if it can defend itself”

    And these idiots on the belly went down and beg to protect them. From whom? From the people? From the fascist gangs? Feel the end?
  32. Gunther
    Gunther 6 December 2015 12: 13 New
    +1
    ... Ukraine was convinced that it would not need nuclear weapons ...

    "God did not give horns to the thirsty cow," and the "Budapest Memorandum" is not legally binding because the parliaments of the guarantor countries did not approve it, as the popular wisdom says "Promising is not the same as getting married."
    PS
    Although on the head Turchinov’s horns would have looked ...
    1. S_last
      S_last 6 December 2015 13: 46 New
      +4
      Memorandum on guarantees of security in connection with the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (Budapest Memorandum) is an interstate document guaranteeing compliance with the provisions of the Final Act of the CSCE, the UN Charter and the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons of a State-Party to Ukraine [3]. It was signed on December 5, 1994 by the leaders of Ukraine, the USA, Russia and Great Britain.

      France and China, two other parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, which possessed nuclear weapons at the time of the signing of the Budapest Memorandum, provided similar guarantees by making the relevant statements, but did not put their signatures on this document [4].

      Russia officially rejects allegations of violation of the Budapest memorandum [29] and its applicability to the situation in Crimea [30]. On March 4, 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that if we assume that a revolution has occurred in Ukraine (Euromaidan), it should be assumed that “a new state has arisen on its territory”, in relation to which “Russia has not signed any binding documents” [31] . On April 1, the Russian Foreign Ministry stated that Russia was not obligated to “force part of Ukraine to remain in its composition against the will of the local population”, and the provisions of the Budapest memorandum do not apply to circumstances “resulting from the action of internal political or socio-economic factors”, to which the Foreign Ministry related events in Crimea. According to Russia's position, the common element of the Budapest memorandum and the concept of “negative guarantees” in its classical sense is only the obligation not to use and not to threaten the use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states, and this obligation of Russia to Ukraine “was not violated in any way”
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  34. Prince Bulls
    Prince Bulls 6 December 2015 12: 17 New
    0
    Over these idiots the whole world is already making fun of it, but they like it))))) laughing
  35. Ros 56
    Ros 56 6 December 2015 12: 18 New
    +1
    There is such a Russian expression - the god of horns does not give a vigorous cow. Well, if nature was mistaken, then the horns of such a cow were simply cut down. Apparently centuries-old coexistence did not benefit these freaks. I'm certainly not about all Ukrainians, and there are no outcast peoples. But you are not Ukrainian Turchinov, you just sold a beautiful country for 30 pieces of silver, and of course, everyone who supports you. You, shelupon, will leave history, and no one will remember you. One thing is sad, it will take more than a dozen years to rethink what you have done poorly, and to correct and bring the country back to normal, And these are human lives that will be spent not on building, but on cleansing the country from such an abomination like you and you like.

    PS remember, no money, no secluded corners will not save you from the court - both human and divine.
  36. capitosha1rang
    capitosha1rang 6 December 2015 12: 19 New
    0
    The usual practice is to pay for the spectacle.
    Today Ukraine is not a sight, a swamp.
    The Great Director found a new scene - Syria. Attention, it means money to where a world fire is about to erupt.
    What is Ukraine against this background - a languidly smoking little head!
  37. veksha50
    veksha50 6 December 2015 12: 25 New
    0
    "partners have not yet delivered to Kiev lethal weapons"...

    What kind of protection and from whom is he taldychit all the time ???

    Indeed, judging by his conversations, he needs not just lethal, but offensive weapons ...

    In the USSR, he would immediately be assigned a place for compulsory treatment in a psychiatric hospital ... pastor, etit ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 6 December 2015 13: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: veksha50
      What kind of protection and from whom is he taldychit all the time ???

      Indeed, judging by his conversations, he needs not just lethal, but offensive weapons ...

      What are you all about weapons? he asks the troops to enter the NATO! But one cannot directly say that the troops of Ukraine ... um, well, not the best army in Europe. repeat
      By the way, along the way ... Europe promised Ukraine several hundred lemons for the destruction of missiles, but did not pay. It was this favor that Azarov excavated at one time, before the signing of the association. Because Ukraine would have to sacrifice a lot, and the economy would have had a very hard time, they asked to return the debt BEFORE the association was signed. But .... the US took the lead, and the EU supported the coup. Apparently, Turchinov also remembered this debt, but not to admit that Azarov said about this. Hence Turchinov's "we were disarmed." And the EU is naive! did they think it would cost them cheaper than repaying the debt? Already so much have been thrown together with America in Ukraine! And for us ... "I drink, everything is not enough for me, I have become drunk ..." well, further down the text, as there T. Shmyga sang in "The Hussar Ballad".
  38. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 December 2015 12: 31 New
    +1
    “Strategic partners are not ready to defend Ukraine and you need to rely only on your own strength”

    The pastor was seriously worried. They stopped paying attention to Ukraine. With Peter, as if he did not climb and crawl, Obama does not say hello. Also in the 90s, nuclear weapons were taken out. Otherwise, Ukraine would now give it to everyone. Again complete assault (humanly just z.o.p.a.).
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    1. vitaliy.rnd
      vitaliy.rnd 6 December 2015 13: 11 New
      +2
      What game is the video from? )))
    2. Evver
      Evver 6 December 2015 16: 49 New
      0
      Come on... ! And not at all scary!

      And one more hotsa to ask: what about those "Forts", "Bulatov", BTR-4 and other wonderful cool devices?
  40. Ros 56
    Ros 56 6 December 2015 12: 39 New
    +5
    There is such a Russian expression - the god of horns does not give a vigorous cow. Well, if nature was mistaken, then the horns of such a cow were simply cut down. Apparently centuries-old coexistence did not benefit these freaks. I'm certainly not about all Ukrainians, and there are no outcast peoples. But you are not Ukrainian Turchinov, you just sold a beautiful country for 30 pieces of silver, and of course, everyone who supports you. You, shelupon, will leave history, and no one will remember you. One thing is sad, it will take more than a dozen years to rethink what you have done poorly, and to correct and bring the country back to normal, And these are human lives that will be spent not on building, but on cleansing the country from such an abomination like you and you like.

    PS remember, no money, no secluded corners will not save you from the court - both human and divine.
  41. Olegovi4
    Olegovi4 6 December 2015 12: 40 New
    0
    Well here again. All around are to blame, but not themselves kakly. Someone took something, someone promised something, but what did they do all their non-deposit? Traded, traded, traded.
    1. MATROSKIN-53
      MATROSKIN-53 6 December 2015 12: 56 New
      +1
      And they stole, stole, stole ...
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 6 December 2015 16: 01 New
      0
      With your permission, I’ll add a little- Crazy matches are not a toy, either burn yourself, or bring people trouble.
  42. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 6 December 2015 12: 43 New
    +1
    the pastor remembered about guarantees, well :)
    When withdrawing troops from Germany, we were also given many guarantees, and where are they?
    I can only say the following to jumping monkeys - when they persuaded them to abandon nuclear weapons, they were bred, and as time has shown, they did the right thing. monkeys with nuclear weapons are a threat to the world. any intermediate steps between "Homo sapiens" and the animal world should not possess technologies capable of destroying the world. what a monkey can do with a nuclear bomb can be predicted by looking at Erdogan's actions.
  43. BLOND
    BLOND 6 December 2015 12: 47 New
    0
    Poland's Defense Ministry plans to ask NATO to deploy US nuclear weapons on its territory. This was stated by the deputy head of the Polish military department Tomasz Shatkowski. According to the British newspaper The Guardian, the ministry is discussing the issue of including the territory of Poland in the "nuclear deterrent" program to increase the level of self-defense.

    so clean info about the kaklov brothers
  44. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 6 December 2015 12: 52 New
    +2
    I am afraid that they have nuclear weapons directed primarily against themselves and uncontrollable - this is their nuclear power plant. If everything is really so bad for them, as written in a recent article on VO, then we and the old Europe woman need to pray.
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  46. tinibar
    tinibar 6 December 2015 13: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: Oleg Chertkov
    the superpowers disarmed Ukraine, guaranteeing it protection if necessary, but did not really do anything when this need arose.

    And who yelled from the show-off Ukrii that they had the most powerful army in Europe? And for what kind of buoy are they protected then? That's right, they themselves will "overcome" everything.

    They never cease to amaze ... They are the greatest of the great ones (Ukrainians, damn it), or they took it from us, they promised us, they didn’t give us ... They let us snot, drool, they say, they offended us again! If only they would give money again, but forgive debts ...
  47. antiexpert
    antiexpert 6 December 2015 13: 01 New
    0
    and thinks that they are disarming the corpses in order to protect?
    no, disarm, then to destroy)))
  48. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 December 2015 13: 05 New
    +1
    Yes, Pastor, and you must protect your unfortunate Homeland. Inadequacies should not be given weapons (matches for children are not toys).
  49. Belarus
    Belarus 6 December 2015 13: 09 New
    +1
    Turchinov: Ukraine has been disarmed in its time, and now nobody wants to defend it


    Turchinov, stop whining like a woman, why do you need an anus? So go and defend the Kiev "power" with your backside, you are a native.
    1. flay
      flay 6 December 2015 21: 55 New
      +1
      [quote = Belarus] [quote]
      [Quote] Turchinov, stop whining like a woman, why do you need an anus? So go and defend the Kiev "power" with your backside, you are a native. [/ Quote]

      So they have a rear-wheel drive, - Lyashko, dared not only ......., but also to open his mouth, opposite the Kiev authorities. And she, power, only Lyashka perceived the previous pose laughing
  50. vitaliy.rnd
    vitaliy.rnd 6 December 2015 13: 12 New
    +1
    Ukraine, Ukraine ..... And what is it? Our President did not talk about her. Maybe she’s not already? I'll go google look.