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Finns go camping

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4 December, according to media reports, the head of the press service of the Finnish government, Markku Mantila, said that Finland would no longer comply with the 1947 Paris Peace Treaty of the Year. Earlier, in 1990, Finland had already announced the loss of force of the military provisions of the treaty, but in general it was not denounced as a whole, although it was actually no longer respected. The complete refusal of the contract is an event, one might say, a landmark one. Until now, none of the former Axis countries have openly disowned the postwar world so openly. Without too much drama, we can rightly say that the whole post-war world order is collapsing before our eyes, and the process is proceeding at an incredible speed.




Skeptics, of course, will immediately declare that there is nothing wrong with this statement of the Finns. Like, so they want to legitimize in fact a long-changing reality. In particular, purchases of German weapons (including Tanks Leopard-2), which has long been happening. In the end, Italy has ignored the same treaty for many years and is purchasing German submarines. But something does not fit with such a careless vision. Firstly, the rejection did not occur from any particular article or articles, but from the entire contract, which is fundamentally important. Secondly, this was announced openly, actually throwing the glove, and not somewhere else, namely in our direction. This is an application for something much more than just the right to purchase German tanks and armored vehicles.

It is strange that Moscow did not respond to such a direct challenge. The refusal of a peace treaty opens up broad opportunities for Finland to raise territorial claims. So wide that even in Kiev they will be filled with tears of emotion. This and continental parts of Karelia; and the region in the Arctic, which will give Finland access to the Arctic; and also islands in the Gulf of Finland, without which Petersburg turns out to be practically tightly locked from the sea. All of these territories still belonged to our neighbors in 1930x, and after the well-known events they passed to the USSR.

Finns go camping


Moreover, such a step directly opens the way to revising almost the entire world order, all peace treaties. We just have to start.

In fact, the Finns forget about a number of significant circumstances that can stand in the way of their grandiose undertaking. The first circumstance of Helsinki may well ignore, namely that the contract can be changed or canceled only with the consent of the UN Security Council. With the diplomatic support of Britain and the USA behind you, you can afford a lot.

Just in case, we recall the 22 article of the Peace Treaty of 1947:

Each of the military, naval and air articles of this Treaty will remain in force until it is changed in full or in part by agreement between the Allied and United States and Finland or, after Finland becomes a member of the United Nations - by agreement between the Security Council and Finland.

The second circumstance is much more difficult. This is a little-known Russian public Saimaa channel, the territory of which Finland rents from Russia. This channel connects the internal lakes of Suomi with the Baltic Sea. After the Winter War 1939-1940 The Soviet Union was transferred to part of Finnish territory in such a way that the external exit was under the control of Moscow, which agreed to lease its part of the channel to its neighbors. Even after the Great Patriotic War, where the Finns were allies of Hitler, the lease was still valid. As a transport branch, the canal is extremely important for Finland and as a response to the revision of the peace treaty, Moscow could well prohibit its further exploitation.



There are other measures of economic impact. So the Finnish industry is very dependent on Russian raw materials and the market. The main thing is to unequivocally voice these threats now (the golden rule - the threat is always more effective than its execution), and not when the nomination of territorial claims on Karelia and the accession of Helsinki to NATO will become a fait accompli. If the Russian Foreign Ministry confirms its reputation as “always late” here, the measures taken will, of course, worsen the financial situation of Finland, but Russia's strategic position will not improve in any way. As you know, the spoon is the road to dinner - and the most telling (though far from the only) example is Ukraine, where 23 diplomats did not understand what, and then, when the disaster struck, they shook their eyes with amazement.

At such moments, I recall with regret that the USSR had its own leased object in Finland - the base on the Porkkala peninsula, which operated until the 1956 year, although initially the contract was designed for 50 years. In essence, these two territories — Finnish in Russia and Soviet in Finland — were kept by the strongest mites from the last thoughtless steps. But what is not, is not ...

The demarche of the Finns can only be perceived in one way: it is a signal to the West, first of all, to Washington that Helsinki is ready to take part in the division of Russia, if conditions arise for that. There is no doubt that those who need it, heard this signal and correctly interpreted it.

Neutral Scandinavians - Finland and Sweden have recently been increasingly cooperating with the United States and NATO, even talking directly about joining the Alliance. The short-sightedness of local politicians and the position of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, which does not have the courage to clearly explain to unreasonable neighbors, what problems they can expect in this case, led to this situation.

If Finland’s refusal of the treaty had happened so in 2010, it would not have such delicate consequences as now, when the world winds are clearer. It is no secret that in the media of many countries around Russia, there has been more active talk that our country will soon face the fate of Syria, that is, civil war and disintegration. Regardless of how such moods correspond or do not correspond to the real state of affairs, we cannot simply ignore them, since they affect the mood and actions of the ruling classes in these countries. A line is being formed right now to get territorial and financial pieces from the bear, and the “friendly Finns” are in a hurry to stake out a place for themselves.
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  1. Walking
    Walking 7 December 2015 06: 47 New
    17
    Probably nothing will happen, Russia will remain silent, the channel will not be closed, willpower is not enough.
    1. Bath
      Bath 7 December 2015 07: 14 New
      +2
      No Hammers laughing
      1. Temples
        Temples 7 December 2015 08: 58 New
        32
        All these territories back in the 1930s belonged to our neighbors, and after the well-known events passed to the USSR.

        All Finland until the famous events of the 17th year was part of the Russian Empire.
        So that the Finns will die and will live on.
        And if they are in their right mind, they will be friends with us.
        Looking for an ass adventure is a modern lifestyle in Europe.
        But you shouldn’t joke with your head.
        1. fennekRUS
          fennekRUS 7 December 2015 16: 04 New
          +3
          Quote: Temples
          All Finland until the famous events of the 17th year was part of the Russian Empire

          C language directly removed. All claims from what time point to consider? And even the Poles can be reminded who gave them gifts
          1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
            Uncle VasyaSayapin 7 December 2015 19: 09 New
            +3
            Abolish the independence of Finland, settle the Finns evenly throughout the territory of the Russian Federation, give them travel names, such as Ivan Petrovich Kuznetsov, and after three generations everyone will ask: "And surely the Finns were a distinctive people? Or is it just a kind of Russian?"
        2. edge
          edge 7 December 2015 17: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: Temples
          So that the Finns will die and will live on.

          what if they again, like welcoming neighbors, want to share territories ... they don’t get used to
        3. Babalaykin
          Babalaykin 7 December 2015 21: 32 New
          +2
          in such a situation, they would not become the Finnish region of the Leningrad Region
    2. Glot
      Glot 7 December 2015 07: 19 New
      +7
      Probably nothing will happen, Russia will remain silent, the channel will not be closed, willpower is not enough.


      I think so too.
      Swallow, unfortunately.
    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 7 December 2015 08: 50 New
      +6
      Why close it? Money for rent is not superfluous.
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 7 December 2015 09: 16 New
        +2
        Why minus? Our country, what money is not needed now?
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 7 December 2015 09: 36 New
          34
          Quote: marlin1203
          Why minus? Our country, what money is not needed now?


          Do not pay attention, there are many draftsmen who are ready everywhere to shake a nuclear bomb! Everywhere you can only hear, let’s turn off the gas, then with calibers on the head, then with a preventive nuclear strike! And these same people then write that Putin has made every effort and Lelikus has disappeared! Actually, the author of an article from the same category, at the beginning of the war in Ukraine, he proposed to send troops and put everyone on the asphalt, as practice shows, so far our president is right, and not such woe-warriors who would have put the country on verge of a military catastrophe!
      2. Vend
        Vend 7 December 2015 10: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: marlin1203
        Why close it? Money for rent is not superfluous.

        Right.
        It is strange that Moscow didn’t react at all to such a direct call.
        Why react? Finland appeared thanks to the Bolsheviks. They will not arrange another Finnish one. And if they climb, they risk losing the country. Or they will declare war on us and immediately surrender. laughing
        1. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 7 December 2015 18: 01 New
          0
          Quote: Wend
          Or they
          Quote: Wend
          surrender.
          Quote: Wend
          and right there

          Quote: Wend
          will declare war on us

          And we will sit down to play chess. They say that chess was invented by one sage so that the ruler of the country would stop fighting with neighbors: it happened, the ruler became so carried away by the game of chess that he forgot about wars.
          1. fennekRUS
            fennekRUS 8 December 2015 16: 22 New
            0
            Quote: shasherin.pavel
            And we sit down to play chess

            Not the worst option. Not so rare in history, conflicts were resolved by an individual duel. Why not revive the practice? wink And resources are saved.
    4. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 7 December 2015 10: 04 New
      -1
      Quote: Hiking
      Probably nothing will happen, Russia will remain silent, the channel will not be closed, willpower is not enough.



      Tomatoes will stop buying and all wink
      1. SMikhalych
        SMikhalych 7 December 2015 10: 20 New
        +3
        Quote: The Cat
        Tomatoes will stop buying and all wink

        Stop selling vodka to Finnish tourists repeat
        1. edge
          edge 7 December 2015 17: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: SMikhalych
          Stop selling vodka to Finnish tourists

          .... why, let life be happy: otherwise it is so dreary to live. drinks
    5. avdkrd
      avdkrd 7 December 2015 12: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: Hiking
      Probably nothing will happen, Russia will remain silent, the channel will not be closed, willpower is not enough.

      Rather, it is not willpower that is not enough, but common sense is enough not to close it. We are not talking about territorial claims yet and I hope that the Finns will be smart enough not to put forward them. Finland did not take any hostile steps and in general the Finns are quite pragmatic (at least they have always been). In general, the Finns do not have revanchist sentiments, although, as elsewhere, there are frostbitten ones. It is difficult to force a well-fed Finn to go to Russia, and besides the fact that the Finns are well-fed, they are also smart (at least they do not jump on the Maidans and write petitions about the creation of the "Death Star"). They have no particular love for Russia, but the dependence in many industries is colossal.
  2. IAlex
    IAlex 7 December 2015 06: 49 New
    +7
    In general, it is obvious that a new campaign is being prepared east for profit, i.e. a decision has already been made, and in the camp of the enemy there is a fussy preparation with bargaining, who will get what after success and personal contribution to the campaign itself. If Sweden is already bustling with Finns, then the jackpot is promised to them standing ...

    "It is no secret that in the media of many countries around Russia, talk has intensified that our country will soon face the fate of Syria, that is, civil war and disintegration. Regardless of how such sentiments correspond or do not correspond to the real state of affairs,"

    The last 2 years have already shown all the weakness of the Russian Federation and the absolute absence of self-preservation reflexes in the government, in which Zh..A is covered in warmth in the west ...
    1. FiremamRescueS
      FiremamRescueS 7 December 2015 07: 55 New
      15
      Dates have been greyhound for a long time, but now it has become large-scale. However, I agree with the author: the new "Drang nach Osten" has been announced, albeit unofficially.
  3. rusaiaiBishkek
    rusaiaiBishkek 7 December 2015 06: 53 New
    +1
    the Oblomingo bird will fly to them.
    then territorial claims must be presented (to return to Finland the whole territory of Finland)
    1. SALLAK
      SALLAK 7 December 2015 08: 45 New
      +3
      Why shake the air and wave fists from the couch ?? In fact, without the official reaction of the Foreign Ministry there is nothing incomprehensible, and fortune-telling on coffee grounds in geopolitics is a thankless task ... there is nothing hysteria ... let it be announced ... we are waiting and watching ...
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 7 December 2015 08: 58 New
        +3
        That's it, article speculation is continuous. Well, even theoretically announced, so what? We can also make claims on the entire territory of Finland-Courland. Let’s claim that we will cross the border with each other)) The fact that the Finns, with a population of 5.5 million (this is less than St. Petersburg and the Lena oblast) will declare war is simply ridiculous wassat
        1. larand
          larand 7 December 2015 11: 37 New
          +5
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          The fact that the Finns, with a population of 5.5 million (less than St. Petersburg and the Lena oblast) will declare war is simply ridiculous wassat


          In 1939 it was no laughing matter. And now the Finns will have a bunch of assistants, if they begin.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 7 December 2015 15: 50 New
            0
            Quote: larand
            In 1939 it was no laughing matter. And now the Finns will have a bunch of assistants, if they begin.
            Ummm .. and at 39 haven't we started? And then there, too, a bunch of helpers were encouraging, including England and France, the whole corps promised, but no one had come to the war. Finns remembered it very well
            1. shasherin.pavel
              shasherin.pavel 7 December 2015 18: 10 New
              0
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              Ummm ... and in 39 haven't we started?

              That's just not a single self-respecting politician or historian in Finland has ever raised the question of who started the hostilities in the 1922 year and in the 1939 year, because they remember well how Manenheim dreamed about Finlandland from the Baltic Sea to the White Sea and the Studeny (Barents) Sea.
              1. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 7 December 2015 20: 23 New
                0
                Quote: shasherin.pavel
                That's just not a single self-respecting politician or historian in Finland has ever raised the question of who started the hostilities in 1922 and in 1939, because they remember well how Manenheim dreamed of Finland from the Baltic Sea to the White Sea and the Sea Studeny (Barents).

                But our historians raised and even Pykhalov, could not prove the opposite. The Mainil incident was beneficial exclusively to the USSR, this will be confirmed by anyone who has even studied the drop in this period of our history. Mannerheim never dreamed of anything like this, on the contrary he called on his government to accept the conditions for the exchange of territories.
              2. Rivares
                Rivares 7 December 2015 21: 02 New
                +1
                Quote: shasherin.pavel
                939, because they remember well how Manenheim dreamed of Finnland from the Baltic Sea to the White Sea and the Studeny (Barents) Sea.

                Greater delirium has not seen yet. When Stalin in 1939 proposed to exchange territories in an amicable way, Mannerheim was with both hands for! But the government then sat "democratic" henchmen from the empire of freedom, led by England. They then organized a war with a natural outcome.
          2. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 7 December 2015 20: 56 New
            -1
            And then it was not enough. I think it is necessary to threaten. They will start to snap back, cover the shop.
          3. Rivares
            Rivares 7 December 2015 21: 25 New
            0
            Quote: larand
            In 1939 it was no laughing matter. And now the Finns will have a bunch of assistants, if they begin.

            And now the Finns will have the same bunch of assistants as in 1939, if they begin. As there were a bunch of Georgians and Bendera’s assistants ... and not a single NATO military unit ..
            Otherwise, when NATO sees how its partners are scuffling, they will begin to think hard ...
      2. larand
        larand 7 December 2015 11: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: SALLAK
        In fact, without the official reaction of the Foreign Ministry there is nothing incomprehensible ...

        Do you think that the Ministry of Ballroom Dancing is capable of something. Over the past 15 years, the "successes" of foreign policy have led to the fact that the Russian Federation has no allies left. There are only "partners" around, as choreographer Lavrov likes to say. Only these partners have already prepared to tear us apart, while we waltzing, depicting "Versailles".
  4. Turbo rabbit
    Turbo rabbit 7 December 2015 07: 00 New
    +1
    About territorial claims. Definitely need to exhibit. Helsingfors is somehow louder than Helsinki
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 7 December 2015 08: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: Turbo-Rabbit
      Helsingfors is somehow louder than Helsinki

      do you like svenska mov? laughing
  5. brom
    brom 7 December 2015 07: 04 New
    +3
    Neutral Scandinavians - Finland and Sweden ...


    Finns are not Scandinavians, they have never been and never will be.
    1. Kibalchish
      7 December 2015 07: 27 New
      0
      In a broad sense - already
    2. Kibalchish
      7 December 2015 07: 36 New
      0
      There even Iceland enters
    3. Bluesman
      Bluesman 7 December 2015 08: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: brom
      Finns are not Scandinavians,

      like this? Who?...
      1. kil 31
        kil 31 7 December 2015 09: 18 New
        +8
        Quote: Bluesman
        Quote: brom
        Finns are not Scandinavians,

        like this? Who?...
        The Finno-Ugric group of peoples does not belong to the Scandinavians.
        1. Kibalchish
          7 December 2015 09: 32 New
          +3
          In ethnic terms - do not apply. In the political - more than.
          1. Rivares
            Rivares 7 December 2015 21: 10 New
            0
            Quote: Kibalchish
            In ethnic terms - do not apply. In the political - more than.

            Relate completely. By the way, in the Russian ethnic group, the Finno-Ugric stratum occupies 19% (haplogroup N3)
  6. KazakPatrol
    KazakPatrol 7 December 2015 07: 04 New
    +4
    Jackals gather in a flock !!!
  7. Svarog5570
    Svarog5570 7 December 2015 07: 16 New
    0
    We are constantly threatened, it’s upsetting that all this will affect ordinary people.
    1. python2a
      python2a 7 December 2015 17: 04 New
      +1
      And the sheep are always cut off their head without asking their consent. If the people are silent, it means that they unconditionally support the actions of their government, or they are afraid, or indifferent to everything that happens.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 December 2015 07: 20 New
    -1
    Refusal of a peace treaty opens up wide opportunities for Finland to make territorial claims

    It was already said once on the topic of territorial claims - "They will get ears from a dead donkey, and not ...".
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 7 December 2015 08: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It was once said on the topic of territorial claims


      The author, of course, is a scammer, but one of his statements seems interesting to me: "a threat is more effective than its execution."
      Since Finland has not yet withdrawn from the treaty affecting the interests of Russia (all the more, it has not done this unilaterally), it is enough to send a note to the Finnish Ministry of Foreign Affairs such that "in case ... all responsibility falls on Finland" and that will be enough for now ...
    2. Bluesman
      Bluesman 7 December 2015 08: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It was already said once on the topic of territorial claims - "They will get ears from a dead donkey, and not ...".

      Yes no, that’s understandable. It seems to me that the emphasis is more on necrosis of international treaties, on which, in fact, the post-war world order is based. Revisions are coming, apparently)
  9. zekaze1980
    zekaze1980 7 December 2015 07: 20 New
    +5
    The mistakes of past warriors, those who raised a hand against us should at least disappear, cruelly, but fairly. Everyone knows that Russia did not go to the west in a full-scale war, and the fact that we can create empires practically without a warrior is how we were born that way, and if we envy, then please silently.
  10. La-5
    La-5 7 December 2015 07: 22 New
    +4
    For 60 years, Japan has had territorial claims against Russia, and nothing is working like Japan. Russia has no allies, and in the event of a weakening country, there will be many who want to chop off a piece without territorial claims.
    1. Bluesman
      Bluesman 7 December 2015 09: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: La-5
      Russia has no allies, and in the event of a weakening country, there will be many who want to chop off a piece without territorial claims.

      Their jackals arguments are as follows: Russia is too huge, to effectively manage such a territory within the framework of a monolithic state impossible... And then - according to Sharikov: "take everything and divide!" (C) between effective managers. And they do not understand at all Putin, who actively resists - instead of babysitting liberal talkers and giving away pieces of territory - he is building submarines and other arsenal. An amazingly stubborn person ...
      1. anip
        anip 7 December 2015 09: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Bluesman
        Russia is too huge, it is impossible to effectively manage such a territory within the framework of a monolithic state.

        Don't the last 26 years give them the right to say that?
        1. Bluesman
          Bluesman 7 December 2015 09: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: anip
          Don't the last 26 years give them the right to say that?

          give, of course. They worked hard to kill our coordinate system with our own hands - from ideology to administration and management. Of course, the matter has not yet reached an analogue of the US "corporate fascism", but the fact that the reformers have largely succeeded, it seems to me, is an obvious fact.
        2. yehat
          yehat 7 December 2015 20: 19 New
          +1
          No, they don’t.
          here there is confusion in concepts, because Russia’s problems are not due to size,
          but because of the freaks in power. One activity of the Central Bank is worth it, and it is far from alone.
          1. kalibr
            kalibr 7 December 2015 20: 30 New
            0
            And the bad people in power are wound up with dampness, of course?
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 7 December 2015 16: 22 New
        +4
        Yes, with any, effective or ineffective, management in the Russian Federation, as, by the way, in Canada, Australia, a significant part of the country's territory does not need daily management. After all, our vast territories are unpopulated or extremely poorly populated. And in most of these territories there will never be a large population and (or) active economic activity. Of 17 million sq. km of our territory, real economic activity, real day-to-day administration, etc., is carried out for about 5-6 million square meters. km. territory. Geographers have such a concept of "effective territory of the country". I quote: "An effective territory is the territory of a state without extreme conditions for human life. Climatic zones are considered unsuitable where the average annual temperature is below two degrees of frost, and the height above sea level is over 2000 meters. According to this indicator, Brazil, the USA, Australia and China. The longest and coldest country - Russia - ranks fifth. In Russia, only a third of the territory (5 million sq. Km.) Meets the criteria for an effective territory. Here, the creation of production requires high costs per unit of production. The longest European state Ukraine possesses an exceptionally high proportion of effective territory in the total area of ​​the country, but this circumstance, given an ineffective technology of ruling, insignificantly affects the welfare of the state. " Source- http://dergachev.ru/Russian-encyclopaedia/index.html
      3. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 7 December 2015 18: 20 New
        -1
        Quote: Bluesman
        Their jackals arguments are as follows:
        we brought our countries to bankruptcy, which means we can bring Russia, why manage something, when even something small can be torn off.
  11. Glot
    Glot 7 December 2015 07: 23 New
    +2
    The demarche of the Finns can only be perceived in one way: it is a signal to the West, first of all, to Washington that Helsinki is ready to take part in the division of Russia, if conditions arise for that. There is no doubt that those who need it, heard this signal and correctly interpreted it.


    I doubt that the Finns themselves decided to go for it. This is precisely what they did on signal from the West.
    First, the Turks fell the plane, checking us for lice. And what are we? S-400 delivered and threatened. And all ...
    Now the Finns have been instructed to make this statement. Now they will see how we will respond to the subsequent development of events, and they will follow. We’ll threaten again, only now the Finns?
    What will be the third move of our "friends" from the West?
  12. inkass_98
    inkass_98 7 December 2015 07: 36 New
    +2
    Kabardin in his repertoire: "The plaster is being removed, the client is leaving!" (FROM). You never know what was squeezed from the Finns at the end of the Winter War? So let's remember that all of Finland (as well as half of Poland) was part of the Empire, they got "free" after the revolution. On this basis, territorial claims can be much greater, and Helsingfors as a naval base and the headquarters of the Baltic Fleet has long traditions and looks much more profitable than St. Petersburg.
    Yes, and the Finnish mood is not yet on the side of NATO, they still understand that it is more profitable to trade with Russia and attract tourists than to fight with a completely logical result.
    1. Kibalchish
      7 December 2015 07: 40 New
      +2
      1. The mood of the ruling class is more important - and he clearly wants to join NATO. Similarly in Sweden.

      2. Do you propose to cease to recognize the independence of Finland?
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 7 December 2015 09: 09 New
        -1
        Quote: Kibalchish
        1. The mood of the ruling class is more important - and he clearly wants to join NATO. Similarly in Sweden.
        They want to join NATO, which means they have to put territorial claims in one place
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 7 December 2015 07: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: inkass_98
      "free" got after the revolution. On this basis

      The base looks like?
      1. SMikhalych
        SMikhalych 7 December 2015 10: 22 New
        0
        Quote: sa-ag
        The base looks like?

        Thoroughly!!! wink
    3. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 7 December 2015 16: 40 New
      0
      312 km² is the territory of modern Poland. 679 128 km² - the territory of the Kingdom of Poland. Still, not half, but about two fifths of the territory of modern Poland. Although, if you add the Podlaskie Voivodeship, which basically coincides territorially with that part of the Bialystok region of the BSSR, which was transferred to Poland in 500, then there will be about half. It is just that Bialystok and its surroundings (once part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania) never after the partition of Poland were part of the Kingdom of Poland, nor was it considered an ethnic Polish territory.
  13. Born in USSR
    Born in USSR 7 December 2015 07: 44 New
    +4
    Everything is very simple. The economy rules. For money, the Finns will tear their morons. But our government must be dispersed for a long time. They only know how to discuss there, the real work is zero. For what they are making money and not small is not clear. They would have to sell everything that was left and to the west to blame, there is not enough mind for more. If Putin asked the result of this work, then he would have sat on the bunk for a long time.
  14. Afinogen
    Afinogen 7 December 2015 07: 59 New
    +2
    Right now, a line is forming of those who want to receive territorial and financial pieces from the bear, and the “friendly Finns” are in a hurry to stake their place.



    They will receive ears from a dead donkey, but not territorial and financial pieces.
  15. vladimirw
    vladimirw 7 December 2015 08: 15 New
    -1
    Not responding harshly to a downed plane, the Russian government set the people under attack from all sides.
    1. Afinogen
      Afinogen 7 December 2015 08: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: vladimirw
      Not responding harshly to a downed plane, the Russian government set the people under attack from all sides.



      And what is tough in your understanding? Start a war? So the Americans and came up with this provocation for the sake of this, they no longer know how to start a war, it did not work in dill, Russia did not get involved in the war. We will beat the Turks economically, this is much better.
  16. Snail N9
    Snail N9 7 December 2015 08: 17 New
    +1
    Yes ... Something is slowly, "quietly" being prepared by our "sworn partners", the author is right.
  17. Basil50
    Basil50 7 December 2015 08: 26 New
    +1
    In the culture of the West, long names ennoble and now we already have * lengthenings * of the names of peoples and cities. Why does disrespect for one’s spelling and traditions become the rule? In no language of the world does spelling and tradition fall under other people's rules. As an example, the name of the people is Finns. If they say that it is correct to write: * Finn *, then the woman should be: - * Finn *, so no.
    Finns appeared in the Baltic states thanks to our ancestors, who did not destroy strangers, allowed to live nearby. The Finns bred and since 1918 began to * thank * all * Russian-speaking *, massively cutting out * non-Finns * in honor of independence. Domestic Nazism in Finland has recently spread among all segments of the population, you see and will again become the basis of domestic policy.
  18. vitya1945
    vitya1945 7 December 2015 08: 31 New
    +1
    They probably remember Stalin
    "Since we cannot transfer Leningrad from the border, we must transfer Goanitsa from Leningrad."
    If you forgot to remind ... politely.
    1. Afinogen
      Afinogen 7 December 2015 08: 46 New
      0
      Quote: vitya1945
      If you forgot to remind


      They also need to be reminded that all of Finland was part of Russia. If you want to revise the old treaties, then we can also revise and return all of Finland to Russia smile
      1. Scraptor
        Scraptor 8 December 2015 04: 13 New
        0
        Quote: Athenogen
        Quote: vladimirw
        Not responding harshly to a downed plane, the Russian government set the people under attack from all sides.


        And what is tough in your understanding? Start a war? So the Americans and came up with this provocation for the sake of this, they no longer know how to start a war, it did not work in dill, Russia did not get involved in the war. We will beat the Turks economically, this is much better.
  19. EvilLion
    EvilLion 7 December 2015 08: 32 New
    +3
    Nomination of territorial claims automatically makes NATO membership impossible.
  20. oracul
    oracul 7 December 2015 08: 45 New
    +2
    Finland went to this for a long time, in spite of any of our curtsies in their direction. Well, looking for one place adventure. I think they will. It is not the first time that the patience of Russians, their unpretentiousness and quick-wittedness have been tested. The only difference is that in the case when the hour "H" comes, Finland and all the "jackals" will not have time to croak. However, it looks like the US is trying to implement a bear-hunting scenario: the pack barks and tries to bite, and the hunter gets close to a safe distance to deliver the fatal blow. One subtlety - for this we need to be driven into a corner, otherwise ... This is what they are afraid of.
  21. SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 7 December 2015 08: 50 New
    0
    Don't want to honor the contract? Want to make a claim? The question immediately arises, what happens to the "Wishlist"? How big is it? The fact that flocks of those who want to grab a piece of jackals roam around Russia is clear to everyone! We just need to be ready to tear off this "Wishlist" in time. Or maybe the Finns have started a subtle game and want to return to the Russian Empire, then we need to help these "lost" guys in every way! And Russia has enough of them in relation to Finland!
  22. Bluesman
    Bluesman 7 December 2015 08: 50 New
    +2
    I remember that the irredentist idea of ​​"Greater Finland" meant the annexation (in addition to Karelia) of the northern regions of Norway and Sweden, plus all of Estonia and the Petersburg region (Ingria). Some hot-blooded scumbags threatened to reach the Yenisei. But there is something very doubtful that this idea of ​​total suomization was obtained from naphthalene. The author's vector about territorial claims is, in my opinion, too harsh.
  23. Megatron
    Megatron 7 December 2015 08: 54 New
    +1
    Lakhtari are still those fascists, many of us were rotted in concentration camps.
    By the way, their nationalism is very strongly developed, just talking about it is not accepted.
  24. Izotovp
    Izotovp 7 December 2015 08: 59 New
    0
    We will always have it: there may be some kind of reaction along the line of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, most likely sluggish. Maybe even in the State Duma they will accept some kind of letter, maybe even some sanctions (oh, a miracle!) Will be taken against them ... they still will not fulfill and will not create normal pressure.
  25. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 7 December 2015 09: 20 New
    +2
    Behind this story are the ears of the USA. They carefully surround us with incendiary conflicts, in the hope that we will not be able to withstand the tension on all fronts at once.
  26. 72jora72
    72jora72 7 December 2015 09: 25 New
    +6
    The postwar world order has been cracking at the seams for a long time. The whole political world is falling apart like a house of cards. And by the way, Russia is far from the first contender for the role of organ donor, in the modern world, any country (including the United States) will be torn apart by neighbors, just give an excuse ........
    PS Guarantors of the country's integrity are the army and navy, there are simply no other recipes in the modern world of boughs.
  27. LPD17
    LPD17 7 December 2015 09: 46 New
    +6
    And how can the Russian Foreign Ministry not be "always late"? Look at the Foreign Ministry's forge of MGIMO personnel ... Get off your bag. Bentleys, jaguars, porsches, merciers, behi. Pure foreign speech of students, like native, but Russian, no, no, and even with a stammer. Children of foreign workers, and the top of the Russian bureaucracy, business, crime. Excellent personnel to defend the interests of the country, but which country?
    A brilliant graduate, Ksenia obshchak.
  28. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 7 December 2015 09: 50 New
    -4
    Two nuclear bombs are enough to completely neutralize the Finns.
    They should clearly understand that there is neither time, nor desire, nor means to tinker with them, and if they should be on their side, there will be a series of tactical nuclear attacks on the infrastructure in their territory.
    There are also no resources to develop from the ground, so it is advisable to use "dirty" bombs.
    1. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych 7 December 2015 10: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Volzhanin
      There are also no resources to develop from the ground, so it is advisable to use "dirty" bombs.

      Regarding the resources from the land, which are supposedly "" absent "- Dates have good deposits of silver, and the Creator did not offend their territory with diamonds fellow This is me as "a little" repeat understanding in this case I state.
      And leaving the sofa with "dirty" bombs is easy - it's like a slipper to a cat lol
      1. Volzhanin
        Volzhanin 7 December 2015 11: 19 New
        -2
        Silver and diamonds can shove themselves (or Anglo-Saxons) in one place. We do not need.
        Yes, let them do what they want, only know that in the case of dirty tricks towards Russia, only their radiation will remain from their 5,5 million people. Well, do not drive them through the forests and swamps. The terrain is terribly complicated. You can pick them out for decades. Is it necessary? Isn’t it easier to protect yourself from this northern side by constructing a lifeless space there?

        On the other hand, this is my private opinion and our authorities can continue to continue to selflessly lick mattresses.
    2. Bluesman
      Bluesman 7 December 2015 10: 43 New
      +4
      Quote: Volzhanin
      Two nuclear bombs are enough to completely neutralize the Finns.

      figase ... "words are not a boy, but a husband .." (c)
      It’s scary to imagine how thoroughly you approach the problem of cockroaches in the kitchen ...
      1. Volzhanin
        Volzhanin 7 December 2015 11: 22 New
        -2
        The behavior of the geyropets just exactly corresponds to the cockroach in the kitchen.
        And there is no reason not to do with them the same way as with annoying cockroaches.
      2. SMikhalych
        SMikhalych 7 December 2015 11: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Bluesman
        It’s scary to imagine how thoroughly you approach the problem of cockroaches in the kitchen ...

        Lavrenty Palych just a propeller in a coffin spins with envy laughing
  29. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 7 December 2015 09: 56 New
    +2
    Yes, my friends, we are preparing a continuous front from Afghanistan to the Barents.
    http://konsul-777-999.livejournal.com/7048830.html
    In general, 70 years have passed, the tattered skins have finally healed and the whole pack wants to take part in the bear's hunt again. A lesson for the bear - this time not to engage in useless re-education of dogs and jackals, but to send all this stinking flock at once to the "Land of the Happy Hunt". As old Flint said, the dead don't bite
  30. tundra
    tundra 7 December 2015 11: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: SMikhalych
    Stop selling vodka to Finnish tourists

    Do not sell vodka
    But do not give a hangover
    Let them suffer laughing
  31. Vladimir65
    Vladimir65 7 December 2015 12: 00 New
    -2
    The situation is aggravating. On the one hand, the year 2017 (1917) looms, and on the other, 1939. Russia has weakened and wolves have a desire to tear pieces. Spells are not enough, serious measures must be taken especially within the country.
    1. provincial
      provincial 7 December 2015 12: 11 New
      0
      "Russia has weakened and ..." I would like to know how and where Russia has weakened.
      1. Vladimir65
        Vladimir65 7 December 2015 22: 52 New
        +1
        Russia was weakened by the spirit of the people and the lack of cohesion. Russia has been devoured by the worm of consumerism and corruption. In a difficult period, to declare a program of desovietization in the country and at the same time exalt the destroyers by building palaces, it is similar to death. Therefore, such as Finns, Poles, etc., smelled blood.
    2. Zheka40
      Zheka40 7 December 2015 13: 09 New
      0
      you are sick, rather hopeless
  32. Zheka40
    Zheka40 7 December 2015 13: 08 New
    0
    Unwind on the second front.
  33. Jack
    Jack 7 December 2015 13: 12 New
    0
    Every month our army becomes stronger read Western analytes. They directly write that it will be 3-4 more years and it will be too late. That’s what the Supreme takes time. Unlike some, he doesn’t want millions of victims again. We provoke from all sides, but for now endure humiliation and put together an alliance. And even in such circumstances, Putin manages to kick the west. Our General Staff counted a long time ago and therefore modernization should bring the army into combat readiness by 18. NATO didn’t turn out to be at the same time at the same time introducing discord into the forces, but there are some cowards. EVERY PEACEFUL MONTH IS A NEW AIRCRAFT TANK ROCKET MODERNIZATION OF INDUSTRY ETC.
  34. Jack
    Jack 7 December 2015 13: 28 New
    0
    Nothing changes in this world. In the Far East, Japan is in the south of Turkey, and there are Central Asia Ukraine, too, are Finns. Old man is immediately in the bushes. WE NEED TO BELIEVE IN RUSSIA AND SO WILL WIN!
  35. antikilller55
    antikilller55 7 December 2015 13: 29 New
    0
    Yes, let them buy German weapons, the flag (Finnish) in their hands, it’s one thing to buy iron and with a dumbbell to get out of contracts and quite another to climb into a real brawl, especially against Russian. Their gut is thin.
  36. xomaNN
    xomaNN 7 December 2015 14: 06 New
    0
    Ek as the Finns are emboldened, hope that a remake of the Soviet-Finnish war of 1939-40 to arrange?
  37. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 7 December 2015 15: 56 New
    +1
    All the same, no country has fulfilled this agreement ...
  38. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 7 December 2015 16: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    Quote: marlin1203
    Why minus? Our country, what money is not needed now?


    Do not pay attention, there are many draftsmen who are ready everywhere to shake a nuclear bomb! Everywhere you can only hear, let’s turn off the gas, then with calibers on the head, then with a preventive nuclear strike! And these same people then write that Putin has made every effort and Lelikus has disappeared! Actually, the author of an article from the same category, at the beginning of the war in Ukraine, he proposed to send troops and put everyone on the asphalt, as practice shows, so far our president is right, and not such woe-warriors who would have put the country on verge of a military catastrophe!

    I agree completely. And it would be better for Kabardin to write more articles on historical topics. An article about the same Paris Peace Treaty was very level. And the author seems to write articles on the topic of the day on emotions alone.
  39. Koliamba_TV
    Koliamba_TV 7 December 2015 17: 05 New
    0
    Finns go camping
    Today, 06: 32 Print
    On December 4, according to media reports, the head of the Finnish government’s press service, Markku Mantila, announced that Finland would no longer comply with the 1947 Paris Peace Treaty.

    Rightly noted. This applies not only to the Finns, but also to the countries of Europe. They (European politicians + our neighbors Finns) will not understand in any way that if you start the division, then even greater conflicts will arise, each country will begin to declare that it will once - something belonged and here it will not be possible to avoid military conflicts. Instead of starting negotiations, the Europeans only aggravate everything, and then blame everything on Russia: "they say Russia does not want to cooperate." Horror, and that's all!
  40. Old warrior
    Old warrior 7 December 2015 17: 40 New
    +2
    Pine tree on the slopes curls
    Frontier Mean Outlook
    Take us suomi beauty
    In a necklace of transparent lakes! (C) Song of the times of the Finnish War.
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 7 December 2015 19: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: Old Warrior
      Pine tree on the slopes curls
      Frontier Mean Outlook
      Take us suomi beauty
      In a necklace of transparent lakes! (C) Song of the times of the Finnish War.

  41. xomaNN
    xomaNN 7 December 2015 19: 38 New
    +1
    It would be better if the "drunk" authors continued to go to St. Petersburg - to carry the Finns. This business has been alive since Soviet times.
  42. TOR2
    TOR2 7 December 2015 19: 48 New
    +2
    This fuss is not all out of nowhere. It is necessary to drive "Aifonov and K" before it is too late.
  43. pettabyte
    pettabyte 7 December 2015 20: 24 New
    0
    Quote: Temples
    was part of the Russian Empire.
    So that the Finns will die and will live on.
    And if they are in their right mind, they will be friends with us.
    Looking for an ass adventure is a modern lifestyle in Europe.


    Finns are not needed, let them fall in geyroppu, or die. And the territory must be returned to us.
  44. Sirius-2
    Sirius-2 7 December 2015 20: 37 New
    +1
    I am so shocked by the behavior of the Finns that I think in the case of our Victory they pay with their sovereignty. So even the ears of a dead donkey are a pity to give.
  45. Dimmedroll
    Dimmedroll 7 December 2015 22: 07 New
    0
    The author pulled a lot, so he was wrong.
  46. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 8 December 2015 00: 06 New
    0
    The article describes the Russian Foreign Ministry very accurately. my opinion is a herd of idlers squandering the potential accumulated in the USSR. And Lavrov is completely "resting on his laurels" ... And all this stems from the president's inability to select, assign cadres, set tasks for them and ASK for failures ... In general, if the Finns have begun to sharpen their teeth on Russia, then the case is accepted a serious turnover ... and war is inevitable ... even if Russia now begins to repent and disarm and give up its territory and property, it is still planned for destruction and war. The united Europe will fight as usual, the psi will be in ambush ...
  47. mivail
    mivail 8 December 2015 00: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Bath
    No Hammers laughing

    No I.V. Stalin, national traitors divorced immeasurably.
  48. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 8 December 2015 00: 21 New
    +1
    Refuse from the post-war world order? .... And since when did the Russian province allow itself to be disclosed to the metropolis ?!
  49. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 9 December 2015 20: 40 New
    0
    They beat the Finns many times, again we will be a bit! soldier
  50. Sanyarik33
    Sanyarik33 10 December 2015 10: 30 New
    0
    but where are they going, hot Finnish guys?))) they need to fight with refugees now, there are more than half of the wild inadequate people and ISIS supporters. So they will have enough worries without this, for a long time)))