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Who are the United States fighting

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An article was published in the Spanish “EL MUNDO” yesterday PABLO PARDO "The United States, a country fighting against itself."


The country is unleashing a real internal war in which 90 people die every day from shots.

Every 33 of the day, the death toll becomes equal to the number of September 11 victims.

Particularly sharp controversy flared up after the last tragedy, when 14 people were killed in the center of care for the disabled and disabled in the California city of San Bernardino.

Barack Obama 3 December announced that "at this moment we still do not know why this terrible event took place." According to the president, "the attack may be linked to terrorism, although it may be related to labor disputes." Republican senator and presidential candidate Marco Rubio considered this “Islamic terrorism.” His rival Ted Cruz described the event as "proof that we are in a war."

In the war with whom? Obviously, the United States is in a war with itself. This is a country in which 31.000 people die from shots every year. Of these, 12.000 killed and 19.000 suicides. Xnumx dead by day. Every two months, the number of gunshot victims is greater than the number of Americans killed in Iraq. And every 90 of a day dies just as much as 33-S.

Many Americans do not like to think that the problem is in their own home. And the best example is again the San Bernardino massacre. Since the identification of the attackers as having an Arabic origin, the stamp "terrorism" was assigned instantly. Although the attacker himself, Farukh, was born and raised in the United States. The rhetoric in the media changed as quickly as the opinion of the American president.

From myself I want to add that, having such serious internal problems, it would probably be more appropriate to address them within the country, and not to carry this painful and perverted democracy to the whole world on the wings of bombers.

Interesting attitude of the Spaniards to this issue. Here are some comments left on the article.

Luisgaite. Leave the Americans. So they want to live. They have no confusion in killing people outside the US, in other countries. This is their favorite sport. They will elect Trump as president because he is the only one who promises that he will allow them to kill everyone who is not a true American, and will be just a “duty free” free from morality and conscience, as always.

francisco_bravo_vivas. Although every two months inside the United States kills more people than 11-s because of the shots, I do not see American fighters bombarding any area of ​​their own country, as they do in countries like Syria. Maybe this is a deliberate double game?
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  1. Vend
    Vend 8 December 2015 10: 40
    +9
    It’s better not to ask why the United States is fighting, but for whom? For yourself and your pocket.
    1. PIN
      PIN 8 December 2015 10: 50
      -8
      The Anglo-Saxons are holding the United States precisely in order to drain when necessary, and stay clean! PI-AR managers! And Russia, pure nature, PROVIDE (5th part of nature!)! To resettle yourself and the RIGHT (rule, slave, get high! Drink wine (perennial, such as cooler, dolches and gabbans "love"). The rest are dirt, working! And even more gray cardinals are MASS migrants! That's who is hiding behind the Anglo type. ..
      1. Baikal
        Baikal 8 December 2015 10: 54
        14
        As for me - there they care. When the UWB, as a result of the civil war, will be littered with the corpses of its citizens on the roof, when there will be massive famine and catastrophes - this will be, at least, historically correct.
        What I wish them.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 8 December 2015 12: 33
          +3
          Quote: Baikal
          As for me - there they care. When the UWB, as a result of the civil war, will be littered with the corpses of its citizens on the roof, when there will be mass famine and catastrophes - this will be, at least, historically correct. What I wish them.

          Along the way, this scenario, as possible, is not ruled out by those in power in the United States, in connection with which a bunch of new prisons have been built, a great many double plastic coffins have been purchased, and the "peacemaker" Obama signed a decree about the possibility of using American armed forces inside the country.
          They smell mattresses that the probability of a social explosion is great ...
          At one time, VO had a good article on this subject - I recommend:
          http://topwar.ru/9410-zachem-amerika...yh-grobov.html
      2. nemec55
        nemec55 8 December 2015 11: 26
        0
        Shtirlitsze wassat ento who dared so you fuck up brains laughing
    2. Tor5
      Tor5 8 December 2015 10: 56
      +2
      If income is dearer to them than human lives - this is their choice.
      1. Themi30
        Themi30 8 December 2015 11: 12
        +1
        Tor5
        Which choice and whose? my choice is to ban cars in Russia, from them we have more people dying per year, much more (to the question of who is fighting with whom). You’ll simply be knocked down or flew into the forehead upon leaving for the oncoming lane and will not be asked for your opinion. So there, they go to school and shoot without asking for opinions.
        Yes, income is the most expensive, so in any country in the world, nobody needs your life in government and business. It is surprising that you think that our human life is more expensive than income. Do you think the firearm is not for sale with us for this reason? Well this is naive.
    3. venaya
      venaya 8 December 2015 10: 57
      +4
      Vend "the United States is not fighting, but for whom? For yourself and your pocket"- It should be noted that as a result of these wars, the United States has raised its economy and created conditions in which the whole world is only engaged in what is working for them. The federal reserve alone is worth something."
      1. unsinkable
        unsinkable 8 December 2015 11: 19
        +3
        Quote: venaya
        The federal reserve alone is worth what.

        I’m not an economist, so it’s strange for me that with an external debt of $ 3 trillion, they have the most powerful economy. The truth they put on this debt. Only chaos and wars keep them. Without this, their economy will fall apart with a blown dollar. (Not me invented)
        1. Al_oriso
          Al_oriso 8 December 2015 12: 33
          +1
          The opinion of the leading economists in the world (or the majority) boils down to the fact that the dollar is constantly bloating and is about to burst. To prevent this from happening, the American government (? _Masons_?) Is forced to provoke military conflicts, sabotage, provocations, epidemics (AIDS), and in the most extreme case - global wars.

          This makes it possible to weaken many countries of the world and start to flood them again with their own dollar, which is printing at a frantic speed.

          Any civil strife or local conflict does not go unnoticed by the United States, they immediately stretch their dollar tentacles there. America is hated everywhere, but forced to obey.
          1. olimpiada15
            olimpiada15 8 December 2015 16: 07
            0
            The dollar is bloating, but will not burst, while it is accepted in all countries, which means it will never burst !!!
            The dollar kills the economies of the world, the real solvency of the dollar = US GDP, and the rest of the volume of printed dollars is nothing more than a paper coupon presented for priority sales in all countries of the world.
            The mechanism of fooling the whole world lies in the fact that countries print national currency for their economies, but in reality the national currency depreciates on the volume of the purchased dollar.
    4. 222222
      222222 8 December 2015 12: 38
      +1
      Wend (2) RU Today, 10:40
      Better to ask not with whom the US is fighting, but for whom? For yourself and your pocket "
      They don’t fight. They are creating CHAOS all over the world .. and they are sitting on top of their puppets. That's their whole strategy. But it works only on them .. laughing
  2. izya top
    izya top 8 December 2015 10: 45
    +6
    Every 33 days, the death toll becomes equal to the number of victims on September 11
    and it’s not a pity already exceptional am
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 8 December 2015 10: 49
      +4
      Quote: izya top
      and it’s not a pity already exceptional

      let them buy even more weapons, and at every convenient and inconvenient case, they scorch their neighbors. Yes, and in the mood for random passers-by
    2. dison
      dison 8 December 2015 11: 09
      +3
      Yes, they also do not mind. The world "hucksters" have long calculated that there will not be enough earthly resources for all people, so the population must be reduced, and they do not care who it is, even if it is their own Americans.
    3. Shark Lover
      Shark Lover 8 December 2015 12: 04
      +2
      Yes, it’s a pity. It would be better if 50 bankers and other club members were isolated or leaked.
  3. Magic archer
    Magic archer 8 December 2015 10: 46
    +3
    And these are just the cases of mass executions! Somehow I watched a program about the New York police. There are at least 10 killings a day, well, if you take disassemblies of colored gangs, then all 20 and more. As long as the weapons are sold so freely and whoever can buy them, this will continue. IMHO
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 8 December 2015 11: 47
      0
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And these are just the cases of mass executions! Somehow I watched a program about the New York police. There are at least 10 killings a day, well, if you take disassemblies of colored gangs, then all 20 and more. As long as the weapons are sold so freely and whoever can buy them, this will continue. IMHO

      There is a double-edged sword. They cannot abolish the free sale of weapons. Some say "you see how many scumbags kill" it is necessary to ban the sale of weapons, others say "you see how many scumbags kill" I need a weapon to shoot back. A closed circle.
  4. cergey51046
    cergey51046 8 December 2015 10: 47
    +2
    What do not you understand? The USA is stealthily fighting with Russia. They are openly afraid.
  5. sever.56
    sever.56 8 December 2015 10: 47
    12
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  6. Penetrator
    Penetrator 8 December 2015 10: 47
    +7
    Lord, let them cut themselves out! I propose to establish a humanitarian supply of small arms for the poor of the US population. Naturally, followed by free distribution. At the same time, we will unload the warehouses of the mobile reserve from Nagans and mosin smile
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 8 December 2015 10: 58
      +2
      Quote: Penetrator
      Naturally, followed by free distribution.

      If possible, then the USA arms mafia will go bankrupt, order a requiem.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 December 2015 10: 48
    +3
    They would be fucking themselves. What are they imposing their way of life on the whole world?
  8. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 8 December 2015 10: 48
    +3
    But what does the United States have to do with it, because they themselves have long been under the yoke of "international corporations" and these corporations do not care who to kill for the sake of money: Americans, Africans or, at worst, Syrians, so long as the cash flow does not become scarce! The puppeteers, as always, are in the shadows and it is almost impossible to get to the real organizers of this "bloody massacre", and will the puppets appointed by them want to do it!
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 December 2015 10: 53
    +2
    The United States is at war with itself

    Those killed in the United States from surplus weapons are residents of this country. Therefore, here the slogan of building a "democratic" society does not roll and the government (ie, yourself) cannot be overthrown. Therefore, it would be more correct to say that the United States, in its struggle for world leadership, has completely forgotten about its internal problems. But on this issue, let Obama, Kerry and the rest of the "exceptional" gang have a headache.
  10. bionik
    bionik 8 December 2015 10: 54
    +3
    The country is unleashing a real internal war in which 90 people die every day from shots.

    Beat your own so that strangers are afraid.
  11. Frigate
    Frigate 8 December 2015 10: 59
    -7
    Luisgaite. Leave the Americans. So they want to live. They have no confusion in killing people outside the United States, in other countries. This is their favorite sport.

    Well, yes, the United States, a terrorist state. But why then Putin calls the Americans partners and cooperates with them?
    If the bloodthirsty bandits are our partners, then who are we?
    Although it’s already better, I remember earlier that Putin called Bush Jr. a friend.
  12. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 8 December 2015 11: 02
    +9
    To understand this, we must recall that
    at some point, ALL US citizens had firearms.

    On the contrary, if someone did not have it, they looked at him as if he were a patient.

    The basic constitutional right of Americans is to form armed (!)
    police to protect against attacks ... - who would you think? - own state!
  13. knn54
    knn54 8 December 2015 11: 04
    +2
    The Yankes do not fight, they "export" the demonocracy.
  14. shultc
    shultc 8 December 2015 11: 06
    +4
    The USA is at war with Good and Truth! They are the stronghold of evil!
  15. atamankko
    atamankko 8 December 2015 11: 08
    0
    Gnawed, insolent bastards, zombified under the "exceptional".
  16. ARES623
    ARES623 8 December 2015 11: 12
    +4
    When the US fights against itself, it does not bother me. This is their internal affair, who will cut someone - white blacks or vice versa. Not only that, I even FOR this war of theirs, and the wider it is, the probably better. Not from bloodthirsty, but for the reason that this is the only thing that the United States can distract from attempts to restore order in other countries.
  17. soroKING
    soroKING 8 December 2015 11: 14
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The basic constitutional right of Americans is to form armed (!) Militias to protect against attacks ... - who would you think? - own state!

    ordinary Americans have forgotten something about their rights angry
  18. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 8 December 2015 11: 17
    +2
    They consider themselves civilized. Meanwhile, it turns out that they still live according to the laws of the wild west. According to the laws, when everyone fired at a neighbor, if he did not like him.

    It's really their private affair. But let them not consider themselves the pinnacle of civilization. The army of convicts is larger than in any other country, but they are stubbornly looking for some political prisoners in other countries.

    The boy in early childhood played with his daddy's gun. Then I bought myself a colt. Then he became some kind of mccain, because he was brought up from childhood. And this McCain does not distinguish between good and evil; has no idea about the law (not to mention morality). And even, nothing added, theorizes about nuclear weapons.
  19. pts-m
    pts-m 8 December 2015 11: 40
    +1
    by the "lost their head", do not cry.
  20. radogost
    radogost 8 December 2015 12: 03
    0
    What abomination, how does the earth carry the mother ???
  21. mivmim
    mivmim 8 December 2015 12: 10
    0
    In a war with whom? Obviously, the United States is at war with itself.

    And with the rest of the world.
  22. iouris
    iouris 8 December 2015 12: 48
    +3
    The USA is a machine for extracting super-profit from everything. This is not a state, but a cluster of transnational monopolies. The USA is hybrid, i.e. total war for money. This war does not preclude the use of the army. The US Army has to fight from time to time. The US Army is fighting only for money. It’s fighting not just for money, but for very big money. All wars waged by the USA are very lucrative wars for TNCs. If the United States declares someone an enemy of democracy, it means that this one has a lot of money. War is just a business.
  23. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 8 December 2015 13: 33
    +1
    America lives as best it can. But it turns out not so hot. But there’s talk about how you get hurt as much as the whole show! A country in which it does not advertise itself well. Those countries where the highest standard of living are known, but they do not identify themselves anywhere. America is just one big mess, with a risk to life, because each of them is the first with a weapon. They work there at two jobs not from a better life ..
    1. iouris
      iouris 8 December 2015 14: 10
      +1
      Correctly. Marx spoke not only of absolute impoverishment, but also of relative. US population - mercilessly exploited by the same TNCs.
  24. Infernal man
    Infernal man 8 December 2015 13: 44
    +1
    Now I’ll find cons ...
    Alas, the vast majority in our country, when discussing successes, failures, policies and actions of the United States, never notice such an important aspect as the presence of a clear program for the United States for decades to come.
    What Russia does not have absolutely. We don’t even know what we want in a year, what the hell is the five-year plan or more, tomorrow we don’t know what will be and what we want. There is no development program. The government officially switched to annual planning (!) And no one attached any importance to it. It's the same darkness, gentlemen!
    So the United States in any industry, in any interests, has a clear program for years to come and decades to come. Quietly from year to year they feed the necessary politicians, change their morality, shape their consciousness, etc. That at one fine moment the society would mature and be ready for coups, and for bombing, and for agulic unproven groaning, and for revolutions, etc.
    So in this regard, the United States only needs to learn. No country has such a measured, systematic and verified policy as the states. Yes, they all hate them, laugh how stupid they are, etc. and they bend their line themselves year after year. From the point of view of state interest, they will not miss their own.
    So you can endlessly discuss what kind of villains they are, while decomposing and falling apart. We should learn from them (even though this is the enemy).
    Minus, I'm violet.
    1. iouris
      iouris 8 December 2015 14: 13
      0
      Correctly. But only the possibilities of integrated planning were first demonstrated in the USSR. Planning is communism. In the USA, communist planning!
    2. solvi
      8 December 2015 14: 42
      0
      Dear Hell Man! Of course, you are in many ways right. But all this is taken out of the context of history. Compare our story with them. Only one fact: there was such a quantity of gold exported to the USA from Russia that was swept by the 17 revolution that the special bank vaults of the States were full. And gold was stored simply in the territory of banks. Such facts are enough. USSR - winner in the 2-th world war. And the beneficiary is the United States. When did the dollar flood begin? And with it the economic subordination of other countries? And when was the last time the USA fought a war on its territory? And this is the smallest part of the top of a huge iceberg.
  25. Eulogius
    Eulogius 8 December 2015 13: 48
    0
    With your people.
    Yes. Yet. For "full American joy" they will soon launch a TV channel dedicated to advertising and selling weapons, where they can order them without leaving the couch.
    To be honest, I am very sorry (sorry) for ordinary Americans.
  26. Eulogius
    Eulogius 8 December 2015 13: 54
    0
    Quote: Infernal Man
    So you can endlessly discuss what kind of villains they are, while decomposing and falling apart. We should learn from them (even though this is the enemy).
    Minus, I'm violet.

    Whatever it was, but here you are to some extent right, it is enough to recall the plan of Allen Dulles.
    1. iouris
      iouris 8 December 2015 14: 15
      0
      Correctly. Learn, study, study again. But another project of the future is needed. That is the problem.