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Baghdad: the presence of Turkish soldiers in Iraq is a violation of the sovereignty of the country

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The unauthorized entry of Turkish soldiers into Iraqi territory in Baghdad was regarded as a violation of the country's sovereignty and demanded that Ankara withdraw them immediately, reports RIA News.


Baghdad

"The armed forces of Turkey, located near Mosul, invaded the country without consent, and they must leave immediately," the Iraqi government’s press center said in a statement.

A statement made on behalf of the Prime Minister of Iraq was circulated on all television channels of the country. It also notes that "any military operations that are not coordinated with the government in Baghdad are not entitled to conduct."

Earlier it was reported that Turkey sent 130 troops to the north of Iraq to "train Iraqi Kurds (Peshmerga) fighters". Later, Reuters, citing sources, said that this step is an Ankara initiative and has nothing to do with the actions of the Western coalition.

At the same time, sources noted that Turkey had warned the coalition commanders of their intentions in advance.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 5 December 2015 13: 00
    22
    You need to look more soberly at things. You need to get rid of the Turks, then it will be too late.
    1. alexng
      alexng 5 December 2015 13: 07
      15
      It’s not yet evening ... They’ll get a hat and do not even doubt it. Russia scum does not forgive. Let them first move a distance from which it will be impossible to leave and ... what they deserve.
      1. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 5 December 2015 20: 32
        +1
        I hope the Iraqis will give the Turks a kick, and then Russia and Iran will support them, with the words "You yourself said that every country has the right to defend its borders, and the Turks grossly violated them, especially Iraq warned them."
    2. Good me
      Good me 5 December 2015 13: 08
      10
      "The armed forces of Turkey, located near Mosul, invaded the country without consent, and they must leave immediately," the Iraqi government’s press center said in a statement.

      A statement made on behalf of the Prime Minister of Iraq was circulated on all television channels of the country. It also notes that "any military operations that are not coordinated with the government in Baghdad are not entitled to conduct."


      Meanwhile, TV "Zvezda" reports (http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201512051241-fptn.htm):

      5 December 2015, 12: 41

      Baghdad prepares airstrike on Turkish troops invading Iraq


      The head of the Iraqi parliament’s security and defense committee, Hakim al-Zamili, sent a letter of recommendation to Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi. In it, he proposes to send bombers to the positions of the Turkish troops that invaded Iraq. This, referring to the Voice of Iraq, according to RIA Novosti.

      Earlier, Baghdad regarded the entry of Turkish troops into Iraq as a violation of sovereignty, and also requires Ankara to withdraw them immediately.

      According to Reuters, the Iraqi Foreign Ministry said the entry of Turkish soldiers is "an invasion of the country." In addition, the statement noted that any military action that does not agree with Baghdad is not eligible.

      Earlier it became known that the Turkish authorities sent 130 troops to the Mosul area in northern Iraq to train Iraqi Kurdish fighters.
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 5 December 2015 14: 11
        +3
        Quote: Good Me
        Meanwhile, TV "Star"

        Quote: Good Me
        Baghdad prepares airstrike on Turkish troops invading Iraq

        and "Degol" went to the Persian Gulf - not to help the Turks ??? what
        occupation of Iraq Number 2 ??
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 5 December 2015 14: 18
          0
          Well, add a reference, like everything on the shelves recourse
          http://kerzak-1.livejournal.com/2680054.html
        2. EFA
          EFA 5 December 2015 17: 45
          +8
          Hollande in the photo looks like a visitor to the Blue Oyster bar.
          Tolerasts, geyropeytsy Che ..
        3. Abakan
          Abakan 5 December 2015 20: 37
          +1
          this French narrow Fedik Kapets looks like my neighbor))) the same rear-wheel drive
      2. g1v2
        g1v2 5 December 2015 15: 44
        +1
        Iraq, in theory, is controlled by the United States, although it is breaking a bit. Who will allow him to fully fight the Turks?
    3. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 5 December 2015 13: 09
      29
      Quote: avvg
      It is necessary to get rid of the Turks, then it will be too late.

      It won’t work out, but the brains and genes should be cleaned .. Another hundred years!


      But still do remains ..? bully
      1. Skifotavr
        Skifotavr 5 December 2015 18: 14
        +4
        Quote: MIKHAN

        And they both wanted to join the European Union laughing
    4. The comment was deleted.
    5. YARUSSIAN39
      YARUSSIAN39 5 December 2015 13: 25
      10
      I noticed how Russia intensified in the region, so the allied countries became much bolder, it pleases
      1. attuda
        attuda 5 December 2015 17: 51
        +1
        this makes me happy...





        ¿? ...
      2. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 5 December 2015 19: 06
        +2
        Quote: RUSSIAN39
        Russia has intensified in the region

        Fruit News
        http://rusnovosti.ru/posts/398611
        The first batch of Syrian fruits went from the port of Latakia to Russia
        A total of 800 tons of oranges and lemons on board
        The first vessel of Russian and Syrian businessmen with 800 tons of oranges and lemons left the port of Latakia, Syrian businessman Amjad Duba told Russian News Service. The ship headed to Novorossiysk, and by December 15, citrus fruits should arrive in Moscow.

        The price of wholesale bases, according to the entrepreneur, for oranges is 75 lira or about 13 rubles, tangerines - 55 lira or 10 rubles, lemons - 100 lira or 18 rubles, tomatoes - from 17 to 95 lil or from 3 to 17,5 rubles .

        The businessman noted that the main problem now is the transportation of products from Syria to Russia. Before the war, ships went from Syrian ports directly to Novorossiysk, and now only every 20 days a ship enters the port of Tartus, which goes through several ports and reaches Novorossiysk in 35–40 days.

        In turn, a source in the Syrian Ministry of Finance told RSN that negotiations are currently underway between Russia and Syria on the introduction of preferential customs, with zero duty for Syrian products.
    6. Yura
      Yura 5 December 2015 13: 40
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      It is necessary to get rid of the Turks, then it will be too late.

      Ek, how, radically, although he agrees to do something with Erdogan, who seems to have gone to smash. Now, in order to stay on the throne and generally survive, he just needs to rock the situation around him to such an extent that he is not up to it. I see a different way out, the forces inside Turkey that do not agree with his policy should be supported to such an extent that the country begins the process of struggle for power and its transition to other politicians in the country, so that a situation is already initiated in Turkey when Erdogan is not up to extra body movements. This must be done before Erdogan can consolidate society around his government, in front of the threat of external invasion or even any threats provoked by him. I’m no expert, not even close, just thoughts.
      1. cap
        cap 5 December 2015 14: 06
        +4
        Jura + One remark, although in general you are absolutely right.
        Work in Turkey
        so that the country begins the process of struggle for power and its transition to other politicians in the country, that would already be in Turkey itselfthere was a situation where Erdogan will not be too much body movements. This must be done before Erdogan can... Who should be involved in this process (this work) in Turkey. WE sunbathed on the beaches and we do not have TV channels "Dozhdiki", the publication "Slonik2", the magazine "Happy Turkey". So, if not a problem, then a big personnel issue ( in Turkey they speak Turkish and in several dialects). And in counterintelligence their students of "General Kudasov" work well. Only the Kurds can be the internal key to the Turkish box. They must be helped as quickly as possible to their eternal opponents of the Turks. Here I completely agree with you hi .
        1. Yura
          Yura 5 December 2015 18: 42
          0
          Quote: cap
          Only the Kurds can be the domestic key to the Turkish box.

          Kurds are so Kurds, more than agree with you. This is the most important time. Permanent confrontation on the brink, this will help Turkey to survive more than its war with anyone, I mean not only Syria and, accordingly, Russia's help to it.
    7. dr. sem
      dr. sem 5 December 2015 14: 01
      +5
      Chyuyuyudesny people CHURKI! Either they are Kurds from planes with heh ... bombs, or they show reverent concern in their training in military affairs on a foreign land!
      And the Kurds themselves are good ... They themselves then decided who their enemy is and who is their friend?
      1. svd-xnumx
        svd-xnumx 5 December 2015 17: 17
        0
        And the Kurds themselves are good ... They themselves then decided who their enemy is and who is their friend?
        What life-giving loot does to people, like the Hussein Kurds and Turks who fought against them the way they fought with them. And as they got autonomy and deposits on their territory in Iraq, the question arose of where to sell oil and gas. And only Turks can make buyers out of neighbors, after the Turks shot down our plane, the authorities of the Kurdish autonomy in Iraq suggested they buy gas from them
        The political contradictions with Russia and the impasse that the Turkish Stream project entered into forced Ankara to hastily search for alternative ways to increase gas imports. One option is to supply “blue fuel” from Iraqi Kurdistan. To this end, Turkey plans to begin construction of a gas pipeline linking it with Kurdish autonomy in Iraq, Bloomberg reports.

        According to the news agency, within two months, Turkey wants to hold an open tender for the construction of a pipeline through its territory. A 180-kilometer gas pipeline will connect the Mardin province in the south-east of the country with the city of Silopi on the border with Iraqi Kurdistan. The Turkish oil and gas state company BOTAS will act as the customer of the gas pipeline.

        The results of the selection of the contractor are planned to be announced by mid-2016. An informed interlocutor of Bloomberg said that the construction of the gas pipeline could be completed in 2018. Its maximum throughput will be 20 billion cubic meters per year, the trunk can reach this capacity after three years of operation.
    8. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 5 December 2015 14: 16
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      You need to look more soberly at things. You need to get rid of the Turks, then it will be too late.

      belay Colleague, where do we bury them so much! request

      A joke, of course, I hope I do not take it seriously. hi
    9. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 5 December 2015 15: 46
      +2
      Everything turns out interestingly. They are fighting with their own and Syrian Kurds, and they decided to help the Iraqi Kurds. Moreover, not being interested in the opinion of the Iraqi authorities and not coordinating their actions with the United States. They just brought in 130 "instructors" to Mossul, and that's it. Borders with neighboring countries for the Turkish army and aviation are not written. If they want, they will fly over Greece, if they want, they will introduce tanks into Syria, if they want, they will train the Kurds in Iraq.
    10. Skifotavr
      Skifotavr 5 December 2015 18: 12
      +2
      Turks are proud birds. Until you kick, they won’t fly away.
      1. meriem1
        meriem1 5 December 2015 18: 29
        +3
        Quote: Skifotavr
        Turks are proud birds. Until you kick, they won’t fly away.


        There is another interpretation of the situation! Erdogan's head was spinning from his own "coolness". He decided that he was equal. ))) What color are his pants there ??? But Russia KU will not do ... and especially squat. History teaches ... but, apparently, not everyone

        PS. It was only worth talking with Parashenkin! The most terrible thoughts come to mind. It’s contagious along the way !!! And the antidote is one. Lobotomy.

        Iraq threatens air strikes in the Turks http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1580417/
        1. Skifotavr
          Skifotavr 5 December 2015 19: 43
          +1
          Quote: meriem1
          Iraq threatens air strikes in the Turks http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1580417/

          It would be very cool smile
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 5 December 2015 13: 01
    23
    Baghdad lost its sovereignty when they hanged Saddam.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 5 December 2015 13: 15
      -1
      Well, yes, Uncle Sam can come back at any time.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 5 December 2015 13: 19
        +1
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Uncle Sam can come back at any time.

        He did not go anywhere.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 5 December 2015 13: 22
          +4
          Vladimir (1)
          Baghdad lost its sovereignty when they hanged Saddam.

          One thing for Iraqis lose Iraq sovereignty over the usa, and quite another thing - lose Iraq sovereignty over Turkey!
          These are, after all, fundamentally different things for the Iraqis themselves!
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 5 December 2015 13: 35
            +3
            Quote: Tatiana
            These are, after all, different things for the Iraqis themselves!
            I don’t know for the Iraqis, but the loss of sovereignty is like a loss of virginity, it doesn’t happen that with respect to one it is lost, but with respect to the other it is saved. Defloration can only be full and partial.
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 5 December 2015 14: 36
              +1
              Quote: Stanislav
              I don’t know for the Iraqis, but the loss of sovereignty is like a loss of virginity, it doesn’t happen that with respect to one it is lost, but with respect to the other it is saved. Defloration can only be full and partial.

              The thought, of course, is an original colleague. And on the other hand, remember our 90s, with the alcoholic Yeltsin. A fairly serious analogy suggests itself. Do not agree? hi
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 5 December 2015 14: 55
                +1
                Stanislav (2)
                Quote: Tatiana
                These are, after all, different things for the Iraqis themselves!

                I don’t know for Iraqis, but loss of sovereignty is like a loss of virginity; it does not happen that in relation to one it is lost, but in respect to another it is preserved. Defloration can only be full and partial.

                And after defloration, a woman admits one man to herself, but NO another (!) am - maybe even this "other" and down the stairs angry for his sexual harassment to her so that he rolls head over heels down the steps. laughing
                And then another hymen can be sewn up, and "restore" outwardly virginity. That also happens. laughing
                So the people. Who are the US Iraqis and who is Turkey and the Turks for them ?! In which case for the Iraqis more humiliation? From Turks to Iraqis more humiliation. This is in accordance with the laws of ethnopsychology I say
                1. Stanislas
                  Stanislas 5 December 2015 15: 20
                  +2
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  So the people.
                  The analogy of a people with a woman is too bold. Of course, I heard stories about the Amazons, but people happen where a woman unites with a man in a strong family, and not where they allow each other today, and tomorrow they let him go head over heels, right? Or do you have any other laws in ethnopsychology?
                  1. a housewife
                    a housewife 5 December 2015 16: 38
                    +1
                    Duck admits one, and lowers the others from the stairs.
                2. Vladimir 1964
                  Vladimir 1964 5 December 2015 16: 53
                  0
                  belay
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  And after defloration, a woman admits one man and doesn’t have another (!) - maybe even this "other" and down the stairs for his sexual harassment for her so that he rolls head over heels down the steps.
                  And then another hymen can be sewn up, and "restore" outwardly virginity. That also happens.
                  So the people. Who are the US Iraqis and who is Turkey and the Turks for them ?! In which case for the Iraqis more humiliation? From Turks to Iraqis more humiliation. This is in accordance with the laws of ethnopsychology I say
                  wassat

                  You know, Tatyana, the point of view is quite interesting, defloration and politics are quite interesting, especially on the issue of admission, I mean to politics. I don’t want to sound like a misogynist, but the practice of European states has shown that female defense ministers, unfortunately, have shown a complete inability to manage military departments. I think the "wrong defloration" is to blame. belay laughing
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 5 December 2015 18: 00
                    +4
                    Vladimir 1964 (2)
                    I do not want to seem like a woman-hater, but the practice of European states has shown that female defense ministers, unfortunately, have shown a complete inability to manage military departments.

                    Ministers of defense, for example in Germany, women become purely nominal. Behind them are men. Women only voice what men tell them.
                    I think the "wrong defloration" is to blame. belay laughing

                    You are very close to the truth.
                    In politics (and PR advertising too) a lot is involved in sexual relations as a genetic method of procreation.
                    The fact is that according to the laws of psychology, women are perceived by the population as softer leaders, much is forgiven them, they are perceived as the keepers of the hearth, as compassionate mothers, as weaker and more charming creatures. Take Psaki, for example. Many men from her, even on the site "VO", are simply in emotion - they called her "cute" - and the man who came to her place is hated by everyone. Although they did the same case against Russia. In the same way, advertisements of Putin with his naked-chested photos work for women.
                    Men are perceived by the population as warriors, as tougher leaders - and not every population likes this.
                    So a woman for the population serves only as a wrapper for unknown leaders standing behind her. At the same time, the manipulation of the population by those in power becomes more effective for the hidden rulers. Of course, there are women politicians who are really very smart, but men are very jealous of their rise above themselves and promote these women only under certain conditions.
                    Here, too, has its own psychology, which is studied in special institutes of sociology. In the West, bankers do not spare money on the study of the psychology of mass consciousness in order to manipulate public consciousness. Therefore, sometimes the West also wins from Russia an information-psychological war.
                    In the USSR, for example, for a very long time psychology as a political science developed little and little. And at the same time they said that "there is no sex in the USSR." The secret services, of course, knew that this was not the case.
                    1. Vladimir 1964
                      Vladimir 1964 6 December 2015 00: 32
                      +1
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      The fact is that according to the laws of psychology, women are perceived by the population as softer leaders, much is forgiven them, they are perceived as the keepers of the hearth, as compassionate mothers, as weaker and more charming creatures. Take Psaki, for example. Many men from her, even on the site "VO", are simply in emotion - they called her "cute" - and the man who came to her place is hated by everyone. Although they did the same case against Russia. In the same way, advertisements of Putin with his naked-chested photos work for women.

                      The comment is good, a colleague, allocated only a part to save space, but I agree completely, I read it with pleasure. good hi
              2. Stanislas
                Stanislas 5 December 2015 15: 13
                +2
                Quote: Vladimir 1964
                A fairly serious analogy suggests itself. Do not agree?
                I do not deny partial, but from the complete loss of sovereignty no one would have allowed us to stick our nose out. It would be a different world. And then Primakov would not have turned the plane over the Atlantic, but would have flown to where the owner had ordered, etc. etc. If our army fought against anyone after the complete loss of sovereignty, it would only be against Iran or China.
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          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 5 December 2015 13: 55
            +2
            Quote: Tatiana
            Vladimir (1)
            Baghdad lost its sovereignty when they hanged Saddam.

            One thing for Iraqis lose Iraq sovereignty over the usa, and quite another thing - lose Iraq sovereignty over Turkey!
            These are, after all, fundamentally different things for the Iraqis themselves!

            The United States rules in Iraq. And the Turks just want to show that they, too, are "great guys and do what they want." There is still a big question, from whom the Turks will receive from the first on the hill. The United States cannot figure it out with us, but here they still climb with claims to hegemony, get in the way, are distracted from the main enemy, instead of obediently biting Russia’s heels when they order ...

            The Turks do not understand who they are and who we are. They don’t understand on their own head ... Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi, however ...
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        3. Good me
          Good me 5 December 2015 13: 27
          0
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          Uncle Sam can come back at any time.

          He did not go anywhere.

          "Daddy", he did something there that he would be glad to fade, but as they say, sins are not allowed ...

          Confused, Spider-Man, unfinished, in his own networks, and he pulls us along with him.
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    3. Rezident007
      Rezident007 5 December 2015 13: 57
      +1
      Against the Turks, the protests will not help, then from the words you need to move on to the actions, and the toughest and immediately !!!
  3. OMEDB
    OMEDB 5 December 2015 13: 01
    11
    Well, then demand the withdrawal of troops within 2 hours or open fire to kill, there is nothing to wring your tongue am
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 5 December 2015 13: 17
      +2
      They can’t control the igil, so where else can they compete with the Turkish army.
    2. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 5 December 2015 21: 07
      -1
      Quote: OMEDB
      Well, then demand the withdrawal of troops within 2 hours or ...

      or let bully - (not mine)
  4. cniza
    cniza 5 December 2015 13: 01
    +6
    A statement made on behalf of the Prime Minister of Iraq was circulated on all television channels of the country. It also notes that "any military operations that are not coordinated with the government in Baghdad are not entitled to conduct."



    To be listened to you need to become a state, and Iraq is still a branch, under external control.
    1. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 5 December 2015 14: 42
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      To be listened to you need to become a state, and Iraq is still a branch, under external control.

      Viktor, do not you admit the idea that maybe the "branch managers" are at least aware. The idea, of course, is somewhat extravagant, well, after all, you are right, Iraq, actually at the present time, is somewhat controlled from the outside. hi
  5. Aleksander
    Aleksander 5 December 2015 13: 02
    +4
    What is there the State Department-Iraq has the right to destroy the aggressor? yes
    1. Good me
      Good me 5 December 2015 13: 20
      +2
      Quote: Aleksander
      What is there the State Department-Iraq has the right to destroy the aggressor?


      You know ... This situation, reminded me of a very ambiguous anecdote, in which, due to a loose door of the head's office, the voice of his secretary is heard: "Chief, you put me in an awkward position ..."

      Well, or as in the picture. To whom are the analogies more like.
  6. venaya
    venaya 5 December 2015 13: 03
    +3
    "The Turkish armed forces, located next to Mosul, invaded the country without consent, and they must immediately leave"

    No sovereign country should allow any foreign troops on its territory. This is the basis of the concept of sovereignty.
  7. Belarus
    Belarus 5 December 2015 13: 05
    +8
    What kind of sovereignty is the Iraqi leadership talking about ?? belay In Iraq, only Baghdad can talk about sovereignty there now, and then with a big stretch.
    This statement can be regarded as empty sound and cheap show off.
    I can’t only understand one thing: for what purpose was this statement made ??
    Really decided to play in a sovereign country without the Americans ???? belay
    1. cniza
      cniza 5 December 2015 13: 07
      +5
      Quote: Belarus

      Really decided to play in a sovereign country without the Americans ???? belay



      They are trying and it seems they will soon come to Russia for help.
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 5 December 2015 13: 19
        -4
        What help? ours didn’t respond to their downed plane, and all the more they won’t stand up for the Iraqis.
  8. tatarin_ru
    tatarin_ru 5 December 2015 13: 07
    +5
    Turkish soldiers train Iraqi Kurds and peshmerga - this is something new.
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 5 December 2015 22: 02
      +1
      no, old one, it’s only you who have geopolitical experts here all Kurds on one face and fiercely hate the Turks and they only have to throw up their weapons and they will sweep away the filthy Ottomans. you are funny.
  9. Wolverine
    Wolverine 5 December 2015 13: 12
    0
    The creatures climbed, it’s necessary to wet immediately, then it will be too late. am
    1. Cheshire
      Cheshire 5 December 2015 13: 31
      0
      Who will wet? Is Russia again?
    2. lukke
      lukke 5 December 2015 13: 50
      0
      The creatures climbed, it’s necessary to wet immediately, then it will be too late
      and there’s nobody and nothing to wet the Turks in Iraq. All literate officers of Saddam either died at the hands of the Yankees, or left for Daesh. There was some kind of husk that even the American couldn’t teach anything, who had drained their and American weapons, equipment and other property, and not even in serious clashes, but out of fear. Everything is deplorable there and fight for them ?!
  10. inferno_nv
    inferno_nv 5 December 2015 13: 13
    +1
    In my opinion it’s time to put the Turks in their place! am
  11. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 5 December 2015 13: 13
    +2
    Iraq needs to bomb them and that’s all. And they will grumble, declare that they thought DAISH had changed clothes and simply wished not to enter the combat zone, otherwise everything could happen there.
    But there is one fact - not to expel these, it will only become bigger and it will be more difficult to solve the problem.
  12. polite people
    polite people 5 December 2015 13: 13
    +2
    The cunning move of the Americans and the Turks. In Syria broke off. In Iraq, they decided to recoup.
    1. cniza
      cniza 5 December 2015 13: 17
      +4
      Quote: polite people
      The cunning move of the Americans and the Turks. In Syria broke off. In Iraq, they decided to recoup.



      In Syria, the same scenario is being played out.
  13. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 5 December 2015 13: 14
    +3
    Quote: tatarin_ru
    Turkish soldiers train Iraqi Kurds and peshmerga - this is something new.

    This is some kind of fake. belay
    Either they bomb them, or they train them. Maybe not Peshmergu, but they’re creating the mishandled Cossacks.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 5 December 2015 13: 46
      +4
      Quote: Oleg Yugan
      This is some kind of fake.
      Either they bomb them, or they train them. Maybe not Peshmergu, but they’re creating the mishandled Cossacks.

      You see, you don’t know Turkey’s relations with Barzani at all. The Barzani regime makes money because Turkey sells their oil through its territory, bypassing Baghdad.
      Northern Kurdistan completely acquires all the goods in Turkey and all that is being built there are Turkish company owners, who are somewhere ethnic Kurds, somewhere Turks.
      And the Turkish army always bombing Northern Kurdistan bombing the mountains in which the PKK sits, he does not touch Peshmerga.
      The connection with Iraqi Kurds is very well established.
      1. family tree
        family tree 5 December 2015 14: 00
        +4
        In general, there are Syrian, Turkish and Iraqi Kurds. And although they all want independent Kurdistan, but the first (hemorrhagic ass Turkey) and second (hemorrhagic ass IG), they want it wrong, and in general, these are the wrong Kurds, but in Iraq (hemorrhagic ass Iraq), the Kurds are right, and Kurdistan (on the territory of Iraq) they want it right. wassat
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 5 December 2015 19: 27
          +1
          Quote: perepilka
          and Kurdistan (in Iraq) want it right.

          No, it’s just that the Americans clearly stood behind them and confronted Turkey with the fact. And the Turks decided once this could not be avoided and not prevented, then we would profit.
          1. family tree
            family tree 5 December 2015 23: 08
            -1
            Quote: Yeraz
            It’s just that the Americans clearly stood behind them

            Rather, they decided to leave, after leaving, a divided country with unresolved contradictions, like the British in India what . Only now, now both India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons. The confrontation forces us to arm ourselves, well, and who is there, on the globe, who sells weapons most of all? request
  14. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 December 2015 13: 18
    +3
    Pay attention - the Turks are training the Iraqi Kurds! Is it that they died there in the forest? Erdogan's cunning plan in action - to bomb the Syrian Kurds, help the Iraqi Kurds, and simply cut the Turkish ones. And to revive the Ottoman Empire by any means, but only forward! Let's also see Turkish arts, if they don't "run into" earlier.
  15. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 5 December 2015 13: 18
    +2
    Greyhounds Erdogan. This is possibly a test balloon before the Turkish troops are sent to northern Syria. It is necessary to help Iraq give the Turks a head. Arms supplies, intelligence ... Well, prepare for such actions by the Turks in Syria.
  16. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 5 December 2015 13: 19
    +2
    Turks train Kurds ?????? Although Peshmaga, but still .......
  17. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 5 December 2015 13: 20
    +1
    It is enough for them to make one Chinese warning, and then immediately chop their heads! However, since the Turks can act, you can immediately chop!
  18. v245721
    v245721 5 December 2015 13: 20
    +1
    Turks are not a nation stop this is a diagnosis. forgot. boot of a Russian soldier in a Turkish ass good
  19. Nymp
    Nymp 5 December 2015 13: 30
    +6
    Humanly sorry for Iraq. The mattresses impudently invaded the country on a far-fetched pretext (there were no weapons of mass production in Iraq, even the Pentagon allies do not deny it now) killed the ruler, trampled the country's sovereignty, and now their territory is used by all the NATO haloes as they please. And nothing the tortured country can do about it! See all the Western liberals and liberals of all countries of the former USSR! Here is the shit that you aspire to, and pull your people! See the smart managers of Montenegro - this is your destiny.
  20. IAlex
    IAlex 5 December 2015 13: 41
    +2
    This is the difference between a country pursuing its goals from the Russian Federation, which, as a whole, is wrinkling about partners in the Donbas. The Turks need and do not care about the rest ...
  21. lukke
    lukke 5 December 2015 13: 51
    +2
    something the smell of a great war (((...
  22. Fight cat
    Fight cat 5 December 2015 13: 51
    +2
    Turks decided to quarrel with all their neighbors !!! fool
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 5 December 2015 22: 35
      +1
      not quite right, the Turks decided to change their neighbors to more convenient ones.
  23. pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 5 December 2015 13: 52
    +3
    Sherko Jevdet, head of the oil and gas commission of the Iraqi Kurdistan parliament, said autonomy supplies its own oil to Turkey.
    “The images taken from outer space by Russia were captured by tankers (trucks) that transport oil from Kurdistan to the port of Ceyhan in Turkey. Our Ministry of Natural Resources has repeatedly stated earlier that hundreds of tankers are delivering oil from Kurdistan to Turkey, and this is not a secret, ”Jevdet said on the air of Turkish television channel“ A Haber ”.
    According to him, the oil that is extracted in Syria in the territories controlled by ISIS * is extremely difficult to smuggle through the territory of Kurdistan and then sell it.
    So who wrote about the Kurds there, what should they help? You need to know the eastern nationalities - for money in their pocket, Iraqi Kurds spout on the interests of other Kurds - their pocket is closer to the body.
    During the first war, the Bush family in the Gulf worked for a long time in one of the countries with access to the coast of the Persian Gulf. Seen enough of these colored and of different nationalities to stupor. in different angles. I took the conclusion from the trip - none of these colored ones can be trusted and none of them can be turned back.
    So with the Iraqi Kurds, who had a fairly broad autonomy under Saddam (especially after the first Bush war). for their own benefit - they spit on other branches of the Kurds - they already have their own region, which does not belong to Turkey territorially, so that the Turks may also be rooting for the ball.
  24. knn54
    knn54 5 December 2015 13: 55
    +1
    Just take control of the NABUCCO pipeline. And "grab" the oil / gas fields, compensation for the "Syrian" losses.
  25. UNAUTHORIZED
    UNAUTHORIZED 5 December 2015 14: 10
    0
    Propaganda is stubbornly spreading around the world that Russia is an enemy of world civilization. It is surprising that China’s silence is exacerbated in the oil-producing region. Most likely they want war and the subsequent weakening of Russia. Then, concessions in the Far East and Siberia.
  26. Support
    Support 5 December 2015 14: 15
    0
    The Turks generally lost their scent .... I believe that a lot of NATO members (maaalenkim) can? ...
  27. shura7782
    shura7782 5 December 2015 14: 22
    +1
    China is on its own mind. Its territorial claims were indicated in school books to the Urals. While he is calm.
  28. Arzoo
    Arzoo 5 December 2015 14: 57
    0
    With Syria, they managed it - they climbed into Iraq. It seems the Turks will continue to try their luck. If there is a war with Iraq, Iran will soon declare war on Turkey. The Turks hope that Iran will give slack.
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 5 December 2015 22: 37
      0
      it will be the end of Iran, the states will not miss such a gift.
  29. Ugrumiy
    Ugrumiy 5 December 2015 15: 12
    +1
    Ha, i.e. the Turks hastily send more than a hundred instructors to the Iraqi Kurds, and then these comrades say that they allegedly have their fuel trucks and try to cover up the Turks. Moreover, both of them are supervised by the Americans, while Iraq is actively developing cooperation with Russia. So maybe the statement of the Iraqis is our move towards the Turks? We will look further, I wonder what Erdogan will come up with in his defense?
  30. 31rus
    31rus 5 December 2015 15: 14
    +1
    Dear, Turkey went to Iraq, only with a kick from the United States, and this is a different scenario, something I, as a sofa general, sees a big trap for Russia, just put all the facts, either concessions to Russia and the partition of Syria, or Turkey with no publicity NATO support, a low-intensity conflict (border) begins, there are many goals, the first is to divert attention from the deployment of strike forces in Europe, the second is to weaken economically, which contributes to the discontent with GDP, further according to the scenario
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 5 December 2015 15: 49
      0
      What is happening in Iraq is not our problem. Even the Igilovites are not a fact that we will bomb there. Our task is to free Syria, for which we offer all the women to flee to Iraq or Turkey, and at least to Israel to choose from. Iraq is a zone of influence of the USA and partially Iran. It’s not profitable for us to get in there yet. If we clean and secure Syria, then it will be seen in Iraq.
      1. mortido
        mortido 5 December 2015 21: 50
        0
        Quote: g1v2
        What is happening in Iraq is not our problem. Even the Igilovites are not a fact that we will bomb there. Our task is to free Syria, for which we offer all the women to flee to Iraq or Turkey, and at least to Israel to choose from. Iraq is a zone of influence of the USA and partially Iran. It’s not profitable for us to get in there yet. If we clean and secure Syria, then it will be seen in Iraq.

        Let's imagine that Turkey occupies half of Iraq by placing air defense systems there, judging by the reports, it goes to this, after which at one "perfect moment" it will close the straits for passage under any pretext, there will be and all goodbye Syria, how will we provide our base etc.
        1. -Traveller-
          -Traveller- 5 December 2015 22: 41
          0
          we’ll open the metro, we will drop the containers from outer space, and to the extreme - through the Suez Canal.
  31. pomor23
    pomor23 5 December 2015 16: 12
    +2
    Oh ..... e from impunity the Janissaries trampled on the lawlessness !!!
  32. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 5 December 2015 17: 13
    +2
    Everything is simple. Turkey is an ally of ISIS and it has officially deployed troops to support it.
  33. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 5 December 2015 17: 47
    +1
    If Iraq begins, then there is someone to support and continue.
  34. Yves762
    Yves762 5 December 2015 20: 30
    0
    It is interesting that there are such Kurds that they were going to interact with Turkey (read - Erdogan) ...? ...
    And La "Ukrainian collaborators" during World War II ??? what
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 5 December 2015 22: 43
      -2
      these are just the most sane and de facto independent Kurds, in contrast to the unpromising marginals from the rpk.
  35. soldat74
    soldat74 5 December 2015 20: 42
    0
    Where is this world heading! Over there, a lot of people were killed in Chad. The Turks are pulling together their troops under some pretext. The State Department "sees nothing". Europe is arming itself. The Foreign Ministry or Putin himself should ask the UN, "What are you doing? You yourself are leading this world into the abyss? And to excuse (I do not know before whom) you push some accusations. Allegedly, you are doing this for defense ... Where is this Does nature really want to get rid of us all on this mortal planet?
  36. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 5 December 2015 22: 06
    0
    It touches me most of all that the Iraqi Kurds allegedly invited the Turks to Iraq to train the Kurds to fight ...
    Interestingly, everyone in the world already believed that the Kurds called their worst enemies to themselves?
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 5 December 2015 22: 46
      -2
      Mom, would you at least read something, at least what Wikipedia is for the worst, but the epaulettes are marshals, and your head is empty, just like real generals do.
  37. Eulogius
    Eulogius 5 December 2015 22: 42
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    In the USSR, for example, for a very long time psychology as a political science developed little and little. And at the same time they said that "there is no sex in the USSR." The secret services, of course, knew that this was not the case.

    In fact, in the original (as it was actually during the teleconference), the woman said: "There is no sex in the USSR on television."
  38. Dimka999
    Dimka999 6 December 2015 08: 19
    0
    So, so .... what happens? So our plane can be shot down because it type violated the airspace of Turkey is normal, but the fact that the same stupid bargained in Iraq is also normal ??