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Head of the Ukrainian Mission at NATO: we cannot ensure our own security

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At present, Ukraine does not have the prospect of joining NATO, however, the country cannot independently ensure its security, reports RIA News statement of the head of the Ukrainian mission under the alliance Yegor Bozhka.




“Now we are not talking about the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO. We are talking about reforms in order to meet the best international standards in the security and defense sector, which, of course, are NATO standards. As for the policy of non-alignment, then in Ukrainian realities it no longer works: Ukraine alone cannot ensure its security ”,
declared Divine Ukrainian journalists.

According to him, at present, both in the alliance and in Kiev, they understand that Ukraine is still not ready to join NATO.

“Being an ally is not only consuming collective security, but also being able to protect others. Is Ukraine ready for such responsibility? The answer is absolutely clear and unequivocal: no, ”the diplomat said.

The agency recalls that last year Ukraine abandoned its non-aligned status and headed for cooperation with NATO. According to the new military doctrine, by 2020 Kiev should “ensure full compatibility” of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the forces of the member countries of the alliance.
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    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 5 December 2015 09: 54
      +67
      Ukrainians-Waltzmann rush into NATO, realizing that this is their only salvation from the tribunal ..
      1. herruvim
        herruvim 5 December 2015 09: 58
        +21
        The whole world is a theater! And only Ukraine is a circus.
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          2. nrex
            nrex 5 December 2015 10: 12
            +3
            All on the topic and the spite of the day. Cool. But when not in shape, do not fast. Everything is super.)))
            1. Baikonur
              Baikonur 5 December 2015 10: 25
              +3
              Thanks! I know, sometimes "rolls over, rolls over," gets overjoyed " laughing ".
              Sorry, who can! hi
              1. Temples
                Temples 5 December 2015 12: 39
                +2
                Here is the continuation:

                You will roam around foreign lands
                Until the devil takes you to himself.
                But you know - Ukraine did not die
                Fascists will fight back and will not die! "


                Judging by the requests of the devil, it’s NATO.
                After all, it is in NATO that benders are torn.
                They want the devil to take them to him.

                There is no place for these ghouls in our lands.
                They need to be driven by a filthy broom.
                Drive to hell.
                Where did they run last time? - to the USA and Canada.
                That's where the devils live.
            2. Good me
              Good me 5 December 2015 11: 01
              +14
              Head of the Ukrainian Mission at NATO: we cannot ensure our own security


              The head of NATO in response to the Ukrainian representative : imagine us too ... yes wassat
            3. captain
              captain 5 December 2015 11: 25
              +2
              No, they are not Russian for sure, ours are ready to defend themselves.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 5 December 2015 11: 49
                +10
                I do not understand, the strongest European army Ukraine can not ensure its security belay
                1. bannik
                  bannik 5 December 2015 12: 47
                  +2
                  To understand this, Mr. Romanov, you have to be Svidomo!
                2. Lelek
                  Lelek 5 December 2015 13: 31
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  I do not understand, the strongest European army Ukraine can not ensure its security?


                  Worse, it cannot ensure the declared security of all of Europe. In how.
                3. Peterhof 73
                  Peterhof 73 5 December 2015 18: 30
                  +2
                  Of course it cannot. Her opponent is not easy. I'm talking about BCH of course.
        2. Pavel Vereshchagin
          Pavel Vereshchagin 5 December 2015 10: 04
          +3
          “We are talking about reforming to meet the best global standards in the security and defense sector, which, of course, are NATO standards.” ... What standards do you mean? Even if in Germany more than half of the aircraft, according to their own admission, are not capable of fighting. I do not want to say that NATO has turned sour, no, this is far from the case.
        3. svetoruss
          svetoruss 5 December 2015 10: 11
          +3
          Quote: herruvim
          The whole world is a theater! And only Ukraine is a circus.

          In which evil and not funny clowns ...
        4. WKS
          WKS 5 December 2015 10: 49
          +2
          Quote: herruvim
          The whole world is a theater! And only Ukraine is a circus.

          Moreover, not just a circus, but a circus tent!
          1. Sergey S.
            Sergey S. 5 December 2015 11: 58
            +1
            Quote: wks
            Quote: herruvim
            The whole world is a theater! And only Ukraine is a circus.

            Moreover, not just a circus, but a circus tent!


            Attraction with wild predators and mediocre rugs.

            Again steam released.
            But it seems in vain. I have a feeling of anxiety for New Russia.
            A test by a hostile outside world is no less dangerous than a military threat.
            Bribery and fear - a weapon more terrible than a machine gun.
            And in a relaxed peaceful state, I don’t feel like living hard ...

            And besides Zakharchenko’s pistol, not a single good peace news.
        5. Sid.74
          Sid.74 5 December 2015 11: 03
          +12
          Ukraine cannot ensure its own security ”

          Yak so? After all, the army of Ukraine, which is known to be the strongest on the continent, is holding back two hundred thousand Russian special forces in Donbas. And yak zhezh invincible Cossacks-cyborgs..who are holding the Donetsk airport? winked
          But what about the "wall" of crying ... brrrr ... that is, the European rampart that holds back hordes of armored Buryats and hundreds of Pskov GRU paratrooper divisions?

          It is necessary to hang this Egor Bozhku for Bosko, so as not to spread the impudent lie, this hero of the revolution of hydration and traitor to the ideals of the Maidan to answer, this Kremlin spygun immediately send to the dungeons of the Hague tribunal casemates. repeat
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 5 December 2015 11: 39
            +7
            Quote: Sid.74
            It is necessary to hang this Yegor Bozhka by the Bosko, so as not to spread impudent lies, this zradnik of the revolution of guides and the traitor to the ideals of the Maidan to the answer, this Kremlin shpigun immediately to be sent to the dungeons of the casemates of the Hague tribunal. feel

            right! why agreed, insolent. After all, on the eve of the day before, our President said speaking on December 4 at the Officers House in Kiev, and declared that Ukraine had won a military victory.
            At the same time, with his statement, he caused a flurry of indignation on the part of the ATO volunteers, as he said that a “victory” would have taken place without their participation.
            “I want to thank the volunteers who, in the early days, days and months of the war, when it was most difficult, gave the last. And without this contribution, we would have won anyway, but it would have been much more difficult, "Poroshenko said."
            True, judging by the video, I was slightly drunk. Yes, only "what is on the mind of a sober, then a drunk on the tongue."
        6. GSH-18
          GSH-18 5 December 2015 11: 08
          +3
          Head of the Ukrainian Mission at NATO: we cannot ensure our own security

          Beggars.
          1. Sergey S.
            Sergey S. 5 December 2015 12: 11
            +3
            Quote: GSH-18
            Head of the Ukrainian Mission at NATO: we cannot ensure our own security

            Beggars.

            Here we are in this regard ironic and demeaning ukrov, but this time the pig did not lie - he blabbed sincerely.
            This is the most important military secret of the Bad Boy. And he asks for her not expensively, a little more than a basket of cookies and barrels of jam.

            I would like the pigs to act in the same spirit, and admit that now they can’t find any reason to live, and they don’t know what to teach the kids, and their thoughts are only about yachts ...
            ... And Russia does not respond ... in return.
        7. GSH-18
          GSH-18 5 December 2015 11: 14
          +3
          Quote: herruvim
          The whole world is a theater! And only Ukraine is a circus.

          Unfortunately not a circus. Madhouse.
        8. ava09
          ava09 5 December 2015 11: 52
          +1
          Quote: herruvim
          The whole world is a theater! And only Ukraine is a circus.


          Enough thoughtless epithets! If you can not do without comparing the events in Ukraine with the performance, it is a theater, where the bloody drama has been going on for the second year.
        9. veksha50
          veksha50 5 December 2015 12: 30
          +1
          Quote: herruvim
          The whole world is a theater! And only Ukraine is a circus.


          Moreover - a beggar, a wandering ... booth ...

          And there is still a synonym in the Russian language - MUFFLER ... This definition is best suited ...
      2. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 5 December 2015 12: 11
        +1
        MIKHAN
        Ukrainians-Waltzmann rush into NATO, realizing that this is their only salvation from the tribunal ..

        Dreaming and wanting is not harmful ... But you need to measure your excessive desires with the attitude of others towards you. Whatever happens as in the fairy tale about the GOLDEN FISH (in a free exposition) ... when the grandmother wanted too much - the sea became foamy, a golden fish swam with its tail, and the old man was left with a rickety hut and an OLD WOMAN BEFORE A BROKEN TANK! ...
        This BROKEN PIT DROP ALREADY RECEIVED!
  2. Pavel Vereshchagin
    Pavel Vereshchagin 5 December 2015 09: 51
    +26
    Another failure of Porosenko. You don’t put chocolate pigs on those.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 5 December 2015 12: 28
      0
      Quote: Pavel Vereshchagin
      Another failure of Porosenko.


      However, the demotivator again inspired thoughts of double standards ... Colombia and Montenegro - it’s ridiculous to even say that they, according to the diplomat who had broken off Poroshenko, will be able to protect the bloc’s allies ...
  3. shinobi
    shinobi 5 December 2015 09: 53
    +4
    Kaka sadness. And most likely NATO will not deploy its bases there. Everywhere a bummer. Yes, and the current government will not survive the spring campaign.
  4. Wedmak
    Wedmak 5 December 2015 09: 53
    +5
    EEE ... but what about the thousands of destroyed paratroopers of the Russian Federation in the ATO? And where did the hundreds of burned Armats go? Balabol ...
    1. armata37
      armata37 5 December 2015 10: 29
      +5
      The burned almata went for remelting and from them they now make know-how called Azovec laughing
      1. USSR 1971
        USSR 1971 5 December 2015 10: 59
        +1
        I saw something similar in my childhood in the movie "Makar the Pathfinder".
      2. Good me
        Good me 5 December 2015 11: 14
        +1
        Quote: armata37
        The burned almata went for remelting and from them they now make know-how called Azovec


        You are a victim of the Moscow-Putin propaganda. It was she who hammered into your head that "Armata" is something metallic. Any Svidomo patriot of Ukraine knows that "russ plywood" from "Armata" is useless, and that for the miracle of ukrovermacht weapons, garbage containers are most suitable ...
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 5 December 2015 11: 16
        +1
        Quote: armata37
        The burned almata went for remelting and from them they now make a know-how called Azovec laughing

        Megaoutug dill ..
        1. Good me
          Good me 5 December 2015 11: 36
          +1
          Quote: GSH-18
          Megaoutug dill ..


          The roots of a panzer wunder waffe are known ...
  5. The black
    The black 5 December 2015 09: 53
    +8
    Neither NATO nor the EU will shine for Ukraine, at least in the foreseeable future. The project "UKRAINE" is at least frozen by the West, if not merged. The maximum that will be is Ukraine's purchase of old military junk and the sale of its lands ... ALL !!! smile
    1. ejov1976
      ejov1976 5 December 2015 10: 04
      +2
      And the other day, they launched the release of one unique innovative city tank, which NATO will purchase from them in unlimited common sense quantities.
  6. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 5 December 2015 09: 54
    +8
    Is Ukraine ready for such a responsibility? The answer is absolutely clear and unequivocal: no

    How is it not ?! What the heck? Petyunya and Senya shout that Ukraine has protected all of Europe from Russia, and here are such words! request
    1. askort154
      askort154 5 December 2015 10: 23
      +2
      Vladimir ... How is it not ?! What the heck? Petyunya and Senya shout that Ukraine has protected all of Europe from Russia ....

      embarking on the construction .... FENCE!
  7. yuriy55
    yuriy55 5 December 2015 09: 54
    +4
    “Being an ally is not only consume collective securitybut be able to protect others. Is Ukraine ready for such responsibility? The answer is absolutely clear and unambiguous: no"- said the diplomat.


    Russia has already become convinced that, apart from "CONSUMING", this power on its own is not capable of any other actions.
    NO FISH, NOT MEAT, NOT FAT ... negative
  8. Nymp
    Nymp 5 December 2015 09: 57
    +2
    How two doves coo! Two de beat is power!
  9. Pak_c_TonopoM
    Pak_c_TonopoM 5 December 2015 09: 59
    +3
    Again zrada)))
  10. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 5 December 2015 10: 00
    +2
    NATO cannot ensure its security! Everyone rushes about in Europe in search of a new military base and grumbles all the time that Russia will have them! And what about Ukraine? And initially the policy of this grief-state is aimed at dependency!
  11. ejov1976
    ejov1976 5 December 2015 10: 00
    +2
    Full compatibility means a complete replacement of weapons by the NATO standard - it’s unrealistic with the help of ruins: this means throwing out all existing weapons and buying new ones.
    And a little trick forgotten in this article: according to the NATO charter, a country cannot be accepted into the alliance in unresolved territorial disputes. This is, at least, the Crimea. I am already silent about the referendum.
    1. Nymp
      Nymp 5 December 2015 10: 16
      0
      Quote: ejov1976
      Full compatibility means a complete replacement of weapons by the NATO standard - it’s unrealistic with the help of ruins: this means throwing out all existing weapons and buying new ones.

      Well, dill, for example, redid the standard caliber of its tank under NATO. The result is obvious the tank has lost its uniqueness; firing a guided missile from the barrel, as NATO tanks do not have such a function, and there are no such missiles. Well, in general, you are right now dill will not be able to finance even such a transition to the NATO caliber.
  12. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 5 December 2015 10: 05
    +12
    NATO is considering the creation of a clown unit to ridicule the enemy to death. The clown’s unit will be formed from immigrants from the Baltic states and Ukraine.
    1. Good me
      Good me 5 December 2015 11: 45
      0
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      NATO is considering the creation of a clown unit to ridicule the enemy to death. The clown’s unit will be formed from immigrants from the Baltic states and Ukraine.


      There are frames yes
  13. Vladimir57
    Vladimir57 5 December 2015 10: 09
    +6
    Ukraine represented by Pugs. She signed in impotence, but she continues to squabble. What can’t you do for the sake of money ...
  14. The black
    The black 5 December 2015 10: 11
    +5
    Yes, stupid Europeans abandoned the "strongest army in Europe" laughing
  15. meriem1
    meriem1 5 December 2015 10: 14
    +1
    We are talking about reforming in order to meet the best world standards in the security and defense sector, which, of course, are NATO standards.


    Oh-whether ??? They are all such "best". In Iraq, US soldiers exchange their rifles for AKs. American helicopters die there quickly, quickly. The best you say? laughing
  16. Neophyte
    Neophyte 5 December 2015 10: 18
    +2
    NATO is afraid that Ukrainian quartermasters and other thieves will stole NATO property!
  17. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 5 December 2015 10: 25
    0
    Ukraine abandoned non-aligned status and headed for cooperation with NATO. According to the new military doctrine, by 2020 Kiev should "ensure full compatibility" of the Armed Forces with the forces of the member countries of the alliance. [/ Quote]
    And where will they get the money for all this? Likely the IMF will give? Or will they draw? They are funny - "our brothers", all over their heads.
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 December 2015 10: 29
    0
    Being an ally is not only consume collective security, but also be able to protect others.

    This means that Ukraine will never be a member of NATO, because this "country" can do nothing but consume, and at someone else's expense. The "bright future" has been postponed indefinitely.
  19. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 December 2015 10: 36
    0
    Oh, how nasty that Dill will not be accepted into NATO. The strongest army in Europe would have corrupted NATO like rust, in Ain seconds. laughing
  20. nrex
    nrex 5 December 2015 10: 38
    0
    The longer I live, the more I understand the thesis "Learn history". In my understanding, everything in this life has already happened and everything is repeated. As the words of people telling each other about love, so are the words of the same people, but who stopped loving each other. Likewise, in interstate relations, each power adheres to a certain strategy and, willingly or unwillingly, in its policies repeats similar political steps of past generations. History is constantly repeating itself. Technologies, people, the appearance of cities are changing, but the true face of states can always be predicted from previous historical events. And this dogma not only visited me alone. You now understand what the West fears and expects from Russia. Russia has always, as an instrument of retaliation, lowered its sword on the heads of those who have gone too far. Obviously, the times of a real revival of the former greatness of Russia are coming, whose mission is to put an end to the accumulated interethnic problems and constant lies, at least for a while. And this photo reminded me of Karl and Mazepa. Really how similar both in the situation and in the nation?
    1. Fonmeg
      Fonmeg 5 December 2015 10: 54
      0
      The development of the world follows a spiral, so in the historical aspect everything repeats itself on the next round! And it is necessary to know the history, since these are the "roots" of civilization and those who have forgotten it usually perish!
  21. Stariknv
    Stariknv 5 December 2015 10: 40
    0
    Ukraine aspires to join NATO because it cannot protect itself, and who threatens it except for itself and the rest of the world.
  22. azesm
    azesm 5 December 2015 10: 46
    +3
    Friends, for Syria and Turkey do not forget about the Russian Donbass
    http://dnr.narodedin.com/
    http://lnr.narodedin.com/
  23. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 5 December 2015 10: 49
    +1
    like this? dill a year ago had the strongest army in Europe (defeated the aggressor and took all the special forces of the Russian Federation to the full), at least they said so, and the censor jerked it together, and suddenly - hello.
  24. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 5 December 2015 10: 51
    0
    "... to meet the best world standards, which, of course, are NATO standards ..."
    Slime counted.
    But in essence - that Bandera, that the national Balts are still warriors. This is not their need and usefulness. Punishers and overseers, loyal chain dogs. Here is their niche. And that is why our task is to roll these "handsome men" under the sod early if possible. At least for the safety of their old people, wives, children.
  25. SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 5 December 2015 11: 13
    0
    "The head of the Ukrainian mission to NATO: we cannot ensure our security on our own"

    Again, representatives of the "great" Ukrainian kingdom lamented! And when did you make from the country p / r / o / s / t / u / t / u / t / c / u / for the west, did you think about security? If you cannot ensure safety yourself, advise your "partners" to change tires more often. Although this will not save! The leaders of Ukraine, suffering from brain immunodeficiency, and the country itself, living according to the principle: "I will give myself to everyone and a lot for money and incomprehensible" respect "are doomed to disease and extinction!
  26. Drozd-den
    Drozd-den 5 December 2015 11: 25
    0
    Yesterday in Russia they said that half of the Bundestag fighters, which must be sent to fight Daesh, are defective. That's what NATO is going to fight in Syria.
  27. Chees
    Chees 5 December 2015 11: 38
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Ukrainians-Waltzmann rush into NATO, realizing that this is their only salvation from the tribunal ..

    Bull's-eye.... good
  28. Batia
    Batia 5 December 2015 11: 48
    0
    Etishkin gun! The great and most powerful army in the world, holding back the hordes of Regiments and GRU divisions, the Buryat armored carriages (according to Parashenka), and suddenly can not ensure its security from itself!
    ZRAADA! Hi-hida and nothing more. Messages from Svidomo every day more and more fun. Indeed, the question is correctly asked on the forum - "What do they smoke?"
  29. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 5 December 2015 12: 20
    0
    Ukraine seems never to be taken in NATO
  30. veksha50
    veksha50 5 December 2015 12: 26
    0
    "" To be an ally is not only consume collective security, but also be able to protect others... Is Ukraine ready for such responsibility? The answer is absolutely clear and unambiguous: no, "the diplomat said" ...

    said well ... But Poroshenko - that on the forehead, that on the forehead ...

    From whom to protect Ukraine ??? From Russia ??? If Russia had such intentions, then Petsya would not be the president for a long time ...

    Most likely, he hopes that NATO should protect Ukraine from the Nazis generated by it ...
  31. lis-ik
    lis-ik 5 December 2015 12: 50
    0
    ...... security and defense comply with the best world standards, which, of course, are NATO standards.

    It’s interesting how they determined it, because until you try, you don’t know, and you’ll hardly have to try it in the foreseeable future.
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  33. bashkort
    bashkort 5 December 2015 13: 09
    0
    How is it, shanovni europeitsi, it turns out as in the joke: "you never know what I promised you"?
  34. Nymp
    Nymp 5 December 2015 13: 13
    +2
    A great picture for NATO if these guys are taken to the bloc:
  35. Chyudilkin
    Chyudilkin 5 December 2015 13: 36
    0
    As my very good and old friend from Kiev said: “They jump for another year, and when they switch to cannibalism, they themselves will crawl back to Russia on their knees!”
    If they all jump there, who will work? Beggars in NATO do not take)))
  36. Luga
    Luga 5 December 2015 15: 00
    0
    The ice has broken ... Sooner or later this was to happen. First they promise to marry, then, having fucked, they begin to dynamite with the fulfillment of promises, then they send them to ... where they usually send them, and then they tell everyone what a terrible b ... she is. Independent successfully passed the first two stages - enthralling and capturing, the third began - sending, then there will be the fourth - obs.raniye. We look and enjoy.
  37. Ros 56
    Ros 56 5 December 2015 15: 08
    +1
    How so. At all corners, in all publications, in countless interviews and pre-conferences, Poproshenko and the egghead squealed, splashing saliva on the front rows, that they had a peremogy, the most powerful army in Europe, about protecting everyone and everything from Russia, and here such a resentment. What are you clowns, you have to answer for the "bazaar". Senya yelled on the Maidan - "cool, so cool in the forehead" We will find you Kulya, get ready
    1. cergey51046
      cergey51046 6 December 2015 07: 14
      0
      Yes, the strongest, but can’t protect herself. The rest is even worse. Only against their own unarmed people.
  38. mamont5
    mamont5 5 December 2015 15: 26
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I do not understand, the strongest European army Ukraine can not ensure its security belay

    And it’s hard to understand at all. They do not understand themselves.
  39. Valentine
    Valentine 5 December 2015 16: 08
    +1
    And who yelled at the whole world and the Maidan that Ukraine is defending all of Europe and the whole world from the Russian Putin hordes? Who shouted that only Ukraine is capable of protecting the entire "civilized" world from the Russian kerov boot?
    Well, now, alms are no longer being served to you, the IMF and EBRD are shying away from you, NATO pays no attention to you now. Everybody understood you everywhere. You have piled up so much crap, you yourself are scared that what will happen to you will be so tearful. you beg your masters for your protection .... Actually, with such scum and scum, rarely anyone wants to deal, but ... maybe the "big" brother will help you with something, which is unlikely. There, too, not everything goes ... sit.
  40. trantor
    trantor 5 December 2015 18: 43
    +1
    Well, if not in NATO and not in the EU, then as compensation, at least Yatsenyuk was rolled on an aircraft carrier the other day ... Damn, he had already built a fence, as if now he would not take up an aircraft carrier - he’ll drown right in the waterway.
  41. rus-5819
    rus-5819 5 December 2015 20: 31
    0
    Ukraine cannot independently ensure its security, ”

    "Take me, well, take me ... not good for me" ... Does it look like anything?
  42. rus-5819
    rus-5819 5 December 2015 20: 41
    0
    Quote: Chyudilkin
    They jump for another year, and when they switch to cannibalism, they themselves will crawl back to Russia on their knees!
    If they all jump there, who will work? Beggars in NATO do not take)))


    And the poor, in fact, are not welcome anywhere! So that, brothers, somehow you yourself get out of what you have done. Abroad is unlikely to help you.
  43. Navy7981
    Navy7981 5 December 2015 21: 56
    0
    “Being an ally is not only consuming collective security, but also being able to protect others. Is Ukraine ready for such responsibility? The answer is absolutely clear and unequivocal: no, ”the diplomat said.

    It’s interesting, but how can the great Baltic states manage to protect Germany, for example? Or romanians? ...
  44. cergey51046
    cergey51046 6 December 2015 07: 08
    0
    If you can’t, there’s nothing to yap.