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SAU Type 89 are being decommissioned by the Chinese army

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Created in the 80s, a 120-mm self-propelled gun (fighter tanks) Type 89 was withdrawn from service with the anti-tank units of the 39th PLA Army. Farewell ceremony with military vehicles took place this fall, reports Messenger of Mordovia with reference to otvaga2004.mybb.ru.


SAU Type 89 are being decommissioned by the Chinese army


This anti-tank system, developed by the Chinese company Norinco, was put into service in 1989 g and mass-produced until the middle of 90-x.





According to the publication, "SAU Type 89 was repeatedly criticized for relatively weak weapons and for rare, not standardized with the main battle Chinese tanks Type 96 and Type 99 120-mm gun."

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Prowess2004, slide.mil.news.sina.com
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 5 December 2015 08: 40 New
    +6
    We decided to take up the unification of armaments, and they probably already prepared something to replace them.
    1. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 5 December 2015 11: 11 New
      10
      Now wait at the Wargaming Perm Store. By stock.
    2. Barmal
      Barmal 5 December 2015 15: 39 New
      0
      to whom will they sell? Interest Ask.
    3. sherman1506
      sherman1506 5 December 2015 16: 02 New
      0
      Damn, our Cheburashka is sobbing.
  2. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 5 December 2015 08: 41 New
    +1
    I wonder what new things will be accepted instead ...
    1. H_l_o_p_e_C
      H_l_o_p_e_C 5 December 2015 08: 49 New
      +2
      will copy ours
      1. sober
        sober 5 December 2015 09: 06 New
        +1
        fellow [quote = H_l_o_p_e_C] copy ours will



        Yes, they just say that we don’t need the equipment. You sell the drawings to us !!! Or take 2-5pcs.
        and study for yourself.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 5 December 2015 10: 00 New
          +2
          [quote = sober]fellow [quote = H_l_o_p_e_C] copy ours will
          Yes, they just say that we don’t need the equipment. You sell the drawings to us !!! Or take 2-5pcs.
          and study for yourself. [/ quote]
          And what have we done recently in this area that we need to copy ours? The coalition, so I would not say that it has transcendent TTX and is a breakthrough.
          Now China has the finances and the ability to buy or create a joint production, and just steal the samples of interest. And if you copy NLOS-C P1, it’s at least a new development
          1. TSOOBER
            TSOOBER 5 December 2015 10: 28 New
            +3
            It was planned to enter combat units by 2014, but in 2009 the FCS program was closed, most of the projects within its framework were frozen. And what is there to copy? They rolled out the layout and truncated!
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 5 December 2015 11: 41 New
              -2
              Quote: TSOOBER
              It was planned to enter combat units by 2014, but in 2009 the FCS program was closed, most of the projects within its framework were frozen. And what is there to copy? They rolled out the layout and truncated!

              And what is left in the world worthy of development PzH 2000, DONAR, Palmaria 155mm / 41, Type 75 155mm South Korea, M109 A6 Paladin, artillery self-propelled system G6-52, I don’t want to copy!
  3. Sasha75
    Sasha75 5 December 2015 08: 58 New
    +4
    The Chinese certainly have many ideas, but most likely they will take something for ourselves, and their production will be made easier this way cheaper.
    1. igordok
      igordok 5 December 2015 10: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: Sasha75
      The Chinese certainly have a lot of ideas

      The concept of a special anti-tank self-propelled guns, tank destroyer, in my opinion, has long passed.
      1. max702
        max702 5 December 2015 11: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: igordok
        Quote: Sasha75
        The Chinese certainly have a lot of ideas

        The concept of a special anti-tank self-propelled guns, tank destroyer, in my opinion, has long passed.

        You are "Octopus" lol tell me ..
  4. inkass_98
    inkass_98 5 December 2015 08: 59 New
    +1
    The very formulation of the question is controversial: why did they adopt a non-standard caliber and why now take it off if there is serviceable equipment, stock of shells, production has been debugged? Then they would have sold it to someone who uses the NATO standard 120-mm guns.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 5 December 2015 09: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: inkass_98
      The very formulation of the question is controversial: why did they adopt a non-standard caliber and why now take it off if there is serviceable equipment, stock of shells, production has been debugged?

      In the 80 years, China tried to "make friends" with the West against the USSR. At that time, there was rather close military-technical cooperation with the United States, Great Britain and France. Some samples of Western military equipment or individual components and components are still in service in the PRC. In addition to 120 mm shells, 105 mm were also used. They were made for the Chinese copy of the British tank gun L7.
      Quote: inkass_98
      Then they would have sold it to someone who uses the NATO standard 120-mm guns.

      Most likely this will happen, the fact that self-propelled guns are withdrawn from service in the PLA does not mean at all that they will be allowed for scrap.
    2. Furious bambr
      Furious bambr 5 December 2015 09: 18 New
      -4
      Why NATO? This is our caliber: 2С9 "Nona", 2С23 "Nona-SVK". And the Chinese self-propelled guns are copies of ours. They just adopted the PLZ, and there’s already the NATO caliber 155 mm
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 5 December 2015 09: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Furious Bambr
        Why NATO? This is our caliber: 2С9 "Nona", 2С23 "Nona-SVK". And the Chinese self-propelled guns are copies of ours. They just adopted the PLZ, and there’s already the NATO caliber 155 mm

        You are wrong no Type 89 is a tank destroyer. 120 mm gun provides an initial speed of 1660 m / s for BOPS and penetrates 450 mm armor at a distance of 2000 meters. The maximum firing range of the BOPS is 2500 m.
        1. Furious bambr
          Furious bambr 5 December 2015 11: 24 New
          +1
          Well, yes, I'm sorry, something did not turn on the head hi
  5. Nymp
    Nymp 5 December 2015 09: 01 New
    +5
    China is developing at a frantic pace. Russia simply must be ahead. For this, first of all, it is necessary to get rid of the liberals at the top and the leadership of the military complex, and in the country as a whole. And the media that propagandize the liberals ("Moscow echo", "rain", "RTVI", etc.) are taxed and fined. They will close themselves. It must be understood that China itself is on friendly terms with us, while we are a worthy adversary. In politics it is.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 5 December 2015 09: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Nymp
      China is developing at a frantic pace. Russia simply must be ahead. To do this, you must first get rid of the liberals at the top

      But this is a call for the overthrow of the existing state system - an act falling under the scope of the Criminal Code.
      1. vvv-73
        vvv-73 5 December 2015 09: 16 New
        +6
        And what is the appeal? He did not say that you need to get rid of by force. So all this is your imagination.
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 5 December 2015 09: 18 New
          +4
          Quote: vvv-73
          And what is the appeal? He did not say that you need to get rid of by force. So all this is your imagination.

          Do you sincerely think that someone will voluntarily give up power? fool
          1. Nymp
            Nymp 5 December 2015 09: 43 New
            -1
            Quote: Bongo
            Do you sincerely think that someone will voluntarily give up power?

            What about Kasyanov? Where is the violence? Putin removed him from power, and others took his place, and our power only became more efficient. And as recent events have shown that he was removed correctly.
            1. Bongo
              Bongo 5 December 2015 09: 46 New
              +3
              Quote: Nymp
              What about Kasyanov? Where is the violence?

              Did he voluntarily leave? no
              Quote: Nymp
              Putin removed him from power,

              When it was?
              Quote: Nymp
              others replaced him, and our power only became more effective.
              Really? wassat
        2. twviewer
          twviewer 5 December 2015 09: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: vvv-73
          And what is the appeal? He did not say that you need to get rid of by force. So all this is your imagination.

          it is, and most importantly, on the merits of the question of objections did not follow :)
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 5 December 2015 09: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: twviewer
            it is, and most importantly, on the merits of the question of objections did not follow :)

            And why did you decide that I must prove something to someone? request
            1. twviewer
              twviewer 5 December 2015 09: 31 New
              +2
              Quote: Bongo
              And why did you decide that I must prove something to someone?

              here I am about the same. it’s not a prosecutor or even a lawyer, why shake the air?
              Morning, have a coffee, relax, there are no enemies of Russia
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 5 December 2015 09: 43 New
                +1
                Quote: twviewer
                here I am about the same. it’s not a prosecutor or even a lawyer, why shake the air?

                And is someone shaking? what
                Quote: twviewer
                Morning, have some coffee, relax

                I am absolutely relaxed, especially since I have already evening.
                Quote: twviewer
                there are no enemies of Russia

                I would like to believe in it, although my other d.s.d.a.s. is worse than the enemy. Especially if it is in power.
                1. Nymp
                  Nymp 5 December 2015 09: 49 New
                  0
                  Quote: Bongo
                  I would like to believe in it, although my own is worse than the enemy.

                  Well thanks Sergey! I don’t understand how I could sow your doubts about my person? I hope you are not ruled by sympathy for the liberals.
                  1. Bongo
                    Bongo 5 December 2015 09: 55 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Nymp
                    Well thanks Sergey! I don’t understand how I could sow your doubts about my person?

                    Boris, do not take it personally. Unfortunately, the filter worked and the word d.u.r.a.k.was not initially displayed. Of course, this does not apply to you. hi
                    Quote: Nymp
                    I hope you are not ruled by sympathy for the liberals.

                    Have you carefully watched my profile? Or do you sincerely think that dissatisfaction with the activities of our government automatically means "sympathy for the liberals"? what
                    1. Nymp
                      Nymp 5 December 2015 10: 02 New
                      +1
                      Got it! Why apologize! drinks
                      1. Bongo
                        Bongo 5 December 2015 10: 03 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Nymp
                        Got it! Why apologize!

                        Mutually drinks
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 5 December 2015 09: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: Bongo
        this is a call to overthrow the existing state system
        Or maybe it's a cry from the soul?
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 5 December 2015 09: 24 New
          +4
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Or maybe it's a cry from the soul?

          I would scream too, but what does that change? The President said not so long ago that he was pleased with the activities of the government. negative
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 5 December 2015 09: 34 New
            +2
            Quote: Bongo
            pleased with the activities of the government.
            This is the most important thing in understanding the situation. Honestly, it’s a shame to fight on the world stage. You fight and your coach has a purse from a kimono during a hot fight
            1. twviewer
              twviewer 5 December 2015 09: 42 New
              0
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              This is the most important thing in understanding the situation. Honestly, it’s a shame to fight on the world stage. You fight and your coach has a purse from a kimono during a hot fight

              for sure, and the medal you have not yet received, already in the pawnshop laid
            2. Bongo
              Bongo 5 December 2015 09: 47 New
              +2
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              This is the most important thing in understanding the situation. Honestly, it’s a shame to fight on the world stage. You fight and your coach has a purse from a kimono during a hot fight

              We understand each other ... drinks
    2. Furious bambr
      Furious bambr 5 December 2015 09: 11 New
      +1
      At one time, the Air Force and the Voice of America listened from under the pillow, and now there are stupid people listening to liberal pornography. And the article must be returned for parasitism, and then, at their rallies, free artists and other thinkers just hang around. In terms of weapons, we are one step ahead of China, but we have to sell new types of weapons to them - the price of friendship.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 5 December 2015 09: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: Furious Bambr
        In terms of armaments, we are one step ahead of China, but new types

        and they will have to defend themselves from generation 5.
  6. Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 5 December 2015 09: 03 New
    +1
    We have already adopted the PLZ 52, maybe they copied it, but not with us. More similar to the American M109A6. The paladin is similar.
    1. Forest
      Forest 5 December 2015 12: 03 New
      0
      Paladin is a typical self-propelled gun for firing from closed positions, the Chinese machine is anti-tank, this is how to compare the D-30 and the Rapier.
  7. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 5 December 2015 09: 07 New
    +1
    Farewell ceremony with military vehicles
    God, how nice and right. The ceremony ... under Yeltsin and our technology didn’t stand on ceremony like that
  8. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 5 December 2015 09: 17 New
    +1
    Still, a farewell orchestra and crying ladies caught up with three million! laughing
  9. 52
    52 5 December 2015 09: 41 New
    +1
    And how long will an anti-tank self-propelled guns live in modern combat? So the withdrawal is quite natural. But the adoption in service in 1989 was a more than controversial decision, by that time there were almost no tank destroyers in other countries.
    1. Vladimir 23rus
      Vladimir 23rus 6 December 2015 11: 12 New
      0
      And long live in modern combat ANTI-TANK SPG?
      How long does a tank live? Anti-tank self-propelled guns are one and a half to two times cheaper and the whole layout. If a country can afford (in finances) in each tank battalion to have a self-propelled gun platoon sharpened to combat armored vehicles, then this is only a plus for the combat stability of the unit.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 December 2015 09: 45 New
    +2
    Well, the Chinese mazanuli with their self-propelled guns. Our "Octopus" piled up under a tank gun, and ammunition unified, and in general ... But the Chinese turned out to have an appendix, probably not very promising. Since they didn’t put a tank gun on it. Either the chassis is weak, or something. So they write off. But Nona doesn’t even want to try on this platform. I have not heard that they have an analogue of Nona.
  11. Oleg-S1970
    Oleg-S1970 5 December 2015 10: 09 New
    +1
    They are old probably for cheap in Africa or Pakistan will sell
  12. Vadim237
    Vadim237 5 December 2015 13: 36 New
    +1
    Surely they licked the German self-propelled guns PzH 2000.
  13. Tutu
    Tutu 5 December 2015 15: 58 New
    +2
    Other self-propelled gun Type 89 (120mm)