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Bundeswehr trump card

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In early November of this year, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko submitted to the Verkhovna Rada, and then signed a law allowing foreign troops to stay on Ukrainian territory (this is about NATO forces). Earlier this law was already considered by Kiev. From April 17, 300 US troops are in the country only according to official data. From time to time on the Internet, on media sites and in the blogosphere, there are reports of the transfer of NATO special forces soldiers to Nezalezhnaya Square. The words of the head of the Pentagon that the political and military leadership of the United States is looking for "new options for action" to contain Russia, including the military, are not a joke. And Ukraine is still the most profitable bridgehead for the West and a mechanism for such deterrence. At the very beginning of the confrontation in the Donbass, in April 2014, when the flywheel of war in this region only unwound, the German edition Bild published a message about the plans of the Bundeswehr (Bundeswehr - German Federal Armed Forces) to send soldiers of its elite special forces unit Kommando Spezialkrafte (KSK) to the south-east of Ukraine. Official Berlin denied this message, but it was said that under certain conditions, the use of special forces is not excluded.

HEIRS OTTO SKORTSENI


NATO command (Germany is one of the members of the alliance) assigns an important role to special forces in modern armed conflicts. This situation did not arise from scratch, but as a result of the evolution of military affairs over the past 70 – 80 stories. Despite the fact that high-tech weapons and equipment are the main striking force of armies of leading world powers, the value of light, superbly trained infantry (such as special forces) is capable of conducting multitasking sabotage and reconnaissance activities in the interests of the main forces, is recognized by all military leaders.

During the Second World War, the Third Reich had sabotage and reconnaissance groups, both in the Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS. The most famous operation of the "Nazi Special Forces" was the release of Mussolini in September 1943 of the year (Operation Oak, led by Otto Skorzeny). After the defeat of the Third Reich, the German armed forces ceased to exist and were subsequently recreated from scratch, the same fate befell special forces. Despite the fact that more than 70 years passed after the end of the Second World War, Germany is still under the occupation of US troops. But this fact does not prevent Berlin from engaging in its own military construction within the framework that its Allies allot to it. If Brussels decides to create an armed forces of the European Union, then most likely the Bundeswehr will be the backbone.

As for the KSK, the year of the formation of this military unit of special purpose is 1996. But the units that later became part of the KSK, took part in the military operations of the alliance in Yugoslavia in 1991, in Somalia in 1994, so we can say that this command began its combat path before its formal emergence. Finally, the KSK took its modern look only to 2001 year. The creation of special teams in modern Germany was initiated by the Minister of Defense of that time, Volker Rühe, and General Hartmut Bagger.

The Germans did not reinvent the wheel and created the KSK in the image of the British SAS 22 regiment (see “NVO” from 14.08.15, “Special Forces in the service of Her Majesty”). Often, KSK combat groups use their technical base and training grounds of their British counterparts to study. There is a constant exchange of experience between these two units of special purpose, as well as the RPIMA 1 regiment (French special forces, see “NVO” from 10.07.15, “Red berets are different”). KSK commandos are frequent guests in the New World, where they train at the US Special Forces training grounds (see “NVO” from 02.10.15, “Delta Force”).

TASKS AND STRUCTURE


I propose to consider the entire scope of tasks in peacetime and wartime. The focus is on military intelligence in its entire spectrum, which can be carried out deep in the rear of the enemy, in the front-line zone and in the war zone throughout the depth of the enemy's battle formations. Diversions in the rear, on operational lines and troop supply facilities, destruction of strategic nuclear missile systems, enemy air defense and anti-missile defense facilities. Committing acts to eliminate enemy commanders and political leaders. Targeting and adjustment for conducting air strikes on military and industrial objects of the enemy. Search and rescue of their military personnel, as well as allies captured by the enemy. Other complex combat tasks that linear units and units of the Bundeswehr cannot complete.

KSK is deployed in the south-west of Germany at the military base Graf Zeppelin near the town of Calw. The main training center of the team is located not far from the place of deployment, in the Black Forest valley, which only at the time of its creation spent about 21 million euros. KSK fighters also undergo special training at the Fullendorf Special Operations Center, mountain training in Austria, and training for action in the arctic conditions in Norway. They work out tactical methods of action: in the desert - in Israel or Texas, in the tropics - in San Diego or Belize. Training special forces of this elite part is costly for German taxpayers. The KSK is subordinate to the Special Operations Directorate (Div. Spezielle Operationen) and the Bundeswehr High Command.

The number of KSK, according to information leaked to the media, is 1100 military. As part of the management, headquarters, headquarters and rear services, burdened with all the necessary infrastructure, a company of military intelligence and four company commandos with different specializations: rangers, mountain hunters, airborne troops and a company of marines. The companies consist of four platoons. The lowest tactical unit is a combat group of four fighters. Separately, I would like to dwell on the mountain training, in which German special forces surpass their colleagues from the USA and the UK. I want to note that mountaineering in Germany is a national sport.

ARMAMENT


Despite the fact that the KSK is the most expensive part in the structure of the Bundeswehr, it has a clear lack of vehicles, we are talking about airplanes and helicopters. Combat groups use KTM400 LS-E / mil motorcycles, Yamaha KODIAC 4X4Quad ATVs, LYNX GLX 5900 FC / E Army snowmobiles to travel over land. Of the cars, preference is given to the Wolf SUV - the army version of the Mercedes-Benz 250GTD and the American all-terrain vehicle HMMWV. As a light wheeled armored car, the Mungo conveyor is used in various modifications. Where the wheeled vehicle does not pass, the Swedish crawler transporter Bv206 D is used. In addition to these samples, German special forces have the opportunity to pick up other vehicles that are more suitable for a specific combat mission. In mountain conditions, KSK fighters use pack animals as vehicles. In the state of the Bundeswehr, there is an EAZ 230 training center located in Bad Reichenhall, where they breed pack animals and train fighters to get along with them.

No wonder the KSK belongs to the light infantry, the basis of their weapons - small weapon. Of the large number of German-made long-barreled weapons, the 5,56-mm NK416 assault rifle of the 2005 model of the year, the 7,62-mm HK G36 assault rifle with a grenade launcher can be distinguished; 7,62-mm sniper rifle G22, self-loading sniper 7,62-mm rifle sample 1972 of the year HK PSG1, large-caliber 12,7-mm sniper rifle DSR 50 (target range 1400 m). All samples are equipped with high resolution optics, night optics or a thermal imager. From short-barreled samples it is worth noting: submachine gun MP7А1 caliber 4,6 mm; other submachine guns chambered for mm 9X19 - NK MP5, NK MP7, NK UMP; pistols - НК Р8, НК USP, HK Mark 23. The staff of the KSK team has an armory where they personalize small arms to increase their effectiveness.

For fire support groups, the 7,62-mm light machine gun HK VG4, the uniform 7,62-mm machine gun HK21Е, the uniform 7,62-mm machine gun MG3, 40-mm automatic heavy grenade launcher HK GMG are used. The KSK is armed with the latest modifications of Panzerfaust grenade launchers. If you need weapons from other countries to perform a specific task, KSK soldiers will receive it.

QUALITY AND BATTLE EXPERIENCE


The right to wear a burgundy beret with the emblem of the sword, pointing upwards, in a wreath of oak leaves can be obtained only by a fighter who has undergone a complex set of tests, which, however, practically does not differ from those in the army of France, Great Britain, the United States and other countries of the alliance. The age limit in the KSK is the same as that of the allies. All personal information about them is classified. The exceptional fighting qualities of KSK fighters are beyond doubt. Strange as it may seem, the exceptional humanistic spirit of the Bundestag contributes to honing these skills in combat. Yes, it is the deputies who decide, for example, to allow the KSK fighters to open fire at their own discretion or to establish a complicated procedure for using weapons in a particular operation. American special forces in Afghanistan were joking about this: "If you see a bleeding fighter who, instead of firing at the enemy, scrolls through the instructions on the use of weapons, it means he is from KSK."

Deputies of the Bundestag are nervous about the fact that German soldiers sometimes fight somewhere. As for the KSK, the fighters of this elite unit accepted “baptism of fire” back in Bosnia at the turn of the century, but it was not about the destruction of someone, in any case, there is no information about this. German special forces were engaged in the search and capture of Serbian military leaders and politicians, whom the West recognized as war criminals. In 1999, they captured Radomir Kovacs, and in 2000, Yanko Zhajnich. The KSK fighters did a good job in Kosovo. In Afghanistan, from 2002 to 2014, the Bundeswehr was in the area of ​​responsibility before the 120 KSK fighters. At the same time, the German special forces encountered problems of support and combat support. They had the right to use weapons only according to instructions. In transport, especially in the air, they were clearly lacking. The main task in addition to military intelligence and raids for them was the "capture" of Taliban warlords. The biggest success for the KSK in Afghanistan is the capture without a single shot of Maulavi Roshan, who was the spiritual and military leader of the Mujahideen in Chaha-dar district. In total, during the stay of KSK fighters in Afghanistan, 59 Taliban field commanders and other jihadist formations were captured.

BETWEEN MILK AND BATTLE


In Germany, there is a law obliging the Bundeswehr and the federal government to provide the Parliament with information on all ongoing military operations. But the disclosure of military secrets can harm both the participants in the operations and the politicians who authorize them. In the Bundestag, only a small part of the deputies have access to classified information, which provokes outrage among the majority of the deputies and, as a result, scandals, sometimes resulting in legal proceedings. As a result, the ability of the Bundeswehr to send KSK "to the fire" is limited. Therefore, the German special forces are not as rich in combat as their counterparts in France, the United States and Great Britain.
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  1. izya top
    izya top 6 December 2015 07: 35 New
    10
    honey mushrooms are threatening to the East? Well, well ...
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 6 December 2015 12: 00 New
      12
      Quote: iza top
      honey mushrooms are threatening to the East? Well, well ...


      ...Everything as usual!
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 6 December 2015 21: 44 New
        +5
        The longer it all lasts, tes more sorry that Comrade Stalin did not arrange the genocide (as they are to us) ALL of West Geyrope. Sorry. Fewer enemies would be.
    2. Valiich
      Valiich 6 December 2015 21: 02 New
      0
      They love to step on a rake! And if the Bundeswehr is the backbone, then obviously the battle will be lost! It was and will be! And no matter what the fighters from NATO invented, the meaning of all their movements is efficiency = 0! And, 0 he is in Africa ZERO !!!
  2. novobranets
    novobranets 6 December 2015 07: 36 New
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    Well, how much can you step on the same rake? Disappointed, saddened, but not very. There are still free places.
    1. knn54
      knn54 6 December 2015 08: 30 New
      +7
      -novobranet: Well, how much can you step on the same rake?
      Check if the rake was stolen ...
    2. Homo
      Homo 6 December 2015 13: 47 New
      +6
      My hometown, after the liberation. soldier
      1. Homo
        Homo 7 December 2015 02: 01 New
        0
        Which guano bet minus?
    3. Rus2012
      Rus2012 6 December 2015 14: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: novobranets
      Well, how much can you step on the same rake?


      Both on! Psheks beg for adult distribution -
      06.12.2015, 14: 19
      Poland may apply to NATO with a request to deploy American nuclear weapons on its territory. The issue is being discussed at the country's Ministry of Defense, said Deputy Head of the Department Tomasz Shatkowski.
      Official Warsaw first announced the possibility of joining the program of joint nuclear missions of NATO, reports RIA Novosti.

      Original RT news in Russian: https://russian.rt.com/article/134980
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 6 December 2015 16: 02 New
        +5
        Quote: Rus2012
        Poland may turn to NATO with the request on the deployment of American nuclear weapons on its territory
        When I read this news, at first I thought that I didn’t understand it, I read it again. That's all. I just can’t understand one thing, well, you can succumb to pressure, circumstances, the threat of external invasion and host foreign nuclear weapons, and become a primary target. But for no reason to ASK about it, and even on an initiative basis ... you need to be a FULL, REFERENCE IDIOTOM. DO DO, sorry for my French. In general, in the Poles I was completely disappointed. Well, they considered us enemies, I can understand that, hereditary, so to speak, resentment. But for all that, one cannot be so prosthetic-headed. What for Russia surrendered this Poland, it would have to develop its territory as it should. The Far East, the Urals, Siberia, Sakhalin are enough for another 100 years, to develop and build.
        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 6 December 2015 21: 48 New
          +2
          Are the Poles ALWAYS different? They ALWAYS WAS, were already idiots. Our history will keep them that way. There was a Polish people, and he was an idiot. Panopticon, in a word.
    4. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 6 December 2015 21: 45 New
      0
      Dogs canine death!
  3. yuriy55
    yuriy55 6 December 2015 07: 53 New
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    Again these political games! Passed, it was already ...
    1. Samy
      Samy 6 December 2015 09: 57 New
      +1
      Wrong! It turns out that Stalin lost to Hitler?
      1. Victor1
        Victor1 6 December 2015 11: 03 New
        11
        Everything is in line, Hitler's paper is a pawn, it is controlled by scissors that break off on a stone. Funny picture :)
  4. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 6 December 2015 08: 02 New
    +4
    Well, well ........ Hospitable to meet ....... and carry to the house .....
    1. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 6 December 2015 21: 50 New
      0
      Just this time, their house is a grave. We got to come. It's time to bury them completely. We are too humane.
  5. strelok581
    strelok581 6 December 2015 08: 26 New
    +5
    The result is known. laughing
  6. From Samara
    From Samara 6 December 2015 08: 40 New
    +4
    KSK is a good special forces. But in terms of quality I would put Britain and Belgium higher in Europe! These fighting experience is simply colossal!
    1. Buran
      Buran 6 December 2015 17: 26 New
      +2
      I read somewhere that the best special forces were prepared by Cubans. When ours began to cook Pennant, it was to the Cubans who turned for help. And there, special training took place in a special center for work in the jungle, where even the trained were screened out one to twenty.
      1. alexej123
        alexej123 6 December 2015 19: 14 New
        +3
        In my name, "Black Wasp". An article for them was posted on VO. Flickered in Angola.
        1. alexej123
          alexej123 6 December 2015 19: 18 New
          0
          Forum users - in the second half of the 80's, young men, watched a Cuban film, the name in my name, "In the Name of the Revolution," for Cuban intelligence. Searched on a network - a bare number. Can anyone have it? Help. A film from several series, for a scout in Honduras.
          1. From Samara
            From Samara 6 December 2015 19: 44 New
            0
            I also remember this movie ...
      2. From Samara
        From Samara 6 December 2015 19: 43 New
        +1
        There is little information about the Cuban Black Wasps. Today it is also necessary to take into account ... what special equipment the special forces have ... and the Cubans may have problems with this ...

        I know that one of the 7 groups of Green Berets is imprisoned in the Jungle, the Belgians are good ... the Chinese Special Forces from the PLA have good development prospects ...)))
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 6 December 2015 18: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: From Samara
      KSK is a good special forces. But in terms of quality I would put Britain and Belgium higher in Europe! These fighting experience is simply colossal!

      Tell me the successful operations of this special forces, at least indirect information confirming their participation.
      And then the concert played by the coolest U.S. Navy special forces on the night of May 2 on the outskirts of the Pakistani city of Abbotabad to capture Osama bin Laden so far raises only questions. And to demand the remains of a crashed helicopter from Pakistan is generally the highest skill.
      1. From Samara
        From Samara 6 December 2015 19: 46 New
        0
        What special forces are you talking about?

        For example, the operations of the Belgian commandos regiment alone:

        The Second World War. Parachute landing behind enemy lines in France, Belgium, the Netherlands, for reconnaissance and sabotage.
        Raids on the rear of the enemy in North Africa, Italy. Partisan actions in Yugoslavia together with Tito.

        1960- frees European settlers in Congo
        1961-1962- restores public order in Rwanda and Burundi
        1964- Operation "Red and Black Dragon" to free hundreds of hostages in the Congo
        1978- Operation "Red Beans" assault on the Kolwezi and the release of 2000 foreigners
        1979- Assistance to the Zaire Army
        1990- Operation "Green Beans" in Rwanda
        1991- Operation "Blue Ray" in Zaire to evacuate Europeans from Kolwezi
        1991- Operation "Blue Lodge to Support Kurds in Iran
        1992- Operation Squat with Somalia
        1993- Operation Sunny Winter in the Congo
        1993-1994- Operation "Unimir" in Rwanda
        1997- mission "Green Stream" evacuation of Europeans from Zaire
        Special Forces volunteers fought in Korea
        1. 72jora72
          72jora72 7 December 2015 06: 34 New
          +1
          1960- frees European settlers in Congo
          1961-1962- restores public order in Rwanda and Burundi
          1964- Operation "Red and Black Dragon" to free hundreds of hostages in the Congo
          1978- Operation "Red Beans" assault on the Kolwezi and the release of 2000 foreigners
          1979- Assistance to the Zaire Army
          1990- Operation "Green Beans" in Rwanda
          1991- Operation "Blue Ray" in Zaire to evacuate Europeans from Kolwezi
          1991- Operation "Blue Lodge to Support Kurds in Iran
          1992- Operation Squat with Somalia
          1993- Operation Sunny Winter in the Congo
          1993-1994- Operation "Unimir" in Rwanda
          1997- mission "Green Stream" evacuation of Europeans from Zaire
          Special Forces volunteers fought in Korea
          Routine, unremarkable operations, half of which generally ended unsuccessfully. And the names are so stupid.
          PS The Rwandans take an interest in the actions of the Belgian commandos ....
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 7 December 2015 18: 37 New
          0
          Quote: From Samara
          1993-1994- Operation "Unimir" in Rwanda

          Where did you copy all this? It’s written with errors .................... operations are simply the top of skill, one bit of information, for a change:
          From 1993 to 1994 in Rwanda, the 1st battalion carried out a UNAMIR peacekeeping operation as part of a UN mission. One of the tasks was called the Clean Corridor, during which the battalion had to ensure the safety of traffic along the road from the north in order to a battalion of the patriotic front of Rwanda could go to Kigali for negotiations
  7. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 6 December 2015 08: 41 New
    +2
    "If you see a bleeding soldier who, instead of shooting at the enemy, leafs through instructions for using weapons, then he is from KSK."

    Usually they shoot first, then think.
  8. From Samara
    From Samara 6 December 2015 08: 44 New
    +1
    In the United States, the Delta is totally classified, as is the other anti-terrorist unit of the Seals, so I do not believe that these units share their experience ...

    Most likely, special forces of European countries are training the Green Berets ...
  9. From Samara
    From Samara 6 December 2015 08: 54 New
    +1
    Apart from the Germans, Swiss and especially Austrians are also good at mountaineering ...
    1. dima mzk
      dima mzk 6 December 2015 21: 28 New
      0
      Well, we also didn’t do it with awl and nobody canceled the mountain preparation
      1. From Samara
        From Samara 6 December 2015 22: 03 New
        +1
        We have a traditional disease, saving on trifles (an important component) and Bureaucracy, this implies poor technical equipment and problems with delivery vehicles!

        Even the President’s instructions are ignored ...
  10. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 6 December 2015 09: 00 New
    0
    I do not think that the Germans will agree to fight for some non-management ... lol
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 6 December 2015 12: 17 New
      0
      At one time, it was possible to read notes that in Afghanistan, the Germans constantly failed equipment. Maybe for good reason.
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    1. sichevik
      sichevik 6 December 2015 11: 52 New
      +2
      This is very sad, but maydaunism has covered the whole outskirts. In Zaporozhye (it used to be a 100% Russian city), now a large half of the population of horses ride on the road. There were, of course, adequate and normal-minded people, but they were silent, they were intimidated. The outskirts are sick, and they are very seriously ill. And no healers, no injections can heal her. Healing will happen only after the inhabitants of this territory do not get drunk until the bloody diarrhea of ​​that freedom, and that hydency that they received after the Maidan. And after they choke on their own shit, which they are now dumping around themselves. I think it’s not long left for them. Slowly, understanding is beginning to come to some. The State Department refused to give guarantees on debt, the IMF also began to twist its tail and stir up at the expense of the next tranches ... They began to merge slowly the ukrokhunt.
  13. GEORGE
    GEORGE 6 December 2015 11: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: strelok581
    The result is known. laughing

    Short see memory at kaklov !!! belay
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  15. Sicorsciy
    Sicorsciy 6 December 2015 12: 06 New
    +1
    I’m always wondering how people can judge other people without knowing them. Nemchur nemchur and you gentlemen or comrades tasted how many Germans were in resistance or do you think everyone stood under the banner of the Reich and went to kill
    1. T-73
      T-73 6 December 2015 12: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Sicorsciy
      and you gentlemen or comrades vkurse

      Yes in the know, in the know. It's not about the Germans at all here. We are talking about the Bundeswehr. Excuse me. And don’t need to be reminded about the Resistance HERE, many here at school absorbed this on political information
    2. dima mzk
      dima mzk 6 December 2015 21: 49 New
      +1
      Yes, what can I say! Take the same Chechnya, there were also anti-Dudaev’s forces, they just threw them, and they pocketed them on the blood of innocents, thanks separately to the Supreme Commander of those years, he even recently opened a museum there. They walked the carpet over people with someone’s grace, brought grief, people got angry. And who won’t be angry? when you go for one thing, and you indiscriminately carry a house with your relatives to pieces of wood. These are not empty words. As soon as Putin came to a constructive dialogue with the top of Chechnya, they began to sweep away all the trash in a swoop. Not without difficulties, of course, but extinct.
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 December 2015 12: 16 New
    +2
    And what does the pilot do in the photo? Holds the ramp with its feet so that it doesn’t slam ahead of time, and doesn’t pinch the fingers of the bunders? fellow laughing wassat
  17. Sicorsciy
    Sicorsciy 6 December 2015 12: 22 New
    0
    Quote: T-73
    Quote: Sicorsciy
    and you gentlemen or comrades vkurse

    Yes in the know, in the know. It's not about the Germans at all here. We are talking about the Bundeswehr. Excuse me. And don’t need to be reminded about the Resistance HERE, many here at school absorbed this on political information

    I studied at the embassy at school and lived in the GDR for 12 years, we don’t like it when they call us quilted jackets and I communicate with the Germans every week who I met there and it’s not pleasant for them when they are called
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 6 December 2015 13: 50 New
      +5
      Quote: Sicorsciy
      they don’t like it when they are called unkempt and Fritz

      Sorry, you saw on the site that someone called names of Germans as you say? I have not met. And we still know how to separate the people from the government. And if Merkel is a bastard and "Hitler's daughter" (at least in moral terms), then the people have nothing to do with it, although his brains were thoroughly dusted.
  18. T-73
    T-73 6 December 2015 12: 27 New
    +5
    Quote: Sicorsciy
    I studied at the embassy and in the GDR

    And I’m the daughter of an officer, and I’m not at all offended to hear the “padded jacket” addressed to me, the level of resentment is not the same.
    Quote: Sicorsciy
    it’s not nice when they are called nonsense and Fritz

    I do not call, this is the level of ordinary rudeness. Although why take offense at the "Fritz"? You probably do not know where this nickname came from)))
  19. Sicorsciy
    Sicorsciy 6 December 2015 12: 48 New
    -5
    Quote: T-73
    Quote: Sicorsciy
    I studied at the embassy and in the GDR

    And I’m the daughter of an officer, and I’m not at all offended to hear the “padded jacket” addressed to me, the level of resentment is not the same.
    Quote: Sicorsciy
    it’s not nice when they are called nonsense and Fritz

    I do not call, this is the level of ordinary rudeness. Although why take offense at the "Fritz"? You probably do not know where this nickname came from)))

    You know, I don’t know what your name is, but the fact that you are an officer’s daughter doesn’t make you respect the tingling that was born at 90, I do not care at all in my class when I came to Russia, the son of a military commander in Poland, the son of a regional prosecutor, I and daughter of the headquarters of the aerodrome headquarters, we were afraid that parents would be called to school, and right now in the so-called gymnasiums you have a lot of logs in our eyes and we are trying to teach others
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 6 December 2015 13: 23 New
      +5
      Mr.
      Sicorsciy
      , judging by your grammatical errors, either you were a bad student "at the embassy", or a teacher. I am inclined to the first option.
    2. T-73
      T-73 6 December 2015 14: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: Sicorsciy
      I don’t know what your name is

      written in PM))) is not a secret, however

      Quote: Sicorsciy
      but the fact that you are the daughter of an officer is no longer a matter of not forcing you to respect the tingling that was born at 90.

      here is the level .... oh, and why I just did not pass by your first comment))) many will come off, not only me)))
      1. Banshee
        Banshee 6 December 2015 15: 25 New
        +6
        Here it is necessary to cry, but not to laugh from such illiteracy.
  20. KGB-FSB-NKVD
    KGB-FSB-NKVD 6 December 2015 13: 44 New
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    I’ll leave this smiling grandfather for KSK, otherwise the Germans will be forgotten a bit.
    1. T-73
      T-73 6 December 2015 14: 20 New
      +5
      forgotten, only grandfather is not just smiling, oh, not grandfather, not simple ... Either the sniper gives out, or the Star with Glory)))
      1. Zefr
        Zefr 6 December 2015 22: 53 New
        +1
        I feel like he's showing a private cemetery
  21. 31rus
    31rus 6 December 2015 15: 46 New
    +5
    Dear, this is what Syria needs for this, to divert attention from Europe, I repeat once again, the creation of shock units in the operational depth, the pulling up of heavy equipment, the strengthening of the Air Force and Navy, and the special forces will carry out monitoring, assess the situation, further coordinate coordinators centers (consider headquarters), will work through joint exercises (such as the fight against terrorism) to clean cities and towns, then enter a small contingent (possibly a provocation with both Poles and Hungarians) and go on, the campaign to the east is ready, that's why I thought and think the Kremlin’s actions (or rather, without action) against Ukraine are simply criminal. NATO uses greenhouse conditions and more and more "integrates" into Ukraine and waiting for the people of Ukraine to do something is simply stupid
  22. Zefr
    Zefr 6 December 2015 22: 52 New
    +1
    Wait a minute. If Poroshenko allows the presence of foreign troops, well, then Russia can send its troops to Ukraine quite legally. Why is Russia worse?
  23. Wolka
    Wolka 7 December 2015 05: 59 New
    0
    It seems that the international lies already got the Fritz, so they send their national special forces to the hell to get the first-hand information and not be late for a big division of the Syrian and Iraqi oil pie, but in fact they want to indicate their passionate participation and significance in the fight against international terrorism ...
  24. k_ply
    k_ply 7 December 2015 19: 47 New
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    Theme of the Second World War, the Wehrmacht? the article is specifically about the KSK Bundeswehr, but apparently most commentators did not read the article, except for a couple of the first sentences of the first paragraph, and there is nothing to say on the topic, but naughty They didn’t fail to take advantage, no other than pounding! (in the army soldier's jargon, “pounding” means to get out), for them:
    ... the German edition of Bild published a message about the plans of the Bundeswehr to send fighters of its elite special forces unit Kommando Spezialkrafte (KSK) to the southeast of Ukraine. Official Berlin denied this message, but it was said that under certain conditions the use of special forces is not excluded.

    In general, "the use of special forces in certain conditions is not excluded" - it sounds almost doctrinal not only for the MTR (salvation of fellow citizens, for example), but also regarding the Armed Forces as a whole. And, the efficiency in applying the MTR implies a transfer at the time of operations, and not for hanging out and shining for weeks and months in the area of ​​operational use, demonstratively and openly training the local militant rabble, as the Amer military personnel of the 173rd Ovdr. MTR ("green berets", for example) is usually clandestine and secretive, and in appropriate conditions they train small partisan formations (the fact of this training usually becomes public a bit later).