Media: the Turkish army occupies part of the Syrian territory adjacent to the border with Turkey

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TV channel LifeNews referring to Syrian sources, he writes that on November 26, Turkish army units invaded Syrian territory and erected several of their own roadblocks in the immediate vicinity of the border with Turkey in the Tal-Ziyab area. The construction was carried out by construction crews using special equipment. The process was covered by the Turkish military. The day after the construction of concrete fortifications, three were brought to the roadblocks. tank and two infantry fighting vehicles, as well as armored military vehicles.

Official Ankara says that Turkey is taking measures to restore control over the entire length of the border with Syria. If so, then what was suddenly needed (without agreement with the Syrian side) to actually occupy part of the territory of the neighboring state?

The Syrian side believes that Turkey is thus going to cover the flow of stolen oil, which is delivered to the country from the territories controlled by the fighters DAISH (ISIL). Moreover, the presence of the Turkish military in Syrian territory may allow the Turkish authorities to carry out another bloody provocation with unpredictable consequences.

Turkish authorities refrain from commenting on the occupation of part of the territory of Syria.

Media: the Turkish army occupies part of the Syrian territory adjacent to the border with Turkey


It should be noted that groups of Turkish militants close to the radical Islamist structure of President Erdogan have been operating in Syria for quite a long time - in the areas inhabited by Syrian Turkmen (Turkomans). One of the representatives of such a group in the network said that it was he who shot the Russian pilot Oleg Peshkov when he descended on a parachute - after hitting the Turkish F-16 on the Su-24 of the Russian Aerospace Force.
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  1. +13
    4 December 2015 13: 11
    Here are the ghouls ... Obviously provoke Assad into a direct military clash.
    The goal of starting a war is clearly visible, and on the pretext of an attack by official Syrian forces on Turkish troops, they demand that NATO help, begin a ground operation by NATO forces and destroy the legitimate Syrian government, led by Assad. In no case should this be allowed. It is necessary to take all measures, starting with diplomatic ones, to stop the lawlessness of the crazy Turkish Fuhrer !!!
    1. +3
      4 December 2015 13: 15
      Turco-striped change of "rules of the game" and "taking control of borders"
    2. +18
      4 December 2015 13: 16
      Like a ghoul! i.e. goblin ... laughing
    3. +5
      4 December 2015 13: 29
      It is necessary to take all measures, starting with diplomatic ones, to stop the lawlessness of the crazy Turkish Fuhrer !!!

      and what is in our arsenal? diplomacy will not help - Cyprus is an example. And they wanted to spit on diplomacy! In reality, only Assad’s troops can strike in this area, ours shouldn’t shine, Assad will surely have modern means of striking feel but the most important thing is that if internal problems are too great, there is no time to think about any external war, then there would be power to stay! so the strategy should be one, which one - the smart one will understand and do hi
      1. 0
        4 December 2015 14: 28
        Quote: Yuyuka
        It is necessary to take all measures, starting with diplomatic ones, to stop the lawlessness of the crazy Turkish Fuhrer !!!

        and what is in our arsenal? diplomacy will not help - Cyprus is an example. And they wanted to spit on diplomacy! In reality, only Assad’s troops can strike in this area, ours shouldn’t shine, Assad will surely have modern means of striking feel but the most important thing is that if internal problems are too great, there is no time to think about any external war, then there would be power to stay! so the strategy should be one, which one - the smart one will understand and do hi


        addition for "minus" - turn on the brains, read carefully - the STRATEGY should be to support all the forces of the opposition to the authorities of ERDOGAN! What did you think about? fool
      2. 0
        4 December 2015 20: 17
        Quote: Yuyuka
        Assad will surely have modern means of striking
        -What kind of babble, sorry! Assad can’t clean his capital from ISIS, but you write about the attacks .. He has no army already. So, units ...
  2. +6
    4 December 2015 13: 11
    Give them from the artillery, and if I don’t know what, I didn’t know what hit the gunmen in Syria!
    1. +3
      4 December 2015 13: 14
      This is exactly what is being prepared. As an example, the artillery attack from Syria is an act of aggression, Turkey is forced to defend its land ... all this has already happened in history.
      1. +2
        4 December 2015 13: 17
        if they hit our airbase, then we have the use of nuclear weapons!
        1. +1
          4 December 2015 13: 42
          Dear, remember once and for all, Russia will never use nuclear weapons against a country that is not a member of the club of nuclear states. Even such a fiend of hell as the United States, fighting in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Yugoslavia did not apply it.
          1. 0
            4 December 2015 21: 28
            Did GDP personally tell you about this?)
      2. +2
        4 December 2015 13: 27
        This is exactly what is being prepared. As an example, the artillery attack from Syria is an act of aggression, Turkey is forced to defend its land ... all this has already happened in history.

        Yes! you can cover your obscurantists and cut the Kurdish communications, and rely on this stronghold during offensive operations, or you can even plant on your territory for provocation! angry
    2. +5
      4 December 2015 13: 17
      Better with "Pinocchio" ...
    3. +1
      4 December 2015 13: 45
      And then they will be blasted in the Syrian army - Turkey has serious artillery and hundreds of MLRS.
  3. +5
    4 December 2015 13: 11
    Friends, remember Erdogan as you are now ...
    1. +10
      4 December 2015 13: 19
      I would like to remember him hanging upside down somewhere in Damascus.
  4. +5
    4 December 2015 13: 12
    And so they are going to control the Syrian-Turkish border ... At the same time, the territory of Syria itself.
  5. +11
    4 December 2015 13: 12
    "... three tanks and two infantry fighting vehicles ..."
    One "Rook" will master ?! This, I asked so ...
    1. +1
      4 December 2015 13: 20
      Quote: Decathlon
      "... three tanks and two infantry fighting vehicles ..."
      One "Rook" will master ?! This, I asked so ...

      No, it will be gifts to the Kurds, New Year's.
    2. +1
      4 December 2015 14: 13
      "... three tanks and two infantry fighting vehicles ..."
      One "Rook" will master ?! This, I asked so ...
      ..... At the moment, more than 1000 units of armor and other equipment are concentrated on the Syrian-Turkish border - doesn’t it remind of anything?
      1. 0
        4 December 2015 14: 19
        One "Rook", apparently, will not cope ... recourse
    3. +1
      4 December 2015 14: 22
      Damn the warrior, and three tanks and two infantry fighting vehicles plus a couple of MANPADS overpower? Then you need to think about the General Staff, ours and the Syrian!
      1. +1
        4 December 2015 14: 31
        Great advice for our General Staff! I think there will certainly listen wink
      2. -2
        4 December 2015 16: 26
        one rook will overpower; one Pinocchio will overpower, who else will overpower? you finally can’t stick with your children’s games in war games !!! off the couch! Can you imagine for a moment what is happening in the world? maniacs in power of the usa and all sorts of turkey! if there is a war. but it will not be like you are writing one rook or 3 shells with toz1, your mother will not worry. And not one rook or 3 shells will fall on your houses !!! so do not croak but watch how Putin will resolve the situation without blood! and do not cast disaster on the heads of peaceful people!
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  6. -1
    4 December 2015 13: 13
    I think that SU 24 will solve this problem from the first call!
    1. 0
      4 December 2015 16: 21
      then you will bring the killed pilot to your relatives? sit dearly quietly and do not play toy soldiers here !!!
  7. +3
    4 December 2015 13: 15
    This provocation by Turkey against Syria is not the last. I think the answer should be given tough. soldier
  8. +4
    4 December 2015 13: 16
    Quote: Decathlon
    "... three tanks and two infantry fighting vehicles ..."
    One "Rook" will master ?! This, I asked so ...

    Overpowered by Pinocchio
  9. +4
    4 December 2015 13: 16
    Turkey is thus going to cover the flows of stolen oil

    And besides this, staking out on Syrian territory. Now they will begin to more actively solve their problems, hiding behind NATO. That's just how it can end for the same Turkey does not stop actively provoking the Syrian side and showing the fig of Russia.
  10. +2
    4 December 2015 13: 17
    and for the flyer, for the marine, and in general for the occupation of Syrian territory remains to be answered, and in full
  11. +8
    4 December 2015 13: 18
    fucking Yankees, they want to push us against Turkey!
    I was always wondering: how much do Americans pay to those who destroy countries? I mean scab, labeled Misha, Saakashvili and so on? how much money do they get? Just None of the citizens of their homeland will not destroy their country!
    1. +4
      4 December 2015 13: 20
      Quote: mpzss
      fucking Yankees, they want to push us against Turkey!
      I was always wondering: how much do Americans pay to those who destroy countries? I mean scab, labeled Misha, Saakashvili and so on? how much money do they get? Just None of the citizens of their homeland will not destroy their country!

      Their country is where the money is. They pay a lot. Yatsenyuk for the year of the war became a dollar millionaire.
    2. +5
      4 December 2015 13: 22
      Americans want to push everyone with everyone and remain the only country that will be economically and politically stable.
      Nobody has yet canceled the theory of the golden billion, and so the planned reduction in population is American policy in action.
  12. +4
    4 December 2015 13: 18
    Media: the Turkish army occupies part of the Syrian territory adjacent to the border with Turkey


    This was to be expected. There is only one question: who and how will deal with these units and what will be the reaction of NATO itself. Although this is a rhetorical question, the United States decides everything there. Europe as always swallows and wipes off, because the Turks will say that this is to prevent flow of refugees.
    And Russia has the only and sensible way to fight and counter the Turkish occupation of Syrian territory - the Kurds. But it would be nice not to be late and that the Turks would not occupy this territory 98 km before. If you are late it will be an open war between Turkey and the Kurds. And who knows whom else will this whirlpool of events drag.
  13. Darkoff
    +3
    4 December 2015 13: 18
    It is necessary to crash there with Caliber, then say: they beat at unidentified armed groups on the territory of a sovereign state.
    Seriously: this is the work of the Syrian army. At least officially ...
    1. +1
      4 December 2015 13: 26
      The fact of the matter is that immediately after the Caliber strike, it is necessary to take this territory under the control of ground forces, but do Syrians have enough strength now for this?
      1. +1
        4 December 2015 14: 28
        Syrian forces control 30% of the country's territory from the power, it is unlikely that they have a lot of forces to take something under control. If you look at what happened before, then during the Arab-Israeli conflict of 1967, when Syria, Egypt and Jordan jointly opposed Israel, the latter took 6 days to destroy the armies of these states. The conflict of Syria and Lebanon in the late 70s and early 80s was also not outstanding. Lebanon repulsed quite successfully, and when Syria tried to destroy Christians by aviation, Israel intervened and the conflict quickly died out.
    2. 0
      4 December 2015 14: 14
      Warn 10 times in 5 minutes, and then level up ... They did not know the affiliation, the militants thought ... feel
  14. +8
    4 December 2015 13: 20
    Well, hoo SoaWithout the UN? The question is rhetorical ...
    I think the "Kurdish militia" will quietly cut out this checkpoint some night, so it will be better for everyone, including the Turks ...
    IMHO
    1. 0
      4 December 2015 13: 28
      As I wrote earlier, the maps of Turkey and the maps of Syria of this section of the border do not coincide. For this reason, the Russian Federation says that the plane did not cross the Turkish border and that NATO crossed. This is even directly and indirectly confirmed (regarding maps) by many officials and political scientists not only from Europe but also the United States.
      Otherwise, how can we explain the fact that NATO and the United States did not condemn essentially the downing of the Su 24 aircraft. And therefore, the UN Security Council will remain silent and will not blather, and no Russian resolution will pass unfortunately. And the Americans don't give a damn that someone will think about them.
    2. 0
      4 December 2015 13: 28
      As I wrote earlier, the maps of Turkey and the maps of Syria of this section of the border do not coincide. For this reason, the Russian Federation says that the plane did not cross the Turkish border and that NATO crossed. This is even directly and indirectly confirmed (regarding maps) by many officials and political scientists not only from Europe but also the United States.
      Otherwise, how can we explain the fact that NATO and the United States did not condemn essentially the downing of the Su 24 aircraft. And therefore, the UN Security Council will remain silent and will not blather, and no Russian resolution will pass unfortunately. And the Americans don't give a damn that someone will think about them.
      1. +3
        4 December 2015 13: 59
        That is why the "Kurdish militia", you can fire a MLRS from "immoderate terrorists" - the main thing is not a direct clash, and so there was no bloc - "Terrorists and partisans are all around - it happens ... request We sympathize! "
    3. +2
      4 December 2015 16: 55
      Quote: engineer74
      Well, hoo SoaWithout the UN?

      As always, "deeply ... concerned."
  15. +2
    4 December 2015 13: 23
    Sorry, that is not the topic, but could not resist wassat
    In Ukraine and Georgia, the production of souvenir coins began with the image of the former Georgian president, and now the head of the Odessa Regional State Administration, Mikhail Saakashvili. It is reported by Dumskaya.net.
    It is noted that by December 3, when the sale of coins started, a thematic site was launched where you can order a souvenir.
    Buyers are offered a choice of coins made of an alloy of copper, nickel, gilded, silver or gold with the face of Saakashvili on the obverse and the silhouette of the Black Sea, uniting Georgia and Ukraine, on the reverse.
    Coin prices range from 850 hryvnias to 35 thousand hryvnias.
    1. +2
      4 December 2015 13: 38
      Quote: izya top
      and Georgia

      Coins? Hmm, in Georgia, it seems, the process of depriving Sahaki of citizenship has begun, what kind of coins can be issued? request Or is it a purely souvenir?
      1. +1
        4 December 2015 16: 03
        Quote: Vladimirets
        the process of depriving Sahaki of citizenship has begun

        Already, by the way, deprived.
  16. +2
    4 December 2015 13: 23
    And the message about the removal from the conservation of Peonies type for BBO - a coincidence?
  17. +2
    4 December 2015 13: 23
    Another from them was not worth expecting! And with the consent of the United States, this is a general plan. You will not get bored with these clowns ..
  18. 0
    4 December 2015 13: 24
    Media: the Turkish army occupies part of Syrian territory adjacent to the border with Turkey [/ quote]

    This was to be expected. The question remains only one: who and how will deal with these units and what will be the reaction of NATO itself

    Bagdasarov says all the time that Assad does not want to negotiate with the Kurds, he is pushing for something. Maybe he’s cunning, he wants Russia to get involved in a ground operation, otherwise the Kurds need to promise autonomy.
    1. 0
      4 December 2015 20: 51
      "otherwise the Kurds need to be promised autonomy" - why not? or are they less than the Jews, deserve their state? if less, arguments in the studio ...
  19. +11
    4 December 2015 13: 24
    Cool guys! Is it not clear that this is the US "Turkish gambit"? Do they want to sacrifice a pawn-Turkey for the sake of Russia doing something reprehensible against her? You can't just bomb the Turks invading Syria right away. I really want to, but not, because the dream of Turkey and other accomplices of terrorists is to declare the sky over northern Syria a no-fly (for Russia) zone in order to cover fuel trucks and daesh camps.
    Against hot guys, you need to act with a cold head and counter options, I’m sure, are already miscalculating ...
    1. +2
      4 December 2015 13: 38
      But on the other hand, if you don’t react, Uncle Sam will require the fagot to build roadblocks in Crimea
      1. 0
        4 December 2015 13: 46
        Confrontation will be, I am sure, a matter of how and by whose hands ...
  20. +1
    4 December 2015 13: 25
    Erdogan’s ass is stigmatized. Hence his impudence. the Turks have a very large army (the language does not turn to say strong). For the states of the wars of the Russian Federation and Turkey - a balm for the soul. From here we must proceed. It makes no sense to compete with them. it’s easier to arm the Kurds to the teeth so that they fly on the PAK FA and ride on the arm wassat
  21. +1
    4 December 2015 13: 25
    from:
    "Turkish authorities refrain from commenting on the occupation of part of the territory of Syria."


    The target is identified, you can "work!"
  22. +4
    4 December 2015 13: 26
    Aw, where are all the democratic human rights defenders, UNs, etc. etc.?
    1. +3
      4 December 2015 14: 18
      Quote: Victor 7
      Aw, where are all the democratic human rights defenders, UNs, etc. etc.?

      And you look where the UN headquarters is ...
      More questions?
      This theater of absurdity only covers up the exclusivity of the exceptional for the naive.
      1. +1
        4 December 2015 14: 43
        The UN generally needs to disperse and create a new organization. Since the UN has completely discredited itself, and it follows all the decrees of Washington. Currently, little depends on the UN.
  23. +3
    4 December 2015 13: 26
    Enough snot live with Turkey. The Turks did not return the Syrian territory when they did not return. It is necessary to force Assad to work with the Kurds and squeeze the Turks out of the territory captured in Syria.
  24. 0
    4 December 2015 13: 28
    The Turks there that a hookah of courage lit up. It's time for the Kurds to be identified!
  25. +1
    4 December 2015 13: 30
    My question is, are our armed forces bombed in Syria by those armed groups that do not obey the Syrian government, and by allied obligations. So the Turkish troops that occupied part of Syria are also subject to destruction? Nobody called them there, and these are Assad’s enemies! hi
  26. Riv
    +1
    4 December 2015 13: 30
    There is such a suspicion that very soon the Kurds will have Fagots and something else recoilless, but long-range, from nowhere.
  27. +2
    4 December 2015 13: 31
    Actually, the Turks - somewhere deep inside themselves ... very deep ... - consider this part of Syria (previously belonging to Turkey) theirs! Such is the inner conviction ... Like Russia-Crimea ...
    ... How to dissuade? ... By referendum or "Caliber"?
  28. 0
    4 December 2015 13: 35
    Prepare a springboard for an attack on our base? There is a concentration of troops, the rear is being tightened.
    1. +2
      4 December 2015 13: 53
      Yes, they will not attack our base, their main goal is to protect the bulk, which are approaching the border and cross the border. By the way, all the fuel trucks that we bombed, Turkey has already compensated for new and used from other countries.
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  30. +1
    4 December 2015 13: 37
    This obvious provocative action, someone wants a big war? .. and we know who it is!
  31. +1
    4 December 2015 13: 39
    the fungus must be hung over the entire territory of Turkey
  32. +5
    4 December 2015 13: 41
    read in my opinion on the military. mat. My Syrians are planning an operation to completely close the border of the Sars with Turkey. just like all the tourists will be taken home tomorrow. Well then, let's see where the Syrian army stops on terror. turkey
  33. +1
    4 December 2015 13: 42
    The Turks received carte blanche from the State Department to provoke a war with Russia, whether it would unleash hostilities is another matter.
    Now we need to act very carefully, enough "a spark to ignite the flame."
  34. +6
    4 December 2015 13: 42
    So I want to ask a not entirely correct question:
    Why was the hero given only to Oleg Peshkov? Two crew, both fell, both made a feat but only captain Murakhtin Konstantin was happier and he survived. It turns out that the hero needs to die? Good, then the sailor Pozynich Alexander, with a gun in his hands, died saving pilots, why not a hero?
    Somehow it seems unfair to me, or am I wrong?
    1. +2
      4 December 2015 14: 18
      Note, I asked only a question, I wanted to understand. I did not say that someone is not worthy, on the contrary, I think that everyone is worthy. But on the minuses, as I understand it, there are no answers, are there only emotions, or do you disagree with me and think that someone is not worthy to be a hero?
    2. +6
      4 December 2015 15: 03
      In Russia, heroes are given either posthumously or for theft in especially large ...
      1. +1
        4 December 2015 20: 59
        cynical, but true ... sad
    3. 0
      4 December 2015 20: 58
      absolutely right! this is not the first and, unfortunately, not the last case, this question has tormented me all my life too hi
  35. +2
    4 December 2015 13: 44
    Dear, this was to happen, sooner or later, our answer is unlikely to follow (by the way, the question of modern Syrian weapons), the alignment of forces on the side of Turkey, we will open another base and strengthen the contingent, I don’t understand the Turks and their allies immediately shouted about the second Afghanistan, why are the measures taken belated for at least two months? Another question, if they go further? Or how to bomb the caravans in these areas? We can’t leave, we can’t really punish the same, so we need to squeeze the maximum out of the current situation, which he described above — to strengthen by all means and finally arm the Syrian army, agree with Iran on the use of their bases and already begin to deploy aviation and special forces there
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    2. 0
      4 December 2015 13: 50
      Quote: 31rus
      Or how to bomb caravans in these areas?
      We will bomb the aircraft.
  36. +2
    4 December 2015 13: 44
    He suggested that this would be one of the following actions of the Turks (naturally, with the indulgence of the Anglo-Saxons).
    Unfortunately, gloomy forecasts come true.
    Then I’m even afraid to calculate the situation.
  37. 0
    4 December 2015 13: 44
    I did not find this information on other large resources request
  38. +3
    4 December 2015 13: 45
    News is not news ... On the radio (Mayak and Komsomolskaya Pravda) three days ago it was already broadcast that full-scale military operations were already taking place on the border between Turkey and Syria, in those places where Kurds live (and not only). Used tanks and guns. thus, Turkey wants to establish under the guise of control over the border with Syria annexing the territory of Syria, where the Kurds live, while direct installation of the states and NATO is carried out.
    At the same time, it was said that the Syrian army will not be able to independently confront the Turkish army, in addition, the air cover of the Syrian army is carried out by the Russian Air Force, which will be forced to attack the invading Turkish units. besides it was said. that the success of the operation to prevent the occupation of a significant territory of Syria by Turkish troops can only be performed by the Kurds. Unfortunately, it was said that they are currently not well armed with good motivation.

    I am writing that I heard. Personally for me, that everyone said the right thing. the plan is slowly being implemented. Moreover, the main target of the Turks plans to make the capture of the province of Alepo.
  39. cap
    +3
    4 December 2015 13: 47
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Media: the Turkish army occupies part of the Syrian territory adjacent to the border with Turkey

    Well, here are the ears of the United States. Everything went to that: in order to distract the world from our downed plane, a provocation of Turkey begins under the auspices of the USA!

    I wrote and am writing. The Turks will not be able to stop.
    Erdogan got his hands dirty in the blood of a Russian pilot, money from oil smuggling under US control.
    All attempts to pull the brakes off are not supported by Russia.
    He is a hostage to his ambitions.
    The real puppet.
    All that awaits his bosses in NATO, and his curators in the CIA began the hot phase of the Turkey-Russia confrontation.
    The Syrians will not be able to support our strike on earth. In reality, we’ll get hit on our own.
    Killed Turkish soldiers, a trump card in the hands of those who lead the process.
    It is necessary to beat everything that is available for a blow, weakening the enemy’s capabilities, there are enough goals.
    That something like this. hi
    1. 0
      4 December 2015 14: 26
      Only the money from the sale of oil remains in the hands of Erdogan and those who sell this oil.
  40. 0
    4 December 2015 13: 47
    and not send us SMS on a cruise missile
    1. -2
      4 December 2015 14: 56
      If you have a rocket, send it.
  41. 0
    4 December 2015 13: 50
    Everything will be good at the General Staff, no fools will do kuzkinumum 08.08.08.
    1. 0
      4 December 2015 14: 29
      Turkey is not Georgia for you - it does not have a border with Russia and therefore the scenario, like in the war 08 08 08 in this situation, will definitely not work.
  42. +2
    4 December 2015 13: 52
    In short, the vole of pure water. The Syrians should be indignant at the full, and send YOUR aviation to invade Allah. In general, the Turks are peculiar to Northern Syria. They consider it their territory, accidentally torn away during the division of the Ottoman Empire after the WWII. And behave accordingly. AND DO NOT LIKE Arabs.
  43. +4
    4 December 2015 13: 55
    This is hardly verified information. Eight days have passed since November 26, and only now this checkpoint has been noticed. Unlikely. In addition, our bombers, accompanied by fighters, did not stop flying. Really could not notice?

    But if this is true, then who will ban Syria from liberating this territory with our help?
    1. +1
      4 December 2015 14: 31
      That's just in this area, our VKS no longer fly.
  44. +1
    4 December 2015 13: 56
    Without much hesitation, class them as ISIS and, with the support of aviation, make a mess of "BURATINA" and "SUNCEPT". Just as grandmother whispers and will no longer pry behind the cordon!
  45. +1
    4 December 2015 13: 57
    And WHAT does the UN pocket general secretary think about this ?????? And everything is so glorious .. for NATO, that there’s nothing to talk about ????
  46. 0
    4 December 2015 13: 59
    They need to be hammered for invading Syria. Although I can’t believe it, it’s probably disinformation.
  47. +8
    4 December 2015 14: 02
    Men smell of war ... But we have nowhere to retreat! I hope Putin calculated the development of such a scenario? I wouldn’t want to, but the blood has already been shed (on our part) and we need to answer stiffly in all respects! Otherwise, the Turks will become insolent in vain ...
    1. +1
      4 December 2015 14: 34
      The Turks have already become insolent in vain, believing in their permissiveness.
  48. +2
    4 December 2015 14: 03
    Syria itself needs to kick the UN every hour and yell that this is a seizure of foreign lands. And not to be silent and wait for Russia and others to free their country from any infection.
    1. 0
      5 December 2015 04: 05
      And we also urgently need to unite with the Syrian Kurds, help them with weapons. It is the Kurds who are motivated by blood to fight the Turks.
  49. +1
    4 December 2015 14: 04
    ..in my opinion, it's time for the cartridge factories to work in two shifts .. so that there are enough "calibers" for everyone. And then they climb out of line ... for distribution.
    1. 0
      4 December 2015 15: 27
      Monday, October 26, information appeared on the Internet that the Russian Tactical Missile Arms corporation had switched to three shifts, allegedly because of the situation in Syria.
      - The company manufactures guided missiles, tactical and operational-tactical complexes for aircraft, land and sea carriers, as well as rocket and space complexes and systems. In connection with the Russian military operation against militants in Syria, the demand for them has increased, a source in the military-industrial complex told Kommersant-Vlast. Officially, the information has not yet been confirmed.
      As you can see, they are probably already working in three shifts. Another question is that the "caliber" of money is not small.
  50. +1
    4 December 2015 14: 14
    Turks are Turks!
    It is incredibly cunning, but not so smart. The money received from the sale of "left" oil is not considered. They started fortification, they say.
    In Chechnya, they say, they built the best complex in the world for training specialty.
    BUT, practice is the criterion of truth, or - "by their deeds you will recognize them."
    Let's see how they pass the practice at a real facility?
  51. 0
    4 December 2015 14: 15
    Well, since they got into someone else’s territory, then let them blame themselves! We’ll just accidentally mistake ISIS militants for militants and hit them with concrete-piercing bombs lol and then we’ll say, well, it happens winked mixed up request they didn’t know that there were Turks there bully ...Business! smile
  52. +1
    4 December 2015 14: 30
    Probably another provocation is being prepared. Ours are probably calculating possible options, but a direct military conflict is extremely unprofitable. If you attract the attention of the international community and declare the Turks as aggressors and invaders, give an ultimatum in 24 hours, then with the help of the Syrian army, after artillery barrage, clear the area of ​​the Turks, however, this will automatically mean a declaration of war on Syria and we will have to intervene, which will already be a declaration of war on Turkey. This is what the Yankees are trying to achieve. Most likely, neither ours nor the Syrians will simply notice these checkpoints. But the Turks and their smaller brothers from ISIS will not stop there if they are not stopped. This is such a bad situation for us in every sense.
  53. +1
    4 December 2015 14: 32
    An attack on Syria (even if it is accepted into the CSTO does not give the right to use nuclear weapons, but an attack on the Khmeimim base or some new one .....
    Point No. 27 of the Russian Federation doctrine can be interpreted in different ways...depending on what is considered aggression against the Russian Federation...

    27. The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction against it and (or) its allies, as well as in the case of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons, when the very existence of the state is threatened.

    The decision on the use of nuclear weapons is made by the President of the Russian Federation.
  54. 0
    4 December 2015 14: 57
    Quote: S_last
    Dear, remember once and for all, Russia will never use nuclear weapons against a country that is not a member of the club of nuclear states. Even such a fiend of hell as the United States, fighting in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Yugoslavia did not apply it.

    Dear?? Hmm.. You don’t need to speak so confidently as if you are all of Russia! Here is another case, the USA attacked Yugoslavia, Vietnam, etc. If our air base is destroyed in the same treacherous way as they shot down the plane, then nuclear weapons will be used! Although it’s not for me to decide, I’m just guessing and consider this step to be completely justified!
  55. 0
    4 December 2015 15: 31
    I think this will be another “Chinese warning” and everything will die out due to “tourist feedback”...
  56. +4
    4 December 2015 15: 44
    This is what I’m talking about: the Syrian army and the Russian Air Force launched an operation, if I’m not mistaken, “final defeat.” The essence of the operation, with the support of the air forces, is to carry out an offensive operation to completely seal off the ill-fated 98 km. border areas between Sar and Turkey. however, judging from the Internet, there is a large group of Turks - about 2000 tanks and artillery pieces. One thing is good: our people probably know what to do with all this stuff. and one more important fact: tomorrow is December 5th. In theory, the last tourists will fly home tomorrow. good luck to us and the Syrians. It will be a good hunt.
  57. 0
    4 December 2015 15: 55
    Erdogan has nowhere to go! In order for NATO not to brush him off, he needs to drag NATO into the conflict. Therefore, he will trample like a bulldozer. He will continue to provoke.
  58. +4
    4 December 2015 16: 02
    This is what I'm talking about. The Russian Air Force and the Syrian Armed Forces have all developed an operation, if I’m not mistaken, of “final defeat.” The essence of the operation is clogging the ill-fated 98 km border zone between Sar and Turkey. with the support of our air forces, the entire Syrian armed forces will carry out an offensive operation. however, there is a significant group of Turks there, about 2000 tanks and armored vehicles. Apparently our people know what to do with this farm if that’s the case. By the way, an important detail: tomorrow is the 5th. In theory, the last tourists will go home, thank God. good luck to ours. It will be a good hunt.
  59. +4
    4 December 2015 16: 05
    This is what I'm talking about. The Russian Air Force and the Syrian Armed Forces have all developed an operation, if I’m not mistaken, of “final defeat.” The essence of the operation is clogging the ill-fated 98 km border zone between Sar and Turkey. with the support of our air forces, the entire Syrian armed forces will carry out an offensive operation. however, there is a significant group of Turks there, about 2000 tanks and armored vehicles. Apparently our people know what to do with this farm if that’s the case. By the way, an important detail: tomorrow is the 5th. In theory, the last tourists will go home, thank God. good luck to ours. It will be a good hunt.
  60. +1
    4 December 2015 16: 31
    My neighbor, a Tatar, had the worst curse word - Turk!
    Now I understand him - the “one-Turks” have completely lost the boundaries of what is permitted!
  61. +4
    4 December 2015 17: 02
    Of course, I’m not an expert in military tactics and strategy, but I have only one fear that ours will again be too clever with their restraint. The cruiser Moscow is being grazed, shepherds have also appeared on the Black Sea, heading towards the Bosphorus. from the Turkish border to ours _ a good tank throw. In Ukraine, everything is ready for the winter blitzkrieg. screwed up by demons. right gdp to beat nodo first. oh, men are not at peace in their souls.
    1. 0
      4 December 2015 21: 19
      don't worry, we'll break through am ...
  62. 0
    4 December 2015 17: 57
    Quote: Gxash
    This is not LJJ... This is occupation! We continue to bomb exactly along the border to the entire depth of the bandits’ location on Syrian territory!

    As Assad’s army approaches this place, we will demolish all the Turkish checkpoints so that the Syrians can immediately occupy the border.
  63. 0
    4 December 2015 18: 53
    It seems to me that this news is of very dubious nature. I also don’t understand some kind of hysterical note. Russia does not have to bomb Turkish positions (if they have really gained a foothold on Syrian territory); for this there is the Syrian Air Force, which has the full and legal right to bomb whoever it wants on its territory, especially if the enemy is armed and is doing who knows what.
    Who was talking about tanks and a two-hour walk? . Can you imagine that the Syrian army has been fighting there for more than one year and, having begun to advance, moves very, very slowly, although technically superior to the enemy. These are mountainous areas and there is no other way to move except in columns along serpentines. How many tanks or planes that will cover them must be lost in order to understand the error of one’s idea? I don't think much.
    Look, the Houthis are harassing the Saudis on their territory without a twinge of conscience, sinking ships and burning armored vehicles))) And they film everything)))
  64. 0
    4 December 2015 18: 56
    Hit the sun and the border is locked!
  65. 0
    4 December 2015 19: 36
    Quote: eugeniy.369
    I think this is not easy...
    Our General Staff should think about it: from the border to the Khmeimim airbase it takes 2 hours in tanks.

    Why did our people allow an illegal crossing of the border, or did the Syrians allow them to do so?
  66. 0
    4 December 2015 19: 41
    All this is interesting, however, the position of the President of Syria cannot be heard in this stream. They have been butting heads there for a long time, generations of guys have already grown up in war and they don’t know anything except it, like in Afghanistan. It makes no sense to bring in infantry. What is the point of bombing?
    OPEC today raised oil quotas. Petrodollars cried.
    Are low oil prices bad for the US? So they lived quietly and in high places.
    Turkey participated in the Libyan war - warmer. The USA likes to pull chestnuts out of the fire with someone else's hands - warmer. The downed Su-24 is not the last provocation.
    Did we need the war in Afghanistan? No, I seriously don’t know the answers to this. And what does politics have to do with it?
  67. +1
    4 December 2015 20: 35
    This is work for our Ministry of Foreign Affairs. I know that it is useless, but it’s time to stir up this viper in the person of the UN and the Security Council.
  68. 0
    5 December 2015 00: 16
    Quote: AlexTires
    Cool guys! Is it not clear that this is the US "Turkish gambit"? Do they want to sacrifice a pawn-Turkey for the sake of Russia doing something reprehensible against her? You can't just bomb the Turks invading Syria right away. I really want to, but not, because the dream of Turkey and other accomplices of terrorists is to declare the sky over northern Syria a no-fly (for Russia) zone in order to cover fuel trucks and daesh camps.
    Against hot guys, you need to act with a cold head and counter options, I’m sure, are already miscalculating ...

    I completely agree, just like in chess, you can’t make mistakes, for one conquered pawn you will give up your queen.
  69. 0
    5 December 2015 01: 00
    IMHO, this is a setup from the Turks for our people to bomb this checkpoint... And then they will start whining, saying that Russia is beating the Turks. hi
  70. 0
    5 December 2015 04: 02
    But Russia is silent! Draining again?!
  71. 0
    5 December 2015 05: 05
    [quote=Alexey_K][quote=shuhartred]You might think the Turks are ready for war.[/quote]
    They will fight on their territory, declare general mobilization and begin to slaughter us amid war cries. But how will our army end up on Turkish territory? Russia, and other countries, do not have such a number of transport ships to transport at least 1000000 soldiers. Moreover, 90% of them will be destroyed by enemy submarines and NATO missiles. These are slow-moving ships. And aviation can only transfer seven of our airborne brigades and that’s all! And that the air defense forces of the Turks and NATO no longer exist?
    The Turks are protected from us by the distance and time of delivery of troops and weapons. Remember Vietnam. America, due to limited transportation facilities, was unable to defeat North Vietnam and had to withdraw from Vietnam.
    I won’t even downvote
    Russia is not the USSR, the USSR had an army of 10 million, and now the cat is crying. Only nuclear weapons created in the USSR can stop aggression against us - but this means that WE, RUSSIA, and not some villain, will start the 3rd World Thermonuclear War. You may not survive in it
  72. 0
    5 December 2015 05: 09
    Another test of strength?
    How will Russia react?
    And is it already possible to launch Sshnat troops into Syrian territory?
    No matter how Russia pre-empts the occupation of space...
    The devil knows how long this Russian will harness? And then he will overtake!
  73. 0
    5 December 2015 08: 38
    Since Türkiye did not declare war on Syria, its troops cannot be there. ISIS terrorists dressed in the uniform of Turkish troops set up checkpoints near the Turkish border (maybe they want to attack). We must help Ankara! Bomb them the hell out!
  74. 0
    5 December 2015 10: 36
    Erdogan's favorite map