Media: Ankara refused to block the border with Syria

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Ankara refused to comply with Washington’s requirement to cut off a part of the border with Syria, which is actively used by militants to move in both directions and to supply smuggled oil to Turkey, reports Look with reference to the Hurriyet edition.

Media: Ankara refused to block the border with Syria


The Turkish government rejected the Americans' demand “for two reasons: because it is unrealistic, and also because the other side may take a hostile position by starting to build up forces at the border,” the newspaper writes.

According to Hurriyet, the representatives of Turkey "told their American colleagues that in order to implement the idea, it would be necessary to deploy about 30 thousand soldiers in this area and install observation towers with soldiers every three meters."

Earlier, Washington reported that “it repeatedly requested Ankara to cut off the problematic part of the border,” thereby recognizing “cross-border oil supplies from the districts controlled by the ISSD”.

On Tuesday, Barack Obama said: “I have repeatedly had conversations with Erdogan about the need to close the border between Turkey and Syria. We see serious progress in this, but certain gaps still remain. ”
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  1. +77
    4 December 2015 11: 14
    That's all and fell into place. Erdogan is an ardent Islamist, who at one time supported the Egyptian revolution, as a result of which the "Muslim brothers" came to power there. He leads the party with the same views. But this is the second thing. The first is his family's oil business, for which he will fight to the last.
    So what will "tovarisch" Obama say in response now? Will he again assert that Turkey is an active fighter against Daesh ???
    1. +33
      4 December 2015 11: 15
      They will not close from Turkey, they themselves will close from Syria and Iraq! Who will get worse after that is quite known! am
      1. +29
        4 December 2015 11: 16
        The Turkish government rejected the Americans' demand for two reasons: since it is unreal

        Of course it’s unrealistic.
        - What are you doing idiots for what I will live on - thought Erdogan.

        PS
        Photo for article - oil painting
        1. +15
          4 December 2015 11: 38
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          Photo for article - oil painting

          I’ve heard the statements of the Ministry of Defense about the destroyed fuel trucks for a thousand pieces .. and somehow imagined ... yeah 1000 .. and still 7000 thousand remained and scored ... and now I saw a photo of a dozen burning fuel trucks .... and I'm sick ...
          I realized the true scale of the oil business.
          1. 0
            4 December 2015 18: 23
            GDP said that everything is adult, on an industrial scale!
        2. +19
          4 December 2015 11: 56
          Quote: Gxash
          They will not close from Turkey, they themselves will close from Syria and Iraq!

          Do not close.
          1.Afghanistan

          2. The leader of Tajikistan announced large-scale battles on the Afghan part of the border (60% of the border).
          CSTO cannot cope for so many years



          USSR in the 1980s there were more than 30 border guards
          3. Fierce battles have been going on for several months on the border between Turkmenistan and Afghanistan, the country's border service is suffering serious losses, and the threat of a breakthrough of ISIS fighters deep into the country is growing ..

          .. in the recent battle for Marchak took part about 600 fighters, for Kushka-Kukhna - about 250 people. Only about 850 people. Also, at the end of June, there were reports that 12 servicemen were killed in Turkmenistan: conscript soldiers and officers who served near the border with Afghanistan.

          4. And most importantly:The border of Uzbekistan with Afghanistan, 137 kilometers long, is the most protected section of the border of post-Soviet countries with this state. It passes through the Amu Darya River in its widest middle reaches and is considered one of the most carefully guarded in the world, losing only to the barrier between North and South Korea. This line is equipped with protective engineering structures, including a 380V barbed wire fence, continuous minefields, and they are intensively and by no means peacefully patrolled.
          The northern Afghan province of Balkh is one of the calmest in the country, and finally, about three million Uzbeks live there,...
          however, there were Batken events in 1999 and 2000, when 300 militants put the whole region on their ears.
          Islam Karimov is awake, and is awakening right: he asks for help from the USA and the EEC.
          --------------------------
          This is all in the greenhouse conditions of the CIS.
          Now try to organize the border in Syria, our limited contingent.
          1. +2
            4 December 2015 12: 08
            You can’t close it. You need to bomb fuel trucks.
            1. 0
              4 December 2015 13: 27
              Ambush trails, driving routes. To cause artillery and aviation strikes on penetrating groups.
          2. +2
            4 December 2015 12: 18
            Thanks for the interesting informative post!
            1. +1
              4 December 2015 13: 59
              On Tuesday, Barack Obama said: “I have repeatedly had talks with Erdogan about the need to close the border of Turkey and Syria

              The phrase is true in the style of Macaque ... had conversations or had Erdogan talking?
              1. 0
                4 December 2015 18: 44
                To be precise, it’s
                Erdogan raped him and a conversation ...
          3. +2
            4 December 2015 12: 19
            Quote: opus
            try to organize the border in Syria, our limited contingent.

            Russia will not organize the protection of the Syrian border today. Yes, and tomorrow too. There is only one way out, to break all the oil tankers, if possible.
            1. -5
              4 December 2015 12: 43
              Then it’s easier to flood the oil tanker in the port. And let the fuel trucks stand. Nonsense these shelling of fuel trucks. That break a well, a terminal, flood a tanker, yes. And fuel trucks are babbling, a game for the public.
              1. +2
                4 December 2015 13: 53
                Quote: Region 34
                Then it’s easier to flood the oil tanker in the port

                Well, well, for more details please.
                In Syria, "left-handed" oil is not shipped at any port! Only in Turkey! I suspect that a Russian plane shot down over Syrian territory is not enough for someone. Someone really wants to go to a real war against the NATO army.
                And the consequences of the flooding of the tanker are very tangible. That is what a man who has never seen oil spilled into the sea can say. Send you to land from the sea, to the oil spill area. And that tanker is not the only ship in the world. Think, think, at least sometimes!
            2. +1
              4 December 2015 13: 50
              Quote: Hedgehog
              Russia will not organize the protection of the Syrian border today.

              I know. Rather, it can’t. For this, a contingent of 10000 fighters is also needed.
              i'm out of snappy
              Quote: Gxash
              close ourselves from Syria and Iraq! To whom it will be worse after that, it is well known!
              answered (or rather proved the impossibility thereof)
              Quote: Hedgehog
              There is only one way out, to break all the oil tankers, if possible.

              will receive money:
              - with drugs
              - from the slave trade (rate of $ 13000- $ 40000 per head captured)
              - illegal traffic and arms sales
              - cover business and roads
              well and so on
              One way out:
              - destroy Qatar (and oil prices would stabilize, and funding for Daesh would cease, and a state using slaves would cease to exist, etc.)... But this is not feasible, unfortunately
              - Destroy (95% order) Daish. Yes, even napalm and cluster bp.
              -Well, of course, Turkey’s answer, as the tourists leave: 1-2 F-16 or 1 on the submarine (209) I think it will suit everyone. Then the Turks will take control of the border (not in gratitude, but for themselves)
              1. +1
                4 December 2015 14: 00
                Quote: opus
                There is only one way out: - destroy Qatar (

                Yes, this is not real. Perdostan will intervene for his vassal and pull his jackals
                As long as Syria is able and willing, it would be good to actively help it "kill" this Islamic abomination.
          4. +1
            4 December 2015 15: 53
            In fact, the "Uzbeks" were invented in 1924 and named after Uzbek Khan))) The Uzbek language, like the Ukrainian, is the same artificial "creation" of the Bolsheviks. So, in the province of Balkh, it is not "Uzbeks" who live at all, since there were never Soviet power and communists there)) And all the poets, writers and enlightened figures on the territory of modern Uzbekistan spoke and worked in Farsi and did not recognize any which they paid in the years of repression.
          5. +1
            4 December 2015 15: 53
            In fact, the "Uzbeks" were invented in 1924 and named after Uzbek Khan))) The Uzbek language, like the Ukrainian, is the same artificial "creation" of the Bolsheviks. So, in the province of Balkh, it is not "Uzbeks" who live at all, since there were never Soviet power and communists there)) And all the poets, writers and enlightened figures on the territory of modern Uzbekistan spoke and worked in Farsi and did not recognize any which they paid in the years of repression.
        3. -1
          4 December 2015 15: 12
          _Vladislav_
          The Turkish government rejected the American demand "for two reasons: because it is unrealistic
          Of course it’s unrealistic ....

          Not! DO NOT CLOSE !! Judge for yourself - they will close it, but how can ERDOGAN be told to the whole world THAT RUSSIAN EVERY DAY ... IS ILLEGAL ... DO NOT NOTIFY THE TURKISH GOVERNMENT ... DO NOT PAY TAXES ... THROUGHOUT THE TERRITORY OF THE LEGAL-ABHEAD TURKEY TAKE CARE 2 3 million tons of oil per week from ISIS, loaded onto tankers and ... After all, close the border and then you have to admit that this is the work of the President of Turkey ... so you can’t blame your sins on anyone ... And so ... FAS IN RUSSIAN! ATU THEM !!! ATU !!!
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      3. +10
        4 December 2015 11: 17
        Friendship is friendship, and the tablets are apart. Business and interests just won't give up their interests. No one offers billions in compensation.
      4. +9
        4 December 2015 11: 20
        Quote: Gxash
        They will not close from Turkey, they themselves will close from Syria and Iraq! Who will get worse after that is quite known! am

        Already made such a statement. So what are we waiting for.
      5. +6
        4 December 2015 11: 32
        Quote: Gxash
        They will not close from Turkey, they themselves will close from Syria and Iraq!

        Faster, he will quarrel with ISIS and those around the world will announce the closure of the border with Turkey.
      6. +4
        4 December 2015 11: 41
        It turns out that the Turks are not even able to calculate the situation one step ahead ... Well, it is not clear to anyone that we, in this case, with a clear conscience, will contribute to the Syrian army and the Kurds to close the border from Syria.
      7. +1
        4 December 2015 14: 44
        How are they burning? This is soooo ....
    2. +6
      4 December 2015 11: 16
      Yes stubborn man sends Americans! His obstinacy would turn him into a fight by terrorists would not be worth it, but he chose a different path, on which he would deign.
      1. +19
        4 December 2015 11: 35
        Yes, this is a performance! Do you seriously think that Turkey, a member of NATO, has not complied with the demands of the black gentleman? Yes, not a joke! The meaning of the production is that America is doing everything to eliminate ISIS, you see how good it is, but it doesn’t work out ...
        1. PAM
          +1
          4 December 2015 11: 48
          Barack Obama said: “I have had conversations with Erdogan on the need to close the border between Turkey and Syria. We see serious progress
          By progress, apparently understands - that Turkey has advanced troops to the borders of Syria, pretending to be blocking?
    3. +5
      4 December 2015 11: 21
      How the Turks will close the border from their "patrons"? It's like a sickle on ... (well, waist-deep)
    4. +2
      4 December 2015 11: 23
      Ours have already smashed more than a thousand fuel trucks out of 8500, and we will finish the rest. If the border before this Peshmerga does not close, with our help.
      1. +4
        4 December 2015 11: 33
        laughing laughing laughing
        What was required to prove, or rather, evidence did not require.
        Interestingly, the states will endure the plunge? We need to bomb everything, but it would be less, but such a wick was inserted into the amers. laughing Just bursting to find out what the "exceptional" will do now?
    5. +4
      4 December 2015 11: 45
      On November 26, units of the Turkish army invaded Syria and occupied a 50-meter-high Tal-Ziyab hill. Infantrymen crossed the border, accompanied by bulldozers. Occupying the height, they immediately began to build fortified areas, and a day later three tanks, two infantry fighting vehicles and several armored SUVs arrived at the place. Obviously, with this step, Turkey wants not only to divide the territory where the Kurds live in half, but also to cover the supply of tanks with Syrian oil, which Daesh militants * are taking out of Raqqa.
    6. +3
      4 December 2015 11: 49
      they are fighting with Daesh, and we are against Daesh wink
    7. +3
      4 December 2015 11: 53
      Obama apparently saw "serious progress" in the fact that Erdogan listened to him, and "certain gaps" - that Erdogan spat on his so-called demand.

      On the other hand, if Obama really had a demand, then it would be fulfilled instantly, even a tower would stand every meter.
    8. 0
      4 December 2015 12: 16
      This Turkish horseradish leads the country into the abyss, which I soon smell as Ukrainian horseradish.
      1. 0
        4 December 2015 12: 22
        And he is already ogreb? It seems that in Kiev he directs and receives parcels with NATO weapons.
    9. +1
      4 December 2015 12: 39
      Oil for him is a pleasant bonus and the opportunity to spend less money on war from the budget. He always promoted the creation of a new Ottoman Empire. And for this he needs to squeeze something from the neighbors. Greece is a member of NATO, Armenia is a CSTO, Iran is a powerful country enough to overcome something without a long war. But Syria is just that. That is why Erdogan did his best to disperse the civil war there, supporting the militants and supplying them. Oil is just a way to make the process self-sustaining and reduce its costs. And the goal is not to give the Kurds a chance to create their own state or autonomy, to overcome the north of Syria in Aleppo and the north of Latakia. In general, everything went gorgeous, but here we came - zrada. Moreover, the oil business began to crush, which means that more money will have to be invested from the budget of Turkey and Qatar. And money, oddly enough for local couch strategists, can only be made from the air by states. If it has arrived somewhere, then it has disappeared from somewhere. If more money has to be invested in militants and ISIS, then they will not go to other domestic goals. Well, this is fraught with unrest in Turkey and a fall in the rating of Erdogashi.
    10. 0
      4 December 2015 13: 09
      Regarding Erdogan, everything has been arranged for so long
      to your places! This is just another statement of facts!
      Erdogan is before all a cheap swindler! Doing your business
      on the blood of innocent people! Muslims have a suitable after-
      lanie to such as Erdogan. HARAM !!! So, HARAM YERDOGANU
      and to all those who are involved in this bloody business !!!
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  3. +15
    4 December 2015 11: 15
    Turkish government rejects American demand

    Earlier, Washington reported that “it has repeatedly asked Ankara to block the problem area of ​​the border,”


    ,,, performance for the public ,,,
    1. +3
      4 December 2015 11: 17
      by itself! there is worse than mhat!
    2. +2
      4 December 2015 11: 56
      Quote: bubalik
      ,,, performance for the public ,,,

      like all US public policies based on lies, nothing new since Hitler. People are only those with Wall street, and the rest are supplies.
  4. +6
    4 December 2015 11: 15
    Well, why am I not surprised, already openly they say it is our cow and we ourselves will milk it.
    1. +7
      4 December 2015 11: 19
      Only the Syrian milk (I mean oil), and the Turkish is not a cow, but a goat, which they launched in the Syrian garden!
  5. +4
    4 December 2015 11: 15
    The owner badly trained the dog - he does not listen at all. wink
  6. +21
    4 December 2015 11: 16
    everything will be so and not otherwise!
    1. +1
      4 December 2015 11: 46
      nda ... not really good photoshop.
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    3. +3
      4 December 2015 11: 58
      Not yet. Putin said that they will not get off with tomatoes. And the agonizing expectation of the main dish of Putin's revenge, contained in his phrase "we know what to do", may drive not only Erdogan mad laughing
    4. 0
      4 December 2015 12: 00
      Here people posted photos of Golum and Erdogando **, well, "smiled" and that's it .. and then I read)))) laughing
      The Times
      Gollum or Erdogan: where is the insult?
      3th of December 2015
      Experts will analyze the character of Gollum from The Lord of the Rings to help the court decide whether comparing the Turkish president to Tolkien's anti-hero was an insult. Under Erdogan, the number of criminal cases under the article for insulting the president rose sharply.

      Generally zachotny article American Thinker, USA
      For that matter, the Russians are in Syria at the invitation of the authorities, while the Americans and Turks are not. Vladimir Putin called the incident "a stab in the back" inflicted by "accomplices of terrorists." And this time, the Russian president is right - in both respects.
      http://inosmi.ru/politic/20151204/234679517.html

      Obama's team is quite content with not paying attention to the ISIS-Ankara axis. That's for sure, today from Turkey is the same NATO ally as from AIDS - a cure for pneumonia.
  7. +4
    4 December 2015 11: 16
    There is only one progress: Russia is bombing these caravans! But Erdogan just went to the bank, as it is evident, the owner is no longer a decree to him. Well, let's see what it will result in, but it’s certain that it’s nothing good for him.
    1. +3
      4 December 2015 11: 48
      The Turkish government rejected the American demand "for two reasons: because it is unrealistic, and also because the other side can take a hostile position, starting to build up forces on the border,"

      Of course, after all, the Turkish Fuhrer claims that it is Syria
      and Russia is trading in ISIS oil. am
      The cards are revealed, the picture is clear. The family business of pidrogan, oh, erdogan above all.
      I wish the GDP of patience and health, Russia defeat ISIS.
      They want to starve us economically, politically.
      We have stopped so many n \ o \ d \ o \ n \ k \ o \ dictators, we can handle this as well. It’s time to clean inside the country
      mold and all kinds of columns. Pleased with measures to strengthen security in crowded places. Everything is done clearly, unobtrusively and with dignity, today I saw it myself. But this is not enough. I am for the law of deprivation of citizenship for anti-state activities. hi
  8. +4
    4 December 2015 11: 17
    Who would doubt that.
  9. +4
    4 December 2015 11: 17
    Who would doubt laughing
    They do not want, do not ... close on the Syrian side.
    Just warn that everything that enters / exits or enters / exits to / from the ATS will be destroyed.
    1. 0
      4 December 2015 12: 13
      Quote: Pharao7766
      close on the syrian side.

      Yes, just spit. What does it cost us ... One thing is not clear. If the Syrian army is thrown from the battlefield to the border, then who will fight and liberate the cities, And if you leave everything as it is, then who will guard the border? I doubt very much that these will be Russians sitting on VO and beating their heels in the chest!
  10. +10
    4 December 2015 11: 19
    Symptoms of oil and oil product poisoning: "Depending on the severity of intoxication, they manifest themselves in the form of neurasthenic, asthenovegetative or asthenic syndrome, and in the most severe cases, encephalopathy." Everyone arrived, I think - not a tenant ... The way out is euthanasia!
  11. +4
    4 December 2015 11: 19
    What does Obama see there, PROGRESS?
    What kind of grass does he smoke or what does he drink, what does he see?
    There is a picture, the visually impaired became the president of the USA!
    It is their policy to hire the blind, deaf and wretched to work in the government!
  12. +7
    4 December 2015 11: 19
    The Turks once again demonstrated their unity with the Ishilovites. Can it really begin to bombard oil columns and places of accumulation of tankers by ODAB? Of course, with the fighter cover of our bombers and the inevitable downing of ALL Turkish combat aircraft in the area of ​​our aviation?
    Nerves just aren’t enough already, although I understand that you won’t solve everything so simply
  13. +4
    4 December 2015 11: 19
    Turkish leadership in time trouble. Becomes unmanageable. There is a high likelihood of inflating the "danger of Kurdish terrorism".
  14. +4
    4 December 2015 11: 22
    On Tuesday, Barack Obama said: “I have repeatedly had conversations with Erdogan about the need to close the border between Turkey and Syria. We see serious progress in this, but certain gaps still remain. ” Ah, today is Friday. Erdogan is a man. He gave the word, he took the word! Or Barack, do you think that they can only shoot at us stealthily? Sit and wrap.
  15. +8
    4 December 2015 11: 22
    Erdogan’s disobedience to Obama reminds me of the disobedience of activists who blew up supports in Hohland.
    those. I’m talking, but not at all against it :))
  16. +5
    4 December 2015 11: 22
    Heater Obama! Say, I’ll say, close, and you, Erdogan, say, I won’t close. Did you understand, a block of wood?
  17. +2
    4 December 2015 11: 22
    I remember the prophetic words of the "great Russian singer" P. Gagarina - "The play is over, the lights are out! And there are no more dots!" laughing Well, in the subject? laughing laughing laughing
  18. +7
    4 December 2015 11: 23
    "to put observation towers with soldiers every three meters", and then why not a palisade of towers?
    1. +2
      4 December 2015 11: 29
      Looks like the Great Ukrainian Wall, don't you find?
      1. +5
        4 December 2015 11: 31
        So Turkey itself looks like Ukraine ...
        1. +1
          4 December 2015 11: 34
          There is an old bearded anecdote. Two cowboys are going, and one decided to hit the other, so to speak. He asks: "Don't you think that in this hat, you look like a p-sa?" The second takes a drag on his cigar and replies, "please, I can swipe the other way."
  19. +2
    4 December 2015 11: 23
    well, that’s all that it wasn’t even necessary to prove, the Yankees themselves won’t climb on the rampage, the Kurds remain ???
  20. +2
    4 December 2015 11: 25
    They do not want to close - EXCELLENT !!! The Syrian army needs to take full control of this area as soon as possible. By all means, it is necessary to block the border with Turkey. The sooner this happens, the easier it will be to smash Daesh.
  21. +2
    4 December 2015 11: 25
    Erdogan bit the bit! In principle, why not. Who can pull him out of the SGA? BUT...
    On Tuesday, Barack Obama said: “I have repeatedly had conversations with Erdogan about the need to close the border between Turkey and Syria. We see serious progress in this, but certain gaps still remain. ”
    And problems can be solved as long as you want, At least until the elections. And there, let the new president have a headache.
  22. +1
    4 December 2015 11: 27
    Ankara refused to fulfill Washington's demand

    Erdogan suffered against the backdrop of recent events, and obviously in the distance. They could not stand the nerves, even against the United States, stood in a pose to try to show the Turks how cool he was no matter what. And the United States will have sediment.
  23. +1
    4 December 2015 11: 30
    Yesterday I read the prediction of different predictors - the general picture is such that in 2016 Russia will close the Middle East topic wink and everyone will be drawn to Russia = so gentlemen Europeans, democrats and liberals may not take you into a bright future wink
    1. +1
      4 December 2015 11: 50
      If you remove the apocalyptic paintings, the bottom line will remain the main essence of the predictions:
      “For the sake of giving Constantinople to the Greeks, the Russians will lay down millions of their own heads, smash half the world into the trash and flood the present Istanbul with their blood. At the same time, Greece is not going to participate in this banquet. to command the one who deigned "...

      Somewhere I have already seen it ... Maybe the "brothers" who graciously deigned to let the Russians die for their own freedom and independence?
    2. +2
      4 December 2015 12: 01
      Yesterday I read the prediction of different predictors - the general picture is that in 2016 Russia will close the Middle East topic wink and everyone will be drawn to Russia = so gentlemen Europeans, democrats and liberals may not take you into a bright future wink

      I really want to believe, but I am plagued by vague doubts ... everything is neglected and very serious interests are intertwined in this region. And about predictions ... at the very beginning of the 90s there were many predictions, but I remember one thing. Local wars will be waged on the outskirts of Russia (this was predicted even before Chechnya), it will weaken greatly, but after a decade of upheavals it will emerge and withstand, its army will become even stronger and surprise the world with its might of spirit. A big war will begin in the south of the Cross and the Crescent, but at first Russia will not participate in it and only at the last stage will it enter this war and win. Only this will not end there, Europe will be destroyed. But I don’t remember whether it was about the political side, or in the literal sense. At that time, it was not particularly believed in such predictions - what a revival of Russia there! Inflation of hundreds of percent, devastation at enterprises ... Predictors are 99% nonsense, especially the country's chief astrologer with his miraculous forecasts, but 1% is still real By the way, a couple of years before Yeltsin left, there was a TV program about military "predictors" - they talked about how they managed to reduce the accident rate of aircraft as a result of using something like numerology and astrology - by the date of manufacture of the aircraft and the birth of the pilot, and they said that the future president will have the letters "V" and "P" in his first and last name I'm sure for the accuracy of the letters, but when Putin became I remembered this. So WANT BELIEVE, WANT NOT, BUT THERE IS SOMETHING wassat
  24. -1
    4 December 2015 11: 30
    Well, we do that too. Obama demanded that Putin order Donetsk to stop shooting. Putin turned to the militia - I urge to end the conflict. Nah, they answered him. See, Putin told Obama - I called, but they don’t listen. laughing Interestingly, Obama is capitalized on the machine, but Putin is not. Outrage. It should be the other way around.
  25. +15
    4 December 2015 11: 31
    Ankara refused to block the border with Syria
    Fuel trucks, fuel trucks ..
  26. +3
    4 December 2015 11: 33
    To convince Erdogan, there is little talk of persuasion.
    It requires sparring.
    With Putin.
  27. +4
    4 December 2015 11: 33
    (We see significant progress in this ...)

    I'm wondering, sir, what progress do you see? Firstly, you need to look exactly in the TU direction, and secondly, what progress can be made if your "ally" sends you to the "macaque" in response to your instruction to strengthen and strengthen something there.
    It seems that the "blackest" eater of "Chuingema" is clearly not himself. bully
  28. +3
    4 December 2015 11: 36
    Turkey is not satisfied with the old border line, they would like to add a couple of thousand km2 under the "vegetable garden".
  29. +3
    4 December 2015 11: 41
    Or maybe "Buratino" will help to make a control strip along the Turkish border?
  30. +2
    4 December 2015 11: 43
    Well, well, we are waiting for the next provocation and the invasion of Turkey in Syria ...

    in theory, Poroshenko’s attack on the Donbass should begin simultaneously.
  31. +1
    4 December 2015 11: 44
    On Tuesday, Barack Obama said: “I have repeatedly had conversations with Erdogan about the need to close the border between Turkey and Syria. M

    Hmm, somehow it turns out badly, a clear disrespect for the Dark Lord)))
    The result will be Kurdistan and Petty Turkey, Iraq has already nibbled, Syria in the process, Turkey and Iran on the agenda.
  32. 0
    4 December 2015 11: 44
    Generally fun, they gave PERDogan nuts)))))))))) horseradish and not oil))))))))) that they can’t close the border well, you don’t have to close it soon and they will take control of the Syrian troops! but PERDogan will be afraid to go)))
  33. +2
    4 December 2015 11: 45
    Americans, through Turkey’s coordinated refusal of Turkey, are pulling their European NATO satellites into adventurous ground operations closer to Assad’s Russian assistants in order to sharply increase the possibility of military clashes of the international bloc through planned provocations. Without their military presence, no one will give Turkey money. There are no legitimate reasons for the introduction of ground troops - they are inventing stalemate mnogohodovki. Until Syria overlaps, Turkey and Amers will not be scratched. They benefit from a mess on the border.
  34. +1
    4 December 2015 11: 46
    In the photo - they burn beautifully !!! fellow
  35. +1
    4 December 2015 11: 47
    From Turkey, the United States needs one thing to block the exit from the Black Sea at the command of Russia.
    Whether he is a terrorist or not, an Islamist is someone else, it doesn’t matter.
    That's when he makes it clear that the straits will be independently controlled without regard to the US and NATO.
    Only then will they hang him for one place. But this is unlikely.
    For the United States and the Islamists will always be against Russia, and their interests in this coincide.
    Here is such a black axis of evil.

    Hk and lastly.
    He's their "son of a bitch" ...
  36. 0
    4 December 2015 11: 48
    I found the source, if anyone is interested. http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/3-metreye-bir-asker-mi-dikelim-40022084
    They want to build some kind of wall. Mumblers, really believe them !? Apparently yes!
  37. 0
    4 December 2015 11: 52
    Here is another very interesting article, especially comments) And how about you: EU trolls !?))
    http://sosyal.hurriyet.com.tr/yazar/ahmet-hakan_131/rus-palavrasina-gore-koc-isi
    dden-petrol-aliyor_40022581
  38. +1
    4 December 2015 11: 56
    In my opinion, there is NO DIFFERENCE between the open border and the border closed by the Turkish authorities!
  39. +1
    4 December 2015 11: 59
    Another thing is curious. Yesterday, a message flashed that, they say, the Kurds declared destroyed 1000 of their oil tankers! That is, Russia destroyed, allegedly, not the oil carriers ISIS-DAISH, but Kurdish. I wonder what the United States promised the Kurds that they began to shield Erdogan?
  40. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 06
    Erdogan still has some gaps.

    Certain problems! How sweet that at least Ob-Mom recognizes it.
    laughing
  41. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 06
    Erdogan is in vain with an uncle from the United States. Uncle really doesn’t like to be refused him, and Erdogan is irreplaceable. Anything can happen now. There are more than enough generals of the Turkish army who are dissatisfied with Erdogan.
    1. +1
      4 December 2015 12: 36
      I would not be so categorical regarding Turkey and the United States. It is very likely that they play the same game together, but they only have different roles, but playing with the United States is like getting a board on the head if you start making the wrong moves .
      And Turkey is a madman who plays with a grenade in a crowd of people.
  42. +2
    4 December 2015 12: 08
    Strange army: if you put Turkish soldiers every three meters, but without towers, then the border will still be transparent for militants and tankers? :-)
  43. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 15
    Well, who voluntarily abandons such a profitable business? Besides, at least someone believes that Turkey can disobey the staff? They say they will close the straits, which is much more serious, they will close it without hesitation, and then they clashed against the border, clowns ...
  44. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 19
    It is imperative that the Kurds arm the MANPADS.
    1. 0
      4 December 2015 13: 23
      Well, of course, wait, ours already ran to them to distribute MANPADS to the right and to the left.
  45. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 21
    Yes, what is Washington’s demand there? They stupidly scolded, and more than that it’s a performance in a bad and good cop ...
  46. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 22
    Yesterday, our diplomatic grandmaster of the highest level, Sergey Lavrov, very accurately described Erdogan's convulsive attempts to excuse himself from the thieves' trade in Syrian and Iraqi oil with ISIS ... "The hat is on fire!" The same hat is "burning" on his American owners, do not see this criminal scheme of the Turkish authorities with terrorists ...
  47. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 26
    and also because the other side can take a hostile position by starting to build up forces at the border


    Sorry, I did not understand this point. Does it mean that Big and terrible Turkey is afraid of ISIS? Because on the other side is exactly ISIS. It turns out some kind of nonsense, like "I am afraid that the tiger will scratch me, so I feed him."
  48. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 27
    Burn with a hot iron - in the sense of bombs and rockets. They completely lost the scent. They want the Ottoman port again? Drive for greyhound and unreasonable demands and actions into caves. They have enough of them there. There were already a few dodgers who wanted various empires, and only by means of physical elimination can peace be achieved.
  49. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 30
    Quote: sever.56

    So what will "tovarisch" Obama say in response now? Will he again assert that Turkey is an active fighter against Daesh ???


    No, everything is easier, at the next briefing they will say "we do not have such information" ...
  50. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 31
    Quote: Snail N9
    Another thing is curious. Yesterday, a message flashed that, they say, the Kurds declared destroyed 1000 of their oil tankers! That is, Russia destroyed, allegedly, not the oil carriers ISIS-DAISH, but Kurdish. I wonder what the United States promised the Kurds that they began to shield Erdogan?


    Yeah and Kurds transported oil to refineries in Turkey laughing
    Where is the proof?
    1. -1
      4 December 2015 14: 32
      "Proof, proof" .. and search the Internet for "proof" yourself, what laziness? Or "we don't know how"?
      Вот пруф" http://www.rbc.ru/politics/03/12/2015/56609bba9a79472dabc8cb71
  51. +1
    4 December 2015 12: 33
    One gets the impression that Turkey made such a statement on purpose. For example, as was stated by the GDP, in order to drag NATO into the war with the Islamists in Syria. This is at least one of the options why such a statement was made.
    Russia’s reaction to this Turkish statement will be understandable. But it will be interesting to look at the actions of the United States, namely actions and not words, and it will also be interesting to see what Qatar and the Saudis (who ardently sponsor the Islamists and Turkey itself) will do.
    Europe will apparently take the position of an ostrich and nothing more.
    As everyone here probably understands, Turkey is fomenting war and drawing more and more countries into this bloody whirlpool. Turkey is also setting Europe on fire with their stupid tolerance, and which state remains quiet, so to speak? Hint: this state threatens the entire planet and is located behind a large puddle?
  52. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 36
    I wonder if anyone actually thought they would step on their own balls?
  53. +1
    4 December 2015 12: 41
    Quote: Pharao7766
    Who would doubt laughing
    They do not want, do not ... close on the Syrian side.
    Just warn that everything that enters / exits or enters / exits to / from the ATS will be destroyed.

    I forgot it's also FLYING hi
  54. 0
    4 December 2015 13: 27
    I don’t think that Erdogan just refused to block the border for the United States. Or rather, of course he did it, but only officially, for show. The USA is again white and fluffy - we, they say, told them, they refused, they even gave some kind of clumsy argumentation. Erdogan doesn’t need to close the border with Syria, he needs money, and Syria itself and the United States, understanding this, play along with him.
  55. 0
    4 December 2015 14: 07
    A split of interests begins, soon there will be a war.
  56. 0
    4 December 2015 14: 21
    The border has always had a contiguous side. If they don’t want to close the border on that side, you can always close it on the opposite side! The problem is not big! wink
  57. 0
    4 December 2015 15: 23
    Minefields by the Syrian army after missile strikes by the Aerospace Forces.
  58. 0
    4 December 2015 17: 40
    Whether Türkiye will close the border with Syria or not, it makes no difference. It’s even better, more honest.
  59. 0
    5 December 2015 10: 31
    Intensify the hunt for caravans and close the border with government troops and Kurdish militias, with their further autonomy within Syria.
  60. 0
    5 December 2015 14: 56
    Is this a riot on the ship or is Erdogan completely losing his mind? And they rushed to Syria and Iraq, they will get lyuli both here and there, and again they will run under the wing of the Yankees to complain that they were offended...