Russia, Turkey and the "Crimean Question"

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The aggravation of relations with Turkey once again drew attention to the problem of the Crimea. It is no secret that since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Turkey has considered Crimea as a zone of its geopolitical interests. While the Crimea was part of the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire, Turkey, who suffered numerous defeats in the Russian-Turkish wars and ceased to be an empire as a result of defeat in the First World War, did not risk bringing any territorial claims to the powerful northern neighbor. However, the collapse of the USSR and the transition of the Crimea to the newly-formed state of Ukraine significantly changed Turkey’s approach to the “Crimean issue”. Moreover, on the eve of the collapse of the USSR to the Crimea, the return of the Crimean Tatars deported under Stalin to Central Asia and Kazakhstan began. As is known, the Crimean Tatars are one of the Turkic nations closest to the Turks in the linguistic and cultural respect.



Joining the Crimea to Russia

For a long time, until joining Russia, the Crimea was part of the Crimean Khanate and was thus in vassal dependence on Ottoman Turkey. Accordingly, the Crimean Tatars were closely associated with their co-religionists on the southern coast of the Black Sea. The period of the existence of the Crimean Khanate was the heyday of the Turkic-Muslim culture in the Crimea. In fact, it was a common cultural space with Ottoman Turkey. The annexation of the Crimea to the Russian Empire was caused by the need to secure the southern borders of the country, namely, Novorossia, from the constant attacks of the Nogai hordes under the control of the Crimean Khanate. In the steppes of the Northern Black Sea coast, Nogai tribes roamed and made regular raids on Russian lands in order to capture slaves and then sell them on slave markets in the Crimean Khanate and the Ottoman Empire. The slave trade was one of the most important sources of income for the Crimean Khanate. The total number of slaves stolen in the Russian, Little Russian, Polish-Lithuanian lands and sold into slavery in the Crimean Khanate is estimated at three million people. In the XVI-XVII centuries. Crimean Tatars and Nogai used for attacks on Russian territory Muravsky Way from Perekop to Tula. The South Russian lands, despite their fertility and good climatic conditions, were forced to remain virtually deserted - and this is the main "merit" belongs to the Crimean Khanate. Who will return to Russia millions of people driven into slavery and perished in a foreign land, or replenished someone else's gene pool?

As the Russian empire moved south, inevitably the question arose of the need to eliminate the threat from the Crimean Khanate. Russian troops undertook campaigns "to the Crimea", which caused serious damage to the Crimean Tatars. Thus, in 1736, the march of Field Marshal Christopher Minich ended with the burning of the Khan's capital, Bakhchisarai, as well as the devastation of settlements in the Piedmont Crimea. Minich’s campaign dealt a serious blow to the economy of the Crimean Peninsula, which marked the beginning of the end of centuries-old stories the Khanate. In 1768 was another Russian-Turkish war began, as a result of which the army of Prince V.M. Dolgorukova entered the territory of the Crimea and within two months occupied the entire peninsula. Bakhchisarai was again destroyed, and the Crimean Khan Selim III fled to Istanbul. New Khan was elected Sahib II Gerai. July 10 1774 city Russia and the Ottoman Empire concluded the Kyuchuk-Kaynardzhi peace treaty, in accordance with which the Crimean Khanate was recognized as an independent state from Ottoman Turkey. The southern coast of the Crimean peninsula, formerly owned directly by the Ottoman Empire, also passed to the Crimean Khanate. At the same time, the sultan of the Ottoman Empire retained the status of the supreme head of the Crimean Muslims and, accordingly, got the opportunity to influence the cultural and political life of the Crimean Khanate. In particular, the supreme Qadi (judges) were appointed by the Ottoman Sultan. However, despite the concessions to Turkey, Russia ultimately won from the conclusion of the treaty. After all, she not only “severed” the Khanate from Turkey, but also got under her control the strategically important Kinburn, Kerch and Yenikale, as well as the possibility of sailing across the Black Sea. The history of the annexation of Crimea to Russia is quite long and interesting, but it hardly makes sense to retell it in the framework of this article. It is only necessary to note the main milestones that contributed to the annexation of the Crimea. And above all - this is the migration of the Christian peoples of the peninsula to Russia. Before joining the Russian Empire, three main groups of nations lived in the Crimea. The first group is the Crimean Muslims, which included subethnos of the Crimean Tatars, Nogais, Turks, Circassians, Crimean Roma (Crimea) and gypsy groups (gurbats, urmachels). Muslims in the Crimean Khanate had a privileged position and were opposed to being part of the Russian Empire. The second group - the Crimean Jews, which included Turkic groups of Karaites - descendants of the Khazars and Krymchaks - Turkic Jews, among whom there were many immigrants from Italy, even during the Genoese colonization of the Crimean peninsula settled in the Crimean trading cities. The third group is the Crimean Christians, which included Crimean Armenians, Greeks, Italians, Georgians, Volokhs (Romanians), and Slavs. In the economy of the Crimean peninsula, the main role was played by Christian peoples who were engaged in farming, crafts and trade. Therefore, started in 1778. AV Suvorov's relocation of Christians from the Crimea to Russia - in the Azov Sea region, contributed to the final undermining of the economy of the Crimean Khanate. Here we allow ourselves to assess the resettlement "from high above" of the past two centuries. Of course, in the period under review, the resettlement of Crimean Christians was beneficial to Russia, because, firstly, it undermined the economy of the Crimean Khanate, secondly, it contributed to the economic development of the southern Russian sparsely populated lands, where the Christians resettled, , which in the event of war with the Crimean Khanate could seriously suffer. But, at the same time, the resettlement of Crimean Christians actually gave grounds for the Crimean Tatar nationalists to say that it is the Crimean Tatars who are the only indigenous people of Crimea, and the Slavic population in Crimea is alien.

In turn, the entry of the Crimea into Russia led to serious changes in the ethnic structure of the population of the peninsula. First of all, the emigration of the Crimean Tatars to the Ottoman Empire began, in which both the representatives of the Crimean Tatar aristocracy and the well-to-do segments of the population, as well as ordinary peasants, took part. In 1790 Dozens, if not hundreds of thousands of Crimean Tatars, Turks, Circassians and other Muslims left the Crimea. Turkish historians talk about 200-250 thousands of Crimean Tatars who moved to Rumelia. At the same time, after the completion of the first wave of the “exodus” of the Crimean Tatars, the scale of emigration was no longer so great - after all, the number of the Tatar population in Crimea since the beginning of the 19th century. to 1850, it grew from 137 thousand to 242 thousand people - almost doubled. During the first half of the XIX century, the Crimean Tatars practically did not emigrate to the Ottoman Empire. This was facilitated by the policy of the Russian authorities, aimed at attracting the Crimean Tatar aristocracy to their side. However, the Crimean War caused the second wave of emigration of the Crimean Tatars to the territory of the Ottoman Empire. The fact is that after the start of the Crimean War, many Crimean Tatars hoped that the Ottoman Empire, with the support of Great Britain and France, would eventually succeed in repulsing Crimea from Russia. Therefore, a significant part of the Crimean Tatars collaborated with the enemy after the end of the Crimean War, making sure that the peninsula remained within the Russian Empire, chose to leave its borders and leave for Turkey. As a result of the second wave of emigration of the Crimean Tatars, the scale of which is estimated at 200 thousands of people, the steppe areas of the peninsula were practically deserted. In Turkey, the Crimean Tatars constituted an imposing community, most of which, however, due to linguistic and cultural affinity with the Turks, subsequently completely dissolved in the Turkish environment. Currently in Turkey there are about 130-150 of thousands of people who identify themselves as “Tatars”. Much of the Turkish Tatars live in the Eskisehir area. Approximately another 40-50 of thousands of Crimean Tatars live in Romania, which in the period of emigration from the Crimea was part of the Ottoman Empire.



Crimean Tatars in Russia and the USSR

Naturally, the annexation of the Crimean peninsula to the Russian Empire and the settlement of Crimea by immigrants from other regions of the Russian state changed the ethnic, religious, socio-economic appearance of the peninsula almost beyond recognition. Of course, the Crimean culture of the pre-Russian period is interesting and deserves respect, but it was precisely joining the Russian state that gave Crimea an incentive for genuine economic and cultural development. The Crimean peninsula has turned into a unique region of Russia, where for more than two centuries completely different and distinctive cultures coexisted - Russian, Greek, Crimean Tatar, Karaite, Krymchak, Bulgarian, Armenian, etc. However, it was Russian culture that became unifying for Crimea. Over two centuries of joining the Russian state, Crimea has become one of the most important regions of Russia, with which not only political and military, but also the cultural history and modernity of our country are inextricably linked. Despite the small territory, the peninsula strategically important for Russia has acquired symbolic significance - what is one city of Russian glory and Russian worth fleet Sevastopol?

Despite the fact that Crimea has been a part of Russia for two centuries, Turkey has never stopped looking at the blessed land of the peninsula with appetite, seeing in any temporary weakening of the Russian state a likely chance for the realization of its revenge-seeking aspirations. The collapse of the Soviet Union stirred up Ankara’s earlier appetites. The fact is that the obviously weak and indecisive Ukrainian government was unable to keep the Crimea within Ukraine for a long time. Moreover, the very location of the Crimean Peninsula as part of Ukraine was a historical mistake. Nikita Khrushchev handed over the Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR, since Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union, and at that time very few could think of the impending collapse of the Soviet state. Boris Yeltsin again gave the Crimea "to Ukraine", who did not put forward territorial claims to Ukraine during the meeting in Belovezhskaya Pushcha and actually missed the possibility of a conflict-free return of the peninsula to the Russian state. As a result, the Crimea for twenty-three years was part of the Ukrainian state. During this time, new generations of Crimeans have had time to be born, grow up, become adult adults. As you know, the Crimean Tatars in 1944 were deported from the territory of the Crimea and resettled in Central Asia and Kazakhstan. The official reason for the deportation was the collaboration of the Crimean Tatar population with the Nazi invaders during the occupation of the peninsula. Meanwhile, at least 35 thousands of Crimean Tatars served in the ranks of the fighting Red Army, 36,6% of the Crimean Tatars who fought with the Soviet troops died on the battlefield. Five Crimean Tatars were awarded the highest state award of the USSR - the title of Hero of the Soviet Union. Among them are Major Tyifuk Abdul (1915-1945) Guard - the commander of the 2 Infantry Battalion of the 175 Guards Infantry Regiment of the 58 Guards Infantry Division, who died after assigning the title of Hero of the Soviet Union; Sergeant Major Uzeir Abdurakhmanov (1916-1992), Guard Major Abduraim Rashidov (1912-1984) - Deputy Commander of the 162 Guards Bomber Aviation Regiment; Guard Lieutenant Colonel Fetislyam Abilov (1915-2005) - Commander of the 130-th Guards Rifle Regiment of the 44-th Guards Rifle Division of the 65-th Army; foreman Seitnafe Seitveliyev (1919-1983). Renowned pilot Ametkhan Sultan was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union twice. Nevertheless, the deportation touched the heroes of World War II, as well as their family members. As a result of the deportation, which was universal, the Soviet Union acquired another negatively-minded nation.



Unlike Chechens, Ingushes, Karachays, Balkars, Kalmyks and a number of other peoples, the Crimean Tatars were not allowed to return to the Crimea until the 1989 year. In the wake of the struggle to return to the Crimea, the Crimean Tatar national movement arose and became widely known both in the country and abroad. It originated in Uzbekistan, where the majority of the Crimean Tatars were deported. Since 1960-ies. Crimean Tatar activists living in Uzbekistan began to periodically visit Crimea. However, the activity of the Crimean Tatar national movement was suppressed by law enforcement and intelligence agencies. At the same time, the Soviet leadership did not take any real measures to counter the national movement. As a result, a paradoxical situation was created - on the one hand, the Soviet leadership could not (or did not want?) To work out and implement a strategy to normalize relations with the Crimean Tatar population, on the other hand, opposition to the national movement of the Crimean Tatars was very sluggish. Now it looks like a deliberate creation of grounds for the West to accuse the Soviet state of oppressing national minorities. It was in 1970-1980-ies, during the struggle for the return of the Crimean Tatars to the Crimea, that many modern leaders of the Crimean Tatar national movement, including the well-known Mustafa Dzhemilev, began their political activities. However, until the beginning of the “perestroika”, the Soviet leadership did not take any measures towards solving the “Crimean Tatar issue”. Only in 1987 a commission was created headed by Andrei Gromyko. At this time, the Crimean Tatars made up only 1% of the population of the Crimea, 1% were the Crimean Tatars in Uzbekistan, where most of the deported families lived. Two years later, in 1989, the mass return of Crimean Tatars from Central Asia began. Initially, many Crimean Tatars, on the way to the Crimea, stayed in the Krasnodar Territory. Here, on Taman, the Crimean Tatar communities quickly appeared and strengthened in the villages. In Crimea, the Crimean Tatars returning from Central Asia began the practice of “self-capture” of vacant lands - after all, their houses and land were occupied by new tenants long ago. With 1991 2007 for years. on the territory of the Crimean peninsula, more than 40 of thousands of hectares of land were seized, where about 300 villages appeared for compact residence of the Crimean Tatar population. Since the southern coast of Crimea and Sevastopol were closed for the resettlement of the Crimean Tatars, they began to settle in the Simferopol region, along the Yevpatoriya highway, in Sudak, Alushta, and Partenit. Currently, the number of Crimean Tatars in the Crimea is about 250 thousand people, 10% of whom live in the capital of the Crimean Republic, Simferopol. Thus, the number of the Crimean Tatar population from 1989 to 2015. grew from 38 thousand to 250 thousand people. The Crimean Tatar population is distinguished by a higher demographic increase than the representatives of the other peoples of the Crimea. Against the background of constant land conflicts and social and everyday insecurity of many Crimean Tatars, during the 1990-s - 2000-s.

The Crimean Tatar nationalists have always played a certain role in forcing the situation. They tried to completely subordinate the entire Crimean Tatar people to their interests and arrogate to themselves the right to speak on behalf of all representatives of the Crimean Tatar population. At the same time, the leaders of nationalist organizations were guided not so much by the real needs of the Crimean Tatar population as by their own political and economic interests.

It is noteworthy that the activities of the Crimean Tatar nationalists were actually supported by the Ukrainian government and Ukrainian nationalist organizations. In fact, the people of Little Russia at one time suffered the most from raids by the Crimean Khanate troops. Hundreds of thousands of residents of Little Russia were kidnapped and sold into slavery in the slave markets of the Ottoman Empire. However, the historical memory of modern Ukrainian nationalists was short. They adopted the well-known principle “the enemy of my enemy is my friend,” and began to cooperate with the Crimean Tatar nationalist organizations against Russia and strengthen its influence on the Crimean peninsula. Since in the Crimea, the Ukrainian population does not have a “Western” Russophobic identity, the only force Kiev could rely on in Crimea to oppose Russia was the Crimean Tatar organizations. In order to attract the Crimean Tatars, the Ukrainian propaganda spread false rumors that if the Crimea was disconnected from Ukraine, the repressions against the Crimean Tatar population would begin again. Crimean-Tatar nationalists became Kiev’s only hope in Crimea, because there are simply no other cohesive groups that would strongly oppose reunification with the Russian Federation, under anti-Russian and Russophobic slogans. Crimean Tatars blamed Russia for their deportation, although in 1944 the Russian Federation state did not exist and could equally well have been made to any of the post-Soviet states that were part of the Soviet Union at that time. However, the topic of deportation of the Crimean Tatars in the context of the general Russophobic policy in Ukraine, has become particularly popular.

Turkey and the Crimean Tatar nationalism

Turkey also contributed to the further radicalization of the Crimean Tatar national movement. From the very first years of Ukrainian independence, from the beginning of 1990's, Turkey began to take an active interest in the fate of the Tatar population of Crimea and in fact positioned itself as the main defender of the rights and interests of the Crimean Tatars. In general, back in the 1991 year, after the collapse of the USSR, Turkey could demand to return the Crimea to its administration, however, did not begin to voice this right and limited itself only to the demand of protecting the rights and interests of the Crimean Tatars. But then, as the fact that the Crimea was in the composition of an absolutely ephemeral and weak Ukrainian state, was realized, Turkey intensified its presence in the life of the Crimean peninsula. The activities of Turkish public organizations that advocate Pan-Turkist ideas were extended to the Crimea. In addition, it was thanks to the efforts of Turkey that preachers of radical Islamic fundamentalism appeared in the Crimea. The spread of Pan-Turkic and radical fundamentalist ideas among the Crimean-Tatar youth was carried out by Turkish public organizations in order to strengthen the Crimean-Tatar national identity and assert anti-Russian sentiments in the Crimea. For more than twenty years, Turkey, with the tacit permission of Ukraine, has in fact formed the “fifth column” on the territory of the Crimean peninsula, attracting a large number of young people to the publicly controlled and religious organizations. Many of the Crimean Tatars, especially the young, did not hide their pro-Turkish sympathies, were oriented toward study and work in Turkey, that is, they were more likely to identify themselves with Turkey than with Ukraine. The development of relations with Turkey contributed to the activities of the Turkish diaspora of the Crimean Tatars, which still makes statements about the genocide of the Crimean Tatar population in the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union. Turkish special services intensified their activities in the Crimean Tatar environment in the 1990-s, and in the 2000-s. there was a real surge.

With the support of Turkey, Crimean Tatar banking structures were formed, business developed - that is, conditions were created for the subsequent material and organizational support of the positions of the Crimean Tatars in the political life of the peninsula. Many experts associate the emergence of radical Islam in the Crimea with Turkey.

For centuries, Islam remained one of the most important religions of Crimea. Currently, 15% of the inhabitants of the peninsula are Muslims, that is, about 300 thousands of people. These are the Crimean Tatars, Turks, Crimean Roma, Tatars, Azeris, Uzbeks, representatives of the Caucasian peoples living in the Crimea. From XV to XVIII centuries. Crimea played the role of the main center of Islamic religion and culture in the Northern Black Sea region. After the fall of the last Christian bastions of the Crimea - the Armenian Orthodox principality of Theodoro and the Genoese Kafa, Islam for three centuries became the dominant religion of Crimea. On the peninsula, Sunniism of the Hanifit mazhab spread, as well as Sufism. Mosques were built everywhere, madrasas were opened, and Islamic preachers trained in Crimea played an important role in spreading Islam among the peoples of the North Caucasus, with whom the Crimean Tatars had close ties. The number of Muslim clergy on the peninsula reached five thousand people. Dervish communities of Sufi orders spread in Ottoman Turkey operated in a number of Crimean cities. Later, after becoming part of the Russian Empire and the rapid change in the ethnic composition of the peninsula, Islam in Crimea began to gradually lose its position. This was facilitated by the growth of the Christian population on the peninsula, and the emigration of a significant part of the Crimean Tatars to Turkey, and later, in Soviet times, the deportation of the Crimean Tatars to Central Asia.

However, just the deportation made an important contribution to the preservation of religious traditions among the actual Crimean Tatar people. As the philosopher Ayder Bulatov notes, “Islamic identity has always played an important role in the ethnic mobilization of the Crimean Tatars, in the formation of their national identity and ethnic culture. Under the conditions of deportation, visiting the existing mosques by the Crimean Tatars was impossible. The language of prayer (Arabic) over time became available only to a few, and the Muslim tradition was preserved mainly in the family and household sphere. However, the sociocultural commitment of the Crimean Tatars to Islam during this period increased. This is not by chance, since “for peoples deprived of political independence, religion is the only expression of national unity” (quoted in: Bulatov A. Islam in the Crimea: from the tragic past to the problems of modernity // http://www.islamsng.com/ ukr / pastfuture / 3871).

After the collapse of the USSR and the return of the deported Tatars to Crimea, the era of a real “Islamic revival” on the Crimean peninsula began. The ideological vacuum inherent in all post-Soviet societies, the processes of strengthening the national identity of the Crimean Tatars, in which Islam has always played a decisive role, and socio-demographic and economic processes in the region have contributed to this. However, in modern Crimea, radical Islam spread by preachers from Turkey and the countries of the Arab East has spread. On the territory of the Crimean peninsula, followers of Wahhabism and Salafism, the organization Hizb ut-Tahrir, and a number of other radical religious-political organizations appeared. Ukrainian authorities and law enforcement agencies practically did not fight against the spread of radical fundamentalist ideas among the Crimean Tatar youth. The consequence of this permissive attitude was the emergence of real training camps and militant bases in the Crimean mountains, and then sending volunteers from among the young Crimean Tatars to participate in the hostilities in Iraq and Syria.

Russia, Turkey and the "Crimean Question" The political situation in Crimea became particularly tense after the majority of the inhabitants of Crimea decided to secede from Ukraine and reunite with the Russian Federation as a result of a national referendum. Actually, even before the referendum, repeated attempts were made to destabilize the situation in the Crimea by individual representatives of the Crimean Tatar nationalist movement set up by the Kiev regime. Then the leaders of the nationalist organizations of the Crimean Tatars took an openly anti-Russian position. We are talking about such figures in the Crimean Tatar politics as Mustafa Dzhemilev, Refat Chubarov and Lenur Islyamov. Mustafa Dzhemilev (born 1943) is the most famous Crimean Tatar politician. And the most determined attitude towards Russia. To some extent, this is due to the peculiarities of Mustafa Dzhemilev’s biography. Back in 1962, Mr. Mustafa Dzhemilev entered the Tashkent Institute of Irrigation and Land Reclamation Engineering for Agriculture. However, three years later, the young man was expelled from the university for his political views. Subsequently, Mustafa Dzhemilev was convicted seven times for his political activities, and was considered the most famous Crimean Tatar - political prisoner in the USSR. The return of the Crimean Tatars to the peninsula and the disintegration of the Soviet Union became the high point for Mustafa Dzhemilev. 1991 to 2013 he served as chairman of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people, in fact becoming the informal leader of the Crimean Tatars, receiving not only political, but also financial and economic dividends from their activities. After the start of Euromaidan in Ukraine, Dzhemilev began to actively support the opposition. He never hid his pro-Turkish sympathies, being the most ardent supporter of the denial of the Armenian Genocide in Ottoman Turkey. 20 August 2014, Jemilev was appointed by the President of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, Commissioner for the Affairs of the Crimean Tatar People.

It was the people of Dzhemilev, together with the militants of the Right Sector, who staged a series of sabotage against the power lines in the Kherson region of Ukraine, for which reason the power supply to the Crimea was disrupted. By the way, a typical example of genuine "care" of pro-Ukrainian leaders about the well-being of the people of Crimea - as a result of their criminal actions, the light was turned off not only in administrative buildings, but also in residential buildings, hospitals, schools, kindergartens. Disturbed and heating, water supply in the region. Naturally, among the radicals affected by the actions are the same Crimean Tatars living on the peninsula. Refat Chubarov (born 1957) is another Crimean Tatar politician who has been serving as chairman of the “Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People” since 2013. Refat Chubarov was born in Uzbekistan, where his father and mother were deported, but the “discrimination” in the Soviet Union did not prevent him from graduating from Moscow University - Historical and Archival Institute, and successfully work in his specialty until the collapse of the Soviet Union. Due to the anti-Russian position, 5 July 2014, Refat Chubarov was banned from entering the Republic of Crimea for a period of 5 years. Lenur Islyamov, the vice-president of the World Congress of Crimean Tatars and a well-known businessman in Crimea, also became one of the leaders of the action on the “blockade of Crimea”. Dzhemilev, Chubarov and Islyamov are the main initiators of the “blockade of the Crimea”, carried out by the forces of the Crimean Tatar nationalist groups and the Right Sector. Meanwhile, even many Ukrainian politicians who are hard to suspect of sympathizing with Russia see the “blockade of the Crimea” as an attempt to destabilize the situation on the border of the Kherson region. The UN representative Ivan Shimonovich, who declared that it would only lead to a further increase in mutual misunderstanding and mistrust between the Kiev authorities and Simferopol, also criticized the “blockade”.

Crimean Tatars - as part of Russia

In the actions of the Crimean Tatar activists, who clearly run counter to the official policies of the Kiev authorities, many analysts see the hand of Turkey. Moreover, almost simultaneously with the beginning of the blockade, well-known events took place in Syria - first, Turkey made a number of anti-Russian statements in the form of “warnings” about the inadmissibility of strikes on the territory inhabited by the Turkomans, and then shot down a Russian Su-24 aircraft. The response to Turkey’s actions was the whole range of sanctions measures taken by the Russian Federation and of an economic nature. Did not stay away from the events and the Crimea. In an interview with the Russia 24 channel, the head of the Crimea, Sergey Aksenov, said: “They (Turkey) have always tried using their intelligence (the Crimean Tatars) as a factor of influence. Many of the youth Crimean Tatars were trained in Turkey, including in religious institutions. This practice is now discontinued. I am personally confident that we no longer need the services of Turkish educational institutions and in general, in principle, Turkey’s help ”(quoted on: http://tass.ru/politika/2490868).

It should be noted that, in contrast to Ukraine, during the 23 of the year, it did not take real steps towards improving the situation of the Tatar population in Crimea, the Russian Federation, immediately after the Crimean people made the decision to join the Russian state, it also took care of the situation of the Crimean Tatars . In particular, President Vladimir Putin personally ordered to work out a set of measures aimed at the rehabilitation of the peoples deported from Crimea, including the Crimean Tatars. The head of the Crimea, Sergey Aksenov, claims that the majority of the Crimean Tatars have already adapted to the living conditions in the Russian Federation and support the current authorities of the republic and Russia as a whole. In Crimea, in particular, schools continue to operate in which children are taught in the Crimean Tatar language. The Crimean-Tatar language, along with the Russian and Ukrainian languages, is proclaimed the state language of the Republic of Crimea, which is part of the Crimean Federal District.
It is indicative that not only the Crimean Tatars in the territory of the Russian Federation, but also representatives of the Crimean Tatar communities of the same Turkey recognize that in reality the Tatar population in Crimea became better after the Peninsula became part of Russia. Thus, the adviser to the head of the Federation of Cultural Unions of the Crimean Tatars in Turkey, Yagyz Kyzylkaya, said that “interested structures with patrons in the West are trying to prove that pressure is exerted on the Tatars. However, in reality, right now, after the entry of Crimea into Russia, the Crimean Tatars began to receive rights that they did not have for the 23 years as part of Ukraine ”(quoted on: http://ria.ru/world/20150920/1267950339 .html). Also, Yagyz Kyzylkaya sharply criticized the behavior of pro-Ukrainian Crimean Tatar politicians who, by their actions in the form of the “blockade of the Crimea”, cause direct damage to their own Crimean Tatar people. Kyzylkaya described very negatively the idea of ​​Dzhemilev about the formation of the "Muslim battalion", stressing that one should not create analogues of the "Islamic state" (a terrorist organization prohibited in the Russian Federation) in the region. The secretary general of the Federation of Cultural Unions of the Crimean Tatars in Turkey, Sami Nogai, spoke in a similar vein. He said that in Turkey, the Crimean Tatar diaspora is divided between supporters of two points of view - some adhere to the Ukrainian and Western propaganda lines and believe that Russia annexed the Crimea and discriminated against the Crimean Tatar population. But, as Sami Nogai reported, he was personally in the Crimea and confirms that the referendum vote was free, and the inhabitants of the Crimea, including representatives of the Crimean Tatar people, made a choice in favor of joining the republic in the Russian Federation and with this not be considered.

However, after a sharp deterioration in relations between Russia and Turkey, it is possible that the leaders of the Turkish Crimean Tatar organizations may change their minds. In any case, since Crimea reunited with Russia, the problems of interethnic relations on the territory of the peninsula are now the problems of Russia. So far, we see that Russia is pursuing a correct and effective policy, not setting the Crimean Tatar masses against itself and really striving to protect the rights and interests of the population of the peninsula, regardless of its nationality. The limitation of foreign interference in the affairs of Crimea in this context is one of the most important tasks.
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  1. +29
    4 December 2015 06: 58
    They (Turkey) have always tried using their intelligence to use them (Crimean Tatars) as a factor of influence.


    Enough is enough.
    The Ottomans prosralized the empire - you won’t get all the stuffing back, you can't twitch.
    No "influencing factors" will help.

    P.S. What a cool scarf on Dzhemilev! Something he reminds me of ...
    1. +33
      4 December 2015 08: 10
      Quote: Mowgli

      What a cool scarf on Dzhemilev! Something he reminds me of ...


      So after all, he was in the USSR for rape, and in our prisons they quickly learn how to wear blue scarves.
      1. +6
        4 December 2015 09: 04
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        So after all, he was in the USSR for rape, and in our prisons they quickly learn how to wear blue scarves.

        Yes? And I thought it was about Berezovsky’s scarf.
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        2. +16
          4 December 2015 09: 49
          Yes? And I thought it was about Berezovsky’s scarf

          The same eggs are a side view. Both are Judas.
          However, the Crimean War caused the second wave of emigration of the Crimean Tatars to the territory of the Ottoman Empire. The fact is that after the outbreak of the Crimean War, many Crimean Tatars hoped that the Ottoman Empire, with the support of Great Britain and France, would ultimately be able to “recapture” Crimea from Russia. Therefore, a significant part of the Crimean Tatars collaborated with the enemy and after the end of the Crimean War, making sure that the peninsula would remain part of the Russian Empire, chose to leave its borders and go to Turkey.

          It turns out interestingly. It means to cooperate with the enemy of the Crimean Tatars, who actively helped the Nazis in the occupation of Crimea, this is a historical tradition. And those of them (Crimean Tatars) who, after the return of Crimea back to Russia, fled to / to Ukraine and actively cooperate with law-makers, pay the same tribute to old traditions that have deep historical roots.
          And the Turks in Crimea have nothing more to do. And they don’t need their business either - it’s high time for ourselves to develop all those industries that were given to foreigners, especially such as a weather vane in the wind.
          I have the honor.
          1. -45
            4 December 2015 11: 12
            a million Russians collaborated with the Germans. Zoya Kosmedemyansuyu (remember this?) Russian men caught and surrendered to the Gestapo ... Vlasov was also Russian by the way ...
            1. +8
              4 December 2015 11: 15
              Judging by the comment, are you not Russian?
              1. -11
                4 December 2015 11: 54
                and what's wrong with the comment? was 999 thousand in total, or was Vlasov a Crimean Tatar?
                1. +3
                  4 December 2015 12: 03
                  Everything is so, with love for the Motherland, something is somehow wrong with you.
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                3. +22
                  4 December 2015 13: 54
                  For bumbarash and others who agree with him:
                  According to the research of S. Drobyazko from 1 eastern volunteers who were in the service in the Wehrmacht, the SS and the police in 200-000. Russians by nationality were about 1941, Ukrainians - 1945, Latvians - 300, Estonians - 000, Belarusians - 250, representatives of the peoples of Central Asia - 000, Lithuanians - 150, etc. Separately, as a nationality (if you want a nationality), for some reason, Cossacks (Don, Kuban, etc.) are allocated - 000 people.
                  And now about how representatives of different nationalities of the Soviet Union fought against Hitler and his allies. I’ll just give everyone the well-known numbers on the number of Heroes of the Soviet Union participating in the Great Patriotic War:
                  Russians 8160
                  Ukrainians 2069
                  Belarusians 309
                  Tatars 161
                  Jews 108
                  There were many Heroes from among the representatives of other peoples of the multinational USSR, the same Chechens, Kazakhs, Uzbeks, for example. But among them there was only one representative of the Crimean Tatar people - this is the twice Hero of the Soviet Union, the famous fighter pilot (after the war - test) Amet-Khan Sultan. So he had a Crimean Tatar mother, and his father - a lak, a representative of one of the many mountain peoples of Dagestan.
                  I hate to write about it, because I always believed and still think that putting any stigma on an entire nation is unethical and besides it looks like calls for ethnic hatred, but the Crimean Tatars overwhelmingly actively supported the Wehrmacht during the occupation of Crimea - in word and deed. And only a small part of them fought with the Germans and their allies as part of partisan detachments, underground and at the front. This is a historical fact that you can’t get away from anywhere. Whereas representatives of other peoples, who were also (when justified, when not quite) considered traitors (another label) for the most part either honestly fought against the Nazis, or tried to distance themselves from this war, which they did not consider their own, but did not go as far as possible faithfully serve the enemy. When discussing my commentary on the historical tradition of the Crimean Tatars, I had in mind only that the representatives of this people always throughout their history searched for (and found) a common language with the enemy of their enemy - the Russian Empire, the USSR, now the Russian Federation. That, in principle, is quite understandable and expected: it was the Russians, who defeated the robber Crimean Khanate and established themselves in the ancient land of Tauris, deprived the Crimean Tatars of their usual business, dear to their hearts - robbery of the adjacent Slavic and not only lands, while causing great losses to the Crimean Tatars. This is not forgotten. But with your attack on the Russians, you not only take the conversation aside, but also translate it (I hope not intentionally) into the plane of interethnic relations. And this already smacks of inciting hatred on national soil. It is unacceptable. I think so.
                  I have the honor.
                  1. +3
                    4 December 2015 16: 24
                    I agree, the most oppressed people in the border areas are the Slavs. For this we hit twice, on the head and on the lid ...
                  2. 0
                    7 December 2015 16: 49
                    That is, those numerous attacks on the Crimean Tatars, do not you think that they are in the plane of interethnic relations? In my comments there is not a word about there that the Russians are so-and-so. I just said that even if there were a huge number of Russians who fought for enemies among the Russians, then what the hell do you demand that the colonized peoples be faithful to you? Why on earth should some people serve another people? What do you think if the Germans invaded, for example, from Central Asia, here they would not have killed the Russians? What, during the Wahhabi expansion in Chechnya, were the Russians safe? What, they killed little Russians at Gomsakhurdia in Georgia? But Georgians Russia actually saved. Everyone has a radical nationalism.
                    There have been many empires in history. In each of them there were many conquered peoples. This is an axiom. An empire cannot exist without colonization, otherwise it is not an empire. The Ottoman Empire colonized the South Slavic peoples, for example, the Bulgarians. Austria-Hungary - Czechs, Slavs, etc. Even royal Sweden is Finland. Genghisides are Russian principalities. England has India, etc.
                    As you know, the army of the Russian Empire conquered the lands of the Bulgarians from the Turks. The Bulgarians fought 100% against their colonialists. In all textbooks in Russia and Bulgaria, this is called the people's liberation struggle. I agree. And in Turkish textbooks, they are probably depicted as traitors)). And so, the Bulgarians, whom you liberated, also fought in alliance with Hitler. But you saved them from the Turks by dancing !!! But despite the notorious "Slavic brotherhood" they shit you regularly.
                    The Finns massively supported the Russian army in the war in Sweden. It is known that the soldiers and officers of the Finnish units in the Swedish army sided with the Russians. Probably the Swedes consider them traitors. Me not.
                    Do you really think that if Paul I, together with Napoleon, organized an Indian campaign, then the peoples of India would fight for the British?
                    The same with Czechs, Slovaks, etc.
                    Colonized peoples have the right to freedom.
                    By the way, Russians are also "traitors" in relation to the Mongols. )) Like a label for reign received in the Horde. And then they took, and treacherously attacked poor Mamaychik)) Yes, is it so? No. There was an opportunity, they threw off the yoke. They began to rule themselves. And that only Russians have the right to do this?
                    So you shouldn't "sew" me "incitement to hatred". I understand that these enkavedesh techniques are very effective, but for some reason they are used only when a person does not fall into the stream of more Russian chauvinism. The site is full of comments degrading the dignity of Ukrainians, Uzbeks, Tajiks, etc. But for some reason they are all considered patriotic ...
            2. +7
              4 December 2015 12: 39
              Quote: bumbarash
              Vlasov was also Russian by the way ..

              Percentage of traitors compare. More than half of the Crimean Tatars and Chechens supported the Germans.
              Quote: bumbarash
              there were 999 thousand in total

              Otkel firewood, not from the censor by chance? In terms of facts, refer to reliable sources. hi
              1. 0
                April 11 2016 21: 55
                at the Baltic states at least 90% supported the Germans and what?
            3. +11
              4 December 2015 20: 50
              The Russians, traitors such as Vlasov, Krasnova, Shkuro and others, were put on trial and hanged. Ukrainian "figures" are erecting executioners on a pedestal, like Bandera and Shukhevych, whose battalion burned Khatyn. The Mejlis "leaders" do not admit the guilt of their volunteers, presenting them as freedom fighters. This is the difference between the Russians and those who heroes the Nazis' accomplices.
            4. +2
              4 December 2015 22: 47
              How ... Remember Zoya Kosmodemyanskoy. But you would, dear, at least study the question a little. The Kosmodemyakskaya was killed not by the Gestapo, but by the Wehrmacht.
              And as far as I remember, there was a special order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief: not to take prisoners of service of that regiment. But the Gestapo was not mentioned in that order. T.ch. do not ring ....
              1. 0
                April 9 2016 20: 48
                come on ? Well, who passed it to the Wehrmacht? if the Wehrmacht is dearer to you than the Gestapo, then rejoice, yes.
            5. 0
              5 December 2015 18: 06
              Quote: bumbarash
              a million Russians collaborated with the Germans

              It’s good that it’s not a billion ...
        3. avt
          +5
          4 December 2015 10: 13
          Quote: Blondy
          Yes? And I thought it was about Berezovsky’s scarf.

          No. Nah. To do this, well, as a Turkish citizen, according to Turkish tradition, a cord will be sent to him ..... you can of course also be blue. In general, pedrils spoiled this color ... for a second, Uncle Vasya's berets.
      2. +4
        4 December 2015 10: 07
        So, he left his old wife in Crimea. Why did she need him ?!
      3. +2
        4 December 2015 11: 48
        Not really, I think this is a pigeon;
        idea of ​​the subject of the men's toilet! But in the area of ​​these
        : machek: they accustom to the culture the blue idea that he
        note chose voluntarily. As they say BLUE FLAG
        into his hands, and a fair wind, he was in every direction. Let him dare
        1. 0
          4 December 2015 17: 31
          Quote: Vikings
          BLUE FLAG

          Is this a hint of flags with a circle of stars? laughing
      4. 0
        4 December 2015 12: 29
        fagot he is unfinished .......
    2. +11
      4 December 2015 08: 35
      Yes, "The Ottomans fucked up the empire ...", only Crimea was and now is OURS!
      And our he, if you go into history, not from the 18th century, but much earlier. Crimea was the land of the Scythians, when no one even knew the word Turkey!
      So, Russia has much more rights to the Crimea, because we are direct descendants of the Scythians!
      Everything is back to square one ...
      1. +1
        4 December 2015 09: 11
        I remember very vaguely that when the USSR collapsed, there was some unrest in the Crimea, either the Meskhetian Turks, or the Crimean Tatars, they randomly carried out the seizure of the land, and this all stopped. Ukraine seemed to take no steps, looked not these captures.
        Maybe something was wrong. Correct if anyone is in the know.
        1. +2
          4 December 2015 10: 48
          Yes, it was. In the spring of 1991 he traveled to Sevastopol. While riding the bus from Simferopol saw many buildings of these Meskhetian Turks. And they started traveling earlier, under Gorbachev from the republics of Central Asia. True, at that time the USSR also did not have time to deal with them. There were too many hot spots. Well, when Crimea remained in Ukraine, it also did not aggravate relations with the Tatars and looked at self-capture through fingers.
      2. -15
        4 December 2015 12: 30
        You will not understand. Either you are descendants of the Varangians, or the Scythians. No one remembers (or maybe does not know) the words: Krivichi, Slovenia, Vyatichi, Northerners. The Scythians disappeared into history already in the XNUMXth century. And the Russian nationality as a result of the merger of the East Slavic tribes was formed around the XNUMXth century. The language of the Scythians belonged to the Iranian group, and Russian to the Slavic group. Where is the connection with the Scythians? When the Scythians existed, no one knew such a word as "Russian" either.
        1. +10
          4 December 2015 12: 57
          Quote: bumbarash
          You are the descendants of the Varangians, then the Scythians

          The Vikings in Russia were called the warriors of war. Like the Normans Vikings. In Arabian sources, the Black Sea is for some reason called Russian, and Byzantine and Greek historians call the army of Prince Oleg Scythians.
          Quote: bumbarash
          The Scythian language belonged to the Iranian group, and Russian to the Slavic group.

          Do you know what language the Scythians spoke? Well then, you defend the doctoral with a bang! fellow
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        3. +5
          4 December 2015 13: 26
          You have a natural "porridge" in your head, prepared in a kitchen like "Censor.ua". Does "blood purity" haunt you? I think you made a mistake with the "button". And what about the ancestors - do you know why ANYONE has never succeeded in enslaving the Slavs and "razderibanit" the state? Because, we remember our ancestors, their victories and defeats, we accept them as they were. And it is precisely this memory that does not give way to "democratizers". Unlike you - JUDAS do not remember kinship. Will you see what kind of land you spoil? As in "Sunstroke" - do it yourself.
        4. +3
          4 December 2015 13: 37
          Quote: bumbarash
          You will not understand. Either you are descendants of the Varangians, or the Scythians. No one remembers (or maybe does not know) the words: Krivichi, Slovenia, Vyatichi, Northerners. The Scythians disappeared into history already in the XNUMXth century. And the Russian nationality as a result of the merger of the East Slavic tribes was formed around the XNUMXth century. The language of the Scythians belonged to the Iranian group, and Russian to the Slavic group. Where is the connection with the Scythians? When the Scythians existed, no one knew such a word as "Russian" either.

          and in the 19th century did anyone know the word Uzbekistan? You stink here .. and hell himself knows who is
          1. 0
            April 9 2016 20: 53
            ABOUT THE STATE HERE NOBODY SPEAKS. But the Uzbeks were in the 19th century. Even earlier, Russian princes went to bow to Khan Uzbek. They asked for a shortcut to reign. Well ... they kissed.
        5. +4
          4 December 2015 16: 35
          Quote: bumbarash
          You will not understand. Either you are descendants of the Varangians, or the Scythians. No one remembers (or maybe does not know) the words: Krivichi, Slovenia, Vyatichi, Northerners. The Scythians disappeared into history already in the XNUMXth century. And the Russian nationality as a result of the merger of the East Slavic tribes was formed around the XNUMXth century. The language of the Scythians belonged to the Iranian group, and Russian to the Slavic group. Where is the connection with the Scythians? When the Scythians existed, no one knew such a word as "Russian" either.

          Believe it or not, such a word as an Uzbek, a Turk, a Tatar also did not exist.
          1. 0
            April 9 2016 20: 54
            I believe. But I did not hear that the Uzbeks, Tatars ranked themselves as descendants of the Scythians))
        6. +1
          4 December 2015 16: 58
          Quote: bumbarash
          The Scythian language belonged to the Iranian group, and Russian to the Slavic group.

          Academician B.A. Rybakov, in my opinion, in his work "Herodotov Scythia" mentions that the toponyms "Don", "Dniester", "Danube" have rather Iranian roots "day" / typical for the Iranian language /. There are currently no Scythians, but the Slavs = in many. So here you are, know-it-all ...
          1. 0
            April 9 2016 20: 55
            and what ... where is the kinship between the Scythians and the Slavs?
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        7. -3
          5 December 2015 06: 12
          One poet for the rhyme has inserted "yes, we are Scythians", and now you are afraid to explain that we are not Scythians. Well, really, you have to separate fiction from reality.
          1. 0
            5 December 2015 10: 45
            Quote: Flanke
            One poet for the rhyme has inserted "yes, we are Scythians", and now you are afraid to explain that we are not Scythians. Well, really, you have to separate fiction from reality.

            not the word, and many historians of the 18-19th centuries did not know how to name whom, to whom what nationality to attach, so it turned out that
            Quote: Flanke
            One poet for the rhyme has inserted "yes, we are Scythians", and now you are afraid to explain that we are not Scythians. Well, really, you have to separate fiction from reality.
      3. +5
        4 December 2015 12: 42
        Quote: Skif83
        Crimea was the land of the Scythians, when no one even knew the word Turkey!

        Kerch (Korchev) was Russian. Sudak (Surozh) is the same. But Crimean Tatars do not remember this. Yes, and the Russians, too, unfortunately. request
      4. 0
        4 December 2015 18: 35
        Quote: Skif83
        Yes, "The Ottomans fucked up the empire ...", only Crimea was and now is OURS!
        And our he, if you go into history, not from the 18th century, but much earlier. Crimea was the land of the Scythians, when no one even knew the word Turkey!
        So, Russia has much more rights to the Crimea, because we are direct descendants of the Scythians!
        Everything is back to square one ...

        Well, the idea of ​​the Scythians generally leads to the idea that they are we, only with a changed consciousness, I don’t draw an equal sign between us and them, but I emphasize that no one left anywhere and no one there he didn’t come, but simply because in a certain period of turmoil and a change of dynasty, the central government moved away, or rather, the new government could not take up the outskirts of the state, and from here many others tried to subjugate them, for example, Islam, another law (in the absence of legislation, as we perceive the law, this religion) came to the territory of the northern Black Sea region in the 17th century, the same situation in the North Caucasus, this is just the period of turmoil and the change of dynasty in Moscow, the same situation, only with Catholicism and in the eastern europé, in general, the situation is akin to the collapse of the USSR, and here Ukraine is just between the three fires, where the Ottoman Empire, from the west, the catalytic "cytilisophane" ge.yropa, and from the north and east the Orthodox, who and were in turmoil! (discard this card, it was created just in order to bring into turmoil!), the fact that in the south this part converted to Islam, and became citizens of the Ottoman Empire (the Turks were not mentioned at that time, since the separation according to nationalities begins only at the end 17 at the beginning of the 19th century, from here all Pan-Turkism has no foundation, and indeed the original Turk was not nationality, but defined as Turkic-speaking tribes), the western part of eastern Europe succumbed to Catholicism, the east remained Orthodox, and the fact that between it became something like Uniate ...
        By the way, with such an approach as a type to the Crimean Tatars, I don’t want to offend anyone, insult, only as an analogy, we can call the Crimean Ukrainians “Crimean Ukrainians”, this is purely for analogy and example ...
        this implies that there is no connection between the Crimean Tatars and those Turks that are being bullied now, just as the Turks now have no connection whatsoever with the Ottoman or especially the Ataman Empire. but the reason may be just that we have ONE ancestor, and forgiveness does not always follow forgiveness, since driving yourself into a betrayal, you can one day be one when you turn away and those for whom you betrayed, because of faith there will be no more from them, but in general you will be a second-rate person, and there will be no faith left from those whom you betrayed ... and FATHER ONE, call him at least ALLAH, even if you are a yacht, but only the FATHER’s children are human and live according to commandments, and others not ...
        Our Father in heaven! Hallowed be thy name; Thy kingdom come; Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven;
    3. +2
      4 December 2015 10: 22
      Well, we consider the Straits a zone of our national preferences, so the question of Constantinople remains open ...
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    5. 0
      4 December 2015 13: 19
      Representatives of the gang under the nickname "LGBT".
    6. 0
      11 December 2018 12: 13
      Yeah, an Italian $ 4000 assault rifle. He is from a Tatar riding a AZLK-2140 worth 10000 rubles, where did he come from? Turkish rain skidded?
      A truck of weapons and explosives exported by the military and the FSB from mosques, in particular in Vilino and Sudak. Similar in the Crimean caves are clearly not from the Poles and Ukrainians.
      Ilya does not mention the role that Tatar illegal and unrecognized organizations played during the war in the PMR, the Both Chechen Companies, the conflict in the NKR, the 2008 conflict in Georgia, the color revolutions in Africa. Ukro politician and former intelligence officer of the KChF Razumovsky back in 2014. talked about the role of Medzhis, Kurultay, Alalet, during the conflicts in Libya and Syria, Iraq. Many of the Crimean Tatars fled to the mainland precisely because of this. I myself heard from some of the residents that the "Russians" bring them all their black and illegal affairs. Some even put sandbags on their windows.
  2. +48
    4 December 2015 07: 15
    Well minus the author. If he mentioned deportation, then it was necessary to mention their activities in more detail, and not to blame everything on Stalin. Facts indicate that almost the entire Crimean Tatar population of draft age came out on the side of fascist Germany. As the front approached Crimea, the vast majority of the population began to switch sides to the enemy. Thousands of examples of the atrocities of Crimean Tatars can be given. And sometimes even the Germans and Italians who captured Crimea were forced to slow down their exorbitant, even for the Nazis, cruelty. Crimeans captured and burned alive Soviet paratroopers, partisans. On June 1, 1943, a partisan underground was operating in the Crimea, consisting of 262 people, including six Crimean Tatars. Stalin saved them from righteous popular anger, from pogroms. Just imagine: during the German occupation, the Tatar police units collected more than 50 thousand Russian residents of Crimea for theft to Germany! Plus the inhuman atrocities that they committed in relation to their neighbors. What would the Crimean war veterans returning from Berlin do in 1945 — fathers, brothers and sons torn to pieces by them, given into slavery of Soviet citizens ?! From the Crimean Tatars there would be nothing left.
    1. +13
      4 December 2015 07: 40
      Want to add. For those who are interested in history, there is (including on the net) an interesting book: Igor Vasilyevich Pykhalov "Why did Stalin evict peoples?" I recommend.
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      2. +1
        4 December 2015 18: 23
        As for the books - maybe a little off-topic - I also recommend V. Chivilikhin Roman-essay "Memory", and for Batu, banderlog for you, and for Katyn and much more.
    2. +10
      4 December 2015 07: 40
      Yes, the Soviet government and Stalin actually saved them by deporting the Crimean Tatars, the front-line soldiers would simply outweigh these young rats ... am
    3. +2
      4 December 2015 08: 09
      Quote: kuz363
      Facts indicate that almost the entire Crimean Tatar population of draft age came out on the side of fascist Germany.

      That's right, only tens of thousands of Crimean Tatars fought in the Red Army. The underground family, who had been fighting the Nazis throughout the war, was sent to Uzbekistan together with him, the Hero of the Soviet Union returns home, and from home he is sent to Uzbekistan: these are the bends of deportation. Later, they turned a blind eye to the return of family members who fought on the side of the USSR, in whose families there were no obvious traitors. But there were families in which both of these were enough. In any case: it was one thing to deport for the cause, and quite another for no fault of the guilty, only on a national basis.
      So it’s not so simple here - black and white and nothing more.
      1. +5
        4 December 2015 08: 19
        Of course, it was difficult to find a measure of responsibility for each Tatar family. Supported by the Germans and to what extent. But it was time of war, it was difficult to find prosecutors, judges and lawyers, so they decided to all under one child. Do you know that during the defense of Berlin the Tatar division fought 10 thousand people to the end? And Stalin actually saved the Tatars from death, sending them to warm Central Asia, and not to Kolyma or Magadan. Moreover, those who were evicted for the construction of their own houses on the ground were given a loan at 1% per annum! Now you can get on such conditions?
        1. +11
          4 December 2015 08: 44
          One thing I don’t understand, why didn’t Stalin evict all Western Ukrainians to Siberia and the Far East? In general, he would disband the Ukrainian SSR into an autonomous republic or distribute territories in the RSFSR and the BSSR. And, the Ukrainian SSR, created anew, for example, on the lands of New Russia (the republic was originally when the USSR was created), how many problems would have been avoided now. Oh!
          1. +2
            4 December 2015 09: 34
            Wise remark
          2. 0
            4 December 2015 09: 34
            Wise remark
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          4. +5
            4 December 2015 13: 30
            The answer is simple - remember the partisan. The Germans executed them virtually without trial or investigation. The guys Beria and Abakumov knew how to work. During interrogations, the "forest brothers" simply handed over each other with giblets. Therefore, they were tried, given short terms, after which they returned, studied, worked and, like scum, did their disgusting business. It was necessary at once - in a spray. And that's all. Now in Ukraine there would be much fewer followers of Banderas, Shukhevychs, etc.
            1. +2
              4 December 2015 14: 33
              It was necessary immediately - to spray. And that’s it. Now in Ukraine there would be much fewer followers of Bandera, Shukhevych, etc.
              There is such an opinion, and not only mine. That, in this situation, there would be no Ukrainians left (joke).
          5. 0
            5 December 2015 00: 32
            he had plans, it seemed, to deport Western Ukrainians. but he did not manage to realize them ......
      2. +1
        4 December 2015 08: 51
        ... so in life there is always more gray than white or black ...
      3. 0
        April 9 2016 21: 03
        and that the Balts were 100% on the side of the USSR in the war?
    4. -9
      4 December 2015 12: 54
      "You can give thousands of examples of the atrocities of the Crimean Tatars ..." Yes, you can, of course, please provide .. The list can be in a personal or here in the tape. Thanks.
      5 million 269 thousand people were stolen from the USSR to Germany. It turns out that the remaining 5 million 219 thousand. 513 collected other national police units for hijacking: Ukrainian, Belarusian and Russian police.
      About the deportation. Both Chechens and Meskhetian Turks were evicted, and it seems the Ingush. Can you explain the reasons for their deportation?
      1. +3
        4 December 2015 13: 17
        Quote: bumbarash
        Yes, of course you can, please provide .. The list can be in PM or here in the tape. Thank.

        In Chechens - http://uznai-pravdu.ru/viewtopic.php?t=505
        In the Crimean Tatars - http://www.sudak.pro/deportaciya-krymskix-tatar/
        1. 0
          April 9 2016 21: 06
          there are 3 atrocities described .. another 997 at least need up to a thousand (or more to thousands)
    5. 0
      April 11 2016 22: 01
      yes to hell there!
      in the 90s in Chechnya they cut it so mama don’t cry! and what now? you fear grandmothers buy themselves off from them.
  3. +6
    4 December 2015 07: 28
    Ukraine actively played along with Turkey, which relies on the Crimean Tatars in Crimea (when it was still under Ukraine). The Ukrainian authorities had the idea of ​​fixing - to get rid of Russians of origin, living on the peninsula, turning a blind eye to the actions of nationalists from the Crimean Tatars and representatives of the Turkish secret services. And what will happen next is not important. As a result, they played enough to the point that the population made its choice.
  4. +5
    4 December 2015 07: 35
    Typical Crimean Tatar
  5. +1
    4 December 2015 07: 42
    Yours remains yours only as long as
    while you are able to defend your right to own it.
    So while Russia will be strong,
    all these mongrels will only be yapping at us.
    And like America by the fence, they will come running to feed us.
    1. -4
      4 December 2015 09: 17
      America cannot be fought.
      Then we will remain face to face with China. We have a common border with them. There are many of them and they are strong.
      In the near future - the return of Ukraine and the re-education of its citizens.
      1. +2
        4 December 2015 10: 03
        In addition to dig up five nuclear weapons on the border with China, and you can be friends.
  6. +1
    4 December 2015 08: 26
    Nose picking on these topics is futile. Many peoples live here. And while they don’t get into my house with their opinions, let them live.
  7. +7
    4 December 2015 08: 26
    Looking at our history, one wonders how much of its territory has been squandered. But how many lives were put in battle to create a country. Khrushchev and Yeltsin will be forgotten, and Putin will remain in memory at least because he returned the Crimea. I hope that there will be other significant achievements.
  8. +5
    4 December 2015 08: 31
    In his commentary, the respected Vladimir quite correctly described the role of the Crimean Tatars during the Great Patriotic War. History cannot be hidden, so I think the author of the article should have written more carefully. As a specialist who created the defense systems of our country, including in the Crimea, I was pleased on the radar screens installed on one of the Crimean mountains over the entire Black Sea and the Turkish coast. Then nothing could escape the eye of the operator. I have the honor.
  9. +1
    4 December 2015 08: 39
    However, the deportation affected the heroes of the Great Patriotic War, as well as members of their families. As a result of the deportation, which was universal, the Soviet Union acquired another negatively-minded nation. ... Here they messed up ... when the deportation was completed .. It was necessary to figure out who the enemy is and who is not .. Thus, to split ... And so the deportation .. united both the right and the guilty ..
    Thank you, Ilya
  10. +1
    4 December 2015 09: 04
    Dzhemilev and co. a professional professional wrestlers with rezhYmmom))))
  11. +2
    4 December 2015 09: 12
    And why, under the USSR, the question could not be about the "Crimean question" ?!
  12. +8
    4 December 2015 09: 21
    The Crimean Tatar, in isolation from his ethnic group, is quite a negotiable type. This is when more than 3 of them gather - then they buzz. The conclusion is clear. Stalin was right. It was only necessary to evict and resettle in small groups. That’s the thing.
  13. +5
    4 December 2015 09: 52
    Thanks for the historical review. I will present a certificate of Tatar military units in the service of the Germans ...

    "On May 9, 1945, the military-political leadership of Nazi Germany signed an act of unconditional surrender, according to one of the points of which its armed forces were to immediately lay down their arms. This also applied to those foreign volunteer formations that were still in the ranks of the Wehrmacht, troops Thus, the day of the German surrender is at the same time the last day of the history of the Crimean Tatar volunteer formations. A general idea of ​​the dynamics of their numbers by periods is given in the table below:


    Type of volunteer formation Number (average) Period for which the number is indicated
    "Unorganized" self-defense, or "militia" 4000-5000 people November / December 1941 - summer 1942
    "Organized" self-defense of about 2000 people January 1942 - May / June 1944
    "Volunteer helpers", or "Khivi", as part of the Wehrmacht units about 9000 people December 1941 / January 1942 - May 1945
    "Auxiliary order police" individual service of about 4000 people summer 1942 - May / June 1944
    Type of volunteer formation Number (average) Period for which the number is indicated
    Battalions of the "auxiliary police of order" about 3000 people summer 1942 - May / June 1944
    Tatar Mountain Jaeger Brigade of the SS troops 2421 people July-December 1944
    Battle group "Crimea" of the Eastern Turkic formation of the SS troops, about 2500 people December 1944 - May 1945
    Total:
    15 000 — 20 000 people
    November 1941 — May 1945

    At the time of Germany's surrender, about 3500 Crimean Tatars were serving in its armed forces. Most of them were in the ranks of the "Crimea" combat group, and a few more were in the Wehrmacht units, where they had the status of "volunteer assistants." After the war, their fate was unenviable: according to the Yalta agreement between the Western allies and the USSR (February 1945), all of them were subject to forced return to their homeland. This is what happened to most of them. In the summer of 1945, almost all of the Crimean Tatar volunteers were handed over to Stalin, and only a small part of them managed to escape. Thanks to Turkey's intervention, they were left in Europe. Later, many of them moved to this country. "

    Whoever is interested and who wants to get acquainted in more detail, I give the address http: //russoedvizhenie.rf/index.php/history/52-articles/17138-2013-08-06-06-15-0
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    1. -8
      4 December 2015 11: 14
      and how many served in the Red Army?
  14. +4
    4 December 2015 10: 14
    I am opposed to any national autonomy. As our history has shown, this only leads to interethnic tensions. The Leninist idea collapsed, the Stalinist one showed its viability. There should be edges and areas. If the population living in them wants to have national schools, cultural centers, to use their own language, you need to meet and apply, leaving the state language and culture a priority. We need a state "melting pot", in which a single community is born, such as the "Russians" or as it was the "Soviet people". The Soviet government has already turned Ukraine into a showcase of economic, cultural and national achievements. How has it all turned out now?
    1. 0
      April 11 2016 22: 05
      absolute right imperial thinking.
      conquered peoples do not have the right to independence.
      the Yakuts wanted to live like Arabs at the expense of the bowels of the land of their ancestors. Fuck them!
  15. +1
    4 December 2015 10: 18
    They beat the Turk, we beat and we will beat. Until then, at last, they do not learn how to do nasty things to Russia.
  16. +2
    4 December 2015 10: 53
    Stalin in vain saved the Crimean Tatars from revenge, in vain he allowed the creation of the state of Israel and much more. Some kind of not particularly "bloody tyrant" turns out. Although our liberalistic hangouts won't be convinced anyway.
  17. 0
    4 December 2015 12: 04
    Quote: Skif83
    Yes, "The Ottomans fucked up the empire ...", only Crimea was and now is OURS!
    And our he, if you go into history, not from the 18th century, but much earlier. Crimea was the land of the Scythians, when no one even knew the word Turkey!
    So, Russia has much more rights to the Crimea, because we are direct descendants of the Scythians!
    Everything is back to square one ...

    There is a theory about "Black Sea Russia" Ie Russia began not from the north, but from the south and long before Rurik.
  18. +2
    4 December 2015 13: 20
    Bachili och, schu kupulya - izhte, want to rule!
    “Coming to the Maidan in 2013, the Ukrainians wanted to get to Europe, and not high salaries and pensions, says President Petro Poroshenko. This conclusion can be drawn from the statement of the head of the Ukrainian state, the REGNUM correspondent reports.
    Poroshenko: You wanted Europe, not high salaries and pensions.
    “When it became known that there would be no association agreement with the EU, the next day, millions of people took to the streets. They demanded no increase in salaries or pensions, no reduction in taxes or any social benefits. People demanded Europe, ”said Poroshenko.
    At the same time, he stressed that he had fulfilled the will of the people - he signed an association agreement after his election to the presidency. And in the future, as the head of Ukraine assured, there will be no delays in European integration, in particular, Moscow will not be able to "influence this. Http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2026686.html
  19. +2
    4 December 2015 13: 51
    As a result of the deportation, which was universal, the Soviet Union acquired another negatively-minded nation ...


    You still won’t believe it, but Grandfather Stalin was able to cure any negative.

    Appreciate passionarity:

    "I still fall on that
    On that one civil
    And commissioners in dusty helmets
    Silently bow over me ... "©

    But, in fact, the father of the author of these lines was repressed and shot.

    No wonder the "evil commies" had a goal: "education of a new man", with a supranational consciousness. And, if the ideological enemy - Nikita the maize, would not kick the dead lion in public and decompose the Country from within, then I have no doubt - everything would have worked out from time to time.

    In S_SH_P - they also conjure over this problem, proclaiming "the great cauldron
    nations "in which a purely" American nation "was allegedly melted.

    However, judging by how blacks are briskly shot there, the project clearly did not work out.
  20. 0
    4 December 2015 14: 43
    Why not go further.
    Turkey and the Black Sea coast (and not only) once belonged to Rome.
    Or even further - Athens.
    Ankara does not want to join Greece?
  21. +1
    4 December 2015 16: 42
    Quote: Blondy
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    So after all, he was in the USSR for rape, and in our prisons they quickly learn how to wear blue scarves.

    Yes? And I thought it was about Berezovsky’s scarf.

    It does not interfere.
  22. 0
    5 December 2015 08: 25
    Quote: bumbarash
    When the Scythians existed, no one knew such a word as "Russian" either.

    did you know Tartaria?
  23. +1
    5 December 2015 16: 08
    Of course, Ankara does not want to join Greece. Does Russia want to Ukraine?

    Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece is a myth. And Byzantium is reality. Turkey is the successor to Byzantium. Coat of arms and flag of the Byzantine. There was no conquest of Byzantium by the Turks. And there was the Civil War, in which the Eastern Themes-provinces defeated.

    In the Crimea. If he is not Russian, then under Catherine’s agreement, Turkish is unequivocal.

    Before "Great Peter", Russia and Turkey are one whole. Our mat is normal Turkish.

    Tatars, an artificial ethnos. Perun is the supreme deity of the Slavs. Tarh is his son, Tara is the daughter. Together-TARKHTARIYA. And the Turkic speakers who are now called Tatars are the Bulgars, that is, the Volgars.
    1. 0
      6 December 2015 14: 11
      What has Catherine's agreement to do with it? The Russian Federation is the right to be the successor of the USSR, but the USSR was not the right to be the successor of the Russian Empire. All contracts, acts, etc. signed "anew" with the USSR.
  24. 0
    11 December 2018 11: 58
    Specific article.