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The artillerymen of the BBO delivered the batch of the ACS “Peony”

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The artillerymen of the Eastern District received the armament of the Peony self-propelled guns, reports RIA News message of the representative of the TSO Alexander Gordeev.




“The artillery units of the Eastern Military District received for service a batch of 203-millimeter self-propelled artillery mounts" Peony "... To date, the Pion self-propelled guns are considered the most powerful self-propelled artillery mounts in the world, ”the officer said.

“The main armament of the SAV Pion is an 203-millimeter cannon, having a mass of more than 14 tons. It is located in the stern of the installation. The gun is equipped with a semi-automatic hydraulic loading system, which allows this process to be performed at any angles of elevation of the barrel, ”he added.

Gordeev also noted that "in the development of the chassis of the" Peony "components and assemblies were used tank T-80. " The installation has an individual torsion bar suspension.
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  1. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 3 December 2015 20: 05 New
    33
    beauty ..... only it bothers me that they are being taken off conservation from a campaign .... because if my memory serves me right, they won’t .....
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 3 December 2015 20: 08 New
      21
      The situation is actually very, very dangerously close to war. Therefore, all that is in use is a weapon.
      And in the east, where the DPRK and China are still quiet and old systems will descend there.
      I think so.
      1. fox21h
        fox21h 3 December 2015 20: 12 New
        +5
        A bit of humor is off topic
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 3 December 2015 20: 55 New
          40
          ... A little off topic. I live in the Kuban, but I was born and spent most of my life in Smolensk, a beautiful ancient city on the banks of the Dnieper. April 10, 2011 was in a small homeland, near the crash site on Pokrovka .. Here in Poland they destroy monuments to our soldiers, and why our government does not raise the question of closing the Polish part of the memorial in Katyn, no one goes there except for the staff. And let no conscience torment (they say we don’t fight with monuments) .. And WHAT IS THE MEMORY FOR OWNERS? prisoners of war in Poland in the 20s? ... I am generally amazed at the inconsistency of our ruling elite, although this is a separate conversation.
          Quote: fox21h
          A bit of humor is off topic
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 3 December 2015 21: 22 New
            +4
            Quote: dmi.pris
            . I live in the Kuban


            be Higher ... even though you are not a root cubanoid like me .. nevertheless .. You are Russian ...
            1. dmi.pris
              dmi.pris 3 December 2015 21: 44 New
              +6
              Yes, well, let's forgive all the villains and idiots who hurt us, Russians (and other people of other nationalities living in OUR COUNTRY ..) in word or deed ... BUT ... In this world (unfortunately unjust), politicians understand only a position of strength, not a slurred muttering about universal humanity (they say people are there too) ...
              Quote: vorobey
              Quote: dmi.pris
              . I live in the Kuban


              be Higher ... even though you are not a root cubanoid like me .. nevertheless .. You are Russian ...
              1. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ 4 December 2015 11: 12 New
                0
                It turns out she has a gas turbine engine, as on the T-80.
                In general, beauty certainly works up to 40 km.
            2. Dryuya2
              Dryuya2 3 December 2015 21: 48 New
              19
              to set the mood good
              Захарченко - петю "натянул" laughing
          2. glavnykarapuz
            glavnykarapuz 3 December 2015 23: 39 New
            -3
            Quote: dmi.pris
            ... A little off topic. I live in the Kuban, but I was born and spent most of my life in Smolensk, a beautiful ancient city on the banks of the Dnieper. April 10, 2011 was in a small homeland, near the crash site on Pokrovka .. Here in Poland they destroy monuments to our soldiers, and why our government does not raise the question of closing the Polish part of the memorial in Katyn, no one goes there except for the staff. And let no conscience torment (they say we don’t fight with monuments) .. And WHAT IS THE MEMORY FOR OWNERS? prisoners of war in Poland in the 20s? ... I am generally amazed at the inconsistency of our ruling elite, although this is a separate conversation.
            Quote: fox21h
            A bit of humor is off topic

            For me, you dmi.pris, явно не в тему. Зачем уподобляться полякам и прочим "Щирым" фашистам? Могила она и есть могила - на одного или братская. Это всё равно что с памятниками бороться, только ещё ниже.
            Про действия "верхушки" обсуждать не хочется, но простым людям хоть есть память(если убрать всю шелуху политическую-не будем же мы искренние заблуждения "Димона-спящего" и иже с ним всерьёз рассматривать?). Тем более здравомыслящим людям понятно, что это преступление совершили немецкие фашисты.
            А ваши "идеи", dmi.pris , считаю таки недостойными для нормальных людей.Так и хочется спросить вас и после сказать- Чего же вам эти мёртвые то сделали? лежат в земле и ладно. Нам бы своих всех своих найти и похоронить достойно, а вы х...й маетесь. Может "не дозрели" ещё до таких мыслей, а может видение мира у вас такое- что ж ваше право.
          3. Vanya Ivanov
            Vanya Ivanov 4 December 2015 10: 01 New
            +1
            then you should know the place where the plane crashed. These drunken people crashed not far from residential high-rise buildings. They could have killed a bunch of our people.
      2. avt
        avt 3 December 2015 21: 50 New
        +8
        Quote: mirag2
        .Because weapons are all that are used.

        Moreover, sharpened by firing shells with a nuclear charge.
      3. edge
        edge 4 December 2015 09: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: mirag2
        The situation is actually very, very dangerously close to war.

        and old fighters are withdrawn from the stock .....
      4. alex86
        alex86 4 December 2015 21: 33 New
        0
        Information about Peonies in the BBO was a year ago, and I wrote then that we are trying to compensate for the complete superiority of China in conventional forms with tactical nuclear weapons. Recent information on Tulips is evidence of this.
        Once again: just in case, we are preparing for a tactical nuclear war.
    2. shooter18
      shooter18 3 December 2015 20: 12 New
      +7
      Flowers)) peony tulip acacia ... lepota))
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 3 December 2015 21: 22 New
        +4
        Quote: shooter18
        peony tulip acacia ... lepota))


        because gladiolus .. laughing
      2. Lexa-149
        Lexa-149 4 December 2015 02: 03 New
        0
        В вашем "букете" не хватает "Гвоздик", "Васильков" и "Хризантем"! wink
      3. edge
        edge 4 December 2015 09: 11 New
        0
        Quote: shooter18
        Flowers)) peony tulip acacia ... lepota))

        + peacemaker bouquet
    3. Patriot2012
      Patriot2012 3 December 2015 20: 25 New
      +2
      removed from the tongue, 100%
    4. cniza
      cniza 3 December 2015 20: 38 New
      +6
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      beauty ..... only it bothers me that they are being taken off conservation from a campaign .... because if my memory serves me right, they won’t .....



      Still work, albeit at an age.
      1. Throw
        Throw 3 December 2015 20: 55 New
        +5
        Китайцам больше "Грады" нравятся bully
        1. edge
          edge 4 December 2015 09: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: Lance
          Китайцам больше "Грады" нравятся

          Yeah, during the conflict on Damansky they completely demolished the Chinese division, hence the reverence ....
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 4 December 2015 09: 44 New
          +1
          In China, a similar gun with a caliber of 203 mm in 1994 was adopted.
    5. The comment was deleted.
    6. biznaw
      biznaw 3 December 2015 21: 30 New
      +5
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      beauty ..... only it bothers me that they are being taken off conservation from a campaign .... because if my memory serves me right, they won’t .....

      You are absolutely right. Do not produce and withdrawn from service even with the Union. Self-propelled guns modernized and put into service under the name Malka. Range with active rocket projectile 90 (one-shot said up to 150) km
      1. Moore
        Moore 4 December 2015 04: 58 New
        0
        Active-rocket projectile firing range - 47,5 km.
        Существует мнение, что в данной ситуации использован принцип: "Сформировать в Улан-Удэ артбригаду и вооружить её тем, что есть, пока нет "Коалиции".
        It is alarming that the formation of the brigade is recognized as necessary even without the alleged standard weapons.
        1. Oden280
          Oden280 4 December 2015 08: 15 New
          +2
          Previously, there were several art divisions in each district. Which included brigades of heavy MLRS Smerch. Hurricane and long-range artillery brigades, one of the main tasks of which was firing nuclear munitions. In the 90s, under the treaties, nuclear munitions were removed from the units, and the equipment was sent for storage. This hour, apparently, it was decided to deploy such brigades. So that there are whetstones. And the Coalition, with all its novelty, is an artillery system of the divisional level but not like an army or front-line.
        2. edge
          edge 4 December 2015 09: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Moore
          It is alarming that the formation of the brigade is recognized as necessary even without the alleged standard weapons.

          easier to rearm than create from scratch.
    7. SOKOL777
      SOKOL777 4 December 2015 01: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      their campaign is removed from conservation


      Недавно была тема на ВО о "Тюльпанах".
      Теперь"Пионы"подтянулись.
      Very interesting! soldier
    8. nimboris
      nimboris 4 December 2015 05: 06 New
      0
      my father-in-law on them back in the 80s served in ZabVO
    9. sokudo
      sokudo 4 December 2015 08: 57 New
      0
      Moreover, they have not produced since 1987, i.e. almost 30 years //
  2. potap6509
    potap6509 3 December 2015 20: 06 New
    +9
    Delivered from storage bases, after re-preservation it must be assumed.
  3. nikola
    nikola 3 December 2015 20: 06 New
    +3
    I didn’t think that they were still in service.
  4. Massik
    Massik 3 December 2015 20: 07 New
    0
    This Peony is already 35 years old at lunch. All this should have arrived before 2010, and today we need more modern systems.
    Comrades lagging behind, far behind ...
    1. Jozhkin Cat
      Jozhkin Cat 3 December 2015 20: 09 New
      15
      Normally lagging behind, slowly and keeping up with the rest laughing
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 3 December 2015 20: 56 New
        0
        Especially from the Chinese ???
        Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
        Normally lagging behind, slowly and keeping up with the rest laughing
    2. sober
      sober 3 December 2015 20: 10 New
      12
      Quote: Marssik
      We are lagging behind comrades, we are far behind ..


      And we do not lag behind anything. So where to put the shells? Hell shooting !!!!!!!!!!! lol
    3. Asadullah
      Asadullah 3 December 2015 22: 17 New
      +3
      This Peony is already 35 years old at lunch
      Yes, even a hundred, if the characteristics allow. What they need is modernization, new b \ n and a correction system.
    4. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 3 December 2015 22: 24 New
      +4
      From whom and in what?
      Large caliber 200 + mm out of curiosity looked
      Analogs M110 (Yankees) is discontinued, NORINCO 203 mm (China) is experienced. Not produced, Coxsans North Korean current in service and all.
      and so ... 2S7M 86go ... 30 years is not such a long time, to slightly update the guidance system and a completely working colossus. Seriously, what is new in addition to guidance systems (have become more accurate) and the strengthening of explosives, in the subject of a shell and a barrel?
      Analogs in rocket artillery in the form of the Katyusha family (Grads, Storms, Tornadoes, Solntsepeki) by shell I think a little more expensive.
      The question remains why they did not take the caliber less (155mm) (Msta-S, Coalition), but I think there are reasons. As an option, one of the reasons is that they are going to put into service new equipment on a new platform, but for now they plug holes with what they are.
    5. SOKOL777
      SOKOL777 4 December 2015 01: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: Marssik
      Comrades lagging behind, far behind ...


      We’re not far behind!
      This gun is perfection itself.
      I served them ...
    6. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 4 December 2015 01: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Marssik
      Comrades lagging behind, far behind ...

      No, Marcel, do not lag behind, ahem ... catch up.)))

      We remove sound trunks from the conservation of BHVT and CBRT and ... push them into linear units, simultaneously searching for platoon and battery commanders, not forgetting to recruit contractors.

      What does it mean ?
      Yes, we simply return back what was blissfully ..., ahem ... destroyed - the combat-ready parts of the artillery of the Army and District subordination.

      Peony still serve and serve - that's why he and PION, although not young at all)))
      yes
    7. edge
      edge 4 December 2015 09: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Marssik
      This Peony is already 35 years old at lunch. All this should have arrived before 2010, and today we need more modern systems.
      Comrades lagging behind, far behind ...

      It’s unlikely that the Americans won’t take off b-52s that were still flying about Vietnam
    8. Dimka off
      Dimka off 4 December 2015 15: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Marssik
      Comrades lagging behind, far behind ...

      I think we need to resume production of the upgraded version of Peony. His power is terrible.
  5. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 3 December 2015 20: 08 New
    +8
    Хорошая машина, вот только интересно, поступившие на вооружение образцы модернизированы, ибо "не молодая" уже система. Автор информации мог бы и поболее до нас довести. Мне бы в частности было бы очень интересно, коллеги.
    1. Jozhkin Cat
      Jozhkin Cat 3 December 2015 20: 11 New
      +8
      Why is there something to upgrade ?? Chassis from the T80? And the sights are normal there, they carry out their task request
      1. Finntroll
        Finntroll 3 December 2015 21: 15 New
        +4
        wink With such power, OFS is not necessary to get a tick in a tick, +/- 10-15m. role will not play. More importantly another, this flower was ground first and foremost under the fire with special tools of small and ultra-small power. Either it's a muscle game or it's time to pack things with a warrior.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 3 December 2015 21: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: FinnTroll
          Either it's a muscle game or it's time to pack things with a warrior.


          I recently had a dream ... in the same vein, I had a dream four years before it burned in the tank, it was a real déjà vu .... so I'm packing just about anyway ..
        2. Asadullah
          Asadullah 3 December 2015 22: 20 New
          +2
          Either it's a muscle game or it's time to pack things with a warrior.


          "Джентльменский набор" должен быть всегда наготове. А для гражданских, хорошо всегда интересоваться, что там нового по ВУСу.....
        3. edge
          edge 4 December 2015 09: 24 New
          0
          Quote: FinnTroll
          or it's time to pack things with a warrior.

          it's time, brother, it’s time, if a whirlpool starts somewhere (Deutsch, Americans, Britons climbed into Syria), then the Psheks, Balts and Khokh ... they’ll probably try to peck from behind
      2. avt
        avt 3 December 2015 21: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Yozhkin Cat
        Why is there something to upgrade ??

        If only the barrel on to increase wear.
      3. Lexa-149
        Lexa-149 4 December 2015 02: 10 New
        0
        Satellite navigation systems and determining their coordinates are now being installed on self-propelled guns. Have they been put on these or are they stupidly driven with BHVT?
  6. Captain45
    Captain45 3 December 2015 20: 14 New
    15
    Поправьте,если ошибаюсь,но под "Пионы" кажется спецБП разработан и направляют их в Восточный ВО.На всякий случай для наших восточных "партнёров" с той стороны Амура? А то,что с консервации сняли,довелось мне как-то пострелять с "нагана" 1903 г.выпуска с клеймом "Императорский Тульский оружейный завод" и неплохо отстрелялся старый "наган".
    1. Jozhkin Cat
      Jozhkin Cat 3 December 2015 20: 16 New
      +2
      I would give the little finger for such a Nagan repeat
    2. SCHNIFER
      SCHNIFER 3 December 2015 20: 37 New
      +3
      Не ошибаетесь. Активно-реактивный 3БВ2. Для 2С7 пион, а также для легендарной Б-4М - "кувалды Сталина"
      In the late 1980s - early 1990s. in accordance with obligations under the Soviet-American INF Treaty and unilateral US initiatives, all nuclear artillery shells were eliminated. In 1991, in response to US initiatives, the Soviet Union undertook to eliminate all nuclear artillery shells, tactical missiles and mines related to land weapons troops.
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 3 December 2015 21: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: SCHNIFER
        In 1991, in response to US initiatives, the Soviet Union pledged to eliminate all nuclear artillery shells, tactical missile ammunition, and mines related to the armament of the Ground Forces.

        Duc ento, they accepted the obligation. But did they fulfill it? In 1991, the ensign wasn’t dragged from warehouses repeat .Может где у "дикого прапора" в сарае десяток-другой и завалялся? lol
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 3 December 2015 21: 24 New
          +4
          Quote: Captain45
          Ну дык енто,обязательство приняли.А вот исполнили ли его?В 1991 прапора чё только не тащили со складов .Может где у "дикого прапора" в сарае десяток-другой и завалялся?

          Такие боеприпасы на таком учете состоят, что "дикий прапор" от него, как черт от ладана, лишь бы не быть причастным к его "перемещениям".
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 3 December 2015 21: 40 New
            +6
            Quote: ARES623
            Такие боеприпасы на таком учете состоят, что "дикий прапор" от него, как черт от ладана, лишь бы не быть причастным к его "перемещениям".


            for 43 years of my life I understood one thing ... in our life what happens does not even happen ... hi
          2. Asadullah
            Asadullah 3 December 2015 22: 27 New
            +1
            что "дикий прапор" от него, как черт от ладана,


            Есть такое. Помню был скандал с литерой "Х", так вещевик сознался за пол склада НЗ, но слезно клялся что не причастен к таким страшным вещам, потом флаконы нашлись, а прапора все равно посадили, за склад НЗ laughing
        2. Rus2012
          Rus2012 3 December 2015 22: 11 New
          0
          Quote: Captain45
          In 1991, the ensign wasn’t dragged from warehouses

          Praporam entrance to the RTB hall was ordered. Only officers.
          Как шутили тут - "даже начальники тележки у глухо-немых - сплошь полковники"
      2. SOKOL777
        SOKOL777 4 December 2015 01: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: SCHNIFER
        all nuclear artillery shells, ammunition of tactical missiles and mines related to the armament of the Ground Forces.


        Tactical special ammunition has a shelf life of 12 years. After the expiration of the term, they are sent for processing. New troops arrive ...
        So everything is in order. good
    3. neri73-r
      neri73-r 3 December 2015 20: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Captain45
      Поправьте,если ошибаюсь,но под "Пионы" кажется спецБП разработан и направляют их в Восточный ВО.На всякий случай для наших восточных "партнёров" с той стороны Амура? А то,что с консервации сняли,довелось мне как-то пострелять с "нагана" 1903 г.выпуска с клеймом "Императорский Тульский оружейный завод" и неплохо отстрелялся старый "наган".


      Не для восточных "партнёров", там, кажется, по договору(ДОВСЕ) их в западных (до Урала) округах держать нельзя!!! hi А где же "Малка"?
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 3 December 2015 22: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: neri73-r
        Не для восточных "партнёров", там, кажется, по договору(ДОВСЕ) их в западных (до Урала) округах держать нельзя!!!

        CFE Treaty - I rested in a pose for a long time, therefore I CAN!
        And in Syria there are units with the Siberian Military District and the Eastern Military District, so ...
        They wrote correctly that taking heavy reinforced knots requires heavy art.
        In Syria, it is not enough ...bully
      2. Furious bambr
        Furious bambr 3 December 2015 22: 40 New
        0
        If you really want it, you can))) In Tambov there are 18 osmindn based on the disbanded 45 abr of high power. Previously, such calibers were listed in the artillery of the reserve of the Supreme High Command. It is possible that they are going to revive the artillery of the RVGK
      3. edge
        edge 4 December 2015 09: 29 New
        0
        Quote: neri73-r
        Не для восточных "партнёров", там, кажется, по договору(ДОВСЕ) их в западных (до Урала) округах держать нельзя!!

        it’s difficult to transfer something, 4 days lettering and they are in combat formation ....
  7. Skhidnyak
    Skhidnyak 3 December 2015 20: 18 New
    10
    So what, what is old. Vaughn in our LPR very necessary vesch. That's just the shells they correct - yes.
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev 3 December 2015 20: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: Skhidnyak
      So what, what is old. Vaughn in our LPR very necessary vesch. That's just the shells they correct - yes.

      That's right!
      This kind of weaponry with high-precision ammunition is one of the components of the rout of the banderlogs and those who joined them.
      Peony, Hyacinth, 180-mm S-23 will not spoil the furrows, especially with shells such as Centimeter and Krasnopol.
    2. SCHNIFER
      SCHNIFER 3 December 2015 23: 15 New
      0
      Токмо до 152/155. У бандерлогов есть "Квiтник" кажись 152 под Мсту-С
  8. igordok
    igordok 3 December 2015 20: 19 New
    +7
    На сегодняшний день САУ "Пион" считается самой мощной самоходной артиллерийской установкой в мире

    EXTREME. laughing The most powerful gun is in the service, in Ukraine.

    Как сообщил одесский "волонтер" Александр Лоренц, на вооружение 28-й отдельной механизированной бригады вооруженных сил Украины поступила батарея восстановленных старых советских 203-мм буксируемых гаубиц Б-4 образца 1931 года

    1. Skhidnyak
      Skhidnyak 3 December 2015 20: 23 New
      10
      That is not. Peony is on carabiner, and ento on oxen. Already not self-propelled.
      1. Manul
        Manul 3 December 2015 20: 45 New
        0
        Quote: Skhidnyak
        That is not. Peony then on a carabiner

        What did I want to ask - does Peony have a gas turbine engine, like a T-80?
        1. SOKOL777
          SOKOL777 4 December 2015 01: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Manul
          Peony also has a gas turbine engine, like the T-80?


          No, there is a forced diesel engine made specifically for her.
          Plus a diesel generator to provide power.
    2. self-propelled
      self-propelled 3 December 2015 20: 28 New
      +6
      Quote: igordok
      Как сообщил одесский "волонтер" Александр Лоренц, на вооружение 28-й отдельной механизированной бригады вооруженных сил Украины поступила батарея восстановленных старых советских 203-мм буксируемых гаубиц Б-4 образца 1931 года

      данная "артбатарея" состоит из одного (!) орудия Б-4, находившегося на балансе бывшего Одесского высшего артиллерийского командного ордена Ленина училища им. М. В. Фрунзе
      taken from http://bmpd.livejournal.com/

      photo Alexander Lorenz / www.facebook.com/alexandr.lorents
    3. Jozhkin Cat
      Jozhkin Cat 3 December 2015 20: 54 New
      +3
      in modern combat, the thing is so-so. but it’s going to beat on peaceful cities (((( sad
      1. bionik
        bionik 3 December 2015 21: 24 New
        +3
        Финны прозвали её-"Сталинская кувалда".
    4. Serg81
      Serg81 4 December 2015 12: 44 New
      0
      This is not a bad howitzer. The B-4M modernized after the Second World War was in service with the SA for a long time. I don’t understand why in our army there is no modern 203 mm howitzer or mortar
  9. bad
    bad 3 December 2015 20: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: Alex_Rarog
    beauty ..... only it bothers me that they are being taken off conservation from a campaign .... because if my memory serves me right, they won’t .....
    ..heh .. special ammunition probably rust laughing вот и снимают с консервации..аргумент для особо тупых "соседей" soldier
  10. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 3 December 2015 20: 24 New
    +2
    Артиллеристам пострелять дают...,а некоторым "партнёрам" yes hinting!
  11. Skhidnyak
    Skhidnyak 3 December 2015 20: 30 New
    +2
    При отсутствии авиации, с хорошо обученными расчетами, с хорошей разведкой и корректировкой, да массированным ударом ой не слабо получается. Про "Пионы" не скажу, в действии не видел, а вот "Гвоздики" и "Акации" ну на фиг, не знаешь куда ховаться.
  12. avia1991
    avia1991 3 December 2015 20: 32 New
    0
    На сегодняшний день САУ "Пион" считается самой мощной самоходной артиллерийской установкой в мире», – сказал офицер.
    And how much is the firing range? .. And can it fire tactical nuclear? ..
    Я к тому, что в ВВО она, наверное, пока не очень востребована - ее бы на юго-западные рубежи, "партнерам" под зад подпереть.. lol
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 3 December 2015 20: 48 New
      +7
      Quote: avia1991
      And how much is the firing range? .. And can it fire tactical nuclear? ..

      The usual 32 km., Active-reactive 47 km. Maybe nuclear.
      It can also be direct ... but I can’t even imagine it.
  13. dison
    dison 3 December 2015 20: 34 New
    +2
    While there is an opportunity and there is where, you need to test all the equipment.
  14. Vladimir K
    Vladimir K 3 December 2015 20: 35 New
    +2
    "Пион" - самая мощная самоходная артсистема. Имеет и спецбоебрипасы. Дальность стрельбы до 40 км.
    1. SCHNIFER
      SCHNIFER 3 December 2015 23: 20 New
      0
      Slightly more AR 47.5
  15. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 December 2015 20: 38 New
    +4
    With PION you need to work hard, replace the barrel with a more modern, topographic location system. And new long-range shells with GLONNASS guidance. Judging by the caliber, with modern gunpowders, the range of a projectile with an engine should be about 100km. Satellite guidance will give meter accuracy. Well, with simple shells with a new barrel and a 50km calculating machine, you can confidently shoot.
    1. Serg81
      Serg81 4 December 2015 12: 50 New
      0
      Yeah and dispersion at such a firing range will be 100-150 meters, it’s better not to whip out of the tornado, especially since it shoots at such a range, plus the barrel will come out if not diamond, then it’s definitely golden.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 4 December 2015 18: 42 New
        0
        The cost of ammunition allows you to make them adjustable. replacement of the Point, but with a cheaper shell.
  16. Skhidnyak
    Skhidnyak 3 December 2015 20: 38 New
    +3
    Well, and it was designed for special ammunition.
    1. SOKOL777
      SOKOL777 4 December 2015 01: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Skhidnyak
      Well, and it was designed for special ammunition.


      Absolutely true. Carry ammunition (inside the gun) -2 special special ammunition of adjustable power.
  17. Yrsh.2008
    Yrsh.2008 3 December 2015 20: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: sober
    Quote: Marssik
    We are lagging behind comrades, we are far behind ..


    And we do not lag behind anything. So where to put the shells? Hell shooting !!!!!!!!!!! lol

    I respect those who are sober. Only here it is better to wait with the use of ammunition (complete) of this system, wait a minute, at least until (God forbid) the moment our first frontier guard entered the battle. Otherwise, ALL who miraculously will then remain - will not stay for a long time - will be frozen, however, the winter will be Sooo and endless ... laughing
  18. sabakina
    sabakina 3 December 2015 20: 43 New
    +8
    Могли бы и видак поставить, не все ж видели "Пион" в действии...
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    2. 3officer
      3officer 3 December 2015 21: 51 New
      +1
      A good video player, only the Psheks will now charge the American guns.
  19. Wiskar
    Wiskar 3 December 2015 20: 44 New
    +6
    “The artillery units of the Eastern Military District received for service a batch of 203-millimeter self-propelled artillery mounts" Peony "... To date, the Pion self-propelled guns are considered the most powerful self-propelled artillery mounts in the world, ”the officer said.



    2C7 "Peony" (GABTU index - object 216) - Soviet 203-mm self-propelled artillery gun of the reserve of the Supreme High Command.
    1. Days
      Days 4 December 2015 23: 28 New
      +1
      All 6 pluses for the fact that Peony is really the most powerful, which is clearly visible on the table. Although you tried to show that this is not so, highlighting the same caliber :)

      90% of your comments are aimed at criticizing Russia, though you rarely succeed. Since your criticism is due to lack of awareness.
  20. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 December 2015 20: 50 New
    +4
    Monstrous power gun. A projectile for 100 kg in weight and range up to 47 km. Rate of fire up to 2.5 rounds / min! Apparently, after all, shots for such a gun are cheaper than missiles, and the accuracy of the hit is quite decent. Although this one was designed - and for special ammunition.
  21. Kapralwdw
    Kapralwdw 3 December 2015 20: 54 New
    +1
    this is power !!!! soldier
  22. Eulogius
    Eulogius 3 December 2015 20: 56 New
    +2
    Все-таки в России всегда умели создавать "красивое" оружие
    1. edge
      edge 4 December 2015 09: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Eulogius
      Все-таки в России всегда умели создавать "красивое" оружие

      but it’s eating me, I’ve thought about it ... go ahead for the diapers ....
  23. SCHNIFER
    SCHNIFER 3 December 2015 20: 57 New
    +2
    Via Gibraltar. Where they are needed.
  24. Skhidnyak
    Skhidnyak 3 December 2015 21: 04 New
    -2
    Вот видео боевого применения "Пиона", правда украинской армией.
    1. SOKOL777
      SOKOL777 4 December 2015 01: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Skhidnyak
      Вот видео боевого применения "Пиона", правда украинской армией.


      Это не"Пион". negative
      Это 2С5"Геоцинт-С". good
      The same good thing ...
  25. NeRTT
    NeRTT 3 December 2015 21: 22 New
    0
    Букет "Пионов" в Дальневосточном регионе-всем Жадным до земельки Русской:подарит вечный смертый сон!!! good
  26. Sasha75
    Sasha75 3 December 2015 21: 47 New
    +2
    The first thing that comes to mind is if you don’t know the technique of how you will fight on it, that is, we will fight, and now they will study how to organize units because it is more than one day’s business, where to fight from the borders in the east where Afghanistan is to Armenia’s help with Turkey , and that is also an option. And the shells under the USSR didn’t do it for such wars; they were preparing for more than one year to shoot. And there are a lot of ISU 152 old weapons; before 1992, the armaments were melted, even the storage facilities should be freed, and newer equipment for storage and the transfer of old ones would not be shy, not scrap metal. There are states that both T55 and T 64 will be happy to buy, only the margin is naturally not there, but this is money. Iraq generally restores junk from rubbish bins in Syria, fights everyone that shoots and our WWII guns are used to the full, maybe they are going to sell them there. But about Afghanistan, I remembered how amers were pressed a little there, they began to arm the Afghan army with their equipment, and who knows how to fight there, and it has been teaching for more than one year, but our tanks and other equipment were known there and the specialists were only old we were then They answered that we only have such in Transnistria in warehouses, give the green light to agree to export it, agree that we will agree in one day, and the ammunition from there exported several trains to Afghanistan, that’s how they will agree to everything.
  27. gg.na
    gg.na 3 December 2015 21: 48 New
    +2
    Well otsedova’s tulip, and how you sap up your sap wink !!! What ?! A very decent bunch! good
  28. Denimax
    Denimax 3 December 2015 22: 20 New
    +5
    Quote: Skhidnyak
    Вот видео боевого применения "Пиона", правда украинской армией.

    Only this is Hyacinth and not Peony.
  29. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 3 December 2015 22: 21 New
    +1
    Гордеев отметил также, что «при разработке ходовой части "Пиона" использовались узлы и агрегаты танка Т-80». Установка имеет индивидуальную торсионную подвеску.

    The engine is V-shaped, diesel. Driving wheels for some reason in front? So the front armor plate is behind. Well, it's not like in the T-80 tank.
    1. SOKOL777
      SOKOL777 4 December 2015 02: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: Алексей_К
      Well, it's not like in the T-80.


      From the T-80 track rollers, drive wheels, guide rollers (sloths), suspension elements (and even not all).
      Few people know that during the creation of the T-80 tank, the creation of a heavy tank was in parallel. For some reason, the heavy tank was abandoned. But the design groundwork remained.
      Вот этот задел и стал основой для создания самоходной базы для"Пиона".
      That's it.
      A good car, it drives smoothly, cradles ... You’ll fasten the headset to hear the engine less and sleep like an elephant ...
  30. Military
    Military 3 December 2015 23: 45 New
    +4
    Good system! The accuracy is excellent, cross-country ability is good if without fanaticism, an omnivorous engine, the ability to use special ammunition, transportable bk for 2s7m 8pcs, for 2s7 4pcs, rate of fire 1 shot per minute !!! Of course, the automation system must be redone on the Emov system in the mid-80s.
    Question one! Why the hell did they cut and disperse all BM artillery brigades in the districts in the mid 2000s !!!!!
    Personnel, that’s the most valuable thing, and the iron in our warehouses is full!
  31. Zomanus
    Zomanus 3 December 2015 23: 54 New
    +2
    They remove from storage all the equipment that is there.
    It is right, because ammunition also has its own shelf life.
    And I doubt that ammunition is still being produced for these calibers.
    This is about how in Maritime Primorye Marines shoot at exercises
    remnants of RCC old complexes.
  32. vitaliy.rnd
    vitaliy.rnd 4 December 2015 00: 21 New
    +1
    Чем разнообразнее букет, тем больше "радости" врагу.
  33. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 4 December 2015 02: 51 New
    +4
    In conditions of warfare, not with gangs, but with a well-armed enemy, this system is suitable for only one shot from one firing position. They will not be able to charge the second, and they will be covered by VTB or MLRS.
    In my opinion, this system needs to be modernized. Namely:
    1). Put on each machine a satellite topographic location system.
    2). Отходить от работы номеров расчёта и от стрельбы "с грунта".Для этого надо делать на ней автоматизированную боеукладку, на подобие, как в шведской "ARCHER".
    3). Наводчика не мешало бы закрыть от осколков, дождя, ветра... Какую-нибудь бронекабину в виде "скворечника" на автокране.
    4). Put the ASUO on the machine so that all the data on the target is not transmitted by voice, and the gun commander goes to the monitor. The gun commander would already have calculated individual gun corrections in his ASUO that would be automatically entered when the gun was aimed at the target.
    And there would have been a completely different calico! The battery came out on the OP, dispersed by the hardware, each gun was attached, automatically transferred its coordinates to the BDS in the computer, and that automatically sent the NSAD to its computer.
    They fired at the target and immediately rushed off with fire to another area of ​​the OP or to the place where their TZM were to replenish the warhead, until the answer arrived.
    1. albanian
      albanian 4 December 2015 03: 55 New
      +1
      I myself wanted to write something similar definitely plus to you!
      But taking into account the range of work, I do not think that it will be exchanged for near targets, it is quite possible to manage to make 2 shots and change position.
      As an option, with sufficient automation, it will be very good in counter-battery, the main thing is then to have time to get the enemy’s charge away from the enemy, the battery’s position is very tempting, and the areas at the NATO defense organizations are not small.
    2. MolGro
      MolGro 19 December 2015 06: 56 New
      0
      С учетом спец боеприпасов 4-6 кт "пиона")! 1 выстрела достаточно)
      And I think a meter miss is not so important there)
      "ARCHER" это обычная арта
      For example, the same coalition and revenge have special shells of 2,5 ct.
      So your arguments are not objective and in a big war where satellites are shot down they will use all types of artillery deployment.
      And the range of the archer is not accepted as an argument, 60-70 km with new active rockets of the coalition, it ceases to be an advantage!
  34. kurs66
    kurs66 4 December 2015 02: 55 New
    0
    As far as I know, they arrived a month ago, most likely it means that the unit is fully formed and the process of coordination has begun in the new academic period. And the car is a beast !!! I would not like to find myself under the art coating of such a flower)))
  35. Lieutenant colonel
    Lieutenant colonel 4 December 2015 02: 59 New
    +1
    I don’t understand which one, it was necessary to reduce the whole division from the beginning (and there were two of them in the Far Eastern Federal District and they were the reserves of the Supreme Commander), which was armed with, including, an excellent system - and then transfer them there again ( in BBO) ?!
    1. Lexa-149
      Lexa-149 4 December 2015 03: 35 New
      0
      Perdyukova-Opilkina must be hung by the eggs and ask. angry
  36. PatriotKZ
    PatriotKZ 4 December 2015 05: 32 New
    0
    Not so howitzer, babakhnet little seem
    1. Lexa-149
      Lexa-149 4 December 2015 13: 49 New
      0
      This is a gun, not a howitzer.
  37. ayuric
    ayuric 4 December 2015 05: 58 New
    +1
    "Свежачок"
  38. igor1905
    igor1905 4 December 2015 06: 04 New
    +1
    Perhaps this is due to the fact that Peonies can successfully use the special ammunition stored
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 December 2015 09: 47 New
      +1
      They have needed modernization for a long time - and so they have set up frank junk.
  39. MolGro
    MolGro 4 December 2015 10: 27 New
    +1
    List of vigorous shells and mines of the Russian Armed Forces) Who calls them?)
    406-mm nuclear projectile "Capacitor" -For gun SM-54 (2A3 "Capacitor")
    420 mm Transformer nuclear mine-Self-propelled mortar 2B1 Oka
    152-mm nuclear projectile 3BV3 self-propelled guns: 2S19 Msta-S, 2S3 Acacia;
    152 mm howitzer gun D-20, 2C5 Hyacinth. Nuclear power 2,5 kt
    180-mm shell ZBV1 180-mm gun S-23; MK-3-180 (coastal artillery, previously fleet)
    203 mm shell 3BV2 self-propelled guns 2S7 "Peony",
    203 mm howitzer B-4M (GAU Index - 52-G-625M) Shot range from 18 to 30 km.
    240 mm 3BV4 mines; 240 mm towed M-240 mortar of 1950 model (GRAU index — 52-M-864); 240 mm self-propelled 2C4 Tulip mortar
    1. Lexa-149
      Lexa-149 4 December 2015 13: 52 New
      0
      Of all the above, only half are in service.
  40. Raptor_RB
    Raptor_RB 5 December 2015 17: 48 New
    0
    When fighters from fat attracted her, everyone was laughing. Right now, we all soon, the campaign, will not be laughing.