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What did the Turkish Foreign Minister ask for Sergey Lavrov during the meeting in Belgrade?

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov met in Belgrade with the head of the Turkish diplomacy, Mevlüt авavuşoогlu. The conversation took place at the initiative of official Ankara. As reported "Vesti", Lavrov’s meeting with the Turkish Minister lasted about 40 minutes. During the meeting, issues of drastic changes in the vector of Russian-Turkish relations were discussed in connection with the blow struck by the Turkish Air Force on the Russian Su-24.


What did the Turkish Foreign Minister ask for Sergey Lavrov during the meeting in Belgrade?


Chavushoglu reportedly asked for Lavrov not to link the incident with the Russian bomber with the "joint struggle of Russia and Turkey against terrorism". But that's what a "joint struggle" is. About the one at which they suddenly shoot in the back?

Before meeting with the head of Turkish diplomacy, Sergei Lavrov in Belgrade, while on the OSCE platform, he called for the unification of all interested parties to consolidate in the fight against international terrorism. According to Lavrov, Europe must avoid internal strife, so as not to repeat the mistake of politicians made before the start of the First World War. The Russian Foreign Minister noted that only joint efforts, and not scattered and uncoordinated actions, will succeed in defeating the terrorist threat.

The most interesting thing is that Cavusoglu spoke about the fight against terrorism at the OSCE meeting. True, it remained unclear who Turkey considers to be terrorists - its own citizens from among the Kurds or all the same militants DAISH, whom it helps to realize stolen oil ...
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  1. avvg
    avvg 3 December 2015 19: 33
    72
    What did he not ask, can the Turks be trusted? It is definitely impossible to believe the Turks!
    1. aktanir
      aktanir 3 December 2015 19: 37
      39
      life is like that, you just need to make Turkey understand that it either becomes an enemy after the destruction of our aircraft, or pays a heavy price for damage to Russian authority
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 3 December 2015 20: 05
        13
        Quote: aktanir
        pays a heavy price for damage to Russian authority


        The nasty ones now face a choice: to listen to Putin or to continue to rejoice at the 3 billion German "pieces of silver" for their Judaic behavior.
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 3 December 2015 20: 28
          +9
          As in x / f "DMB" after an interview with a special officer:
          - What did you ask about?
          - I did not understand!

          PS: I mean Turkey - not to link the incident with the Russian bomber with "the joint fight of Russia and Turkey against terrorism"
      2. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 3 December 2015 21: 16
        +8
        40 minutes. Like in professional boxing - 12 rounds. Does Lavrov have a new world champion belt? It’s a pity that they didn’t show it on TV ...
        1. Love
          Love 3 December 2015 22: 48
          21
          He performs very well in heavyweight!
          1. Evgtan
            Evgtan 5 December 2015 12: 11
            +5
            another picture on the topic
      3. Skif83
        Skif83 4 December 2015 08: 58
        +9
        There are none either, Turkey was, is and will be an enemy of Russia.
        To pay, yes, it is necessary to force to the maximum!
        When will we finally understand that apart from the army and the navy, we have no allies, let alone "partners".
        And therefore, we must always be strong, after all, the tidbit for the whole world, that’s all the time and they are tested for strength.
        Another would be to clean up the "fifth column" with the oligarchs ...
      4. larand
        larand 6 December 2015 13: 34
        0
        Quote: aktanir
        such a life, you just need to make Turkey understand


        The animal must be punished immediately after misconduct. If you punish much later, the animal does not understand why he was punished. This is the law of training.
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    3. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 3 December 2015 19: 43
      56
      At meetings with the Turks of Russia, you need to behave like real copper from a joke:
      The bear, wolf, hare and fox gathered to play cards. The bear deals the cards and condemns:
      - And who will cheat - right in the face. Right here on red, on impudent.
      1. Good me
        Good me 3 December 2015 20: 31
        42
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        At meetings with the Turks of Russia, you need to behave like real copper from a joke:
        The bear, wolf, hare and fox gathered to play cards. The bear deals the cards and condemns:
        - And who will cheat - right in the face. Right here on red, on impudent.


        Right here on the redhead, on the arrogant Ottoman face ...



        What did the Turkish Foreign Minister ask for Sergey Lavrov during the meeting in Belgrade?


        And more about diplomats and their diplomacy ...

        Maria Zakharova asked who will call the IG

        03.12.2015, 17: 41
        Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova commented on a statement by British Foreign Minister Philip Hammond that if Russian President Vladimir Putin calls Syrian leader Bashar Assad, then "madness in Syria will end."
        “There is one person in the world who can immediately put an end to the madness in Syria. This will happen if Mr. Putin picks up the phone, calls Mr. Assad and tells him that the game is over, ”quoted Hammond Zakharov on her Facebook page.

        "So. Let's figure it out. If everything will be as our British colleagues convince us, and after Assad’s departure, the madness will stop, where then will the Islamic State get to? Or will someone also call them and say that the game is over?

        Attention, the question is: who will call the IG? ”Asked the representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry.


        Original news RT in Russian:
        https://russian.rt.com/article/134498
        1. Good me
          Good me 3 December 2015 20: 55
          +7
          Quote: Good Me
          And more about diplomats and their diplomacy ...


          AND PEOPLE'S DIPLOMACY.
          On Wednesday, December 2, the large landing ship (BDK) of the Saratov Black Sea Fleet, sailing from Russia to Syria, did not raise the “guest” flag of the republic while crossing the Turkish Straits. About what cases the crew of the ship decides not to observe marine etiquette, AiF.ru learned from an expert.

          The director of the Center for Strategic Conditions Ivan Konovalov answers:

          - Indeed, usually the “guest” flag is raised on a gaffle as a sign of respect for the country. But sometimes the crews decide not to do this, thus expressing their disgust with the country in whose waters the ship resides.

          Our armed forces, including the fleet, took very seriously the situation with the Su-24 shot down by the Turkish Air Force. Of course, the pilots understand that they are at war and anything can happen, but in this case it was actually a stab in the back. Very many people hold this opinion in Russia - from President Vladimir Putin to ordinary citizens. Also, one should not forget about the marine Alexander Pozynich, who flew to save our pilots and was killed. Therefore, it is not surprising that the captain of "Saratov" decided not to raise the Turkish flag.
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    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 3 December 2015 19: 44
      19
      This meeting is unlikely to be a breakthrough. Almost simultaneously, there was a message of GDP to the Federal Assembly, where the place of Erdogan and his accomplices was clearly defined: a madhouse or political hara-kiri. A clear message has been given: this is not all guys, wait for the continuation. There is nothing for the Turks to catch in Russia, while this Golum is in power)))
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 3 December 2015 19: 50
        +4
        Nothing concrete is said here about the conversation between Lavrov and Chavushoglu request
        And Putin, Erdogan, was threatened.
        What will it lead to? 100% not to de-escalation.
        1. sanja.grw
          sanja.grw 3 December 2015 20: 19
          37
          And Putin, Erdogan, was threatened.

          And then there should be SO
          1. Aryan
            Aryan 4 December 2015 00: 19
            -4
            and here’s another option ... laughing
            1. Good me
              Good me 4 December 2015 00: 46
              +7
              Quote: Aryan
              and here’s another option ...

              Unfortunately, Reagan was smart enough not to listen to this bald Judas. And he, in turn, continued to ruin the country.
        2. Zlatik
          Zlatik 5 December 2015 07: 14
          0
          You haven’t found any mental disorders, just d. Urak!
      2. oleg46
        oleg46 4 December 2015 07: 05
        -5
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        A clear message has been given: this is not all guys, wait for the continuation.

        These are just words.... Whether there will be appropriate provocations of action is an even bigger question! And what adequate actions can be taken by a state, whose leaders quite recently "took offense" at the words "regional power", if a truly regional power and a vassal of the United States - Turkey - in fact committed an act of aggression against a "world" power? A truly world power (USA, or the same China) in a similar situation would it behave like Russia is behaving now? I doubt it, however. In about 2 weeks, there will be almost no tourists in Turkey. As the saying goes: "we will look further." hi
        1. Varies
          Varies 4 December 2015 08: 26
          +9
          In fact, the US world power behaved more slurred and weakly when its ambassador was killed in Libya, so shut up in a rag and do not belittle the adequacy and correctness of Russia's response.
          1. adept666
            adept666 4 December 2015 13: 12
            +3
            In fact, the US world power behaved more slurred and weakly when its ambassador was killed in Libya,
            What could she do? They had already managed to destroy Libya just before that (a little before they killed their ambassador). Yes, and he died at the hands of "their own", consider the usual household goods in the United States ...
          2. oleg46
            oleg46 5 December 2015 14: 19
            +1
            Quote: Varies
            shut up in a rag

            Rudeness is the first sign that there are NO real arguments! What you cited as such is actually a fact testifying against you. So what better shut you up, gentleman from the steppes of Kazakhstan. We, in Russia, will somehow figure out the status of our country ourselves. hi
        2. Zlatik
          Zlatik 5 December 2015 07: 17
          -1
          Provocateur!
    5. Finches
      Finches 3 December 2015 20: 21
      19
      Really really not worth talking with the Turks! From time immemorial they have been endowed with exorbitant conceit, which can be treated very simply - life-giving p ...! Let us recall the arrogant answer of Serasker, the commandant of the fortress Suvorov"Rather the Danube will flow backwards and the sky will fall to the ground than Ishmael will surrender". How it all ended !? So Erdogan is being inflated today, like a peacock - so far, about falling of the sky to the earth, he doesn’t tryndit, but he already carries decent garbage!
    6. cniza
      cniza 3 December 2015 20: 42
      +6
      Quote: avvg
      What did he not ask, can the Turks be trusted? It is definitely impossible to believe the Turks!


      You can’t trust anyone, everything needs to be verified and calculated, we don’t need someone else’s, but we won’t give up our own.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 3 December 2015 21: 02
        18
        Quote: cniza
        we don’t need a stranger


        how it’s not necessary ... in vain do they scrub us and watered ... now we need EVERYTHING ... and let them seriously scratch our turnips and think ... I personally will fuck ... I lost from inflation, from stagnation in the economy. from cheap ruble and cheap oil .. let them return laughing
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    8. vorobey
      vorobey 3 December 2015 20: 56
      +6
      Quote: avvg
      It is definitely impossible to believe the Turks!



      And I would have believed ... and would have said in the place of the Leader ... I believe .. prove ... and we'll see from behind ... but what can you do life like this ... in the back so in the back.
    9. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 3 December 2015 21: 06
      0
      But in general, should I meet with a representative of the criminals ...? Face to face of course you need .... when they are standing against the wall ..
      Quote: avvg
      What did he not ask, can the Turks be trusted? It is definitely impossible to believe the Turks!
    10. U-96
      U-96 3 December 2015 21: 39
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      Is it possible to believe the Turks? It is definitely impossible to believe the Turks!

      name who "definitely can". And if you can name it, then - with what degree of uniqueness?
      1. -Traveller-
        -Traveller- 4 December 2015 00: 19
        -7
        to Putin.
        or are you in doubt?
    11. 222222
      222222 3 December 2015 21: 43
      +1
      avvg RU Today, 19: 33
      What did he not ask for? Can the Turks be trusted? You definitely cannot trust the Turks! "..
      ... with them we are one hectare ..not possible ..next in the text ......... laughing
    12. Love
      Love 3 December 2015 22: 41
      +1
      As a native and former resident of a former Central Asian Union Republic, I will say this, eastern people are TALES!)))
    13. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 4 December 2015 00: 17
      -4
      Quote: avvg
      What did he not ask, can the Turks be trusted? It is definitely impossible to believe the Turks!

      said Marshal avvg and received the Generalissimo. laughing
    14. marlin1203
      marlin1203 4 December 2015 09: 56
      +2
      "... I'll tell you one clever thing now, just don't be offended ..." laughing
    15. Serafim-k
      Serafim-k 4 December 2015 22: 18
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      What did he not ask, can the Turks be trusted? It is definitely impossible to believe the Turks!

      What insight ..? You can’t believe .. well, yes super .. you can’t believe .. And the point is .. why did you believe before that .. ??! Why just start talking about it. Is it not easy to realize that Turkey and I were mistaken ... and our mistake is not that we did not know what they could do ... But that we thought that Turkey would want in the modern world to remain an independent state, .. respecting the sovereignty of other states: .. And it won’t act like a jackal, at the (feast of a dead lion) .. well, our cant .. But we will fix it .. Well, I hope ..! ! belay fellow
    16. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 6 December 2015 16: 00
      0
      Turks, fosterlings of the Anglo-Saxons. What trust is there! All this resembles 1938-early 1939. The threshold of war. This makes it sad, the "Pepsi generation" will have to fight. Few intelligible youth. I want to be wrong, I really want to.
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 3 December 2015 19: 34
    21
    Simple truth: - You must answer for your words and actions.
    And Turkey will answer. Even despite the fact that its NATO partners are trying in every possible way to justify and get Erdogan out of attack. Next week, new facts of the oil business of the Erdogan clan and the top of the political leadership of Turkey will be laid out. If Russia undertakes to do something, it does it thoroughly.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 3 December 2015 19: 46
      37
      Quote: sever.56
      Simple truth: - You must answer for your words and actions.

      In Turkish history, there have been cases of a very grim fate for the recent rulers of Turkey. In 1961, Prime Minister Adnan Menderes, (the organizer of the Istanbul pogrom of the Greeks in 1955), after a military coup, was hanged to the gallows. To avoid future military coups, Erdogan brutally purged the Turkish army and last year secured a life sentence for the 95-year-old retired President Kenan Evren, leader of the 1980 coup. With the help of this court, Erdogan wanted to show that the army is not allowed to raise a hand against state leaders, but he made a fatal mistake, emphasized a completely different meaning: the presidents of Turkey can be tried and hanged ... With a very high degree of probability, he will soon remember it "flock". Valera, hi !
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 3 December 2015 20: 16
        11
        Quote: Tersky
        emphasized a completely different meaning: Turkish presidents can be judged and hanged ..


        Victor, hi!
        As far as I remember, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk gave the army the right to intervene in state policy and remove top state officials from management if their actions harm Turkey.
        What Erdogan and Davutoglu are doing now is different from actions that cause political, economic and image harm to Turkey, cannot be regarded. Let's hope that Erdogan interrupted and transplanted not all normal officers and there is a noose around his neck. hi
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 3 December 2015 20: 24
          +9
          Quote: sever.56
          What Erdogan and Davutoglu are doing now

          Therefore, the protests in Turkey began to grow every year ...
        2. vorobey
          vorobey 3 December 2015 21: 06
          +5
          Quote: sever.56
          Mustafa Kemal Atatürk gave the army the right to intervene in state policy and remove top government officials from management if their actions harm Turkey.


          and he did not specify whose army? repeat Hi Valera .. drinks The leader though declares that they will not get rid of tomatoes .. but honestly his fists itch and scratch except for Ukrainians there is no one .. we don’t have Turks ..
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 3 December 2015 23: 12
            +7
            Quote: vorobey
            The leader though declares that they will not get off with tomatoes .. but honestly his fists itch

            Sanya, hi! drinks ! I wrote it already today, but for you I repeat - this is still looking at what tomatoes the GDP had in mind ... repeat
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      3. vorobey
        vorobey 3 December 2015 21: 03
        +4
        Quote: Tersky
        his "flock"


        adherents Vitya adherents ... hello .. hi
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 3 December 2015 20: 31
      11
      Quote: sever.56
      Next week, new facts of the oil business of the Erdogan clan and the top of the political leadership of Turkey will be laid out. If Russia undertakes to do something, it does it thoroughly.



      Hmm ...

      Valera, this is a madhouse ... What are you going to spread and to whom, if a high-ranking state official says black - that it is white, and declares to the whole world that it is not Erdogan and his son who use the bandit-counterfeit oil, but Assad, with what "under the leadership of Russia ???

      There is no link at hand, this morning as I saw in the news, I sat on my ass ...

      PS Our evidence is no evidence to anyone but ourselves ... pah, some kind of pun ...
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 3 December 2015 20: 50
        +4
        Quote: veksha50
        . Our evidence is no evidence to anyone but ourselves ... pah, some kind of pun


        George, hello!
        But I still try to be optimistic - Russia is going to post its evidence to the UN. The wider will be the disclosure of the facts of Erdogan and Co.’s business with Daesh, the greater will be the reaction of the Western population, frightened by the terrorist attacks in Paris and the huge migration, and the pressure on their governments. The big deal is not quickly done and the water wears away the stone ... hi
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 3 December 2015 21: 10
          +1
          Well, let’s lay out what’s next? This is a conversation with deaf-deaf-mute ... But they understand only the action, not the talking room ...
          Quote: sever.56
          Quote: veksha50
          . Our evidence is no evidence to anyone but ourselves ... pah, some kind of pun


          George, hello!
          But I still try to be optimistic - Russia is going to post its evidence to the UN. The wider will be the disclosure of the facts of Erdogan and Co.’s business with Daesh, the greater will be the reaction of the Western population, frightened by the terrorist attacks in Paris and the huge migration, and the pressure on their governments. The big deal is not quickly done and the water wears away the stone ... hi
        2. U-96
          U-96 3 December 2015 22: 02
          +1
          Quote: sever.56
          Russia is going to post its evidence to the UN.

          what evidence? Photos of traffic jams from fuel trucks and trucks? They themselves pinned on satellite images of the Buryat armored in the Donbass and a test tube with Cheney's analyzes. No one in the diplomatic circles takes seriously the prospect of such demonstrations.
          Quote: sever.56
          The wider will be the disclosure of the facts of the business of Erdogan and Co. with DAISH

          publicity of what? At least, such revelations do not begin with a campaign at the UN with compromising evidence. The technology has been worked out for a long time. And such an institution as the UN has the last link in it. If at all necessary.
          Quote: sever.56
          the greater will be the reaction of the population of the West, frightened by the terrorist attacks in Paris and the huge migration
          Do not make me laugh. You just don’t imagine whom the western man announces indirect the culprit of the Paris massacre. Surprise, but Russia. Exactly so: a bear in a china shop, tactlessly bombed the couple there and here - oops! - we, because of Russian barbarians, smear bloody snot on the civilized @ * lu ... So - without illusions about
          Quote: sever.56
          pressure on their governments.

          Quote: sever.56
          water sharpens a stone

          of course. In urology, this does not always work.
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  3. X Y Z
    X Y Z 3 December 2015 19: 36
    12
    It is reported that Cavusoglu asked Lavrov not to connect the incident with the Russian bomber with the "joint struggle of Russia and Turkey against terrorism."


    I do not understand. These funny guys seriously imagine that everything can be blabbed and they just get away with it?
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    2. Al_oriso
      Al_oriso 3 December 2015 20: 21
      +2
      He could ask Lavrov how evil and decisive Putin is. Why does he ignore them? Why doesn’t their tanks and planes enter Syria? Why blocked the way to columns with oil?
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  5. 123_123
    123_123 3 December 2015 19: 38
    +5
    no need to negotiate with them. this clown Perdogan raves about Russia’s involvement in the sale of Igilov’s oil - what can one talk about with these blows? cruise missile them in ... country.
    1. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 3 December 2015 19: 48
      10
      Quote: 123_123
      no need to negotiate with them. this clown Perdogan raves about Russia’s involvement in the sale of Igilov’s oil - what can one talk about with these blows? cruise missile them in ... country.

      I think, colleague, Lavrov still knows better whether or not he needs to meet with the Turkish minister. Lavrov, he is a colleague, and in "Africa" ​​Lavrov is a competent man, and I think quite in his place.
      Something like that, colleague. hi
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 3 December 2015 21: 14
        +5
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        Lavrov, a competent man, and I think quite in its place.


        a plus..

        it seems to me one more straw was thrown to a drowning man .... he still did not understand ... hi
      2. 123_123
        123_123 4 December 2015 16: 53
        0
        Yes, he knows better of course.
        And at the same time, a few hours after this meeting, the Turkish Foreign Minister, who met with Lavrov, stated that Crimea is Ukrainian territory, and Lavrov himself stated that the negotiations were empty.
        Therefore, I remain of my opinion that it was not worth negotiating with Turkey. ETOGES are not Europeans - the Turks take this for weakness.
  6. hartlend
    hartlend 3 December 2015 19: 38
    +8
    Quote: avvg
    You can’t believe the Turks already.

    Why already? It’s just impossible, just remember the previous relationship for 400 years.
  7. Mixweb
    Mixweb 3 December 2015 19: 38
    +4
    He talks about the fight against terrorists, and they themselves support daish. Although if they fight as well as the United States, then there are no questions. They will courageously destroy all construction equipment and the terrorists will surrender in horror.
  8. bionik
    bionik 3 December 2015 19: 39
    +4
    ... not to connect the incident with the Russian bomber with the "joint struggle of Russia and Turkey against terrorism" ... What a struggle !!! ??? If they themselves cover them !?
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  10. ARES623
    ARES623 3 December 2015 19: 43
    +6
    Today, Putin said that Turkey will respond, and he knows how. It remains for us to gain patience and wait for the announcement of its decisions, to gain strength for their implementation. But in fact, each of us must by his own choice give an answer to the offenders of his country. Or is the skin road?
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  12. izya top
    izya top 3 December 2015 19: 44
    16
    miserable sight ... heartbreaking sight (s) donkey IA
    1. Tequilla
      Tequilla 3 December 2015 20: 18
      +6
      I am sure the picture is not enough jamb! )))
      1. izya top
        izya top 3 December 2015 20: 27
        +7
        Quote: Tequilla
        I am sure the picture is not enough jamb! )))

        cant do repeat
        1. 15ghost10
          15ghost10 3 December 2015 20: 41
          +2
          I think Pidorgan prefers synthetics
        2. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin 3 December 2015 20: 58
          +2
          Diameter of tension of a round muscle !? Judging by the gesture, it’s not reduced enough.
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 3 December 2015 21: 16
        +3
        Quote: Tequilla
        I am sure the picture is not enough jamb! )))


        the jamb he will beat with tomatoes will not get off .. repeat
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 3 December 2015 20: 25
      +2
      Quote: iza top
      miserable sight ... heartbreaking sight (s) donkey IA

      That's better)))
    3. DDR
      DDR 3 December 2015 20: 28
      +3
      What's this? Training oral sec. Before meeting with the black master? wassat
  13. NEXUS
    NEXUS 3 December 2015 19: 44
    +5
    The hypocrisy of the Turkish authorities is compared only with the hypocrisy of Washington.
  14. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 3 December 2015 19: 44
    +3
    No no no. And let the Turkish Foreign Ministry, and his Government, and his stinky President, let them go into the airless space. Until Erdogogondo and his nobility crawl on the belly to kiss our President’s shoes and repent, no forgiveness!
  15. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 3 December 2015 19: 45
    12
    Betrayed time PRESENT AND TWICE. negative
    To deal with such "partners" - DO NOT RESPECT YOURSELF.
  16. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 3 December 2015 19: 47
    +7
    Considering the level of Lavrov (one of the best diplomats of our time), it remains only to feel sorry for the poor oglu: he must have cursed his "national leader" a thousand times.
  17. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 3 December 2015 19: 48
    +9
    In a message to the Federal Assembly, Putin promised that Turkey would not get rid of tomatoes for the crime. I wonder what he meant?
    Maybe Erdogan will be sent to the tribunal for cooperation with the IG?
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 3 December 2015 19: 58
      +6
      Quote: olimpiada15
      Putin promised that Turkey will not get off with tomatoes for a crime

      Well, it depends on what tomatoes mean ... wink Colleague, hi !
    2. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 December 2015 20: 10
      +5
      He meant that at first he would rip off Erdogan’s tomatoes, but he won’t get away with it ..
      Although what kind of tomatoes ... pistachios ..
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  18. dr.star75
    dr.star75 3 December 2015 19: 48
    +5
    He brought the conditions of surrender.
  19. gop
    gop 3 December 2015 19: 49
    +1
    Lavrov is stupid, it was necessary to say: either Edorgan and the whole family are retiring by returning assets to the budget, or the dead do not need money
  20. denchik1977
    denchik1977 3 December 2015 19: 53
    +4
    It is absolutely not worth believing in the oaths of the Turks about friendship and cooperation in the fight against Daesh .... it looks like everything goes to the point that Russia must once and for all finally close the "Turkish question". and thereby put a fat point in relations with the heirs of the Ottoman Empire ...
  21. hawk
    hawk 3 December 2015 19: 54
    +8
    They gave t ... urk a chance to apologize. Did not get it. Wait for the revival of the Orthodox Byzantium ...
  22. pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 3 December 2015 20: 02
    +2
    But all the same - what about the nuclear power plant? will continue to build in Turkey or what?
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 3 December 2015 20: 31
      +1
      Probably, there will be nuclear power plants - a useful thing - you can put an "extra" microcircuit in the reactor's ACS, you can stick it in the "old fashioned way" - a dozen or a half CDs with penetrating b / h and start no "Status-6"! wink In place of the Turks, I would have covered this shop ...
      PS Somewhere in the press slipped that the nuclear power plant and "Turkish Stream" were not under any of our "sanctions" ...
      PPS "Loot wins everything!" (C) ... Or is it just another HPP? what
  23. Nymp
    Nymp 3 December 2015 20: 08
    14
    With the Turks, everything is clear, the clinic. By the way, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry was offended by the fact that Putin did not say a word about dill! bully
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 3 December 2015 20: 23
      +6
      Quote: Nymp
      Putin didn’t say a word about dill!

      laughing laughing !!!
      Well, yes, well, yes: they are used to being "in the spotlight"! .. So why the heck then the electricity was turned off? request Themselves to blame!
      ... oh yeah, I forgot: the Foreign Ministry of Dill "is not aware of the" energy blockade .. " lol
  24. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 3 December 2015 20: 08
    +3
    I imagined the tail was tightened ... and somewhere I ran away .. there was such a verse in our kindergarten)))
  25. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 3 December 2015 20: 16
    +4
    Fine. Not Erdogan and not DAVIDoglu, it was possible to talk with this. And then they will say - "why did you fuck up Turkey without even talking!" :)
  26. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 3 December 2015 20: 18
    10
    Quote: Nymp
    Putin didn’t say a word about dill!

    This was Putin's message of dill fellow
  27. avia1991
    avia1991 3 December 2015 20: 19
    +3
    Chavushoglu asked Lavrov not to connect the incident with the Russian bomber with the "joint struggle of Russia and Turkey against terrorism."
    Minor adjustment:
    Chavushoglu asked Lavrov not to connect the incident with the Russian bomber with “The uncompromising struggle of Russia against the terrorism of Turkey”.
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  29. shinobi
    shinobi 3 December 2015 20: 22
    +7
    I can imagine what kind of bickering is now going on with the State Department. Erdogan- "You threw me, set up!", And they told him "And you thought, and for your business, we and the Russian bear will hack to death? Are you friends with your head, or what?"
    1. cap
      cap 3 December 2015 20: 57
      +1
      The fact that the setup was clear after the meeting of the NATO party initiative.
      It was said Erdo himself justified, wipe himself.
      Therefore, he knows everything about oil, and does not want to apologize.
      Why is Lavrov being bothered? He has affairs without Turkey, according to the Adam's apple.
      All signs resemble acute diarrhea from a medical guide.
      You need to find out what he eats for breakfast. And he doesn’t eat after 18.00.
      By the way, if you even drink a spoonful of oil, you can be seriously ill.
      We are waiting for the news. hi
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 4 December 2015 05: 37
        0
        Quote: cap
        Why is Lavrov being bothered?

        To threaten the opening of the Ottoman ax of war. Apparently, the threatened person did not grow up - they went to action - they questioned the identity of the Crimea of ​​Russia)).
  30. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 3 December 2015 20: 28
    +2
    The conversation was initiated by official Ankara.
    The hat is on the thief angry !
  31. dmitrymb
    dmitrymb 3 December 2015 20: 30
    +1
    There are many sane and adequate politicians and people in Turkey. "Every family has its black sheep"...
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 3 December 2015 20: 39
      +2
      Quote: dmitrymb
      There are many sane and adequate politicians and just people in Turkey.

      ... but here the second Ataturk is not observed ..
  32. noWAR
    noWAR 3 December 2015 20: 34
    +7
    According to the old Russian tradition, every normal leader of the Russian state is obliged to give Lyuli to the Turks. We are watching Putin.
  33. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 3 December 2015 20: 35
    +3
    Erdogan runs into. Already moved to the charges. We answer purely patsansky.
    Do not make excuses.
    Do not answer questions.
    Do not break into "high" tones - stay calm.
    Continue to demand an answer to your question.
  34. SSR
    SSR 3 December 2015 20: 36
    +2
    Quote: aktanir
    or pays a heavy price for damage to Russia's authority

    A treacherous stab in the back can not in any way drop the dignity of the person who received it, and the most terrible circle of hell is betrayal.
    Circle nine, center. Traitors and traitors.
  35. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 3 December 2015 20: 48
    +4
    Quote: Mixweb
    He talks about the fight against terrorists, and they themselves support daish. Although if they fight as well as the United States, then there are no questions. They will courageously destroy all construction equipment and the terrorists will surrender in horror.

    No, now they will strenuously destroy the infrastructure of Syria, under the pretext of fighting the Iblis state. Those. on every shit along with friends from the Pentagon! It is necessary to establish a no-fly zone in Syria for the SGA bandit coalition! Otherwise, they will get rid of the "raspberries" and push everyone to Russia! am
  36. vandarus
    vandarus 3 December 2015 20: 52
    0
    And yet I would like to express regret. There are few personalities in international politics today, and Erdogan, for all that, cannot be called a jerk. Let us recall his position during the Crimean events, his refusal to support Western sanctions against Russia. We really have practically no allies. It is a pity that he became an enemy.
    1. Igor Polovodov
      Igor Polovodov 3 December 2015 21: 16
      0
      Come on, he already savored his margin, cynically covering 2 with a billion potential consumers ... Turkish tomatoes and everything else ...
  37. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 3 December 2015 20: 55
    0
    Turkey is playing its gambit, and we need to play like in "Gentlemen of Fortune."
    1. Igor Polovodov
      Igor Polovodov 3 December 2015 21: 31
      0
      And the name is corresponding "Turkish gambets" ©
  38. Chisxnumxdiman
    Chisxnumxdiman 3 December 2015 21: 16
    0
    As the main Turk said there - "All the oil of Daesh is bought by the Russian Federation." Only going through Turkey and, at the same time, does not pay customs duties to it)) lol
  39. Gunther
    Gunther 3 December 2015 21: 32
    +4
    One thing is clear - very offended)))
    Otherwise, how to explain the tantrum after the meeting with the Cavusoglu and the Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov:
    "Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that Turkey stands for the territorial integrity of Ukraine, including Crimea."
    It’s impossible to let down such a thing, we must say one more time for the genocide of Armenians in Turkey and the right of the Kurds to self-determination and the creation of the state of Kurdistan.
    1. oleg46
      oleg46 4 December 2015 07: 26
      0
      Quote: Gunter
      One thing is clear - very offended)))
      Otherwise, how to explain the tantrum after the meeting with the Cavusoglu and the Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov:
      "Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said that Turkey stands for the territorial integrity of Ukraine, including Crimea."
      It’s impossible to let down such a thing, we must say one more time for the genocide of Armenians in Turkey and the right of the Kurds to self-determination and the creation of the state of Kurdistan.

      Not bad. Will Mr. Lavrov only speak about this publicly?
  40. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 3 December 2015 21: 57
    0
    Quote: sever.56
    Quote: Tersky
    emphasized a completely different meaning: Turkish presidents can be judged and hanged ..


    Victor, hi!
    As far as I remember, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk gave the army the right to intervene in state policy and remove top state officials from management if their actions harm Turkey.
    What Erdogan and Davutoglu are doing now is different from actions that cause political, economic and image harm to Turkey, cannot be regarded. Let's hope that Erdogan interrupted and transplanted not all normal officers and there is a noose around his neck. hi

    Gave the right in the constitution of the Republic of Turkey
  41. Belarus
    Belarus 3 December 2015 21: 59
    +2
    whom is Turkey considered to be terrorists - Kurdish citizens or nevertheless Daesh fighters who are helped to sell stolen oil ...

    In fact, one-on-one, as in Ukraine, is considered by SE as those whom the Turks consider Kurds and just as well, with enviable tenacity and stupidity, continue to bend their line with the support of Washington.


    As for Turkey, after listening to the message of the GDP today, one thing became clear - the police still get theirs and how it will be unpleasant to them later. And when the GDP spoke about the response to Turkey, the camera for some reason constantly showed the Minister of Defense soldier
  42. cosmos132
    cosmos132 3 December 2015 22: 06
    -1
    Turkey losing all the wars and this one will lose, but the special forces are dying
  43. DOMINO100
    DOMINO100 3 December 2015 22: 16
    0
    the Turks will be put in place and of course they will quiet down! when everything calms down, the Turks will take up the old!
  44. atamankko
    atamankko 3 December 2015 22: 26
    0
    This is the Turkish fight against terrorism,
    no one understands them, like all traitors.
  45. Foxbed
    Foxbed 3 December 2015 22: 32
    0
    Quote: Belarus
    As for Turkey, after listening to the message of the GDP today, one thing became clear - the police still get theirs and how it will be unpleasant to them later. And when the GDP spoke about the response to Turkey, the camera for some reason constantly showed the Minister of Defense


    C: "Accidents are not accidental" .... wink
  46. VIA_56
    VIA_56 3 December 2015 22: 41
    +1
    The hypocrisy of the Turkish authorities is compared only with the hypocrisy of Washington.
    I agree! The teacher is good at teaching his subject.
    To the question, is there anyone to believe, I will answer positively! There is - his army and navy!
    And so that the Turks do not gurgle on the topic of who sells oil to anyone, the answer is clear, like a white day: We must definitely smash the columns of oil carriers, and the best thing is to sink the tankers at sea.
  47. Teplohod
    Teplohod 3 December 2015 22: 45
    0
    Suppose a Turk said: "The topic is this, but we buy oil from terrorists, process it into aviation fuel, supply it to the coalition to bomb terrorists, but what did you think?"
  48. Love
    Love 3 December 2015 22: 52
    +1
    Quote: ia-ai00
    Betrayed time PRESENT AND TWICE. negative

    Betrayed Time - P.E.D.E.R.A.T.T. AND TWICE!
  49. Prutkov
    Prutkov 3 December 2015 23: 01
    +1
    It's all strange. In Turkey, not the president "rules", but the prime minister, according to the constitution. Erdogan ruled before the elections. Now another "sultan" is Davutoglu. And it is possible that Erdogan and Davutoglu, like VVP with a LADY, seem to work together, but look in different directions. Namely, the prime minister threatened to shoot down the plane if the Turkomans were bombed. We somehow, out of habit, associate everything with Erdogan (for so many years of his premiership). Yes, and the military has a grudge against Erdogan for all the landings. The Turkish military, trained in American schools, do not differ with special love for Russia. Rather, even the opposite. It looks like we are looking for a black cat in the wrong room ...
    1. Kirgoudou
      Kirgoudou 5 December 2015 02: 21
      0
      Looking, who is this?
      Judging by the flag, you are a citizen of an independent ...
      I would understand the red flag.
      And so ...
      What side do you rant for Russia then?
  50. krivoalexk
    krivoalexk 3 December 2015 23: 12
    +2
    At this stage of time, there can be no joint business with Turkey. A country that supports terrorism cannot be with us in the same team.