Turks are unhappy that the Saratov BDK did not raise the "guest" flag when passing through the Bosphorus

When passing through the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, the large landing ship of the Russian Navy "Saratov" did not raise the so-called "guest" flag. We are talking about the flag of Turkey. A photograph of a Russian warship without a raised “guest” Turkish flag is presented by Turkish media and bloggers. Turkish websites write that BDK "Saratov" delivers special cargo to the logistics base of the Russian Navy in Syrian Tartus.

Turkish blogger Alper boler writes that the Russian warship "did not express courtesy and did not raise the Turkish flag next to the St. Andrew's flag", as "they demand tradition."

The interesting thing is this: Turkish bloggers paid attention only to the fact that the “guest” flag was missing from the Russian large landing craft. Although, for example, today the Dardanelles passed the NATO ship WINNIPEG FFH338 (Canada).

And over them, too, it is difficult to see the waving flag of Turkey as a demonstration that the ship passes the straits in the “guest mode” ... Or are the Turks Canada and its North American neighbor not long considered guests in Turkey? ..

Comments

[gop]

offended and cried

[Sasha 19871987]

hypocrites ... I have not picked up the words of others ... PS for a mat for banned !!!

[Gani]

Sorry, but I will add to you) -President of Turkey Tayyip Erdogan stated that his country has evidence of Russia's alleged involvement in oil trading with the Islamic State terrorist group. article on vz dot ru

[asar]

Yes, went fart at zh.opu!
And raising the flag is a lot of honor!
Let them rub off!

[bubalik]

Yes, went fart at zh.opu!
And raising the flag is a lot of honor!
Let them rub off!

... I don’t know the truth, no but on the net walking with 30.11 is this:

Our BDK has now passed the straits and did not raise the Turkish flag to a gaffle.
Andeevsky raised to the top.
We have shown that we do not respect their jurisdiction over the straits.
Yes, and the straits passed on combat alert. Everything is bullied and uncovered. Everyone would just ram.
The Turks shawal silently diving into the vat with shit ...

[Throw]

They didn’t raise it well, let them rejoice that they had not yet shown something ...

[garik191]

Just the Turkish flag was wildly busy - they wiped it

[garik191]

Just the Turkish flag was wildly busy - they wiped it

[oleg46]

Quote: bubalik

The Turks shawal silently diving into the vat with shit.

Great if so!

[Drmadfisher]

and over the Erdogan the Janissary with the sword, like this all day in and dives

[Lexa-149]

Позволю себе процитировать "Доцента" из "Джентельменов удачи": "ТАК ТО В ТУРЦИИ!ТАМ ТЕПЛО!"

[sharp-lad]

The guest flag is hoisted in honor of the state in whose waters the ship is located, and not in honor of the leadership of this state! I do not know if this rule applies to warships.

[The black]

В доказательство покажут как кто-то очень смуглый с бородой покажет фото Путина и скажет "имупрадавал" )))
Потом потупив взор добавит "мамойклинус"

[svp67]

Quote: Gani

that his country has evidence

ну не найдут, так "нарисуют". Делов то. Что в первый раз, что ли

[svp67]

Quote: sasha 19871987

hypocrites ...

Yeah ... stating

что как того "требуют традиции".

они сами напрашиваются на то, что "традиции требуют" нам получить полное удовлетворение от Турции, за наш сбитый самолет...

[_Vladislav_]

не поднял рядом с Андреевским флагом флаг турецкий", как того "требуют традиции".

Tradition is a legal non-binding element.
In addition, raising the flag of the state through the fault of which two of our citizens died, this would be superfluous.

PS
As an apology, Turkey - could raise the Russian flag over Constantinople. That would be normal.

[the most important]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Turkey - could raise the Russian flag over Constantinople.

No need to hope for anyone ... It is necessary to raise the flag of Russia over Constantinople yourself!

[Old warrior]

Over Tsargrad. What do you call him gayly?

[Stanislas]

Quote: Old Warrior

What do you call him gayly?

Byzantium is not a geyropa!

[ydjin]

Quote: _Vladislav_

не поднял рядом с Андреевским флагом флаг турецкий", как того "требуют традиции".

Tradition is a legal non-binding element.
In addition, raising the flag of the state through the fault of which two of our citizens died, this would be superfluous.

PS
As an apology, Turkey - could raise the Russian flag over Constantinople. That would be normal.

I agree with you! What marks of honor should be given to scum who have lost their honor? Turks, pid .... aram hands do not raise!

[oleg46]

Quote: _Vladislav_

As an apology, Turkey - could raise the Russian flag over Constantinople. That would be normal.

Soon we will raise ourselves. Then, however, it will be Greek. But they will be friendly to us.

[SergGrey318]

And rename it to Constantinople!
Прямо так и вижу табличку "Tsar'grad"

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: SergGrey318

And rename it to Constantinople!

And Moscow is no longer the king? not the head of Russia? Moreover, the Tsar comes from Caesar, the emperor, whose birth, in order to save the empress and offspring, had to have a section of the abdomen, during the operation the face of the child was dissected, therefore he received the nickname Caesar, later Caesar - the king. From this cesarean section. There was still not enough capital to transfer to Istanbul.

[tehnic]

And ours on their ship, could put the gallows for Erdogan.

[KAV]

Они, простите, иди-ты, или только прикидываются?? Какой еще "гостевой" флаг?! Блин. Хочу что-нибудь написать, а не могу... выходят только сильно нецензурные выражения...

[Major Yurik]

The flag with the middle finger raised is what you need to hang on the flagpole of Russian ships when passing by Turkland!

[AlexTires]

Quote: Major Yurik

Flag with a raised middle finger - in

Цитата6 "...До десяти часов на мачте висел флаг «х.е.р» ...."

[Vend]

This is a little prank compared to a downed plane.

[cniza]

Quote: Major Yurik

The flag with the middle finger raised is what you need to hang on the flagpole of Russian ships when passing by Turkland!

It’s not ours, we must abandon the gestures that came from the United States, and it’s too small ... we need our way — to the elbow.

[Slavapom]

And at the next passage of the straits, it is possible to uncover the combat systems and direct the side of the coast. It’s interesting that they will sing then.

[sherp2015]

Quote: Slavapom

And at the next passage of the straits, it is possible to uncover the combat systems and direct the side of the coast. It’s interesting that they will sing then.

Petro the 1st, in my opinion, once passed the Bosphorus ... And with a salute, if I'm not mistaken ...

[MIST096]

They are just fagots

[The black]

The Turks, on the contrary, should be satisfied, the landing ship passed by ... Ah, yet in the history of Russian-Turkish relations, the best diplomat was still Suvorov

[yurgis68]

Добавлю, и Федор Федорович!!! УШАК Паша, как с "любовью" называли эти турецкие вонючки. Много чести, чтобы развивался кровавый флаг с Андреевским стягом. А с берега доносились приглушенные крики:... сюда ,не проходите мимо

[akmalinin]

This summer, a cargo ship flying a convenient flag (I don’t remember exactly) but with the Ukrainian crew headed to Mariupal through the Kerch Strait without the flag of Russia raised, our captain contacted traffic control and informed about this unfriendly act with a proposal to return the vessel back to the raid to wait for the passage line , traffic said we’ll figure it out and after 4-5 minutes the flag was raised.
PS The fact that there was a Ukrainian crew was heard on the radio talks, I myself heard a ball on a watch.

[The black]

Next time, it would be necessary to give a salvo of all guns

[guzik007]

It was necessary to raise the flag in hand-drawn facings.

[sherman1506]

Well or so, shake the bastards.

[fan_]

It looks like the flag of Arkhangelsk, with a small addition in the center

[Persistent]

He just lowered the Turkish flag very low in memory of our dead guys !!!!

I propose henceforth to all the Russian Navy to do so !!!!

[Egor Sergeevich]

Oh, and I would draw on the flag, not a skull - no, another organ!

[Lexa-149]

... AND THE Tears SIZED WITH A FIST, WATERED ON THEIR SHAVED CHEES ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

let them get used to the guest faku ...

[Russian063]

Не, ну я понимаю, "морские традиции". Но стоит требовать их :
The first one. FROM all, from this side ours didn’t do well.
Второе. Сложно требовать "уверений в дружбе" и "почтения к хозяевам", каковыми и является "флаг дружбы", от страны, которой "гадят в карман" и действиям которой, хозяева всячески мешают.

[venaya]

российский военный корабль "не выразил любезности и не поднял рядом с Андреевским флагом флаг турецкий", как того "требуют традиции".

I think they did not understand who the guests were. If they believe that they are Americans, then I think that they should be convinced of this.

[gjv]

Quote: venaya

If they believe that they are Americans, then I think that they should be convinced of this.

Сейчас в Мраморном море идут к Босфору наши сухогрузы "Сормовский 3053" и "Валерий Коков". Их преследуют канадский фрегат Виннипег (FFH 338), португальский фрегат Francisco de Almeida (F334) и неопознанный испанский военный корабль. Заходят по левому борту, обгоняют.

[sherp2015]

Quote: gjv

Сейчас в Мраморном море идут к Босфору наши сухогрузы "Сормовский 3053" и "Валерий Коков". Их преследуют канадский фрегат Виннипег (FFH 338), португальский фрегат Francisco de Almeida (F334) и неопознанный испанский военный корабль. Заходят по левому борту, обгоняют.

And what do these stinkers, Anglo-Sax litter on the port side need?

[3officer]

Сейчас в Мраморном море идут к Босфору наши сухогрузы "Сормовский 3053" и "Валерий Коков". Их преследуют канадский фрегат Виннипег (FFH 338), португальский фрегат Francisco de Almeida (F334) и неопознанный испанский военный корабль. Заходят по левому борту, обгоняют.[/quote]

"Преследуют".. эти старые река-море баржи может обогнать не только фрегат,но и педальный катамаран.

[Alexnder]

Well latrines not emptied ....

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Alexnder

Well latrines not emptied ....

Are you sure about that?
I'm not here ...

[Alexnder]

Well, we understood each other :)

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Alexnder

Well, we understood each other :)

Of course!
My son-in-law on one of the landing ships (on which one - I will not say!) Walks. On vacation I ask around ....

[2s1122]

Ask the son-in-law of the Russian national anthem to cut the loudness when passing through the straits

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: 2s1122

Ask the son-in-law of the Russian national anthem to cut the loudness when passing through the straits

Тогда уж лучше "Прощание славянки"...в незабываемом исполнении Гены - "Янычара"...

[2s1122]

Это по типу как Задорнов расказывал про латышей из сс,которые под "Прощание славянки" начали чиканить шаг,гансы хреновы

[shasherin.pavel]

When I saw this in the news, I thought that someone in the studio pinned, but then I heard Zadornova at the concert, I would not regret this 5 000 harmonist if he played FUNERAL after the Slav.

[Old warrior]

Рассказывал мне как-то однокурсник, служил на Северном флоте: где-то на рубеже 70-х - 80-х годов, всплывает рядом с нашим БДК фрг-ская подводная лодка и давай корабль на фотоаппараты снимать( в те времена про "сэлфи" никто и слыхом не слыхивал), а Замполит, не будь .даёт приказ - киноэкран на борт и и хронику "Разгром немцев под Сталинградом"... как же та лодка нырнула!...

[AlexTires]

Турки не поднимают "гостевой" флаг входя в терводы Греции и взаимно... И вообще, если мне не изменяет память, гостевой флаг над военными кораблями вроде-бы может не подниматься.

[shasherin.pavel]

Then the question is: is it not a good form if our ships in the strait do not welcome guests on the shore, if guests from the shore do not welcome our ships?

[Egevich]

only 27 kilometers separated our troops from Istanbul ... only 27, Karl! .. eh, b

[venaya]

Yes, so sorry! And what was to be done, the British fleet was already sticking out in the strait. And how many problems could they give us at that time?

[shasherin.pavel]

And how much would he grumble in the strait if the Russian tricolor were raised on the shore? For coal, you still had to leave the strait, and they would not have sold the water from the shore.

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Egevich

total 27, Karl! ..

Sorry, I could not resist ...
All the advantages for this are yours.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: podpolkovnik

All the advantages for this are yours.

not in a hurry?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Egevich

only 27 kilometers separated our troops from Istanbul ... only 27, Karl! .. eh, b

Well, there were ours, in Paris, in Berlin, in Vienna, yes in all capitals, so what?

[izya top]

okay at least not called names offensively

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: iza top

okay at least not called names offensively

Хорошо, что еще не делали, как в фильме "К-19", когда к ним вертолет прилетал....все помнят, какую часть тела показывали?

[2s1122]

Yes, you don’t have to show your ass, but the mooring end

[kill the fascist]

Turks are such Turks :)
now inadequate will look for specks in the eyes of others

[Dezinto]

tint would not hurt

...... latin Turkish coast .....

[VohaAhov]

The flag is hoisted as a sign of respect for the state in whose cords the ship is located. No respect - no flag !!!

[Hiw]

Well, we hoped that you would be offended, didn’t specifically raise that now ...... we’ll also be offended, the Russians don’t take offense, it’s counterproductive, the Russians are furious, and from our fury, believe me, your hiccup will not go away for a long time. his betrayal

[sl22277]

Raise the guest flag, the country that hits from the back. Or greet the traitors-killers ?! In my opinion this is already too ....

[ML-334]

They didn’t hang it out, they didn’t respect it, they hung it out, they would call it cynical, because they didn’t respect it but they hung it out. It’s so guilty. Viva Russia.

[WUA 518]

The large landing ships "Azov" and "Saratov" of the Black Sea Fleet, passing the Bosphorus in the direction of the Black Sea at about 9:00 on February 4, 2013, should arrive in Novorossiysk on the afternoon of February 5, which is why I do not see the guest flag either.

[Saratovets]

One question, why are they so rusty then?

[Vadim237]

Because they began to plow like on tractors - there is no time for cosmetic repairs.

[Jozhkin Cat]

there is no time to paint them; they are like meteors.

[Captain45]

Цитата: Йожкин Кот

there is no time to paint them; they are like meteors.

На "Сделано у нас" сегодня статью читал про "сирийский экспресс",там график есть в какие дни,какие корабли в Сирию ходили.Судя по графику время в порту только на погрузку-разгрузку,да заправку.

[Mareman Vasilich]

This is a normal workflow. And in all the fleets of the world. If necessary, they can be painted in front of any port, everything is on the ship. But it’s not rusty yet, it’s more than a normal look. When I served in the north in the early 90s, I didn’t see such people.

[Vadim237]

The Dead Sea also eats ships well.

[Captain45]

Quote: Vadim237

The Dead Sea also eats ships well.

Sorry, but is shipping open in the Dead Sea?

[Vadim237]

I have cut off the ships - just boats and boats.

[DOMINO100]

)))))))) hammer. well noticed!

[DOMINO100]

Well, they still saw Lenin)))

[ILIA]

We are not guests, we are at all))))))))))))))))

[NEXUS]

Quote: ILIA

We are not guests, we are at all))))))))))))))))

Turkey, through its actions, ensured the presence of our troops in the Middle East for many years to come, as well as through its stupid actions, de facto, gave the legitimate right to find our Mediterranean squadron on a permanent basis in those waters. And this is only the beginning.
And let them wipe their flag. They will not see this rag on our ships in the coming decades.

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Quote: NEXUS

Turkey, through its actions, ensured the presence of our troops in the Middle East for many years to come, as well as through its stupid actions, de facto, gave the legitimate right to find our Mediterranean squadron on a permanent basis in those waters. And this is only the beginning.

If it weren’t for our dead guys, we could assume that we will have much more from a downed plane than we lost.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Mikhail Krapivin

If it weren’t for our dead guys, we could assume that we will have much more from a downed plane than we lost.

Да,это так.Но наши погибшие ребята и 224 невинных души,поперек глотки встанут всей этой своре :Турции,Катару,Саудовской Аравии,ну и очень хочется верить ,что и главному "пакемону"США.
Judging by the speech of the GDP at the National Assembly, his memory is long and he is not going to forget anything.

[Altona]

Curiously, in the late 70s, Turkey stated that it was considering closing the passage through the Bosphorus to the Mediterranean for warships of the Soviet Union.

To this statement, Comrade Gromyko Andrei Andreevich (USSR Foreign Minister from 1957 to 1985) told American journalists at a cocktail party at the White House that for a passage to the Mediterranean, the USSR Black Sea Fleet would need only a couple of volleys of missiles. As a result of this, in addition to the Bosphorus, two more passages will appear in the Mediterranean, but, alas, there will be no Istanbul. After these words, Turkey never again raised the issue of closing the Bosphorus to the warships of the USSR. Maybe the time has come for Russia to remind Ankara about this again?

[Tatar 174]

Too much honor for the Turks.

[Andryukha G]

Yes, we are not visiting, we are for permanent residence.

[Reserve buildbat]

Turkobesy cannot consider their owners as guests. And they scream about our ships only because they forgot their place, mongrel

[mpzss]

"гостевой" флаг... просто надо сделать так, что бы турки поднимали Андреевский флаг, проплывая по этим проливам...

[AlexTires]

Quote: mpzss

"гостевой" флаг... просто надо сделать так, что бы турки поднимали Андреевский флаг, проплывая по этим проливам...

I think if so, then the Turks will remain only in the myths and legends of the peoples of the world

[VNP1958PVN]

Yes, let them rejoice, that the landing did not drop ...

[rotmistr60]

"didn't show courtesy и не поднял рядом с Андреевским флагом флаг турецкий"

О какой любезности может идти речь? Может вам еще "Яблочко" станцевать?

[Engineer]

They do not give the military a worthy answer, but the insult only accumulates from this and it comes out in such moments. When passing the straits, our sailors should not raise the Turkish guest flag, but uncover the cannons and rocket launchers.

[dchegrinec]

Offended, I want to see them, at least someone bowed, so that everything would not be so sad!

[Bourgeois]

Пусть радуются, что "Саратов" не поприветствовал их из А-215 «Град-М»))))
Salute of nations in 21 NURS))) then it would be fun))

[Shooting]

They looked bad. The flag was raised, but under the keel.

It would be better if they worried about the future of their country. The hosts will merge without options. There will be no normal relations with us for a long time, if at all. Inside is a complete mess.

Here, all Syria is divided into controlled territories. It wouldn’t work out like that with Turkey, that’s the question. There are many who wish. Kurds, Armenia, Russia, Greece, but whoever wants to. Again, you can share with Japan, otherwise they stuck to the Kuril Islands, let them take the Black Sea coast. And they used to feel warmth and Russia at their fingertips :)

[U-96]

So what? a week ago, BDK Korolev also did not raise the guest.

[uav80]

Raising the guest flag is just a tradition, and not rarely the tradition of changing, as our ship demonstrated ...

[sereginaleks]

And which flag expresses contempt and disrespect?

[Rroman]

That's how it is.

[zekaze1980]

Arrange them with a single salute from cannons, so that they do

[kenig1]

That's right, it is the Turks who are hosted. They came from the desert, there and return.

[iouris]

Удивляет неадекватная реакция на каждый чих "заграницы". Кроме того, блогер - лицо неофициальное. Проливы не турецкие. Это результат многих войн, которые вели наши предки.

[Saratovets]

As a Saratovets, I am proud of the action of our sailors))

[Polite Moose]

When passing through the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, the large landing ship of the Russian Navy “Saratov” did not raise the so-called “guest” flag.

Правильно сделали на "Саратове". Пусть турки видят в этом недобрый для себя знак.

[RUSOIVAN]

well ... let them express concern or something ...

[gg.na]

Turks are unhappy that the Saratov BDK did not raise the "guest" flag when passing through the Bosphorus

Не ну что за дела то?! Пусть радуются что "САРАТОВ" не стал приветствовать их там из ВСЕХ стволов что есть на этом кораблике!!! That would be fun for the mind !!!

[Urals]

But didn’t you forget about the tradition of getting the Lyuley of the Turks? It was necessary to hang a fart on the mast.

[demandy1]

Пусть довольствуются тем, что с корабля ни кто "погостить" не высадился, а то за нами не заржавеет!

[Fonmeg]

Турецкий блогер Alper Boler пишет о том, что российский военный корабль "не выразил любезности и не поднял рядом с Андреевским флагом флаг турецкий"

At the moment, we can give the Türkeshes for the evil they have done only one courtesy - TO GIVE WELL IN THE FOREBOARD, no more.

[3officer]

You can make a new tradition - instead of raising the Turkish flag in the straits - to plan a demonstrative emptying of the fecal tank during passage

[sergo1914]

Надо было "Веселого Роджера"...

[Koshak]

You got ahead of me!

[VasiliyKhilkov]

"не выразил любезности и не поднял... флаг турецкий", как того "требуют традиции"
It’s time to change these traditions.

[Belousov]

And the bow of the earth should not have been weighed yet?

[fransys.drake]

The sailors did everything right! We had to think about traditions and rules when our guys were shot down!

[v.yegorov]

Or have the Turks of Canada and its North American neighbor not been considered guests in Turkey for a long time? ..

It’s just that Canadians have the third grade in the Turks, therefore they don’t consider it necessary
to demonstrate the flag of some natives next to their own.

[okroshka79]

Рискую быть заминусованным нашими уря-патриотами, но выскажу свое личное мнение. Вообще-то, то, что наш БДК "Саратов" не поднял государственный флаг Турции при проходе Черноморских проливов - это не есть хорошо. Порядок, как бы нам не хотелось, надо соблюдать. Это требование международного морского права. Думаю, что командира корабля за это командование ВМФ не поблагодарит. Да и вой турецких СМИ ни к чему. По такой ура-логике не было бы никакого смысла встречаться сегодня нашему министру иностранных дел С.Лаврову со своим турецким коллегой. Но он, тем не менее встречается. Правда, государственный флаг государства, в чьих территориальных водах находится корабль несется не на флагштоке и не на гафеле, как Андреевский флаг, а на правом ноке рея фок-мачты. Мне довелось пять раз проходить на военном корабле Черноморские проливы и государственный флаг Турции всегда поднимался.

[Egevich]

Quote: okroshka79

Рискую быть заминусованным нашими уря-патриотами, но выскажу свое личное мнение. Вообще-то, то, что наш БДК "Саратов" не поднял государственный флаг Турции при проходе Черноморских проливов - это не есть хорошо. Порядок, как бы нам не хотелось, надо соблюдать. Это требование международного морского права. Думаю, что командира корабля за это командование ВМФ не поблагодарит. Да и вой турецких СМИ ни к чему. По такой ура-логике не было бы никакого смысла встречаться сегодня нашему министру иностранных дел С.Лаврову со своим турецким коллегой. Но он, тем не менее встречается. Правда, государственный флаг государства, в чьих территориальных водах находится корабль несется не на флагштоке и не на гафеле, как Андреевский флаг, а на правом ноке рея фок-мачты. Мне довелось пять раз проходить на военном корабле Черноморские проливы и государственный флаг Турции всегда поднимался.

military people do nothing without a team ...

[The black]

Well, why minus you? По сути ты прав. А то что многие пишут, в том числе и я "дать приветственный залп из всех орудий"....так это стёб.Так что....плюсую...

[Dam]

Well, we do not respect the Turks, do not respect.

[pvv113]

Or have the Turks of Canada and its North American neighbor not been considered guests in Turkey for a long time? ..

It seems to Turks all over the world no one has respect

[veksha50]

"Турки недовольны тем, что БДК "Саратов" при проходе через Босфор не поднял "гостевой" флаг".

Respect to the commander of the ship !!!

I don’t know, maybe, the authorities would fool him and Lyuli hanged him for such a proud and rebellious manifestation of his attitude towards the Turks, but I would only thank him ...

Man, one word !!!

[CRASH]

We’ll be scolded for the camera, saying that it’s blah blah blah not according to the charter, we’ll deprive the prize, but they’ll pour a shot behind the camera and they will drink for the captain! And retroactively accrue premium)

[okroshka79]

Кстати, для уважаемого podpolkovnik! В действительности, когда наша ПЛ "К-19" всплыла после аварии в надводное положение, то к ней в течение всего времени, пока ее не взяли на буксир и не повели в базу, ни один НАТОвский корабль не подошел и ни один НАТОВский самолет или вертолет не облетел. Совершенно придуманный эпизод из американского боевика.