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IDB Developer: “American Philosophy of Global Impact — Outright Foolishness”

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The concept of a global strike developed in the United States, which implies the rapid destruction of the enemy’s nuclear potential, is impracticable in practice, RIA News Statement by Yury Solomonov, General Designer, Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering.




According to this concept, from the territory of America non-nuclear high-precision strike using hypersonic carriers is applied to targets throughout the world. All targets must be destroyed, approximately within an hour after launch.

“The American philosophy of global strike is frankly stupid, because the time is very long — cause irreparable damage for an hour. But existing systems detect flying objects in 5-10 flight minutes. This is already a war, these systems cannot be used ”,
said the general designer, who led the development of rockets "Topol", "Yars", "Bulava", etc.

Meanwhile, this idea is replicated, and Americans spend a lot of money on it.

According to Solomonov, “a global blow will not be implemented in practice, but some fragments are valuable for other developments, for advancing engineering thought, including in the civilian industry.”

He noted that "a quick global strike is not the first impracticable military concept developed in the United States."

“The Americans in the implementation of the strategic defense initiative (SDI) could not do anything except the scam, which was unmasked by US Congress in 1989, and those from the US Department of Defense, who frankly lied, were simply imprisoned. And the USSR reacted, took it at face value and spent huge amounts of money to fend off these tales, ”the designer added.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 3 December 2015 08: 30 New
    10
    “The American philosophy of global strike is frankly stupid, because the time is very long — cause irreparable damage for an hour. But existing systems detect flying objects in 5-10 flight minutes. This is already a war, these systems cannot be used ”,


    Cut the money and no more, well, and the military-industrial complex will fatten.

    “The Americans in the implementation of the strategic defense initiative (SDI) could not do anything except the scam, which was unmasked by US Congress in 1989, and those from the US Department of Defense, who frankly lied, were simply imprisoned. And the USSR reacted, took it at face value and spent huge amounts of money to fend off these tales, ”the designer added.
    1. sannych
      sannych 3 December 2015 08: 48 New
      72
      I think that the "global strike" is designed for a situation when in Russia (we have no doubt that the main target for such a strike is our country) as a result of any actions (coup, another orange revolution, death or assassination of Putin, etc.) a person like Navalny will come to power (the name is taken from the ceiling, the meaning is clear), who will not dare (will not want) to respond to the United States with a "strike of retaliation." Americans will no longer repeat the mistake of the 90s, when they celebrated victory in the Cold War, believing that such a state as Russia no longer de facto exists. They will beat to exclude the slightest likelihood of even a hypothetical appearance in the country of Putin 2.0. Having inflicted this blow, having seized the remnants of nuclear weapons and other weapons (except for small arms for the local police), they will further "cooperate" with the new leadership of the country, dividing and dismembering Russia, establishing not only a disguised (as under Yeltsin), but also actually issued colonial external control. I think so.
      1. andre
        andre 3 December 2015 08: 54 New
        10
        What, and submarines flop? And the missile defense system for submarines does not work.
        1. andre
          andre 3 December 2015 08: 55 New
          +1
          Or rather am against submarines
        2. cap
          cap 3 December 2015 09: 21 New
          +4
          He actually served in the "artillery" in SOI times.
          The picture of "underground COSSACKS" when reading this SOI theory, reminded of "Letter to the Turkish Sultan"
          And easier "RZHUNIMOGU".
          At the same time, a parable was born about how "the felt boot ended up on the remote control." Because everyone wore sandals. bully
        3. region58
          region58 3 December 2015 11: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: andre
          the missile defense system does not work.

          The first two missile defense position areas in Alaska and California, the third are trying to cut down in Europe (they have already done a lot), "Aegis" on destroyers - this is according to the situation. And all this is against the already launched ICBMs or their warheads, and where they started from is the tenth thing ...
        4. Angryvinny
          Angryvinny 3 December 2015 13: 06 New
          0
          But on them work submarines that fall on the tail of our SSBNs. And like a tail weave from behind.
        5. opus
          opus 3 December 2015 17: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: andre
          What, and submarines flop?

          every submarine is grazed by a hunter (multipurpose strike submarine SSN - Ship Submarine Nuclear), or even two.
          Tries anyway.
          As soon as the nuclear submarines with ICBMs emerge to the launch depth (50m) and prepare to launch (this is heard), and even if the hype in the world, the nuclear submarines with ICBMs are destroyed (they are trying to destroy, by any means, up to the ram)
          There are a lot of boards, not very ICBM carriers (contract)
          Only SSN-688 (SSN-688i) -40 (forty!) Pieces, but there are also:
          Type Sivulf, Type Virginia (USA)
          Type "Trafalgar", Type "Astyut" (UK)
          Type "Ryubi", Type "Barracuda" (France)


          Quote: andre
          And the missile defense system for submarines does not work.

          So it is called: Missile defense DEFENSE( National Missile Defense NMD)
          And not anti-submarine.
          and missile defense, theoretically, on the drum which carrier launched an ICBM (RSD, KR): nuclear submarine, MK "Topol-M", or Shakhtnaya R-36M!
          It (PRO) is important WHERE (goal)
          1. mvg
            mvg 3 December 2015 20: 36 New
            +1
            every submarine is grazed by a hunter

            I support. In Russia, there are no more than 4-6 SSBNs on combat patrols, the rest are either in repair (planned) or resting .. Usually this is 30-40% of the total number of strategic boats.
            The USA has about 40 Los Angeles, 10-virginia, 3 Sea Wolf. Britain has Astyut 2 in service, 4-5 are under construction (no worse than Si-Wolfe). France has about the same.
            And the question is, where do you think they go about their campaigns ... Do not they look at the periscope of naked negroes on the beaches of Miami?
            30-40 pcs in the campaign for 5-6 of ours, the ratio is 1:10 .. There is a chance, and not a small one, that none of 5-6 will have time to shoot.
            They draw at the exit from the base and then "graze" passing each other. And their sonar station is more perfect than that of a strategist.
            PS: I also agree with missile defense. But not so critical ..
      2. cniza
        cniza 3 December 2015 08: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: sannych
        I think so.



        Such a scenario is not ruled out, but it seems to me that there is a lot if and I hope that everything is already taken into account and thought out.
      3. serg6978
        serg6978 3 December 2015 09: 27 New
        +2
        I agree with you. Then there will be a scenario as in Syria they will pump resources from a fragmented country with the support of militants.
      4. WKS
        WKS 3 December 2015 10: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: sannych
        a man like Navalny will come to power (the name is taken from the ceiling, the meaning is clear), who will not dare (will not want) to respond to the United States with a "strike of retaliation."

        Even in this scenario, the United States will not make this strike against Russia. There is a great risk of getting an answer in this case too. The author of the article is right that all this is most likely a PR company and in reality the potential for such a "global strike" is nuclear countries of the scale of Israel or North Korea. But the countries of the level of Pakistan, China or India no longer exist.
    2. Dembel77
      Dembel77 3 December 2015 08: 52 New
      16
      Meanwhile, this idea is replicated, and Americans spend a lot of money on it
      Ha! Americans are spending! This whole world spends its money on their criminal adventures, because it is no secret that the whole world is already more or less dependent on US finances. Therefore, the first, do not succumb to provocations (like star wars), and the second - get rid of dollar dependence.
      1. Vend
        Vend 3 December 2015 09: 34 New
        +1
        "The American Philosophy of Global Impact - Outright Stupidity"
        Only about this silence. Not a word to anyone. Let the mattresses continue to be in their fantasies.
        1. Angryvinny
          Angryvinny 3 December 2015 13: 09 New
          +1
          Metal ships cannot sail !!!
          The earth is flat !!!
          Devices heavier than air cannot fly !!!
          For a personal computer, there is enough memory at 250 MB !!!
          And how many more "smart" statements were.
          Silence further ...
  2. venaya
    venaya 3 December 2015 08: 30 New
    11
    The American philosophy of global shock is sheer stupidity, because the time is very long - to cause irreparable damage within an hour. But existing systems detect flying objects after 5-10 minutes of flight

    As always - Goebels TV in action. The main task is to catch up with more hysteria as much as possible, and the fact that adequate action is possible for each action is, of course, silent about this, it is not profitable;
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 3 December 2015 09: 15 New
      11
      It's not even a matter of opposition. A hypersonic warhead IN PRINCIPLE, these are only three options: 1) maneuvering blocks of normal ICBMs (we have already implemented them on Bulava and Yars), that is, launching ICBMs, 2) a "normal" scramjet engine that requires a supersonic carrier for its launch, which, firstly, are few, and secondly - they are very noticeable in such a quantity, 3) "multi-mode" scramjet, which no one has close to. And in the short term, not even prototypes are visible. Even in the number of units, it would be a huge breakthrough, since it would allow to enter low orbits cheaply.
      We add that there is still no reliably working model of the scramjet engine. A combat unit with it will be an order of magnitude more expensive than an "ax", at least, and in the beginning - so generally every fifty. The program is an order of magnitude more complicated than the "F-35", and they do not go fast with this station wagon. I am glad that Solomonov said the same thing that I did, and with the same words: a swindle in the manner of SDI, only now no one will believe it. And work on the scramjet is certainly necessary. This is roughly like the transition to jet aircraft.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 3 December 2015 10: 12 New
        +1
        The prototype of the multi-mode scramjet is already being tested in the UK, for the Skylon airspace plane - in 2025 they promise the first flight.
      2. opus
        opus 3 December 2015 18: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Azitral
        Hypersonic warhead IN PRINCIPLE, these are only three options: 1) maneuvering blocks of normal ICBMs (we have already implemented them on Bulava and Yars), that is, ICBM launch, 2)

        hypersonic BB (LA) implies a flight in the Earth’s atmosphere (up to the Karman line — where the air density is so low that an aircraft with an arbitrarily large wing should move at the first cosmic speed (approximately 8 km / s) so as not to fall .) USING DU LA (BB).
        And the fact that you are "singing" (on the basis of the nonsense of Izvestia and others) "we have already implemented on the Bulava and Yars" is a flight in the atmosphere under the influence of the Earth's gravity (En) and gained during acceleration (lifting ) ICBM Ek.
        to the GPZ LA (BB), and it has nothing to do with it.
        for your information, on our maneuvering ICBM warheads there are single-component rocket engines with PERPENDICULAR thrust for the flight vector (pulse frequency of not more than 1 per second, number of not more than 300)

        Quote: Azitral
        And in the short term, even prototypes are not visible.

        Yes Yes....
        1. Almost (it all depends on what is considered a GPZ) GPZ LA (ICBM) "Tempest" Lavochkin


        2. OCD theme "Gnome"


        3.GPZ LA, University of Queensland's: HyShot

        HyShot 1 - UQ 2-D scramjet. Failed launch due to rocket fin puncture by a rock on the landing pad.
        HyShot 2 - UQ 2-D scramjet. Successful, July 30, 2002
        HyShot 3-7 - NASA tests. Canceled after announcement of manned Mars mission. [Citation needed]
        HyShot 8 (Now known as HyShot III) - QinetiQ 4-chamber scramjet. Successful, March 25, 2006.
        HyShot 9 (Now known as HyShot IV) - JAXA launch of UQ 2D scramjet with JAXA hypermixer. Successful, March 30, 2006.
        HyShot 10 - HyCAUSE - DSTO scramjet. Successful June 15, 2007.

        4.X-43A Hypersonic Scramjet Flight 2 9a how many are there?) Highlights Mach 7 2004 The NASA Langley-Dryden Hyper-X Program is Hollywood bullshit, right?
        1. opus
          opus 3 December 2015 18: 29 New
          0
          Quote: Azitral
          I'm glad that Solomonov said the same thing as I did in the same words: cheating in the manner of SDI, only now no one will believe.

          Yes Yes...
          Lysenko also spoke about genetics ("genetics is the corrupt girl of imperialism")
          Total? We import 98% of modern drug stems, like seeds
          about cybernetics ("cybernetics is the corrupt girl of imperialism")
          The bottom line? "Great country, and sit on four hundred megahertz. And those are not ours."/
          V. Pelevin. "Generation" P ""
  3. sa-zz
    sa-zz 3 December 2015 08: 31 New
    13
    Our "sawers", in comparison with striped ones, have a rest.
    They are good marketers - the main thing to present is to advertise.
    1. zekaze1980
      zekaze1980 3 December 2015 08: 37 New
      +1
      One Serdyukov is worth
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Riv
        Riv 3 December 2015 09: 13 New
        +3
        Well, Serdyukov, in comparison with the American masters of cutting, is a small rat.
        1. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 3 December 2015 12: 34 New
          0
          Well, if there was a budget like in the USA then you have to look who should have a rest [quote = Riv] Well Serdyukov is a small rat compared to the American masters of cutting.
    2. Igor5513
      Igor5513 3 December 2015 09: 16 New
      -11 qualifying.
      What are you writing about, is there a link where it is written?
      1. Patriot 1
        Patriot 1 3 December 2015 09: 56 New
        +5
        Quote: Igor5513
        What are you writing about, is there a link where it is written?

        In! A new Troll-literate has appeared. In one word, two mistakes smile
      2. The comment was deleted.
  4. avvg
    avvg 3 December 2015 08: 32 New
    +6
    The Americans (the United States in the world for the first time in history used a nuclear bomb) are capable of any nonsense, willingness to make any sacrifices.
    1. martin-159
      martin-159 3 December 2015 09: 25 New
      +5
      Against the one who could not answer.
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 3 December 2015 09: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      capable of any nonsense, willingness to make any sacrifice.

      That they are capable of stupidity - I agree, but on the other hand, they are unlikely to make sacrifices. Then. They will launch their non-nuclear missiles, so the president of our country will call Washington and ask: What did it fly there? The answer will be immediately nuclear. So the doctrine of non-nuclear strike does not dance.
      1. syndicalist
        syndicalist 3 December 2015 11: 18 New
        0
        It is assumed that, nevertheless, part of the launchers will be destroyed before the return launch. Part will be shot down. Well, the rest - all la vie, inevitable military losses. Apparently it is believed that this option is preferable to a massive preventive nuclear strike, which will make the territory of the enemy unsuitable for further use.
  5. zekaze1980
    zekaze1980 3 December 2015 08: 33 New
    +3
    Of course, you don’t need to chase the Kazlodoids, but you don’t have to stand still).
  6. Monos
    Monos 3 December 2015 08: 33 New
    +6
    And the USSR reacted, took it at face value and spent huge funds to fend off these tales, ”the designer added.


    What was, what was. I remember the great movie "Bluff". One thing is not clear: what was our intelligence doing?
    1. UZBEK TASHKENT
      UZBEK TASHKENT 3 December 2015 08: 47 New
      +8
      Rave. Soviet intelligence worked best in the world. That’s not what killed the country. The Nobel laureate sold out and his entourage.
      1. mvg
        mvg 3 December 2015 20: 25 New
        0
        Of course the best. One Tikhonov is worth it! How he drove Bronevoy and Kuravlev by the nose ..
    2. sa-zz
      sa-zz 3 December 2015 08: 48 New
      +1
      It is believed that our military-industrial complex also had to live
    3. Yoshig
      Yoshig 3 December 2015 09: 05 New
      +3
      It is unlikely that our intelligence will give a press conference.
    4. Yoshig
      Yoshig 3 December 2015 09: 05 New
      0
      It is unlikely that our intelligence will give a press conference.
    5. ARES623
      ARES623 3 December 2015 09: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Monos
      And the USSR reacted, took it at face value and spent huge funds to fend off these tales, ”the designer added.

      What was, what was. I remember the great movie "Bluff". One thing is not clear: what was our intelligence doing?

      Intelligence of the USSR has always been among the strongest in the world, and remains so until our time. Its tasks are the supply of information. The adoption of a decision on its registration and implementation is the destiny of the country's political and military leadership. There are real questions for them. Only there is no one to ask, only Gorbachev remained, and even that one had a couple of Mondays ...
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 December 2015 08: 35 New
    +1
    Solomonenko is a real specialist, an expert of the highest level (not all general designers are like that, alas). You can trust him. Even if the Mattress Makers start launching cruise missiles from small distances, the ice time is still great, and the "response" will leave before hitting the intended targets.
    1. FID
      FID 3 December 2015 08: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Solomonenko is a real special,

      I apologize??? Maybe - Solomon ...
    2. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 3 December 2015 08: 47 New
      +2
      Solomonenko - a real special

      Never heard of Solomonenko. We do not have such a general. Is that famous in ukroarmii.
    3. andj61
      andj61 3 December 2015 08: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Even if the Mattress Makers start launching cruise missiles from small distances, the ice time is still great, and the "response" will leave before hitting the intended targets.

      But the United States is building its missile defense in such a way as to intercept this answer. True, the interception is feasible on the active site, and our missiles are still based far from the possible deployment of anti-missiles, especially on ships. On the passive site, the warhead flies already with a hypersonic, or even comparable to space velocity - up to 5-6 km / s, or even more, it is already extremely difficult to intercept it.
      1. leo3972
        leo3972 3 December 2015 09: 11 New
        0
        From the beginning, a blow to the ABM, then immediately an otvetku. am
      2. Alex_59
        Alex_59 3 December 2015 09: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: andj61
        On the passive section, the warhead flies already with hypersonic, or even comparable to space velocity - up to 5-6 km / s

        from 7 to 7,5 km / s at the end of the active section. Then it gradually decreases, reaching a minimum of 6-6,5 km / s at the peak (height 1300-2000 km), after passing the peak it again grows to the values ​​of 7-7,5. In the atmosphere it is slowed down depending on the angle of entry into the atmosphere and the warhead mass up to 1-4 km / s near the ground.
        1. sa-zz
          sa-zz 3 December 2015 10: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Alex_59
          from 7 to 7,5 km / s at the end of the active section. Then it gradually decreases, reaching a minimum of 6-6,5 km / s at the peak (height 1300-2000 km), after passing the peak it again grows to the values ​​of 7-7,5. In the atmosphere it is slowed down depending on the angle of entry into the atmosphere and the warhead mass up to 1-4 km / s near the ground.

          In short, ordinary citizens will only have time to see a falling asterisk
          1. Alex_59
            Alex_59 3 December 2015 10: 57 New
            0
            Quote: sa-zz
            In short, ordinary citizens will only have time to see a falling asterisk

            Yes. The fall time from an altitude of 100 km to 0 is about 45-60 seconds. It’s like a Chelyabinsk meteorite.
      3. sa-zz
        sa-zz 3 December 2015 10: 35 New
        0
        Quote: andj61
        But the United States is building its missile defense in such a way as to intercept this answer.

        Hehe. As soon as they build the missile defense base, our anti-missile defense systems are already sent there.
  8. asar
    asar 3 December 2015 08: 36 New
    +6
    Alas, USA!
    U.S. Global Impact Concept

    The idea of ​​a "global strike" was doomed to complete pi ... ets from the very beginning!
    Just "cutting the US budget" into useless waste!
    And where is the US Congress looking?
    What obamych, it became boring after hitting our VKS on ...?!
    And I looked, I will exhibit (albeit "with a beard"!):
    On a Russian submarine.
    Crew commander:
    - Who pressed the red button?
    Silence.
    - Who pressed the red button ?!
    Silence.
    - C'mon, figs with her, with Australia, but we must have discipline!
    So who pressed the red button, I ask ?!
    1. sa-zz
      sa-zz 3 December 2015 09: 02 New
      +2
      Who threw boots on the remote ?!
  9. Zomanus
    Zomanus 3 December 2015 08: 36 New
    0
    Yes, as soon as the rockets begin to fall on our mines,
    there will be a counter strike to all that we have.
    And in the means we will not limit ourselves.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 3 December 2015 10: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Zomanus
      Yes, as soon as the rockets begin to fall on our mines, a counter strike will immediately go to all that we have. And we will not limit ourselves to the means.

      Our missiles will go to visit them even before their missiles begin to fall.
      Mattresses also understand that when the missiles are on the march, persuading them to return back to the mines will not work.
      The inevitability of obtaining lyuli is a good deterrent.
  10. DIMA45R
    DIMA45R 3 December 2015 08: 37 New
    +4
    Yes, there are many tales of horror stories in the USA, they are cheaper, more effective in the media than real weapons ..... An inflatable army and super-fighters promoted by huliwood in tight suits ...
  11. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 3 December 2015 08: 37 New
    +4
    Bang, be sure to bang. The whole world is in ruin. But then.
  12. GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 3 December 2015 08: 39 New
    0
    I do not believe, I have not heard.
  13. Engineer
    Engineer 3 December 2015 08: 41 New
    -14 qualifying.
    The opinion of a person developing a Mace and not finishing his job is very competent for.
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 3 December 2015 08: 54 New
      12
      And the opinion of a person who has never developed an ICBM is even more "competent" smile
    2. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 3 December 2015 08: 57 New
      +6
      The opinion of the person under whose leadership Topol-M was developed, who made the decision to retire after failures with Bulava, is very valuable to me. In contrast to the opinion of "Engineer", which is hardly related to the Strategic Missile Forces, let alone the creation of missiles. First, work on articulating your thoughts clearly.
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 3 December 2015 09: 41 New
        0
        Quote: Mikhail M
        The opinion of the person under whose leadership Topol-M was developed
        An opinion needs arguments that are not given. The strategy of a global preemptive strike does not deny that there will be a partial breakthrough of the defense in a retaliatory strike. More important, however, is not the theme that we can survive from thousands of CDs alone, not counting the rest of the potential for an attack (both in the United States and its allies), but the very independence, the political will of our government to blackmail and pressure, not here and Armageddon must be started. Had the Americans accepted Yeltsin's Russia into NATO, they would not have had to bother, they would have already destroyed our entire army and navy, made them dependent on imports, without a war they would have disarmed Russia, destroyed the military-industrial complex. How independent our government is now is a question. The same Zyuganov constantly talks about the overseas "regional committee" influencing the decisions of the Medvedev government, and even without Gennady Andreevich, there is something to think about. In any case, one must take threats seriously, and not presumptuously declare that "a quick global strike is not the first impracticable military concept developed in the United States."
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 December 2015 09: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: Engineer
      The opinion of a person developing a Mace and not finishing his job is very competent for.

      And you apparently think that creating a solid-fuel ICBM, with the expectation that it will last for several decades, is simple and easy. A mace is already flying. A school for building liquid-fuel missiles was better developed in our country, so the creation of a solid-fuel ICBM has gone on for so long and hard . But at the same time they brought her to mind, for which the designer and all those who worked on her deserve respect.
  14. Anshe2
    Anshe2 3 December 2015 08: 41 New
    +2
    America's next soap bubble
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    PMaster 3 December 2015 08: 49 New
    -12 qualifying.
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    1. V.ic
      V.ic 3 December 2015 08: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: PMaster
      We realize a nozzle for cutting bored piles

      Should Erdogan or Poroshenko cut off the pumpkin? It will be cheaper with an ax ... And the diameter is too much ... No, I will not buy it.
    2. 0255
      0255 3 December 2015 09: 47 New
      0
      Quote: PMaster
      We realize a nozzle for cutting bored piles with a diameter of 620 to 1500 mm

      Did not find another site for advertising?
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 3 December 2015 13: 00 New
        0
        Quote: 0255
        Quote: PMaster
        We realize a nozzle for cutting bored piles with a diameter of 620 to 1500 mm

        Did not find another site for advertising?

        Why cut them down? Bored ones! They are "stuffed" to the desired mark - and all business! ...
  16. UZBEK TASHKENT
    UZBEK TASHKENT 3 December 2015 08: 50 New
    +3
    Open mattresses are not substituted, so they created an army without a state and territory. It seems like there is an army, but there is nowhere to bomb it. If we do not stop now, 100500 will come through Central Asia and, as it were, by chance with a few dirty bombs. It's time to arrange a pair of Atlantis. You can’t pull, then we will wash ourselves with our blood.
  17. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 3 December 2015 08: 51 New
    +2
    here all these efforts and in a peaceful direction - a bridge to the moon had already been built
    1. zekaze1980
      zekaze1980 3 December 2015 09: 01 New
      +1
      And then I would have to fight over this bridge :), a modern man cannot do otherwise.
  18. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 3 December 2015 08: 52 New
    +1
    Perhaps that is why they announced an attempt to create their army on new physical principles, because they exhausted all the possibilities to adequately threaten! And this is an unattainable goal for square-headed people. We'll have to rely on NATO speakers and their "terrible" faces.
  19. fif21
    fif21 3 December 2015 08: 58 New
    -1
    No need to dissuade them! Let them continue to be mistaken. I really hope that the mattress "Colt" will misfire during the "duel". Only not smart people warn the enemy about his mistake.
  20. chikenous59
    chikenous59 3 December 2015 09: 00 New
    +1
    A global strike is entirely feasible from the territory of Europe, the Mediterranean Sea, and Northern latitudes.
    Technology does not stand still, so to say that this strategy is not feasible is unreasonable!
    Nobody actually tested the possibility of such a blow, so you can only guess. Buns should not be relaxed!
    The first blow is delivered by massive, relatively inexpensive missiles, which must be shot down by a large number of anti-missiles.
    It is much more difficult to reflect the second wave, and will there be anything to bring down?
    Arsenal needs to be replenished unambiguously and still prepare for the worst-case scenario.
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 3 December 2015 09: 02 New
      +1
      Bread rolls should never be relaxed, especially in Europe laughing . But how do you imagine the defeat of a missile mine designed for a nuclear attack, a convection warhead?
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 3 December 2015 10: 22 New
      0
      Quote: chikenous59
      Arsenal needs to be replenished unambiguously and still prepare for the worst-case scenario.

      So you need to be ready to apply (design, build, put into operation) Status-6 from any side of North America. And in Western Europe with Japan, too.
  21. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 3 December 2015 09: 01 New
    +4
    Apparently in the "striped country" many people think that Russia is ready to believe in all their nonsense, but we have already gone through this, and I think the current leadership headed by Vladimir Putin has made the right conclusions! type Zhirinovsky and his nerves will not stand it, then what? The whole world is in dust! That is why the Western gentlemen are not really our friends or, to put it bluntly, enemies, take care of V.V. Putin with his sober mind and endurance, he is a real guarantor of your safety!
  22. press officer
    press officer 3 December 2015 09: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: sannych
    I think that the "global strike" is designed for a situation when in Russia (we have no doubt that our country is the main target for such a strike) as a result of any actions (coup, another orange revolution, death or assassination of Putin, etc.) a person like Navalny will come to power (the name is taken from the ceiling, the meaning is clear), who will not dare (will not want) to respond to the United States with a "strike of retaliation."



    Hmm .. why such black thoughts? "kill \ death .." and then we will choose such a herd of sheep Navalny \ Khodorkovsky \ Kasparov \ Yashin \ Ponamorev and Co.! fool Do you really think that the people are still as naive as in the 90s? belay If there is a replacement of the Darkest without his participation and popular consent, the people will quickly dry up a puddle across the ocean than once again allow the "young / liberasts" to come to power! am am am And about mattresses and a hedgehog it is clear that they want to not miss the moment of division and destruction of their main enemy! negative
    1. sannych
      sannych 3 December 2015 09: 24 New
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      It's like a version. Because how else can this concept be substantiated? I don’t think that although they are "well, stupid-ee-ee (s)", but they are hardly suicidal. Nothing will save the United States from retaliation in the current situation, and it seems that the surviving "top" does not smile for the rest of their lives to spend in bunkers or on the Antarctic coast among penguins. They want to rule the planet, preferably not contaminated with radiation, but without Russia (well, China is over). Therefore, the situation is swinging - the war in Ukraine, the war in Syria, the provocation of Turkey, I will not be surprised that soon it will flare up in Central Asia or Transcaucasia (Karabakh). They hope that Russia will not handle so many conflicts, the economy will sag, and citizens, against the background of the deteriorating quality of life, will go to the Maidan, blaming Putin for everything. And organizing elections in the right format on this wave is a piece of cake.
      Let me emphasize that this is how I understand the logic of the Americans. Naturally, they hardly fully understood our mentality, the thinking of people who survived the 90s, that we will no longer be led by slogans about democracy, freedom, 100 varieties of sausage and the like. But if it worked once, worked two (in Ukraine), then, the Americans think, why not try it again in Russia? To organize a "revolution", 2 percent of lumpen and liberal-democratic rabble is enough, which we witnessed at the Ruin.
  23. chikenous59
    chikenous59 3 December 2015 09: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: vadimtt
    Bread rolls should never be relaxed, especially in Europe laughing . But how do you imagine the defeat of a missile mine designed for a nuclear attack, a convection warhead?

    And no one says that after a global blow, Russia will have no choice but to answer. But our capabilities are quite capable of downplaying.
    How much missile defense is needed to bring down 1000 CR? How much do we have? If our arsenal runs out, it will be much easier for them to act if the globe certainly does not crack by this time))
  24. chikenous59
    chikenous59 3 December 2015 09: 10 New
    0
    Quote: vadimtt
    But how do you imagine the defeat of a missile mine designed for a nuclear attack, a convection warhead?

    A few strokes. One blow withstand, but 2-3?
  25. Svarog5570
    Svarog5570 3 December 2015 09: 12 New
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    let the Americans make fun of their paper advantage
  26. chikenous59
    chikenous59 3 December 2015 09: 14 New
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    Quote: Svarog5570
    let the Americans make fun of their paper advantage

    Our advantage is also only on paper. And I would not want to verify it in practice.
    Enough hatred!
  27. raid14
    raid14 3 December 2015 09: 14 New
    +1
    It is not worth dropping a massive Tomahawk strike on the targets of strategic nuclear forces from the shields; the strengthening of the air defense and missile defense of our country should be continued.
    The command to launch a retaliatory or preventive strike of the strategic nuclear forces (based on the analysis of 08.08 when the order of the 58th army was several hours late, while deciding whether to assemble the UN Security Council) can be given only after a long time or completely canceled.
    1. umka571
      umka571 3 December 2015 09: 37 New
      +2
      You in vain dragged here 08.08. The main reason for this confusion is the expulsion by the Serdyukov scum of the Main Operational Directorate with the Central Control Commission under the pretext of repairing it. The orders of the 58th Army were given on cell phones. And after this little war, Serdyukov scum also awarded the Order of Medvedev, akin to horseradish. There was a lot of interesting things and you selected an unsuccessful example, it’s from a completely different opera
      1. raid14
        raid14 3 December 2015 09: 47 New
        +1
        Do not forget how many "Serdyukovs" remained in the offices of power, the sabotage of presidential decrees on the ground has become the norm, correct if this is not so.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 3 December 2015 14: 25 New
          +1
          In our army, there are still a lot of "not knowing" ones, especially at the top - a very clear example of these "not knowing" happened with the Su 24 in Syria and with the pilot rescue operation.
  28. chikenous59
    chikenous59 3 December 2015 09: 15 New
    +2
    Quote: raid14
    It is not worth dropping a massive Tomahawk strike on the targets of strategic nuclear forces from the shields; the strengthening of the air defense and missile defense of our country should be continued.
    The command to launch a retaliatory or preventive strike of the strategic nuclear forces (based on the analysis of 08.08 when the order of the 58th army was several hours late, while deciding whether to assemble the UN Security Council) can be given only after a long time or completely canceled.

    A retaliatory command is accepted within a few minutes or even automatically in the event of the destruction of the headquarters or senior leadership
    1. raid14
      raid14 3 December 2015 09: 22 New
      0
      With a massive attack by an ICBM, I agree, the "Perimeter" will work, we are talking about a non-nuclear attack.
      1. sannych
        sannych 3 December 2015 09: 31 New
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        Is there any information, is the Perimeter functioning?
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 3 December 2015 09: 44 New
          0
          Quote: sannych
          Is there any information, is the Perimeter functioning?
          But who will tell you about this ..? Secret. At the annual TV meeting of the people with their president, he will need to ask him this question bully
  29. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 3 December 2015 09: 16 New
    +5
    Since the age of 45, the United States has been planning a nuclear strike against the USSR. And somehow it does not add up, something always interferes!
    1. martin-159
      martin-159 3 December 2015 09: 29 New
      +1
      I think that we also have some plans.
  30. TT62
    TT62 3 December 2015 09: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: chikenous59
    Nobody actually tested the possibility of such a blow, so you can only guess. Buns should not be relaxed!

    Doctrines, sudden checks, what is this for?
  31. Homos
    Homos 3 December 2015 09: 19 New
    +2
    Quote: sannych
    I think that the "global strike" is designed for a situation when in Russia (we have no doubt that our country is the main target for such a strike) as a result of any action (coup, another orange revolution, death or assassination of Putin, etc.) a person like Navalny will come to power (the name is taken from the ceiling, the meaning is clear), who will not dare (will not want) to respond to the United States with a "strike of retaliation."

    If such a person comes, then Russia will be disposed of without a global missile strike. A global hit is expensive. But if such a person comes to us in power, our thieves in the field will simply be given a blank carte blanche and simply told to share in the right proportion.
  32. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 3 December 2015 09: 21 New
    0
    Everyone understands everything perfectly, but everyone wants to live well. For the sake of this, some are building farms, others are promoting the military-industrial complex.
  33. chikenous59
    chikenous59 3 December 2015 09: 22 New
    0
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Since the age of 45, the United States has been planning a nuclear strike against the USSR. And somehow it does not add up, something always interferes!

    The instinct of self-preservation
  34. Colleague
    Colleague 3 December 2015 09: 25 New
    0
    Eh Navalny would be there, if only he would turn around ......
  35. rusaiaiBishkek
    rusaiaiBishkek 3 December 2015 09: 29 New
    +1
    they need to throw them some kind of disinformation so that they spend more money on development.
  36. NordUral
    NordUral 3 December 2015 09: 35 New
    0
    Too optimistic statement.
  37. chikenous59
    chikenous59 3 December 2015 09: 35 New
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    Quote: TT62
    Quote: chikenous59
    Nobody actually tested the possibility of such a blow, so you can only guess. Buns should not be relaxed!

    Doctrines, sudden checks, what is this for?

    Teachings? What are the teachings? In scale they are not comparable to a global blow!
    To be sure that we can repel a massive attack, it is necessary to verify this in practice.
    The exercises do not work out the interception of 3000 cruise missiles)) This is not a single state will pull!
    Imagine the situation: 3000-5000 KR fly to our territory. We shot them down (unlikely). What's next?
    How to defend against missiles and enemy aircraft? Or do you think that we have an infinite supply of missiles?
    After such a blow, everyone who wants to attack us will want to attack. Since our arsenal will run out.
    Do not forget about Britain and their vassals, do not forget about China, which borders us.
    They are not friends to us and they will not refuse to chop off a piece of the pie if they see that Russia is unarmed.
    1. vadimtt
      vadimtt 3 December 2015 09: 49 New
      0
      I don’t see how ordinary tomahawks can hit the missile silo, at least 1000 pieces per target. And if we also take into account the suppression of GPS at a threatened time and the operational change in the terrain (there are many ways, from explosives to inflatable "hills"). And with an INS and a conventional warhead, no harm can be done to the mine at all.
      But with hypersonic cruise missiles is not so clear. But they are not yet, and when they are, then countermeasures will be picked up.
    2. Yunik
      Yunik 3 December 2015 10: 05 New
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      Bullshit, you think that after 5000 missiles, we will sit and wait for another attack on us. The answer will be a nuclear strike even if at least one missile is launched on our territory.
  38. chikenous59
    chikenous59 3 December 2015 09: 43 New
    0
    Quote: sannych
    Is there any information, is the Perimeter functioning?

    If someone says "NO" to you, which you are afraid to hear, then such a person will be immediately accepted by the FSB, and then convicted for treason)) Do not ask about such things. Of course it functions and it is clearly modernized in accordance with the changed technologies of attack and defense.
  39. sa-ag
    sa-ag 3 December 2015 09: 47 New
    0
    A possibly unattainable goal is taken, scientific and engineering potential is organized to advance towards the goal, by some time it turns out that the goal is not very relevant, but there are already some developments that are put into operation and things appear that are ahead of their time, then this product sell to all other countries, so setting an unattainable goal moves the economy forward and keeps the country technologically behind
  40. vitaliy.rnd
    vitaliy.rnd 3 December 2015 09: 50 New
    0
    But the USSR reacted, took it at face value and spent huge funds to fend off these tales. ”


    And what would we have now if we had not reacted and parried these "fairy tales"? Air defense at the level of 3 countries?
    So in this part, I strongly disagree with the author. One gets the impression that he calls not to react to threats and stop "unnecessary" developments.
  41. Belousov
    Belousov 3 December 2015 09: 54 New
    0
    In the event that Onalny comes to power, no one will inflict any blows. They will simply hand over everything, as, for example, they handed over the unique wiretapping system of the American embassy in Moscow. We will become "friends" again angry
    Regarding damage to mine-based missiles - they are protected from the effects of a nuclear strike, but here it is proposed to destroy a non-nuclear strike?!? It will be curious. In addition, the Perimeter system seems to be alive and well. Or was it taken off?
  42. An64
    An64 3 December 2015 09: 55 New
    +1
    Let me disagree with Solomonov. He says that the blow will be opened and the response will immediately go. With regard to Russia - absolutely true. But apart from Russia, no other country, incl. and China do not have missile strike detection systems. And if you do not "try on" absolutely all American plans only for yourself, then against all other countries (except Russia) a global strike is very effective.
  43. Alex_59
    Alex_59 3 December 2015 09: 55 New
    0
    The best means of counteracting all these concepts is the BZHRK and SLBMs. When it is not known where the object to be destroyed is, no global hits are possible. And most importantly - it's cheap. One way or another, we need the Strategic Missile Forces anyway, so let them build the BZHRK again. Tracking it online is impossible and will not be possible for a very long time.
  44. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 December 2015 10: 08 New
    0
    American Philosophy of Global Impact - Outright Stupidity

    It is necessary to listen to the specialist and professional, but do not forget to be prepared for everything. American SDI forced the USSR to incur decent costs for the arms race, although it also ended up being another American dream.
  45. chikenous59
    chikenous59 3 December 2015 10: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Unique
    Bullshit, you think that after 5000 missiles, we will sit and wait for another attack on us. The answer will be a nuclear strike even if at least one missile is launched on our territory.

    Well, yes, the answer will be nuclear. But 5000 missiles have already been fired and they need to be knocked down))
    And after our nuclear response, a counter-nuclear response will follow) How will we shoot down missiles if we stay alive? There will be nothing left.
    In any situation, neither the United States nor Russia will be anymore.
    So they fantasized and that's enough))
  46. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 December 2015 10: 16 New
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    "a scam that was exposed in 1989 by the US Congress" ////

    In 1989 - of course, it was a bluff. Reagan bluffed spectacularly with SDI.

    But by the beginning of 2000 SDI (ABM) began to be embodied "in hardware" quite
    successfully. Both the massive naval system of Aegis and the interceptors in Alaska are quite
    real and combat ready. The system copes with single ICBMs so far poorly (30-50% probability),
    but the medium-range BR takes.
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 3 December 2015 11: 13 New
      -1
      Medium-range ballistic missiles of the 60s model, I dare to clarify. So far, only our systems are breaking modern ballistic targets and missile defense.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 3 December 2015 11: 28 New
        0
        "Modern ballistic goals and CDs are knocking down only our systems so far." ///

        The S-400 system has been proven able to shoot down a boar target missile
        at the final (low) stage of the trajectory. According to modern BR, it has never been tested.
        On a high section, the ballistic missile system must be able to shoot down the C-500 system.
        But she (so far) is not in service with Russia.
        1. Alex_59
          Alex_59 3 December 2015 11: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The S-400 system has been proven able to shoot down a boar target missile
          at the final (low) stage of the trajectory. According to modern BR, it has never been tested.
          There is nothing to experience. SAM C-300 / 400 can only be controlled in the atmosphere, because It has only aerodynamic controls. Therefore, the target target is 30 km, although the rocket’s energy allows it to be sent to 200 km, like the SM-3. RGCh ICBM falls from an altitude of 30 km to the ground in 20-30 seconds, which is on the verge of the reaction time C-300.
          Quote: voyaka uh
          On a high section, the ballistic missile system must be able to shoot down the C-500 system.
          Only if a transatmospheric interceptor like the American EKV is created for her, but no one will tell us so now.
          Quote: shinobi
          For the time being, modern ballistic goals and the Kyrgyz Republic only beat our systems.
          So far, no one knows how to shoot down ICBM MIRVs at the transatmospheric stage of flight. But the closest to this goal is the United States with its GBI and EKV. The naval Aegis and SM-3 are unlikely to ever be able to shoot down MIRVed ICBMs despite the stormy advertising. Or it will no longer be SM-3, but something new.
          1. mvg
            mvg 3 December 2015 21: 27 New
            0
            At present, no one knows how to shoot down the RFM ICBMs at the atmospheric stage of flight.

            Sorry, but THAAD?
  47. spolo
    spolo 3 December 2015 10: 25 New
    0
    Quote: chikenous59
    Quote: vadimtt
    Bread rolls should never be relaxed, especially in Europe laughing . But how do you imagine the defeat of a missile mine designed for a nuclear attack, a convection warhead?

    And no one says that after a global blow, Russia will have no choice but to answer. But our capabilities are quite capable of downplaying.
    How much missile defense is needed to bring down 1000 CR? How much do we have? If our arsenal runs out, it will be much easier for them to act if the globe certainly does not crack by this time))

    Don’t worry, enough. Still Soviet goods in bulk. Or do you think that you were stolen by metal?
  48. chikenous59
    chikenous59 3 December 2015 10: 55 New
    0
    Quote: spolo
    Quote: chikenous59
    Quote: vadimtt
    Bread rolls should never be relaxed, especially in Europe laughing . But how do you imagine the defeat of a missile mine designed for a nuclear attack, a convection warhead?

    And no one says that after a global blow, Russia will have no choice but to answer. But our capabilities are quite capable of downplaying.
    How much missile defense is needed to bring down 1000 CR? How much do we have? If our arsenal runs out, it will be much easier for them to act if the globe certainly does not crack by this time))

    Don’t worry, enough. Still Soviet goods in bulk. Or do you think that you were stolen by metal?

    Tell me then, know-it-all, how many anti-ballistic missiles do we have in service?
    I don’t know how many of them actually are, but certainly less than that of the Americans of shock missiles. How many were stolen for metal, only God knows. Part has already been decommissioned.
    Is Soviet good capable of shooting down modern missiles? I am not 100% sure.
  49. shinobi
    shinobi 3 December 2015 11: 09 New
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    Critical damage to the United States requires 123 125kt strategic warheads, which is a one-shot volley from two strategic nuclear submarines. 40x. Actually, everything. For the available tactical nuclear weapons, from 90ct to 0,5ct, for some reason only the military remembers, and this is 25-7,5 thousand units of old stocks. This is frankly bred by the United States, especially since they don’t have hypersound Unlike our military.
    1. mvg
      mvg 3 December 2015 20: 39 New
      0
      Where do the "fireballs" come from? Have you set yourself a goal, on occasion, to calculate how much a global blow can "weigh"? How many bases of the Strategic Missile Forces do we have and how many will survive?
      About nuclear weapons, but as it were, Europe is not interested in America .. They would have to kill strategists .. and then each for himself ..
  50. Yunik
    Yunik 3 December 2015 11: 13 New
    +1
    Putin at the Valdai forum said: maybe we are the upper volt but with missiles which are heaped. I believe him.