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High-mobile army car GAZ-39371 "Vodnik"

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The highly mobile army multi-purpose all-wheel drive GAZ-39371 “Vodnik” vehicle with the wheel formula 4х4 is intended for transporting people and cargo, towing hitch devices on all types of roads, including difficult terrain. The basis of the multi-purpose vehicle "Vodnik" was a modular construction scheme, which allows you to quickly change the combat and economic modules directly in the field. The chassis of the car can be used for the installation of small arms and light artillery armament up to the installation of 120-mm mortar.


The car was developed in the OKB JSC GAZ. At the same time, with 1997, its production was carried out at the Arzamas engineering plant. At this enterprise, which is part of the GAZ group, the famous BTR-80 and its various types were assembled and assembled. The far progenitor of "Vodnik" was considered a floating car, which possessed the NAMI-0281 index. The design of this machine was started in the USSR in 1985 year, but still NAMI had a completely different layout.

According to popular opinion, which is erroneous, the GAZ-39371 "Vodnik" (as the name suggests) is considered to be floating. However, this is not the case; the machine does not have the means to move on water - it does not have a propeller, ground tracks or a jet engine. Vodnik is able to overcome water obstacles ford, but only when their maximum depth does not exceed the 1,2 meter. GAZ-39371 Vodnik is designed for operation at ambient temperatures from -45 ° С to + 50 ° С. At relative air humidity 100% can be used at temperatures up to + 25 ° С. It is possible to use the machine at wind speeds up to 30 m / s and in mountainous areas at altitudes up to 4500 meters with the ability to overcome passes up to 4650 meters in height. The combat crew of the Vodnik consists of 11 people: a squad leader (machine), a driver and an airborne force in the number of 9 people.



The car GAZ-39371 has the following layout: Department of Management (three places), the engine-transmission compartment and the fighting compartment. The machine was built on a modular scheme. The welded car body consisted of two modules - front and rear, which were removable. According to representatives of GAZ, 26 provided for the creation of various interchangeable modules (including armored and economic, which could be used as field housing), which could be easily changed based on the tasks. Thanks to the quick coupling of the support flange of the housing and the rear module, it was possible to replace it quickly even under normal field conditions.

The front module consisted of a motor-transmission compartment and a control compartment, which were separated by a hermetic partition. The control module was three-seater, with the placement of the commander's and driver's seats in a row in an automobile way, and the radio operator's seats right behind the driver. For landing and disembarking, the commander and driver used the doors, and the radio operator hatch. The driver's seat was adjustable in the longitudinal direction and height, the radio operator and commander's seats - only in height.

The main functionality was introduced in the rear module, which was the main useful volume of the car. It could be used for the transportation of goods and people, as well as the installation of various special equipment, mobile installations and weapons systems. As noted above, due to the quick connection, the rear module can be easily replaced. In the module, there were seats for the transport of 8 people, while the design allowed the seats to be installed either face to face or back to back. The module had 6 doors for landing and landing troops (two doors behind, left and right). All doors opened upwards and held open with gas shock absorbers.



To protect the crew of the car was originally worked out several booking options. The Vodnik case, depending on the tasks to be solved, could be made of armor steel, which guaranteed the protection of the vehicle crew against mm 7,62 bullets and shrapnel. In this case, the front and rear modules could be performed both armored and unarmored. In addition, to increase the level of protection there was the possibility of mounting additional mounted body armor on the car. For the first time, uncovered laminated armored glass was used on the GAZ-39371 armored vehicle, which did not have any additional armor or armor casings.

The armament of the combat module may vary based on the purpose of a particular vehicle. In the basic configuration, Vodnik is equipped with a BTR-80 machine gun turret with a 14,5 mm KPVT machine gun and a 7,62 mm PKT machine gun. The machine gun turret is equipped with a day sight, as well as 6 launchers for launching smoke grenades. The equipment available at Vodnik included tank intercom R-174, air conditioning, heater, fire extinguishing means. It was also provided for the installation on board the car of the radio station R-163-50U, navigation equipment and special equipment.

In the middle of 2007, these highly mobile army vehicles began to enter into service with the Russian army (units of the Strategic Missile Forces and commandant units) and into special units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia. In total, approximately 250 of such armored vehicles were produced, while the GOD-50 Vodnik 39371 vehicles were laid to preserve the long-term storage of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Another 48 car "Vodnik" received the army of Uruguay. All vehicles were supplied without weapons. The Uruguayan military used the “Vodniki” to transport personnel and as vehicles.



GAZ-39371 "Vodnik" was originally created as an army vehicle of multi-purpose, but this machine did not gain popularity among the troops. In the period from April to June, 2001, the 12 vehicles of the pilot production batch, passed military tests in virtually combat conditions in Chechnya. The machines were used as part of the 42-th Guards Motorized Rifle Division and were consolidated into a separate company of escorting the transport of the central transport.

The first thing that surprised the military in this armored vehicle was the division into compartments. Between the landing and control compartment in which the commander is located, there is an engine and a sealed partition. This solution limits the use of the machine in combat conditions. It is simply impossible to change from the commander to the shooter or vice versa, without leaving the body protected by armor.

In addition, the P-174 intercom equipment was installed on the machine, which provides acceptable communication with a total noise level up to 133 dB. However, the noise of the engine "Vodnik" and its chassis make communication virtually impossible. This was explained by the fact that the cars were not equipped with silencers, and the exhaust from the engine was directed downwards under the hull. As a result of such a constructive solution, a loud sound from the exhaust was first reflected from the road surface, and then returned to the flat bottom of the car, which only increased the impact. In addition, when connecting the front axle there was a clearly audible buzz in the cabin.



From the point of view of mine protection, the undercarriage of the car was performed well: an independent torsion bar suspension was used on the transverse levers, and the wheels themselves were largely “rendered” for the projection of the bottom and body of the armored vehicle as a whole. This solution significantly increased the lateral stability of the car. However, the presence of a flat bottom significantly reduced the survivability of the vehicle and the assault, as it entirely took on the impact of a shock wave when a land mine or mine exploded. In fact, nothing has changed in this regard since the end of the 1950-s, remaining at the level of the BRDM-1. The same minus is typical for the forms of the housing "Vodnik". The same BTR-80 is distinguished by more rational angle of inclination of armor and its complex scheme, something resembling a faceted diamond. The Vodnik case looks more like a “brick”, which contributes little to the appearance of ricochets when firing at a car from the flanks.

As Gennady Zhilin, who personally witnessed the operation of vehicles in Chechnya and communicated with the servicemen who exploited them, noted on the website of “Courage”, the layout of the vehicle, in terms of its protection from mines and IEDs, has an irrational decision. The places of the commander and the driver are located above the front axle, the entire payload (personnel, possible armament complex or cargo) is above the rear axle. In the event of a mine or a mine being blown up under any wheel in front of or behind, the people who are inside the Vodnik will receive the greatest damage from the blast wave. The smallest damage in this case will receive the engine compartment, since most of it is located just between the bridges. This raises a reasonable question, why would you need a healthy engine if, in the event of an explosion, the commander and driver of the car are taken off and one of the wheels is torn off (practical experience), and any further independent movement of the car will become impossible?

Yes, the chosen layout is technically the most optimal. With the existing overall dimensions of the machine, it allows for the greatest amount of internal space, as well as the most favorable conditions for controlling the machine. However, to ensure the greatest degree of protection of the crew from undermining mines should pay attention to the machine with the so-called "bonnet" layout. This was proven by the experience of operating various military equipment in local conflicts from Afghanistan to Chechnya.



Gennady Zhilin noted that the Vodnik armor did not at all meet the requirements of combat practice, without providing sufficient protection for the crew. In 2001, one of the armored vehicles in motion as part of a convoy experienced the impact of a landmine detonation, which was made from an artillery shell. At that time, the majority of land mines were installed by the militants not on the road or on the roadbed, but next to it - in order to maximize the defeat of the personnel, who, as a rule, moved on armor. As a result of the detonation, the front module of the Vodnik received several holes, the crew suffered losses. The most unexpected in this stories it was the fact that during the explosion not a single glazing was broken through. On this occasion, Zhilin had to hear from the military the following: “If you hit the car well on this car, then it’s likely that some windows will remain whole.”

The fact that the bulletproof glass confirmed its strength during practical use is also confirmed by the case when the 7,62-mm bullet fired by a sniper from a distance of about 800 meters could not penetrate the driver's armored glass. In general, the protection of viewing devices from damaging them from small arms weapons the enemy was solved in a rather original way - by installing a large area without cover for the commander and driver of multilayer armored glass, which in practice proved their effectiveness.

Today GAZ-GAZ-39371 "Vodnik" is a rather rare car, and therefore, an infrequent guest of photo shoots. Finding good photos with this car is quite difficult. The best photos of the car made and posted in your blog Vitaly Kuzmin, who photographed the car from all angles during a small exhibition of equipment in the Patriot Park, which took place after the completion of the final stage of the 2015 Tank Biathlon in August of this year.













Performance characteristics of GAZ-39371 Vodnik:
Overall dimensions: length - 5830 mm, width - 2630 mm, height - 2600 mm.
Full weight - 7500 kg.
Gross trailer weight - 2500 kg.
The power plant - diesel YMZ-534.10 power 160 hp
Maximum speed on the highway - 112 km / h.
Control fuel consumption at full weight, l / 100 km - 18,5.
Cruising control fuel consumption - 1000 km.
The smallest turning radius is 10 m.
The depth of the ford to overcome - 1,2 m.
The maximum surmountable climb is 30 degrees.
Passenger capacity - 11 people (including the driver).
Standard weapons - 14,5-mm KPVT machine gun, 7,62-PKT machine gun, 6 PU for launching smoke grenades.

Information sources:
http://modeli-gaz.ru/gaz/gaz-3937.htm
http://www.dogswar.ru/bronetehnika/bmp-btr/6331-broneavtomobil-gaz-3.html
http://otvaga2004.ru/armiya-i-vpk/armiya-i-vpk-vzglyad/vodnik-universalen-i-prost-no
http://bastion-opk.ru/gaz-3937-vodnik
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  1. qwert
    qwert 3 December 2015 07: 19 New
    +8
    I have long known about this machine. In my opinion, both conceptually and in hardware this car is better than all the Tigers, Wolves and other followers of the Hunters. All the time I say that what is being created in our country without looking to the West is better than attempts to imitate
    1. Waltasar
      Waltasar 3 December 2015 08: 35 New
      +7
      He still has different tasks with the tiger.
      For everyday use, the doors are somewhat uncomfortable.
      1. crazyrom
        crazyrom 4 December 2015 23: 00 New
        0
        Well, as I understand it, they are of the same class as the Tiger (4 wheels, 7 tons), only the tiger turned out much better.
    2. self-propelled
      self-propelled 3 December 2015 10: 06 New
      +9
      ... According to popular belief, which is erroneous, the GAZ-39371 Vodnik car (based on the name) is considered floating. However, this is not so, the machine does not have the means to move on water - it does not have a propeller, milled tracks or a water cannon. "Vodnik" is able to overcome ford water obstacles, but only when their maximum depth does not exceed 1,2 meters ...
      belay

      the absence of a water cannon (or other navigational propulsion) does not mean that it is impossible to overcome water barriers by swimming. in part, therefore, the bearing sealed lightly armored Vodnik hull has the shape of a "brick" (to increase the volumetric displacement) ...


      Quote: qwert
      I have long known about this machine. In my opinion, both conceptually and in hardware this car is better than all the Tigers, Wolves and other followers of the Hunters. All the time I say that what is being created in our country without looking to the West is better than attempts to imitate

      the modular construction scheme of Vodnik promised great advantages in production and repair (yes, changing the transport module to a medical one would be appreciated “at the front”). but the whole world saw a booming “Hammer”, and even by that time a classmate HMMWV (future “Tiger”) was preparing for Arabs in GAZ. there was no money to buy two kinds of "highly mobile multipurpose wheeled vehicle" for his army. so they chose "as in the west" ...
      1. avt
        avt 3 December 2015 11: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: self-propelled
        the absence of a water cannon (or other navigational propulsion) does not mean that it is impossible to overcome water barriers by swimming.

        good
        Quote: self-propelled
        "Fennek" is rather a sort of analogue of the BRDM-2.

        request Well, ,, Vodnik "?? Just the presence of a basic platform and modules for them would allow to expand the scope.
        Quote: self-propelled
        although Vodnik was also initially seen as a replacement for the obsolete BRDM. but then carried away by modularity and the machine became multi-purpose

        Which is exactly what you yourself have confirmed.
        1. Prapor-527
          Prapor-527 3 December 2015 18: 48 New
          +5
          Quote: avt
          Quote: self-propelled
          the absence of a water cannon (or other navigational propulsion) does not mean that it is impossible to overcome water barriers by swimming.

          As befits a real amphibian, the GAZ-39371 feels great in water, and if you install two optional mechanical water cannons, you can dissect waves at a speed of 12 km / h that is not weak for such a machine ...
          Brief TTX GAZ-39371 "Vodnik"
          Gross vehicle weight - 6600-7500 kg
          The mass of the transported freight - 1500-2500 kg
          Maximum speed:
          on the highway - 140 km / h
          afloat - 4-5 km / h
          with water cannons - 12 km / h
          PS The photo was added out of personal sympathy for this modification of Vodnik ...
      2. the47th
        the47th 3 December 2015 12: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: self-propelled
        the absence of a water cannon (or other navigational propulsion) does not mean that it is impossible to overcome water barriers by swimming

        A long time ago, the American Cadillac Gage Commando moved in the water due to the rotation of the wheels.
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        2. gjv
          gjv 3 December 2015 12: 46 New
          +4
          Quote: self-propelled
          ... According to popular belief, which is erroneous, the GAZ-39371 Vodnik car (based on the name) is considered floating. However


      3. cosmos111
        cosmos111 3 December 2015 19: 17 New
        +2
        [quote = self-propelled] sealed lightly armored hull of Vodnik has the shape of a "brick" (for [quote = self-propelled] multipurpose wheeled vehicle "there was no money. so they chose" as in the west "... [/ quote]
        consider all the pros and cons of BBM "Vodnik"
        PROS: 1. possessed a high degree of unification with the GAZ lineup already being produced ..
        2. had a high degree of maintainability both at the repair plant and on the battlefield.
        3. was equipped with a switchable front-wheel drive, independent torsion bar suspension, power steering, centralized tire inflation system, as well as modern heating and air conditioning systems ...
        4. armed with a basic configuration, mounted in the tower with KPVT machine guns, 14,5-mm caliber and 7,62-mm PKT machine gun with a day sight ....
        5.Has a high cross, could overcome water obstacles ...
        MINUS the modular design of the machine made it difficult to transfer the commander to the gunner’s place and vice versa, and between the commander’s compartment and the landing compartment there was a sealed partition that also interfered with movement inside the cabin, for this it was necessary to leave the armored car .....
        2. at Vodnik, the internal communication created on the basis of the P-174 apparatus could provide communication in the presence of noise with a total level of no more than 133 dB. BUT the undercarriage of the machine and its engine created noise around 150 DB during movement, which made the implementation of internal communications almost impossible, not to mention the comfort and comfort of the crew and the BBM landing .......
        3. on the GAZ-3937, its engine without a muffler with exhaust down, as a result, the exhaust sound was increased several times, while the front axle was also quite buzzing when it was connected ....
        4. the armored hull had a flat bottom; it was ideally suited for overcoming off-road and water barriers, BUT significantly reduced the survivability of the machine, IED ...
        (maybe that missed ???)

        These shortcomings could be eliminated during the modernization of BBM ....
        civilian modification was produced in individual orders in small batches, with an increased level of comfort, an exclusive interior decoration, as well as improved sound insulation of cars. , equipped with air conditioning, modern audio system, intercom .....
        it was possible to mount a bilge pump on the car, as well as electric traction winches with an effort of 5, 4 tons ((this particular version of Vodnik is shown in the photo self-propelled))))
        equipped with a Japanese HINO-J07C diesel engine, which had enhanced ergonomic characteristics, and a motor resource ......

        It’s a pity it’s a pity that the Vodnik project was closed, .... But I’m sure that I will return
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    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 3 December 2015 14: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: qwert
      In my opinion, both conceptually and in hardware this car is better than all the Tigers, Wolves and other followers of the Hunters.

      What is he better? There are a lot of shortcomings, and criticism from people who actually exploited it. request Indeed, it was better to develop the BRDM - a new diesel engine, armor, hatches on the sides. And additional wheels ... also a controversial thing, maybe such a complication of the machine would not be necessary, and there would be more space inside.
    4. psiho117
      psiho117 3 December 2015 21: 25 New
      +5
      Quote: qwert
      In my opinion ... this car is better than all Tigers, Wolves and others

      My dear, have you seen him live? maybe they made a landing-disembarkation from it?
      Maybe they were under fire? no?
      Then I will disappoint you: according to the reviews of those who were dealing, this little car is a rare guano, with thin walls and moronic small doors.
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 3 December 2015 22: 01 New
        0
        Quote: psiho117
        moronic little doors.


        photo click
    5. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 4 December 2015 21: 43 New
      -1
      And what? This "Vodnik" looks like an inverted trough ... The armor is only bulletproof ... When it was detonated, it was broken by shrapnel !!! In modern warfare, all vehicles must be protected by the principle of Western MRAPs, protection from undermining from below and from large-caliber small arms in a circle, the ability to install a special KAZ does not hinder ... And such transports of several types are needed light (reconnaissance) from 3-5 people, medium for 10 people (department) and large (transport or as a base for hailstones, shells and other things) ... All our fighters should be covered with armor not only in battle, but also when moving in a convoy on the march ...
  2. Wild_grey_wolf
    Wild_grey_wolf 3 December 2015 07: 28 New
    +3
    Thanks for the interesting article, you can say learn from mistakes. Now we have variants of equipment in which operating experience is taken into account. Yes, the machine is not handsome, but apparently the designers were looking for layout options and solutions for modern conditions. . .
  3. 106 VDD
    106 VDD 3 December 2015 08: 15 New
    0
    In my opinion, the car has a serious minus - a flat bottom, which does not help the crew in any way during a mine / landmine explosion.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 3 December 2015 10: 22 New
      +6
      Quote: 106VDD
      In my opinion, the car has a serious minus - a flat bottom, which does not help the crew in any way during a mine / landmine explosion.

      why make from highly mobile vehicle regular MRAP? US'ovtsy attempts to provide good protection for their HMMWV led to the fact that the "Hammer" ceased to be highly mobile (and on the road became conditionally mobile).
      I repeat, but still - for each vehicle there is a "niche".
      1. would
        would 4 December 2015 05: 09 New
        0
        Then that in modern military conflicts, IEDs and mines are massively used, including those far from the areas of military operations. Blasting one of the cars in an ambush classic column.

        US'ovtsy attempts to provide good protection for their HMMWV led to the fact that the "Hammer" has ceased to be highly mobile


        These attempts represented the desire to eliminate the already existing design flaws of the machine. Naturally, this was doomed to failure and that is why the United States abandoned the Humvee.
        1. cast iron
          cast iron 5 December 2015 01: 48 New
          +1
          Don't you know that during an ambush a column of explosives with a mass of at least a lot is usually put on a column to demolish a 60-ton tank? Not a single MRAP can take so much.
  4. Massik
    Massik 3 December 2015 09: 08 New
    +3
    Well, how do you like? Have half the mass and explosion protection at the Cougar level?
  5. avt
    avt 3 December 2015 09: 52 New
    +4
    Quote: Marssik
    ? Have half the mass and explosion protection at the Cougar level?

    good
    Quote: Waltasar
    He still has different tasks with the tiger.

    The Bundes seem to have an analogue - ,, Feneke "with very specifically ground equipment for a specific task.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 3 December 2015 10: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: avt
      The Bundes seem to have an analogue - ,, Feneke "with very specifically ground equipment for a specific task.

      "Fennek" is rather a sort of analogue of the BRDM-2.

      although Vodnik was also initially seen as a replacement for the obsolete BRDM. but then carried away by modularity and the machine became multi-purpose
      1. the47th
        the47th 3 December 2015 21: 13 New
        0
        Glasses on a combat vehicle. Ingenious!
        1. cast iron
          cast iron 5 December 2015 01: 50 New
          0
          Well, it’s much better to have no glasses at all, like in World War 2 tanks))) Well, or make a nonsense like on an BTR70 / 80 with tiny glasses that have to be closed with a lid through which nothing is visible.
          1. the47th
            the47th 5 December 2015 09: 55 New
            0
            It's better. After a short line in the windshield, the driver and commander stop seeing anything on the road. In triplexes, the review is not so hot, but it is always there, and not just before the first hits. In addition, glass, no matter how armored it is, will crumble after intensive shelling.
            1. cast iron
              cast iron 17 December 2015 17: 57 New
              0
              YOU armored personnel carrier in the picture only saw. And therefore leave the tales about the fact that "better" leave the students.
  6. Hey
    Hey 3 December 2015 10: 03 New
    +3
    There was a video in 2014, where "Vodnik" was composed of a column in Dombas.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 3 December 2015 10: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: MUD
      There was a video in 2014, where "Vodnik" was composed of a column in Dombas.

      AND? even earlier, “Vodniki” was seen in Uruguay ...
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 3 December 2015 16: 04 New
      +1
      Although some people think that Vodnik is unsuccessful, I like this multi-purpose machine, at least purely in appearance.
      Quote: MUD
      There was a video in 2014, where "Vodnik" was composed of a column in Dombas.

      You probably had in mind the video where, along with it, "Shot" also appeared?

      Or is there something else?
    3. cosmos111
      cosmos111 3 December 2015 17: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: MUD
      There was a video in 2014, where "Vodnik" was composed of a column in Dombas.

      GAZ-3937 "Vodnik" as part of the LPR forces. Krasnodon (Lugansk region), 10.01.2015 (s) frame video from www.youtube.com
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 3 December 2015 18: 34 New
        0
        GAZ-3937 "Vodnik" South Ossetia, war 08.08.08
  7. rennim
    rennim 3 December 2015 10: 12 New
    +3
    Or maybe just further develop the BRDM segment which is better protected and knows how to swim.
    1. Massik
      Massik 3 December 2015 12: 56 New
      +6
      Can we first decide what we want to get?
      Most here want everything at once: the floating one, to hold the PG-7VL in any part of the hull and undermine 20kg of TNT under the bottom, at least, oh, I forgot the modularity and installation of an uninhabited installation with a 30mm gun, petro, AGS and PKT. Well, it’s also inexpensively desirable, otherwise we always have no money.
      1. cast iron
        cast iron 5 December 2015 01: 54 New
        0
        No, here many people want circular protection from 12,7 mm at least 300 meters. Plus at least minimal mine protection. It would also be nice to remove the ICE into the space between the front passenger and the driver, making the body one-volume + add doors from the sides. Well, a bit to increase the height, then sit there in it in the pose of "embryo under a ton of concrete."
  8. CHILD
    CHILD 3 December 2015 13: 35 New
    0
    The sealed partition between the modules somehow really doesn’t look very reasonable .... the truck turns out, but where is the silencer? (Became comfort and stealth not relevant?) .... then I suspect, as always, to bring the mind to the place, we will build it in a new way. ... is it interesting that someone analyzed the factor of human relations (interpersonal) in the design, development and adoption ??
    1. Ruslan
      Ruslan 4 December 2015 02: 51 New
      0
      maybe because the engineers and designers in the army served on favorable terms, or were not in the army at all? so they would have to serve them for 2 years on non-convenient and complex machines, such masterpieces would then be designed :)
  9. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 3 December 2015 14: 14 New
    +5
    Quote: rennim
    Or maybe just further develop the BRDM segment which is better protected and knows how to swim.
    That's it!
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 3 December 2015 16: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Dimon-chik-79
      That's it!

      the door in the case, NORMAL, to put, for entry / exit AND the price, WAS BRDM 2M, NOT ....

      in the photo Textron M1117 "Guardian"
  10. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 December 2015 14: 37 New
    +1
    With progress in intelligence systems (UAVs, radars, thermal imagers and control electronics), such heavy vehicles will not be needed. Some of these functions will go to the Tiger car, some to a smaller one .. forgot the name.
  11. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 3 December 2015 16: 29 New
    +3
    On the basis of the 66th, miracles can be done! Where you poke a finger there and go! They came up with a handsome man!
  12. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 3 December 2015 17: 14 New
    +1
    good development. sorry I didn’t find my niche ........ a couple at GAZ were used as collectors.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 3 December 2015 20: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Volga Cossack
      a couple at GAZ were used as collectors.

      probably mean SIAM?
      he said that it turned out to be too expensive and cumbersome as for a city collector armored car (although, as for me, large amounts of cash are carried not only in the city ...).
      then they decided on the basis of SIAM to make a car for police special forces, but the Ministry of Internal Affairs was not interested in this machine ...
  13. cosmos111
    cosmos111 3 December 2015 22: 11 New
    0
    scheme / drawing of overall dimensions, multipurpose BBM "Vodnik"
  14. Atigay
    Atigay 3 December 2015 22: 27 New
    +2
    Whatever they say, but in Vodnik you can see a desire to get away from stereotypes. Yes, the doors are uncomfortable, yes, the modules are not connected, the armor is thin. But I like. That would give it to another group of engineers for completion. The thing will turn out!
  15. dakty
    dakty 6 December 2015 20: 03 New
    0
    Deep modernization of shishigi. And the worst part is the extremely low quality of workmanship. What kind of armor can we talk about when the transport from point A may not go far: look at the puddles of oil under the razdatka and gur (or motor). And this is on the exhibition copy? !!