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Necessary and sufficient

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The system "Status-6" does not leave the opponent a choice


A strategic deterrence system is being created in Russia, against which even in the long term there will be no acceptable protection. This will make our "partners" sit down at the table of constructive negotiations.

It would seem that the routine event - the November meeting of the President with the leadership of the Armed Forces, special services, law enforcement agencies and the military-industrial complex held on November 9 - caused a serious resonance, especially in the Western media. The front sheet of the slide presentation, which contained in a very compact form the idea of ​​a fundamentally new nuclear deterrence system, got into the camera of one of the Russian TV channels that covered this meeting. Her name - "Status-6" now knows the whole world. The conclusions made on the basis of the analysis of the slide are presented in the article “Leakage under the microscope”. But a more thorough understanding of the development is still ahead.

This is a system, undoubtedly, an extraordinary one. In theory, it should not emerge in the media space. Involuntarily there is an assumption about the unauthorized disclosure of military (state) secrets.

Disclosure or throw?


More recently, repeated cases of leakage of classified information from the highest officials in the Defense Ministry and other ministries and departments of Russia did take place. But today is a completely different time. It’s impossible to believe that a military leader of the highest rank has misread such important information by mistake - for sure he will seriously pay for at least his career. There remains a version of the intentional stuffing - "information bomb." However, everything is not so clear here. Three options are allowed.

The first one assumes that the information about the Status-6 system has been inserted under the condition that Russia cannot technologically and technically create such a system. The goal is to scare the adversary with a “bubble”, force it to make certain concessions or deploy work on resource-intensive defense programs in dead-end directions. Something like the Americans did, voicing the concept of SDI. The second variant of deliberate “flare” implies that the possibility of producing such weapons Russia exists, but in the long term. The goal is the same: to shift the attention of the enemy, to incline to concessions. In the third option, the information provided is quite true and our country has everything necessary to develop such a system in a relatively short time. In this case, we are making it clear to the “partners” that it is time for them to stop and begin a constructive dialogue with Russia.

To correctly determine what happened, we will look for answers to three main technical questions.

1. Is it possible in principle to create such a destructive weapon and will it have the expected effect?

2. Is the project technically feasible?

3. Is there a political and military-strategic need for its appearance?

Let's start with the third. It is obvious that the need for fundamentally new weapons arises if it is not possible to fend off new threats with the available means. It seems that today Russia has such a need. Our economic and defense potential is not in a position to compete with the US and the more so with NATO. Let us pay attention to the fact that today in the Russian Federation positions of supporters of the West are strong, mainly in the highest echelons of state administration, including the military-political one. In the course of a massive information and psychological warfare, one of the key problems may be the guarantee of execution of an order to use strategic nuclear forces. The large number of their personnel does not ensure the absolute reliability of the execution of such an order, especially in the conditions of possible civil confrontation in society. This problem should be solved by minimizing the personnel involved in strategic nuclear deterrence, whose numbers will remain within the limits determined by the ability to provide absolute (or close to it) guarantee of power loyalty and psychological readiness to use the system regardless of the situation in society and personal emotions.

Necessary and sufficient


Another important requirement is invulnerability from existing and prospective defensive systems of a potential enemy or high resistance from its resistance, as well as the possibility of causing unacceptable damage to the aggressor even in the most adverse circumstances, including the complete defeat of the Armed Forces and the destruction of the state itself.

Compliance with these conditions will provide guaranteed strategic deterrence. The analysis gives grounds to conclude that there is a political and military-strategic need for the production of such weapons.

We now turn to the first question about the reality of creating weapons of such destructive power. To answer it we turn to stories. In 1961, in the USSR, a nuclear weapon was exploded without exaggeration of the apocalyptic caliber - 58 megatons of TNT equivalent. At the same time, the bomb itself turned out to be relatively small - just 32 tons. Such a monstrous explosion can cause enormous damage, but the subsequent processes will be much more serious - megatsunami (with an explosion under water in certain points of the World Ocean) or the initiation of supervolcanoes and volcanic activity in general. The newspaper “Military Industrial Complex” wrote about this in detail in the article “Nuclear Special Forces”. As applied to the Status-6 system, it is about more serious things than simply initiating destructive geophysical processes or mega-tsunami, namely the creation of zones of high radioactivity, excluding the existence of almost all forms of life. In this vein, it is appropriate to recall the so-called cobalt bombs, which are thermonuclear ammunition with a cobalt sheath-59. An inactive cobalt-59 turns into a relatively short-lived (half-life is about 5,5 year), but extremely radioactive cobalt-60. According to experts, just a few hundred kilograms of such a substance is enough to destroy all life on the territory of the whole continent. Making a cobalt shell weighing several tons for multi-megaton thermonuclear ammunition equivalent enough for mega-tsuns to be born is not a problem.

Thus, the emergence of weapons of such monstrous destructive power is in principle likely.

It remains only to figure out how realistic its development is in Russia.

And there is no protection


Let's analyze the declassified slide to see if the elements of the Status-6 system shown there can implement the declared characteristics? To be more precise, we are talking about only one component - the super-torpedo. First of all, you should pay attention to its dimensions. They are determined with sufficient accuracy by the ratio of the torpedo and the nuclear submarine, under the keel of which it is depicted. The length of the torpedo is slightly less than a third of the length of the submarine, and its caliber is about a fifth or sixth of the diameter of the carrier hull. It should be noted that both of its potential carriers - Belgorod and Khabarovsk - are nuclear submarines (APL). Their sizes are classified, but comparable to known submarines (we will rely on the characteristics of the smallest known Soviet / Russian ones).

Judging by the configuration of the hull, these are by no means particularly small-sized special-purpose ships, similar to the nuclear submarine of the 1851 project with nuclear power units of very low power. They look like a full-fledged submarine. Therefore, the comparison is based on the smallest boat of the 705 project. Its length is about 80 meters, and the largest case diameter is approximately 10 meters. Thus, the estimated length of the supertorpedo is 22 – 24 meter, caliber is 1,5 – 2 meter (fully corresponds to the proportions of the design and the known torpedoes of “normal” size), combat weight is 50 – 70 tons minimum. This is the displacement of a small submarine. Accordingly, the warhead - from 10 to 15 tons.

Can such a device reach the range of 10 thousands of kilometers? Yes. There are no people in it, that is, everything that ensures the habitability of personnel is not necessary. This sharply, significantly reduces the required displacement of the apparatus while maintaining the same tactical and technical characteristics. There is no need for ammunition, weapons reloading system - the torpedo has a single combat unit. Therefore, it is quite possible to equate to a normal submarine. The range of such ships today reaches 4000 – 5000 nautical miles, that is, almost 9000 kilometers, which is quite consistent with the characteristics stated on the slide. The power plant (EC) is possible both ordinary and nuclear. Normal power plant should be only air-independent, providing movement at full range in a submerged position. True, the travel speed is most likely to be relatively small, within the limits of the lowest noise level - 8 – 12 nodes. Nuclear power plant is achievable to build on the basis of a small-sized reactor with a capacity of several megawatts. Such in the USSR and Russia were made and are made today. Lack of personnel minimizes radiation protection requirements. The reactor is fully capable of being launched in automatic mode after the separation of the torpedo from the carrier. In this case, a very high speed of its course is allowed on the entire trajectory - up to 50 and more nodes.

That is, the creation of such a torpedo is not a problem, and in the short term. All the necessary components are already in place and partially produced in Russia. It remains to clarify the reality of the appearance of the corresponding mega level warhead.

As already noted, the megabomb made in 1961 had the weight of the entire 32 ton. That is, modern Russian science is quite capable of producing cobalt ammunition with a power of 100 – 150 megatons and even more within the 15-ton warhead. In addition, these estimates are based on the minimum indicators of the likely size of the supertorpedo. In fact, they can be much larger. Consequently, there will be more warheads (up to 20 – 25 tons). Thus, the project under discussion in modern Russia is quite technically and technologically feasible, and in a relatively short time.

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Requirements for the accuracy of the output of the supertorpedo to the area are very low. An error of even a few nautical miles will not lead to a noticeable decrease in impact efficiency.

Thus, most likely, on November 9, there was a deliberate information leakage aimed at demonstrating to our “partners” that a strategic deterrence system is being born in Russia, against which even in the long run no acceptable protection will be created (simply because the consequences of its use are global catastrophic) and thus make them sit down at a table of constructive negotiations.
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  1. Hiw
    Hiw 4 December 2015 20: 06 New
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    Then recently all the Anglo-Saxon shaitans have become a little more accommodating, and the Western press has begun to adequately cover events
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 4 December 2015 20: 10 New
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      The necessary leak. Even if this is a plausible disinformation, it’s still impressive. Especially potential damage. Or is someone seriously designing the Strait between Canada and Mexico named after Stalin?
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        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 4 December 2015 20: 38 New
          -86 qualifying.
          Quote: oleg-gr
          still impressive. Especially potential damage.

          NOT at all impressive!
          Its purpose (system "Status-6) is not destruction, but - RADIOACTIVE POLLUTION OF THE AREA !!! Ie - EARTH, PLANETS !!!
          1. builder
            builder 4 December 2015 20: 50 New
            125
            That's right, scare so scare! :
            1. Borets
              Borets 4 December 2015 21: 52 New
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              It also says that the half-life is 5,5 years. After one tingling, the earth will be usable.
              1. krot
                krot 5 December 2015 08: 33 New
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                One moment is very important! So that when trying to intercept, or destroy, the warhead of the torpedo fires! Then not a single NATO state will let US anti-submarine ships into its territory to destroy our Tsar Torpedo! They would prefer that she achieve her goal, rather than destroy their state! I think Very good quality torpedoes! ) Even the very existence of such weapons in Nast will force US satellites to reconsider their attitude to everything!
                1. edge
                  edge 7 December 2015 08: 46 New
                  +1
                  Quote: krot
                  So that when trying to intercept, or destroy, the warhead of the torpedo fires!

                  everything is much simpler, back in the days of the USSR, mini-nuclear b / ps were developed. undermining mini-torpedoes and from the effects of emy all electronics will die hi
              2. Bryanskiy_Volk
                Bryanskiy_Volk 6 December 2015 12: 32 New
                18
                Did you attend physics classes at school? The half-life is a decrease in radioactivity 2 times from the original, and not its complete absence. Those. after 5,5 years - 50%, after 11 years - 25%, after 16,5 years -14,5%, after 22 years - 7.25%, etc., respectively, from the initial level of radioactivity.
                With your Ava, it’s just a shame not to know such basic things.
                Annoying comments like this: IQ at the baseboard level, but you should definitely get your opinion about geopolitics for everyone to see. hi
                1. spiriolla-45
                  spiriolla-45 6 December 2015 13: 09 New
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                  And here, in fact, the half-life is not important, but at least a thousand years, if we are talking about retaliation. It means that we were given, we were not, and revenge inevitably overtook the adversaries. And what's the difference how much the area will be infected, if we all plunged into nothingness. After us, even a flood, even a fire.
                  1. Valerian
                    Valerian 6 December 2015 13: 41 New
                    0
                    totally agree
                  2. edge
                    edge 7 December 2015 08: 42 New
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                    Quote: spiriolla-xnumx
                    And here, in fact, the half-life is not important

                    be a little more attentive to the information, - the detonation occurs in the ocean, therefore, radioactive contamination will be minimal, due to the fact that the water is not compressible, the shock wave will cause seismic vibrations besides the wave, well, add here an amy (electromagnetic pulse): - guaranteed return of the United States to slave system.
                2. Tatyana_VV
                  Tatyana_VV 6 December 2015 17: 03 New
                  +3
                  So it is written about the life span of a generation (i.e., about 25 years), and not about five years. How harmful is 7% of the original? Yes, how much in the oceans will dissolve during this time. It will become worse for all survivors on the whole ball, but not much. In the Far East, I recall, in the area of ​​naturally increased radiation, almost giant vegetation grows.
            2. Sterlya
              Sterlya 5 December 2015 00: 53 New
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              Quote: stroitel
              That's right, scare so scare! :

              Yes, nevermind! There is something worse than the Death Star.
              Russia needs to learn. Once again we will take Berlin, Paris. Russia will NEVER leave from there!
              Enough!
              1. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 5 December 2015 08: 57 New
                10
                Quote: Sterlya
                Once again we will take Berlin, Paris.
                The last time we occupied the city of Berlin, we lost more than 20 million of our best people, army soldiers and civilians. Brutally and cruelly this was carried out, a bombed kindergarten in Stalingrad, a three-year-old girl burning in her death throes from pain and death. This must always be remembered. And when, at the command "Forward", you rush to the T-34 to the position of buried German tigers near Seelstadz, and when you give your BC to a living and healthy comrade. legs and can defend this kindergarten and will lie down on the tank "Tiger #" It has always been and will be, unfortunately
              2. Tatyana_VV
                Tatyana_VV 6 December 2015 17: 09 New
                +1
                What the hell is Berlin for us? Compare - and okay. It is better to tidy up areas with a good climate (soil) and useful deposits, well, and transportally convenient.
          2. ARES623
            ARES623 4 December 2015 21: 19 New
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            Quote: Baikonur
            NOT at all impressive!
            Its purpose (system "Status-6) is not destruction, but - RADIOACTIVE POLLUTION OF THE AREA !!! Ie - EARTH, PLANETS !!!

            I think it means radioactive contamination of the area that will remain after the descent from the coast of the water after the tsunami. The same Sivkov suggested that the wave would cover the east coast of the United States to a depth of about 600 km. Those. everything will be washed away from this strip, and at the same time it will leave a certain level of radiation that the surviving Americans will not be able to use this territory for economic purposes. Something will fall GB with Spain and France. Perhaps it will slightly flood Denmark with the Netherlands, especially in places with a height below 0 sea.
            1. Bator
              Bator 4 December 2015 23: 17 New
              +8
              I read somewhere that another "human rights activist" Sakharov suggested that such torpedoes of 100 megatons should be pushed along the coast of the United States, but they calculated that the tsunami wave would spread no more than 5 kilometers. And one of the generals said: "... we are not murderers of the civilian population."
            2. Koshak
              Koshak 5 December 2015 04: 46 New
              +7
              The main thing is that Peter does not hurt! stop
              1. solovald
                solovald 5 December 2015 07: 08 New
                +2
                What was the dam planned for? smile wink
          3. OlegLex
            OlegLex 4 December 2015 21: 37 New
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            radioactive contamination, no radioactive damage to all life on a vast territory for a period of five to six years. There will be no nuclear winter in this case (although hardly) but there will be a sterile clean area in ten years.
            1. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 4 December 2015 23: 14 New
              +3
              The half-life is about five and a half years! The contaminated area (sterile) will be suitable for use no earlier than in a hundred years! And this is an optimistic scenario that does not take into account secondary radiation.
            2. Bayonet
              Bayonet 5 December 2015 07: 14 New
              +3
              Quote: OlegLex
              There will be no nuclear winter

              Do you think nothing will come back? This is a nuclear war, and each side will try to use its arsenals to the maximum - die like that with music! hi
              1. edge
                edge 7 December 2015 08: 59 New
                0
                Quote: Bayonet
                Do you think nothing will come back? This is a nuclear war, and each side will try to use its arsenals to the maximum - die like that with music!

                the aggressor initially prepares for such a scenario ... therefore, the Americans dug up and mothballed a sea of ​​dugouts, shelters and bunkers. But against water, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, all this is useless
            3. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 5 December 2015 11: 08 New
              +6
              Quote: OlegLex
              There will be no nuclear winter in this case (although hardly) but there will be a sterile clean area in ten years.
              Winters, perhaps, will not be ... But AUTUMN is even very likely!
              We actually live on the planet OCEAN, incorrectly called the EARTH (3/4 of the planet are the seas and oceans, and the rest of the island is the words from the song).
              Scientists are horrified that the Gulf Stream can change its direction and deviate from the usual channel.
              Everyone thinks and is terrified of what will happen to the planet when the water warms by 1 * C, when the polar caps melt.
              Ocean - the lungs of the planet! Microalgae produce an overwhelming mass of oxygen for our blue planet ...
              Now imagine what will happen to all this when radiation destroys all life in the area of ​​the explosion and the current begins to carry it across the waters of the World Ocean!
              Radiological weapons are a terrible thing; they do not divide people into their own and enemies. It destroys all life, regardless of political preferences, color or religion. THIS IS AN OBJECT FROM PANDORA'S BOX!
              And they removed the veil of secrecy from him only so that the Americans shut up with their crazy ideas to end us by military means.
              1. Hitrovan07
                Hitrovan07 5 December 2015 15: 53 New
                +2
                And I believe that we were lucky to live on Earth - because, as I understand it, almost no planets have been found with land.
                1. martin-159
                  martin-159 7 December 2015 16: 10 New
                  0
                  What it means lucky?
            4. edge
              edge 7 December 2015 08: 53 New
              0
              Quote: OlegLex
              radioactive contamination, no radioactive damage to all life on a vast territory for a period of five to six years. There will be no nuclear winter in this case.

              if you remember, in not so old times, all types of detonation of a poison b / n-surface, underwater, ground, underground, air were worked out and tested .... No need to drop the warhead directly on the phishington, it is enough to bang at an altitude of 7km in the direction of movement of the air masses and truncated ....
          4. zoknyay82
            zoknyay82 4 December 2015 23: 15 New
            12
            It would be nice to completely abandon nuclear weapons, but we did not start this race, but to stop it means surrendering to the mercy of sworn partners. That they cannibals know the whole world.
          5. Svetlana
            Svetlana 4 December 2015 23: 15 New
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            A cobalt shell is optional. Shells made of other materials were also offered for different purposes .. For example, a shell made of depleted uranium. This uranium-238 is not used now - it lies in the dumps of mining and processing plants, so the cheap one - a valuable isotope of uranium-235 - is selected from it for nuclear thermal neutron reactors. . But the use of U-238 in thermonuclear blanket (blanket-shell) of promising thermonuclear reactors and bombs can increase the released nuclear energy by 10 times according to the fission-fusion-fission scheme compared to the fusion-fusion scheme. Therefore, to artificially reduce the power of Kuz'kin, the mother used the fission-synthesis scheme and an inert shell of steel and lead instead of the shell of U-238. With such an inert shell, the power of a nuclear weapon explosion was reduced to 58 Megatons.
            1. viktor561
              viktor561 5 December 2015 00: 12 New
              -10 qualifying.
              Well, what kind of nonsense - Uranus and Plutonium have not been used for 30 years in warhead charges - Thermonuclear (hydrogen) charge based on hydrogen isotopes - Tritium and Deuterium are hundreds of times cheaper and more powerful and lighter - schoolchildren
              1. viktor561
                viktor561 5 December 2015 03: 28 New
                -8
                Minus people - you at least read Wikipedia once you haven't learned physics --- "Thermonuclear weapon (hydrogen bomb) is a type of nuclear weapon, the destructive power of which is based on the use of the energy of the nuclear fusion reaction of light elements into heavier ones (for example, the fusion of one nucleus of a helium atom from two nuclei of deuterium atoms), at which a colossal amount of energy is released. " - uranium and plutonium have nothing to do with a thermonuclear warhead !!!!
                1. Sergey Sitnikov
                  Sergey Sitnikov 6 December 2015 14: 24 New
                  +1
                  more precisely - lithium deuteride
                2. I am human
                  I am human 7 December 2015 00: 29 New
                  0
                  Mutak 2nd finished completely
          6. Aleksandr Tot
            Aleksandr Tot 4 December 2015 23: 34 New
            +8
            Baikonur, faith fills in knowledge gaps. Forum participants believe in something. So do I. If you are "not at all impressed" by the author's argumentation - impressed with your information.
            Forum users will give up.
          7. Robinzon57
            Robinzon57 5 December 2015 01: 53 New
            0
            Quote: Baikonur
            NOT at all impressive!
            Its purpose (system "Status-6) is not destruction, but - RADIOACTIVE POLLUTION OF THE AREA !!! Ie - EARTH, PLANETS !!!

            And YOU Liberians, we thought we would play toys in response to the BSU? bully
          8. hrapon
            hrapon 5 December 2015 08: 24 New
            +1
            And who said that? General designer? Not. This is the assumption of journalists.

            An underwater explosion and tsunami may not cause radiation contamination of the coast. One such torpedo can destroy an entire naval base. It all depends on the choice of BG. RE is just one of the options.
          9. Skif83
            Skif83 5 December 2015 09: 41 New
            +3
            Cobalt 60 is still used in various fields, from medicine to agriculture.
            And if it's a deterrent, then why not? More likely - YES!
            There are all lamentations about ecology, a child’s tear, etc. - sideways!
            It's about the survival of the country and the people! Or are you ready to exchange the security of Russia and its peoples for the US ecology?
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 5 December 2015 11: 15 New
              +1
              Quote: Skif83
              Or are you ready to exchange the security of Russia and its peoples for the US ecology?

              The wrong message!
              With such an explosion, the talk will no longer be about * the US ecology * (the dead are not taken into account - they don’t care!), But about the ECOSYSTEM OF THE PLANET. And then everyone won’t get sickly. Arguments in the comment above.
              1. Svidetel 45
                Svidetel 45 5 December 2015 20: 21 New
                +2
                If our "partners" start a war to destroy Russia and our people and apply really appropriate systems, then I don't care what happens to the ecology of the entire planet. This weapon should then work as a RETURN weapon for those. who took such a step.
          10. Hitrovan07
            Hitrovan07 5 December 2015 15: 52 New
            0
            This is a weapon of retaliation - to avenge you.
          11. brr1
            brr1 6 December 2015 12: 22 New
            +1
            Its purpose is to make the enemy think before trying to pollute our territory.
          12. spiriolla-45
            spiriolla-45 6 December 2015 13: 02 New
            0
            And what do you want, so that after you are transglutated, the adversary remains to live on a clean planet?
          13. user
            user 6 December 2015 13: 05 New
            -2
            [quote] NOT at all impressive!
            Its purpose (system "Status-6) is not destruction, but - RADIOACTIVE POLLUTION OF THE AREA !!! [/ quote]

            The answer to your emotional statement is contained in one sentence

            [quote] In an explosion, inactive cobalt-59 turns into a relatively short-lived (half-life of about 5,5 years), but extremely radioactive cobalt-60

            And after 5,5 years it will be there as in an untouched forest and will not even be particularly fond.
          14. Mercenary
            Mercenary 6 December 2015 17: 41 New
            0
            I will somehow do not care deeply about the radioactive contamination of their area. If the mattresses get off the coils and attack Russia nuclear weapons first! Our doctrine does not imply the use of nuclear weapons first and are not going to attack anyone. So that Status-6 is needed.
          15. anykin
            anykin 7 December 2015 15: 45 New
            0
            The earth, the planet, will remain in its place. She is no stranger to dismantling mammals. And we, people, either agree or eat each other (enemy of the enemy, partner of a partner)). We do not trust each other's words, then we agree by putting knives, pistols, "Statuses", etc. to each other.
          16. anykin
            anykin 7 December 2015 15: 45 New
            0
            The earth, the planet, will remain in its place. She is no stranger to dismantling mammals. And we, people, either agree or eat each other (enemy of the enemy, partner of a partner)). We do not trust each other's words, then we agree by putting knives, pistols, "Statuses", etc. to each other.
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      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 4 December 2015 21: 20 New
        16
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The necessary leak. Even if this is a plausible disinformation, it’s still impressive. Especially potential damage. Or is someone seriously designing the Strait between Canada and Mexico named after Stalin?

        Yeah .. As a result of this "construction" on Earth, only cockroaches will survive.
        All this is actually very bad. The arms race in fact continues. And all this is due to the inability to simply agree on a human basis. And the blatant Saxons, the golden billion, transnational corporations, and the puppeteers who are behind all this are to blame! am
        1. boggy
          boggy 4 December 2015 23: 01 New
          +7
          Quote: GSH-18
          And the blatant Saxons, the golden billion, transnational corporations, and the puppeteers who are behind all this are to blame!



          For the last 15 years, talk about the gold billion has died out deeply. The tale of him has done its dastardly deed. The "elites" African, Eastern European, and ours - the former Soviet ones - fulfilled their dastardly mission - to grab as much as possible, throw everything into the gold-billion-dollar zone and have time to slip there ourselves. Those. worked as pumps pumping the welfare of their countries into this zone. Now this pump is almost no longer functioning - there is nothing to spit, the national troughs are empty and serious battles are already arising around them.
      4. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 4 December 2015 21: 25 New
        +9
        Cockroaches ran in, dung flies started bustling. Demonstrated a new fly swatter. Well, very effective.
        1. Throw
          Throw 4 December 2015 22: 06 New
          -14 qualifying.
          Yeah, the same drawings of space fly swatter painted coconuts in 80's. SOI was called.

          In the section "News" you need to enter a subsection
          "Coffee grounds - stuffing and fortune telling" laughing

          The author of tsifiri cuts directly from the air.
          But even if such an underwater fly swatter from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk goes to, for example, Los Angeles at full steam at 50 knots, it will reach him in 3 days. And why is such a "response" needed? And for whom ??
          1. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 4 December 2015 23: 16 New
            14
            And what is a nuclear "club" for? For guaranteed non-use of weapons by the enemy!
          2. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 5 December 2015 04: 45 New
            +3
            Quote: Lance
            section "News" you need to enter a subsection

            don’t stop people from becoming obsessed .. after all, the birth of another child prodigy ... laughing
            To add EW and Caliber here .. so Obama crawls on his knees to the Kremlin like a pretty ... wassat
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 5 December 2015 07: 19 New
              +5
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              EW and Caliber would be added here ..

              Well, certainly, so loved by some - PAMPERS !!! fellow
              1. Throw
                Throw 5 December 2015 09: 14 New
                +3
                Obama to the Kremlin on his knees crawls like a pretty ...

                And we will not vindictively let him go there!
                So it will be in front of the Spassky Tower cancer laughing
                1. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 5 December 2015 14: 22 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Lance
                  So it will be in front of the Spassky Tower cancer

                  Cancer is not humane, let him sit ....
          3. tolian
            tolian 5 December 2015 10: 05 New
            +1
            Can you read? After all, they are writing this deterrence weapon. The United States put forward a preemptive strike theory. We tell them - answer anyway!
          4. Svidetel 45
            Svidetel 45 5 December 2015 20: 25 New
            0
            This underwater "fly swatter" will not necessarily be launched from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, its carrier, the nuclear submarine, may be located somewhere closer to the US coast.
      5. Sterlya
        Sterlya 4 December 2015 23: 19 New
        +7
        I somehow do not care how to destroy the United States wassat Just like the naglosaktsy treat us. Yes, even drown in a pit of shit. I will not regret. (words may not be for liberals, I don't care about them either)
      6. Denis Obukhov
        Denis Obukhov 5 December 2015 01: 39 New
        +7
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The necessary leak. Even if this is a plausible disinformation, it’s still impressive. Especially potential damage. Or is someone seriously designing the Strait between Canada and Mexico named after Stalin?



        This weapon is not to sit the West at the negotiating table, but to sharply increase rates in a possible nuclear war, so that the West does not have the temptation to deliver the first disarming strike. In our doctrine, unlike the United States, it was never foreseen to be the first to launch a massive nuclear strike on US territory. In our concept of the use of strategic nuclear weapons, there has always been a calculation for a retaliatory strike and retaliatory strike, and therefore, unlike the United States, most of whose missiles are aimed at our positioned areas of strategic nuclear weapons deployment, our missiles are mainly aimed at peaceful cities, military and civilian infrastructure. Yes, uncompromisingly and cruelly, but it makes no sense to strike at empty missile silos after the enemy launched his nuclear missiles
      7. Lyton
        Lyton 5 December 2015 02: 49 New
        +1
        Yes, we’ll play it over when humanity destroys itself.
      8. edge
        edge 7 December 2015 08: 32 New
        0
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The necessary leak.

        the pace of accelerating the creation of quantum computer super-systems is now understood — in whose interests it is.
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 4 December 2015 20: 10 New
      +6
      Quote: HIW
      Then recently all the Anglo-Saxon shaitans have become a little more accommodating, and the Western press has begun to adequately cover events

      You rightly noticed ... Very modest steel! hi But this is not all trump cards still in Russia! hi
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 4 December 2015 20: 31 New
        +8

        So after all, "Status - 7", "Status - 8", etc. are still possible.

        1. tol100v
          tol100v 4 December 2015 21: 29 New
          0
          Quote: bulvas
          So after all, "Status - 7", "Status - 8", etc. are still possible.

          Why "Statuses"? After all, it is easier to lay land mines (NW) along the tectonics of the western coast of the SGA and calmly wait for the next trick of the obscurantists! For our "Losharik" it will be just a business trip. But building a vegetable garden with new carriers is probably not worth it. It will be a little expensive, and the timing also plays a role!
          1. mav1971
            mav1971 6 December 2015 13: 46 New
            -1
            Quote: Tol100v
            Quote: bulvas
            So after all, "Status - 7", "Status - 8", etc. are still possible.

            Why "Statuses"? After all, it is easier to lay land mines (NW) along the tectonics of the western coast of the SGA and calmly wait for the next trick of the obscurantists! For our "Losharik" it will be just a business trip. But building a vegetable garden with new carriers is probably not worth it. It will be a little expensive, and the timing also plays a role!



            Smart ass! now show on the map. where American guests will stand and wait in the wings ...
            Or you are so stupid, but you don’t understand. that they will not leave this without an adequate response?
        2. Koldunja
          Koldunja 4 December 2015 21: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: bulvas
          So after all, "Status - 7", "Status - 8", etc. are still possible.

          Yes, and "Status-4" and "Status-5" are probably already plowing a big puddle lol
        3. avt
          avt 4 December 2015 22: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: bulvas
          So after all, "Status - 7", "Status - 8", etc. are still possible.

          Well it’s possible, but now where is Status-1, Status-2, statues-3, Status-4, Status-5 wassat
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 7 December 2015 16: 34 New
            0
            Quote: avt
            Well it’s possible, but now where is Status-1, Status-2, statues-3, Status-4, Status-5

            Probably in the same place as Krasnoyarsk-1, 2, 3, ... 44 and Chelyabinsk-1, 2, 3, ... 39. smile
        4. Svetlana
          Svetlana 4 December 2015 23: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: bulvas
          So after all, "Status - 7", "Status - 8", etc. are still possible.

          In this series, it should be noted Status-666 ..
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        1. cniza
          cniza 4 December 2015 20: 36 New
          +8
          Quote: bulvas
          So after all, "Status - 7", "Status - 8", etc. are still possible.


          This topic has been held many times and we discussed that the stuffing was not random, the thing is very interesting.
          1. Dvm70
            Dvm70 4 December 2015 21: 09 New
            0
            This was an unauthorized disclosure of military (state) secrets. Alas. 100%
    3. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 4 December 2015 20: 12 New
      +2
      Did I miss something? belay

      Let us pay attention to the fact that today in the Russian Federation positions of supporters of the West are strong, mainly in the highest echelons of state administration, including the military-political one.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 4 December 2015 20: 13 New
        +8
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Did I miss something?

        Do you know the composition of the government of the Russian Federation? wink
    4. marlin1203
      marlin1203 4 December 2015 21: 24 New
      +4
      So here she is, what a "Kuz'ka mother" ...
      1. cap
        cap 4 December 2015 23: 11 New
        +3
        I repeat.
        This is not "Kuz'kina's mother" but "Kuz'kin's grandfather" bully
        Doesn't it remind anything laughing
    5. baku1999
      baku1999 4 December 2015 22: 42 New
      +3
      good arrogance, only dead arrogance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nothing personal, just business ...............
    6. vfwfr
      vfwfr 4 December 2015 23: 27 New
      0
      I support. +1
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    8. SSR
      SSR 5 December 2015 10: 58 New
      0
      But why did the author add England to the list of countries "accidentally" likely to suffer?
  2. avvg
    avvg 4 December 2015 20: 08 New
    +5
    "Status-6" is our new "Kuzkina Mother". The Americans and NATO are in a panic. Russia has shown a new "Kuzkin's mother".
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 4 December 2015 20: 24 New
      +4
      We will wet! bully All!
    2. arane
      arane 4 December 2015 21: 44 New
      +8
      Quote: avvg
      "Status-6" is our new "Kuzkina Mother". The Americans and NATO are in a panic. Russia has shown a new "Kuzkin's mother".


      That's interesting. Everyone is happy. And about two months ago I suggested something similar on the forum. They kicked me in the trash. They said that I only serve on the firewall. Where is the logic?
  3. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 4 December 2015 20: 09 New
    20
    Dear American Friends! Fluff up your radars and locators and listen to the "Pioneer Dawn" program. (x / f 72 meters)

    They’ll bring them to sin, all the twigs and twigs, but there’s a limit! am
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 4 December 2015 20: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: Major Yurik
      ! Fluff your radars and locators and

      They already dismissed, most likely about a similar system the United States was rumored for quite some time, in September there was news in which the United States accused Russia of creating submarine drones with a nuclear charge. And then at the meeting they decided to confirm the rumors in this way. The United States is already going to build surface drones to search for submarines (though we are talking about ordinary submarines, not drones).
  4. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 4 December 2015 20: 13 New
    11
    Since Russia cannot keep up with the United States in the construction of multi-purpose submarines (I recall every year in August, the United States launches a new Virginia-class submarine and enters the Navy in December), asymmetric responses to the emerging threat must be sought.
  5. guzik007
    guzik007 4 December 2015 20: 14 New
    10
    Well then, since such a booze has gone ...
  6. viktor561
    viktor561 4 December 2015 20: 14 New
    14
    Well, this system of underwater thermonuclear explosions in the Atlantic was proposed by Sakharov — according to his calculations — almost all of America and half of Western Europe will be swept backward (this requires super charges) - they are not vulnerable to air defense - the damage is catastrophic! Atmospheric radiation pollution is minimal - and maybe there are already such charges repeat
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 4 December 2015 20: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: viktor561
      Well, this system of underwater thermonuclear explosions in the Atlantic - was still proposed by Sakharov - according to his calculations - almost all of America and half of Western Europe will be swept away by a backward wave (this requires super charges) -

      There, it seems, the concept was different, the carrier submarine (of a special design) delivers a huge torpedo to the US coast and launches it. The new Status-6 project involves the launch of an underwater vehicle, right from our shores, as I understand it (otherwise why the range of 10000 kilometers).
      1. viktor561
        viktor561 4 December 2015 22: 06 New
        +2
        No - there the concept is simpler and more ingenious - the charges are calculated and installed quickly - (and now they’re not standing yet) - just press a button - and the rest of the concept is for safety and distraction - America is not vulnerable from space - but very vulnerable from the ocean - it’s not in vain ours the submarine fleet is gaining strength !!!!
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 5 December 2015 11: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: viktor561
          America is not vulnerable from space

          Why did you get such crap? The fact that there is a treaty banning the deployment of nuclear weapons in outer space does not mean that Sarmat will not have an orbital ICBM, and our SDGs (new warheads) will be delivered to the States on dry carts! yes
    2. mav1971
      mav1971 6 December 2015 14: 08 New
      -3
      Quote: viktor561
      Well, this system of underwater thermonuclear explosions in the Atlantic was proposed by Sakharov — according to his calculations — almost all of America and half of Western Europe will be swept backward (this requires super charges) - they are not vulnerable to air defense - the damage is catastrophic! Atmospheric radiation pollution is minimal - and maybe there are already such charges repeat


      What are you carrying?
      What is "all America"?
      What is the backward wave?
      What are the graduates of MEPhI. who do you want to chat with?
      Where are you from such a "homemade"?
      What kind of kindergarten did you finish?
      I don’t ask about a normal university. for in a normal university they do not give knowledge. and learning a systems approach. And you - he is at zero.

      I recommend climbing on the Internet and see:
      1. Scheme of action of underwater nuclear explosions. Have to spend a couple of days.
      2. The results of the analysis of the Asian Tsunami 2004 of the year. With an indication of its energy and wave propagation patterns both along the coastal zone and along the coast.
      Analyze both points.
      And right away your d-b-and-l-and-z-m is over.
      If you are somehow capable of thinking ...
      D, B!
  7. todhunter
    todhunter 4 December 2015 20: 20 New
    +4
    And if you just lay down nuclear landmines off the coast of the SGA, it’s cheaper and more secretive to have a button for one person, more efficient for all 3 points
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 4 December 2015 20: 24 New
      +3
      Quote: todhunter
      And if you just lay down nuclear landmines off the coast of the SGA, it’s cheaper and more secretive to have a button for one person, more efficient for all 3 points

      The fact is that they must be laid in advance, and this gives the enemy time to find and neutralize them. Each such ammunition is not cheap, in addition, having found such a "gift", "partners" will start yelling to the whole world about our bloodlust and inadequacy.
    2. viktor561
      viktor561 4 December 2015 22: 07 New
      0
      So in the beginning it was and is belay
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 December 2015 11: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: todhunter
      and one person’s button,

      What are you saying !!! belay
      And I "arrogantly" always believed that THREE! yes
      How I was deeply mistaken ... bully
  8. Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 4 December 2015 20: 20 New
    +3
    more and more powerful ... just like some kind of crazy nut will split this ball ((
    1. technical
      technical 4 December 2015 21: 06 New
      +5
      This weapon is designed for revenge, that is, at that moment when we will be gone. Or do you want to be killed, and your enemy will use the ball and fertilize your flowering garden with your ashes.
      1. Jozhkin Cat
        Jozhkin Cat 4 December 2015 21: 34 New
        +2
        in the radioactive garden))
  9. todhunter
    todhunter 4 December 2015 20: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
    more and more powerful ... just like some kind of crazy nut will split this ball ((

    The ball has been pricked more than once, there is evidence - Moheje Daru was apparently destroyed by a nuclear explosion, and this was about 5000 years BC.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 December 2015 20: 37 New
      +2
      With Moheje Daru, it’s still not clear what to make such high-profile statements.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 5 December 2015 07: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Vadim237
        With Moheje Daru, it’s still not clear what to make such high-profile statements.

        True, speculation and frank invention is full! Analysis of samples brought from the shores of the Indus showed that soil and brick melted at a temperature of 1400-1500 ° C. The temperature in the fiery tornado that swept Dresden after the Allied bombing reached 1500 degrees. Notice the same thing - no nuclear explosions.
        Excavations of Mohenjo Daro.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 5 December 2015 09: 59 New
          0
          Yes, this is most likely a meteorite exploded right above the city.
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 5 December 2015 12: 07 New
          +2
          Quote: Bayonet
          The temperature in the fiery tornado that swept Dresden after the Allied bombing reached 1500 degrees.
          A little smaller: the 1000-1200 * C lock. It is called a fiery tornado. But for this, multi-storey stone houses are needed to create the effect of an open-hearth furnace with oxygen blasting.
          The foundations of Moheje Dar are brick, not concrete, as in Dresden. They simply could not stand such loads. So the fiery tornado is canceled. It remains ...
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 5 December 2015 13: 21 New
            -1
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            It remains ...

            But not a nuclear explosion. And then we have so many "scientific" hypotheses - then highly developed aliens from other star systems are guided by the drawings on the rocks (why are they not around our airports lol ), then the ancestors barely mastered the processing of metals, atomic bombs explode! smile hi
          2. mav1971
            mav1971 6 December 2015 14: 11 New
            0
            Quote: BoA KAA
            Quote: Bayonet
            The temperature in the fiery tornado that swept Dresden after the Allied bombing reached 1500 degrees.
            A little smaller: the 1000-1200 * C lock. It is called a fiery tornado. But for this, multi-storey stone houses are needed to create the effect of an open-hearth furnace with oxygen blasting.
            The foundations of Moheje Dar are brick, not concrete, as in Dresden. They simply could not stand such loads. So the fiery tornado is canceled. It remains ...


            Wooden villages burn out in a fiery tornado with a combination of conditions of location and weather.
            This has happened more than ten times.
            So even without high-rise buildings and stone - the phenomenon of a fire storm is achieved.
  10. pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 4 December 2015 20: 24 New
    +1
    And why such difficulties? Well, perhaps that scare. According to unspecified data, in the 1970s, the option of undermining (in case of emergency) in the Atlantic off the U.S. coast of the submarine itself with all nuclear ammunition on board was considered. It was planned that the tsunami would reach the mountain range.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 December 2015 12: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: Pilot bin-bom
      in the 1970s, the option of undermining (in case of emergency) in the Atlantic off the US coast the submarine itself with all nuclear ammunition on board was considered.
      It's fake! Yabp just do not explode from detonation, this is not TNT! The maximum that is possible is to destroy the shell and get p / a pollution ...
  11. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 4 December 2015 20: 29 New
    +1
    I wonder why everyone bothers so much with these non-volatile power plants? Isn’t it easier to install a small megawatt of 10 megawatts in a diesel Varshavyanka (10 megawatts = 13596 horsepower, for comparison, reactors with a capacity of 190 megawatts for atomic submarines, but there’s a displacement of 3 times more, but it wouldn’t be enough).
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 4 December 2015 20: 54 New
      +4
      Because the noise. In a small enclosure, it will be difficult to hide the noise of the reactor and systems.
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 4 December 2015 21: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: dvina71
        noise of the reactor and systems.

        And the reactor's life support systems themselves will not fit into the Varshavyanka volumes.
      2. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 4 December 2015 23: 00 New
        0
        Quote: dvina71
        Because the noise. In a small enclosure, it will be difficult to hide the noise of the reactor and systems.

        Well, the noise of diesel generators is hidden (when the submarine pops up and goes under the snorkel), by the way, diesel generators are no longer needed, they can be removed, since now the batteries would charge a mini nuclear reactor, and huge tanks for diesel fuel also become no longer needed.
    2. technical
      technical 4 December 2015 21: 12 New
      +1
      The question is cost. Although this is also a question.
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 December 2015 12: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      Isn’t it easier to install a 10 megawatt small nuclear reactor in Varshavyanka’s diesel

      It happened before. In 68, the VAU-651 with a capacity of 1985 MW was put on the K-6 (pr0,6E). An uninhabited cylindrical container L = 8m was welded under the 6,5th compartment; d = 2,9m; m = 70t. Resource = 12000h, T of continuous operation = 2000h provided D n / a = 7000 miles at V = 4,0uz. The vaunted German pr212F has a VNEU weighing 200 tons, gives a speed of 4,0uz, while the VAU-6 gave 6,0 knots while supplying all ship consumers with electricity.
      Disadvantages: AZ worked at a roll of 25 *, it was turned off in the NP. And so the boat served in the SF until 1993.
  12. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 4 December 2015 20: 31 New
    +2
    Or maybe we crave? (Just kidding)
  13. prohtank
    prohtank 4 December 2015 20: 31 New
    0
    take a rocket from ISKANDER to push into this torpedo in front of the coast to shoot even farther
  14. timhelmet
    timhelmet 4 December 2015 20: 35 New
    +2
    The article was confused by the author’s clear landmark status-6 for the United States. Of course, a hedgehog is clear to whom we are making a bun. However, for others it may work.
    And more: Now for anti-submarine lines. Here the probability of spotting this weapon is from 5-8 to 15 percent
    Where are the numbers from?

    And so of course, the US coast - their Achilles heel. No coasts - no USA.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 December 2015 12: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: timhelmet
      However, for others it may work.

      The trouble is that the "others" are too close to our territory. Therefore - a personal gift for the elite! Otherwise they will be offended. laughing
  15. avva2012
    avva2012 4 December 2015 20: 36 New
    +4
    How scary to live. We are really crazy (humanity). Here the green men will fly in and utilize us to hell.
    1. technical
      technical 4 December 2015 21: 33 New
      0
      So you have to live while you live. And still, everyone will have to die.
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  17. avdkrd
    avdkrd 4 December 2015 20: 41 New
    +5
    Radioactive contamination with isotopes not typical for a nuclear (hydrogen) warhead is most likely due to the use of a nuclear reactor as a power plant on a "torpedo". Otherwise, the range of such a super torpedo cannot be explained. It makes sense. Indeed a doomsday weapon.
  18. zekaze1980
    zekaze1980 4 December 2015 20: 42 New
    0
    THING! (As was said by one hero in the movie Brother 2)
  19. Hiw
    Hiw 4 December 2015 20: 44 New
    +5
    Now you can arrange a psychic attack on them, organize another leak of information (disinformation), like this - "the government of the Russian Federation announces free distribution of wine and vodka and other products, including delicacies. Announces from" .. "the number of holidays forever. Announces general amnesty. This day is declared a worldwide holiday of victory over evil. " - Here the Americans will then halve the population from heart attacks and diarrhea
    1. Koshak
      Koshak 5 December 2015 04: 52 New
      +2
      The numbers are so from February 30, let them go nuts drinks
    2. Captain45
      Captain45 5 December 2015 15: 07 New
      0
      Quote: HIW
      "The government of the Russian Federation announces a free distribution of wine and vodka and other products, including delicacies. It announces holidays from" .. "to forever. Announces a general amnesty. This day is declared a worldwide holiday of victory over evil." -

      Ahh ... I get it fellow , from December 30 to January 14, we are training these days. It’s true for the time being for our money. laughing
  20. avva2012
    avva2012 4 December 2015 20: 46 New
    +1
    Well, there may not be isotopes, but where will it be?
  21. vglazunov
    vglazunov 4 December 2015 20: 49 New
    +3
    A very convenient thing for the disposal of nuclear waste in the garden of the State Department :)
  22. bad
    bad 4 December 2015 20: 56 New
    +3
    There remains a version of a deliberate throw-in - an “information bomb”. However, here everything is not so clear. Three options are acceptable.
    - "I am the daughter of a general staff officer, and believe me, everything is not so simple here .." laughing .. could not resist .. the weighty opinion of "Svidomo" audience is not heard on the topic .. or "censor" went bankrupt? .. laughing
  23. HARDDEN_KMV
    HARDDEN_KMV 4 December 2015 21: 04 New
    0
    As I understand it, option 6 won in the competition! Well then, the norm!
  24. Flinky
    Flinky 4 December 2015 21: 07 New
    +1
    Sivkov seems to be military, but does not understand that the reactor itself can serve as a full warhead.
    Moreover, one must be aware of the degree of secrecy and the eternal habit of our armed forces - to demonstrate at least what already exists as a prototype.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 December 2015 13: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: Flinky
      Sivkov seems to be military, but does not understand that the reactor itself can serve as a full warhead.

      Warhead - no. Source p / a infection - yes.
      The problem of the "explosion" of the nuclear power plant seriously worried the command of the fleet and the crew of Lenkom. Therefore, the hand of Academician Aleksandrov wrote in the logbook of the boat: "The explosion of the reactor is excluded" - and the signature.
      Under the most unfavorable conditions, the core can penetrate and "sink" into the reactor vessel. The flux of neutrons is sharply reduced due to their capture by structural elements and the extinction of the chain reaction.
      BUT! radioactive "stench" will be in abundance!
  25. Snail N9
    Snail N9 4 December 2015 21: 09 New
    -6
    "A poster" with supposedly "secret" information, yes, this is "something with something" - drawn, probably for schoolchildren, or by the schoolchildren themselves, well, are there really those who really believe that what is painted there, really "secret"? Haha. Creation-R&D, manufacturing of a gigantic torpedo, with a cruising range of 10000 km, capable of evading an anti-submarine, overcome several lines of an enemy anti-aircraft defense and accurately reach the place of detonation ... in cost, labor intensity, commensurate with the creation of the submarine itself, in addition, without a nuclear power plant and the crew simply cannot do there, well, it is impossible to go 10000 km on autopilot, and even maneuver when evading ASW forces. It is easier to use an ordinary submarine with a mounted nuclear charge of enormous power and a suicide crew.
    1. avdkrd
      avdkrd 5 December 2015 00: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: Snail N9
      Well, it’s impossible to go 10000 km on autopilot, and even maneuver when evading the forces of anti-aircraft defense. It is easier to use an ordinary submarine with a mounted nuclear charge of enormous power and a crew of suicide bombers.

      I do not agree with you. Modern inertial systems will easily make it possible to obtain the necessary accuracy even without astro correction and GPS, although there are a bunch of methods according to the principle of the same cruise missiles - periodically turn on the sonar and compare it with the reference bottom maps. - + -10 or even 20km are not critical for a 50mt warhead. The entire anti-submarine maneuver can be reduced to a large depth of course (Americans do not dive deeper than 500m) and, moreover, no one forces roaring the entire ocean at maximum speed. This is not a weapon of the first strike (and even if the first one) and it doesn’t matter how long the package will sail to the states. The cost will be at the level of a ballistic missile, and not a submarine, there are no means of life support and not even the fact that the reactor is an engine. There may be the same radioisotope batteries that are an order of magnitude cooler than any non-radioactive counterparts. This can also explain the infection by isotopes - I saw cesium, which are still there, I'm afraid to assume. There is one more point - after the first exchange of blows (and there will be an exchange), ALL available special warheads will be applied, including on surface groups. What anti-submarine capabilities will the fleet of our sworn friends have after thousands of nuclear weapons are pulled over the earth and ocean almost simultaneously? At the same time, no one has canceled strategic missile carriers, the hunt for which has never been particularly successful. Strategists on alert are more often discovered by chance, in addition, they are more vulnerable, since they cannot launch missiles from maximum depth, and Status-6 can.
  26. bad
    bad 4 December 2015 21: 11 New
    0
    SOI mattresses for the USSR invented .. and we are worse .. let them fork out .. just how we differ from mattresses, they have not made their own system .. and we have "Status-6" it may already be .. laughing
  27. KRIG55
    KRIG55 4 December 2015 21: 15 New
    +4
    It seems to me that if a serious upheaval occurs, the issue of radioactive contamination of the area will recede into the background.
    1. avdkrd
      avdkrd 5 December 2015 21: 50 New
      0
      Quote: KRIG55
      It seems to me that if a serious upheaval occurs, the issue of radioactive contamination of the area will recede into the background.

      In fact, modern nuclear weapons are relatively clean. It’s clear that radiation is of little use, but during the Cold War, only we and the Americans blew up 1947 munitions (796 and 1151, respectively) with a combined energy release of more than 545 MT, plus China, India, Pakistan, France and England. It is clear that all tests have been stretched for more than 40 years, but at the moment this is the smallest environmental problem. The greatest problem in the event of a major war will be created by nuclear plants, or rather, their destruction, and in the foci of nuclear destruction it can be without any serious consequences after 10-15 days. In a nuclear explosion, short-lived isotopes (Iodine-131, half-life of 8 days) are released, of course there is the same cesium and strontium, but in much smaller quantities (by an order of magnitude) than during reactor accidents. For example, if instead of the Chernobyl station an ammunition with a capacity of even 100kt was pulled, then today the only relatively dirty place would be only an epicenter. Relatively, it’s a little more than the norm, and not like today, despite the fact that the power during the explosion of the reactor was no more than 10kt, and there are opinions that only 1kt.
  28. afrikanez
    afrikanez 4 December 2015 21: 16 New
    +1
    Well, maybe even this leak will allow the Americans to set their brains in place. good Messieurs capitalists gentlemen, oh how snickering. It’s time to know the measure.
  29. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 4 December 2015 21: 17 New
    -3
    The people, uhhh, aren't you tired of discussing the balcony yet?
    What are 10 thousand kilometers?
    Where will the torpedo arrive in this case? Should I launch it from the Barents?
    Currents, various densities, what other things do you not take into account?
    Which sperm whale wants to mate with such a torpedo ...
    With what speed will this bandura "surf the Bolshoi Theater"?
    Where has the "Ear" American gone?
    .
    Ours launched stashilka, but here everything is seriously discussed.
    Spruce ...
    Yes, remember "Star Wars". How were they neutralized? Just a racket loaded with gravel.
    How can you neutralize a healthy underwater bandura?
    Which should explode in certain coordinates?
    Well, the way she begins to determine these coordinates is to neutralize them.
    .
    And the upright torpedo - I hope everyone understands - is nonsense. Yes, if also with a combined-cycle engine ......
    1. ARES623
      ARES623 4 December 2015 21: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      Well, the way she begins to determine these coordinates is to neutralize them.

      Whose side would you like to be on? Is the checkbox red and the sayings "striped"? Not lost, in an hour?
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 6 December 2015 14: 21 New
        0
        Quote: ARES623
        Quote: Bashibuzuk
        Well, the way she begins to determine these coordinates is to neutralize them.

        Whose side would you like to be on? Is the checkbox red and the sayings "striped"? Not lost, in an hour?


        He is on the side - non-idiots.
        What can you do, there is a normal person who writes normal things - then the fools immediately write him in the American singers.
        Have you tried to think with your head?

        In order to have a chance of small detection - the torpedo should go in low-noise low speed. those. 4-5 nodes.
        How long will it go to the point? Couple of weeks?

        The points of probable undermining (which really can at least somehow participate in the creation of a little tsunami, but there are really very few of them - this is not the whole of the Atlantic or Pacific, as it seems to idiots) can easily be calculated by specialists in hydrology and seismogroffs.
        Accordingly, control over access to such points is easily feasible.

        Have you ever tried to think?
        Or do you have one gyrus and you as an ensign need to explain 2 times?
    2. opus
      opus 4 December 2015 23: 33 New
      +6
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      Where will the torpedo arrive in this case? Should I launch it from the Barents?

      where you need to go:
      bathymetric navigation. Maps for one hundred years in the afternoon.
      (“Hydroacoustic technology for ocean research and development”, under the editorship of VV Bogorodsky, L .: Hydrometeoizdat, 1984), (“Acoustics of the ocean floor”, under the editorship of W. Cooperman, F. Jensen, M .: World, 1984).
      Sequentially going around the given area, they compose its digital map, where each point of the seabed with the geographic coordinates i, j corresponds to a set of numbers where n = T · f. The obtained values, together with their corresponding geographic coordinates, are stored on any medium of computer 6 (for example, on a hard disk). By consecutively bypassing a given area, make up its digital navigation map of the seabed..


      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      Currents, various densities, what other things do you not take into account?

      even as, all the same as with a submarine or a torpedo database. And the thermocline is taken into account
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      With what speed will this bandura "surf the Bolshoi Theater"?

      very slow. But economically.
      This is not a tool for Prompt Global Strike (PGS).
      The task is to approach quietly and skerk in the right place, wait
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      Where did the "Ear" American go?

      The ear does not take everything.
      SOSUS with a linear antenna length of about 300 m provides the reception of signals of all frequencies, characteristic of submarines.
      And if not?
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 December 2015 13: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      Well, the way she begins to determine these coordinates is to neutralize them.

      On the bottom topography, for example. Well, how do you neutralize it? Read about Terkom? now imagine the same under water ... bully
      1. Mister22408
        Mister22408 5 December 2015 15: 29 New
        +1
        Quietly, quietly, listening to the seabed (so as not to cut the active GAS - suddenly a sausage, etc. ... hears ... reflected ...) on the MMX crept on a kilometer, checking the map of thermoclines, using the ANN current on the OGK, talking with with whales, in order to find out over currents and using ADD as a correction, a terrible thing ... With a grater, grish :-) Rather, there is another system. :-)
        1. Bashibuzuk
          Bashibuzuk 5 December 2015 20: 23 New
          0
          Ah yes Mr. 22408, oh yes .... well, I see.
          Perhaps the only one who entered was the speech about.
          Launching a torpedo with a functioning "combat intelligence" system - are all the States worth such an expensive system?
          ....
          As thought, people will begin to object from the experience of submariners.
          But not from the experience of combat robotic systems.
      2. mav1971
        mav1971 6 December 2015 14: 23 New
        0
        Quote: BoA KAA
        Quote: Bashibuzuk
        Well, the way she begins to determine these coordinates is to neutralize them.

        On the bottom topography, for example. Well, how do you neutralize it? Read about Terkom? now imagine the same under water ... bully


        A grater can work with a laser lidar.
        What non-acoustic will work in water?
        What would not give out the presence of the device?
  30. Eulogius
    Eulogius 4 December 2015 21: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: todhunter
    And if you just lay down nuclear landmines off the coast of the SGA, it’s cheaper and more secretive to have a button for one person, more efficient for all 3 points

    And you somehow did not think that these gifts are already there, even with that "cold" ...
    1. viktor561
      viktor561 4 December 2015 23: 57 New
      0
      And who knows what is there! - most likely there is! It was elementary to install - and huge glades in Siberia for the passage of super long radio waves - (only they propagate in the water) and huge stations for generating these waves - they say that there is an underwater "Kuzkina mother"
  31. BOB044
    BOB044 4 December 2015 21: 21 New
    +2
    Kuzkina mother in Russian is Status 6.
  32. SVD
    SVD 4 December 2015 21: 22 New
    +2
    The author lost sight of one more time - once this unit without people, then the possibilities of its immersion are higher, i.e. a torpedo can travel at a depth of more than 1 km, and its detection will be very, very difficult.
    1. Bashibuzuk
      Bashibuzuk 4 December 2015 21: 26 New
      0
      And how does this torpedo of yours understand that it is time to surface?
      And to what depth?
      And then suddenly, during the ascent, she will come across the ruins of the Atlanteans, and she will decide that it is more interesting for her. And world science.
      And then suddenly, in general, he thinks that he does not want to be suicide.
      And turn back ....
      ....
      Fantasy should be limited sometimes, no?
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 4 December 2015 21: 44 New
        +5
        This crap will not come up, and as a self-respecting piece of iron, it won’t think what is wrong. She’s just in advance, for a month, at a speed of 10-12 knots, she’ll just come to the point with an accuracy of + some miles, will lie at the bottom at a depth of 1000 meters and will wait for the team. How to orient and command her? That is, we have scientists who did not run away for soldering foie gras to the enemy. I think they’ll decide.
        1. Mister22408
          Mister22408 4 December 2015 22: 13 New
          -3
          And now the most terrible troops - "political commissars-titiretiki" are on the attack ...
        2. Per se.
          Per se. 4 December 2015 23: 11 New
          -2
          Quote: ARES623
          This crap will not come up, and as a self-respecting piece of iron, it won’t think what is wrong.
          The cruise missile goes to the target with the information embedded, both in flight navigation in general and in the terrain. It is not supposed to have to change the route when detected by the enemy. How "crap" will navigate in the water column, where it is necessary to take into account not only the general depths, but also the bottom relief (depressions and underwater rocks), underwater currents? This is despite the fact that the speed of the underwater vehicle is incommensurate with the speeds of cruise missiles, which, in addition, do not have a range of 10000 kilometers. Where it will sail and when, if the enemy does not detect it earlier, does not inspire much optimism. It is depressing that in the 60st century it was necessary to remember what was rejected in the early XNUMXs of the last century. Iran or North Korea would give something like that, wherever it went for their level ... It would be better to think about the revival of the "Spiral" theme, but about "cheap and effective", so low-noise diesel-electric boats with nuclear missile launchers, "grazing" off the coast USA, the Yankees would have scared more.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 5 December 2015 10: 17 New
            +1
            Another interesting thing is how long it will take for this super torpedo to cover the distance from the coast of the Far East to the west coast of the United States - if it is used in the Pacific Ocean direction - until it arrives, the war will end long ago, and in this case the meaning of its use will be reduced to zero, now all armies of the world give priority to the creation of weapons of "rapid destruction", like hypersonic missiles and gliding warheads, and against this background, Status 6 looks like something out of the ordinary, most likely this project is nothing more than disinformation - a scarecrow for the enemy and with reality which has nothing in common.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 5 December 2015 13: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Vadim237
              Another interesting thing is how long it will take for this super torpedo to cover the distance from the coast of the Far East to the west coast of the USA
              Vadim, take a closer look at the picture over the general’s shoulder. Maybe you still notice the PLA carrier there! Then questions with 10000km will disappear like eggs from a tax in kind! yes
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 5 December 2015 21: 10 New
                0
                But the carrier will also have to overcome this distance - it will be controlled a week after the start of the war, and the ICBM warheads 20-30 minutes after the declaration of war - they felt the difference.
              2. mav1971
                mav1971 6 December 2015 14: 29 New
                0
                Quote: BoA KAA
                Quote: Vadim237
                Another interesting thing is how long it will take for this super torpedo to cover the distance from the coast of the Far East to the west coast of the USA
                Vadim, take a closer look at the picture over the general’s shoulder. Maybe you still notice the PLA carrier there! Then questions with 10000km will disappear like eggs from a tax in kind! yes


                it seems to me that the entire amersky submarine will gather at the exit to the sea of ​​these carriers and it will go in direct acoustic contact. and none of the amers will even "hesitate" to show loudly their presence up to the physical contact of the boats.
                For this is not an ordinary boat. This is the bearer of "Kuzka's mother" - the attitude towards him will be appropriate.
        3. viktor561
          viktor561 5 December 2015 00: 06 New
          +1
          I repeat to those who have not read - And who knows what is there! - most likely there is! It was elementary to install - and huge glades in Siberia for the passage of super long radio waves - (only they propagate in the water) and huge antennas and stations for generating these waves - they say that there is an underwater "Kuz'kina mother"
      2. Hyppopotut
        Hyppopotut 4 December 2015 22: 26 New
        +6
        Dear, read the literature on navigation.
        Back in 1967, a group of Soviet nuclear submarines under the command of Admiral Sorokin made round-the-world scuba diving (i.e., without ascent), moreover, they were not noticed by the United States systems, although they were encountered with them. I think navigation systems have improved significantly since then.
        By the way, this is another pebble in the garden of those who spread misinformation about the "roaring cows".
        1. Per se.
          Per se. 5 December 2015 12: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Hyppopotut
          Dear, read the literature on navigation.
          It was not about a submarine with a crew, but about a torpedo (or an underwater robot). Yes, the passage of our nuclear submarines of Admiral Sorokin was carried out without surfacing, but this does not mean that the boats could not reach the periscope depth. It is hardly correct at all to compare the means of navigation of a nuclear submarine with a trained crew and a torpedo-robot. For modern submarines, various means of underwater navigation are used - navigation systems. The composition of such complexes, along with an inertial navigation system, which makes it possible to determine the current geographical coordinates of a boat, includes radar equipment. The navigation complex includes various means of underwater navigation and an astronavigation system consisting of stabilized sextant periscopes (ensuring the accuracy of determining the location of the submarine up to 5 km) and a radiosextant that determines the location of the ship by radio emission. In addition, there are hydroacoustic navigation devices (echo sounders, echo-sounders, indicators of the contours of the ice hole), as well as auto-plotters (which does not replace their control by people) and electronic computing systems. Underwater navigation has a constant reference to the current time, whether it be the state of the weather (calm, storm), time of day (day, night), general geographic features of the place, in general, the state of the underwater environment (strong underwater current). Even a cruise missile has an advantage in its flight navigation over an underwater robot, especially when it comes to great depths and a range of 10000 kilometers. And where is the disinformation about the "roaring cows"? Just our boats "black holes" could complement nuclear submarines on alert with a special charge CD. If we were to scare the Americans with atomic tsunamis, then the "misinformation" about the bottom atomic bombs already laid from some "scows" along the shores of the United States would look cooler.
  33. PiP
    PiP 4 December 2015 21: 30 New
    +7
    Given that the CIA and the FBI receive intelligence from the Internet and the media, this "leak" is correct. Let their military-industrial complex overreach from the development of counteraction. If this is a real project, it is not bad either. wink small forces "infliction of guaranteed unacceptable damage to the territory of the country ..."
  34. NEXUS
    NEXUS 4 December 2015 21: 40 New
    +3
    As a constraining factor, the Status-6 project (if it is not a fake or disinformation, but real plans) will be cleaner than Bulava and Sarmat combined.
    1. ARES623
      ARES623 4 December 2015 22: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: NEXUS
      As a constraining factor, the Status-6 project (if it is not a fake or disinformation, but real plans) will be cleaner than Bulava and Sarmat combined.

      Mace with Sarmat will also find their application. From the center of the country, they will quite calmly overcome the active sector, and ABMs will pass over the USA. It should be borne in mind that the premature detonation of nuclear warheads of several tens of kilotons at an altitude of 400 km above the Earth’s surface will create electromagnetic radiation on an area of ​​more than 4 million square kilometers (plot 2000x2000 km), which will burn all the microelectronic equipment. For in the territory in the conductor of 10 m a current pulse of 400A will be created. There is no need to write down the consequences for computer technology, and everything in the USA is controlled by it. And if government agencies and municipalities still somehow protect the network from electromagnetic radiation, then every commercial vehicle, sewer and water pumps, etc. it is impossible to protect in principle. This is a situation where it would be better not to touch the charge of the nuclear weapons. In addition, the Yellowstone Caldera is waiting for our signal ... Mace, Sarmat, and Yars will come in handy ..
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 4 December 2015 22: 07 New
        +4
        Quote: ARES623
        Mace with Sarmat will also find their application.

        I spoke about the CONSTRAINTING FACTOR, and not about the application. Whatever it is, even the last id_i_o_t-ruler does not want to start the Third World War, not to mention sensible people.
        On the subject of World War III, I always ask myself only one question, "Are my family and child ready to survive it? It would not hurt some" hotheads "to ask themselves this question more often.
        1. mihasik
          mihasik 4 December 2015 23: 03 New
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          On the subject of World War III, I always ask myself only one question, "Are my family and child ready to survive it? It would not hurt some" hotheads "to ask themselves this question more often.

          And what, someone will ask someone?)
          They will present them with a fact, and then "survive" as you please (of course, if the "soul" does not ascend before the question).
          And we have already covered the "hot heads". Ukraine is a recent example. We sat in the huts and waited: "Perhaps it will blow!" Then they came specifically to the hut to those whom "Perhaps the National Battalions" will carry, men for the expense, and wives and children (girls) for slaves until needed, until they get bored, then all the same in the expense.
          Will you survive with your "sanity" the arrival of another "Natsik" to your hut, no matter under what flag?
          And now again ask yourself the question, are your family and child ready to survive this or is it better all the same with a Mace? Perhaps with the answer will carry?)
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 4 December 2015 23: 14 New
            +4
            Quote: mihasik
            And we have already passed about the "hot heads". Ukraine is a recent example. We sat in the huts and waited: "Perhaps it will blow!" Then they came specifically to the hut to those whom "Perhaps the National Battalions will carry", men for expense, and wives and children (girls) for slaves until needed, then all the same for expense.
            Will you survive with your "sanity" the arrival of another "Natsik" to your hut, no matter under what flag?
            And now again ask yourself the question, are your family and child ready to survive this or is it better all the same with a Mace? Perhaps with the answer will carry?)

            Dear, I'm not talking about "huts to sit out", but about sitting here and yelling in three throats, that it is necessary to "fuck" in Turkey, the USA, England, etc. nuclear weapons first, you need to understand well that the answer from them, too. Therefore, a nuclear arsenal in any form is a DETERRENT FACTOR, not a tool that someone would like to use.
            And then huts and national battalions?
            Sitting here and scribbling slogans, “let's fuck them!”, “Hurray, we'll break everyone!” Is very clever and easy. But not one of these speakers at this moment when he writes such foolishness does not think for a second that there is a small a son is playing, a wife, someone's mother and father are next to them - their relatives, not neighbors ... and these grief speakers decide everything for them, shouting here that they need to "fuck".
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 5 December 2015 10: 20 New
          -1
          Hope for the common sense of the leaders of the nuclear powers is wrong - stupidity always wins.
  35. Koldunja
    Koldunja 4 December 2015 21: 48 New
    +5
    Now it’s time for mattresses to build a wall, following the example of ukrov ... along the bottom in the Atlantic, Pacific and North Arctic oceans. lol A great reason to cut the US defense budget for the next 400-500 years!
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 4 December 2015 22: 29 New
      0
      Joking as a joke, but the wall is really an option, and they have a lot of money.
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  36. raid14
    raid14 4 December 2015 21: 50 New
    +2
    "Kuzkin's mother" USA can be done in several ways on TV showed only one of the options.
    "Losharik" is quite suitable as a carrier of a supercharge.
    Another option is the revival of the R-36orb project of missiles with nuclear and thermonuclear warheads, orbital or suborbital, orbital nuclear charges.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 5 December 2015 10: 23 New
      0
      Unfortunately, Yuzhmash, where R 36ORB missiles were made, remained on the territory of Ukraine and he is no longer an assistant to us.
  37. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 4 December 2015 21: 55 New
    -1
    ..Yes, it's all bullshit ..
    There they already dug bunkers in the rocks with all the amenities .. And after - .. x them torpedoes, rockets and concrete bombs.
    Only in the Yellowstone bullseye ..! 10 kilotons for kindling ..., moreover, from the Lunar direction, such as a meteorite ...
    1. ARES623
      ARES623 4 December 2015 22: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Tra-ta-ta
      There they already dug bunkers in the rocks with all the amenities .. And after - .. x them torpedoes, rockets and concrete bombs.

      Well then they will come out of the bunkers, And then bam !!! clean field. No grub, no slaves, no limos. Everything that they enjoy in life cannot be hidden in a bunker. And without this, they will strangle each other for a can of cola.
      1. Tra-ta-ta
        Tra-ta-ta 4 December 2015 22: 33 New
        -1
        200 years may also leave the bunker ...
        Do we have such skerries ..? Somewhere at the bottom of Lake Baikal ..?
        In general, recalling Alexander Belyaev ..: it’s time to granulate oxygen from the atmosphere ... Technologies have stepped forward ...! And no greenpeace will ever smell ..
  38. Zloy-zyb
    Zloy-zyb 4 December 2015 21: 57 New
    +1
    Why so hard? Make a shell on the reactor and gasp when approaching, anyway without a crew.
  39. evgmiz
    evgmiz 4 December 2015 22: 01 New
    -2
    We will argue when we test in practice, in real conditions (maybe).
  40. DIMbor
    DIMbor 4 December 2015 22: 03 New
    +2
    We’ll be forced to use these weapons, but the beginning of the end will come.
  41. cap
    cap 4 December 2015 22: 05 New
    +5
    Quote: Bashibuzuk
    The people, uhhh, aren't you tired of discussing the balcony yet?
    What are 10 thousand kilometers?
    Where will the torpedo arrive in this case? Should I launch it from the Barents?
    Currents, various densities, what other things do you not take into account?
    Which sperm whale wants to mate with such a torpedo ...
    With what speed will this bandura "surf the Bolshoi Theater"?
    Where has the "Ear" American gone?
    .
    Ours launched stashilka, but here everything is seriously discussed.
    Spruce ...
    Yes, remember "Star Wars". How were they neutralized? Just a racket loaded with gravel.
    How can you neutralize a healthy underwater bandura?
    Which should explode in certain coordinates?
    Well, the way she begins to determine these coordinates is to neutralize them.
    .
    And the upright torpedo - I hope everyone understands - is nonsense. Yes, if also with a combined-cycle engine ......

    Here you need to tell everything. And why?
    There is a leak of national importance.
    Think of the word "state." The secret of sovereigns!
    So it’s not for us to read and discuss it.
    We military people understand this. Those who sit on the president’s advice also understand this.
    We draw a conclusion. The picture was shown for "other sovereigns."
    You, dear, have you seen European defense ministers?
    What do you think the doctor the geneticist will say without a hint how is the nautical mile different from the land mile? so-so. Sure NO !.
    You can check in the nearest antenatal clinic.
    And you, my friend, currents, combined-cycle engines ....
    Gentlemen are already on the exam system that generation is studying. From your terms, indigestion may happen to them. Have pity.
    Let them read, consider and finally understand where the cholera nonsense about Russia's weaknesses is, ALL OF THEM may result.
    Since then hi
  42. anip
    anip 4 December 2015 22: 12 New
    -2
    Torpedo - torpedo, but I wonder if "Perimeter" is still in action, on guard, so to speak?
    1. Grim Reaper
      Grim Reaper 4 December 2015 22: 28 New
      -2
      It is simply a matter of religion. There is no evidence, but there is no iron refutation.
  43. technical
    technical 4 December 2015 22: 14 New
    +4
    Has anyone looked at a map of sea and air currents? There is also a man-made weapon that is worse than any other. Recall Chernobyl, what happened ?! So, if the necessary amount of nuclear waste is transported to Chukotka, the United States nearby, to the land of Frans Joseph, well, and a couple of places, away from us and closer to them and mine and hold your finger on the button. Get a weapon - SUCH! / Judgment Day. We don’t need to pump or sell oil, let them pay us for disposal until the end of their days. At one time, the Serbs were stupid. They had to transport the most toxic waste to the mountains, where the sources of many European rivers begin, the Danube and others flow, and threaten to poison the rivers from which all of Europe drinks. And then you would see how they began to bomb Serbia ?! And if you started, half of Europe would swim to the top with a belly. An example - please, this is North Korea. It has one small, ancient reactor, and for decades it has been blackmailing the whole world. And everyone is afraid to touch her with a finger. We need to learn from them, at least in this matter.
  44. Massik
    Massik 4 December 2015 22: 23 New
    +4
    They themselves are driving us into a corner, and then they are surprised that we are fully prepared to give us their faces (not with a fist, but with a sledgehammer).
  45. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 4 December 2015 22: 26 New
    -7
    Rare delirium. But spitting on the sofa gives ...
  46. Hyppopotut
    Hyppopotut 4 December 2015 22: 32 New
    +4
    The leak is 100% intentional. At a meeting where people who know what it is SECRECY, suddenly top secret material is revealed and the operator calmly removes it for several seconds. And right there on the Central Television there is a report with exactly these frames! And who ever thought that all the footage from such meetings are viewed by the appropriate "comrades", and only after their visa is broadcast?
  47. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 4 December 2015 22: 34 New
    +2
    Is there this? Is not THIS? --- Unknown.
    This weapon is comparable to planetary catastrophes obedient to Russia.
    Perhaps it is precisely the consequences of the use of such weapons in the distant past that myths of different peoples tell.
  48. Nymp
    Nymp 4 December 2015 22: 36 New
    +2
    Even if "status-6" did not exist, it should have been invented. It may well be that the injection of information has one more purpose; mislead Americans in their search for retaliatory technologies. In this case, "Status-6" may not be a torpedo at all. The author missed this option.
    1. Grim Reaper
      Grim Reaper 5 December 2015 00: 19 New
      -3
      Do not consider the United States to be stupid ... they know perfectly well "where we have what", however, as we do. And this "leak" is nothing more than PR. As I already wrote: spit on the sofa ...
      1. Nymp
        Nymp 5 December 2015 07: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Ecilop
        Do not consider the US stupid ... they know perfectly well "where we have what",

        You did not understand me, maybe I am not clearly explaining myself, but I believe that "Status" exists. I just admit it was a throw-in, and the "status" itself is not necessarily the same as it was portrayed in the throw-in of disinformation. The Soviet specialists were not stupid either! I would say smarter than the American ones, but the amersky stuffing was eaten, or rather, it was not the specialists who ate it, but the government! But what's the difference, the main thing worked. Therefore, I say, even if it did not exist, then it should be invented. And there are enough fools everywhere, both with us and with them.
  49. Alfizik
    Alfizik 4 December 2015 22: 39 New
    +3
    Water, water, water ... The author is talkative, enthusiastically fantasizing, but everyone already knows that even without the hypothetical superweapon "Status - 6" the return will be concrete. Our ax of war is not buried, it is on the porch.
    And why hide the "ax" in the water? It will rust, drown, God forbid ... Why carry such a club "behind the belt" if there are more reliable, almost imperceptible, effective measures. Some will fit into a lady's cosmetic bag, but they can destroy an entire country overnight. It is foolish to fight the Snowman with a blowtorch.
    Who will take responsibility for the deaths of billions of children, pregnant women? Only an idiot or ... Satan. But any, every soul of Russia is from God.
  50. SCHNIFER
    SCHNIFER 4 December 2015 23: 03 New
    +5
    It was believed that the fusion of thermonuclear munitions with a capacity of more than 100 megatons could, under certain conditions, result in a self-sustaining fusion reaction in the atmosphere, or initiate a fusion reaction in seawater containing a certain amount of deuterium, that is, an ocean explosion stop
    1. viktor561
      viktor561 4 December 2015 23: 40 New
      -2
      This is utopia! and the strongest detonator - Tritium, not deuterium - you are not a physicist and do not post nonsense
      1. Barsik
        Barsik 5 December 2015 02: 48 New
        +2
        and the strongest detonator - Tritium, not deuterium

        Since when, oh the greatest physicist, did the reactant become a detonator?