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Turkish "Coral" against Russian "Triumph": EW systems near the borders of Syria

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At the end of November, a number of curious events took place in Syria and in neighboring territories, of particular interest to both the military and the general public. On November 26, the Russian Ministry of Defense announced the deployment of the C-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile system at Hmeimim Air Base, which will have to protect the Russian group and Syrian territory from attacks from third countries. A few days after that, new messages appeared in the Turkish media, according to which the Turkish armed forces could without any problems interfere with the work of the Russian anti-aircraft gunners.


November 30 Istanbul edition Milliyet reported on the actions of the Turkish military, which should be a response to the deployment of C-400 in Syria. According to this newspaper, the Turkish armed forces transferred to the Syrian border the latest Koral radio electronic warfare systems (“Coral”). It is argued that this system is capable of suppressing various radio-electronic systems within a radius of 100 km and should interfere with the operation of Russian anti-aircraft systems. Soon such news were replicated by other media.

The news of the deployment of the EW system quickly became a topic of mass controversy. Military specialists and amateurs began making assessments and making forecasts, trying to present the results of the confrontation between the Turkish Koral complex and the Russian C-400. It is not difficult to notice that the real results of such a “fight” can be determined only in the course of a full-fledged combat use, which is still unlikely, and the vast majority of assessments are based not only on available information, but also on the personal opinion and political views of the evaluator.


Koral complex in expanded form


Despite these peculiar factors, the topic of deployment of Turkish EW complexes is of great interest. The appearance of such systems in areas close to the theater of military operations can have some influence on the course of the battles and the situation on the fronts. In addition, the Coral complex itself is worthy of a separate study. According to reports, this system was first introduced only a few months ago, and now, according to the Turkish press, has already been deployed in positions near combat areas.

First of all, it should be noted that the deployment of EW Koral complexes near the Syrian border has not yet received sufficient evidence. All reports on this subject, ultimately, converge on the publication of Milliyet, which, in turn, did not refer to full-fledged official sources. Thus, until история With the deployment of "Coral" can be a banal newspaper duck, which appeared on the background of the deteriorating political situation.

Nevertheless, despite the possibility of a so-called. informational stuffing, the topic does not lose its relevance and should be considered and studied in detail. Recall the previously published data on the Koral system and try to draw some conclusions.

The Koral electronic warfare complex was developed and produced by the Turkish company Aselsan. The “premiere demonstration” of this system took place in May of this year during the IDEF-2015 exhibition. As part of this event, a new complex was shown, as well as some of its features were announced. According to available data, the task of the Coral system is to counter enemy's electronic systems by generating high power interference. Due to this, it is proposed to interfere with the work of communications and radar systems.

The Aselsan Koral system is based on two four-axle MAN KAT four-wheel drive chassis, on the cargo platforms of which all the necessary equipment is located. A characteristic feature of the complex, which the developers are paying attention to, is a modular equipment architecture that is capable of providing ease of operation, repair and upgrading. At the same time, both machines have a different composition of equipment, formed according to different tasks.


Radar Electronic Support Machine


The German base chassis allows the complex to move on roads and rough terrain, which is expected to allow the timely deployment of the complex in any specified area. For stabilization during operation, chassis are equipped with outriggers, on which both cars are hung out before starting work.

The first element of the Coral complex is the so-called. Radar Electronic Support is a machine that performs the functions of electronic reconnaissance. The task of this machine, as follows from the available data, is to monitor the situation in the air, receiving, processing and recognition of signals. When building a Radar Electronic Support machine, the base chassis receives a large van with the equipment and operator workplaces mounted behind the cab. In addition, two telescopic masts with antenna-feeder devices are mounted at the rear of the chassis.

Apparently, the Radar Electronic Support equipment allows you to monitor the situation, receive and analyze various signals. Based on the results of the analysis of received signals, a decision is made on the use of interference sources mounted on the second machine. The operation of the Koral complex, according to available data, is managed by a crew of three persons - a commander and two operators. Their jobs are located in a vans intelligence vehicle.

The second element of the complex, performing the functions of a noise emitter, is the Radar Electronic Attack machine. During the construction of this machine on the base chassis, a casing is installed with special equipment (probably, power supply systems), as well as an antenna device of the original design. Directly on the cargo platform is mounted a lifting mechanism, on which is located the rotary platform for the antenna device. As part of the latter there are two lifting supports with antennas. Also directly on the swivel base is a block of additional equipment. Such a device design of the Radar Electronic Attack machine allows you to direct antennas in the desired direction in azimuth and, apparently, in elevation.

It is argued that the Aselsan Koral EW complex is capable of recording incoming signals, determining the type of their source and its location, and then performing jamming, interfering with the work of the enemy’s electronic systems. Earlier it was reported that the range of the complex exceeds 100 km, it can work in a wide range of frequencies. Systems may be operated at air temperatures from -30 ° C to + 50 ° C.

Turkish "Coral" against Russian "Triumph": EW systems near the borders of Syria
Radar Electronic Support from a different angle


In the time since the first demonstration of the Koral complex, Aselsan has built a certain amount of such equipment. According to reports, to date, at least one such complex has been deployed near the city of Izmir in western Turkey. As follows from recent reports, another such complex was delivered to the border area in the east of the country and put on alert.

The available information about the Coral system attracts attention, but does not allow for a complete picture. Most of the information of particular interest has not yet been published. It can be assumed that this complex really has high characteristics, since its development was completed only a few months ago and the most modern components are used in its composition. However, without accurate information about the characteristics of the complex, it is too early to draw any conclusions.

According to the Turkish press, the Coral complex is deployed on the border with Syria to counteract the C-400 Triumph Russian anti-aircraft missile systems. Nevertheless, even in the conditions of the existing shortage of information, there is reason to doubt the very possibility of such a use of the promising Turkish system.

December 2 edition "Vesti.Ru" published an interview with the adviser to the first deputy general director of the Concern "Radioelectronic Technologies" (KRET) Vladimir Mikheev. KRET is engaged in the development of domestic radio-electronic means, including advanced EW systems, which is why the opinion of its specialists is of great interest.

V. Mikheev notes that the suppression of the C-400 radar by means of the Koral system can hardly be possible. The main problem that hinders such use concerns the basing of technology. Ground-based EW systems, to which the Coral belongs, cannot effectively deal with anti-aircraft complexes and missiles. To counteract the anti-aircraft complexes, designed to work in conditions of enemy use of interference, air-based electronic warfare systems are necessary.


Radar Electronic Attack Machine


As an example of EW tools intended for installation on airplanes, V. Mikheev cited the Russian systems Lever and Khibiny, created by Concern Radio Electronic Technologies. In addition, he recalled that Turkey does not have systems of this level. Such equipment is available from the US armed forces, but it is not supplied to foreign countries.

Indeed, due to a number of objective factors, ground-based electronic warfare systems do not have the ability to fully counteract ground radar stations and other systems. To solve such problems, specialized airplanes or helicopters are required, or combat aircraft with outboard containers of a corresponding purpose.

The impossibility of effective use of the Coral against the Russian C-400 allows not to worry because of possible problems for the anti-aircraft gunners. However, this is not a reason to take no action. In this situation, the most reasonable and logical step will be the use of electronic intelligence. The Aselsan Koral complex was introduced only six months ago and seems to be used for the first time in real conditions. Thus, the Russian RTR has an excellent opportunity to collect the necessary data on the latest foreign EW system. It is hardly worth missing such a chance. It is known that there are already EW Krasukha-4 complexes on Khmeimim airbase. It seems that the calculations of this complex in the near future will have to carry out tasks for the study of foreign technology.

If the reports of the Turkish press correspond to reality, and the Koral complex really cannot effectively counteract Russian anti-aircraft weapons, then a logical question arises: why do we need the transfer of EW systems to the border with Syria? You can offer several answers to this question.

The most obvious answer is an attempt to demonstrate strength against the background of the last deterioration of relations. After the attack on the Russian bomber and the subsequent reaction of official Moscow, the Turkish leadership, seeing the risks of an open clash, is forced to reassure its public by various methods. In the course are both the relevant statements and the transfer of military equipment to the border with Syria. Sending electronic warfare complexes, as well as communications about it, is a good addition to such attempts to show its strength.


Another view of the Radar Electronic Attack


Another answer was suggested by Sergey Denisencev, an employee of the Center for the Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, quoted by Vzglyad. He believes that press reports may be an attempt to advertise a new EW complex. Thus, if the situation does not reach a real conflict, then in a few years the Turkish industry will be able to offer its development, accompanying it with appropriate commentary. It will be argued that the Turkish armed forces did not lose a single aircraft, not for military and political reasons, but because of the Coral complex. With such advertising complex can be sold to some third countries.

Despite the lack of basic information of greatest interest, the current situation with the C-400 and Aselsan Koral complexes is worthy of consideration. In addition, even now you can not only consider it, but also draw some conclusions. Careful examination and analysis of the situation show that it is unlikely to pose any noticeable danger to the Russian group in Syria. Moreover, the deployment of Turkish EW facilities on the Syrian border may be of interest to radio intelligence and defense industry specialists studying the foreign achievements of this field.

Thus, if the confrontation does not go into a stage of real conflict, all parties will come out of the situation with some advantage. Official Ankara will be able to show strength, reassure the population, and in the future - advertise their new development. Russia, in turn, has an excellent opportunity to study the latest achievements of the Turkish industry and get a lot of important information that will be used in new projects of domestic equipment and weapons.

In the current situation, the transfer of the Coral complexes to the border with Syria turns out to be one of the most profitable moves for Turkey. Nevertheless, the situation continues to evolve, and relations between the two countries deteriorate every day. Whether Turkish EW systems can somehow influence the situation will be shown soon. However, we can already assume that a pair of cars with special equipment can hardly improve relations between Russia and Turkey, spoiled by aggression from the latter.


On the materials of the sites:
http://milliyet.com.tr/
http://tass.ru/
http://ria.ru/
http://vesti.ru/
http://vz.ru/
http://kret.com/
http://armyrecognition.com/
http://defence.pk/
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  1. qwert
    qwert 3 December 2015 07: 22 New
    -12
    "Thus, if the confrontation does not turn into a real conflict, all parties will get out of the situation with some benefit." How can we go into the stage of real conflict with a member country .... NATO?
    1. Tanker55
      Tanker55 3 December 2015 08: 40 New
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      How can we go into a stage of real conflict with a member country .... NATO?

      There was a desire to read the article, but now you need to have a desire to think with your head. And I ask: DO YOU NEED IT? Considering that tension already exists.
      1. qwert
        qwert 3 December 2015 11: 15 New
        +2
        I’m talking about this and that it’s not real, moreover, it is possible and deadly for today's Russia.
        Either they didn’t understand my comment, didn’t "have the desire to think with their heads" (I am quoting a tanker), or everyone is sure that we will break NATO one time.
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 3 December 2015 14: 42 New
          +2
          A clash between Russia and NATO, in which NATO will pursue decisive goals, is impossible. Due to the inevitability of a nuclear strike on our part, in the event of a catastrophic development of the situation. But one or more local clashes can be considered by both sides as very useful.
          The task for NATO in this situation may be to exhaust Russia, which will be forced to spend forces and funds on military actions. And also the creation of dissatisfaction with the government among the people and the elite during successive military defeats. This can lead to apathy on the part of the people and capitulation on the part of the elite and, accordingly, to the overthrow of the power of the GDP and the destruction of Russia as a state. It was not possible to surround Russia with a belt of instability and to attack by terrorists. Moscow succeeded not only in stabilizing the situation on its territory (Chechnya) and creating a "cordon sanitaire" in Central Asia (Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan). But also launch a counter-attack against Islamic terrorism in Syria. Therefore, the task of exhausting Russia now rests with NATO Europeans and limited contingents of American troops. With the possibility of increasing American participation as the conflict develops and Russia's amount of modern weapons decreases.
          From the Kremlin’s side, a military operation is seen as a preventive one. Not for nothing, and the GDP said that if fights can not be avoided, then you must beat first. A series of lightning-fast campaigns can make it possible to disrupt the plans of NATO and seize the economically developed territories of Europe for the Russian oligarchy and ensure the extensive development of the capitalist economy of Russia and a market for Russian energy resources and Chinese goods. This option is also attractive due to the lack of the need for mobilization in Russia and the moderate destruction of the occupied territories.
          What's the problem? Why are the guns silent? From the West there is a concentration of forces. Europe in the 90s and 2000s weakened militarily. And even the "super-species" Eastern Europeans (Poles, Romanians, Sprotlanders) do not show a special desire to drag chestnuts out of the fire for the Americans. On the other hand, Russia is rearming itself by leaps and bounds, new operational formations are being created. In such a situation, it is not the right time to start a war. Plus, our elite does not understand the goals of the war. After all, Europe can be "taken" also economically. Why fight if you can exploit the Eastern European limitrophes together. And for China it is more profitable, the market is much larger.
          Apparently, for these reasons the behind-the-scenes puppeteers fail to ignite the fuse of the conflict. But they do not give up their attempts. Which have already led to the death of two hundred passengers of the Russian airliner, one and a half hundred Frenchmen and two Russian military personnel. This is not counting (for them and for our elites) Libyans, Syrians, Iraqis, Ukrainians and Russian Ukrainians and other "bargaining chips". In principle, Turkey is an ideal springboard for both sides to test military forces. Turkey has a strong ground army and a solid air force, reinforcing them with the NATO aviation component "partners" can neutralize Russia's advantage in the air. At the same time, the Armenian and Syrian enclaves that Russia defends are cut off from its territory, which endangers the logistics of our groups. On the other hand, Turkey is not too important for NATO, for the sake of it they will not throw their sticks and therefore there is an opportunity to receive military dividends. Plus, we also have a ground contingent (Armenians, Syrians, Hezbollah), which will reduce losses among the Russian armed forces by striking a "first echelon" strike. So a military escalation in the Middle East is by no means impossible.
        2. Vita vko
          Vita vko 3 December 2015 16: 03 New
          +6
          Turkish Coral, in principle, is not able to counteract the S-400, it was not for this that it was created. But it is quite capable of countering the radar of fighter guidance systems, ground-to-air communication systems and navigation. But the vulnerability of this electronic warfare system is also very high, the launch of X-58-type RLRs does not, in principle, detect the electronic warfare system, it does not have its own active radar facilities. Therefore, the effectiveness of destruction will be much higher than when using PRLR against CHP SAM or radar.
          The next important point is the technical implementation. As a rule, the Turkish military-industrial complex does little to develop itself, and the EW complex with its sophisticated microwave technologies of powerful transmitting devices was precisely designed and produced not in Turkey.
          For example, in 2009, Kazakhstan acquired 4 Cicada electronic warfare complexes from the Spanish division of EADS. It would seem that EADS is a serious corporation capable of independently developing practically any electronic systems. However, in practice, during the tests, the key transmitter unit failed and had to be ordered in the United States from Lockheed Martin, and not from EADS. I am 100% sure that the Turkish Coral's main units for generating powerful jamming signals are not of their own production, most likely American.
          In addition, in Kazakhstan, during acceptance tests, Cicada suppressed aviation guidance systems. Then there was no SU-30SM, they were bought only this year, but the Su-27 radar was suppressed the first time. They tried to suppress the MiG-31 Zaslon-M radar, but failed. True, there was a "smart guy" who guessed to put asynchronous interference in a wide range, which somewhat complicated the navigator's work, but it was still not critical and would hardly have led to a failure of guidance. It is obvious that the developments of the later Bars-type radars are more resistant to interference.
        3. Idiot
          Idiot 11 January 2016 21: 18 New
          0
          The Wehrmacht, at one time, tore all the NATs, and we ended the war in Berlin. No wonder three hundred German generals, led by Halder, wrote them analytical notes. NATO will not fight with Russia under any circumstances. The Turks will continue to puff out their cheeks, but there will be no more provocations.
    2. Malkor
      Malkor 3 December 2015 20: 03 New
      +4
      They will order - they will put him in the army - we will fight.
      Every man’s duty is to protect his home in a nuclear war too.
      It doesn’t matter whether or not NATO.
      1. surok-61
        surok-61 23 February 2016 22: 17 New
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        And we do not need to order! Whistle current ...
  2. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 3 December 2015 07: 23 New
    +1
    Janissaries sharpen sabers.
    1. Rroman
      Rroman 3 December 2015 09: 30 New
      11
      At first I read for some reason: "Janissaries are sharpening a rake."
  3. sa-ag
    sa-ag 3 December 2015 07: 28 New
    +2
    "... Indeed, due to a number of objective factors, ground-based electronic warfare systems do not have the ability to fully counteract ground-based radar stations and other systems. Solving such tasks requires specialized aircraft or helicopters, or combat aircraft with suspended containers for the appropriate purpose."

    Americans were about to relocate to Incirlik Growlers
  4. andrei.yandex
    andrei.yandex 3 December 2015 07: 35 New
    +1
    This is already becoming more interesting.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 December 2015 08: 29 New
    +2
    But let's see if the Janissaries dare to raise their aircraft and parade over Syria. Or they will make faces because of the fence. As in childhood. The mischievous neighbor ran away behind his gate, and is wandering around, but in a strange yard he cannot be "slapped", daddy will intervene.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 3 December 2015 10: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And here's a look


      And also in KRET they noted (left behind the scenes in the article) -
      “Since Russian electronic warfare systems operate both in electronic reconnaissance and suppression mode, and in counter-electronic warfare(this is the key, those who know understand what it is about!) "...
      http://vz.ru/news/2015/12/2/781525.html

      That is, if the Ottomans "turn on" their Karall against our air force operating in Syria, which is tantamount to a declaration of war, then in response, ours will begin with special means active opposition Turkish electronic warfare. And let's see who is the first to "smoke" bully laughing
  6. Kradi
    Kradi 3 December 2015 08: 43 New
    0
    Interestingly, this Coral will notice the approaching Caliber?
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 3 December 2015 10: 51 New
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      Quote: KraDI
      Interestingly, this Coral will notice the approaching Caliber?

      If it flies to the KR autonomously, in "radio silence without data exchange" - no!
    2. opus
      opus 3 December 2015 18: 51 New
      -2
      Quote: KraDI
      Interestingly, this Coral will notice the approaching Caliber?

      What does "notice" mean?
      Both the "Caliber" (ZM-14) and the Tomahawk have a "float" flight, the basis of which is a radio altimeter (now the T has a Disk).
      Coral can interfere with the operation of the radio altimeter, respectively, the control points (zones), if they are covered by profukans, you will get the KVO from km.
      ZM-15 also has AGSN -14E radar scanning of the terrain at the target for accurate correction upon impact.
      If there is KREP-Coral, then of course it will score 0,5kW AGSN -14.
      Correspondingly, reaching the target only according to the INS-KVO horror

      And ZM-14 himself will not notice or see Coral, he simply has no "eye"
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 3 December 2015 19: 19 New
        +2
        Quote: opus
        Both the "Caliber" (ZM-14) and the Tomahawk have a "float" flight, the basis of which is a radio altimeter (now the T has a Disk).


        The 3M-14 rocket is equipped with a combined guidance system. In-flight rocket control is completely autonomous. The on-board control system is based on autonomous inertial navigation system AB-40E (developer - State Research Institute of Instrumentation). The missile control system includes a radio altimeter of the RVE-B type (developed by UPKB "Detail") and a satellite navigation system signal receiver (GLONASS or GPS). The radio altimeter provides flight in the mode of envelope relief by accurately maintaining the flight altitude: above the sea - no more than 20 m, above land - from 50 to 150 m (when approaching the goal - decrease to 20 m).

        The flight of missiles takes place according to a pre-established route, in accordance with intelligence data regarding the position of the target and the availability of air defense equipment. Missiles are capable of overcoming the zones of a developed enemy air defense system, which is ensured by extremely low flight altitudes (with enveloping the terrain) and autonomy of guidance in the "silence" mode on the main site. Correction of the flight path of the rocket on the marching section is carried out according to satellite navigation subsystem and terrain correction subsystems. The principle of operation of the latter is based on a comparison of the terrain of a particular missile location area with reference terrain maps along its flight path, previously stored in the memory of the onboard control system. Navigation is carried out along a complex trajectory, a missile has the ability to bypass strong enemy air defense / missile defense zones or difficult terrain — by entering the coordinates of the so-called route turning points (up to 15 reference points) in the flight task (see the trajectory diagram).

        The target trajectory is guided by the anti-jamming active radar homing head ARGS-14E, which effectively highlights subtle, small-sized targets against the background of the underlying surface. The ARGS-14 head with a diameter of - 514mm and 40kg weight is developed in OAO NPP Radar MMS (St. Petersburg), has a viewing angle in azimuth (bearing) ± 45 °, in elevation - from + 10 ° to -20 ° . Typical target detection range around 20km. Exceptional maneuverability allows you to accurately bring a rocket to the target.


        Now imagine the situation -
        "Caliber" flies along the AINS practically along the entire route (at a barometric altitude of 500-1500 meters, in fact, they flew through Iran-Iraq), occasionally adjusting the GLONAS route and hitting the target, also comparing the AINS / GLONAS data (in case of a strong discrepancy - according to the AINS, because in the PZ it is possible to lay down the expected activity of electronic warfare).
        By the way, the head of the ARGS-14 40kg is not to be set at max. Range when firing at a ground target.
  7. mAgs
    mAgs 3 December 2015 08: 46 New
    +1
    The third option: Coral covers something in the area of ​​its base.
    1. Magic archer
      Magic archer 3 December 2015 09: 51 New
      +2
      Most likely, Coral’s task is to suppress precisely our aircraft. EW ground systems are created for this very purpose. hi
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 3 December 2015 10: 53 New
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        Quote: Magic Archer
        Most likely the task of Coral is to suppress precisely our aircraft.

        already wrote -
        if the Ottomans "turn on" their Karall against our air force operating in Syria, which is tantamount to a declaration of war, then, in response, ours will begin to actively counter the Turkish electronic warfare with special means. And let's see who is the first to "smoke"
    2. NeRTT
      NeRTT 3 December 2015 09: 53 New
      0
      Fuel tanker and oil tankers - stopudovo !! Yes, and DAISH - "Sheep" are also in training camps or collection points !! belay
  8. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 3 December 2015 08: 49 New
    0
    All this raises doubts, and more gives the impression of "swelling of the cheeks" like wow, what kind of cool Turks would they not burst and pile into their pants from strain, there is enough stench without them! What was scary to fly, so they decided to scare our pilots, well, well , but you still have to answer for the downed bomber, so the Ottomans are "nervous"! Although Erdogan and his associates have nothing to do with the Turks, stray ...
  9. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 3 December 2015 08: 56 New
    0
    Give them two files so that the shells are sharpened at home ... well, you understand ....
  10. 31rus
    31rus 3 December 2015 09: 24 New
    +2
    Dear, the Turks conduct radio-technical reconnaissance, even if they cannot "interfere" with the S-400, and the aviation, and the ground grouping? In general, this is not entirely correct, there will be "Coral" and "Krasukha", there will be no visible confrontation, sooner or later the Turks will find loopholes, by themselves or with the help of the USA, the "games" are over, all according to the most modern
  11. NeRTT
    NeRTT 3 December 2015 09: 51 New
    0
    Quote: KraDI
    Interestingly, this Coral will notice the approaching Caliber?

    Why do we have radio-technical reconnaissance (RTR)? So, according to intelligence data, you can make adjustments right in the flight of the Caliber !! good
  12. NEXUS
    NEXUS 3 December 2015 10: 13 New
    +1
    The EW Coral complex, the maximum that can create for the S-400 is to slightly reduce the target detection radius and no more. And given that in Sevastopol there is our EW Murmansk-BN station, whose range is 5000 km, and which is able to deal with enemy electronic warfare systems (suppress them), then all these attempts of the Turks are nothing more than fuss in the sandbox.
  13. Zigmars
    Zigmars 3 December 2015 10: 31 New
    0
    Quote: qwert
    How can we go into a stage of real conflict with a member country .... NATO?


    Should your words be understood in such a way that any country, having become a member of NATO, can behave with absolutely impunity towards Russia? And whatever they do, we just have to "wipe"? ..
    Maybe you’re used to constantly cheeking, but, fortunately, most sane people think differently.
  14. gray
    gray 3 December 2015 10: 42 New
    0
    http://topwar.ru/
    Quote: Tankman55
    How can we go into a stage of real conflict with a member country .... NATO?

    There was a desire to read the article, but now you need to have a desire to think with your head. And I ask: DO YOU NEED IT? Considering that tension already exists.

    What is needed is a "conflict", no, it is not necessary. By the way, we did not provoke the tension "you forget or do not see it on purpose".
  15. Aleksandr2012
    Aleksandr2012 3 December 2015 12: 56 New
    0
    How can you counteract the electronic warfare system of another electronic warfare? It’s the same as jamming someone else’s interference with one’s own.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 3 December 2015 13: 29 New
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      Quote: Aleksandr2012
      How can you counteract the electronic warfare system of another electronic warfare? It’s the same as jamming someone else’s interference with one’s own.

      ... do not tell my sneaker! laughing bully
      I recommend learning the basics of electronic warfare - http://vrtp.ru/index.php?act=categories&CODE=article&article=3198
      Impact on all reo

      And the second - the use of electronic warfare against the object of "partners" / potential adversaries on their territory = a declaration of war. "Krasuhi" - working only on the ATS.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 December 2015 14: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: Aleksandr2012
      How can you counteract the electronic warfare system of another electronic warfare? It’s the same as jamming someone else’s interference with one’s own.

      Electronic warfare systems act on the electronics of the adversary. And the electronic warfare system is not a chip or board?
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 December 2015 14: 31 New
    0
    On the border of Turkey and Syria is a mountainous area. The range will be short. If you move to the Turkoman to suppress there are missiles against emitting objects. These stations are not connected with the suppression of air defense, but they can interfere with us and the Syrians in radio communications and determining our coordinates.
  17. Aleksandr2012
    Aleksandr2012 3 December 2015 14: 46 New
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    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Aleksandr2012
    How can you counteract the electronic warfare system of another electronic warfare? It’s the same as jamming someone else’s interference with one’s own.

    Electronic warfare systems act on the electronics of the adversary. And the electronic warfare system is not a chip or board?

    I did not mean the destruction of electronics at close range. I know the basics of electronic warfare based on my professional activities. My question was how do you think you can counteract electronic warfare from distances of kilometers. And with 5000 km of enemy electronic warfare, you definitely won’t do anything.
  18. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 December 2015 14: 46 New
    0
    It flashed in the press that two Russian aircraft
    (or a helicopter, I don't remember) "lost contact with the base" at the Turkish border.

    The Turks, apparently, have already turned on their "Coral". recourse
  19. opus
    opus 3 December 2015 17: 53 New
    +2
    Quote: Author
    According to the Turkish press, the Coral complex was deployed on the border with Syria to counter the Russian Triumph S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems.


    Turks wrote ONLY that Coral probably will be able to affect the operation of the GOS (AGSN, PGSN) R BB R-27 and R-77.

    Moreover, the Turks are still donkeys, they just wrote R-27.


    but the R-27ET Coral-Pokh, and for the R-27 P and R-27PE REP Coral is just a gift.

    Then, on the basis of the idiotic statements of Russian "EXPERTS" (someone Kostya Sivkov blew into the rods for TASS Novosti, probably a fart tore about the S-400) they wrote:

    And away we go (kaklov generally sprinkled with saliva)

    1. KREP Coral, is a complex of the Turkish Navy, to protect the coast from the Kyrgyz Republic (active and passive GOS), LA (and UAV) radar
    Yes. It will create an obstacle on the radar or on the GSN KR (just missiles) in the coastal zone on the surface of the sea at a distance of 100 km. but what does the S-400 have to do with it?

    2. S-400 (and S-400 SAM) REP Coral -poh. We look


    Simply apply the basic radar equation and class 5 geometry (angle of incidence = angle of reflection). EMP, EMV, radio emission is not a jet of water and not a bullet.

    Quote: voyaka uh
    It flashed in the press that two Russian planes (or helicopters, I don't remember) near the Turkish border "lost contact with the base."

    This flashed stupidity. HOW to do this?

    I'm not sure that he will be able to interfere with the communication of the m / y 2 la (unless of course they are not from different sides of the Coral).
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    And you’ll get the same about the straits.
    Turks already know about tearing farts (closing straits)
    Ours are already about $ 440 million, and lumps and picked up.


    Sha kakly will catch up and will savor the losses of Russia for a week (there are already calculations and the horses claim that the straits are closed: Zrada and pEremogha)
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    Everything goes where necessary






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  20. Wolka
    Wolka 4 December 2015 08: 36 New
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    the author missed one more component, financial, military toys such as electronic warfare means are clearly not cheap, both for the Turks and for Russia, to deploy this one thing, but to contain something completely different, it's like buying an expensive car and then working on one wheel of a standing one all your life in the garage of the car, or you can take a modest but workhorse and solve your daily goals and tasks, and replace it with a new one according to the "recycling program" when the resource is developed ...
  21. bmv04636
    bmv04636 4 December 2015 22: 30 New
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    I think it's time to transfer the Iskander division to Syria, so to speak, to combat daish
  22. chikenous59
    chikenous59 5 December 2015 10: 32 New
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    Quote: bmv04636
    I think it's time to transfer the Iskander division to Syria, so to speak, to combat daish

    That's why such komenty write? Are you making a proposal to the General Staff, or are you just clever? Or fantasize?
  23. master.30.ru
    master.30.ru 5 December 2015 14: 26 New
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    And why then Turkish planes do not fly over Syria?
  24. Freeman
    Freeman 5 December 2015 20: 04 New
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    It seems to me that as an electronic warfare in a countermeasure mode, the Coral will not work yet. Their task is to collect and record information about the modes of operation of our air defense systems, the parameters of their control and interaction with each other (land + sea) and aviation.

    At the same time, a unique situation has now developed in the sky over Syria, in addition to the Russian Air Force, there are French, Israelis, British are preparing, Germans are asking.
    And we must not forget that although, for Russia, all these countries are currently considered "partners", but they are still the "probable enemy". Such is WW3 in miniature.

    The collected material will be invaluable for NATO. If earlier, in order to receive such information about the capabilities of our air defense, it was necessary to "drive" reconnaissance aircraft along the border, or even with an entry into the airspace (and it is not a fact that they were not operated in a "special" mode, and even then for a short time ), they can now "write" real combat parameters 24/7.

    It is clear that the information collected will not be analyzed by the Turks.