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A raven doesn’t pick a crow out of the eye ... The Pentagon has joined Erdoогan’s shield

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Not even several hours had passed since the briefing of the representatives of the Russian Ministry of Defense, which presented photo evidence of the transfer of huge amounts of oil from the territories controlled by ISAH (ISIL), to Turkey, as the voice of the Pentagon. US military official Elissa Smith announced that the United States do not have data on the links of Turkey with the smuggling of oil DAISH.


RIA News cites a statement from a Pentagon representative:
We reject assumption that the Turkish government is in collusion with the IG to smuggle oil. We have not seen any evidence to support such allegations. Moreover, Turkey is taking steps to enhance the security of its border with Syria, along with international partners. Our goal here is to block the smuggling of (oil) IG.


Smith:
We consider our NATO ally Turkey as a key partner in the coalition to combat IS. As is the case with all our other partners, and as the President (US) noted in Paris yesterday, we continue to discuss with Turkey what else they can do within the coalition, and how we can better cooperate to ensure victory over the IG.


What else can they do? .. Well, for example, to heal a couple of thousands of militants in their clinics, bomb the formation of the Kurdish militia, send under the guise of humanitarian aid a hundred or two tons of ammunition to terrorists DAISH and "al-Nusra" - and all this with consents of the “key partner” from the USA. They are already doing it, Ms. Smith, and Washington is well aware of it, and therefore the coalition is beating not at the DAISH oil fields, the Aleppo water pipeline ...

A raven doesn’t pick a crow out of the eye ... The Pentagon has joined Erdoогan’s shield


It was difficult to expect any other statements from the Pentagon, because, as the well-known wisdom says, the crow does not peck out the crow. A lot of crows flew into Syria ...

Meanwhile, Turkish President Erdogan declares that all the charges against him are “false”, and further hypocrisy, crossing all borders:
Turkey has not yet lost its conscience to receive oil from a terrorist organization.


Perhaps Turkey has not lost yet ... but Erdogan himself ...
Photos used:
http://syria.mil.ru
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  1. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 2 December 2015 18: 42 New
    39
    All of them are God's dew ... So then, in those hundreds of tanks that cross the borders of Turkey? The state border ... Through state customs ... Or ISIS rules the Turkish state? What was required to prove ... Bravo, the Pentagon! Then both the Air Force and the Turkish army - this is the Air Force and the ISIS army ... Everything fell into place ... But it was not at all clear how our Turkish "friends" allowed themselves to shoot down the Russian SU-24 ... The plane was shot down not by accomplices terrorists, and the terrorists themselves ... will the USA fight with them? Waiting for an answer, Pentagon.
    1. Vend
      Vend 2 December 2015 18: 46 New
      21
      That's just the topic.
      "We did not succumb to emotions and will not do this further. We act as it should in international diplomacy. Even if there are disagreements, our cooperation has continued successfully, especially recently. We do not want these relations to be harmed. We are sad to see the reaction of the Russian Federation regarding our position (according to Su-24), the correctness of which was recognized by the whole world, "Erdogan said.
      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20151202/1334449701.html#ixzz3tB8XtAip
      I don’t know about you, but it reminds me of Poproshenko’s tantrum. He is also a dreamer, the whole world is for him, and for what we are, Russia's answers are not proportionate. It seems that the epidemic of clowns around the world. laughing
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 2 December 2015 19: 04 New
        10
        Quote: Wend
        I don’t know about you, but it reminds me of Poproshenko’s tantrum. He is also a dreamer, the whole world is for him, and for what we are, Russia's answers are not proportionate. The impression what an epidemic of clowns around the world.

        Ukraine, apparently, began to export instructors. From around the world, news comes one dumber than the other.
        1. Dembel77
          Dembel77 2 December 2015 19: 09 New
          14
          Erdogan is a lying, vile and greedy pig that will end badly. Besides licking a black ass nitsa. For the killing of our military you burn in the fire.
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 2 December 2015 19: 19 New
            32
            Raven raven eye on peck

            The title of the article is very correct. The mattresses themselves are smeared like in this arms and oil business, which is why a pedergan with such a greyhound is a gang of watering can. Maybe this will be a dream come true, there will immediately be world peace.
            1. Kirgoudou
              Kirgoudou 2 December 2015 20: 52 New
              +5
              Do not ... This does not take him ...
              There are underground floors with a house, and even concrete floors, more than a couple of meters ...
              This nest of aspids withstands the direct hit of a vigorous bomb ...
              But if thermobaric charges constantly beat them, burning oxygen and creating a vacuum in closed rooms, ventilation, filters and just in everything that is badly clogged ... This can be tried ...
              Maybe then their eye will jump out through the ass, and the ass, through the eye ...
            2. mad
              mad 2 December 2015 21: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: vovanpain
              Maybe this will be a dream come true, peace in the whole world will immediately come.


              you need a thermonuclear there! and another control in London.
            3. Berber
              Berber 2 December 2015 21: 51 New
              0
              In addition, I am sure that one of the amers has its share there.
            4. Mik-51
              Mik-51 2 December 2015 22: 26 New
              +4
              Quote: vovanpain
              Raven raven eye on peck

              The title of the article is very correct. The mattresses themselves are smeared like in this arms and oil business, which is why a pedergan with such a greyhound is a gang of watering can. Maybe this will be a dream come true, there will immediately be world peace.


              I am also a patriot of my country. I hate too ... st ...
              But - well, you don’t need to clog up a serious site with such hat-keen pictures and rya-slogans.
              No offence...
          2. beer-youk
            beer-youk 2 December 2015 20: 59 New
            +1
            Erdogan is a typical traitor to his country and people. Apparently, Chtaty made a very attractive offer PERSONALLY (Turkey is not talking about) that he buried "Turkish Stream", "Russo Turisto", export to Russia, in short, all that was beneficial to Turkey and its people for years to come. What is not Turkish Gorbachev?
      2. Vita vko
        Vita vko 2 December 2015 19: 05 New
        24
        Quote: Wend
        It seems that the clown epidemic around the world

        Right And note that the number of viewers is not decreasing. Maybe it's time to stop the circus and start calling a spade a spade:
        terrorists and their accomplices - by terrorists;
        the fascists who staged the genocide of Donbass, now also of the Crimea, by the fascists;
        and any military intervention without the permission of the United Nations and legitimately elected authorities - aggression and war crime.
        Maybe then clowns like Parashenko and Erdogan will become smaller.
        1. quote
          quote 2 December 2015 19: 33 New
          +2
          Is that psychotherapy!? Every day is "bullshit" of another.
          The doctor said, to stand in front of the mirror and carry nonsense!? And no one will beat!
          There are no Toda questions, to the doctor.
          1. fdg45tfh
            fdg45tfh 2 December 2015 20: 43 New
            -12
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          2. fdg45tfh
            fdg45tfh 2 December 2015 20: 43 New
            -5
            Guys, I want to give advice on how to quit smoking easily! The folk remedy with which I was cured in a week also affected my wife and friends, now I recommend it to everyone - http://nnosov-d.blogspot.com
        2. tol100v
          tol100v 2 December 2015 20: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: Vita VKO
          Maybe it's time to stop the circus and start calling a spade a spade:

          It is high time. And then all the partners, yes partners. SGA the most important terrorists and only jackals their friends!
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 2 December 2015 19: 20 New
      +2
      Turkey has not yet lost its conscience to receive oil from a terrorist organization.

      Conscience is not lost, but because Turkey pays for the oil received!
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    4. foxic
      foxic 2 December 2015 19: 30 New
      +3
      to convince them of their innocence will not work ..... it seems that they will soon have to fight, and most likely, in Turkey.
    5. foxic
      foxic 3 December 2015 06: 31 New
      +1
      Thanks to the squabble Erdoganikha, a new female name will soon appear - Regepina .....
      (stolen oil was stolen from the ears, but it was impossible to get out of the easy chair. "..... the man did" - this is not about him.)
    6. Alexey Lesogor
      Alexey Lesogor 3 December 2015 08: 05 New
      +2
      Will the US fight with them? Waiting for an answer, Pentagon.


      Do not wait. I can assume that the mattress covers have oil supplied by ISIS. Turkey is only a laying between militants and "mattresses."
  2. Andrey77
    Andrey77 2 December 2015 18: 43 New
    +4
    Elissa Smith I do not know, but Melissa Smith is very nothing.
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 2 December 2015 18: 43 New
    +3
    As you might expect, maybe someone believed Erdogan. Hold your pocket wider.
    1. dorz
      dorz 2 December 2015 18: 46 New
      +7
      Nothing has changed since Samos, the former president of Nicaragua, "although this is a son of a bitch, but this is our son of a bitch."
    2. meriem1
      meriem1 2 December 2015 18: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Teberii
      As you might expect, maybe someone believed Erdogan. Hold your pocket wider.


      Of course it is! And all the evidence was shot at MOSFILM! Somewhere I've heard that before.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 2 December 2015 19: 07 New
        +2
        Quote: meriem1
        Of course so! And all the evidence was filmed on MOSFILM!

        Personally, Putin ... belay
  4. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 2 December 2015 18: 44 New
    13
    The Petagonians drove themselves into a trap, acting as the patron saint of the IG and their ally, Turkey.
    Everything is very simple. America is the roof of the ISIS project and the ultimate recipient of cheap oil. Turkey executor of the project. And the Saudis and Qatar are financially secure.
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  5. Hubun
    Hubun 2 December 2015 18: 45 New
    +4
    Well, where is the promise to leave the post?
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 2 December 2015 19: 15 New
      +4
      "So big, but you believe in fairy tales" smile Look how similar the words and actions of Poroshenko and this Perdogan are (or how is it there?). They are like twin brothers. Arrogantly, with a grin they "send" Russia. Both make impudent statements to us ... and all because they feel that the Americans are behind them.
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  7. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 2 December 2015 18: 45 New
    +7
    State Department Corporate Identity: "Deny Everything!" And at the same time, they themselves are most notorious liars. Also, by the way, corporate identity ...
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 2 December 2015 19: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      State Department Corporate Identity: "Deny Everything!" And at the same time, they themselves are most notorious liars. Also, by the way, corporate identity ...

      This is an information war. All that the enemy says is a lie. Hence these statements.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 2 December 2015 21: 42 New
      +3
      [quote = Vasyan1971] State Department corporate identity: "Deny everything!" And at the same time, they themselves are most notorious liars. Also, by the way corporate identity ... [/ quote]
      Noticeably)))
      If you look at the meaning of the statement by the Official of the US military, Elissa Smith, I highlight in bold ...
      We reject the assumption that the Turkish government is in collusion with the IG for oil smuggling. We have not seen any evidence to support such allegations. Moreover, Turkey is taking steps to strengthen the security of its border with Syria, together with international partners. Our goal here is to block the smuggling (of oil) of the IG.[/ Quote]
      ....... It turns out that the Pentagon denies contraband and at the same time blocks the contraband))) A masterpiece!
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 3 December 2015 00: 15 New
        +3
        And in my opinion, preparations are underway for the next move. Their population is preparing for the next dirty trick. They know that Russia is forced to respond and quite possibly want to play ahead of schedule. And yet, let no one deceive allegedly distancing mattresses and Europe from Erdogan and .I think this trap. They create an illusion they say figure it out yourself. Nonsense! If they were not the organizers of this meanness, then at least they would come up with an proposal for an independent commission. They are silent, because they are happy with everything and purr with pleasure what "prospects" what kind of "cream" ...
  8. fairmen
    fairmen 2 December 2015 18: 45 New
    12
    If you are dealing with a Turk, do not let the stick out of your hands.
    If you want the Turk to obey you, hit him with a stick.
    The devil has many guises, the most important of which is Turkic.
    Where the foot of the Turk stepped, the grass does not grow.
    If a Turk speaks of peace, then there will be war.
    Bad life, that neighborhood with the Turk.
  9. Absurdidat
    Absurdidat 2 December 2015 18: 45 New
    +2
    - “You are a corrupt judge!” - @ Your Ramzanchik. :)
  10. shibi
    shibi 2 December 2015 18: 46 New
    +1
    The nits stirred ...
  11. ILIA
    ILIA 2 December 2015 18: 47 New
    +4
    Well now they have)
  12. FIREMAN
    FIREMAN 2 December 2015 18: 47 New
    +4
    Well, of course, photos from Facebook and screenshots of computer games - wow!
  13. Lumumba
    Lumumba 2 December 2015 18: 47 New
    +4
    how the vote was cast at the Pentagon


    There was a thin voice from the side of the bucket
  14. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 2 December 2015 18: 48 New
    12
    Well, no one expected anything else ... Our opinion is of no interest to anyone except us; Amer propaganda has made us "hollow breeds" in the eyes of Europeans.
    Here you have the information war — tomorrow the whole world will howl that the “wild Russians” lied to the “holy” Turkey and NATO in its person.
    The only pleasure is that we post information in a wide access. Tested us information. And thinking heads in Europe there. Water sharpens the stone, as they say
    1. 15ghost10
      15ghost10 2 December 2015 19: 12 New
      +4
      I share your opinion. A few days ago I expressed my thoughts on information wars from the United States and their sixes.
      I just can’t understand why now Russia will not announce information about the events of September 11.09.01, XNUMX? After all, it is clear that the Americans were muddied by this. Why is this not being promoted through the same RT channels that are broadcast in Europe and the United States? The Americans brazenly sponsor and cover up terrorism around the world. And it's time for diplomats to voice these facts directly, rather than streamlined phrases. The time for diplomacy is ending.
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 2 December 2015 19: 36 New
        +2
        The one that used to be called propaganda, and now the information war is stronger than ever today. in the 20th century, Americans relied on the study of the psychology of the masses and introduced the results of their work into the minds of almost the entire planet — they are a superpower. Their opinion is the only and correct. The Nazis had a similar - supermen Aryans, ubermench.
        In my opinion, we are losing this war on all fronts. We can tell the West anything, give arguments, evidence, everything will be wasted (I mean the answer of the country's official representatives). We are on the subconscious of Europeans and so on. Some are “nonhumans,” savages with an atomic club who want to conquer the whole world. All this is thanks to the "healthy" Amer propaganda. In my opinion, there is only one way out - to crush your propaganda. Honestly, openly. Crush daily. The goal is to reverse the consciousness of the average European that we are not enemies, that we are a great nation that does not want to harm our neighbors.
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        2. olimpiada15
          olimpiada15 2 December 2015 21: 14 New
          +2
          What can we oppose to Western propaganda if in Russia itself there is active propaganda of denigrating and distorting the history of the country and praising those who destroyed the USSR, imposed the slave colonial economy, and today the destruction of the country's economic sovereignty continues.
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  15. Vikings
    Vikings 2 December 2015 18: 49 New
    +6
    Of course, the Pentagon does not have data on Turkey's purchase of oil from Daesh.
    What about the CIA? Really does not know about the connections of the vile Erdogan family with the
    ristami ?!
    1. nagel_Oz
      nagel_Oz 2 December 2015 21: 55 New
      +2
      Turkey is the underbelly of Russia, with a minimum approach to Sevastopol, it is also the castle of the Black Sea, these are strategic airfields, EW points, and what, will such a state be left unattended? Whatever Reggeb does, he will be a kosher (as my kids say, i.e. nishtyak, such slang :)
  16. Gardener91
    Gardener91 2 December 2015 18: 51 New
    +1
    An unambiguous condition for Turkey is the border under the castle. And international observers go there. Then, Pasha will prove his innocence, and so empty words in his defense.
  17. Captain nemo
    Captain nemo 2 December 2015 18: 54 New
    +9
    But the Pentagon "located" in a test tube "full evidence" of chemical weapons at Hussein.
    Here are just such "evidence" inspire confidence in them.
    1. parafoiler
      parafoiler 2 December 2015 19: 04 New
      +5
      Indeed, a test tube with oil would have a greater evident effect. ))) In the style of the best American traditions.
  18. Darkoff
    Darkoff 2 December 2015 18: 56 New
    +8
    Your partner stained you with stolen oil! If you do not merge it in time, then you will drown together! laughing
    They would be silent and wait, at least for Turkey’s excuses. Clumsy and unconvincing against the background of our briefing.
    I get stoned simply!
    That’s why Putin didn’t meet with Erdogan!
  19. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 2 December 2015 18: 56 New
    +2
    These anuses see only what they want to see and what it is beneficial for them to see! bully
  20. shura7782
    shura7782 2 December 2015 18: 57 New
    +4
    In vain try to shame the enemy in deceit. Provide facts and arguments, show the obvious, in this case, a waste of time.
    1. Darkoff
      Darkoff 2 December 2015 19: 02 New
      +2
      Water sharpens a stone. It is necessary to actively drip on the public opinion of the world community.
  21. Gardener91
    Gardener91 2 December 2015 19: 06 New
    +2
    300 magazines at a briefing with their agencies will do their job. The Russian Federation will be to blame for everything. They lie, it means to say and write anything, but our military is harder, because the facts were voiced and this is the only position.
  22. Monos
    Monos 2 December 2015 19: 06 New
    28
    Yes, here, here is the evidence! Where do you think they could go? Probably to Antarctica.
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 2 December 2015 19: 45 New
      0
      "What is your evidence?" (c) "Red Heat" fellow
      1. Old_Python
        Old_Python 3 December 2015 17: 18 New
        0
        "Cocaine !!!" wassat
    2. Koldunja
      Koldunja 2 December 2015 20: 51 New
      +4
      I wish I could live to see a similar photo of heroin convoys from Afghanistan.
      1. Atilag
        Atilag 3 December 2015 11: 28 New
        0
        dreams in vain sad
  23. pvv113
    pvv113 2 December 2015 19: 08 New
    +1
    The Turkish government is in collusion with the IG to smuggle oil. We have not seen any evidence to support such allegations.

    According to them, the border crossing points are not subordinate to Erdogan, and everything that is being dragged through them has nothing to do with Turkey
  24. Gardener91
    Gardener91 2 December 2015 19: 14 New
    +1
    And now the brothers are off topic and very serious. Germany and France are planning to use bases on the territory of Turkey to deploy their military contingent to combat barmaley. Pardon is still without reference.
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 2 December 2015 19: 43 New
      +4
      And now the brothers are off topic and very serious. Germany and France are going to use bases on the territory of Turkey to deploy their military contingent to combat barmaley.

      I wonder how our people will react or began to react to such a turn of events, if the Germans go to Syria + the French Americans, etc. how will our VKS work ??? And will there be any sense in Syria if we have control over a thin strip of the coast .. what
  25. Share
    Share 2 December 2015 19: 15 New
    +6
    Good disclosure, only no one in the world and the ear will not lead. You just have to keep bombing ...
  26. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 2 December 2015 19: 23 New
    +2
    U.S. military spokeswoman Elissa Smith said the US does not have data on Turkey’s ties to Daish oil smuggling.

    The information is certainly interesting, but naturally we did not hear anything new. The actions of the Pentagon fit into the standard scheme “the enemy of my enemy is my friend,” and we will never understand the Americans friends. So I think, Dear colleagues, we are waiting for the further development of the situation. hi
  27. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 2 December 2015 19: 23 New
    +2
    Erdogan n ,,,,, Bol where your resignation stinky Turkish for the bazaar must be answered man said the man did in our uralmash for this extinguish immediately
  28. Comintern
    Comintern 2 December 2015 19: 29 New
    +2
    There are now no options here until the end, you can also shun several tanks on the territory of the Turks so that it would be quite understandable.
  29. Dyagilev
    Dyagilev 2 December 2015 19: 48 New
    +2
    The facts presented at the briefing have the status of "for internal use" and a response from the Pentagon, similar to the present, until they are officially recognized by at least several other UN member countries. So you need to bring them to the UN discussion.
  30. gammipapa
    gammipapa 2 December 2015 19: 49 New
    10
    Here I came across a good video, everything on the case, without any double standards
  31. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 2 December 2015 19: 57 New
    +4
    Well, who else doubts that NATO is preparing an attack on us?
  32. gv2000
    gv2000 2 December 2015 19: 57 New
    +2
    Daesh = NATO.
  33. bumerang.
    bumerang. 2 December 2015 20: 04 New
    +5
    Let's see what the Pentagon will say when other evidence is provided, which they promised to provide at a briefing in a week.
    I am sure that these daishas are controlled by the Turks, and maybe Erdogan personally. And the Turks were present when they shot down the plane, this was discussed in the news today. And the Turks also made refugee flows, and now they receive money for this.

    Meanwhile, at the UN, Obama did not shake hands with Poroshenko.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDE1kDB7lfA
  34. Sober
    Sober 2 December 2015 20: 08 New
    +3
    Despicable, disgusting. And I don’t want to say anything.
  35. Bakht
    Bakht 2 December 2015 20: 18 New
    +6
    Too bad the briefing is incomplete. But maybe left for a snack. After all, it costs nothing to track tankers and destinations. Tankers are marked in red in the picture.

    And in real time, the link is worth clicking on the icon and full information about the vessel appears. Name, tonnage port of registry

    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ru/ais/home/centerx:36/centery:37/zoom:10
  36. kursk87
    kursk87 2 December 2015 20: 20 New
    +4
    Everything that is done against Russia will always be supported by Washington. The very existence of Russia wildly annoys US politicians. Terrorism is the work of US special services, it is a disgusting country, which also contributed to the destruction of the USSR and the Russian genocide in the 90s.
  37. DOMINO100
    DOMINO100 2 December 2015 20: 20 New
    +1
    one way out - send arrows to Ankara! once and severely in a fight against several, they always beat the chief or the instigator as a bearer. The rest see and stand. And what the hell I came here. This is the case with Turkey. I wrote earlier.
  38. Kirgoudou
    Kirgoudou 2 December 2015 20: 33 New
    +5
    It is simply necessary to ignore the statements of s, the statements of Erdogan ... And other statements. All of them are FALSE! From Alo Z.
    Shoot them down and bomb the IG!
    Bomb IS, wells, storage and oil spills and shoot down NATO aircraft over Syria.
  39. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 2 December 2015 20: 36 New
    +1
    Speaking of ravens ....
    Somehow in the 90s I EXACTLY read it in the Komsomol:
    "A terrible war has been prepared in the West. Next year, the plague will come." After the victory of one Rebellious Field New games with the Long Six will be resumed. "" Running lights, peaks from the sky, The next conflict is between fighting crows. "

    This is from Nostradamus ...
    By the way, here you can read ...
    http://horo.by/load/99-1-0-292
    I remembered it for a long time ... And then I accidentally stumbled ... Very relevant ...
  40. unsinkable
    unsinkable 2 December 2015 20: 43 New
    +1
    And what is there to comment. The title of the article says it all.
  41. bashkort
    bashkort 2 December 2015 20: 43 New
    +4
    Of course, one cannot win the information war from these professional nonsense yet. They’ve been a little skilled in this since the Middle Ages. But it’s stupid to destroy EVERYTHING that goes towards Turkey or to ports, even resembling a tank, in my opinion, it’s quite real. Erdoganchik and his accomplices like to count money, so as soon as the transit of oil is simply nothing to do, the question itself will be closed. Something like that, in my opinion.
  42. soroKING
    soroKING 2 December 2015 20: 44 New
    +2
    Quote: Monos
    Yes, here, here is the evidence! Where do you think they could go? Probably to Antarctica.

    they brought milk and juice to Syrian children stop
  43. Newfox
    Newfox 2 December 2015 20: 48 New
    +2
    If there is serious evidence of the connection between Turkey and ISIS, then what prevents it from convening the Security Council and dumping everything on it and holding it to account ?!
  44. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 2 December 2015 20: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: bashkort
    But it’s stupid to destroy EVERYTHING that goes towards Turkey or to ports, even resembling a tank, in my opinion, it’s quite real.

    It's too early to destroy evidence!
  45. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 2 December 2015 21: 12 New
    +2
    It was hard to expect other statements from the Pentagon, because, as the well-known wisdom says, the raven will not peck out the crow
    but he’ll peck, but he won’t pull it out. Ergagan, take care of your eyes.
  46. Yugra
    Yugra 2 December 2015 21: 18 New
    +5
    To bomb, bomb and bomb. Do not allow to fly into our controlled territories. If war is war. Neither the Germans nor the French will climb on us. The mattress is generally afraid to start a fight with us. We'll figure out the rest ...
    1. Kirgoudou
      Kirgoudou 2 December 2015 21: 45 New
      +5
      I agree! Ignore and bomb!
      They will climb, they will not climb - not to guess on a camomile ... WE SHOULD BE GUEST FOR EVERYTHING !!!
  47. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 2 December 2015 21: 34 New
    +8
    It is impossible to show the blind, to tell the deaf, and to prove to the stupid! That’s the whole point. It was necessary to immediately bomb that airfield from where the Turkish fighter took off! Well, they would have squandered the other day and had calmed down. Anyway: it's true, it's not true - Russia is to blame for everything ... And the tougher the answer, the quieter they will be ... Otherwise we won’t buy tomatoes. In scary ?! Yes, I generally eat those tomatoes on the drum or not. At such prices (180 rubles / kg) I do not buy them anyway. Whatever they were: Turkish, Rostov or Crimean. Why are we constantly making excuses ?! Constantly in the pose of petitioners ?! It's a shame for the Power!
  48. Kirgoudou
    Kirgoudou 2 December 2015 21: 38 New
    +6
    SUNZI - The Art of War

    “War is a way of deception. Therefore, if you can do anything,
    show the enemy as if you can’t;
    if you use anything
    show him that you are not using it;
    even if you were close, show that you are far away;
    even if you were far away, show that you are close;
    lure him with profit; get him upset and take him;
    if everything is complete with him, be ready;
    if he is strong, evade him;
    causing anger in him, bring him into a state of frustration;
    assuming a humble appearance, call forth self-conceit in him;
    if his strength is fresh, tire him;
    if he is friendly, disconnect;
    attack him when he is not ready;
    speak when he is not expecting. "

    Handbook for our commanders ...
    Has not lost relevance since then to our time ...
  49. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 2 December 2015 21: 53 New
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    Turkey has not lost conscience.

    How can one “lose” what they have HAS NOT BEEN SPIRIT? what request
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