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For the cruiser "Moscow", located off the coast of Syria, is closely watching the American destroyer

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The American destroyer Carney is monitoring the Moscow cruiser covering the Russian base in Syria, reports RIA News message channel "Star".




"For the missile cruiser" Moscow ", which covers the Russian airbase" Khmeymim ", observes the destroyer of the US Navy Carney. The ship arrived from neutral waters south of Cyprus, ”the report says.

According to the channel, "the destroyer Carney is named after Admiral Robert Carney, launched in the summer of 1994 of the year."

In addition, Turkish submarines established surveillance of the Moscow. “In particular, two submarines, the Dolun and Burakreis, are watching the ship,” the message reads.

The Russian ship settled off the coast of Syria (in the coastal part of Latakia) from November 25. It is equipped with an anti-aircraft system "Fort", which is analogous to the C-300.
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Press Service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation / RIA Novosti
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  1. prabiz
    prabiz 2 December 2015 10: 07
    65
    It is necessary to place several Bastion complexes in Syria, so that the "partners" would not feel comfortable!
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 2 December 2015 10: 07
      41
      C400 posted already, yesterday the Americans of Aleppo bombed.
      1. Temples
        Temples 2 December 2015 10: 10
        20
        Their job is to follow.
        It would be foolish not to follow.
        Do not go. They are the same.
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 2 December 2015 10: 12
          -51 qualifying.
          The fish swims overboard the cruiser "Moscow"!
          Look, "fish"! We might want to go fishing!
          The Moskva cruiser will dream of the Moskva River. Russian nostalgia will torment. So that is all!
          Fishing rods are ready!
          laughing

          Then they will write the song: "What do you dream about Cruiser Moskva? At one o'clock when morning rises over Moscow!"
          _______. By analogy: "What do you dream about the Cruiser Aurora? At the hour when morning rises over the Neva!"
          1. U-96
            U-96 2 December 2015 10: 27
            37
            Quote: Baikonur
            Look, "fish"! We might want to go fishing!
            The Moskva cruiser will dream of the Moskva River. Russian nostalgia will torment. So that is all!

            nda ... militant dementia - this is IN the coolest.
            1. Baikonur
              Baikonur 2 December 2015 10: 36
              +6
              Quote: U-96
              nda ... militant dementia - this is IN the coolest.

              Wooden dementia!
              This is a Morning Joke! To set the mood! Dilute tension!

              PS: I looked at your comments, a lot of comments on the comments! Comments-do..ri!
              1. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 10: 43
                32
                Quote: U-96
                nda ... militant dementia - this is IN the coolest.

                In the West (in the broad sense of the word), the opinion is actively circulating that in the event of an attack on the airborne forces in Syria, by NATO forces (or its individual members), on any other combat units of the Russian Navy, Russia, having suffered significant losses, will not use nuclear weapons since-scared of a global nuclear war with NATO.

                And the key moment in the whole story, despite the valor and professionalism of our military, remains a deterrent to the use of nuclear weapons. Since regionally, Turkey is much stronger (after all, it is actual at home). We have one military base there, and a missile cruiser with cover ships against the Turkish Armed Forces and their allies.

                And in this regard, I have not seen a single statement, neither the Minister of Defense, nor the President - that if something happens, it’s not for nothing that we are creating a modern look of the strategic nuclear forces. Statements that including our Strategic Rocket Forces are also ready to protect our interests in Syria and the Middle East. This would be a powerful message to everyone in general, and it would be enough to prevent provocations.

                PS
                Because what I see - the West is gradually ceasing to believe that Russia is a nuclear power. And even if nuclear, then who cares, she still does not dare to use it.
                1. hydrox
                  hydrox 2 December 2015 10: 52
                  -11 qualifying.
                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  scared of a global nuclear war with NATO.


                  Frightened the woman.
                  Yes, this NATAShke is no longer able to deliver diapers - they have been waiting for a month already, being afraid of falling under the distribution ...
                2. adept666
                  adept666 2 December 2015 11: 27
                  13
                  Because what I see - the West is gradually ceasing to believe that Russia is a nuclear power. And even if nuclear, then who cares, she still does not dare to use it.
                  I'm glad that at least someone noticed this too ...
                3. U-96
                  U-96 2 December 2015 12: 00
                  +2
                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  Because what I see - the West is gradually ceasing to believe that Russia is a nuclear power.

                  how "gradually" and how long ago? That is, in your opinion, the doctrine of nuclear deterrence is almost no longer working? Ok, then the scenario is slightly apocalyptic: since, when the instinct of self-preservation is dulled by idleness and lack of threat, it must be revived by shock, exit in a small nuclear local mess, preferably up to 21 kt and away from the shores of potential participants. The world and the "Chernobyl syndrome" are secured for another 70 years.
                  Sad.
                  1. _Vladislav_
                    _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 12: 25
                    11
                    Quote: U-96
                    how "gradually" and how long ago?

                    Here is a classic F-16 situation shot down by our Su-24. Turkey attacked Russia, since any Russian aircraft (any Russian aircraft, and even sea) is the territory of the Russian Federation.
                    And now the territory of the Russian Federation, partially destroyed, as a result of the attack, two citizens of the Russian Federation died.
                    What was the answer from the Russian Federation?
                    We haven’t shot down more than one of their planes, not killed a single Turkish soldier, not bombed more than one military facility.

                    Question: why did they (the Turks) do this, because they were aware that the Russian Federation is a nuclear power.
                    Answer: Yes, it’s okay that nuclear, all the same, it does not use it to protect its own interests and citizens.
                    1. armata37
                      armata37 2 December 2015 13: 20
                      +2
                      You are sorry, but your some kind of hidden incitement to the use of nuclear weapons by Russia is a little annoying.
                      Sorry for the pilot, sorry for the Marine. This is the least I can say as condolences.
                      But why get into a conflict with a hot head? They took economic measures. Let's wait for the consequences.

                      Or do you want to go to the UN again and bang your shoe? Personally, I'm funny in that case. It’s better to think over the strategy softly and then hit it painfully. What to yell at the whole world we all bend.

                      And yet - no one forgot that Russia is a nuclear power. It's just that Russia is not a fool now.

                      Georgia in 2008 then needed to be turned into a desert, and there the losses of peacekeepers were even greater.
                      1. _Vladislav_
                        _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 14: 05
                        +3
                        Quote: armata37
                        Georgia in 2008 then needed to be turned into a desert, and there the losses of peacekeepers were even greater.

                        It will not work with Turkey as with Georgia. Turkey is a regional power, Georgia is a small fry (and even not a member of NATO).

                        As regards the use of nuclear weapons, what I want to note is that in the event of an armed conflict between the Russian Federation and Turkey, there will not be enough forces to demolish Turkey with conventional weapons. Fighting so, Russia will not succeed, or rather lose. And so that this does not happen, in case of escalation of the conflict, it will be necessary to use the very trump card that cools hot heads in the west.

                        It is possible that its single application will force our enemies to stop. But this is only an assumption. The problem is that just in this, in the West, some do not believe - which may also cause an escalation of the conflict.
                      2. Starley from the south
                        Starley from the south 2 December 2015 16: 26
                        +3
                        Quote: _Vladislav_
                        to demolish Turkey with conventional weapons - there aren’t enough forces.

                        Believe me, there will be enough strength. Firstly, because the whole of Turkey will not be demolished either. The Turks have never been very courageous, their fortitude is not at all what we have. The destruction of several large military facilities and command centers will force them to surrender. Of course, this does not take into account the fact that the Turks will run to complain to Uncle Sam and for his sake he will get into a nuclear war with an unpredictable outcome. In any case, the Turks will have nothing to worry about, because in any situation Turkey will disappear in its current form.
                      3. _Vladislav_
                        _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 16: 51
                        0
                        Quote: Starley from the South
                        The destruction of several large military facilities and command centers will force them to surrender.

                        It remains only to figure out what means and forces you will destroy these several objects. And whether Turkey will answer according to the VKS under Latakia because of this, or on the ships of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea.
                        And for how long in time, do you intend to take part in this conflict, fighting both ISIS and Turkey. And maybe with NATO. Would you get caught ....
                      4. Starley from the south
                        Starley from the south 2 December 2015 18: 24
                        0
                        My dear man, we are not the Ivory Coast in the end! .. After all, we have land-to-ground missiles, which, as recent events have shown, are quite accurate and long-range. And we have not so few such missiles (read the news). In any case, there will be enough of them for the desired purpose and once again there will be more left in 10.
                      5. igorka357
                        igorka357 2 December 2015 19: 03
                        +1
                        How many videoconferencing under Latakia is what you settled ... is it possible that 50% of our videoconferencing is concentrated there? Yes, even 1% is not there ..
              2. U-96
                U-96 2 December 2015 13: 32
                0
                Quote: _Vladislav_
                since any Russian aircraft (any Russian aircraft, and even a sea one) is the territory of the Russian Federation

                as far as I remember, the Armed Forces and the Maritime Forces lose the sign of extraterritoriality if it is the subject of violation of the state border of the sovereign) But the Turks pedal this, and their allies assent to them.
                Quote: _Vladislav_
                What was the answer from the Russian Federation?

                compensation claim for
                Quote: _Vladislav_
                territory of the Russian Federation, partially destroyed

                Quote: _Vladislav_
                Question: why did they (the Turks) do this, because they were aware that the Russian Federation is a nuclear power.
                That is, you believe, the fear of an asymmetric nuclear response should deter our potential adversaries from any unfriendly stocks? This is at least ridiculous. There were a lot of borderline episodes - only MiGi-17s brought down four Americans with casualties among crews in 15 years. The reason for the nuclear vendetta is not. Gopnik rarely stops the realization that his victim has a shotgun. At home. In the safe.
                1. _Vladislav_
                  _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 14: 16
                  +6
                  Quote: U-96
                  That is, you believe that the fear of an asymmetric nuclear response should deter our potential adversaries from any unfriendly actions? This is at least ridiculous.

                  That is, I believe, or rather, I’m sure that no military response was followed (only declarations of what we will shoot down if again and stop buying your tomatoes).

                  In Soviet times - this is generally another song, there just reciprocal moves suggested mutual Destruction of various enemy units. (According to the principle: you are us, oh so, well then we are you). And here only we were overwhelmed, and so far we are nobody.

                  And if you are a terrible power, but do not want to bite (not necessarily using nuclear weapons), then the question is, maybe you can not bite. And then you probably aren’t so afraid of the campaign, and it turns out that you can fill up a couple more of your planes.
                2. armata37
                  armata37 2 December 2015 14: 34
                  +1
                  And here only we were overwhelmed, and so far we are nobody.


                  I have no doubt that we can fill up, only a week has passed, we'll see ...

                  Your attitude to what is happening is understandable and it has a place to be. Of course, because they shot down our plane. I would also like to hit the Turks in the back so that they are completely lost. I’m waiting for what will happen next.

                  It happened to us with the Germans: they taught them, fed them, and then once they all stood up against us.
                3. U-96
                  U-96 2 December 2015 16: 12
                  0
                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  And if you are a terrible power, but do not want to bite (not necessarily using nuclear weapons), then the question is, maybe you can not bite. And then you probably aren’t so afraid of the campaign, and it turns out that you can fill up a couple more of your planes.

                  deadly logic. It is strange how the lovers of parallels with the Second World War did not catch up with "but, in XNUMX, there was also an order not to respond to provocations, and they waited ...".
                4. igorka357
                  igorka357 2 December 2015 19: 05
                  0
                  So the Turks don’t fly now ... or they fly ..))? I doubt that you will bring the facts ..))
              3. Starley from the south
                Starley from the south 2 December 2015 16: 29
                0
                Quote: U-96
                Gopnik rarely stops the consciousness that his victim has a shotgun. Houses. In the safe.

                But, continuing your analogy, we can say that if you shoot a gopnik’s foot out of a shotgun, he will cease to be a gopnik and, willy-nilly, will think about an honest life.
            2. Starley from the south
              Starley from the south 2 December 2015 16: 18
              +1
              Quote: _Vladislav_
              What was the answer from the Russian Federation?
              We haven’t shot down more than one of their planes, not killed a single Turkish soldier, not bombed more than one military facility.

              You are wrong. We replied: they killed several dozen terrorists with Turkish passports in Syria immediately after the destruction of our aircraft. Most likely, some of them were not just Turkish citizens, but special services. And most importantly, the Turks have not renewed the cash flow from oil trading with terrorists.
              1. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 17: 57
                +2
                Quote: Starley from the South
                You are wrong. We replied: they killed several dozen terrorists with Turkish passports in Syria immediately after the destruction of our aircraft.

                Awesome answer, really.
                The Turkish Air Force destroyed our bomber, and we crushed some left gopniks in the mountains. But at the same time, these gopniks hit our helicopter with the American TOW missile complex, after filming everything on camera. Then, preventing our turntables from landing again and again for evacuation.

                All that was later told to us - the pilot was saved and everyone was killed completely. But the sediment on the soul, from what he saw, clearly remained and very not good.
              2. Starley from the south
                Starley from the south 2 December 2015 18: 26
                +1
                Quote: _Vladislav_
                But the sediment on the soul, from what he saw, clearly remained and very not good.

                In this I agree with you, all the same, the sediment in the soul remained.
          2. igorka357
            igorka357 2 December 2015 19: 01
            0
            Oh dear, you just can’t imagine how many of our VKS bombed Turkish .. not one hundred gas tankers have already been burned, and the Turkoman villages, allegedly for which the Turks harnessed for one version, generally plowed the ground .. and the plane wasn’t shot down more than one because the Turks are very cautious, they don’t want to fly into Syria anymore .. strange ... and the Turks forgot something about the Turkoman immediately! Putin acts absolutely logically and correctly, he directly accuses the Turks of aiding daish .. and tries to prove that it is so..through the MO, and intelligence I think doesn’t doze off .. he drives the wedge into the block more and more, Europe seems to be against daish .. but at the same time, Europe and Turkey are in the same block, and sooner or later Europe will have to make a choice. .and Amers, he can shock! And there is no threat to the country from one downed plane, and the doctrine clearly spells out the use of nuclear weapons ... there are probably no words that are so desirable for you ... use nuclear weapons to raise the profile of the country .. !!!
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      4. Starley from the south
        Starley from the south 2 December 2015 16: 10
        +3
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        the West is gradually ceasing to believe that Russia is a nuclear power. And even if nuclear, then who cares, she still does not dare to use it.

        Very similar to that. In general, NATO and Geyropa have ceased to understand words. Most likely, they will begin to understand the words when they are hit on the head harder. By the way, in our military doctrine, is there any mention of the possibility of using nuclear weapons in the event of aggression? I think that at the next provocation (and they will, the Turks have never behaved honestly, they are accustomed to acting meanly!) We must immediately, without much ado, deliver a nuclear strike on Turkey! Unfortunately, we now live in a vile, deceitful world, at least in that part of it that the West represents, and they do not want to understand anything. Just like drug addicts who think about nothing but a dose, so our "partners" are unable to think about anything but how to weaken Russia. After a nuclear strike, our relations with Geyropa will deteriorate ... Are they at our best? And why ... we need mattress covers and Geyropa, we never saw anything good from them!
  • frost1979
    frost1979 2 December 2015 11: 00
    12
    Quote: Baikonur
    The fish swims overboard the cruiser "Moscow"!
    Look, "fish"! We might want to go fishing!
    The Moskva cruiser will dream of the Moskva River. Russian nostalgia will torment. So that is all!
    Fishing rods are ready!
    laughing

    Then they will write the song: "What do you dream about Cruiser Moskva? At one o'clock when morning rises over Moscow!"
    _______. By analogy: "What do you dream about the Cruiser Aurora? At the hour when morning rises over the Neva!"

    "Moron, b..d")))
  • Starley from the south
    Starley from the south 2 December 2015 16: 44
    0
    Quote: Baikonur
    Then they will write the song: "What do you dream about Cruiser Moskva? At one o'clock when morning rises over Moscow!"

    Rather, they will write another song: "What did you dream about Cruiser Moscow, your volleys were not demolished by Ankara!"
  • hydrox
    hydrox 2 December 2015 10: 49
    +2
    Quote: Temples
    Their job is to follow.


    Well, follow, so what?
    The Moscow crew must also train, gain combat training: after all, if something happens, Moscow will have enough salvo from one side to send the crew of this destroyer to feed the fish.
  • Col.
    Col. 2 December 2015 13: 13
    +3
    Quote: Temples
    Their job is to follow.


    That's right. Establishment of observation and tracking (these are different concepts) of the potential enemy in the so-called OBK (AMG, KUG, DESO, KON, etc.) advanced zones is one of the main tasks of the naval forces (Navy) of all NATO countries, Russia, China, Japan ... This is a normal everyday activity.... Therefore, this article is "news" from the series "Janitor Petrov swept the yard of house No. 15". So what?
  • Aroma77
    Aroma77 2 December 2015 10: 22
    +8
    not yesterday, but last Thursday was bombed
  • murking
    murking 2 December 2015 11: 37
    +3
    This garbage about Aleppo stuffing it was a long time, while the consultations are going on, after them only the Yankees will fly and then only in the north.
  • Homo
    Homo 2 December 2015 12: 18
    +9
    Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
    C400 posted already, yesterday the Americans of Aleppo bombed.


    There are more and more such idiotic comments. It became impossible to read comments on VO. Completely stupid comments, but "patriotic" to the very ass. There is a great desire to "score" on VO, as the forum ceases to be SMART! It looks like commentators are given stars for shoulder straps in exchange for brains, plus a star, minus 10 grams of brain!
    And according to the commentary specifically - C400 was placed not to shoot down American planes but to protect our planes from attack !!!
  • Wild_grey_wolf
    Wild_grey_wolf 2 December 2015 10: 08
    10
    Quote: prabiz
    It is necessary to place several Bastion complexes in Syria, so that the "partners" would not feel comfortable!


    This was already clear, everyone was following each other and it was possible to build up the group like this ad infinitum. The fact of the matter is that one who is legally in the territory, and does not fly stealthily or in the back, has a strategic advantage. The Bastion would sensibly frighten the Partners. . .
    1. _Vladislav_
      _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 10: 16
      10
      Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
      you can build up the group like this ad infinitum.

      This is just impossible forever. By the fact that in the end the quantitative superiority will be with the Turkish side and the NATO countries. Especially in the conditions when there is a French aircraft carrier and the German flotilla is still on its way.

      I will not go into details now - will they all fight against us if something happens?

      But in the end, quantitative superiority will be on the side of the likely enemy (this is due to geographical).
      And for this in this case, the reluctance to fight with Russia is based on the likelihood of its use of nuclear weapons.
      1. unsinkable
        unsinkable 2 December 2015 10: 35
        +3
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        will they all fight with us if something happens?

        Details are not necessary, colleague, since ...
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        And for this in this case, the reluctance to fight with Russia is based on the likelihood of its use of nuclear weapons.

        You yourself answered your own question. hi
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 10: 50
          10
          Quote: unsinkable
          You yourself answered your own question.

          No, well, it's just that in VO, among forum users there is an opinion - that in the case of large-scale military operations in the Middle East against Russia, we will tear all of them diagonally there.
          And since this is not entirely true, I am simply explaining. That the Russian Air Force and Navy in Syria are capable of inflicting some damage on the enemy before the enemy (if he decides to fight anyway) destroys everything there. And then Russia will have to think about how soon the ICBMs will rush to the goal.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 2 December 2015 11: 11
            +3
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            That the Russian Air Force and Navy in Syria are capable of inflicting some damage on the enemy before the enemy (if he decides to fight anyway) destroys everything there.

            what I think our military needs to arrange serious nuclear tests on Novaya Zemlya, plus to conduct exercises and interaction of the Armed Forces in the application of nuclear weapons - for good with simulation and actual use of nuclear weapons of ultra-low power.
      2. 44 World
        44 World 2 December 2015 10: 38
        +2
        It is good that we do not live in the 19th century and the quantity is no longer a determining factor for victory; we have enough qualitative (the latest weapons, electronic warfare, experienced command personnel) factors, which will be an advantage
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 11: 02
          12
          Quote: 44World
          It is good that we do not live in the 19th century and the quantity is no longer a determining factor for victory; we have enough qualitative (the latest weapons, electronic warfare, experienced command personnel) factors, which will be an advantage

          The NATO forces also have enough qualitative factors to destroy the existing armed forces of the Russian Federation in this region. There is no advantage in this.
          The fundamental factor is the determination to commit (or not to commit) certain actions against the Russian Federation, without fear of consequences.
          1. Valentine
            Valentine 2 December 2015 12: 41
            +2
            I already wrote on VO that is urgently needed, on all channels
            The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the media, TV, etc., to distribute a memorandum of caution that in case of an attack on any ship of the Russian Navy and VKS, all means will be used
            counteraction, both conventional weapons and nuclear. The epicenter of the alleged clashes will be Turkey and Syria, but Turkey will suffer the first blows, as the aggressor country, the first to undertake aggression against Russia .... Mammal, in this case, is impossible. Hiroshima was enough for Japan. and Nagasaki, and the whole world was quiet for a long time.
            1. _Vladislav_
              _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 12: 45
              +2
              Quote: Valentine
              Hiroshima and Nagasaki were enough for Japan, and the whole world was quiet for a long time.

              The world fell silent - because it was a precedent. No one had more nuclear weapons except the Americans.
              Today nuclear weapons have become widespread in different countries of the world, and the methods of their delivery are very diverse.
              1. Valentine
                Valentine 2 December 2015 13: 09
                0
                This, of course, is true, but THIS will be a very strong argument - to make EVERYONE think. Israel, India, China,
                France, England and Pakistan will not use nuclear weapons against us, it’s more expensive for themselves, I don’t even talk about the DPRK, but the United States, so vilely, from the corner, easily.
            2. U-96
              U-96 2 December 2015 13: 58
              -2
              Quote: Valentine
              etc. spread a memorandum of caution

              Well....? Well, they distributed it in all the newspapers, stuck it on poles, sent out sms, even Petrosyan announced before the concert - in general, they made everyone laugh. And then what?
              Quote: Valentine
              Turkey as an aggressor country

              already an "aggressor"?
              Quote: Valentine
              Mammal, in this case, is impossible. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were enough for Japan

              yeah, you can't be called a mumbler, your sofa is clearly made from the remains of a decommissioned armored personnel carrier ... "the whole world is in dust!" (c) ... Y-yes.
              1. Valentine
                Valentine 2 December 2015 19: 50
                0
                U-96. I don't need to la-la about armored personnel carriers, as well as about tanks and MLRS. For a year and a half of the war, I saw them and "heard enough", both arrivals and responses, and God forbid you hear this around the clock, reviewer. I don’t give you a minus, you still don’t understand.
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 2 December 2015 11: 06
          +3
          Quote: 44World
          It is good that we do not live in the 19th century and the quantity is no longer a determining factor for victory; we have enough qualitative (the latest weapons, electronic warfare, experienced command personnel) factors, which will be an advantage

          I put you a minus - I’ll try to explain why - All of your opponents have listed that NATO is not Afghans or even Georgians. EW, experienced command personnel and everything else is there, and we will never catch them with modern conventional weapons. Everything is simple here - unification of many countries - a lot of money - a lot of weapons - constant orders from factories and investments in R&D. As Vladislav wrote, in the event of a turmoil in Syria, they will tear the heating pad there as a Tuzik, but in the event of a real threat of using nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons, they will most likely come to their senses.
      3. murking
        murking 2 December 2015 12: 01
        -2
        They won’t be able to do anything if we create a restricted area (work is already underway). All their power in aviation, when everything is done, their aviation will not even fly and the air will be completely ours, which will make it easy to deal with Turkish armor. Even with optimistic assessments by NATO generals, in the first wave of the breakthrough of these zones, they will lose 60-70% of NATO aviation, this simply means that such an attack is pointless. You only need to solve the problem of placing bastions to protect from the sea. (Asadovsky is not enough)
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 12: 36
          0
          Quote: murking
          They won’t be able to fuck us if we create a restricted area (work is already underway). Their full strength is in aviation, when everything is done their aviation will not even fly and our air will be completely

          What kind of concept? Something became interesting .... for more details please.
          Why can they not fly up and what is the main striking factor of such weapons (systems, complexes, complexes of complexes)?
          1. 44 World
            44 World 2 December 2015 13: 19
            0
            Perhaps a Lever with its 300km range?
            1. _Vladislav_
              _Vladislav_ 2 December 2015 14: 57
              0
              Quote: 44World
              Perhaps a Lever with its 300km range?

              Helicopter complexes with an active jamming station "Lever-AV" are cool.
              If it has no analogues - generally excellent.
              If it works efficiently, it will be very excellent.

              It’s just that at the moment it’s not reliably known that Rygach inflicted some damage on anyone, or created inconvenience.
          2. True
            True 2 December 2015 16: 50
            +1
            He’ll find corruption, don’t go to the grandmother.
    2. max702
      max702 2 December 2015 10: 21
      13
      Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
      The fact of the matter is that one who is legally on the territory, and does not fly stealthily

      the fact that the United States spat on who is legally in the territory, all these agreements are destiny of the weak .. As they need, they are turned around without bothering with all sorts of legal subtleties .. The right of the strong ..
    3. varov14
      varov14 2 December 2015 11: 05
      +4
      The advantage is not strategic, but merely informational in our media for you and me. This is not the Caucasus, which was inside, but behind the whole country.
    4. CONTROL
      CONTROL 2 December 2015 11: 42
      -1
      [quote = Wild_Grey_Wolf] [quote = prabiz] It is necessary to place several Bastion complexes in Syria so that the "partners" would not feel comfortable! [/ quote]

      ... Nu-nu ..
      [quote = Wild_Grey_Wolf] The Bastion would sensibly scare the Partners. . . [/ quote]
      A hippo swims across the Nile, sees: a monkey is sitting in an ambush, in the hands of an RPG, behind another one ...
      -What are you hunting for? - asks.
      - Yes, you see ... on a crocodile! - the monkey answers irritably.
      “What did he do to you?”
      - His mouth is wide! Will make you understand! ...
      -Nu-nu .. - said the hippopotamus and swam himself further ... away ...
  • Finches
    Finches 2 December 2015 10: 09
    +8
    I really hope that our submarine is watching this rusty American trough ...!
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 2 December 2015 10: 28
      +3
      Quote: Finches
      I really hope that our submarine is watching this rusty American trough ...!

      The main purpose of this old trough is a timely warning of a volley from "Moscow". So that the Turks had time to dump on their territory before the missiles catch them. In order to then accuse the Russian Federation of unlawful revenge and all deadly sins in one. request
      1. Vikings
        Vikings 2 December 2015 12: 09
        +2
        By your posts you can see you are not in the topic! To observe
        there are radars in salvos from the cruiser.
        visual observation.
    2. starpom
      starpom 2 December 2015 10: 47
      13
      Quote: Finches
      what's behind this rusty american trough

      Well, actually, this is a rusty trough 11 years younger than "Moscow"
      1. Terner38
        Terner38 2 December 2015 10: 54
        0
        Young green!
      2. Finches
        Finches 2 December 2015 11: 11
        +3
        Do you want me to write - a magnificent, marine handsome man, proudly carrying a star-striped flag, a destroyer ??? laughing
    3. kote119
      kote119 2 December 2015 10: 49
      +2
      Quote: Finches
      I really hope that our submarine is watching this rusty American trough ...!


      compared to our cruiser, this "trough" will be 10 years newer
    4. zekaze1980
      zekaze1980 2 December 2015 11: 00
      +1
      And for our them, and so on in a circle. Now everything and everything is there.
    5. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 2 December 2015 11: 18
      +2
      Quote: Finches
      I really hope that our submarine is watching this rusty American trough ...!

      Frankly, I didn’t expect such a comment .. I wouldn’t have read it before and didn’t agree, I wouldn’t even have thought ..
      1. Finches
        Finches 2 December 2015 11: 21
        +2
        Nikolay! hi

        I just have a good mood, unsuitable for too serious analysis! wink

        If this is what you meant!
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 2 December 2015 11: 37
          +1
          Quote: Finches
          If this is what you meant!

          Well, I understood something like that - in the general style .. laughing
  • Vend
    Vend 2 December 2015 10: 10
    +5
    Quote: prabiz
    It is necessary to place several Bastion complexes in Syria, so that the "partners" would not feel comfortable!

    It is necessary for our flyers to repeat the Black Sea maneuver. So it’s not bad to follow.
    1. U-96
      U-96 2 December 2015 10: 34
      -1
      Quote: Wend
      It is necessary for our flyers to repeat the Black Sea maneuver.

      a tenacious myth. Well-worn, haggard, but tenacious.
  • tlauicol
    tlauicol 2 December 2015 10: 10
    +8
    "Yakhont" was delivered to the Syrians. Americans don't shit
  • Vikings
    Vikings 2 December 2015 10: 11
    -2
    By Amer’s standards, the eta vessel has outlived its own. But
    boats are serious. But in any case, smack the fever
    not worth it. I think who needs to monitor the situation, do
    output!
    1. U-96
      U-96 2 December 2015 10: 30
      +7
      Quote: Vikings
      By Amer’s standards, eta vessel has outlived its

      and the aegis and tomahawks on its board too have outlived their own?
      1. 0255
        0255 2 December 2015 10: 38
        +8
        Quote: U-96
        Quote: Vikings
        By Amer’s standards, eta vessel has outlived its

        and the aegis and tomahawks on its board too have outlived their own?

        according to our jingoistic patriots, not only "Aegis" and "Tomahawks" have outlived theirs, but the United States is about to fall apart from its debt laughing
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 2 December 2015 16: 31
          0
          Quote: 0255
          according to our jingoistic patriots, not only "Aegis" and "Tomahawks" have outlived theirs, but the United States is about to fall apart from its debt
          Or Yellowstone is about to erupt)
      2. Corporal Valera
        Corporal Valera 2 December 2015 11: 09
        -3
        Quote: U-96
        and the aegis and tomahawks on its board too have outlived their own?

        It is far both from cap-hatred, and from all-proverbialism. Khibiny Aegis not covered?
        1. U-96
          U-96 2 December 2015 11: 23
          +1
          Quote: Corporal Valera
          Khibiny Aegis not covered?

          no
      3. Vikings
        Vikings 2 December 2015 11: 59
        +1
        You lied about Aegis, but how about our s-300M: FORT:
        1. U-96
          U-96 2 December 2015 14: 01
          0
          Quote: Vikings
          You lied about Aegis

          prove the opposite.
    2. spravochnik
      spravochnik 2 December 2015 13: 18
      0
      "Moscow" is no younger.
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 2 December 2015 10: 24
    +1
    The missile cruiser Moskva, which covers the Russian airbase Khmeimim, is being watched by the US Navy destroyer Carney ..... In addition, Turkish submarines have been monitoring Moskva. "In particular, two submarines are watching the ship -" Dolunay "and" Burakreis ""

    This is goal # 1 if something suddenly starts.
  • max702
    max702 2 December 2015 10: 27
    +6
    It reminds you of hunting for the SU-24 .. They also watched for a long time, drew maps, prepared the mat part, and struck at the most opportune moment .. By the way, I didn’t see the information anywhere, but whether the Turkish armed forces were put on high alert during the destruction of our aircraft ? This is a very significant signal, and its repetition will say a lot.
  • sub307
    sub307 2 December 2015 10: 39
    -1
    "It is necessary to place ..." If it was "necessary", then most likely, but rather probably, it was posted. The categorical nature of such "advice from the couch" is at least slightly surprising. At least they wrote - "I think ...", "in my opinion", etc.
    Haven't you noticed that any of our "deployment" is followed by at least a "symmetric" reaction of the "interested" in the deployment of their forces and means? We need to think first, and there is actually someone.
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  • varov14
    varov14 2 December 2015 10: 56
    +2
    Sticking to them under the bottom would be great.
  • Yuuki
    Yuuki 2 December 2015 11: 39
    -1
    +1 Also thought about it.
  • trenitron
    trenitron 2 December 2015 12: 45
    0
    Quote: prabiz
    It is necessary to place several Bastion complexes in Syria, so that the "partners" would not feel comfortable!

    They are there, only this is a secret "lenta.ru/news/2011/12/01/bastion"
  • bif
    bif 2 December 2015 12: 56
    0
    Quote: prabiz
    It is necessary to place several Bastion complexes in Syria, so that the "partners" would not feel comfortable!

    The bastions for several years in service with the ATS
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 2 December 2015 13: 41
    -1
    I am sure that our submarines are also watching the Turks and the Yankees. "Moscow" is definitely not alone there.
    Game: "who will follow whom" lol
  • Vikings
    Vikings 2 December 2015 10: 07
    -12 qualifying.
    Destroyer loudly, rusty vessel!
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 2 December 2015 10: 09
      10
      The destroyer was launched in 1994, and our Moscow, in which you will not prompt ????
      1. Vikings
        Vikings 2 December 2015 10: 30
        0
        I will prompt and point out. Look at the armament snap
        opportunities!
        1. U-96
          U-96 2 December 2015 10: 58
          0
          Quote: Vikings
          I will prompt and point out. Look at the armament snap
          opportunities!

          So what? As I understand it, are you fantasizing about a duel Moscow vs Carney?
          1. Vikings
            Vikings 2 December 2015 11: 34
            -2
            And then! As I understand it, your fantasy is wild
            not limited!
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 3 December 2015 17: 33
              0
              in vain you are so ... berks - good machines for their class and tasks!
      2. starpom
        starpom 2 December 2015 11: 43
        +3
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Moscow in which you will not prompt ????


        Launched 1982 year
        Commissioned 1983 year
        1. U-96
          U-96 2 December 2015 12: 03
          0
          Quote: starpom
          Launched 1982 year

          Glory
      3. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 2 December 2015 13: 03
        0
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        The destroyer was launched in 1994, and our Moscow, in which you will not prompt ????

        And what will the American destroyer attack with ours? On US destroyers of 8 Harpoon missiles, and not all, the launchers were removed on new versions. The new anti-ship missile LRASM (adapted to launch from the UV-Mk-41) has not yet been adopted.
        1. U-96
          U-96 2 December 2015 16: 18
          -1
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          And what will the American destroyer attack with ours?

          yes nothing. No one will attack anyone. Demonstrative effect of presence. Enough of hypothetical battles to draw.
    2. TeKuS
      TeKuS 2 December 2015 10: 53
      +6
      This is not a "rusty piece of paper" ... take the trouble to read it ..
      1. Vikings
        Vikings 2 December 2015 11: 37
        -2
        He bothered and was able to descend to the answer to you!
        Honor the syllables of the capabilities of the missile cruiser
        more than once undergoing modernization and this vessel!
        1. Tektor
          Tektor 2 December 2015 14: 52
          0
          It’s just that this observer, the US Navy destroyer Carney, is haunted by Donald Cook’s laurels ... If they don’t bring enough diapers with them, then the destroyer will ruin the air ...
  • Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 2 December 2015 10: 07
    +3
    The destroyer is also monitored and kept on the fly)))
  • atk44849
    atk44849 2 December 2015 10: 08
    -6
    haha! and the switch of this destroyer is with us! EW systems!
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  • DAYMAN
    DAYMAN 2 December 2015 10: 09
    +1
    ... Moscow is following Carney ... wink
  • Altona
    Altona 2 December 2015 10: 10
    -2
    B (h) children of the enemy. Digging, sitting in diapers.
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 2 December 2015 10: 15
      +7
      do not seem to be awake. and diapers are not visible
      1. Tjeck
        Tjeck 2 December 2015 10: 31
        0
        it was necessary to cut a spare version of the anthem, let them know that we will return as suddenly as we left laughing
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 2 December 2015 11: 04
          -3
          Quote: Tjeck
          it was necessary to cut a spare version of the anthem

          Ukrainians also went to the air base under the belbek under the anthem ///
          1. U-96
            U-96 2 December 2015 11: 19
            0
            Quote: gispanec
            Ukrainians also went to the air base under the belbek under the anthem ///

            ... and with the chant "America is with us!" Something is not in the stream You, comrade.
            1. gispanec
              gispanec 2 December 2015 11: 42
              +5
              Quote: U-96
              and with the chant "America is with us!" Something is not in the stream You, comrade.

              and I don’t try to stream it, I am an individual ..... and I don’t care a lot about it ... I didn’t write that I need to shout Obama is with us or Putin is with us, I noticed that there is no need for Ukrainians to be likened to does not coincide with the opinion of the pseudo-patriots, then I’m parallel ... 80 percent of comments look so ridiculous in any article that I’m starting to understand .... on the censor the mat and immediately in the ban and block ..... here in the minus ... and if you remove the curtains, in principle, are no different from the crimson patriot in VO from the banderlog on the censor, sticking a photo that does not correspond to the article is normal .... write nonsense in the comments to a competent person identity standards, sometimes the articles themselves cause not only a smile but also thoughts and adequates are the authors .... however, I’m not a judge and it just pains me to read frantic comments ... let's turn our mind on emotions
              1. U-96
                U-96 2 December 2015 12: 21
                -1
                Quote: gispanec
                and I don’t try to stream it, I am an individual ..... and I don’t care a lot about it ... I didn’t write that I need to shout Obama is with us or Putin is with us, I noticed that there is no need for Ukrainians to be likened to does not coincide with the opinion of pseudo-patriots, then I’m parallel ..

                ah, well, that means just a little misunderstanding, sorry)
                Quote: gispanec
                .a if you remove the curtains, then, in principle, the purple patriot in VO is no different from the banderlog on the censor

                It's right. One question: why
                Quote: gispanec
                crimson

                ? laughing
                1. gispanec
                  gispanec 2 December 2015 14: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: U-96
                  One question: why

                  crimson-red-bloody ..... they want to smear with vigorous matren so that the whole world is in ruin
                  1. U-96
                    U-96 2 December 2015 16: 20
                    +1
                    Quote: gispanec
                    they want to smudge with vigorous matren so that the whole world is in ruin

                    ah-ah, and "the strait named after Comrade Stalin"? This is their favorite button accordion. And every time they post like a fresh spice.
      2. Lord_Sita
        Lord_Sita 2 December 2015 11: 03
        0
        There somewhere around two of our SKR go. One could send there.
    2. U-96
      U-96 2 December 2015 10: 31
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      B (h) children of the enemy. Digging, sitting in diapers.

      stop URYaishnichat. The diapers theme is on the move again?
      1. Altona
        Altona 2 December 2015 10: 55
        +1
        Quote: U-96
        stop URYaishnichat. The diapers theme is on the move again?

        ------------------------
        What do you care? You might think you read my posts in 3-4 paragraphs? In a war, you can occasionally make fun of yourself, and fast up ... But do not sit smart and teach everyone and everything ...
        1. U-96
          U-96 2 December 2015 11: 04
          +1
          Quote: Altona
          What do you care?

          ok go on.
          Quote: Altona
          and fasting ...

          and what is the banter?
  • Magic archer
    Magic archer 2 December 2015 10: 11
    +6
    I think that our submariners are already watching the destroyer. However, like the Turkish boats hi
  • Decathlon
    Decathlon 2 December 2015 10: 12
    0
    Fake or what ?! Tell me who is in the subject! hi "Arab media reported that in Syria, not far from the border with Turkey, communication with two Russian Mi-8 helicopters was allegedly lost. According to some reports, this happened in the same area where the Su-24 hit by the Turkish Air Force crashed."
    1. just exp
      just exp 2 December 2015 10: 15
      +2
      Arab media write a lot of things, only here if we wait for official news
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 2 December 2015 10: 36
        +2
        Quote: just explo
        Arab media write a lot of things, only here if we wait for official news



        Um ... Look in the news feed ... Is there something ...

        In general, neither the Mujahideen, nor the Turks calm down ... Smoke and burning in the air smells more and more ...
        1. True
          True 2 December 2015 10: 48
          +1
          It is necessary to withdraw ours from Syria. They transmit them there, and we will close the McDonald's in response .... We should not meddle there if we were not ready to go to the end. It is clear that there will be provocations, especially if they are not answered properly.
    2. U-96
      U-96 2 December 2015 10: 40
      0
      Quote: Decathlon
      Fake or what ?! Tell me who's in the subject! "Arab media reported that in Syria, not far from the border with Turkey, communication with two Russian Mi-8 helicopters was allegedly lost. According to some reports, this happened in the same area where the Su-24 hit by the Turkish Air Force crashed."

      what date?
    3. JonnyT
      JonnyT 2 December 2015 11: 15
      0
      button accordion)))) from ukro-media passed
      1. Decathlon
        Decathlon 2 December 2015 15: 48
        +1
        That's it guys! I found this "bayan player": 1news.az! That is still a garbage dump, Azerbaijanis mow under the censor! I beg your pardon for the confusion! hi
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires 2 December 2015 10: 18
    -5
    In general, "Moskva" is one of those ships whose crew may be offended that they did not send seeds, but some kind of lousy destroyer. laughing
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 2 December 2015 10: 35
      +2
      Yes, and throw a note of protest: why was one destroyer sent to control the "Moscow", and not AUG !? Have you completely lost your fear?
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 2 December 2015 11: 24
        +1
        Quote: 1976AG
        Yes, and throw a note of protest: why was one destroyer sent to control the "Moscow", and not AUG !? Have you completely lost your fear?

        what Americans don’t understand the jokes at all - they can drive the AUG easily, but most likely their submarines are also spinning nearby.
  • 3officer
    3officer 2 December 2015 10: 21
    +2
    To keep the American destroyer at bay, our people use garlic and the anthem of the Soviet Union angry
  • lwxx
    lwxx 2 December 2015 10: 23
    +5
    Keep track of their duty, ours are also being watched. It wouldn’t work like with Su24, otherwise partners, partners ...
  • Old26
    Old26 2 December 2015 10: 26
    13
    Quote: prabiz
    It is necessary to place several Bastion complexes in Syria, so that the "partners" would not feel comfortable!

    Assad already has them there.

    Quote: Finches
    what's behind this rusty american trough

    Of course rusty. After all, it is American, which means a priori rusty. And do not care that is 14 years younger than "Moscow" ... laughing

    Quote: atk44849
    haha! and the switch of this destroyer is with us! EW systems!

    Wow!!!! Will the anti-ship missile turn off weakly? Damn, how something is immediately made out of a wunderwaffe’s weapon. And everyone is pulling into Syria. There is a super-duper EW - but others fly and bomb, despite claims that we have all of Syria covered with electronic warfare ... There is a super-duper coastal complex - Come on and him to Syria .... Anyway, he won’t do anything, because there is no reason for him to be there ...
    There is a super modern S-400 - however, they fly and bomb. And how many screams were: WE HIDED SKY SYRIA FROM MATTRESSES !!!!! Remind me where is the city of Aleppo ???

    But when will this hatred end ???? From time immemorial, from the moment our fleet went into the ocean, tracking has always been mutual, they are behind us, we are behind them ... No, now events of world significance are being made from this for us ... Well, let it follow. This is his job (like ours to follow him). Doesn’t take hostile actions ...
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 2 December 2015 10: 26
    0
    It is a completely normal situation and the destroyer in business and our relaxon is less.
  • atamankko
    atamankko 2 December 2015 10: 27
    -1
    And do not worry, let them watch and be afraid.
  • TeKuS
    TeKuS 2 December 2015 10: 27
    +2
    Serious trough
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 2 December 2015 10: 27
    13
    and the uryakaloks ran away with us! (in one fell swoop, with seven beats), but they themselves didn’t even swim in a rubber boat. The site began to resemble Petrosyania ...
    1. U-96
      U-96 2 December 2015 10: 38
      10
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      and then we won’t do it!

      Yurich, do not touch! This topic is a sandbox for diapers, experts on the US Navy, plus grip and other Khibin lovers. Let them frolic.
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 2 December 2015 11: 51
        +5
        and then we won’t do it
        -----------------------------------
        It’s disgusting to read, are there really so many inadequate people sitting here. "Moskva" is practically without cover. Well, he will answer, in which case, if he has time. Even in the most successful scenario, half of the ammunition will be consumed - one end and a natural-bloody batch with unpredictable consequences. deliberate attack on our ship, Russia reserves the right to use this and that, (turn on your imagination), on everything that moves, regardless of nationality and degree of involvement in the incident. In this case, the hot heads of the "partners" will cool down a little
  • Maks-80
    Maks-80 2 December 2015 10: 29
    -4
    It's time for Peter the Great to send to Syria.
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 2 December 2015 10: 48
      +4
      Please remind me the last time the Russian fleet defeated the fleet of some developed country. Or do you mean not a ship, but a monument, the work of the sculptor Tsereteli? In my opinion, we need to be careful with our fleet, it’s not so big and modern to throw it in the thick.
      1. Secta haki
        Secta haki 2 December 2015 16: 11
        +3
        Over the past 60 years, among the developed there was only one war at sea, and in it, if it was required, it defeated.
        1. U-96
          U-96 2 December 2015 18: 58
          0
          Quote: SectaHaki
          Over the past 60 years, among the developed there was only one war at sea, and in it, if it was required, it defeated.

          Really Falklands?
  • LPD17
    LPD17 2 December 2015 10: 31
    +7
    The bomber was not covered by relying on air defense and fighters, and was shot down.
    Broadcasting Company is covered by means of PLO and escort ships? And then the cruisers are not very thick in stock / on the go.
    Yes, and a suspiciously old (by US standards) destroyer, will it make a "accidental, in conditions of poor visibility" maneuver with a bow to the side at full speed ...
    1. amba balamut 77
      amba balamut 77 2 December 2015 10: 49
      +3
      Given MPPSS-72, this is unlikely. With a gross violation, you can catch a 130-ku in the navigation bridge, even before the ram.
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  • veksha50
    veksha50 2 December 2015 10: 33
    +8
    "The cruiser Moskva, located off the coast of Syria, is closely watched by an American destroyer" ...

    So what ??? Common naval practice ... What is the article article about ???
    1. Manul
      Manul 2 December 2015 12: 01
      +1
      Quote: veksha50
      So what ??? Common naval practice ... What is the article article about ???

      It used to be. And now people are afraid of serious provocations (the rocket itself started / the young sailor accidentally fired from the main caliber ..). Let's hope that is unreasonable.
  • Abbra
    Abbra 2 December 2015 10: 34
    +6
    Normal situation. This has been almost always the case. Everyone is watching each other. A good opportunity for the competent Moscow team to get all the useful information about the observers ...
    1. amba balamut 77
      amba balamut 77 2 December 2015 10: 45
      +2
      That's right, but the fact that the Turks reported about the boats suggests that our expedition discovered them. Otherwise, why surrender your own, when the main trump card submarine is stealth.
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    3. 0255
      0255 2 December 2015 10: 47
      +3
      Quote: Abbra
      Normal situation. This has been almost always the case. Everyone is watching each other. A good opportunity for the competent Moscow team to get all the useful information about the observers ...

      And NATO also has the opportunity to follow Moscow. Do not think that the United States is completely stupid and is not capable of anything stop
  • BOB044
    BOB044 2 December 2015 10: 35
    0
    I wish the Bastion illuminated the radars of the American destroyer Carney and Turkish submarines. It would be interesting to see from the reaction.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 December 2015 10: 35
    +1
    Quote: GSH-18
    Quote: Finches
    I really hope that our submarine is watching this rusty American trough ...!

    The main purpose of this old trough is a timely warning of a volley from "Moscow". So that the Turks had time to dump on their territory before the missiles catch them. In order to then accuse the Russian Federation of unlawful revenge and all deadly sins in one. request

    What will they have time to warn there? the flight time of the missiles of the complex is about 100 km / min! Only time to say goodbye, and then briefly.
  • PROXOR
    PROXOR 2 December 2015 10: 37
    +2
    It seems to me that it is necessary to strengthen the grouping of surface ships in the Mediterranean Sea. Peter the Great is needed. Well, a couple of BOD and Watchdogs. I know that the situation is difficult in other areas with surface boats. But in the Middle Earth, the situation is clearly already tense to the limit. Moscow will not last long in this battle. Kuzya, too, even with full air wing.
    1. U-96
      U-96 2 December 2015 10: 47
      +6
      Quote: PROXOR
      It seems to me that it is necessary to strengthen the grouping of surface ships in the Mediterranean Sea. Peter the Great is needed. Well, a couple of BOD and Watchdogs. I know that the situation is difficult in other areas with surface boats. But in the Middle Earth, the situation is clearly already tense to the limit. Moscow will not last long in this battle. Kuzya, too, even with full air wing.

      stop raving already. Some total cretinism - the whole arsenal - to Syria. Including railway troops.
      1. PROXOR
        PROXOR 2 December 2015 10: 53
        0
        Quote: U-96
        stop raving already. Some total cretinism - the whole arsenal - to Syria. Including railway troops.

        What a Cretanism !!!! Those. leave Moscow alone to be torn to pieces. In my opinion, it is easier to create a grouping of ships sufficient to cool hotheads.
        1. U-96
          U-96 2 December 2015 11: 12
          +2
          Quote: PROXOR
          enough to cool hot heads.

          what kind of heads? A voyager was assigned to the 1st rank ship. What's next? Now scrape the squadron through the fleets and send them to SM?
          Quote: PROXOR
          Peter the Great

          Quote: PROXOR
          Kuzma

          Quote: PROXOR
          in this fight will not last long.

          Do you play "sea battle"?
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 2 December 2015 11: 51
          +3
          Quote: PROXOR
          What a Cretanism !!!! Those. leave Moscow alone to be torn to pieces. In my opinion, it is easier to create a grouping of ships sufficient to cool hotheads.

          what You can drive our entire fleet there, only in any situation the Turkish and US Navy will be stronger, and taking into account the forces of the Air Force - NATO in Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel (it is still unknown who will fit in), coastal PCs of opponents and the Kyrgyz Republic - we will simply destroy the fleet.
          Here it is necessary to think, all the same Peter the Great was created not to cover other ships from the destroyers, but to fight against the AUGs.
      2. amba balamut 77
        amba balamut 77 2 December 2015 10: 58
        +2
        If you are talking about Peter, then you can agree with you. But Grigorovich would be very out of place, on the Syrian coast. Yes, and he has a BSF residence permit.
    2. kote119
      kote119 2 December 2015 10: 57
      +2
      Quote: PROXOR
      It seems to me that it is necessary to strengthen the grouping of surface ships in the Mediterranean Sea. Peter the Great is needed. Well, a couple of BOD and Watchdogs.

      but what will they do there?
      1. amba balamut 77
        amba balamut 77 2 December 2015 11: 00
        +6
        Cranes pushing around.
      2. U-96
        U-96 2 December 2015 11: 13
        +5
        Quote: kote119
        but what will they do there?

        wait for the approach of the main forces — the trawler fleet and the Russian national rowing team.
    3. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 2 December 2015 13: 26
      0
      PROXOR and where do you propose to take this reinforcement, only from the waters of Inkerman, maybe something else remains there? Or from other sedimentation tanks?
  • urik62
    urik62 2 December 2015 10: 37
    +5
    Quote: Baikonur
    The fish swims overboard the cruiser "Moscow"!
    Look, "fish"! We might want to go fishing!
    The Moskva cruiser will dream of the Moskva River. Russian nostalgia will torment. So that is all!
    Fishing rods are ready!
    laughing

    Then they will write the song: "What do you dream about Cruiser Moskva? At one o'clock when morning rises over Moscow!"
    _______. By analogy: "What do you dream about the Cruiser Aurora? At the hour when morning rises over the Neva!"

    What are we smoking?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 December 2015 10: 56
      +4
      Quote: urik62
      What are we smoking?

      Yes, he’s such a life ... do not pay attention ...
      1. U-96
        U-96 2 December 2015 11: 17
        +4
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Yes, he’s such a life ... do not pay attention ...

        but it’s impossible to come up with some kind of thread utility to change the rank of the naval in such a subject - Admiral of the Fleet?
  • 76SSSR
    76SSSR 2 December 2015 10: 37
    +3
    American women in Syria only remains - except to follow, but to spoil stealthily. Ugh, what a shitty people.
    1. 0255
      0255 2 December 2015 11: 00
      +6
      Quote: 76SSSR
      American women in Syria only remains - except to follow, but to spoil stealthily. Ugh, what a shitty people.

      The Americans directed the Turkish F-16 to the downed Su-24, continue to bomb Syria despite the presence of the Su-27/30 and S-300/400 there. Not weak they crap there, it seems that they are completely insolent and not very afraid.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 2 December 2015 10: 41
    +1
    Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
    C400 posted already, yesterday the Americans of Aleppo bombed.

    The S-400 is for aviation, while the Bastion is an anti-ship missile. so that these observers do not leave "dissatisfied".
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 2 December 2015 10: 44
    +3
    In addition, Turkish submarines established surveillance of the Moscow. “In particular, two submarines, the Dolun and Burakreis, are watching the ship,” the message reads.
    And of course we will in good faith, by GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD, we will expect from these piranhas a torpedo on board, the war is already declared by the Turks!
  • Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 2 December 2015 10: 45
    +3
    In addition to the heroic statements about diapers and great knowledge about the refusal of NATO members to fight with Russia, do not forget about the human factor ....
    They will not stand any aniki - a war of nerves or God forbid he sleeps a bit .... yes he will press the button ("Water without gas" or "With gas") .....

    Those who are currently serving there, not only Russians, but also the NATO Armed Forces, can only be respected for their restraint and composure! And God bless them to keep this hardness and endurance further.

    Otherwise kirdyk EVERYTHING!
  • Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 2 December 2015 10: 45
    +1
    We are now spooning the US military. Their orders for the supply of weapons are breaking records, they are being called in to protect the comrades. And our defense industry is not standing aside. And thanks to all this, the development of civilization continues despite any crisis.
  • MsRedMaster
    MsRedMaster 2 December 2015 10: 47
    +8
    All the crew of the cruiser "MOSCOW" success and prosperity.
    Guys like you are another reason proud of Russia!
    Well, I want to say one thing to all adversaries - we can’t be broken !!!
  • Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 2 December 2015 10: 47
    -2
    there somewhere a BOD "Admiral ---- some" hangs around - I do not remember .. for Turkish-German submarines (and they are far from "black holes") death when opening torpedo tubes .. yes BOD is slightly smaller than Moscow
  • Terrible_L.
    Terrible_L. 2 December 2015 10: 49
    +2
    Quote: Old26
    From time immemorial, from the moment our fleet went into the ocean, tracking has always been mutual, they are behind us, we are behind them ... No, now events of world significance are being made from this for us ... Well, let it follow. This is his job (like ours to follow him). Doesn’t take hostile actions ...

    let them watch, we don’t take money for viewing
  • v245721
    v245721 2 December 2015 10: 51
    -1
    "Moskva" is also under the cover of Russian diesel and not only diesel submarines. angry
  • Anton071
    Anton071 2 December 2015 10: 51
    +1
    If you place the DBK "Bastion".
    It is also worthwhile to cover the near borders ...
    Here is the best option "Shore" (Artillery complex)
    Having increased a large group of videoconferencing, it is obliged to increase the protection in the same proportions, and often two, three, or even four times.
  • Peterhof 73
    Peterhof 73 2 December 2015 10: 51
    +2
    For the cruiser "Moscow", located off the coast of Syria, is closely watching the American destroyer
    He wants to taste the "Basalt" anti-ship missile, probably life-giving.
  • provincial
    provincial 2 December 2015 10: 57
    0
    see scary times began to follow
  • Velizariy
    Velizariy 2 December 2015 11: 06
    +3
    Quote: Maks-80
    It's time for Peter the Great to send to Syria.

    Let his mortal bones lie on our land for 300 years, let them lie - do not interfere, why to Syria?)
  • sgr291158
    sgr291158 2 December 2015 11: 07
    +1
    Heartburn in Americans
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 2 December 2015 11: 10
    +1
    And how many submarines are following this company from two fry and 1 leaf?
  • sisa29
    sisa29 2 December 2015 11: 16
    +2
    Reading the comments you see that everyone believes that this is normal, do not worry, pay special attention. Only here everything is not normal, they gradually begin to crush us from the side of the sea, while, as it were, by the presence and building up of the fleet. What next? Another provocation of the Turks but from the sea, having cover from the kaolitsii? And what will we do? NOTHING. The downed plane showed that we are not ready to fight for an adult. So they will bite us.
    1. U-96
      U-96 2 December 2015 11: 22
      0
      Quote: sisa29
      So they will bite us.

      What do you suggest?
      1. sisa29
        sisa29 2 December 2015 12: 50
        0
        Honestly I do not know.
  • alex80
    alex80 2 December 2015 11: 22
    0
    Quote: Lord_Sita
    There somewhere around two of our SKR go. One could send there.

    It is not the old TFR that needs to be sent there, but the BOD to ensure effective PLO.
    Kulakov, for example, but at the same time he is showing the flag in Oman, we need it so badly now, this demonstration in Oman !? "BPK" Vice-Admiral Kulakov "entered the port of Oman." (30.11.15/XNUMX/XNUMX).
    Covering is necessary right now, and an effective cover, so, God forbid, it doesn’t work out, as with the Su-24. Pah-pah-pah ...
    If for surface and air targets the RK "Moscow" itself can work perfectly,
    then according to PLO, I think he needs to strengthen opportunities.
    1. U-96
      U-96 2 December 2015 11: 31
      -2
      Quote: alex80
      A cover is necessary right now, and an effective cover so that, God forbid, it doesn’t work out,
      as with the Su-24. Pah-pah-pah ...

      and how it can turn out with Moscow
      Quote: alex80
      as with the Su-24.

      ? 10 warnings and 17 seconds in the territorial waters of Turkey?
  • Taygerus
    Taygerus 2 December 2015 11: 23
    0
    Quote: GSH-18
    Quote: Finches
    I really hope that our submarine is watching this rusty American trough ...!

    The main purpose of this old trough is a timely warning of a volley from "Moscow". So that the Turks had time to dump on their territory before the missiles catch them. In order to then accuse the Russian Federation of unlawful revenge and all deadly sins in one. request


    But will they have time? I think not, but the bastions there will definitely not be superfluous
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 2 December 2015 16: 31
      0
      Quote: Taygerus
      Quote: GSH-18
      Quote: Finches
      I really hope that our submarine is watching this rusty American trough ...!

      The main purpose of this old trough is a timely warning of a volley from "Moscow". So that the Turks had time to dump on their territory before the missiles catch them. In order to then accuse the Russian Federation of unlawful revenge and all deadly sins in one. request


      But will they have time? I think not, but the bastions there will definitely not be superfluous

      It is very possible that the "Bastion" in Tartus will be the next surprise for the fighters of the anti-Russian coalition.
  • Diviz
    Diviz 2 December 2015 11: 24
    0
    We need battle lasers for protection.
  • Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 2 December 2015 11: 26
    0
    Surrounded by dog ​​girls ... I propose to deploy a complex of anti-ship missiles ,, Bastion ,, on the coast of Syria. Just in case.
  • Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 2 December 2015 11: 26
    +3
    sisa29
    ......So what is next? Another provocation of the Turks but from the sea, having cover from the kaolitsii? And what will we do? NOTHING.

    In vain you think so!
    The Turks will not be given permission to provoke at sea. Everyone understands what the filling can be both with us and with us. And they brought down the dryer, they knew that it was empty and without protection. After all, if the guys even saw the F-16, then they would hardly have been able to leave, because at that time they considered them to be allies, or so.
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 2 December 2015 12: 53
      0
      God grant that you were right. Only somehow it’s not calm at heart.
  • Wolka
    Wolka 2 December 2015 11: 28
    0
    soon, very soon our pairs of dolphins will arrive
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 2 December 2015 21: 35
      0
      Quote: Volka
      soon, very soon our pairs of dolphins will arrive

      Dolphins have nothing to do there.
      "Moscow" should be wary of NATO submarines, and from the surface, hardly anyone will climb under the "Volcanoes" in the Mediterranean Sea, the Turkish fleet near missiles will go at a speed of Mach 2, any Turkish frigate in chips, in their place I would not tempt the fate of the second time.
  • Lis_Domino
    Lis_Domino 2 December 2015 11: 34
    -2
    if the s-400 is flying on Turkish planes, then the submarines and the destroyer are flying on Moscow - this is 100%
    and the bastions are certainly needed - a reason - "for protection from the Ishilov boats"
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 2 December 2015 11: 37
    +4
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    after any other combat units of the Russian Navy, Russia, having suffered significant losses, will not use nuclear weapons since it will be frightened of the global nuclear war with NATO.


    this belief appeared after Turkey shot down a Russian plane with impunity and killed a pilot.
    Let's be realistic and say that the provocations continue until we respond or surrender to the grace of the United States.
    They inflict a military strike on the enemy and do not stop trading with him hoping that he will change his mind.
    Under the cover of the mantra "This is a NATO country, this is dangerous", you can surrender the whole of Russia. For example, the United States does not think that it is dangerous to shoot down Russian planes.
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  • skaramaks27
    skaramaks27 2 December 2015 11: 41
    +2
    In the morning news today, euronews reported Ashton Carter's speech at a congressional hearing. sounded like this ... "we are preparing to send a special unit to Syria, which will include more than 50 people. They will carry out the release of the hostages, the search and destruction of the leaders of the terrorists! I laughed for a long time and with pleasure. Cool MO USA on the ears. congress rode.
    IMHO: the special group will include Bruce Willis, Stalone, Chuck, (a man sits drinking thumps, yelling at his woman for nagging him, the doorbell rings. Man asking who? , I'll go out and all four ... I'll give it!) and so on. one word> HOLLYWOOD